"who would want a saturn?" My first car was a '99 SL2. It burned an insane amount of oil and eventually I seized the engine and essentially totalled it. Still managed to sell it to a self proclaimed "saturn collector" for 700 dollars. They do exist.
If a Saturn quits leaking oil, it's out of oil. 😂 but other than that, I've had a few friends with saturns have really good overall luck with super low buck purchases. Ion (non redline) being one of them. Terrible cars, no doubt, in lots of cases. But some you just cant kill
I got a 10 year old standard transmission '95 SL1 with a bunch of miles. It made enough smoke I set off the fire alarm at my apartment, and made a smoky get away in a "music video" without a smoke machine (I should have taken better care of it, but it put up with me). With a gallon of oil and a quart of gas though I could go anywhere and have a blast doing it. I loved that car!! I'm so glad there was some standing up for Saturn owners in the video. It was still running fine when I sold it in '13 with well over 100,000 miles. The SL1 was beautiful simplicity (albeit oily simplicity) that made this 80's Jeep Cherokee driver feel like a low key race car driver. lol
I own a Redline making about 390hp at 340k miles and that things still pushing through, I mean the oil leak sucks but other then that those Saturn's will push through anything
My father worked for an OEM supplier most if his life (and his dad was a GM lifer) and the first new car he ever ordered was one of the very first SC2's. Still remember him placing calls to cancel options and when it arrived I fully expected it wouldn't have carpet. He died in 2020 and still owned it up to about 12 months earlier. Had about 65,000 miles, all dealer service records, no leaks, plastic was great since it spent little time in the sun. My idiot brother in law sold it for $900. Some Saturn freak would have paid far more.
I'm with you on this one I had an 04 Ion Lvl 3 it was supposed to be a fancier trim of the car but it still had pretty basic features and nothing ever broke on it because there was nothing to break. I sold it to someone for about 900 with 284,000 miles on it and it was still running strong.
Hyper inflation is coming. Just look at the US money supply graphs. They pumped so much funny money over the past 2 years for COVID that prices of everything are gonna go the moon and very very soon. I would not be surprised if within a couple years they will start talking about giving up on the dollar and working towards making a global currency.
@@mexicarspotter Hey man, don't diss it until you try it. I have a 2010 Kia Forte Koup and it is weird for sure, but it is also stupid fun. 5 speed manual, and variable valve timing, so when you stomp on it in fourth it just screams to 3500 RPM, you aren't going to win many races but you will get to your destination laughing. *Hahaha 2L 4 banger go weeeeeeeeeee*
@@theofficialsikris I second this. Don't sleep on Kia. Especially with what they're putting out now. I had a Rio 6MT and that little car was a blast, thanks to the light weight.
Bought an 88 last week with 87k for 1800 bucks. One owner been parked since 2017. Fresh gas fuel filter tune up and battery and she drives perfect. Rcsb stepside manual with a 350. Super rare I hear
Yeah I was thinking about buying a Z31 for like 2 years and now I’m completely fucked, they where less then 2k yesterday and now they are up to 5k and 4K now, holy shit man
James seems like the kind of guy that’s difficult to work with for the sole reason that you can’t stop laughing long enough to actually do any work. Literally one of the funniest people on the planet.
He was especially funny in this episode plus his chemistry with Jeremiah at this moment in time was at an all time high. Sad to see that chemistry decline recently and hope they laugh like this again
Those cars were typical mid 2000's gm crap, but those little ions like that one would rip for what they were. Only problem was, they literally rattled and tore themselves apart. Lol
Y’all have the best editing team on UA-cam. Every video I watch is always super engaging and there’s no awkward transitions. Strange observation probably but I think their effort deserves some recognition
My dad has been an antique dealer and has done estate clean outs and auctions for well over 60 years, and throughout my entire childhood from 2000 to 2018 I was blessed enough to see some of the craziest barn finds/ estate garage finds ever. Its mixed feelings of wishing i could have been old enough to buy all the awesome stuff I saw and drive them, and a contentness knowing all the historic preservation he has been able to accomplish over the decades, both in the automotive sector, as well as countless other items that would have forever been lost. Things that changed the world.
That feeling SUCKS. Knowing you let a good or even great thing slip through your fingers. Estate cleaning sounds like a dream job to a gear head. Hell, I probably moved quite a few houses worth of s*** going through people's barns and garages looking at vehicles for sale.
Mine died at 262,000. Would have kept going but the repairs weren't worth it. Bought it for $500 and did all the small repairs my self and learned a lot. Got like 20k miles out of it. Shit car but man it refused to die
Drove an SL2 for 12 years before the trans gave out. Bought it for $1000, put on 130k of 210k total miles and it never gave me any serious trouble. Loved that car.
Mine is still cranking at 250k. It's been great, except the water pump died, twice. Lol. Really tho, I love my Saturn, even though it's a piece of junk.
Mid 2000s saturn owners know saturn doesn't owe us sh!t. Tourist donkey huggers take pop shots at the most reliable and affordable american made car EVER. Did you know Saturn was the first all electric american car? Then GM took them all out to the desert and buried them because they were too reliable and had no maintenance to make money off of. Google "Who killed the electric car?"
Yeah. I both love and hate this as a Regal LS and GMT400 Suburban owner. I'm ok with the Suburban going up in value. With the Regal and W-body cars in general, I like that they are well kept secrets. Keeps them cheap and under the radar.
2:16 Dodge Caliber SRT-4 "To The Moon" 3:48 Isuzu Amigo "Promising" 5:30 Mercury Marauder "Too Late" 7:07 Ford Taurus Interceptor "Stays In Hell" 8:48 Buick Regal GS "To The Moon" 11:02 Chevrolet Suburban GMT 400 "To The Moon" 12:40 Saturn Ion Red Line "Stays In Hell" 15:16 Shelby CSX "To The Moon" 17:10 Nissan 300ZX (Z31) "To The Moon"
My wife had an ion3 she bought with 30k miles on it. Drove it for 12 years, put 140k miles on it. Two sets of tires, a million oil changes, a wheel hub, and a set of coils and plugs and the crazy thing is still running. Sold it a couple years ago to an old lady for $1000 and she still drives it!
James + Jeremiah = Possibly the funniest content on this whole damn tube! 😃 Absolutely no way anyone can have a bad day while listening to these guys 👍🏻👍🏻
The 300zx is the only one on this list worth buying as an investment. Maybe the marauder, but they're SO third-fiddle to the 9C1/impala it's not even comparable.
