YOUR HAIR IS NOT 4C SIS...Let's Talk About It
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Today I will be addressing rather or not all black women have 4c hair?
Timestamps🤎:
0:00 Intro
1:52 Hair Chart
2:20 Andre Walker Controversy
Difference in Type 4 Hair
3:40 Type 4A
3:52 Type 4B
4:02 Type 4C
4:50 Wet Hair vs Dry Hair
5:36 Moisturized vs Unmoisturized hair
6:10 Multiple Hair Textures
6:42 Inspiring Quote
7:14 Natural Hair is a personalized experience
7:58 Benefits of Hairchart
8:42 Final Thoughts
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Girl this is the one. I cannot stand when I type in “4c or type 4” and I get a TON of other hair types to scroll through before I even get close to 4c.
Right smh 🤦🏾♀️ it’s so annoying!
BUT some type 4’s have naturally silky hair. That might make it not look 4c. For example, I’m a mixture of 4c, 4a, 3c, and a little bit of 3b. You can see my hair in the first few seconds of my video, “The Relationship Between Black Americans and Native Americans in Colonial Louisiana”. Would I be lying if I said that I had type 4 hair? You can clearly see my type 4 coils in the pic.
@@diginandpitchin that’s not what I’m talking about tho. I’m talking about people that do not have a single type 4 curl on their head. People which multiple textures are not the problem. Most black people have multiple textures and level of sheen/shine to their hair anyways.
@@BromeliadsssGotcha! Thanks for the clarification. 👍🏾
I knew his hair typing system was racist, but I had no idea Andre Walker actually said that about coily hair. Not surprising but this is so disgusting. His typing system should be burned with fire and banned forever.
Avoid it at all cost. Don't use the chart it is bogus. There are so many hair types that are not included on his hair chart.
@@mariepearl-harbour2335I agree. I call my hair coily. That’s my hair type. I’ve never heard someone say I have 1A hair, they just say straight hair.
Sava! Nice to see you around. I was thinking about your channel a while back 🙂
How do we know he's accurate? How did he come up with that rating? Society often follows people who have been proven wrong, years later. I wouldn't put too much faith in the rating of our hair. Instead, work with your hair and find what types of styles work for you.
@@1sava The Andre Walker Hair Chart is a Euro-centric Hierarchy Hair System. Very dangerous....
Continue to teach us about our beautiful hair types. It’s time for us to embrace our natural beauty 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@patriciataylor6935 Thanks for supporting 🤎🤎🤎
Idk, ppl wanting a 4d or 5a category rubs me the wrong way, because they be having 4c hair, but they're trying to say it's so difficult that it "has to be" another category, when in reality, they have issues with their hair (i.e. not good maintenance), their mindset towards their hair isn't the best, and/or the styling options they want to accomplish keeps failing. So, they blame their texture when they see another 4c girl who is thriving in their hair journey, and claim it's another "more difficult" texture.
I’ve seen 4d hair and they actually take care of their hair
@@jassiesworld Why do you call it 4d instead of 4c, though?
Consider the hair of the KhoiSan, though ...
@@Lashid4u I'm sorry, but that just looks like 4c hair that hasn't been tampered with. One could even say 4b, because of how coily it is
@@bre93284b is “kinky”, s-curl pattern. My hair is 4b and it doesn’t coil, it zig-zags. 4b is a tight wave while 4a is a tight curl aka “coily”. We have the blueprint patterns for the other hair types hence why Andre Walker only said there was only 4a/4b. 4C wasn’t included.
You are correct about the 4c click bait I'm from the southern part of Africa and whenever I click on a video that says it's 4c I later realize it's a click bait my UA-cam algorithm ended up being filled with 4a and 3 type hair....I then started using their hair routine which necessarily didn't cater to my hair type....I now only watch a few AA women whom I know have 4b or 4c hair and most of the West African women I follow have 4c hair it's only three women I follow from the Southern part of Africa that have 4c hair
Same; I'm also from southern Africa and over a decade ago I started trying to follow these hair influencers. I only realized from weird results that my 4C hair was never going to do what they could do with their hair. And that's okay. Now I follow a few as well and my hair is fine.
Something else that i’ve noticed. idk if im tripping or smth but i feel like if i search for hair care tips, sure i’ll get a lot of stuff relevant to what i’m looking for… but if i add ‘4c’, ‘type 4’, ‘afro’ or ‘natural’ to the search i get videos of tick removal and pimple popping and sh* along with it?? i feel like i get more ‘gross’ videos w shocking thumbnails whenever i search something related to 4c… i don’t watch videos like that so ik it’s not my algorithm…
does anybody else experience that???
Yes!! This happens to me too!!
This is also my experience!!
Oh my goodness!!! I thought it was just me! I’ve been hesitant with some searches and squint my eyes when scrolling down because I DO NOT want to see pimple popping.
