Tifa Repairs Cloud's Mind FFVII Original Game
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2015
- Tifa helps Cloud piece together his true self when they both fall into the lifestream following an earthquake in the FFVII original game. Many of the contradictions in Cloud's back story are explained.
By the way... we're getting a REMAKE! - Ігри
Tifa accepted Cloud at his worst. She deserves him at his best.
i dunno about deserve but they need each other a lot
The just have to end up together, not only does it feel right, but it's also a loving relationship
@@lastprimaris7914 they do in the original game
Believe me, i feel similar. But somehow. SOMEHOW! A long death girl who he met and know for a month or so is considered better suited even though Cloud suffered from a split personality disorder. Like, hello? Where was Aerith when Cloud was about to fall from the Shinra tower, does Aerith even have the key to pull the things we saw in this video? I really highly doubt it.
It's embarsing to see people try so hard to proof a point how Cloud cant survive without Tifa
@@MrInuhanyou123 Are you refering to the Ultimania of 2010? I read it, it's quite a puzzle but im pretty sure they said something about Cloud and Tifa confessing without using strong words like I love you, correct?
I hope they nail this scene in the remake series. This is the most important part of this story. Cloud's mind becomes...Less cloudy
Holy crap, Clouds mindscape being literally clouded (it's gonna hamper the graphics rendering but I believe the devs can make it happen) that's a good idea
They will probably just surround everything with ghosts.
@@michaelcarnevale103 that is, if aerith lives... 😂😂😆
This shit is gonna be so intense in remake. They are really nailing the relationship between cloud and Tifa
Yea about that...
I know this arguement is 20 years old but if Tifa stayed with him during his weakest and strongest moments then I don’t know what true love is
This is real true love story, not bulsyiit gold saucer date
taufik chandra i always have dates with my friend (of course she’s not my girl friend at all), a date mean nothing
absolutely! and i like how the remake implies his infatuation with Aerith stems from Zack...
Christopher Gore not against aerith and cloud romance but the substance sort of dies out if aeriths only reason for liking cloud is “ i knew someone like you”
Jessie
Cloud's face while falling into the lifesteam: ಠ_ಠ
Yep.
The face of "oh no, I left the oven on".
Its the best
I mean, the dude is in a Vegetable estate so that's normal
@@moisesdeoliveira6312 it's still hilarious, imo.
When people think of FF7, they usually think of Aerith's death. But for me, this right here is one of the single greatest scenes in video games.
Aerith's death is iconic scene that is why people always thinks. But for me other than that when I hear or read FF7, Cloud and Tifa are always in my mind.
I am glad i am not the only one, i have always loved this scene the most since last time as it was a really turning point of the story where Cloud coming to terms with the truth and the whole revelation of the past is revealed in detail. Plus there is small appearance of Zack as well showing care for Cloud as a friend. I am looking forward to this scene more than the other in the remake
I would say vincent xD
I'm saddened by Aerith's death but this one feels different. It's not some groundbreaking or shocking event like Aerith's death but this one shows the depth of relationship of the characters. It shows the emotion and their bond. Truly magnificent.
Same here, many kind of feel when I watch their story. Aerith's death is iconic, but most tearfull scene is here. How cloud faced the experience of his life and how tifa tries to support cloud however he is and tell him he's not fighting his life alone.
Want to know what "love" is? Just watch this scene. Tifa stayed with Cloud day and night when he was on the verge of being broken, then helped piece him back together when he really was broken, even at the risk of sacrificing herself. If this isn't the ultimate example of love, then love doesn't exist.
Tifa loves Cloud...and Cloud in turn loves Tifa. Its so obvious!
Yes, I agree with your opinion .. Hopefully in this remake, this scene is made more touching the feelings of players, showing a deep bond and love between Cloud and Tifa.
so that Clerith has no more reason to brag or bullshit ..
@@ekawiyani1089 i mean thats how fandoms work...cloti even before the remake was pretty definitive but the war has continued for 20 years. Even if they were made even more obvious it would not be any different to the fandom wars
@@MrInuhanyou123
yeah, liking a character is fine, or liking any pair of ships is fine, but I think if it is too much it will bring negative impacts
@@ekawiyani1089 Speaking of braging. I met this really rude and obnoxious Clerith fan that downplayed Cloud and Tifa as "Brother and sister" relation. I found how he/she behaved and said BS theories and insulting other users so rude i had to use the Will Smith "im sorry I am alergic to bullshit" and then had the balls to call me stupid while his shouting nonsense, insulting others and completely denying some cons of Cloud and Aerith? i feel as of late some people are super salty.
How am i supposed to belief Cloud and Tifa are brother and sister after having a tender moment like this? Like, when or when do siblings ever talk and communicate like this? Seriously, Tifa is way into Cloud, she is just not so open about it.
Everyone talking about tifa’s unyielding support but here you also see how cloud has loved tifa since his childhood. every deeply rooted feeling and memory cloud has from his past literally revolves around tifa. She was the reason he began his hero’s journey.
True Love ❤️
I've made this point in many places - all calls to action in Clouds hero's journey are facilitated by Tifa Lockhart.
She is his inspiration to leave home and join SOLDIER. She finds him on the sector 7 platform and gets him involved in avalanche. She saves him from the lifestream so he can save the world.
She sees through Cloud's facade to the selfless hero underneath from the moment he follows her onto that bridge when they are kids on. The course of the game only reinforces her feelings as he becomes the hero she knows he really is.
AArdW01f God tifa is just such a great character!!she never gave up on cloud, when Tifa was little she wanted Cloud to become her hero but it turned out to be the other way around, Tifa became his hero✨the way their love develops through the game is the defenition of a “slow burn”.
ierdnA adrecaL i think it’s due to personal preference and also denying facts stated by developers/Ultimanias and twisting the meaning of said statement/facts. I always saw the Clerith ship as the “fantasy” and saw the Cloti ship as the “reality” and recently a lot of people have been agreeing to that.
@@xzvmakiz5171 yes, in the OG, Aerith represents fantasy and Tifa represents reality.
In the first part of the game, Cloud is not himself. He believes that he was in Soldier First Class, strong, confident and the hero who save the damsel. Aerith is included in this fantasy because she let him play the hero part. Cloud also have a 16 y/o mind & heart even his 21 y/o. Boys like this state of mind is easily to fall in love or attracted. Then Aerith dies this represents that Cloud don't need this kind of fantasy but to face his reality which is Tifa( to face Tifa for what really happened 5 years ago. He didnt made in Soldier and his a shame for himself). Tifa known Cloud since childhood. Even they're not that close but after the promise they attraction to each other go strong. Tifa never give up on Cloud. She always helps him, protect him and support him. Tifa accepts Cloud for who he is, in his worst & best.
I feel that Cloud is too hard on himself in this scene. He went through a lot of traumatic shit in a very short period of time and he could of just gone insane from it all and never recovered. Instead his mind found a way to move forward and repair itself. Sure it did this by creating a lie but it helped him survive. The mind is a powerful tool and it saved his life. Cloud doesn't give himself enough credit for that. It's hardly his fault that he "believed the lie", it was what he had to do to survive and be able to find out the real truth. He was never "weak" in the first place, nobody that is weak could survive what he did.
Damn I love this game...
That's not his mind. Tifa had the same traumas at the same time and did not build fake memories. The Mako did it.
@@XElhirrimX It is. The Mako just made his memories even harder for him to connect to each other. Tifa was the only link that allowed Cloud to finally complete himself.
