Outfoxing a 1200-Rated Genius | Philidor, Bowdler Attack, Sicilian | GM Naroditsky's DYI Speedrun

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  • @edgeman1135
    @edgeman1135 4 місяці тому +387

    Danya finally plays the 1200s I seem to find everywhere

    • @susorzo4342
      @susorzo4342 4 місяці тому +18

      if you feel all 1200s are that strong you MAY be bad at chess.

    • @edgeman1135
      @edgeman1135 4 місяці тому +16

      @@susorzo4342 true!

    • @astrolillo
      @astrolillo 4 місяці тому +43

      @@susorzo4342 It is not about "feeling" , it is about they playing at +98% of precision with 10 seconds spent in the whole game

    • @impishlyit9780
      @impishlyit9780 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@astrolilloI think we'll remove the "may" just for you ;)

    • @user-ym7zz2ww3r
      @user-ym7zz2ww3r 4 місяці тому +12

      ​@susorzo4342 well that was unpleasant - why did you have to crap on someone?

  • @yungsclunch631
    @yungsclunch631 4 місяці тому +522

    It’s wild to me how articulate Danya is under all circumstances - gameplay, commentary, interviews. That Stanford history degree is definitely coming in clutch. He sets an amazing example for the chess community, young and old players alike.

    • @Erwt64
      @Erwt64 4 місяці тому +7

      I second and third that 👍

    • @againsthegrainx7556
      @againsthegrainx7556 4 місяці тому +8

      Does a history degree help one to become more articulate?

    • @joejoe-ds8xr
      @joejoe-ds8xr 4 місяці тому +12

      he keeps getting better at commentary, he doesn't do his goofy Gary imitations like he used to when he got uncomfortable or over his head..the Hans interview was true diplomacy..well done Danya

    • @yungsclunch631
      @yungsclunch631 4 місяці тому +1

      @@againsthegrainx7556I would argue yes, indirectly. At least when I studied it in university, we had regular weekly debates where we had to argue evidence-based topics articulately (and write about them in similar fashion). I became a much better public speaker only through those courses and through no others in my degree

    • @nokken__1031
      @nokken__1031 4 місяці тому +40

      @@againsthegrainx7556 probably the amount of writing and reading at a high level to attain the degree helps a lot with being as articulate as danya is

  • @zafhalasdfn3324
    @zafhalasdfn3324 4 місяці тому +245

    Great interview with Hans, I like when interviewers can be quiet and let the guest talk. Pretty rare nowadays.

  • @graf_paper
    @graf_paper 4 місяці тому +276

    DANYA must be the most beloved chess commentator in the world right now!

    • @Flightofphenomena
      @Flightofphenomena 4 місяці тому +5

      He’s really incredible. No nonsense, ease of candor, and makes chess seem easy lol.

    • @mathewsamuel1386
      @mathewsamuel1386 4 місяці тому +1

      Sure he is. Very humble gentleman. It's difficult not to like a man like Danya.

    • @Cumocumono
      @Cumocumono 4 місяці тому +5

      He was the best commentator. I always enjoyed danya's commentary. And if you pair his commentary with robert hess that's just heavenly

    • @masetade
      @masetade 4 місяці тому

      @@Cumocumono I was gonna say the same thing. My favorite duo. Tactics has no where to hide if the two are commenting.

    • @CQB-dinggo
      @CQB-dinggo 3 місяці тому

      Yeah he is but sometimes he explains things too simply for the elo. It's as if he thinks they are worse than they are, when really the average for finding better moves at a lower elo has gone up over the past 4 years because of all the content available to watch and study. Other than that slight hinderence, he is absolutely amazing!

  • @toddhills3706
    @toddhills3706 4 місяці тому +180

    Only Danya has the verbal sophistication to turn "sorry guys, I got cocky" to "I took some liberties because I wasn't expecting this level of resistance." 😂 Don't worry, I'd be cocky if I were at good as you too.

    • @macdonaldnnadi
      @macdonaldnnadi 4 місяці тому +1

      Hahah so true 😂

    • @stephenl7048
      @stephenl7048 4 місяці тому +6

      His verbal ability is a consequence of his innate intelligence, as is his foundational skill at chess, albeit this has been enhanced by study and practice. He has won a top prize in the genetic lottery for a superb brain, and would doubtless excel in many other fields.
      I have interacted with many gifted (and so called gifted) individuals, and would guess his IQ at not less than 150. More important, by another metric, is that he is such a nice person.

