Part of the problem with both the Rabid Jotaz and Oggdo Bogdo is that the arenas are small so it's hard to get away from some of their more powerful attacks. Trilla wasn't trying to keep her composure she was force gripped by Vader.
I know this is an older video, but I just want to say that the 'boss' battle with Vader skyrocketed this game up to one of my favorite Star Wars games. Not exactly a lot of competition out there, but I absolutely loved it. And I agree that I'm really glad you didn't actually fight him. It was so awesome watching him effortlessly do all these things you couldn't dream of as you frantically make your escape in the hopes that MAYBE you won't die.
My one disagreement is that the destruction of the holocron doesn’t ruin the game, in fact it makes it better “from a certain point of view”. It shows that Cal has grown from being a scared padawan wanting to hide from the Empire to a wise Jedi knight. From a story telling stand point it’s great, but if you focus on the Macguffin then it could be bad.
Yeah there's no way the 9th Sister is dead, hell not even the Cal thinks she's dead when you go into her data entry it's pretty clear that her death is questionable at best.
Hopefully that's not the story of fallen order 2. Would be cool to see her join cal or something like that since she did turn to the light before being "killed" by Vader. But I feel like she ran her course story wise. Would just feel repetitive and old.
my biggest issue with Trilla is that damn shockwave. She flashes red like it's an a move you need to dodge but it's a jump move. Which no other shockwave move has the character flash red. Not to mention it looks similar to a different unblockable which leads to a huge visual mix up for me.
The worst of the worst for me personally was the Albino Wyyyschokk just for that jumpscare entrance. For arachnophobe shit like that keeps you from ever replaying the game. It was also hard, and having my eyes half closed didnt help.
I love your content but you made a mistake with the Tarron Malocos fight. He is able to be affected by force abilities you just have to wait for him to charge at you. This does tons of damage to his guard if you time It right.
You....YOU CAN USE FORCE SLOW ON THE SITH BOSSES?! I just assumed it wouldn't work! I mean, fuck I beat the game without using it on them. But it would have saved me time.
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - My Ranking of Every Boss from Worst to Best: 9)Planetary “Bosses” 8)Security Droid 7)Bounty Hunter Ambushes 6)AT-ST 5)Gorgara 4)Ninth Sister 3)Taron Malicos 2)Second Sister/Trilla Suduri 1)Darth Vader
I loved your Arkham rankings and content. I also received Jedi Fallen Order as a Christmas present in December 2019. I also remember beating Oggdo Bogdo on my first playthrough after 1 death. Not trying to boast about because it still sucks balls to do but I’m confused as to how I got it then. Vader was fun to run from at the end as he’s one of my favorite villains, the Second Sister or Trilla Saduri's fight in Fortress Inquisitorius was really enjoyable, Gorgara was a blast, Taron Malicos was challenging and fun as well, and the Ninth Sister was a beast. And what is it with this game and SPIDER enemies?!
If you utilise the roll and force slow it makes it easy first play through took me 2 days of on off dieing and stopping because the load time after death on ps4 is so long
You guys should try the Inquisitor Cal fight in meditation training and see where he places. He's easily the hardest boss in the game (not counting the invincible Darth Vader and Jaro Tapal)
I would be ecstatic if the sequel to this game has Vader as a recurring boss that randomly shows up and you have to escape from. Like the monster in the second prince of Persia game.
You guys seems to be leaving out force push for some reason? When you unlock force push, upgrade to big push immiediately so that you can push ATST's grenades and rocket back at him and makes it a lot easier. Also push bounty hunters against walls to remove his jetpack. After you upgrade it to bigger push, you can use it on every single enemy except Vader and Malicos. But yeah I agree with most of the things on this list. Fking Jotaz made me ragequitted so may times
I place Vader in the same category as the Balrog from LoTR. With simple but effective "personalities", they're really hard to mess up unless you're actually trying.
Vader was done great in this game you think you're getting pretty strong then Vader shows up and shows you how weak you are he totally dominates you and Cere and isn't even trying i love that games advice for 'fighting' Vader is to run away as fast as possible
Jack here, I’ve never actually played Jedi Academy but it’s got a 10/10 online so I might as well, but generally I’m just kinda hesitant on older games cus like 90% of em get carried by nostalgia.