@@ultrixsoma2736 absolutely bothing in the game or the compilation said his memories were confused because of the psychological trauma. Not a single line.
The mako sickness did this. It's explicitely said that it affects memories. Just like with the other Hojo experiments that complitely lost their consciousness.
Sephirot; No matter how hard i tried, ive never could scape reality, of what happened here. That, was my downfall.
Cloud: Sephirot... Is that you?
Sephirot: You tell me
Cloud: Im done playing games sephirot.
Sephirot: Oh i assure you, this is not a Game.
It takes a strong man, to deny whats in front of him and if the truth is unbearable, you create your own.
well Cloud suffers of PTSD and accuses himself of the death of Zack. he literally even takes the words of Zack too seriously by being him his Living Legacy by becoming him. i think that cloud punishes himself by becoming Zack
i guess no one cares about the doctor being eerily calm inside the building during the earthquake, then dies as the building collapses into the lifestream. RIP doctor, u will me missed.
webguy943 the doctor did not die. Come back to mideel after this. You’ll find him and the nurse perfectly fine
@@marksantiago9841 how did he get out of the building?????!?!?
@@webguy943 he teleported
@@webguy943 ultra instinct
@@webguy943 returning from last save spot
Geez...Mako-poisoned twice, an identity crisis, geostigma, and skewered by Sephiroth a second time. Guy really can't catch a break can he? Cloud needs a looong vacation with Tifa when the world isn't in a crisis.
The dude needs a psychiatrist.
He just needs to cry his eyes out, marry Tifa officially and then leave with her where not even Sephiroth can find them (this last is kind of impossible, but platonically beautiful)
Just like Roxas in Kh he lost Xion, he was manipulated, deprived of answers, and lastly, he lost all that he knew until Sora gave it back
Yes. It’s too dangerous to stay at a place of suffering.
Barret takes care of the kids? 😂
But yeah, they should go to Costa del Sol or maybe Cosmo Canyon or Wutai so they can be in a neutral place. Just the two of them 😏
6:52 Cloud is like "wtf is going on"
Andy ho yep
Cloud's iconic glazed donut eyes.
he's more like: xgnxhlkhjwbesje
This is fine
He tripping over why he’s in a wheelchair
now i remember why tifa theme sound so lonely yet so warm.
eternia reginleif unlike Aerith, most of Tifa’s scenes are loneliness and sadness.
@@unnoptan5810 Like if losing your mom at a young age, having your dad killed by Sephiroth, losing your bar, your home, your friends isn't bad enough
@@hathaway.1166 and yet aerith fans who are messed up in the head downplay that. Saying tifa is jealous of aerith. SHE IS JEALOUS. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. 🤦♀️
Beautiful
@ierdnA adrecaL "supposed"
I just realized that this isn't a one way session of Tifa helping Cloud. This is also where Tifa pieced back her past. Notice how of the three memories, Tifa only has one that she fully remembers (the Nibelheim 5 years ago). The one about the promise beside the well is hazy to her, and she never noticed about Cloud in front of her window.
People think that only Cloud is a crazy mess at the start of the game, but Tifa is actually not that far off either. Think about it. If you were Tifa, all you'd remember is that Seph came, burned the village, stabbed you in the chest, and the next thing you know you're in Midgar with Master Zangan. That's why Tifa is *so* cryptic with Cloud throughout Disc 1 and Disc 2 despite being his childhood friend, and that's why their interactions are often awkward and don't add up (you see her reel back every time the past is brought as the topic even though she should be the main reliable source for them).
Tifa doesn't want to talk about the past not because of some convenient plot device to set up the twist, but it's because she doubted her own memory of it. She never knew Cloud all that well despite being neighbors because of her social clique, and thus she doubted ever making that promise by the well, and doubted ever having a crush in the first place. She thought Cloud never came 5 years ago but Cloud started recollecting 5 years ago in great detail at the inn in Kalm, and thus she doubted that memory too. This is further compounded when the party revisit Nibelheim and see it not burned to the ground, making her doubt if she was rescued from a burning Nibelheim, or if she was just leaving it behind for the big city with her master.
I hope the remake conveys this perfectly. Cloud and Tifa isn't just a story about the girl next door saving her broken childhood crush. It's about mental illness and what it does to your identity, the meaning of memory for one's own identity, and about the bond between people who share memories. With this scene, the two can finally move on from Nibelheim 5 years ago. In Advent Children, Tifa talks with Cloud again so he can finally move on from FF7 main game, delivering them both proper to the future.
Edit: Case and point being Zack's parents in Gongaga. Aerith looked sad especially after the girlfriend question, but Tifa looks panicky. Aerith had no problem laying out how Zack was her boyfriend, but Tifa denied knowing Zack despite reacting to the name. Keep in mind at this point the player isn't supposed to know who Zack is and how important he is. Tifa probably denied this because it contradicts Cloud's memory about 5 years ago (Tifa can only know Zack if he was the other SOLDIER visiting Nibelheim instead of Cloud) and she's scared of what will happen (to their person and their current friendly relationship) if either of them finds out that their version of the past is the wrong one.
Wow,well said
Great analysis 👍
Great comment. People are either caught up in the waifu or shipping debate. The real reason why Tifa is a great character is not because she is a beautiful woman that can kick ass and a love interest for the protagonist. Everyone in FF VII suffers from a sort of survivors guilt as well as trauma from it. Tifa barely holds herself together and is so scared to ruffle her relationships with basically anyone but especially by confronting Cloud so much that the whole of FF VII could have been solved in Midgar if she just insisted on talking to Cloud. Instead, she has her heart "locked" as she is afraid. Her doubting herself and Cloud is a major part of FF VII and that comes from weakness. It seems that few people understand that FF VII is great because everyone is a mess and has major flaws and learn to accept, deal or learn from them.
The rebirth trailer has Tifa actually confronting Cloud about her part in the Nibelhiem incident, which is perhaps something major, or not.
You see they are already laying out this for Tifa in the remake perfectly. You can see that she is greatly troubled by her past, and it is not hard to see the reason she wants to have Cloud around is not entirely altruistic. She needed Cloud because he is to her the last memento of her lost home, he reminds her that she had a peaceful life before (at this point she probably doesn’t associate Cloud with the Nibelheim incident yet). No doubt she found Cloud in the same situation as the OG, that is why she doesn’t want to stress him the details and instead just want to keep him around.
Her character is contextualised even more via her interaction with Barret in the remake. They have an interesting dynamic: they both lost homes to fiery destruction caused by Shinra, they live like a family and care for Marlene, and build a life together. They act like a married couple, to be fair, Tifa shared more of her life with Barret than with Cloud at this moment. But through Barret we can see that Tifa is greatly in need of stability and a place to belong, otherwise she couldn’t move on from her loss in Nibelheim. In the Yuffie DLC there is a scene where Tifa rushed off to investigate Don Corneo’s men when she heard that they are probably after Barret, which lead to the Wall Market dressing up shenanigans. The remake made it clear that Tifa decided to do this on her own without consulting Barret, and the scene comes up right after Cloud’s supposed death in sector 5’s bombing, so her motivation was most likely to protect Barret, not wanting to lose yet another close friend. If you read the novel On the way to a smile, after the ending of FF7 OG, the party disbanded and only Cloud, Tifa and Barret remain together, with Barret only left after they had rebuilt another bar with the promise to return after he had settle his own issue. This context is important as we see this in remake where the trio look upon the ruin of sector 7 and talk about building another bar. The three characters share the same struggle to find stability and peace in their lives, haunted by the events of their past all the while.