I actually had a Saturn redline for my first car an i put that thing through hell back and it kept chugging like a champ wasn’t as crappy of scar as everyone thought at least for a first car. I upgraded the supercharger to a better turbo exhaust was hard to find at the time but added better full exhaust kit an header an threw in a short shift kit. It was a fun little car
@@bigdaddyvince182 they were started by GM, I think you mean they had an era where they made their own cars, and an era where they only sold rebadged cars from other GM brands
@@thecianinator they actually used Honda engines (at least the V6’s early on) until some spat about GM wanting to use Dexos fluid and Honda not being down with that. So GM started using all their own engines and it went downhill from there
My mom had that Regal. I was Young when she shopped for it but I remember encouraging them to buy the Supercharged one. I haven't thought of that memory in awhile. You bringing it up came flooding back. Even then I had the heart of a Motor Head. I'm so proud of my younger self right now. I knew the right thing...even then. And yes! They had some SACK!
Any clean car from the 90s is going to go up in value. Millennials are nearing their highest yearly income years of their lifetime and everyone likes nostalgia.
@@jmgerraughty Unlikely that the Storm will go up in value. Possibly the GSI model but doubt it. Since the Storm is entirely a rebadged Isuzu product it's more likely thats its nearly identical twin, the Isuzu Impulse will go up since they are super rare compared to the Storm.
@@jakinoutcreekst fr this video is gonna make them go up in price they need to stay cheap I'm a saturn boy. Never had a redline but I've owned two S-Series cars and they are bulletproof
They forgot to mention the Saturn ION Redlines factory Recaro seats, 5 speed manual, and a 500whp stock bottom end capable engine, light plastic weight making a rocket. It's fine it makes it even more of a sleeper now for a seat at gapplebees.
Saturn IRL had factory upgrade support, too. GM Performance Parts stage 3 kit would get you up to 260hp and keep factory warranty. Aftermarket support is still strong in these through companies like ZZP. I daily drove one with 260hp stage 2 kit from ZZP for over 100k. It was super reliable and fun to drive. Throw summer tires on one and go surprise some people. BTW, plastic is lighter than sheet metal.
I miss mine so bad, had the best feeling clutch and transmission. Parked it cause it needed a new timing chain at 250,000 it never left me stranded once. I got a 2018 wrx and ended up letting it go and have regretted it everyday.
I loved my 1998 Isuzu Amigo 5spd manual 4x4. Especially in the summer @ the beach. And on the winter during heavy snow storms. It blazed through the snow!
Yep! Removed the supercharger and replaced it with a turbo and wow so much fun with 340 WHP and 270 Toque in a front wheel drive. I have a 2004 silver redline. I have also had an 05 cobalt SS and a 09 cobalt SS. The redline is my daily with almost 200,000 miles and no issues. My weekend car is 05 Mustang GT with lots of fun upgrades running on E85
Some Saturns had the ECU under the cup Holder, causing some of the weirdest intermittent electronic gremlins ever, when peoples cofee/soda would spill.
In the 06 Saturn Redline with "Competition package" I can say that you are definitely right. Directly under the cupholder was the ECU. I would have to say not really the best placement for the ECU. BUT IN SATURN'S DEFENSE...The cupholder an it's surrounding(the complete middle console) was one piece. Now they didn't have any holes to let in water but if somehow something did happen. It's going right on the ECU.
my buddy had a saturn ion in high school...dude drove that thing like he was in a demolition derby everyday, and it still made it....for a few years. i'd say they're very reliable cars in general.
The Z31 300ZX is so fucking beautiful! It has always been one of my favourite JDM designs. I don't understand why it hasn't got any real attention compared to the Z32.
Too bad people like to jack the prices up on even pretty beat up and/rusty ones nowadays when they're honestly still not worth that much. This is ruining the Z car enthusiast base. I got mine for $600 running and driving, though it is a little rough in the cosmetics department.
JDM is “Japanese Domestic Market”. The Z31 was available and mostly marketed for the North American market. I guess what I’m saying is that it wasn’t “JDM”.
@@carshius79 I know what JDM means. I didn't know it was mainly targeted at the American market though. It's still fucking beautiful, especially in comparison to the Z32
The ion Kinds hits me in the Nostalgia, about 2 years ago my cousin owned one of these, (the regular ion) it had about 165k miles, and we drove it from Las Vegas to Miami, at a constant speed of 90mph and it did just fine. So it hits me with the Nostalgia
The Ion Redline bit was pretty funny lol. But I’m not gonna lie, they’re pretty cool little cars. 300+whp on a maxed out M62/TVS build or go all out and bolt a turbo kit on. Oh btw did I mention that the stock bottom end will hold 500+whp with that turbo? Pretty cool imo.
I've owned both a Saturn Ion and a Dodge Caliber. I actually still have the Saturn. It's been, overall, really reliable. The Caliber, on the other hand... I had to replace the ball joints, tie rods, sway bar links, shocks, struts, and rear toe arms twice each in just four years. I had to replace the fuel pump and both front brake calipers. The forward frame rail rusted out, leaving the engine on the verge of falling out, though a factory recall on that part saved me from a $2000 repair. Finally, the fuse box under the hood started corroding, which apparently is a common issue. I got $400 for it when I traded it in, and the dealer literally had it scrapped because it would have needed almost another $5000 in repairs. The Caliber was easily the biggest piece of garbage Dodge ever put their badge on.
8:33. Yep. That’s why I bought one and bought SLP parts. Very wise. It attracts attention still. As long as it is clean and has ZERO RUST, and service records, it WILL be worth money! It’s pretty much a FWD, 4 Door Grand National! I follow what going to be collector cars since 1999 and hit EVERYONE on the nail. A SVT Focus will be another one that is going to skyrocket. I had a Suzuki Swift GTI for MANY YEARS and babied her. I sold her back in 2016 and regretted it. 100hp, 1800lbs. Alittle rocket that you can throw around corners and have tons of fun. Mine did a 14.9 1/4 mile with “choice” mods with no nitrous, boost, or major engine work at all. The Cobalt SS and the Saturn Redline will be worth it since it was a FACTORY Tuner car. Cars with Superchargers and Turbos or high revving from the factory will draw money in.
Yeah they’re clearly trolling. They hype up the cobalt which has the same exact engine except the later years when they put a turbo instead of a supercharger. Fun fact Saturn was the test run and Chevy liked it and decided to put it in the cobalt
My family owns 2 Saturns, one of them is almost at 300,000 miles. My mom bought it new in '99 and it still runs today. That's the car I learned to drive manual on. If you take care of it it'll last forever.