    • @yannilibbes8219
      @yannilibbes8219 4 місяці тому +21

      @@stephenl7048 you have a super human ability to make people cringe, you should be proud of that

    • @boaz7028
      @boaz7028 2 місяці тому

      ​@@stephenl7048you try too hard

  • @liljackypaper
    @liljackypaper 4 місяці тому +283

    Updated vocabulary list I have learned from watching these videos:
    Portend
    Prosaic
    Unfurl
    Diatribe
    Frenetically
    Audaciously
    Respite
    Apriori
    Assiduous
    Ensconce
    Convoluted
    Endemic
    Revulsion
    Enthralled
    Gradation
    Phalanx
    Conflating
    Scant
    Crux
    Excoriate
    Peeve
    Foible
    Predilection
    Drab
    Compendium
    Vacillation
    Undergird
    Illusory
    Voracious
    Vocab ELO: 3400!

    • @kutmulc
      @kutmulc 4 місяці тому +1

      oh come on, half of those are pretty basic words

    • @MeritedMasterOfTheUSSR
      @MeritedMasterOfTheUSSR 4 місяці тому +4

      lol thank u danya

    • @quintenfranks8024
      @quintenfranks8024 4 місяці тому +11

      Mf you learned unfurl from Danya?

    • @matteopriotto5131
      @matteopriotto5131 4 місяці тому +59

      ​@@quintenfranks8024 not everyone is a native English speaker, y'know

    • @musical_lolu4811
      @musical_lolu4811 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@matteopriotto5131 yeah, 'liljackypaper' is definitely not a native speaker. Right?

  • @ezzrgirnrioplw2460
    @ezzrgirnrioplw2460 4 місяці тому +53

    Thanks! Brilliant.

  • @andrewrandall2566
    @andrewrandall2566 4 місяці тому +91

    I really enjoyed the long recap. It was a rare window into the mind of a GM. We live in an amazing time where someone like Danya shares that. Thank you sir I tip my hat to your dedication and generosity of spirit.

  • @amineshili7214
    @amineshili7214 4 місяці тому +76

    Danya you are the best chess online teacher ever ❤ i hope u continue making this instructive content❤❤

    • @christopherdrew6997
      @christopherdrew6997 4 місяці тому

      @@amineshili7214 if hans doesn’t get him locked down/fired again 😔

  • @Achilles513
    @Achilles513 4 місяці тому +13

    Hands down Danya is absolutely the #1 best chess commentator and educator in the world. Top elite notch.

  • @christor2907
    @christor2907 4 місяці тому +74

    Don't you love games like game2 where a guy starting out playing for scholars mate then turns into super GM accuracy.

    • @jamaldirie653
      @jamaldirie653 4 місяці тому +3

      Quite obvious cheater😂 i’m 1300 and like 80% of my games are still decided by 1 move blunders

    • @Peter-w4s1e
      @Peter-w4s1e 4 місяці тому

      Yeah that tactic would never be seen vs high level players

    • @thuroria7631
      @thuroria7631 2 місяці тому +4

      @@jamaldirie653
      He had 80% accuracy that game and if you go through it with the engine white made tons of non-best moves... Sure, made some best moves but those were all pretty natural, and actually even when there were obvious best moves white played weaker ones. And I mean, he even lost the game.

  • @mitchsmix269
    @mitchsmix269 4 місяці тому +2

    Im really glad I stuck this one out and watched through the whole thing. A lot of times Ill just watch the games and some analysis until it gets too dense but the instructional value of these videos is incredible. Thank you sensei danya for putting out all this great content for free

  • @Dotrund
    @Dotrund 4 місяці тому +2

    The pace and clarity of the delivery of these videos is always stunning. Truly one of the best chess communicators to bless us with free content.

  • @jonnozomboid2649
    @jonnozomboid2649 4 місяці тому +2

    Very instructional and helpful. And very decently conveyed. Highest admiration from the UK. Keep being a gentleman and genius!

  • @howlingwolf317
    @howlingwolf317 4 місяці тому +22

    The computer line at the end is wild, and is worthy of saving to take a look at later on.

