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@PapaYam I have a question , after the outbreak of corona I will continue with my A2 license and im looking to buy a used cbr250rr mc22 (they're pretty cheap where I live) should I get one or get a cruiser (shadow 750, Yamaha dragster , etc) I think that the CBR will be a bit too small for me since I am 6'2 and weight about 85-90 kilos
Here's a point of view. Cars make more "sense" than motorcycles. When you choose to ride, you sort of say...hey! Life is not always about making sense. Sure, there are horses for courses, but most people will have one motorcycle, well, at least one at a time. So I'd always say go with what you feel, it doesn't need to make sense, most things in life, much like motorcycles seldom do. By the way, this is a great channel, and I absolutely love it!
This is something shared with jeeps and project cars. Your choosing it for the different experience. Doesn’t have to be “optimal.” It’s just fun Also the community. That’s where the similarities end though
I have to disagree with your idea that cars make more sense. It depends on context. In a congested city, motorcycles are arguably better. In third world countries where people don't have money, motorcycles are much cheaper to own, maintenance is cheap and gas mileage is much better. In some cases, people don't have good parking where they commute and a motorcycle makes sense there. For me, a motorcycle absolutely makes sense
I own a 2019 CBR 600rr and my friend has a Yamaha MT-09, we traded bikes for a bit and holy shit the comfort on the MT was astounding and the instant torque at almost any RPM blew my mind. I don’t regret getting my CBR at all but for higher speeds the MT is a chore to drive I felt like I was getting pushed backwards out of the seat when going 100+ or high wind blasts. Both has pros and cons but getting a naked does make more sense for daily commuting and joyrides than supersports
Got my first bike literally 2 weeks before this corona bullshit started. 2018 Yamaha MT09. Been using all this free time to tear up some killer backroads. I’m in love!!!
Best way to social distance brother. Me: Classic 1984 VF700F Interceptor in primo shape. Had one in 750 in the late 80's. Sold it to move to suburbia. Recently found this one and it is re-born. Ride healthy!!!
@@doseingit yea it was an option for me too but I need something with a rugged sound. The MT07 somehow fits in the category. It sounds almost like a Harley
i was searching over the whole internet yesterday about this very topic and today papa yam dropped this. Thank u papa yam for blessing us with your content
A sport bike will always reign supreme. Faster, better brakes, better areo and awesome. Naked bikes are fun but we all know what is actually better. Just look at the price tag.
@@AnonymousPersonAP i have a z900 too, my first naked. Its fun, its a great motorcycle! Im happy with it. But im thinking about going to an supersport too.
I ride a 2002 R1, and I personally like the leaning forward riding position, even around town. On my old FZR600 I actually dropped the bars down under the top yoke (triple tree), rather than above as standard. I find I rest very little weight on my wrists, as I hold on to the tank with my legs. And as soon as you get any speed up, you can just lean on the wind. What I'd really like to see is a return to 1970's race style fairings, with their "big bubble" type screens. I used to have a TZ fairing on my 350LC, and when you got tucked in behind it, you were almost completely out of the airflow. But at the end of the day neither style is "better", it's just about what suits you, and your personal preferences.
Very interesting ! I used to own a mt03, I now own that same vfr 800, and you are right : I bought it because I spent 3 years fantasizing like crazy about this bike. Being 6'6 it is too cramped for my knees, not that confortable for highway but... Hell, I love it. I learned to ride it to the limit of what's sensible on the road, I feel connected to it, I smile every time I see it in my garage or parked outside. I do love the looks, love riding it, and even though there were way more "suitable" choices I don't regret getting it at all. I think my next bike will be a ktm 1290 super adv S, because I want to give a try to something ment for my size, see if sensible but still fun is what I need in my life. Get the bike you want, spend all your money, it is worth it !!
I own a 1999 VFR and test rode a Street Triple recently, and above 70mph, the 20 year old Honda it’s way way better, comfort wise; even with the lower bars! In the rain, if you tuck in a little, it’s amazing how you don’t get wet, like you do on a naked or even on a ADV like a VStrom. I speak from experience, having owned a 600 Bandit and a 650 VStrom.