Nice to see the Redline getting some form of attention. They're actually pretty neat. GM used this car as a test platform for the famous Cobalt SS. They came with the 2.0l supercharged lsj motor, and some package options included Recaro seats and a LSD trans. They make just as much power as the s/c Cobalt, but are lighter, because plastic. They are by no means fast, but they're quite quick. I have an '04 Redline with the Recaro package and LSD. It may have 208,xxx miles, but sure as shit, it still pulls on my mk7 GTI. Not the prettiest cars, but they're really fun to drive and absolutely eat up winding roads.
I had a 07 Cobalt ss w/2.0 lsj but no lsd. I thought about connecting a WOT switch to the turn signal because if you floored it, it would pull you into another lane. Light cheap car! Fun as shit to drive! Stage 2 cost like 500$ and took maybe hour or two to install with normal tools most people have in their garage and a rented pulley puller. Man do I miss that little shitbox
What all came in the recaro package, and would you recomend it as a first car? I'm a jdm guy but all the enthusiast models are jacked up in price right now, and the saturn seems weird and extremely uncommon in the car community, which is good
Frosty as far as i know the recaro package was just the seats but most of them have the lsd because they were fully optioned out. And as far as a jdm car id stray away from anything that’s high miles because as a first car you don’t want to be working on it 24/7 and don’t have another car to rely on
Frosty, id maybe recommend the ls400 or the sc400. The 1uz is stupid reliable if you keep oil in it and off the rev limiter and its auto so don’t have to worry about learning stick and u got room for friends. And i would say miata but they are so expensive rn. I have a 03 nb and saved for a long time to get it so maybe stay away from anything on tik tok too
@@frosty8936 depends on what you want to accomplish with the Redline, is it a daily driver or a weekend warrior?. If you find a lower mileage one with little rust underneath, and depending on what has been done to it and how it was taken care of. If you are mechanically inclined and have the funds, they can be great cars. Biggest issue is finding parts since they are uncommon and older. I love mine but I also found an 04 with under 60k miles, and no rust underneath. They are pretty peppy stock, but a few upgrades, some cooling mods, and if you add E85 to the mix you can be at 280 hp!
@@yngfljm2277 he's full of shit, i hauled my csx off to the junkyard 2 weeks ago, got $220 for it, felt like i got the better end of the deal. these cars are rolling piles of shit. they were garbage when they were new and after 30 years they are far worse. do not waste your time with anything front wheel drive by chrysler before 1996.
My buddy owns an ion redline that he turbo swapped. The sucker moves for what it is. Light as hell and the stock block and trans can handle 500 wheel hp. And they’re 5k all day. These cars are definitely slept on.
2003 Acura CL type S. 6speed manual transmission, they only made 2800 of them, and 800 only with navigation. I found one for 2500. Definitely a sleeper.
After waiting 4 years one popped up with navigation in black but the seller called it a collector's car and jacked up the price a couple thousand dollars. So now I wait again.
@@josephivan5094 Only Saturn I had experience with that had no issues with was a SL1. That car only ever needed oil changes, brakes, and tires for 200,000 miles, burned a bit oil but that's it.
When I was in 7th grade my teacher Mrs. Carlson had a bright red 300ZX. A couple of us kids got to ride in it on the way to a class trip to a fish farm and we all memorized and repeatedly sang the lyrics to Billy Joel's "Goodnight Saigon" and made jokes about Vietnam flashbacks while pretending to blast the trout out of the water at that fish farm. It was dope.
As an owner of a 50th anniversary z31 I'm so happy they included it in this list. With a Turbocharged v6 that has been modified to put out 1000+ whp, these cars are awesome to play around with, parts are cheap since the engines were used in the Pathfinder until the late 90s. Grab one while you can!
If anything, I feel like the supercharged 3800s and the Saturn Ion Redline will be one of those “best kept secret” cars. Underappreciated, and ignored on the auction block, but they will have their fans and are not bad cars performance wise, for their era. I knew a guy with a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP who said it could do 0-60 in about 7 seconds. Not bad for an early-2000s sedan.
@@dylanbrown8246 I've only timed it once, and that was before the new header I installed recently. I'm sure it'll get much quicker when I install all of the stage 3 mods, already have half the stuff for it.
Jerry is always happy and smiley but this is the first time in a donut video I have seen him laugh from the bottom of his heart! Great stuff! Pumphrey slaying it!
Those regal GS were pretty dope, they actually have a decent suspension setup. My buddy had one back in the day, my Jetta GLI 2.0 16v was more nimble and had a much better steering feel. The GS still had the vague steering feel of a Buick. Also in " spirited " driving the brakes would smoke heavily as I remember.
Speaking of "to the moon," if you have a used pickup, now is the time to get rid of it. Lot of people getting more for them used, than they bought them for new.
So glad I purchased my Z31 when I did, definitely seeing them starting to go up in value. More people are doing rear subframe swaps, increasing boost and drifting them, not to mention motor swaps that are done. LS, RB (300zr) VG33et Great potential
When I purchased my Z32 a couple years ago Z31's were floating around for next to nothing but I was dead set on a Z32. Now that I am in love with Z cars especially the Z31 and Z32 I was like damn I could probably scoop a Z31 now, but was pretty astounded to find how much they had already started to come up. How has your Z31 been treating you?
There was a Z31 imported from Hawaii were I live. I'm glad I didn't buy it. I would of killed myself. I chosed a minivan instead with the same engine block. VG30(E)
@@theemasher777 when I got it I refreshed everything from poly bushings/ motor mounts/trans mount, powertrix coilovers, z32 front break upgrade, z32 brake master cylinder upgrade, and all the maintenance. She's been a great reliable car thus far that I can toss around in the canyons and enjoy the drive. Turns lots of heads and usually get stopped and hear stories from strangers about how they used to own one and rarely see them driving anymore
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Mo Sleep Babeh
I am also convinced that the Audi TT is going to be the next gen Miata
Infiniti q45
I legit woke up late for this and I thought (if only I woke up an hour earlier)
i wish i could be on donut media, but i dont live in california
I raced a Ferrari in one of those Saturn's once.... they weren't racing me but I sure raced the hell outta them I almost won
More than you can afford pal, Ferrari.
This comment is underrated lmao
😂😂😂
I can hear it now, the Saturn engine screaming as the Ferrari casually accelerates to 45.
@@zach6867 what are you even talking
I feel like James and Jerry had the most fun recording this episode
the best part of the vid was watching jeremiah trying to hold it together.
Yeahhh
Yeah these two dudes go together like thread inserts and aluminium blocks lol.
Performance was his business
Honestly this was the funniest vid ive had seen lately, great chemistry!
I need a video on Jeremiah's motorcycles
Totally agree
That's what I'm sayin', we need bike contents on Donut since we have Uncle Jerry
Seriously. There's no reason why Donut should stay silent on motorcycles. I want to LEARN.