  • @I.C.Robledo
    @I.C.Robledo 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Danya - wild 2nd game, jeez. That 1200s player is going places! I appreciate how you break it down and all the instructive value here.

  • @personofearth1541
    @personofearth1541 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks

  • @davidschneide5422
    @davidschneide5422 4 місяці тому +72

    If Danya got 1m views per video, chess would be harder for everyone.

    • @Flightofphenomena
      @Flightofphenomena 4 місяці тому +4

      You’re so right lol

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 4 місяці тому

      mostly a bit more fair. using all this knowledge lets you play chess in baby mode while the opponent is cooking. it's really lame when you think about it but once both sides have deeper understanding of a position it becomes more challenging. if you don't like the challenge and just want to see where your knowledge gets you....fine I guess.

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 4 місяці тому

      mostly a bit more fair. using all this knowledge lets you play chess in baby mode while the opponent is cooking. it's really lame when you think about it but once both sides have deeper understanding of a position it becomes more challenging. if you don't like the challenge and just want to see where your knowledge gets you....fine I guess.

    • @Tikorous
      @Tikorous 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@paulgoogol2652it's a ranked game you'll play people at your skill level. If you learn and get better you'll play people who are themselves better.
      Wtf is your point?

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 4 місяці тому

      @@Tikorous at least I have a point which you don't get. using solid prep will give a much easier time climbing say from 2000 to 2500. the rating will make you face opponents also well prepared or just more talented than yourself. so if the whole point of your existance is climbing in ranks you can say prep makes it much easier.

  • @Shankapxtomus
    @Shankapxtomus 4 місяці тому +2

    Danya video = one of the best parts of the week

  • @peterharband326
    @peterharband326 4 місяці тому +2

    The best chess teacher on the tube. Thanks again Danya.

  • @SubdueOG
    @SubdueOG 4 місяці тому +2

    Absolutely loved all the complications and explanations from that 2nd game.

  • @garliclasagna
    @garliclasagna 4 місяці тому +1

    Danya we love you and your interview will go down in history. beautiful work my friend

  • @toby6225
    @toby6225 4 місяці тому +7

    These videos always show up at the perfect time

  • @wreckystudio8891
    @wreckystudio8891 4 місяці тому +14

    At 2:46, As a 1600 rated player, I have never seen this trap. Requesting Danya to make a traps video in his speedrun repertoire openings' position

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 4 місяці тому +48

    "Remember out blitz rating is higher so we ll get a stronger opponent"
    That 1200 guy be like: Excuse me sir i can lesson this 1800 guy

  • @pranavnatu618
    @pranavnatu618 4 місяці тому

    Thanks Senpai🙏!

  • @JOHNTUCHESS
    @JOHNTUCHESS 4 місяці тому +2

    This video is helpful .thank you Daniel !❤

  • @Crunchy-h6r
    @Crunchy-h6r 4 місяці тому

    I really love the interview with Hans. I have been following you for years, I love your content, I love you man, keep it up 🙌

  • @ryanboyd4770
    @ryanboyd4770 4 місяці тому +2

    Hi Danya. Cheers for the content. I really enjoyed your interview with Hans. You let him talk and asked some great questions.

  • @majesticwizardcat
    @majesticwizardcat 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for the lesson Danya! Your efforts are very much appreciated!

  • @Chess_Improvement
    @Chess_Improvement 4 місяці тому +2

    thank you , as always great stuff, great presentation, great GM Naroditsky!!, all the best

  • @skurrskurr2032
    @skurrskurr2032 4 місяці тому

    We can be grateful for videos like this

  • @rdawgo14
    @rdawgo14 4 місяці тому +12

    That analysis of the second game in particular was fascinating. So many complexities! Maybe you could use some of those positions as puzzles for your students.

  • @andrewlijoi
    @andrewlijoi 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for all new new videos Danya, we all missed you for those weeks you took of for a break!

  • @tommeyer3871
    @tommeyer3871 4 місяці тому +4

    Didn't find the Alapin chessable course in the descriptio. For anyone interested: "Tame the Sicilian: The Alapin Variation" Opening course by GM Rustam Kasimdzhanov & by GM Surya Shekhar Ganguly

  • @thomasdequincey5811
    @thomasdequincey5811 4 місяці тому +1

    Loved the analysis from the 2nd game. Crazy lines, but really instructive.