That’s why it’s important to understand character romance are sometimes not just about attraction and chemistry, because I would argue Tifa has better chemistry with Barret, yet they never have a romance, while living the closest thing to a married life. Tifa struggle to live with Cloud between FF7 and Advent Children because she admit she doesn’t know him that well and his memory of Aerith’s death was a huge roadblock to their romance as well. But she tolerated all of that because ultimately she had achieved a semblance of peace living with Cloud, and similar to Barret, she shares with Cloud the sad memory of witnessing Aerith’s death and the lingering guilt of causing destruction and death on their path to pursue Shinra and Sephiroth, that is ultimately what made her relationship with Cloud work.
And for all that, the best moment if Tifa is when she slaps the crap out of Scarlett.
I am still amazed how genius the plot of ff7 is
Better than all the other weeb trash that the series is known for. FF7 broke the mold due to its amazing story and hilarious moments.
@@TonyPajamaz It's still kinda anime looking tho.
@@TonyPajamaz ff7 is a fantastic game but imo it's one of the biggest examples of anime influence compared to what came before it
@@tgrgjii8076 yeah I was bouta say like this was the most anime ff game when it came out😭
@akirafaris Facts bro, tho i'm torn between this and ff ix in that aspect
6:53 clouds face always kills me. He's like "they're kickin in..."
Mako not even once
Me on DMT
These edibles ain’t shit
I can't...
One drugs, please
"Thanks Tifa, tell him what you told me, later. He'll probably be so happy"
Damn, even his subconscious is telling her how deeply he cares what she thinks about about him, they never say to each other "I love you" but those little details are so obvious and beautiful... I swear I love this couple
I've been looking for this kind of comment because no one was talking about that line huhuhuhu
People are crazy as hell to ship anyone outside of these two as a couple swear ill fight that to the grave.
@@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s I never understood why square never made them an official couple
@@darkshadowsXtreme ffvii is not a love story tho
@@solgaleooflight8703 doesn't have to be a love story to make them a couple
cloud is so lucky to have a tifa with him
such an important but underrated scene.
True. Part of what makes Cloud so great as a hero is that he is a flawed human being. With everything from, trauma, personality, to even dare I say physical problems at one point and just like a real living soldier he copes with these things best he can. Sometimes failing, but with help from others and that instinct to live, he manages to pull through. He might have some Post Stress Disorder, hell multiple disorders definitely depression, but that only makes him more amazing because: it's a real reaction. Ff7 is successful because it has a lot of real dark human truths, many of us can understand or have felt. Like Loss.Yet Cloud and Tifa show us, that we can through perseverance endure and rebuild. We can live on.
This is easily the most emotional and best scene in the game.
Avery Kane This scene is the main reason why Cloud is a better character than Zach despite many fanboys lauding over Zach as the superior protagonist. Zach is a Gary Sue who barely has any faults, while Cloud is a flawed and weak character initially who finally finds his footing. Much more dynamic by comparison.
@@SouljaStrife 11 Months old comment so maybe he won't respond, but I'll say that while Crisis Core had some major faults with its writing (The horrible antagonist given to Zack and the retconning of certain events), I think the biggest missed opportunity was not displaying how flawed Zack's optimistic outlook and idealism really was. He could've been played up as someone that really believed in Shinra propaganda, committing morally grey actions that he'd have difficulties trying to justify throughout the game until the final straw at Nibelheim. His final stand should not have had him look upon SOLDIER with any sort of reverence, and a line like "Defend your honor as SOLDIER" rung hollow when you consider just how much crap he's seen and dealt with regarding both Shinra and SOLDIER alike up to that point.
Dude why do so many people say shit is underrated when it isnt?
29:50 when your leg is numb and you trying to walk down the stairs
I laughed so hard at this, thank you
I just find it lovely but sad that Cloud original wish was to get Tifa to notice him without him realizing that Tifa had always noticed him and even thought he was cute. Heck, she even starts reading newspaper just to look up any news about him, that's not something a girl who doesn't notice you would do.
Technically she didn't notice him until he asked her on a date when they were kids, but yeah, definitely after that.
@@SyndicateOperative they used to be pretty close being that their mothers were friends. In nojima's trace of two pasts (where he talks in depth about tifa and aerith's childhood + both girl's friendship).
This scene!! THE moment when they open themselves to each other... When Cloud finally expose his weakness to tifa... I'm a man and i totally melted for this emotionnal story!
Biggs: "You don't have to be a Soldier to make a difference" Cloud proved that time and time again. If only he knew he'd become a hero even without needing the power of Soldier
Skullof Rebellion well, he does actually have power of Soldier, i mean he can hold Sephiroth’s katana when he’s stabbed and throw Sephiroth off to the Mako. Also, he did get injected by Jenova’s cell after the Nibleheim tragedy, which is what makes Soldiers stronger.
So, he does have the power of a Soldier, he just never admitted to the organization. He would’ve officially become a Soldier if Zack never wake up and saved him from Hojo’s experiment.
@@AtriasNaradan He didn't have the power of soldier when he picked up Sephiroth and threw him into the lifestream in Nibelheim. He was a regular infantry man who raised to the occasion to save the day. That's really what I meant
@@skullofrebellion6653 As someone else put it: "He had the mother of all adrenaline rushes."
Skullof Rebellion he was a regular infantryman, but he does turned out to have the required power to become a Soldier. That’s kinda the point of the Sephiroth throwing scene, even Sephiroth says “impossible” when Cloud lift him up by the Katana...Sephiroth was surprised because he never tought that Cloud to be that strong, because that’s the kind of strength that usually get someone admitted to become a Soldier. You don’t think that Soldiers are weak before getting injected by Mako energy right? They’re all have above average potential, that’s why they’re chosen to become Soldiers.
Even after that scene, it proves further that Cloud was actually have the potential to be a Soldier, when Hojo pick him to received Jenova cell. That’s pretty much saying that Hojo wants to make Cloud a first class Soldier candidate, that can replaced Genesis and Sephiroth.
Skullof Rebellion also, your original post was obviously talking about the FF7 timeline Cloud, not the Crisis Core one. FF7 timeline Cloud is one that already got injected by Jenova cell...his achievements doesn’t fit to be the proof of what Biggs says, that you don’t have to be a Soldier to make a difference...because while Cloud is not a Soldier, he got the power of one.
"You're sure messed up, Cloud!"
Always gets me. Especially since it's Tifa saying it and not Yuffie or Cid.
Or Barret.
That will propably became Barret's or Cid's line in the remake. I wouldn't put it past Yuffie either but it has to someone else than Tifa. It has a weirdly slapsticky tone to it.
The twist of Cloud being the soldier in the background who survived the whole time was one of the best twists in the game.
Part 3 is going to be epic
Fun fact: Zack was originally intended to be the main character. Cloud and everything he brings with him to the story was all a last minute change. Just like Zero in Megaman; Capcom played it safe instead of following their passion (a red bomber)
@user-jw9jf2bz7v But this part has already been spoiled in the remakes. Hojo pretty much spoils it in Remake.
@@LordMalice6d9 not to the people who never played the game
Well, trooper. Not soldier but yeah
27:22 when the music kicks in, when all the pieces join together, truly one of the defining moments in this masterpiece!