Yes! Please!
and have the crew race them 😂
"who would want a saturn?"
My first car was a '99 SL2. It burned an insane amount of oil and eventually I seized the engine and essentially totalled it. Still managed to sell it to a self proclaimed "saturn collector" for 700 dollars.
They do exist.
Bro I think I bought your car
@@SauceyMan76 Atlanta area?
@@thoughtsonsugar oh nah Orlando FL
My second car was a Saturn SL2 that I abused to all to hell. Love those cars.
If a Saturn quits leaking oil, it's out of oil. 😂 but other than that, I've had a few friends with saturns have really good overall luck with super low buck purchases. Ion (non redline) being one of them. Terrible cars, no doubt, in lots of cases. But some you just cant kill
“Buy these before they blow up!”
Ford Pinto: “You’re a little too late, muchacho.”
lmao
Honestly thought that's what this whole vide was going to be about
The pinto no doubt will blow up...
There's a hero car version of the Wayne's World Pinto for sale in Lacey at a dealership, even has the licorice dispenser.
_me googling fiat cunto_
This episode:
Jerry - "This is a piece of shit."
James - "No it's good."
Jerry - "Yeah its the best."
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LOL
Good
This is pretty much every d list episode I’ve noticed!
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666th like... FUCK YES
Dude there’s some guy who has begged for an up to speed on James’ dad for 375 days, if you care about sleep so bad GIVE IT TO HIM SO HE CAN
I legit wake up at 2am for every episode 😩
@@PaganiGaming S U C H D E D I C A T I O N
@@PaganiGaming “a man of dedication, and sheer will”
@@PaganiGaming ask Nardwuar to interview James
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Saturn sl was one of my favorite cars I've ever owned. Its had zero features so nothing ever broke.
I got a 10 year old standard transmission '95 SL1 with a bunch of miles. It made enough smoke I set off the fire alarm at my apartment, and made a smoky get away in a "music video" without a smoke machine (I should have taken better care of it, but it put up with me). With a gallon of oil and a quart of gas though I could go anywhere and have a blast doing it. I loved that car!! I'm so glad there was some standing up for Saturn owners in the video. It was still running fine when I sold it in '13 with well over 100,000 miles. The SL1 was beautiful simplicity (albeit oily simplicity) that made this 80's Jeep Cherokee driver feel like a low key race car driver. lol
I own a Redline making about 390hp at 340k miles and that things still pushing through, I mean the oil leak sucks but other then that those Saturn's will push through anything
My father worked for an OEM supplier most if his life (and his dad was a GM lifer) and the first new car he ever ordered was one of the very first SC2's. Still remember him placing calls to cancel options and when it arrived I fully expected it wouldn't have carpet. He died in 2020 and still owned it up to about 12 months earlier. Had about 65,000 miles, all dealer service records, no leaks, plastic was great since it spent little time in the sun. My idiot brother in law sold it for $900. Some Saturn freak would have paid far more.
Man, I hate that that happened.
I'm with you on this one I had an 04 Ion Lvl 3 it was supposed to be a fancier trim of the car but it still had pretty basic features and nothing ever broke on it because there was nothing to break. I sold it to someone for about 900 with 284,000 miles on it and it was still running strong.
The used car market is a mess right now. Save your money and get something a year from now. Even miatas are up 75% of what they are really worth.
They will only go up
Hyper inflation is coming. Just look at the US money supply graphs. They pumped so much funny money over the past 2 years for COVID that prices of everything are gonna go the moon and very very soon. I would not be surprised if within a couple years they will start talking about giving up on the dollar and working towards making a global currency.
@@CordovaMage yay globalism. Nothing could go wrong with that...
I have a 2011 Honda Accord LX for $9k
@@trashbandit2449 It's not like the US dollar is already the defacto world currency in a lot of places anyway......
“Buick still makes cars and i didn’t realize they still make cars” hard to find truer words than these
Right now, Buick doesn't have any cars! Huge mistake on their part! We'll see if Buick gets any electric cars!
@@johnnymason2460 don’t they have that weird suv thing
@@thedriftingyogurt the rebadged chevy Trax? Yep. They have it.
@@cherrypepsi2815 basically the same thing as a Chevy Trax
@@thedriftingyogurt yep.
the whole advertising campaign for buick now is “thats not a buick” 😂.
lol right, the best way to sell a Buick is to pretend it’s not a Buick
@@Bootyspaghetti just like Hyundai or Kia XD
@@mexicarspotter Hey man, don't diss it until you try it. I have a 2010 Kia Forte Koup and it is weird for sure, but it is also stupid fun. 5 speed manual, and variable valve timing, so when you stomp on it in fourth it just screams to 3500 RPM, you aren't going to win many races but you will get to your destination laughing.
*Hahaha 2L 4 banger go weeeeeeeeeee*
@@theofficialsikris I second this. Don't sleep on Kia. Especially with what they're putting out now. I had a Rio 6MT and that little car was a blast, thanks to the light weight.
'don't sleep on a kia'
>guys who've never driven more than 300whp
I just bought a 94 silverado short bed with 30k original miles AND garage kept for 10k. 🤩 freaking LOVE this truck!
🎉congratulations that’s a great find 😮
Bought an 88 last week with 87k for 1800 bucks. One owner been parked since 2017. Fresh gas fuel filter tune up and battery and she drives perfect. Rcsb stepside manual with a 350. Super rare I hear
How the hell did you find that?? Nice
These “cars to buy lists” are going to make every used car unattainable for me by the time I could afford one at the current prices.
yep... i wish they would stop making these... thats why the miata is so much money now
Thats why i hate these videos man it sucks
Yeah man you are exactly right, I love donut most the time but these videos are 100% hurting enthusiasts
Yeah I was thinking about buying a Z31 for like 2 years and now I’m completely fucked, they where less then 2k yesterday and now they are up to 5k and 4K now, holy shit man
youtube has RUINED the miata.
Conspiracy theory: James already bought all these cars and he is making a video to raise the cost of them so HE CAN MAKE MONEH
You mean 'Mo Moneh Bebeh! '
this was exactly my thought on these videos
Pump and dump but with cars lmao😂
Works for elon
The pictures aren't even stock photos. James took the pictures himself
“Buy these before they blow up”
Sometimes literally...
"before these blow up"
"james, you guys are the ones blowing stuff up tho.."
"buy these, they're blowing up"
"Oh cool. An untouched '84 Fiero."
pontiac fiero
@@weegle. Only if it has the Iron Duke with the shallow oil pan.
James seems like the kind of guy that’s difficult to work with for the sole reason that you can’t stop laughing long enough to actually do any work. Literally one of the funniest people on the planet.