How dare you say oggdo bogdo is bad. He is the most important character in the game. Hell maybe even in star wars. Oggdo bogdo is up there with fn-3189 and glub shitto
@@Pidcaso Yeah it really is pretty great. We're gonna cover some Zelda games eventually (starting with botw) as well as some rpg's down the road so stay tuned if thats your thing-Alex
@@Cytonox yeah man I’d be more than happy to drop a sub and stick around! If the Lego Starwars is your cuppa tea aswell I’ve just finished the first 6 episodes on my channel 🤍
This list would have been a whole lot different if they had played this on the hardest difficulty On the hardest difficulty trillia is dash move during the final fight will Oneshot you regardless of how much health you have and she moves much quicker and you have less time to realize what she is doing And talon malicos is a nightmare on the Jedi grandmaster Especially if you don't have every upgrade like I did the first time I played the game *I played it the very first time on Jedi grandmaster and have played it on that difficulty every other time* And while he isn't a main game boss and is in the challenge mode Inquisitor Cal is a nightmare to fight He cheats And uses force slow on you QwQ
@@Cytonox he becomes slightly easier if you have every force power unlocked and if you effectively use the split saber attacks *which I forgot about the first time playing as I didn't like how they wasted force powers* if you want the hardest boss fight I'd say try to fight inquisitor cal on Jedi grandmaster You can fight him by going to a meditation spot and going into challenge mode going to the arena and spawning him in to duel That man cheats
The Fortress fight against Trilla was basically her acknowledging you as a serious threat, and pulling out all the stops to actually kill you. You made it to the Empire's turf, cutting through the heart of the Inquisitors' training program. She's already failed to thwart you twice by toying with you, now she has to go all out to cover her ass. That being said, she was super underwhelming as a final boss and crowning Ninth as the best actual boss is based. I don't even follow lore much, her personality and the fact she was a one-on-one, Saber and Force fight with no BS tricks or interlopers was enough to make her fight stand out as my favorite.
Isn’t there another inquisitor in the comics that was on dathomir. I know the two other inquisitors who became lovers were killed so I don’t know how the timeline would work with that. I do wish there were a few more but the Ninth sister was fun to see especially after the Mon Cala arc of the Darth Vader comics
to be fair it’s what you’d been working towards since you first met Cere and when you actually get it you break it (implying the next game will be a similar chase from Vader/Inquisitors) so I’d say it muddles the story a bit - Jack
My only problem with the atst is the Grenada spam if you get close now I get it that the original has it and I don’t mind them if they didnt make so that once you kill one the gernade doesn’t kill you afterwards it’s just so annoying still a good boss tho
I know it probably wouldn't work with the story and I only think this because I just stumbled across the ending scene. But I still think it would've been nice for the High Inquisitor to have been the female character that you could've chosen to play at the start of the game and having them both be apprentices. One of which was left behind and presumed dead to be indoctrinated, the other to escape. Sounds kinda cool.
I kind of like that Trilla doesn’t negate your force powers in the same way as Malicos. He’s far more experienced than her, and she’s more aggressive and arrogant, leaving her open to manipulation using the force in a way a former Jedi master wouldn’t. Plus, it would be a little lame imo that the final boss doesn’t let you use all the powers you have at your disposal.
I did beat nearly every boss without using force slow at all on my first and only playthrough (hard) didn't know it was so important for most of the playerbase. Cute.
The rabid jotaz is easy af. Just hit him 3 times parry all his attacks, then dodge when he does an unblockable. Either way this game is super easy on GM
I really feel like I'm missing something with Fallen Order, but from start to finish I just didn't find the game fun or very engaging, I kept playing waiting to reach that point where I would like it and it never came :p though the Vader chase was probably the best moment for me, I felt like the game was finally picking up and then it ended XD.
I really don't understand why people find oggdo doggdo hard, not tryna say I'm good, but he really isn't very hard. You just gotta time your attacks and rolls good and you'll beat him pretty quickly. I beat it after dying once
Our individual rankings: (Don't read before watching)
Alex's Rankings:
16. Rabid Jotaz
15. Oggdo Bogdo
14. Security Droid
13. Albino Wyyyschokk
12. Nydak Alpha
11. AT-ST
10. Haxion Brood Bounty Droid
9. Second Sister (Tutorial)
8. Haxion Brood Commando
7. Haxion Brood Bounty Hunter
6. Second Sister (Zeffo and Bogano)
5. Trilla Suduri
4. Gorgara
3. Taron Malicos
2. Darth Vader
1. Ninth Sister
Jack's Rankings:
16. Rabid Jotaz
15. Security Droid
14. Oggdo Bogdo
13. Albino Wyyyschokk
12. AT-ST
11. Nydak Alpha
10. Haxion Brood Bounty Droid
9. Haxion Brood Bounty Hunter
8. Haxion Brood Commando
7. Second Sister (Tutorial)
6. Second Sister (Zeffo and Bogano)
5. Gorgara
4. Taron Malicos
3. Trilla Suduri
2. Ninth Sister
1. Darth Vader
Who do you agree with more?