Imagine how the remake of the masterpiece like this would be
We did experience this whole situation in Crisis Core, you know. xD
But yeah, I know you're referring to the FF7 remake, I hope they put a lot of thoughts into this one :)
Hell yeah my favorite part as well.
Agreed
28:59 is my favorite part. I can just imagine them closing up to Cloud and then panning out with him screaming as he see's that his former hero turned his village into a living hell
Without Tifa there's no FF7
In the original FF7 didn't have Tifa. Only when decided to replace barret's death for Aerith is when the developers decided to create another female lead. She was the last character created.
@@LCardosed92 that would've been awkward if Barret were killed instead
Not without Cloud either
@@LCardosed92 true. But Aerith was created to be looking like Tifa first but it got rejected.
Tifa was then created separately to be the perfect woman for Cloud.
@@kaage8780 It is the opposite. Aerith was supposed to be the perfect girl for Cloud. Cait sith predicted they would be a perfect match and even Cloud's mom told him the type of Aerith was going to be the ideal type for Cloud.
coming here after rebirth to say i can’t wait for this to show up in the third installment.
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but when tifa fell into the lifestream in gongaga, i just felt a wave of emotions. seeing how it looked.. almost identical to this sequence. it was beautiful and an amazing way to foreshadow this scene and how mentally strong tifa is to even go through this. really hope they don’t mess it up and stay true to this version
The moment when I totally fell in love with this game
@Águila701 i know right.
I fell in love when I was doing the crossdressing quest. This scene is my favorite in the entire game, even slightly edging out Aerith's finale and Sephiroth debuting in the pink swirly clouds as you hear One Winged Angel.
Not my first playthrough, since I hate to read and follow story. But then when my next playthrough, this scene made me tears.
"That means he ain't no different from before!"
Barrett words are simple but carry a great wisdom. We are all masters of our own illusionary world, we create so much problems to ourselves and we can understand it and fight hard to acquire the awareness necessary to see the illusion, only to discover that we "were no different". We are always the same.
dude... this is powerful. and yes, i create an illusionary world with problems created by myself on a daily basis. so i know what you are talking about.... it's also why ff7 is so dear to my heart now. it's unbelievable, but i actually only recently got into it. i missed out on a lot back then, never actually playing this game! crazy, but nowadays, i think so much about the depth of this story and the characters, specifically cloud, because i relate to him so much, even when i never faced such trauma, i can just identify with his character in itself. we all need healing... God bless you!!
The background in the lifestream looks like the rift that you can see in the sky in Rebirth
Multiverse is cloud spinning coping realities in his head perhaps?
The theory going around is that Sephirtoth’s “blessing” that he gave to Cloud is the ability to perceive multiple realities, which explains why Cloud sees the rift but no one else can.
That, our Cloud’s mental health is supremely fucked. Far worse than the OG
The romance between Cloud and Tifa has always seemed much more natural and heartfelt than with Aerith. Aerith is a better match for Zack, but Cloud and Tifa go together perfectly.
@Aaron9 She said Zack was her first love, despite only knowing each other for like a day. She was kinda a hoe for him tbh...
@@pandiem Not to mention, she only met Cloud for like two weeks and started falling inlove with him too
No offense tho
Aaron9 She confirmed Zack is her first love in remake
Aaron9 bruh
@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari he got rejected even in afterlife 😂
This is arguably the climax of the game, but I’m curious how the Re Trilogy would take things even further to make it the scene that caps off Cloud and Tifa’s romance arc now with Rebirth’s establishment of Tifa and Cloud being developed as the main romance of the trilogy.
Really hope they pull this off and express their feelings to each other in a way that OG wasn’t able to do with the limited technology, music and writing for the time.
Not the climax of the game, but certainly the a0ex of Clouds character development.
They will. The fact that all of the lead developers on the Remake project (Nojima, Nomura, Hamaguchi, Uematsu) have all stated that their personal favorite moment in all of FF7 was this exact sequence.
Seeing what they did with Tifa in Gonagaga with Rebirth, I have full faith in them that they’ll recreate this experience with an even deeper and more emotional impact.
Remember, in the OG, Cloud accepts Aerith’s death when it happens. He doesn’t in Rebirth…
Scenes like this make the relationship with Aerith seem so... surface level. Tifa was a girl he shared a childhood with, someone he fought to protect, somebody whose life was intertwined in his on a very deep level. Aerith was a flower girl he thought was cute she to her he looked like her old boyfriend.
Well it was confirmed by the creators that Aerith did grow attracted to the real Cloud that she could see within and (somehow) became more attracted to him than she was to Zack. Though on the rest I agree. This scene and the events that lead up to it just instantly made me love Tifa. Believing in Cloud even when everyone else thought he was a traitor, staying behind to be at his bedside and nurse him back to health, helping him rebuild his fragmented mind....I know that Cloud's mom wanted him to have an older girlfriend that would take care of him and Tifa might not be older, but she DEFINITELY fulfills the far more important taking care of him requirement. Holy shit, Cloud....dude....what are you waiting for? Get this woman a ring now you fool!
Yeah it seems so. Actually, this scene made sense to what Aerith told Cloud during the date scene. During that time, he still playroled as Zack, hence why she saw Zack in him... But she realized she wasn't Zack, and wanted to know Cloud. ("I want to know... You" so that You is revealed to be the real Cloud)
@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari It goes deeper than just attraction unfortunately. Apparently in one of the expanded universe novels that takes place before Advent Children, I think it was Maiden who travels the planet but I'm not 100% on that, Zack meets Aerith again in the Lifestream and tries to start again with her, but Aerith isn't having any of it. She says that she and Zack could never be in a serious relationship because of his womanizing habits. (Zack was described by Aerith as a lady's man/playboy in the original game) She basically tells him that he's not long term relationship material and that she prefers the shy and honest type like Cloud. So really no matter who Cloud chooses (I always choose Tifa because...again...after disc 2 how could I not?) Zack is shit out of luck because Aerith has put him securely in the friendzone. His only option is to wait around and hope that Aerith eventually warms up to him again. That's essentially what he's doing in Advent Children, sticking to her like glue and trying to win her over so that she'll give him a second chance. His prospects aren't looking good. I'm hoping the remake gives us the option to change this, because honestly Zack deserves more credit than that.
@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari Oh I completely agree. From what I've read, the writers basically wrote the love triangle so that the player ultimately decides who Cloud loves in the end. So if the person playing decides he loves Tifa, then he loves Tifa. If the person playing decides that he loves Aerith, then he loves Aerith.
For those who do ship Cloud and Aerith together, it's implied that Cloud and Aerith have a spiritual connection that they can use to see each other whenever they want and that Cloud will be reunited with her when he joins the lifestream and finds her in the promised land after death. Personally I never liked Cloud and Aerith as a couple because I just find the idea of two lovers waiting to be reunited in death incredibly depressing. Plus like you said, Tifa did so much for Cloud by the end of the game and their relationship felt so strong to me. So I've always thought of them as a couple by the end of the game. The both of them deserve some happiness after all of the shit they've been through. Still though, while Cloud's feelings are up to the player to decide, the feelings of the two girls aren't so up in the air. Both Tifa and Aerith are completely in love with Cloud. This unfortunately means that poor Zack is left hanging. He gets to travel the lifestream with the girl he likes, but also knows that same girl would rather be with his best friend...Poor guy can't catch a break.