I had a 6th gen VFR for many years, and now ride a naked bike. The wind isn’t too much of an issue for me (I do have a flyscreen on it which takes some of the wind blast off my chest at 70+ mph), but you’re absolutely right about rain. On the VFR in a very light rain I could tuck in and down and only my knees and shoulders and maybe elbows would get wet. There is zero weather protection on a naked bike. Any rain at all and I get soaked. That being said, I love how much easier it is to work on my new bike. No more carefully removing fairings to do oil changes, etc. Much easier to move around the garage or driveway, too. I loved my VFR, but I don’t miss it too much.
What I would love to see is a comparison between the various bikes that have the same engine but different styles ie all the various Kawasaki's that have the 650 twin engine, Ninja, Vulcan S, Versys etc
M Motorcycles Definitely, I ride bikes to get that fizz, and riding anything other than at least a super sport feels like you may as well be in a car. I prefer a 600 for street, perfect blend of power and weight, and you can rev it out in lower gears without doing 180mph. I also have a long wingspan so that helps with comfort
I own a 2005 Ninja 636, winch I absolutely love. However I also very much enjoy bikes with more low end torque, my boss has a BMW K1200RS which is a very heavy behemoth sport touring bike but I gotta say the way that thing delivers power down low is quite a breath of fresh air coming off a 600 sport bike, even my 636 which tends to have a bit more low end power than other 600s. But when it comes what gives me the "fizz" as James May would say lol nothing compares to a sportbike at 12,000RPM, the sound and rush of a screaming inline 4 at that RPM is nothing short of a religious experience.
@@drewb242 I have the exact same bike and it's a fucking beast. That bike got stolen and disappeared for 2 years which led to them stripping everything performance related so the only thing left on it that screams aftermarket is the exhaust, there's nothing like the sound of a 636 banging the limiter down an empty interstate and hearing that Yoshi RS5 screaming the sound of its people. Even if it was stolen and all fucked up afterwards, I can't see me ever selling this bike, the 636 is fucking amazing, I just wish the BP was a little more aggressive
I've had my FZ 07 for over a year now and while I love the naked standard riding position 95% of the time, I can't help but feel the longing to have a more rear set foot position when tucked on the freeway doing over 100 mph (in Mexico). I feel like the middle participant of an Eiffel Tower, and it's about as comfortable as that sounds.
Sport touring. It's like being on a naked bike, and having a wind shield Or like being on a sport bike, and having cartilage between your vertebrae at the end of your ride.
I turned this video on because I’m looking for my first bike and I was convinced I needed a sport bike so that I had the coolest and fastest bike on the block. But I have completely changed my mind now and I’m so happy I’ve seen this video. Thank you so much to both of you!
I'm considering insurance costs when deciding. I have zero plans on doing anything crazy regardless so obviously the sport bike is underused by me but the look is so appealing 😂 I'm also curious what you ended up withh
I went from a 6th gen. VFR 800 I'd owned for 14 years to a naked BMW a year ago. At first at 60 mph I could feel the wind blast on my chest. It wasn't bothersome and I got used to it quickly. Then I could feel it at 65, then at 70. I installed a Dart Classic flyscreen this summer to cut some of the wind blast at freeway speeds (mostly for when I do trips and have to slab it a while). It's kind of noticeable at 75 but still not a problem. The flyscreen helps at that speed, but even without it the wind blast isn't terrible. Ease of maintenance is so much better with the naked bike. I loved my VFR but I do not miss pulling the left fairing to do a simple oil change, something I did 2-3 times per year most years. One other big difference is how much easier it is to move the naked bike around, and to make u-turns. A higher, tubular handlebar and greater turn-to-steering-lock makes the naked bike much more maneuverable both on and off the bike. I do miss the weather protection of my VFR, including wind protection in colder temps, and the naked bike is much more of a pain to clean, but overall I think I really prefer the naked.
I'm a huge proponent of the VFR800. I have own both 5th and 6th gen versions. It all depends on where you ride and how you ride. VFR's are too often overlooked.
Quick audio advice: slap on a high pass filter at 100hz on your vocal channels. There's a ton of rumble here in your new studio. It's fairly common but sensitive condenser mics tends to pick this up sometimes. It'll also confuse UA-cam into truncating the overall volume of your video even though at times this might be in the inaudible range (think 20hz).
I seriously love naked bikes. I might be a limited demographic that actually thinks they are better looking on average. Always had full fared bikes and recently went with a R1 over an MT09 and Ducati monster and the decision literally came down to I'm only 25 once but I'm fairly certain next purchase will be a naked.