The posters probably know it is a popular search term and use it to promote. Kind of like on twitter, some accounts will use hashtags that have nothing to do with their post just to get engagement.
OMG YES. I’m glad you said something so now I know it’s not just me. I hated that YT was suggesting such repulsive videos when looking for 4C hair content I deleted the app (I’m back on obviously 😅) but yes. I don’t know if these creators are tagging 4C hair or what kind of conspiracy is going on but I do know that bw have been under attack for centuries and this is just another form of others trying to sabotage any attempt made by us to love and take care of ourselves 😢. Not sure what, if anything, can be done about it.
@@itslatasha4726these people are evil. Why don’t they do that with other hair types? I’m so glad I’m childfree. This world is clearly not made for my kind 😢.
I think it is because 4c content, unlike people like to claim is very watch. It is the star of type 4 hair🎉. By being portrayed as the « least attractive 🙄 » by black women. Bad publicity is still publicity.
Now, more BW are enjoying and uplifting their 4c hair. So more people want to relate since it is positive.
We don’t really talk about 4a unless it is to compare it to 4c. Also, 4a is treated like lightskin black women 🤭.
4b is rarely talk about, lol😂. It is like the 3rd wheel, ❤. It is treated like brown skin black people..aka who cares.
That is my two cents, hope you think about it ❤.
There was a time when no one wanted to be 4C. They ran from it. 😂 Now that 4C hair is starting to become more popular and loved everyone wants to claim it.
@@twcrazy
I think it is cool…people want to be us. It’s is flattering 🤭
😅
@@diginandpitchin
What ?
@@NanaSaga I like your comment. Be blessed. 😇
I hate when people with 4a hair say they have 4c. It's like delusion. I really think people do this for views.
I agree 🤎
My daughter has 3 types. Her nape is loose 3C then center is 4A 4B front edges 4B/4c
The Lois Hair System seems a bit better to use not a hierarchy system. I would advise to come away from the Andre Walker chart, it has so much flaws. Hair shrinkage does not make your hair 4c. This is a misconception.
Very informative video. Tfs.
Your vids are SO informative! Yeah, I believe that my hair is a combination - Mostly 4B, but perhaps, more 4C in the kitchen ..lol ...but I think that a lot more Black Americans are 4B, although they may categorize their hair as 4C, automatically ...but yeah, I DO think that there should be 4D added, because when I think of the KhoiSan people of Southern Africa (Namibia) ..They have what has been referred to as "peppercorn" hair, which appear to be EVEN MORE tightly coiled than 4C hair. GREAT video!
Thank you and thanks for the information about Khoisan people as well. I plan to do a video about Type 4D so I will definitely be researching this to add to the video🤎
Tbh the letters don't matter. Only the number, porosity and density.
Thanks for commenting 🤎do you feel there needs to be any changes made to the current porosity and density test or are you satisfied with the current models?
My head is a mixture of 4c, 4a, 3c, and a little bit of 3b. I think that I can speak on all 4 because they all exist on my head. 😂
GREAT video, by the way! Great job with your explanations. 👍🏾
Oh wow 😮! That’s the first time I’m hearing someone with that many mixtures and thank you 🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 😂 It’s crazy. You’re welcome!
Very good video! I have looser curls at the nape of my neck for some reason. I also have teeny spirals at the roots of my hair. I think mine is mostly 4c but could be a mix with 4b. I love the idea of us using a new chart
What would you like to see on the chart? I.e hair type only or in addition to density, texture,porosity etc.🤎
I've only relaxed my hair twice in my life because most places refused to work with my hair. I have multiple textures and a lot of hair. I wish the catagories were more inclusive, acknowledging mixed textures with type 4 hair but also how hair changes with the ebbs and flows of life.
I follow Brazilian hair content creators, and 1 thing I've noticed is that they rarely ever use 4c to describe their hair they just call the 4 type "crespo" (coily) which I think it makes more sense.
I think any time ppl see an Afro with no product ppl assume you are 4c. I have 4a some 3c hair but it still isn’t that defined when wet. I’m more frizz prone, but my sister who actually is 4c her hair is a little more defined with water. It is the smallest coils, it’s beautiful. So just because your hair doesn’t define as easy doesn’t automatically mean it’s 4c.
I ❤❤❤ ur content! Pls keep it up.
I feel like I have at least 3 diff hair textures in my head 😅
The front temples have a way looser curl pattern and feel compared to that of the front center...which is diff than the middles and back of my head. Altho it's looser in the front, its harder to retain length compared to the rest of my hair which is more stereotypically ”4c”.