@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari Yeah Cloud shares a spiritual connection with both Zack and Aerith. I'm pretty sure Square intentionally wrote this in so that people could interpret the connection in different ways depending on how they viewed the character relationships. Square always does that when it comes to the couples in VII, giving some hints to each one without ever fully committing to either. Like they'll say Cloud wants to meet Aerith in the promised land, but they never say why and it's up to us to decide why he would want to see her again. For some people the answer is simply that he loves her and wants to be with her. I always saw it as Cloud wanting to see her again simply to make sure she was okay and to ask her forgiveness for failing to save her. Square did also have Tifa and Cloud living together after the game, but they never actually confirm whether or not they're a couple and it's left to us to decide what their relationship really is. That's the thing with VII's love triangle. We'll never get a straight answer as to which pairing is canon because both of them can be canon. It's just up to each player to decide which pairing they prefer. You don't have to apologize for the whole Zerith thing. I actually agree with you and like Zack and Aerith as a couple too. Unfortunately though it seems like Aerith won't return his feelings. Square has decided that she has to be kept available for anyone who would choose to ship her with Cloud and that means poor Zack is out of luck.
I’m really intrigued to see how this scene is remade in the remake series, it’s a really powerful scene and it shows how much Cloud truly means to Tifa while getting his memories back.
This video left out an important cutscene, that Tifa told everyone she doesn't care anything except Cloud, she won't participate the World-saving mission from this point, and since the world is ending, she will spend the rest of her time caring Cloud.
This statement actually hit me pretty hard back then, showing how deep Tifa loves Cloud. You can't see this in the early parts of the game.
This is probably the most important moment of FF7. Can't wait to see how they will adapt this in the remake series.
Four or so years to go! Sigh...
Came here just fantasizing about what it would be in 3,4...5? years... I really hope they don't fuck it up or overcomplicate it sigh
@@marielverano2193 3 year the director says that
"So you really did come when I was in trouble!"
Probably in my top 5 moments of this perfect game and story.
I also get teary-eyed each time at 27:20 when the music kicks in. Feels like everything in the story was leading to this revelation. The "me" who played this in 1997 when I was ~13 years old was going through a lot of crap at that time... characters like Batman and Cloud always inspired me to remain pure/good at heart.
Can’t wait to see that part in remake eventually 😢
Cloud is broken man indeed. But it made him relatable to us. He lived someone elses life, because he always feel lack of himself. This scene is so important as a turning point when we finally meet the real Cloud. I can't wait the remake version of this.
Yes I agree, although I connected to Cloud, I was furious when they accused Cloud of a crime he didn't commit. The village and Tifa's father believed he lured Tifa and the kids to hike up a dangerous hill when it was Tifa's own recklessness that put her in a 7 day coma and she didn't have the heart to tell the truth and so everyone believed a lie. I was also angry that the kids alienated Cloud especially Tifa who gave him the cold shoulders and she went along with it. I get they were childhood friends but not very close. As a result Cloud feeling useless for not saving Tifa, he started acting all Bravado, picked fights, dreamed of becoming a SOLDIER to try and impress Tifa, and acting as a cold person. I EXPECTED TIFA OUT OF ANYONE TO TELL THE TRUTH BUT DUE TO HER SHYNESS WAS PART OF THE REASON CLOUD BECAME INDIFFERENT TO EVERYONE AROUND HIM, PEOPLE WERE NO DIFFERENT THAN TIFA OR THE VILLAGE OVER TREATMENT.Finally, although it seems cruel it seems justifiable for the way he behaved by his childhood upbringing, he also gets his revenge albeit regretfully when he guarded Sephiroth when he tours the village 2 years later and then Sephiroth murdered everyone in the village including Tifa's father (minus Tifa) I hoped their cruelty was worth it knowing they died without ever knowing the real truth.
He's not broken at all, you can blame Hojo for everything done to cloud mind.
Mako poisoning and Jenova cells aren't good for the body or mind.
He's lucky to be alive to be honest. Cloud in shinra was pretty sweet guy with nice personality.
You can see him in crisis core.
@@TehReasoning he's definitely has issues pertain with his own psychology, he felt inferior (always not good enough to deserve happiness or to win notice), when the pressure he put on himself became too much, he would have mental break down and need his family and friends to pieces him whole again. Jenova cell and mako poisoning made his bad side more apparent, imho.
On Crisis Core he was still young, just joined SOLDIER, but the purpose of it was stemming from his need to prove himself to Tifa, if he's strong enough he wished Tifa to notice him. We also remember he can't socialize with kids of his age on his village, he felt 'different'. Thus combined with other personas (through Jenova cell and mako poisoning) he became more not of himself/corrupted. After he regained himself thou, we finally find his good side; which are loyal, helpful, collected, determined, and so on. Still when his bad side triggered and got the best of him, he will again facing mental breakdown like what happened to him after the meteor, before Advent Children.
@@monicasuprantio7371 Cloud has what we in the real world would call "Dissasociative Identity disorder" or "DID".
@@jasonle9596 Thank you. I really never understood why people would romanticize child Cloud's love for Tifa as being beautiful when in fact it was born out of isolation, guilt and a superficial belief of superiority. And after he regains back his memories, present Cloud is supposed to take child Cloud's love as real? It boggles the mind that people just believe this. I'm just stunned. That is just dark. Is Cloud some-kind of masochist? I appreciate that Tifa journeyed through the lifestream to help Cloud find his memories back, but I always wondered why now after Cloud has become so broken with not just lost memories but doubts because of Sephiroth telling him he nothing but a clone. Why wait until the last moment when there was no other options left? I never understood this. Cloud went through so much torment... In the first place, it was Tifa's fantasies that the mako emulated which is the reason Cloud created a separate persona, he used Zack as base, because that seems to be what Tifa fantasizes about... and that's supposed to be touching... I really can't relate.
the only way Tifa found out about Cloud's love for her was to dive into his mental state.
the reason he wanted to join SOLDIER
the reason he wanted to be noticed
why Cloud wants to be a hero
it was all for her in the end.
The potential for this sequence to be the most visually stunning scene of ff7 remake trilogy is insane 😭
31:36 This is probably my favorite moment in the game. Cloud's mental projections rise as one, showing he's finally whole again. He's made peace with his past and present, and is ready for his future: kicking Sephiroth square in the pockets.
And accepting that he always was worthy for Tifa.
i feel like he didn't make peace yet at this time. only after advent children, he truly forgave himself i think.
@@justahuman9273 yes, I think so too. His face really change after AC event, that he has release all his burden.
This plot point is exactly why I love FF7's story
I can't wait to see how THIS part will look like in the FF7 REMAKE!!!
We have 3 versions of this scene. FF7 // FF7 CC // FF7 BC (ova).
@@guts6310 Yeah but now I can't wait to see the new REMAKE VERSION of this part!
@ierdnA adrecaL That's FF7 CRISIS CORE!
Shame the remake was such a pos.
@@RyanJinxedCoffee What's that mean?
_I'm Cloud... the master of my own illusionary world. But I can't remain trapped in an illlusion anymore... I'm going to live my life without pretending._
I wish everyone was this brave. In Jesus name ❤🕊❤️🕊
Can’t wait to see this part in remake version...
If they stick to the original story, yes. If not... Well... We'll see what happens!
Agreed... hope they develope but not change it
Nadia Nayebzadeh This comment aged badly ... Sadly a ending wasted this part
One year later.....nop
@@Jfray252 They would still do this part in the future games
please. please respect all this in the 3 part. with all the new graphics and tifaXcloud moments. we deserve to see something like this
They have remained faithful to the original so far with Remake and Rebirth, minus a few additions and deeper story lore.