  • @CR-by4nk
    @CR-by4nk 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m sick home, so thank you for entertaining me 🥰

  • @PatrickCWalters
    @PatrickCWalters 4 місяці тому

    Haha im proud of finding Knight G5 to finish off that game you showed us that you played a while back. Great video Danya

  • @kadelchess42
    @kadelchess42 4 місяці тому

    Great video! The speedrun videos are such a bliss. I am missing the times when you were posting every other day.

  • @Rossmonroe_
    @Rossmonroe_ 4 місяці тому +2

    Happy day, new Naroditsky Speedrun🎉🎉🎉

  • @diti1367
    @diti1367 4 місяці тому

    This guy is a gold mine to the chess community, god bless you!!!!

  • @lazyshooter23
    @lazyshooter23 4 місяці тому +1

    This deserves the "Babe, a new Danya speedrun vs cheater video just dropped" comment. I know we're giving benefit of the doubt, but this session still had that same energy and level of intrigue. Either an engine or a strong player took over in the middle game. Credit to the player if it was all natural.

  • @dhyeymavaniarts5460
    @dhyeymavaniarts5460 4 місяці тому

    Hey Danya! Thank you so much for this incredible video! Your deep dive into chess methodology has been both enlightening and inspiring. I truly appreciate the clarity with which you explained these complex concepts and the passion you bring to the game. Your insights have given me a new perspective on chess strategy and will undoubtedly help me improve my own play. Thanks again for sharing your expertise!

  • @alexwiththeglasses
    @alexwiththeglasses 4 місяці тому

    This one was even more rewarding than usual!🙏

  • @jordanmcmorris5248
    @jordanmcmorris5248 4 місяці тому +1

    These hour long episodes are really awesome

  • @ranaarjun10
    @ranaarjun10 4 місяці тому

    Thank you very much going into nuances in endgame this makes this video above 2000 level ......

  • @scirocoster
    @scirocoster 4 місяці тому +1

    When he described that blunder mate sequence. Really reveals how fast he's reading the board.

  • @HafusAndLegacy
    @HafusAndLegacy 4 місяці тому +1

    I like that you say these types of positions instead of in such positions

  • @semicolin8354
    @semicolin8354 4 місяці тому +12

    I can’t believe no one is talking about 1:18:05

    • @bryanp5843
      @bryanp5843 3 місяці тому +2

      See you guys later, bye. See you guys later, bye. See you guys later, bye. See you guys later, bye. See you guys later, bye. See you guys later, bye.

  • @oulfa4219
    @oulfa4219 4 місяці тому

    Thank you so much today as well ☺

  • @Kaybee3104
    @Kaybee3104 4 місяці тому

    That third game was stunning. Incredible theory.

  • @Hotzendoodel
    @Hotzendoodel 4 місяці тому +2

    Balsam für die Seele

  • @brian-oi6fn
    @brian-oi6fn 4 місяці тому +1

    35:05 danya’s prophet instincts kicking in, absolutely insane calculation speed

  • @Flightofphenomena
    @Flightofphenomena 4 місяці тому

    Dan, you are the best chess teacher on the planet. It’s such a marvel that you do this content. I’m just an old guy who loves chess but wanted to shout you out… keep up the good work!

  • @arie7032
    @arie7032 4 місяці тому +3

    I'm unironically savimg this 2nd game and look at it again when I am 2200. Insane

  • @Hellmuth4
    @Hellmuth4 4 місяці тому +1

    great outro

  • @knuthansen8524
    @knuthansen8524 4 місяці тому

    I love your videos an managed to climb to almost 900 elo! Thanks a lot sir!

  • @thenewstyle8704
    @thenewstyle8704 4 місяці тому

    Glad to see that Alapin trap return!

  • @oluwatosinoseni7839
    @oluwatosinoseni7839 4 місяці тому +1

    Ahh, the gift that keeps giving

  • @billythekid-bestservant1
    @billythekid-bestservant1 4 місяці тому

    Love the dyi series ngl

  • @ralfgrenzer2462
    @ralfgrenzer2462 4 місяці тому

    vs a 1200 Genius! You are a true master

  • @MoxieLatios
    @MoxieLatios 4 місяці тому +4

    Hey Danya you never actually linked the Chessable course in the description and I'm interested in seeing what it has to offer! (Also I don't believe I heard you mention the author's name so I can't search for the specific alapin course since there are multiple of them)
    Much appreciated if you could either update the description or reply!