@Michael Moretti I partially agree but that could be said for any type of bike whether it be cruiser, naked, or supersport. At the same time they each have models that are totally timeless (ala Ducati). I just personally think that the last 10 years or so has produced some absolutely gorgeous naked bikes. I'm an absolute sucker for an exposed trellis frame.
I mostly naked/ standard bike are better for me just because the sport bike back position hurt. But I feel like sport bikes are faster and my favorite rider use it to.
I prefer the seat position and styling of naked bikes. plus it gives no prejudice to the untrained eye, a naked is instantly "less powerful and safer" lol.
See, as a soon-to-be 2-wheeler, nothing will stop me from getting an R7. Perfect balance for what I’m looking to get as a 30 y/o noob. I’ve been waiting to get a super sport-type bike since I was 17, and goddamnit, I’m getting it! 😂
Sometimes the small screen just gets the wind off your chest, a slightly taller screen sends the wind strait into your head. And then a really tall screen you almost need to look through it and all the clean air is lost. I like a small screen just to break the wind. Can still tuck at points if you really need to.
13:15 was doing 140mp/h the other day when we had hard wind. I drive a Suzuki GSF1200S (Bandit1200S) and i was pushed to the side about a quarter meter... was really fun times
I am glad that this channel addresses many questions/issues faced by motorcycle riders. This is one example in this video. Which is very useful, thats why I like this video/channel. So thank you for that. And I will try to contribute by buying sponsored products to support.
i got a 2021 MT10 last year and i couldnt be happier, its plenty for the street after the flash which really helps the power delivery it is an absolute savage.
6:30 "did I break it?" Yes. Yes, you did. I am able to change the oil in my 2015 r3 without taking off my fairings. However, they really are a pain in the ass when you do have to take them off. The initial protection you can buy for your motorcycle is worth the extra money you'll spend regardless of whether or not you have fairings. I've screwed my r3 up a few times and I've had to replace and fix various necessary parts (crankcase, gaskets) on different occasions and the worst part everytime, aside from cost of course, is having to work around or remove the fairings. If you are doing work on a fully faired motorcycle expect plastic tabs to break, expect to have leftover hardware that you're not sure exactly where it came from and expect most of your time to do seemingly simple or straightforward jobs to be spent on removing and replacing your fairings. They're also expensive to replace if you break them. My r3 isn't worth buying new fairings for to be honest. Even a cheap set off of eBay. I've heard a few people say that if you buy a fully faired motorcycle to replace the OEM fairings with cheap fairings in case you mess it up. That way you will still have the original fairings in new condition for reselling or trade in purposes. I think the point about feeling like a sail is great to bring up. The wind can really alter your speed and ability to accelerate and handle, especially with a smaller displacement motorcycle. Being so light you definitely get pushed around and the turbulence really is very noticeable coming over a windscreen, as was mentioned in the video. I've ridden with some bad crosswinds and I've had to be leaned pretty far over just to keep going straight down the road. I've not had the opportunity to ride a naked bike, but if it eliminates that sail-like effect and lessens the irritation of having to do maintenance then it would be well worth it. I've considered as to whether or not I should get another sport style bike or a naked bike when I'm able to. As cool as sport bikes look, naked bikes definitely seem more practical. Overall cost and maintenance time of a naked compared to the same counterpart of a sport goes a long way. I'm definitely leaning more towards a naked bike in the future. The only question left is, "which one do I get?"
I'm just glad naked bikes have become more common because nobody asks why I "took the plastics off" my SV650 anymore. Used to happen all the time, I don't miss explaining what the SV is. I love ss bikes, I think they are amazing and I've ridden some really fun examples, but I have zero desire to own one myself. Maybe as a track bike, but for my daily rider I'll take a naked all day every day. I've had the SV for about 15 years and so far haven't found anything I like better that I am willing to pay for.
Absolutely agree. A slight cross wind is very noticeable for a fully faired sportbike, especially at higher speeds. At first, I thought I'd be immune to that but apparently no.
Let's not forget while fairings are a pain to remove and refit, they do help protect the bike in the way of preventing crud dirt water stones etc from hitting the engine and other parts thus keeping the bikes reliability a peg above a naked. Also help with aerodynamics which in turn helps keep a few quid in your wallet in the long run.