He was especially funny in this episode plus his chemistry with Jeremiah at this moment in time was at an all time high. Sad to see that chemistry decline recently and hope they laugh like this again
@@Officialmartymarswhat happened since then?
@@i504_Allah Jeremiah bought a Saturn.
“It’s wedge shaped like a lambo” 😂😂😂😂
That’s why potato wedges are my favorite potato. Because they are wedge shaped like a Lambo. Lol!
Those cars were typical mid 2000's gm crap, but those little ions like that one would rip for what they were. Only problem was, they literally rattled and tore themselves apart. Lol
Man, I love Jeremiah. He was a really good addition to the team.
Also, the magic words: 5:59
Y’all have the best editing team on UA-cam. Every video I watch is always super engaging and there’s no awkward transitions. Strange observation probably but I think their effort deserves some recognition
My dad has been an antique dealer and has done estate clean outs and auctions for well over 60 years, and throughout my entire childhood from 2000 to 2018 I was blessed enough to see some of the craziest barn finds/ estate garage finds ever. Its mixed feelings of wishing i could have been old enough to buy all the awesome stuff I saw and drive them, and a contentness knowing all the historic preservation he has been able to accomplish over the decades, both in the automotive sector, as well as countless other items that would have forever been lost. Things that changed the world.
That feeling SUCKS. Knowing you let a good or even great thing slip through your fingers. Estate cleaning sounds like a dream job to a gear head.
Hell, I probably moved quite a few houses worth of s*** going through people's barns and garages looking at vehicles for sale.
At least tell us some of the barn finds!!!
I drove my SL1 Saturn over 300k miles. That's literally past the moon. One of the most reliable cars I ever owned, Jerimiah.
Mine died at 262,000. Would have kept going but the repairs weren't worth it. Bought it for $500 and did all the small repairs my self and learned a lot. Got like 20k miles out of it. Shit car but man it refused to die
Drove an SL2 for 12 years before the trans gave out. Bought it for $1000, put on 130k of 210k total miles and it never gave me any serious trouble. Loved that car.
Mine is still cranking at 250k. It's been great, except the water pump died, twice. Lol. Really tho, I love my Saturn, even though it's a piece of junk.
@@jackdan91 My SC2 is manual, so it should last forever if I can get the rust in check.
Mid 2000s saturn owners know saturn doesn't owe us sh!t. Tourist donkey huggers take pop shots at the most reliable and affordable american made car EVER. Did you know Saturn was the first all electric american car? Then GM took them all out to the desert and buried them because they were too reliable and had no maintenance to make money off of. Google "Who killed the electric car?"
Jeremiah in James's show: ☺️
Jeremiah in his own show : 😎
James’
@@leavingthevalley5175 thanks
James's's' *
S'jeremiah
They have terrible chemistry.
dont sleep on the gts model of skylines. they’re still hella dope
I’d honestly take a gts over gtr
the gts series is better than the gtr if you are into drifting so
they’re much better imo rwd>>
I’d rather have the gts
@@Agent_Missouri agreed
Jeremiah seems the kind of guy that could hang out/get along with anyone. His laughter is contagious. James pushes it all along >_
Again, Donut is not exactly helping prices stay low by publishing this lol
They probably bought these particular cars.
Yeah. I both love and hate this as a Regal LS and GMT400 Suburban owner. I'm ok with the Suburban going up in value. With the Regal and W-body cars in general, I like that they are well kept secrets. Keeps them cheap and under the radar.
2:16 Dodge Caliber SRT-4 "To The Moon"
3:48 Isuzu Amigo "Promising"
5:30 Mercury Marauder "Too Late"
7:07 Ford Taurus Interceptor "Stays In Hell"
8:48 Buick Regal GS "To The Moon"
11:02 Chevrolet Suburban GMT 400 "To The Moon"
12:40 Saturn Ion Red Line "Stays In Hell"
15:16 Shelby CSX "To The Moon"
17:10 Nissan 300ZX (Z31) "To The Moon"
Surprised they didn't talk mazdaspeed
They mention the SRT-4, and I'm over here making sad PT Cruiser GT noises.
PT GT to the moon
@@Donut yes :)
can’t get past the ugly
@@Donut 🚀 PT Cruise GT is the next Doge.
@@Yes-qj4bi yes
My wife had an ion3 she bought with 30k miles on it. Drove it for 12 years, put 140k miles on it. Two sets of tires, a million oil changes, a wheel hub, and a set of coils and plugs and the crazy thing is still running. Sold it a couple years ago to an old lady for $1000 and she still drives it!
I can imagine James walking around a parking garage just pointing at shit and flipping out. Any parking garage.
I love how jeremiah says a car is crap and then James describes the car and boom to the moon
Value of these increased by 20% after this video
I assure you, a caliber SRT4 will not be helped from this video lol
James + Jeremiah = Possibly the funniest content on this whole damn tube! 😃 Absolutely no way anyone can have a bad day while listening to these guys 👍🏻👍🏻
💯💯💯💯
These 2 are my Absolute favs
Once donut says “buy before it’s late” it’s too late now BECAUSE they said it 😅😂
exactly.
Power of influence especially with the fact its sorted to one specific group of enthusiasts
Considering there's only one car in the list conceivably worth a damn to anyone with any taste and knowledge of cars... whatever.
The 300zx is the only one on this list worth buying as an investment. Maybe the marauder, but they're SO third-fiddle to the 9C1/impala it's not even comparable.
"See, that's the problem with Buick! Buick still makes cars...." Should have stopped there lmao.
They actually made a modern GNX... but it was only sold in China..... so lame.
Shouldve kept Pontiac
@@misterbuklau4053 true
@nismo510 No they werent hideous at all the cheap cars maybe but the good cars were all nice looking
@@BionicBurke the Avista?
So glad Zach and Jerry were added to the donut lineup. Love those guys
I actually had a Saturn redline for my first car an i put that thing through hell back and it kept chugging like a champ wasn’t as crappy of scar as everyone thought at least for a first car. I upgraded the supercharger to a better turbo exhaust was hard to find at the time but added better full exhaust kit an header an threw in a short shift kit. It was a fun little car
James: WAKE UP SHEEPLE
Also James: sleep is the most important meal of the day
@Green Mamba Games sleep is brain food
He’s trying to starve out the competition. Good strategy tbf.
I had an 06 ion redline competition package and it was just so odd and different. I’m glad James gets it
Srt caliber is a fun car. I really honestly though they will be worth something someday. You can tune then to make big power. It's a pretty cool car.
I love how many times James cracked Jeremiah up this episode, y'all have great chemistry and I'm absolutely here for way more of it to come
"Saturn had one era." Truer words have never been spoken.