  • @Delaxin
    @Delaxin 4 місяці тому

    awesome game, great video, thank you

  • @tommytuna5618
    @tommytuna5618 4 місяці тому

    thanks... love the video

  • @SkeeverKid
    @SkeeverKid 4 місяці тому +1

    Danya looking icy AF in that thumbnail 🥶🥶

  • @yautt
    @yautt 4 місяці тому

    Amazing video and instructional content. 2nd game was super deep, and I gotta stop cashing in my winning lottery tickets for McChicken sandwiches!

  • @ItzCiccio45
    @ItzCiccio45 4 місяці тому

    NASTY lines in the second game 💥

  • @jamesduggan7200
    @jamesduggan7200 4 місяці тому +1

    The second game's opening reminded me a little bit of what we used to call the Nimzovitch-Rossolimo Attack, but I believe it no longer goes by that name. Thanks, enjoyed.

    • @jacobwilbers9852
      @jacobwilbers9852 3 місяці тому

      It's called the bowdler attack named after a guy from the 1800s that was not very good just like his opening.

    • @dzordzszs
      @dzordzszs 2 місяці тому

      Isn't it Nezhmetdinov-Rossolimo?

    • @jamesduggan7200
      @jamesduggan7200 2 місяці тому

      @@dzordzszs possibly, tho tbh when I grew up few Americans had heard of Nezhmetdinov. Russian games were kind of rare, unless they were played against Americans.

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 4 місяці тому +2

    Danya, did you ever or would you be interested in recapping your titled tuesday draw against Levy? I'd love your perspective on it after seeing his recap and hikaru's.

  • @toddlockwood4011
    @toddlockwood4011 4 місяці тому +2

    Audio is peaking/robotic several times this video, not unlistenable just wanted to make sure you knew

    • @sachavucinec1832
      @sachavucinec1832 4 місяці тому

      I noticed it too, I just bought new headphones and I thought they were broken lol

  • @DarkShaman667
    @DarkShaman667 4 місяці тому

    Word! Epic!

  • @personofearth1541
    @personofearth1541 4 місяці тому

    These lessons blast everything else out of the water, for me they are better than 121 lessons.

  • @vixr9557
    @vixr9557 2 місяці тому

    hi Danya. Where can I find replay of your stream on twitch yesterday?

  • @timhanrahan1503
    @timhanrahan1503 4 місяці тому +5

    I kinda miss the days of variable openings, could be nice at lower levels to show us how to approach the alekhine / different sicilians etc

  • @afshinabdollahi7463
    @afshinabdollahi7463 4 місяці тому

    Your imitations are great. (Kasparov, Russian, your mentor).

  • @blueduck940
    @blueduck940 4 місяці тому +1

    what''s the chessable course he mentioned at the end of the video?

  • @DanielWillen
    @DanielWillen 4 місяці тому

    1:03:31 - That's such a prophet thing to say

  • @stevenanderson9881
    @stevenanderson9881 4 місяці тому

    18:20 Is 6.Nf7 The Fried Liver Attack ( Fegatello Attack Polerio) of the The Fried Liver Attack? 6.d4 Lolli
    Sorry pet peeve. As always high quality video.

  • @Procyon2020
    @Procyon2020 4 місяці тому

    35:15 I would have totally taken the Knight with check and then (probably) played exd5 and walked into the mate in 3. I had to watch it a few times to see what Danya saw so quickly.

  • @ID123Test
    @ID123Test 4 місяці тому +1

    @41:50 What is the Geneva context?

    • @Nico-xc3rg
      @Nico-xc3rg 4 місяці тому +4

      kramnik lives in geneva

    • @Ace-o3w
      @Ace-o3w 4 місяці тому +1

      😂​@@Nico-xc3rg

  • @andrececire7201
    @andrececire7201 4 місяці тому

    I had a chance to play this alapin a while back after Danny's last time of this example...but messed up the move orders later on...my old bad memory!

  • @MainUkraine
    @MainUkraine 4 місяці тому +1

    As a 1200 I was surprised Danya played G4, I was already thinking H4 was way better to keep the bishop out of the game.