I agree with Alex a lot more.
@@TheSunStudio1 Right on man glad we're on the same page-Alex
I agree with Jack for only the reason of Darth Vader being number one I really loved that fight
@@finthechat6593 jack here, damn straight Alex is off his nuts!!!
Gotta agree with Jack here!
Part of the problem with both the Rabid Jotaz and Oggdo Bogdo is that the arenas are small so it's hard to get away from some of their more powerful attacks. Trilla wasn't trying to keep her composure she was force gripped by Vader.
I know this is an older video, but I just want to say that the 'boss' battle with Vader skyrocketed this game up to one of my favorite Star Wars games. Not exactly a lot of competition out there, but I absolutely loved it. And I agree that I'm really glad you didn't actually fight him. It was so awesome watching him effortlessly do all these things you couldn't dream of as you frantically make your escape in the hopes that MAYBE you won't die.
My one disagreement is that the destruction of the holocron doesn’t ruin the game, in fact it makes it better “from a certain point of view”. It shows that Cal has grown from being a scared padawan wanting to hide from the Empire to a wise Jedi knight. From a story telling stand point it’s great, but if you focus on the Macguffin then it could be bad.
yeah, just kinda ruins a potential route for the sequel mainly
@@Cytonox, but it keeps the children safe from being found by the enemies, don't it? Unless canon has them be found anyway..
Yeah there's no way the 9th Sister is dead, hell not even the Cal thinks she's dead when you go into her data entry it's pretty clear that her death is questionable at best.
Hopefully that's not the story of fallen order 2. Would be cool to see her join cal or something like that since she did turn to the light before being "killed" by Vader. But I feel like she ran her course story wise. Would just feel repetitive and old.
@@jake-lz9ol your thinking of the 2nd sister, the 9th Sister is the giant inquisitor you fight on the wookie homeworld.
@@anthonyrodriguez3495 oh shit my bad lmao I always get them mixed up. Yeah she definitely not dead.
She’s alive in Jedi Survivor
@@dangerman1013 ahem spoilers :)
When Vader pops through the door after we ran from him I almost screamed in fear.
my biggest issue with Trilla is that damn shockwave. She flashes red like it's an a move you need to dodge but it's a jump move. Which no other shockwave move has the character flash red. Not to mention it looks similar to a different unblockable which leads to a huge visual mix up for me.
0:31 the first time a saw this I was like IS THAT THANOS!?!?!
The worst of the worst for me personally was the Albino Wyyyschokk just for that jumpscare entrance. For arachnophobe shit like that keeps you from ever replaying the game. It was also hard, and having my eyes half closed didnt help.
I am a arachnophobe i screamed and cried when i got jumpscare
Your content is great! I binged watched it last night!
Rhodey? Is that you?
Thanks Don Cheadle!
I love your content but you made a mistake with the Tarron Malocos fight. He is able to be affected by force abilities you just have to wait for him to charge at you. This does tons of damage to his guard if you time It right.
I’ll give this a try if I ever play it on Jedi Grand Master, sounds nifty
-Alex
You....YOU CAN USE FORCE SLOW ON THE SITH BOSSES?! I just assumed it wouldn't work! I mean, fuck I beat the game without using it on them. But it would have saved me time.
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - My Ranking of Every Boss from Worst to Best:
9)Planetary “Bosses”
8)Security Droid
7)Bounty Hunter Ambushes
6)AT-ST
5)Gorgara
4)Ninth Sister
3)Taron Malicos
2)Second Sister/Trilla Suduri
1)Darth Vader
great list brotha
thanks brotha
18:32 …That had not aged all that well
I loved your Arkham rankings and content. I also received Jedi Fallen Order as a Christmas present in December 2019. I also remember beating Oggdo Bogdo on my first playthrough after 1 death. Not trying to boast about because it still sucks balls to do but I’m confused as to how I got it then. Vader was fun to run from at the end as he’s one of my favorite villains, the Second Sister or Trilla Saduri's fight in Fortress Inquisitorius was really enjoyable, Gorgara was a blast, Taron Malicos was challenging and fun as well, and the Ninth Sister was a beast. And what is it with this game and SPIDER enemies?!