No doubt this will be on there. Don’t forget, Cloud got a vision of himself on a black robe in Rebirth. Plus SPOILER
What Cloud sees in the sky at the end of Rebirth is eerily similar to the starry white background in this sequence
6:53
*”Why are we still here, just to suffer?!?”*
xD damn, this will never get old!
Yes.
Just to protect Tifa , he wants to be a Soldier .. A very touching reason and makes me melt .. 😍😭
A truly touching love story ..
They must end up happy in the remake version ..
True Love, Cloud x Tifa
Tifa to Cloud: “You were so small then....
....and cute.”
Tifa repaired cloud's broken mind, then Tifa let Cloud go balls deep in her under the highwind to make him feel better. Be more like Tifa, everyone.
Damn... Tifa is literally too good for Cloud that he should die for
@@night00glider Cloud helped her friends, and sacrificed his mental state to save her from Sephiroth, they're nobody is "too good," for anyone here.
@@night00glider mean he should go die bcs tifa is too good for him? sorry eng is not my first language
@@DarkLordofTheRizz is it his or her friends?
Zexion Steins English isn’t my first language too haha, I meant that, if anyone Cloud should be risking his life for, its Tifa, like how he has done when he was a child...
My favorite scene/section from the OG game... they really masterfully handled Cloud's trauma/PTSD and subsequent mental breakdown. It was a genius move to allow Tifa to enter his subconciouness through the Lifestream and allowing them to fix his psyche together. I REALLY hope the third game can nail this scene. I cannot wait.
Same here. Cody Christian & Britt Baron are gonna put on the most emotional and intimate moments in the conclusion. It's gonna be worth the wait 3 to 4 years from now.
This shows everything cloud did to enter soldier was so that Tifa would notice him. It was always Tifa form the get go. And people STILL try a make Aerith and cloud happen. Just no.
good thing SE is really pushing cloud+tifa relationship in the remake, never liked aerith tbh lol.
Those ppl never played Crisis Core. It's the proof that Aerith and Zack are the soulmates
@Kosename preach sir
they dont wanna accept fairith canonicity
(fairith = i combined aerith with fair, zacks last name, cuz i couldnt combine zack with aerith to make a nice ringing ship name anyway bye)
because they are blind and still cannot accept the fact that Cloud's first and last love is only Tifa ..
@@demonking86420 Crisis Core was never that good a game.
It reasons many story elements from the original FF7. Then you have Genesis who is one of the most non-essential characters in the entirety of the FFVII compilation modelled after a J-pop artist Gackt.
Aerith knew that something was not right about Cloud. She knew that the Cloud she was with was not the real Cloud and their date at the Gold Saucer proves this, when she says she wants to meet the "real you".
Tifa talking to Leslie then glancing at cloud: “We’ll meet again. It’s a symbol of reunion”
Cloud to Tifa in the lifestream after Tifa repairs his mind: “ Yeah...Tifa... We finally meet again...” the foreshadowing in FF7R is great. I can’t wait for the lifestream sequence!!!!
Can't wait too :)
@@xzvmakiz5171 when you see how beautiful they made a lot of their scenes in the first part of the Remake then i think future parts with their moments like the Highwing scene will be amazing :)
I can't wait to see this part in REMAKE MODE too! lol
@@hraberuka2847 What even makes you think this scene will even be recreated in the next "remake" installment When the truth about Cloud has already been spoiled to death, even to knew FF7 players?
@@hraberuka2847 I hope that the remake focuses a bit more on Cloud and Tifa's relationship from a romantic angle when appropriate. Because if you were to pick two people that are THE embodiment of the word "soulmates", it's probably Cloud and Tifa.
For many years, Tifa and Cloud who held love feelings with each other. Finally before the final battle with Sephiroth they finally confirmed the feelings they wanted each other.
Source "FINAL FANTASY 25th MEMORIAL ULTIMANIA Vol.2" Square Enix 2012 p023
Cloud and Tifa had both loves forever
We can assume they did it after Tisa said "Cloud... Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking..." right ? I can't wait to see this moment in the remake, but problably not until at least a third game.
@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari They crossed the line in the game and did it at the end.
@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari This is what they said just before the nigh falls,
"Cloud: Hey Tifa...... I...... There are a lot of things I wanted to talk to you about. But now that we're together like this, I don't know what I really wanted to say... I guess nothing's changed at all... Kind of makes you want to laugh...
Tifa: Cloud... Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking...
"
After this there is even another hint from Cid who's making fun of them saying that he saw them from the Highwind with Barret and Red. On what Tifa puts herself in a corner kneeling and her head in her hands embarrassed as never. ^^
@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari I think this scene will be even more suggestive in the remake
Highwind scene canon.
Love the reason that Sephiroth is so obsessed with Cloud is that a total nobody yeeted his ego-tripping ass into a hole. If he accepts that Cloud is Just A Guy that means Sephiroth isn't some dark messiah God. It's like if the antichrist got run over by a janitor's car. I can't wait to see that scene in the Remake trilogy.
Why I love Tifa and why she is so very important to this story. I understand the role Aerith plays, but Tifa's connection goes way deeper than that. She knows the truth and experienced it firsthand. Cloud is someone she wanted to protect, while also trying to figure out her own emotions. Such a great character and this gave her some much needed character development.
I think for Rebirth II, Aerith will play role in how they get to this moment. She's searching for the real Cloud and can't find him. That's because Tifa is the only one who can find him.
Some of my favourite moments from the story:
1. Flashback sequence in Kalm where we first learn of Sephiroth.
2. When we enter the crater for the first time and Sephiroth explains how Clouds' memories are a lie.
3. This sequence where Tifa dives into Cloud's mind and helps bring his mind and soul back.
Those three events are which really pays my attention whenever I plays the game
2. was great because Cloud was so sure of himself that you believe him, until you see Tifa's reaction and realize its true.
I still remember the first time playing this game in high school when this game came out, #2 really bugged me out because I felt REALLY bad for both Cloud and Tifa. Tifa's odd choices of words whenever Cloud brings up the past starting to make sense and Cloud completely loses his mind, and poor Tifa just collapses in defeat. In my head I could just imagine Tifa crying the entire time feeling like she lost Cloud forever. I can't wait how they pan this out in future installments of the Remake.
If the part 2 of the remake stuck to the original story of FFVII and if they include that part... I can guarantee that every single fan will die drown in their own tears.
Jason Adjiwanou it won’t, they’ve changed everything and now Zack isn’t even dead, they’ve fucked up, let’s pray cloys hasn’t changed because zacks death is really important
@@blaiseofficial9055 i think zacks dead, and that was another timeline. sort of a 'what could have been' if the dementors didn't exist or were defeated before that. look at the picture of the dog in the flashback, the dog looks totally different from how it does in the rest of the game (different breed etc). and they used pictures of that dog in like 2 or 3 chapters as visual cues for where you were supposed to go, so it's definitely meant to trigger something in the viewer and serve a purpose hinting at something. i dunno what else it could be but 'this is an AU.' i guess we'll have to wait for the first previews of part 2...
@@grandpathong Maybe Sephiroth will kill the two of them right in front of Cloud? Maybe the Final boss will be Jenova herself, not through Sephiroth or an illusion, but herself. Maybe this Destiny's modification will give a happy ending for everyone (even Aerith and Zack), maybe it will clarify some fans old questions... Let us wait for the meteor to fall down and show us its blazing vision.