Since i lost a screw all the way down in the bottom part of my scooters fairings and spent HOURS completely disassembling it i lost all interest in sport bikes
i have owned a 2013 street triple 675 and a 2009 VFR800. The VFR is WAY more comfortable on the highway and being canadian you stay much warmer on cooler days. But the street triple was a rocket compared to the VFR, way more fun to throw around too
I genuinely think that the 2 of you over at Yammie Noob have forgotten the spirit of what it means to ride a motorcycle. Seriously, hear me out. What got me into motorcycling was not the 2 wheels or the better fuel mileage or even reconnecting with how I felt as a youngin' on a bicycle with the freedom it gives. What got me into motorcycling was how a motorcycle makes me FEEL... How I feel when riding a motorcycle, even if it isn't particularly fast, is what really draws me to ride in the first place. Every time I ride the steel horse I just get that little spring in my step and I just feel happier, and I love every minute of it even if the minute of it is hard and uncomfortable, if I wanted comfort i'd go get a comfortable cage and drive myself around in relative safety. No, despite the hard things about riding a motorcycle I still absolutely love the hobby even if I don't get to spend or participate as much as i'd like to. Now on to choice of bike. I have always loved the look of the super sports from the first moment I laid eyes on a green Kawasaki Ninja, I didn't know what model or capacity at the time (I was also a dumb teenager) but when I looked at it I saw the epitome of style, the absolutely sexy look of the spots bike is just something that I will never get over I think. Now I am older and much, *ahem*, wiser I have the ability to own my very own beast that is the very same bike that I saw all those years ago (well, newer and not green, but white) and ride it as often as I can, and that is to say, in style. When someone buys a Lamborghini or a Ferrari they don't do it because they want to drive in comfort around the city they live, they drive it because they love the car and for the STYLE! Owning a sports bike is hot, it's inconvenient, its mileage is no better than a small cage and it's relatively uncomfortable to ride... But... It's me... Riding it around just gives me the biggest smile around, I feel like just hopping on her gives me a grin from ear to ear. When i've had a shit day at work I walk down to the parking lot and see my bundle of joy just sitting there waiting for the next ride, I instantly feel happy, I instantly feel good, I instantly feel less shit about the crap I had to deal with just minutes prior. Now that's not to say I hate naked bikes, nor that I hate cruisers (although years ago I said i'd never get a cruiser, but they're growing on me) but I respect your choice to ride whatever you want to ride because we don't ride bikes because of the sheer convenience factor, we ride them because we love them, warts and all. If I had the money and the space, i'd own one of every type of bike for every occasion, but since I don't have the money or the space then i'll have to settle for the sports bike that I always wanted as a kid, that now i'm grown up I can afford that makes me feel special every time I get in the saddle, even if I don't use it to its full capacity, she is mine and I love her... Warts and all...
I enjoyed the video. The terrain and highways look a lot like Arkansas. I agree with all discussion points. I think the advantage of a fully faired bike is with extended speeds over 70 mph. A well designed fairing can stabilize the bike and protect you some from the elements. It depends on how comfortable you want to be on long hauls.
10:15 as a VFR owner myself, this is why you dont fuck up a perfectly good bike by adding a larger windscreen, had you not done that, the airflow over your helmet would be smooth as butter ;) The screen is there to alleviate pressure from your body/chest. Also you have to remove the left side lower faring for an oil change, that is it my man. Unless something changed from the 14 to the 16 i have, x doubt. Just gotta be a little finicky getting the filter in/out. Hardly "tear off your hair" levels of frustration involved in that.
The cold on a naked is a real thing. I've owned a naked and now own a VFR actually and the difference in temperature is huge. For example, on my naked I used to wear underpants, winter jacket and winter gloves during winter in Portugal. On my VFR I went through all winter without underpants, without the winter jacket and also winter gloves. The turbulance on the windscreen is bigger on the VFR though, it's very annoying...
@@mattingray5651 Isn't it normal to ride naked when on faired bikes? No, but the diference I feel with the VFR is that I can wear an all seasons jacket, aswell as normal gloves and jeans
That big orange fairing means conspicuous and visible to traffic. Probably got twice as much chance as being hit by a car on that triple which will just blend into the background.
I use my naked bike (Suzuki BKing) as a daily commuter. Get a nice set of helmet to reduce wind noise and you’re good to go. Great ergonomics and Busa engine. Best of both worlds!!!
As a Street triple rider, I can tell you naked bikes are the future of street riding. Superspots have always belonged on the track, and these days anyone looking for a road bike needs to try a naked bike.