If you utilise the roll and force slow it makes it easy first play through took me 2 days of on off dieing and stopping because the load time after death on ps4 is so long
14:22 I was actually under the impression that this was secretly Eno Cordova.
You guys should try the Inquisitor Cal fight in meditation training and see where he places. He's easily the hardest boss in the game (not counting the invincible Darth Vader and Jaro Tapal)
I was just as scared as Trilla when Darth Vader appeared because I had 0 health when i beat her.
And that fight was total BS!
I would be ecstatic if the sequel to this game has Vader as a recurring boss that randomly shows up and you have to escape from. Like the monster in the second prince of Persia game.
I thought Taron was the coolest lightsaber fight in a game, lot better than the big sister.
You guys seems to be leaving out force push for some reason? When you unlock force push, upgrade to big push immiediately so that you can push ATST's grenades and rocket back at him and makes it a lot easier. Also push bounty hunters against walls to remove his jetpack. After you upgrade it to bigger push, you can use it on every single enemy except Vader and Malicos. But yeah I agree with most of the things on this list. Fking Jotaz made me ragequitted so may times
everyone calm down, new cytonox video is up
My top 3 bosses including the Vader sequence
1: Vader
2: 9th sister
3: 2nd sister (final fight) or AT-ST depending on my mood that morning
I never knew you could hit the atst with the lightsaber. I always pushed the grenades and rockets back
I place Vader in the same category as the Balrog from LoTR. With simple but effective "personalities", they're really hard to mess up unless you're actually trying.
Vader was done great in this game you think you're getting pretty strong then Vader shows up and shows you how weak you are he totally dominates you and Cere and isn't even trying i love that games advice for 'fighting' Vader is to run away as fast as possible
Jedi fallen order combat gets brutally mogged by the Jedi knight series, nothing will beat that in terms of lightsaber combat.
Jack here, I’ve never actually played Jedi Academy but it’s got a 10/10 online so I might as well, but generally I’m just kinda hesitant on older games cus like 90% of em get carried by nostalgia.
@@Cytonox same
Strong disagree
@@lukeman4264 you don’t think slow downs when you beat a lightsaber user are cool?
@@noobermensch5699 not really :/
An actually good recommendation from UA-cam? Keep it up broski
Reskins of enemies do add something to the environmental storytelling, namely, the illusion of ecosystem and food chain.
How dare you say oggdo bogdo is bad. He is the most important character in the game. Hell maybe even in star wars. Oggdo bogdo is up there with fn-3189 and glub shitto
Amazing just like always
What game will you being next?
If you don’t know will it be alright if you do the assassins creed games because I am playing through ac odyssey right now.
Know I'm late to this video but you can actually parry the at-st grenades and missiles by using force push.
Loving the content bro!
This game is amazing! Like a RPG/ Zelda
@@Pidcaso Yeah it really is pretty great. We're gonna cover some Zelda games eventually (starting with botw) as well as some rpg's down the road so stay tuned if thats your thing-Alex
@@Cytonox yeah man I’d be more than happy to drop a sub and stick around! If the Lego Starwars is your cuppa tea aswell I’ve just finished the first 6 episodes on my channel 🤍
The only why reason Vader and Cal didn’t win is because…
Vader is invincible, and Cal has plot armor!
Now I can’t stop imagining Jabba the Hutt as a force user
Lol I fought Oggdo Boggdo until I beat him on Bogano. Was a little worried for the rest of the game at first haha.
now we just need a star wars game were you run away from general grievous
You think WE the PLAYER can out run him?!
This list would have been a whole lot different if they had played this on the hardest difficulty
On the hardest difficulty trillia is dash move during the final fight will Oneshot you regardless of how much health you have and she moves much quicker and you have less time to realize what she is doing
And talon malicos is a nightmare on the Jedi grandmaster
Especially if you don't have every upgrade like I did the first time I played the game *I played it the very first time on Jedi grandmaster and have played it on that difficulty every other time*
And while he isn't a main game boss and is in the challenge mode
Inquisitor Cal is a nightmare to fight
He cheats
And uses force slow on you QwQ
I’ve heard Malicos is the hardest boss on Grandmaster, someday I’ll probably try it but not for a while
-Alex
@@Cytonox he becomes slightly easier if you have every force power unlocked and if you effectively use the split saber attacks *which I forgot about the first time playing as I didn't like how they wasted force powers* if you want the hardest boss fight I'd say try to fight inquisitor cal on Jedi grandmaster
You can fight him by going to a meditation spot and going into challenge mode going to the arena and spawning him in to duel
That man cheats
@@Cytonox best ways to hit him is to wait till he has done a certain attack where you can dodge it then hit him
@@gabrielchastain6091 I beat him once and I never fought him again. Used the force pull to off-balance him.