They actually had two, pre gm era and gm garbage era
@@bigdaddyvince182 they were started by GM, I think you mean they had an era where they made their own cars, and an era where they only sold rebadged cars from other GM brands
@@thecianinator they actually used Honda engines (at least the V6’s early on) until some spat about GM wanting to use Dexos fluid and Honda not being down with that. So GM started using all their own engines and it went downhill from there
"Right"
"Mhm"
"Mmmhmmm"
"YEEAAHH!"
-James 2021
😂😂
My mom had that Regal. I was Young when she shopped for it but I remember encouraging them to buy the Supercharged one. I haven't thought of that memory in awhile. You bringing it up came flooding back. Even then I had the heart of a Motor Head. I'm so proud of my younger self right now. I knew the right thing...even then. And yes! They had some SACK!
I've been saving for a Z31 and now you've dropped this video and I'm never gonna be able to afford it lmaooooo
Don’t bring too much attention to these cars. After all, we wanna keep the prices low enough for us to afford. 👀
Don't worry, you'll be able to afford to buy the Saturn Ion Redline soon enough. 🤣
Any clean car from the 90s is going to go up in value. Millennials are nearing their highest yearly income years of their lifetime and everyone likes nostalgia.
@@angelgjr1999 **gently buffs Geo Storm**
@@jmgerraughty
Unlikely that the Storm will go up in value. Possibly the GSI model but doubt it. Since the Storm is entirely a rebadged Isuzu product it's more likely thats its nearly identical twin, the Isuzu Impulse will go up since they are super rare compared to the Storm.
Everyone gets surprised when they hear the supercharger on my redline and I fly by them.
Meeeeoooooooooow! That episode of Best Motoring where DK said the American superchargers sounded like a cat killed me!
Im hoping people still ignore their exsistance....coming from a fellow redline owner
@@jakinoutcreekst fr this video is gonna make them go up in price they need to stay cheap I'm a saturn boy. Never had a redline but I've owned two S-Series cars and they are bulletproof
I'm happy with the redline I copped not to long ago
They forgot to mention the Saturn ION Redlines factory Recaro seats, 5 speed manual, and a 500whp stock bottom end capable engine, light plastic weight making a rocket. It's fine it makes it even more of a sleeper now for a seat at gapplebees.
Jeremiah has the most contagious laughter
We need more Jer and James videos, I was laughing the whole time
19:00
“Zach leaves”
James:I like this guy he’s hired
Saturn IRL had factory upgrade support, too. GM Performance Parts stage 3 kit would get you up to 260hp and keep factory warranty. Aftermarket support is still strong in these through companies like ZZP. I daily drove one with 260hp stage 2 kit from ZZP for over 100k. It was super reliable and fun to drive. Throw summer tires on one and go surprise some people. BTW, plastic is lighter than sheet metal.
My daily driver is still an '04 Redline. :-)
I miss mine so bad, had the best feeling clutch and transmission. Parked it cause it needed a new timing chain at 250,000 it never left me stranded once. I got a 2018 wrx and ended up letting it go and have regretted it everyday.
@@jlucas9342 shifter was a little rubbery, but there were kits available to fix that. The clutch did engage exactly where I thought it should.
The plastic isn’t lighter then sheet metal.
I loved my 1998 Isuzu Amigo 5spd manual 4x4. Especially in the summer @ the beach. And on the winter during heavy snow storms. It blazed through the snow!
I had an '01 Regal GS. That thing was crazy fast and the headlights turned when you put on the blinker.
Did they turn, or did it illuminate a corner light?
The Saturn ion redline can make 500whp on stock internals. Great car
Yep! Removed the supercharger and replaced it with a turbo and wow so much fun with 340 WHP and 270 Toque in a front wheel drive. I have a 2004 silver redline. I have also had an 05 cobalt SS and a 09 cobalt SS. The redline is my daily with almost 200,000 miles and no issues. My weekend car is 05 Mustang GT with lots of fun upgrades running on E85
I timed it right to 758hp
Im looking at a zzp race block and efr8374... 750hp redline.
My issue with Saturn's is the electrical and security problems
Very dangerous in a fwd platform, it can crabwalk right into the wall.
Some Saturns had the ECU under the cup Holder, causing some of the weirdest intermittent electronic gremlins ever, when peoples cofee/soda would spill.
I can proudly say not in the 1997 SC1!
Which saturns? That sounds like an urban myth
In the 06 Saturn Redline with "Competition package" I can say that you are definitely right. Directly under the cupholder was the ECU. I would have to say not really the best placement for the ECU. BUT IN SATURN'S DEFENSE...The cupholder an it's surrounding(the complete middle console) was one piece. Now they didn't have any holes to let in water but if somehow something did happen. It's going right on the ECU.
You guys are great together. This is gold
my buddy had a saturn ion in high school...dude drove that thing like he was in a demolition derby everyday, and it still made it....for a few years. i'd say they're very reliable cars in general.
Damn my Hyundai Elantra isn't gonna be worth 100k in 30 years? There goes my investment
Yeah same as your name
@@axel3895 lmao
Just stick to your El Camino Ryder, fool !
if you keep it in perfect condition for 50 years, it might be valuable
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The Z31 300ZX is so fucking beautiful! It has always been one of my favourite JDM designs. I don't understand why it hasn't got any real attention compared to the Z32.
Too bad people like to jack the prices up on even pretty beat up and/rusty ones nowadays when they're honestly still not worth that much. This is ruining the Z car enthusiast base. I got mine for $600 running and driving, though it is a little rough in the cosmetics department.
JDM is “Japanese Domestic Market”. The Z31 was available and mostly marketed for the North American market. I guess what I’m saying is that it wasn’t “JDM”.
@@carshius79 there are many other models on the Z31 chassis and not just the 300zx. The 300zx is the most known Z31 car, though.
@@carshius79 I know what JDM means. I didn't know it was mainly targeted at the American market though. It's still fucking beautiful, especially in comparison to the Z32
@@carshius79 lmfaoooo I thought it stood for Japanese Driving Machine 😩
I have a 2002 Buick Regal gs and it really feels nice to get noticed
They didn't even mention that the Saturn Ion redline had suicide doors in the back.... sad face.
Thats actually cool shit
The sc also had them before the ion.
My pops had one
Wha! Cool!
@@glyakk didn’t those SC’s only have one suicide door in the rear? I remember thinking they did which I always thought was odd
The ion Kinds hits me in the Nostalgia, about 2 years ago my cousin owned one of these, (the regular ion) it had about 165k miles, and we drove it from Las Vegas to Miami, at a constant speed of 90mph and it did just fine. So it hits me with the Nostalgia
The Ion Redline bit was pretty funny lol. But I’m not gonna lie, they’re pretty cool little cars. 300+whp on a maxed out M62/TVS build or go all out and bolt a turbo kit on. Oh btw did I mention that the stock bottom end will hold 500+whp with that turbo? Pretty cool imo.