@@Spirittism my dude just RIDE a naked, you'll be blown away. It's all the performance of a supersport, packed into a bike you can ride for hours on end without discomfort.
I've never understood all the complaints about the ergos of sport and supersports. I've ridden a Daytona 675 almost every day for 5 years. It's my commuter. I have never had these ergo complaints or aches. If your wrists are hurting/aching, wouldn't that mean you're not relaxing your arms like you're supposed to??? And BTW, I'm a 42 year old, 5'9, overweight guy. I'm not a spring chicken by any means and prone to aches and pains as it is!
Also, I've yet to roast my nuts sitting at a red light. I've been in over 100 degree weather every summer. Heat going into my helmet on the other hand, but then again, I lean back when I'm stopped, so problem solved.
@@TheBittner1 I think the problem is mate that people like to bitch and whine more these days....We've never had it so good and there's way too much choice on offer....jeez, some people complain of noisy tyres on thier bikes lol
Americans are so out of shape it's ridiculous. The poisoned air, water, and food has really taken its toll evidently. I'm 48 yrs old, and I'm in great shape, lighter than I was in college. My son, on the other hand, is like a grandpa. Everything is difficult for them. They are spoiled, out of shape, complainers. People who ride sport bikes are usually in good shape themselves. The bike reflects our body. If you're fat and out of shape like these guys in the video, then obviously a sport bike is not going to fit them. Get a couch on wheels if you are unfit and lazy.
I could commute on my GSX-R 600 no problem, it was only half hour each way. Now if I went cruising outside of the city with my friends or went on a trip outside of the that was more than 2 hours, it fucking sucked. After an hour and a half I’d start contemplating dropping a lit match in the gas tank and collect the insurance money.
Yep. I've commuted on a GSX-R600 for 100+ miles a day for years and it's great, which is why I still have it. I've had nakeds and they suck for going fast on freeways, but they are more comfortable for riding around town. It's all pretty basic common sense stuff.
Naked bikes are a call back to the designs of the 70s where the concept of a sport bike really came from. They are just cool. I love my RR and the looks of it, but I still love the look of my 74 CB as much.
Cosmetically speaking, a Naked is more...timeless. Take it from a guy with a 20-year-old Triumph. My 955 ST is an absolutely wonderful machine, but it's starting look...dated. Ergonomically, a ST or Naked is noticeably more comfy than a full-bore sport bike. I had to do a safety for a friend when he bought his RSV4-R Factory and coming from vintage UJMs/cruisers and my Sprint, just a ten minute road test HURT! I could do 300 miles a day on my bike,but 30 miles on his bike and I needed painkillers. Good video guys; thanks for keeping us educated and entertained!
Say what you will but I LOVE when a bike looks typical of it's time. I don't find bikes like the busa or ninja 250 beautiful, but I admire their aesthetic even more because of the fact they remind me of another era.
@@CheapskateMotorsports Oh don't get me wrong: I love how my Sprint looks! But you can much more easily tell the era a bike was made by the fairings it wears
Thankfully up here in Alberta the engine heat is a welcome thing. If I just commuted within the city and that was my stomping ground... a naked would be a better option. Just luckily I live on the outskirts and work is right there also. And if I take a left at the fork in the road I am immediately in the foothills of the Rockies. What a blessing. But you also can get huge amounts of wind, to the effect that we have digital highways signs telling you what the windspeed is at. Wind blast for hours on end is really tiring. So the best for me is the great zx14. This is I think one of the places that this bike is made for. Keep the rubber side down and enjoy the ride.
Good vid, here in England the weather is a big factor to consider , having a fairing is a big help with the rain and it rains a lot I mean a hell of a lot so a fairing makes sense. I however have just changed from a retro scrambler to a hyper naked. Sports bikes make god sense here as well due to the very narrow and very twisty roads here some are hundreds of years old. I am riding a Zontes ZT125U it may only have 15hp but I can ride it pretty much full throttle all the time and with the roads I can ride its great fun and all the roundabouts I can use all the rubber. Its more fun to ride slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. Great channel, keep it up.
There you go, unless you're heavily into track racing, the cross breezes actually make fairings on the sport bike is actually a negative! A"sail!" catching those cross breezes.
I commute on the Deutsche Autobahn and can't imagine a better bike for that job than a Honda VFR. I tried a naked and it was fine up to 130 km/h, above that it's just exhausting.