@baki484 yeah i know, he is a nightmare to fight
Look at this big baller, receiving Christmas gifts and stuff
The Fortress fight against Trilla was basically her acknowledging you as a serious threat, and pulling out all the stops to actually kill you. You made it to the Empire's turf, cutting through the heart of the Inquisitors' training program. She's already failed to thwart you twice by toying with you, now she has to go all out to cover her ass.
That being said, she was super underwhelming as a final boss and crowning Ninth as the best actual boss is based. I don't even follow lore much, her personality and the fact she was a one-on-one, Saber and Force fight with no BS tricks or interlopers was enough to make her fight stand out as my favorite.
The darth vader fight was so good because you don’t fight him, and that’s why I love it, my first instinct when I played it was oh fuck, run
Isn’t there another inquisitor in the comics that was on dathomir. I know the two other inquisitors who became lovers were killed so I don’t know how the timeline would work with that. I do wish there were a few more but the Ninth sister was fun to see especially after the Mon Cala arc of the Darth Vader comics
If you really believe Cal destroying the holocron ruins the gane then you need to rewatch and pay attention
to be fair it’s what you’d been working towards since you first met Cere and when you actually get it you break it (implying the next game will be a similar chase from Vader/Inquisitors) so I’d say it muddles the story a bit - Jack
@@Cytonox I disagree cause the vision really helps with the ending of the story
My only problem with the atst is the Grenada spam if you get close now I get it that the original has it and I don’t mind them if they didnt make so that once you kill one the gernade doesn’t kill you afterwards it’s just so annoying still a good boss tho
*20:48* Excuse me... Austin from Game Theorists made a whole ass video about analyzing the strength of Darth Vader from this scene alone.
oggdo nowadays is unable to even hit me heh... parry, two hits rince and repeat until he dies
I know it probably wouldn't work with the story and I only think this because I just stumbled across the ending scene. But I still think it would've been nice for the High Inquisitor to have been the female character that you could've chosen to play at the start of the game and having them both be apprentices. One of which was left behind and presumed dead to be indoctrinated, the other to escape. Sounds kinda cool.
Inquisitor Cal is harder than all of them! You forgot him!
Did anyone else play through the entire game without knowing you could get more stims? Things were kinda rough
You didnt think much of the old dude in a black hood hanging out on dathomir?
Ninth sister's design is goofy as fuck
18:26 that did not age well
I kind of like that Trilla doesn’t negate your force powers in the same way as Malicos. He’s far more experienced than her, and she’s more aggressive and arrogant, leaving her open to manipulation using the force in a way a former Jedi master wouldn’t. Plus, it would be a little lame imo that the final boss doesn’t let you use all the powers you have at your disposal.
Yeah, that’s a good point. I think a good solution would be giving her more health to balance her increased vulnerability
-Alex
canonically it checks out as you said Inquisitors were no stronger than above average Jedi Knights, totally agree with this take - jack
If Vader is in there, there should be Jaro Tapal too
You included Vader but not Jaro Tapal?
I did beat nearly every boss without using force slow at all on my first and only playthrough (hard) didn't know it was so important for most of the playerbase. Cute.
I honestly always forgot to use it combat lol
18:26 Oooo that did NOT age well lmao
The rabid jotaz is easy af. Just hit him 3 times parry all his attacks, then dodge when he does an unblockable. Either way this game is super easy on GM
When you say that seventh and fifth inquisitors are good characters you lost me.
Great fucking content
I really hope the next game has no animal bosses at all
They just suck
Stick with saber and imperial fights
agreed - jack
I really feel like I'm missing something with Fallen Order, but from start to finish I just didn't find the game fun or very engaging, I kept playing waiting to reach that point where I would like it and it never came :p though the Vader chase was probably the best moment for me, I felt like the game was finally picking up and then it ended XD.
WHAT THE HELL
I really don't understand why people find oggdo doggdo hard, not tryna say I'm good, but he really isn't very hard. You just gotta time your attacks and rolls good and you'll beat him pretty quickly. I beat it after dying once
Most of these bosses suck they weren't fun