This!! I had one new in '05. Maxed out on M62 blower and very fun at autocross.
I've owned both a Saturn Ion and a Dodge Caliber. I actually still have the Saturn. It's been, overall, really reliable.
The Caliber, on the other hand... I had to replace the ball joints, tie rods, sway bar links, shocks, struts, and rear toe arms twice each in just four years. I had to replace the fuel pump and both front brake calipers. The forward frame rail rusted out, leaving the engine on the verge of falling out, though a factory recall on that part saved me from a $2000 repair. Finally, the fuse box under the hood started corroding, which apparently is a common issue. I got $400 for it when I traded it in, and the dealer literally had it scrapped because it would have needed almost another $5000 in repairs. The Caliber was easily the biggest piece of garbage Dodge ever put their badge on.
That ended exactly how I though it would! I love my Z31, Z32 & Z33 ❤️
I’ve got a 04 Saturn ion redline, 323k miles and still running strong. Awesome car
I have a 04 blue, and once the snow melts in maine im buying a second 04 blue... Great cars.
I'd check if your supercharger is still producing boost. Don't trust the gauge.
“They’re the most awarded mattress brand of 2024”
I think he said: "They're the most awarded mattress brand of 2020 for a reason"
8:33.
Yep. That’s why I bought one and bought SLP parts. Very wise. It attracts attention still. As long as it is clean and has ZERO RUST, and service records, it WILL be worth money! It’s pretty much a FWD, 4 Door Grand National!
I follow what going to be collector cars since 1999 and hit EVERYONE on the nail. A SVT Focus will be another one that is going to skyrocket. I had a Suzuki Swift GTI for MANY YEARS and babied her. I sold her back in 2016 and regretted it. 100hp, 1800lbs. Alittle rocket that you can throw around corners and have tons of fun. Mine did a 14.9 1/4 mile with “choice” mods with no nitrous, boost, or major engine work at all. The Cobalt SS and the Saturn Redline will be worth it since it was a FACTORY Tuner car. Cars with Superchargers and Turbos or high revving from the factory will draw money in.
My sister owns a Saturn Ion redline. She’s kinda cool.
She makes bad decisions, I like it. Send her my digits bruh
Saturn's are sick. Idk what they're talking about 🤣
Yeah they’re clearly trolling. They hype up the cobalt which has the same exact engine except the later years when they put a turbo instead of a supercharger. Fun fact Saturn was the test run and Chevy liked it and decided to put it in the cobalt
@@paulm1690 wHaat ArE yOu dOinG StEp SaTurN
My family owns 2 Saturns, one of them is almost at 300,000 miles. My mom bought it new in '99 and it still runs today. That's the car I learned to drive manual on. If you take care of it it'll last forever.
8:49 I saw one of these a couple weeks ago and it looked like it just rolled off the production line, and thats not even a joke
The Grand Prix GTP and Monte Carlo SS also had the same motor in the Regal GS. There was also an Impala that’s less known about.
*21K people see this within the first hour*
Me: yeah I'm not getting any of these cars💔
If you haven’t already checked the views again please do so
"if you put an E on there, you're a lame-r"
*ford introduces mustang mach-e*
chaos ensues
Chaos.
Chaos everywhere.
Nice to see the Redline getting some form of attention. They're actually pretty neat. GM used this car as a test platform for the famous Cobalt SS. They came with the 2.0l supercharged lsj motor, and some package options included Recaro seats and a LSD trans.
They make just as much power as the s/c Cobalt, but are lighter, because plastic. They are by no means fast, but they're quite quick.
I have an '04 Redline with the Recaro package and LSD. It may have 208,xxx miles, but sure as shit, it still pulls on my mk7 GTI. Not the prettiest cars, but they're really fun to drive and absolutely eat up winding roads.
I had a 07 Cobalt ss w/2.0 lsj but no lsd. I thought about connecting a WOT switch to the turn signal because if you floored it, it would pull you into another lane. Light cheap car! Fun as shit to drive! Stage 2 cost like 500$ and took maybe hour or two to install with normal tools most people have in their garage and a rented pulley puller. Man do I miss that little shitbox
What all came in the recaro package, and would you recomend it as a first car? I'm a jdm guy but all the enthusiast models are jacked up in price right now, and the saturn seems weird and extremely uncommon in the car community, which is good
Frosty as far as i know the recaro package was just the seats but most of them have the lsd because they were fully optioned out. And as far as a jdm car id stray away from anything that’s high miles because as a first car you don’t want to be working on it 24/7 and don’t have another car to rely on
Frosty, id maybe recommend the ls400 or the sc400. The 1uz is stupid reliable if you keep oil in it and off the rev limiter and its auto so don’t have to worry about learning stick and u got room for friends. And i would say miata but they are so expensive rn. I have a 03 nb and saved for a long time to get it so maybe stay away from anything on tik tok too
@@frosty8936 depends on what you want to accomplish with the Redline, is it a daily driver or a weekend warrior?. If you find a lower mileage one with little rust underneath, and depending on what has been done to it and how it was taken care of. If you are mechanically inclined and have the funds, they can be great cars. Biggest issue is finding parts since they are uncommon and older. I love mine but I also found an 04 with under 60k miles, and no rust underneath. They are pretty peppy stock, but a few upgrades, some cooling mods, and if you add E85 to the mix you can be at 280 hp!
I love this channel. And the dynamic between the hosts is the best.
I’m just saying I owned a 96 Saturn Sl1 green. Probably has been my favorite car I’ve driven and whipped around empty dirt lots
I have a 2001 SC2 I bought for $2,500 10 years ago. Incredibly reliable and fun cars.
I had a Redline for a few years. It was an incredibly fun car. Did a lot of Autocross with it.
All of these cars just went up 2k in value 😂
you're fucking w me, source?
@@yngfljm2277 xxxvideos
@@yngfljm2277 he's full of shit, i hauled my csx off to the junkyard 2 weeks ago, got $220 for it, felt like i got the better end of the deal. these cars are rolling piles of shit. they were garbage when they were new and after 30 years they are far worse. do not waste your time with anything front wheel drive by chrysler before 1996.
I hope so I own two on the list
My buddy owns an ion redline that he turbo swapped. The sucker moves for what it is. Light as hell and the stock block and trans can handle 500 wheel hp. And they’re 5k all day. These cars are definitely slept on.