Thank you and that’s so interesting I didn’t even think about how different textures affect length retention…I’ll have to look into this and do a video🤎
No one should have chronically dry hair. You might be surprised that you actually have a different type 4 hair if you can ever conquer dryness. In my youth and when I became natural, I had very dry hair that would be categorized as 4c. However, once I STOPPED USING commercial products, my. hair type CHANGED.
If you just think for a moment, a lot of the additives, preservatives and other chemicals in commercial products are there so that the product does not go bad on the shelf. It will last on the shelf for years. What has that go to do with you though? That's the concern of the company, making their products last on the shelves to maximize profit. That has ZERO to do with your hair, right? You don't need those additives, preservatives and synthetics in your hair.
Almost all of my hair products are completely natural. Most are kept in a container in the freezer and refrigerator so they won't go bad. I use African Black Soap diluted most times but I also use very mild all natural shampoos. I do a lot of DIY also. Rassoul clay is a wonderful cleanser that can be used a few times a year. Check out Etsy. Many of those vendors for natural hair products sell all or almost all natural products. READ LABELS! You should never buy a product without reading the ingredients. Once you clarify your hair and start using products without synthetic chemicals, you will see the difference. Also, not everyone can spritz their hair with water every night or every other night. I tried that after watching UA-cam and my hair was the driest it's ever been. Maybe some natural chemicals are not for you either. Glycerin, wax, alcohol, and aloe may not be your friend. Learn your hair thoroughly, do trial and error. But no one should have chronically dry hair.
Recently, my cousin told me that she thought I had 3C hair. I can't believe that. I think it might be 4A or B. We were comparing my hair to her daughter's hair. Her daughter has a lot of hair, which is full, rich looking and amazing. She said her daughter has 4C hair and that's why those big hairstyles, she wears last longer. At the end of the day, what matters is finding the type of styles that you wear well and that compliment you.
I agree 🤎
I have several curl patterns on my head. I really have no clue what my hair type is so I don’t bother with the hair-typing chart. 📊
Not to mention the texturist comments and point of view of its creator, Andre Walker. I don’t see the legitimacy of the chart or what real purpose it serves.
Thanks for commenting and I agree in regards to the andre charting system but I do feel that the charting system can be useful especially in the beginning stages for styling tips etc….thats why I plan to create my own hair charting system for type 4 hair🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777: Good idea. If there’s going to be a hair-typing or curl-pattern chart, it should start with the tightest of coils at A1 or 1A, not the other way around.
After all, who’s using the chart? People with Afro-textured hair. People with straight or wavy hair couldn’t care less about a chart because their hair is seen by society as the standard.
Why should Afro textured be last on a chart? Africans were the first Modern humans. We AND our hair came first. 🥰
It's funny cuz my hair is the same, and I speak Portuguese and follow Brazilian and Portuguese content creators, and they just call the 4 type hair coily ("crespo") even in their hair products. Type 2, 3 and 4 have their own name and they rarely use words like 4a b or c
@@hereforit2347 Yes I want the chart I create to start at 4a…what would you like to be included without the chart for example only hair typing or would you like to see density, porosity etc?
@@joanasilva7149 Oh wow I didn’t know that and a lot of us have a mixture and I plan to make that clear in the new hair chart I create🤎
Very informative - tbh *4c afro hair is the rarest hair type on the planet,* and being dark skinned with 4c hair makes you the rarest kind of human aesthetic on the planet. *Dark skin and afro hair only make-up somewhere around 15-19% of the WORLD POPULATION,* and that's including the entire continent of Africa. Since social media is so "main character" driven, I feel like a LOT of influencers especially, *just claim to have 4c hair when they don't for clout. On top of that, google searches and weave industry social engineer a woman with 4C hair* to think her afro hair is "wrong" in pushing that the 4C texture "should" look like not 4C / looser texture lol. Its insane how we went from 4C hair being dogged, to *it being weaponized as a propaganda* or clout tool to again try and manipulate black women into hyper-consumerism. *4C afros are obviously the Queen-Mother of all curly hair for a reason* because it gave life to all other curly hair textures. I am 43% European mixed, and I wouldn't have not a single curl if not for my mother's 4C hair. A lot of 4C and black women in general though, aren't used to how *our hair actually compliments our features* due to euro centrism. We internalize that it is "unkempt" when really it is not.
The world only favors straight hair because *it makes up most human heads on the planet, and is more lucrative due to quantity (not quality,)* than the more rare afro texture. Its not about us...its literally *about the money. That's why the weave industry is so predatory* in trying to make us conform to what is common.