That didn't make any sense, but I wanted to try something.
Part 2 is ending with Aerith's death or Sephiroth activating Meteor
He's alive (sort of) but not in Remake or OG's timeline. Also Kitase said that there won't be any drastic changes to the story and it will be still ff7 that we've loved. And no, Tifa won't die *Smells Clerith fans in the air*. Everything is in Remake's Ultimania, which is true because there are interviews with Nojima, Kitase and Nomura. Also yes they are pushing and will be more Cloud and Tifa scenes according to Nojima and Nomura
You can already see the direction they're going in the Remake, how they're going to develop things. Tifa, who cares so much about other people, who even cares about saving Shinra employees, is going to have this moment when she says "I care about nothing else, only Cloud," because that's how much things are going to develop.
i agree..they show how much tifa cares about others, but also how much undercurrent she has towards cloud even in the early stages and her complex emotions when dealing with her hatred and PTSD toward shinra while also wanting nothing more than just to live a normal life with cloud. Its hard to overstate just how emotionally crippling the events coming up are going to be with aerith dying, cloud's mental state breaking from sephiroth and the black materia, and tifa not really having any real sense of place without cloud due to all of the stress
I dont see this dialogue. I care about nothing else, only Cloud. Where?
Anyway, after she survived from lifestream and opened her eye. "Cloud where is he?" The first thing in her mind not herself but Cloud. 😍
Cloud you are so idiot. I am mad at you on FF-AC.😡 You does not take care her well. Dont be so emo. Tifa lost almost everything same as you Cloud but she has to be strong for you. She is always be there for you.
Cloud You gonna do better this time in FF7R.👊 Dont make me hate you.
@@supaporntan2548 It's cut out from this vidoe, but at 3:38, it shows the rest of the party is talking with the Doctor, and then Tifa steps out as well and says the following:
Tifa
Yes...... I'm sorry I had you all worried.
And I have something I want to tell you all......
(She turns back inside and the others follow.)
Tifa
I don't care about anything else, only Cloud......
Oh man I can hear it now. The sequences of his iconic "ugh... Uhuah... Ugh.. *chokes*"
Rofl
I need to be alive to see the continuation of rebirth and see how this scene will be portrayed, I've never been as excited for the end of a video game "saga" as I am now
Same same I can't wait
Cloud always loved Tifa, since they where kids, that's so wholesome.
Yep! He just wasn't himself since what Hojo did to him.
That sick hojo is the blame for what is happend to cloud . I hate hojo
@@gibbs615yep and despite it he still found her and she found him
@@awtodor True that
I love this version the best, always will. But I won't lie when I say I'm excited to see how they do it in the remake.
Coasting you’ll see soon enough
That was meh at best. Waaayyy too much side padding.
Unfortunately for you if u dont want to get spoiled everything will change go watch ending of remake if u want to know why
@@wholesome_masochist4113that was the point lol expanding the world of FF7 via a remake and FF7R is not "meh" its amazing i replayed it still the most polished FF game in the last 20 years
@@mykise1652it will not be changed because multiple universe will exists
I love how Cloud and Tifa are in the life stream for a while and Tifa is in Cloud's subconscious recovering his mind and real memories till all their friends save them and they regain consciousness
The only reason I clicked on this video is the thumbnail,
It looked like tifa was going to throw cloud out of his wheelchair.
This sequence better be amazing when it gets the HD treatment in the follow-up to Rebirth.
It will, and I argue the stakes are now even higher than before. SPOILERS
This sequence will for sure be in part 3, but guess what? There will be an additional section: Cloud learning the truth of what happened at the Forgotten Capital - the truth regarding Aerith
Cloud and Tifa are a real couple, there is plenty of small things that proves that.
Aerith is dead and she is with Zack.
Cloud lives his life happy with Tifa in the end of AC.
Moon Door Agree Zack and Aerith are like parents guidance ,quality life lesson and inspiration from both. Zack tell Cloud that he is his living Legacy of "freedom" Aerith inspires him to fight furthur through love even both are already dead their efforts event effect cloud still.
Moon Door aerith also never lived the true Cloud, she never met him.
Nate W he never moved on. Tifa is his first love and only love.
Then both give birth to a kid named Noctis
I don’t know, there’s cases to be made for both women.
But honestly this whole love triangle is so ambiguous it’s truly frustrating. Aerith seems to like Cloud, but she’s in the Lifestream with Zack. Tifa seems to like Cloud, but they don’t sleep in the same bed, and at times acts like a mother to him.
Hopefully the remake makes it clearer on what they all feel for one another.
Cloud never became the hero wanted to be but he was always the hero Tifa needed and to the rest of the world.
You see how much tifa loves cloud . Man tifa iss the best heroine for me
Coming here right after FF7: Rebirth, but mannn if Cloud doesn’t wife her up after all of this then I will!
I really hope we get a happy cloud x Tifa finale as it should be
The faces on Cloud and Tiffa are priceless. There like "Oh no, we just cant catch a break... and the ground is skaking? Oh sh.....!!!!!".
See, this playthrough alone shows that Aerith wasn’t the one who always stayed by Cloud’s side and helped him recover and regain his true self. It was Tifa and Tifa only who stayed with Cloud and helped him at his worst.
To be fair Aerith was long gone when the events of Mideel happen
also the theory is the reason they survived the lifestream was that she was protecting them
Agreed, although Aerith couldn’t help him like Tifa even if she wanted to, as she never knew the full story of Nibelheim. It’s kind of mentioned if you have her as your date at the gold saucer, but she can tell that the Cloud she knows isn’t really Cloud, and she wants to know the real him... but can’t.
@@tp6822 Cloud’s memory of his past is incredibly important in the game whether Aerith dies or not, as it’s the leverage Sephiroth has to use Cloud for his plans. Cloud’s confused remembrance of his past allows him to be tricked into believing he’s a Sephiroth clone, causing the black materia to be given to him and used to summon meteor.
To be able to actually fight back against Sephiroth without falling victim to manipulation, he had to know his past, and Tifa is the only character capable of giving him that truth.
While I totally agree with what you say, I have always seen Aerith as some kind of Guardian Angel for the party. But yes, Tifa was the person that Cloud needed the most in that moment, and Cloud's real motivation.
20:28 when I played this game for the first time last year, it's at that moment that my heart sank and made me see why many people hold this game close to them. It was one of those games that had managed to elicit emotion out of me on the first time. I'm looking forward to this scene in the remake
Have your tissues close by!
No wonder everytime I read Tifa's Dialouges I hear her remake voice saying the same word
Same lmao
Not me. I hear her abridged voice actor.
Idk why people dislike tifa. But without her, Cloud wouldn't be here.
Yeah, it's weird, I guess others assume that the only thing people care about Tifa is her character design.
Now, don't get me wrong, I love Tifa's design as much as the next guy but she is SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT, she is SUCH a big part of Cloud's character, if she hasn't there, Cloud wouldn't be who he is during the game.
What's lovely about her is that she cares about other people in such a sister or mother like way... And cares about Cloud more even after she knows what the hell happened. On top of that she's a hand-to-hand combatant with awesome skills in Remake. Seriously, that's awesome!!
@@PepeOPT1 if you mean her melons, I dont see a big deal of them. Who doesn't like boobs? Not Japan nor me(At least I am honest). Despite that, Cloud has no idea how lucky he is. A brawler, a supporter, hell, even good looking. I'm jealous even though is just a game.