Exactly! I used to live in Germany 🇩🇪 as well. A naked bike is good for shorter commutes but would not be great on longer highway trips. That’s actually the reason why they have fairings on them. If the naked bike was the better option then Spite wouldn’t have purchased the Honda VFR. I see an application for both of these bikes. One for riding around the city and the other for longer trips.
I just picked up on Saturday a brand new '19 ZX6R, now I already have a Hayabusa for highway use but I was thinking that maybe I want a cruiser as well, something like a Boulevard M50 or Vulcan 650S but I must admit, a nice grey and orange MT-07 at the dealership has caught my eye and now you SOB's got me second guessing my new purchase. Well when all the C19 bs is done and better weather hits I just may have to take a naked out for a ride, I've never ridden one before and now I'm looking forward to it.
Commuting half an hour highway, then a bit of a shield is relaxing. And fairing also helps with avoiding some of the rain (and in the Netherlands it rains a lot). This is why half fairing is ideal, you can still access most, and don't have to take off everything. And a bit of fairing just looks better...
Yep I already liked naked bikes after I recently received a free 49cc moped it is my first “bike” and replacing the electrical wires and battery requires removed an unholy amount of plastic. But at least I’m into motorcycles now.
I commute on my bike about 40 minutes to work, I could do it just as well on the VFR. I have commuted on sportsbikes like a R1 as well as standards and cruisers. The one thing I can say about true clip on sportsbikes is low speed is tiring, also replacing the tires is way more often. Since on my off days I liked to have more grip to play. So softer tires wear quicker. I do like the mix of my new bike best, it's a FTR which is a twin, so the torque really makes low rpm, casual commute easy, yet it can get rowdy if I want it to.
I’m for which ever makes if faster and more comfortable! And In their comes the problem full sport bikes will wear you out quick riding them bent over and the other bakers lack the blistering high speeds the sport bikes can hit!
Hiya guys and well done, what you say makes alot of sense!! When I was younger it HAD to be a sports bike for me so R6 and then R1s, now I am er more mature I love the 1000 nakeds and I currently have a CB1000R and an MT10SP, wonderful bikes and those engines mmmmm.
hi guys love the vid of your cool bikes both are just works of mechanical art and also thanx for the indepth explanation and road demo of the differences. safe riding guys.
Sporty nakeds have all the umpf one might need on the Street . Gosh if I want I can let my SV 650 fly . and at those speeds in corners or straights you get a huge fine anyway . Sportbikes are literally just for going stupid fast in a straight line or stupid fast in some 3° corner where you can fly through with over 120 mph. For anything else nakeds are just the best. (My opinion)
Ugh , hate how yammi some how reads my mind and produces a video that is on the exact subject i was considering the next day. Never fails this is like 4th time.
Just bought a 2015 honda cb300f and I love it. Its not alot of power but its a great bike for me to start on! And plus naked is always better in any situation! 😃
I live in the UK, and the difference between naked and having a decent fairing/screen is massive when it's cold. On my naked bike I need heated stuff in winter. Faired bike and no need. I envy your warm-climate problems!
@@1truefreedomfighter It more depends on the bike, some are just known to run hotter in general. Example; i have a Triumph trident /naked. Plenty of heat coming at you, slightly on the toasty side. Then again, many factors going on here, summer? winter,what state do you live in? riding in the day? at night? I notice a 15degree temp difference when the sun goes down suddenly; ie you were geared perfectly then instantly not so much/ it can happen just like that. Have had both "crotch rockets" and naked's also cruizer's. At the end of the day, test ride many bikes and you still with have to deal with the weather, road conditions througing things in different directions. I prefer "naked's" like they mentioned in the vid, more comfortable riding position, but with almost the same performance as a sportbike(can hit the twisties hard)). Just try to get as many test rides as possible/and then even that is just a taste of what the bike has to offer. Refering to your question, yes it makes a difference on a sportbike the plastic fearing directs the heat directly at your legs, some dont mind it, others not so much. -Cheers
@@1truefreedomfighter It depends on the fairing, but yes it makes a difference. Sports bike= air on helmet, so still cold and need heated gear if less than 5°C. Tourer (eg FJR 1300) = little air on body. No need for heated gear beyond heated grips.
I used to live in Germany 🇩🇪 . A naked bike is good for shorter commutes but would not be great on longer highway trips. That’s actually the reason why they have fairings on them. If the naked bike was the better option then Spite wouldn’t have purchased the Honda VFR. I see an application for both of these bikes. One for riding around the city and the other for longer trips.