  • @gregmiller350
    @gregmiller350 4 місяці тому

    Hi can anybody tell me where the intro music in his speed run videos comes from? Much appreciated!

  • @sportfactory3025
    @sportfactory3025 4 місяці тому

    Danya can u make an episode on visualization and ways to practice and how to build that picture in ur Head
    Thnx❤️

  • @jonnylinny5467
    @jonnylinny5467 4 місяці тому

    Are there any speedrun videos playing black facing the English opening? Thanks in advance

  • @danielholta5721
    @danielholta5721 4 місяці тому +3

    14:32 Nc3 going for the Legals mate!!

  • @kwisiao
    @kwisiao 4 місяці тому

    another day, another philidor

  • @matthewdrake9067
    @matthewdrake9067 4 місяці тому

    You're the man, Danya!

  • @Bruciussss
    @Bruciussss 3 місяці тому

    which alapin chessable course was he talking about?

  • @AkuDK606
    @AkuDK606 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Danya. My rating went from 2700 to 700 after watching your videos.

  • @fretmajik777
    @fretmajik777 4 місяці тому

    This probably won't matter because of different time controls but in a bullet tournament on lichess I was rated 1600 something and checkmated a 2170 rated players with king rook and pawn in the middle of the board. The absolute best game of my entire chess life. Bullet is different though, but I did get lucky.

  • @lewiswegner2339
    @lewiswegner2339 4 місяці тому +5

    Imagine being a random 1200 grinding and not knowing you made a top 5 bullet player fear for his LIFE

  • @SomeTheorist9090
    @SomeTheorist9090 4 місяці тому

    I can't believe people are literally poisoning people now in chess tournaments. I'm sure it's not a new thing--but a 1700 rated player thought they needed to poison someone.
    Thanks for your commentary on chess, even if you don't make a public comment on this situation.

    • @Peter-w4s1e
      @Peter-w4s1e 4 місяці тому

      I don't believe that is against the rules. If you can weaken your opponent, I don't see an issue. In football, teams send hookers to the players' rooms the night before a game

  • @Jake_chess
    @Jake_chess 4 місяці тому

    Two questions about your channel Mr. Naroditsky.
    Do you have any plan to continue the endgame instructional playlist? The comprehensive analysis was amazing, and a continuation into queen and rook endgames wiuld be fantastic.
    And I've also heard rumors of a KID course? Any details on this? Timeline, or price?
    Thanks for the great videos!

    • @Shokudan
      @Shokudan 4 місяці тому +1

      that endgame series is some of the best chess content on youtube. Yeah the speedrun videos are more instructive on the whole because there are so many of them. But the endgame videos have SO much value packed into them

  • @cosarara97
    @cosarara97 4 місяці тому

    Mr. editor, the youtube automatic closed captions turn Alapin into Elephant. I don't know if it's easy to fix or not, but I thought I'd point it out.

  • @aDushandrii
    @aDushandrii 4 місяці тому +1

    That h4 to weaken f2 in game 2 is crazy. Instaban if played, lol (could be actually played randomly, just dumb move "me attack bishop")

  • @H0lyFr0ggy
    @H0lyFr0ggy 4 місяці тому

    where can i find the course?

  • @cruzfarfan1284
    @cruzfarfan1284 4 місяці тому

    I wish there was a way to give "two thumbs up" to a video

  • @mikecantreed
    @mikecantreed 4 місяці тому

    I don’t understand how that 1200 played so well. I checked his profile and it seems legit. Danya made a lot of mistakes but he was ahead tactically in a few spots. Was that just total coincidence?
    Edit: That endgame analysis was like an alpha zero versus stockfish type game.

  • @ethan6882
    @ethan6882 4 місяці тому +5

    Why not play Nc3 instead of Nf3? It avoids the Philidor and the most common responses (Nf6 and Nc6) can transpose back into the Four Knights Glek

    • @mileshazzard7789
      @mileshazzard7789 4 місяці тому +1

      I love doing this, if they answer NF6 you can transpose into the Vienna gambit with f5

    • @ThatRaisinTho
      @ThatRaisinTho 4 місяці тому

      You can absolutely still play d6 against Nc3 and some do.

    • @ethan6882
      @ethan6882 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ThatRaisinTho Yes but it isn’t as common (at least in my experience) and that position isn’t the same as the Philidor