@@Fugeta20 Ofc there's nothing wrong with her having a big chest, it's one of the reasons why I love her design. What I'm saying is that people who don't play the game and don't know Tifa's character and relationship with Cloud instantly assume that she's just a "anime girl with big tits" solely based on her design.
And yes, I also was EXTREMELY jealous when I was a kid AND EVEN MORE NOW WITH REMAKE.
because they are stupid and also blind, so they don't like Tifa ..
Tifa: I can fix him.
Child tifa - I'd like experience a hero saving me when I'm truly in trouble. so promise if you become a soldier youll come and save me if I'm ever in danger.
Adult - tifa watches as she discovered cloud came to her rescue and defeated sephiroth. While she was unconscious.
This is why i always increase the relationship score between cloud and tifa.
For anyone wondering, every single thing that the remeke project has done is for this moment
The best girl who helps you at your weakest.
When you realize Tifa became a fighter and mountain guide in hopes of one day finding her mother.
Holy shit man. Rebirth just dropped, Tifa got a kiss scene with Cloud, and now I have to wait 3-4 more years to see how they adapt this scene into Part 3. I have a feeling I’ll be bawling my fucking eyes out.
Tifa’s visit to the lifestream in Rebirth already had me emotional, this event in Part 3 is going to wreck me.
@@NoonDragoon I can already foresee a sequence of time passing as Tifa watches over Cloud, refusing to leave him even though the world is literally ending. Yeah imma cry dude, they are peak romance
@@anarrivingwingedhussar9692I’m sure they will mess it up like they did the ending
yeah i an goin to take a mental health day tomorrow cause I just finished rebirth and relived a childhood trauma
@@omensoffateNO don’t say that do not nope nope NOOOPE I have hope
Ff7 was so ahead of its time
Literally yes I say this all the time. the story alone carried the game even tho the graphics weren’t great the story itself is just amazing
Svnnh Bnna greatest game of all time
For FF7 Remake Part 3, I need them to keep this EXACTLY the way it is + a little more emotion & romantic gestures to portray how deep this is, but in general I need them to not try to ppl please and being back Aer bc it really IS a crucial part to the story of her being in the lifestream & becoming “Mommy” as we see in AC. She is the one who brings the holy water to save the world and ppl from the geostigma and ultimately helps the team as with her Cetra powers. It plays a crucial role in Cloud’s concious & him feeling guilty for all the friends he “couldn’t protect” & beating up himself for it too. I hope they don’t rush it too much, because this clip alone is already about 30 minutes to the game. Tifa will def probably be the playable character in this scene tho!
You asked to keep this exactly as it is but then also ask to add more romantic gesture, you contradict yourself in one single breath.
Also this scene is about Cloud accepting himself, this is not a "romantic" cloti moment, this scene is misinterpreted so many times by cloti it lost it true meaning.
Its always been cloti, the whole reason cloud joines shinra was to impress tifa. In crisis core we learned that zacks memories were mixed with clouds, hence why cloud thought he was in soldier.
I guess people gonna wait 3 more years to re-visit this moment. 😅
At least. It'll be the end of the remake trilogy and it'll be nuts
It’s worth it. The team COOKED with Rebirth. Another 2-3 years isn’t too bad. Plus, most of the world is already built. Only the northern continent is missing, so it shouldn’t take them terribly long. I’m willing to bet we get a teaser no later than early next year
The plot of this game is soooooo deep.
Saunitries it left me speechless. It almost caused me an existential crisis
The fact that they didn’t see each other in years & couldn’t reunite properly because both of them are going through trauma from their childhood and teenage years and even as adults they both have their own issues and people are expecting them to just live in a bubble pink world like yes they both have feelings for each other & that doesn’t mean they’re going to get together asap and that’s why it makes me insane when people don’t get it
the Angst of loving eo for years & not being able to give in that’s a tragic love story all this time we wasted and we could’ve been together 😭😭😭 ugh can’t wait for their reunion in part 3
Tifa saved Cloud’s life here. The least he could do is marry her 😂👍
Dreamy 😂
They did more than marry. When I say they did more I say they did WAY more thing under the highwind then marry eachother
...Isn't that what happens in that Advent Children movie?
@@Trevthehedgehog7 is it? I don't remember...
I agree
You see? this is why Tifa Lockhart is the canon for Cloud's couple. She came looking for him and stayed with him even though his mind was shattered and fragmented with false memories of him, Sephirot and Zack...she basically had a spiritual journey to fix him.
To me that's love, you only go the extra mile for somebody who you really love and if that isn't love then I don't know what is...
Besides in the night before the final battle those two have intercourse.
Lol only if the affection is high..
@@lunarhail3559 yeah I'm aware, but by that time Aerith is dead already so.
Agree...
Cloti 4ever..
The first and the last in his heart is only Tifa 💏 💖
Yeah I agree on all that and I'm definitely seeing that in new remake mode now.
Wait, they have intercourse for real?
THIS sequence is about to become the magnum opus of the ff7 remake saga. Came here to remind myself what to look forward to. The most pivotal and important scene of the entire game ❤
I can hear Britt Baron's when they make this scene. It's going to be beautiful and heartbreaking at the same time.
But the entire scene has already been spoiled all throughout the FF7 remakes already. Its been spoiled that Cloud was never really in SOLDIER and that he has an identity crisis.
how does anyone see this and go "yeah clerith is canon"
Didnt make it past the first disc maybe 😂
@@MrInuhanyou123 definitely not lol
They just don't want to progress the game story 😂
Seriously
9:12
Anyone notice… the starry white line in the background? It has a eerie resemblance to (SPOILERS)
The tear in the sky at the end of Rebirth?
Holon you might be onto something
Oh shit, well spotted
HOLY
Wait that shit is actually lifestream all along
Dont look up!
I can't wait to see this scene in HD. Since I finished the FFVII remake I'm looking forward to another remake of this. I really really like how tifa and cloud are inloved with each other
6:52 Cloud: "I think I left the gas on at home."
Cloud's iconic dead fish eyes
"People have so many tings pent up inside themselves... So many things they can never forget. Strange isn't it?" - This line always stuck with me.
I hope they won't get rid of that in the remake after what we saw in the ending.
They foreshadowed it at the Corel reactor, so I think they're doing it.
@@MMuraseofSandvich Hi there haha. I played rebirth too and I don't have doubt anymore. They dared to show us very creepy stuff in rebirth. So Im confident they will not shy away Cloud trauma.
@@genevievelaplace7301I would argue Cloud is in an even WORSE state of affairs after Rebirth than he was in the OG. Not just because of him suppressing his memories, but also him refusing to accept Aerith is gone. I’m willing to bet they will add a new section to the life stream sequence that deals with the events of the Forgotten Capital. And they will show us everything we saw in the OG and Advent Children that we didn’t get to see in Rebirth: Laying her body to rest, and the party mourning her loss
@@dr.edwardrichtofen365 I sense that to. Lets hope the dev don't forget that.
Remake part 1 and 2 are where Aerith dominates, PART 3 IS GOING TO BE TIFA'S. Cloud's lowest and Tifa's care on 4k!
i saw Remake is balanced between two girls . Rebirth , of course mainly focus on Aerith cuz this part is a goodbye to her , part 3 will be Tifa's
Clerith fans can rejoice for 1st and 2nd. Part 3 is going to be all about Tifa❤
33:00-33:10 I can already picture this in my head in the remake series. Tifa begins sobbing with joy that Cloud has finally returned and embraces him 🥹