2003 Acura CL type S. 6speed manual transmission, they only made 2800 of them, and 800 only with navigation. I found one for 2500. Definitely a sleeper.
After waiting 4 years one popped up with navigation in black but the seller called it a collector's car and jacked up the price a couple thousand dollars. So now I wait again.
Where is it listed???
@@dat280zx9 It was listed in Philly, but was promptly sold. It is actually a collector's car for Acura enthusiasts, after all.
@@Eliotxf1 anything Japanese is awesome
This was easily one of the best episodes in a while... super entertaining and funny when you let James & Jeremiah play their natural games
I had a saturn ion. Everything electric broke, but the engine ran great
That's EVERY Saturn.
The ion was a Chevy. The first gen were bullet proof. I have a friend who still drives one every day.
@@josephivan5094 Only Saturn I had experience with that had no issues with was a SL1. That car only ever needed oil changes, brakes, and tires for 200,000 miles, burned a bit oil but that's it.
17:28 that Tesla stock analogy has aged like fine milk 🤣
Day 8 of me asking for an Up To Speed on the C10 like James promised.
One day, someday.
And dont forget the k series aswell
Nah chevy luv
You never heard of empty promises? just ask James's dad
Theres a Silverado one already i thought they briefly touch the c10 at the beginning.
“Saturns are totally unreliable” *me with my base model s-series with almost 200k*: 🤨
The are BULLETPROOF
S series are the best. Easy to work on. Light weight and go 300k miles.
I just got rid of mine a 260,000
The ecotec engine from GM in them is indestructible. Kinda sad they said Saturn's are garbage when their just rebadged GMs.
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar laughs in ion 3 with 240k
"who wants a Saturn"
Me wanting a Saturn Sky Redline
Me too I have a 07 Saturn ion 3 sedan and now I want the ion redline
I would LOVE a Sky! Hard to find a manual that isn’t black unfortunately
My brother and cousin have one they keeping it forever
My Sky redline has 186k.
Got to drive a Sky Redline when I had my Ion Redline. Man that was a fun car :D
When I was in 7th grade my teacher Mrs. Carlson had a bright red 300ZX. A couple of us kids got to ride in it on the way to a class trip to a fish farm and we all memorized and repeatedly sang the lyrics to Billy Joel's "Goodnight Saigon" and made jokes about Vietnam flashbacks while pretending to blast the trout out of the water at that fish farm. It was dope.
As an owner of a 50th anniversary z31 I'm so happy they included it in this list. With a Turbocharged v6 that has been modified to put out 1000+ whp, these cars are awesome to play around with, parts are cheap since the engines were used in the Pathfinder until the late 90s. Grab one while you can!
I thought they had an Inline-6 until the 3rd gen?
Z31 had a v6. The only model of z31 with an inline 6 was the 200zr that came with an RB20.
I had a saturn l200 with 550k on it and the only thing I replaced on it was the tires, oil and battery. That thing is bulletproof.
If anything, I feel like the supercharged 3800s and the Saturn Ion Redline will be one of those “best kept secret” cars. Underappreciated, and ignored on the auction block, but they will have their fans and are not bad cars performance wise, for their era. I knew a guy with a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP who said it could do 0-60 in about 7 seconds. Not bad for an early-2000s sedan.
Timed it myself on my 07 silver redline once, got 7.2 seconds.
@@Dappersworth shoot my 04 with very mild bolt ons is at 6.2
@@dylanbrown8246 I've only timed it once, and that was before the new header I installed recently. I'm sure it'll get much quicker when I install all of the stage 3 mods, already have half the stuff for it.
Watching James try to convince Jeremiah is like when I try to convince my friends my 1995 ford Thunderbird is cool
It is cool.
Same deal when I try to convince my friends my 1982 S10 is cool
@@DaverDave1911 hey that does sound dope
My mom has a 1991 that she bought new in 1992 and it's pretty cool. I like them
That era of Thunderbird was the best in decades. And the '94 Quality Care NASCAR Thunderbird was one of the coolest, prepared by the Bud Moore team.
Jerry is always happy and smiley but this is the first time in a donut video I have seen him laugh from the bottom of his heart! Great stuff! Pumphrey slaying it!
Don't think we missed that Dunkey reference from the Sopranos PS2 video James, lol
Those regal GS were pretty dope, they actually have a decent suspension setup.
My buddy had one back in the day, my Jetta GLI 2.0 16v was more nimble and had a much better steering feel. The GS still had the vague steering feel of a Buick. Also in " spirited " driving the brakes would smoke heavily as I remember.
Speaking of "to the moon," if you have a used pickup, now is the time to get rid of it. Lot of people getting more for them used, than they bought them for new.
Cause old trucks are awesome and look good, new ones are ugly as hell.
@@nathaneldredge1836 new trucks are drastically overpriced. An F250 Lariat 4x4 crew cab tops 85k
What am I going to do once I sell it? Spend all the money buying someone else's over priced pickup?
@@dobermanracing i should of added, "if you don't need it."
Yes my house and truck have never been worth more! Also I need both of them so I’m a theoretically wealthy broke fuck.
why did you have the mention z31’s, it’s gonna be impossible to find a cheap one now 😭
Yeah i already loved it, then they mention it. Pretty sure its gonna be a big one
Grab one up while you can, I've watched the price of them jump from $2k-$4k to $6k-$8k+! I love my '84😉
@@lillieghoast uhhh... you thinkin of sellin her? 😂
Jeremiah’s motorcycle collection/knowledge is slept on.
9:10 that buick is the car version of the new balence shoe
So glad I purchased my Z31 when I did, definitely seeing them starting to go up in value. More people are doing rear subframe swaps, increasing boost and drifting them, not to mention motor swaps that are done. LS, RB (300zr) VG33et Great potential
When I purchased my Z32 a couple years ago Z31's were floating around for next to nothing but I was dead set on a Z32. Now that I am in love with Z cars especially the Z31 and Z32 I was like damn I could probably scoop a Z31 now, but was pretty astounded to find how much they had already started to come up. How has your Z31 been treating you?
There was a Z31 imported from Hawaii were I live. I'm glad I didn't buy it. I would of killed myself.
I chosed a minivan instead with the same engine block. VG30(E)
@@theemasher777 when I got it I refreshed everything from poly bushings/ motor mounts/trans mount, powertrix coilovers, z32 front break upgrade, z32 brake master cylinder upgrade, and all the maintenance. She's been a great reliable car thus far that I can toss around in the canyons and enjoy the drive. Turns lots of heads and usually get stopped and hear stories from strangers about how they used to own one and rarely see them driving anymore
@@SirCavemaninthewest yeah probably would have been pretty badly rusted. I dont know why but east coast seems to have tons of them