Straight hair like afro hair has it's evolutionary reasons; *straight hair is better at handling more humid-hot climates, less sunny environments.* Their hair dissipates heat much more efficiently than ours, but does not protect from UV like ours does. *Most places in the world are not deserts / extreme heat like parts of Africa, so curly hair isn't as common as straight hair* because it wasn't apart of many cultural evolutionary chains - *not because something is "wrong" with it. What is "unkempt" to them, is totally normal for us.*
*Normalize the fluff.* Its 2024 and all this BS that lead to black women struggling with our hair *was all built off pure ignorance of science, geography and sociology, not fact.* Do not belittle yourself because *you are not common like some straight-haired woman.* Do not feel insecure because straight hair is *weaponized as a propaganda tool to spurn hyper-consumerism.* Our hair has already put us outside of a very predatory world of consumerism so we can be the voice of reason, seeing what's actually going on.
A blonde haired white girl is a marketing strategy, not an icon. A BBL weaved up black girl is a marketing strategy, not an icon.
*Are you a marketing strategy? Or are you a person?*
Amen to that
Human, matter of opinion, there's nothing human a having fur, brillo pad carpet on the head 🤮🦧🦍🐑🐩🍌
Shrinkage %
Most ppl claiming to have 4C hair have unmoisturized 4A/4B hair they haven't mastered. True 4C hair lives in the videos of women from Africa/UK. Andree Marie is a perfect example of someone with 4C hair and the mojority of her clintele have it as well.
Omg not tryna be rude but I used to follow this super fine chocolate girl and I forgot exactly what I said, but her followers like live vicariously through her because her hair is like thinner... And I forgot what I said but when her followers was like well I think it's just the difference between fine hair and coarse hair, but it was like shade to it.. like I got played for having the "nappy" hair of the situation. Like her hair is like a 3c 4a but like she pretends like she's foresee when it's convenient but her hair is like she gets all this praise because her hair is quote on quote good
I found out I have 4b hair after ACTUALLY doing research. Before that I thought I had 4c hair for the longest due to misinformation. Now I see sooooo much people with hair types that aren't even close to 4c, saying that they have it, knowing that they have 3b hair...😐
Thanks for commenting 🤎and it sounds like a lot of us have the same experience and you’re so right about the other hair types saying their hair is 4c when it’s clearly not🤎
The is silly when i was a child in the 80s and 90s there were no rating systems. How about we get rid of it entirely it just pit blacks against one another i do not follow black hair rating systems. Good hair is healthy hair to me
Thanks for your comment and I understand where you’re going from as far as the typing system possibly causing division however it has its purpose when it comes to educating women how to talk care of our Coily hair. 🤎
I definitely have 4D hair
Thanks for commenting 🤎what characteristics do you feel your hair has that sets it apart from 4c? I plan to do a video on 4d hair and would love to hear your experience. Please email me at coffeecuties777@gmail.com if you’re interested 🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 my hair is very hard, zigzag, and grows out locked like dreads.
The LOIS system
Thanks for commenting and I did a full video breakdown on the Lois hair charting system. Check it out and let me know what you think 🤎
THE NEW NATURAL HAIR CHART
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At this point, 4c is the *it girl* of the hair types 🤣
lol 😂 I agree🤎
@@yetundethesketcher542 I love this perspective. You make me want to embrace my 4C hair more.
@@ThePinkSwanCulture glad I did 😁
Very informative. However, “representate” is not a word in the English language.
Thank you and lol 😂 you’re right! It’s how we talk in the Midwest but I’ll be more mindful of saying represent in the future 🤎
Representated? Where are you finding these words? What's this need to add "tated" to every word? Isn't represented a word anymore?
lol 😂 you are the second person to point that out…it’s how we say it where I’m from lol but I’ll try to catch it in the future and say represented 🤎
It's not represented because it's not hair its fur or a brillo pad, electric shock just stuck on the head 😂
The trolls are coming in here I see lol 😂 if it’s so undesired why are you so invested in a video discussing it?
@@CoffeeCuties777 I watch because it astonishes me hearing the lies and denials actually trying to convince yourselves then go hide it with wigs weaves lace fronts extensions etc which looks ridiculous on a black because it's not in your DNA to have white or Asian hair texture
@@user-pr4dg4rf9e Oh so you’re a fan…got it🤎
@@CoffeeCuties777 Oh yeah find it hilarious and fascinating denying yous all self hate because everyone of them I see on a daily basis has like a birds nest on hiding the afro its side splitting so funny 😅🤣😂 then use the bs crap it's a protective style, protecting what ffs 🙄 the afro never sees the light of day 🤣
@@user-pr4dg4rf9ehow are you gonna make an ignorant comment about black people 's natural hair, and then turnaround and complain that we are wearing wigs and weaves. Uhhh why do you think so, because ignorant people like you are talking nonsense about how it looks naturally so if the world convinces you that something you naturally have is not beautiful enough then eventually you are going to try to alter it.
😂 I have Ethiopian hair🙂↔️ Just because I refuse to follow the masses❤
Thanks for commenting 🤎
You might find it irrelevant but it's ET-cetera, not Eck- cetera.