Ohh my dude this hits all the way home for me! I had a R6 then went to a WR450 motard because it was just so much more fun but those dirt bike seats aren’t the best under ass. I took out a demo mv agusta dragster a few years back and that was like the perfect package of speed, fun and comfort. Needless to say I saved my dollarydoos for a couple years and bought a brand new Dragster RR last year and have no regretted it yet!
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@PapaYam I have a question , after the outbreak of corona I will continue with my A2 license and im looking to buy a used cbr250rr mc22 (they're pretty cheap where I live) should I get one or get a cruiser (shadow 750, Yamaha dragster , etc) I think that the CBR will be a bit too small for me since I am 6'2 and weight about 85-90 kilos
Yammie Noob I watch your videos daily.... seems like you’ve forgotten us cruiser bros. Lately, I’m a chopper bro really
I wanna win.
BUSA FOR LIFE YAMMIE!!!!!!!!!
i got a cbr1000rr 2006 would like to do some mods where do i start with
We all know we should disregard both options and get a turbo Busa. Because turbo Busa is always the answer.
You are both strong and wise, and I am very proud of you
@@yammienoob Thank you Papa Yam. Love the videos, stay safe!
Twin turbo* Busa
Rather go with a Turbo B-king than Turbo Busa.
wTapL a turbo busa couldn’t be more of a waist of money ..
The ergonomics is part of the whole comparison between a naked and a super sport bike. So that already throws 50% of the comparison out the window.
Here's a point of view. Cars make more "sense" than motorcycles. When you choose to ride, you sort of say...hey! Life is not always about making sense. Sure, there are horses for courses, but most people will have one motorcycle, well, at least one at a time. So I'd always say go with what you feel, it doesn't need to make sense, most things in life, much like motorcycles seldom do. By the way, this is a great channel, and I absolutely love it!
I agree. Well said sir. And regardless of the bike of choice, we are all bikers.
Thanks, thats all i needed.
I'm getting a Busa for my first bike.
This is something shared with jeeps and project cars. Your choosing it for the different experience.
Doesn’t have to be “optimal.” It’s just fun
Also the community.
That’s where the similarities end though
Very wise words. Honestly.
I have to disagree with your idea that cars make more sense. It depends on context. In a congested city, motorcycles are arguably better. In third world countries where people don't have money, motorcycles are much cheaper to own, maintenance is cheap and gas mileage is much better. In some cases, people don't have good parking where they commute and a motorcycle makes sense there. For me, a motorcycle absolutely makes sense
I own a 2019 CBR 600rr and my friend has a Yamaha MT-09, we traded bikes for a bit and holy shit the comfort on the MT was astounding and the instant torque at almost any RPM blew my mind. I don’t regret getting my CBR at all but for higher speeds the MT is a chore to drive I felt like I was getting pushed backwards out of the seat when going 100+ or high wind blasts. Both has pros and cons but getting a naked does make more sense for daily commuting and joyrides than supersports
To add nothing makes you feel more apart of a bike than to tuck down on your super sport it’s a truely amazing feeling feeling apart of the bike
@@canyonforkash731 I have more fun in my street triple vs R6 but I definitely felt "one" with the R6
I really wanted this comment naked bikes are super fun to ride bikes
Got my first bike literally 2 weeks before this corona bullshit started. 2018 Yamaha MT09. Been using all this free time to tear up some killer backroads. I’m in love!!!
Ride safe bro!
Best way to social distance brother. Me: Classic 1984 VF700F Interceptor in primo shape. Had one in 750 in the late 80's. Sold it to move to suburbia. Recently found this one and it is re-born. Ride healthy!!!
@@chestypuller4591 wow you have a lot of years of riding on your rader! I'm just about to get the MT07 but 2016
Just got my first bike 2 weeks ago too. 2017 cbr600rr and love it. Dallas Texas
@@doseingit yea it was an option for me too but I need something with a rugged sound. The MT07 somehow fits in the category. It sounds almost like a Harley
i was searching over the whole internet yesterday about this very topic and today papa yam dropped this. Thank u papa yam for blessing us with your content
I would feel kind of ridiculous making daily commutes with something that's better suited for a track. I prefer the look of a naked bike, anyway.
A sport bike will always reign supreme. Faster, better brakes, better areo and awesome. Naked bikes are fun but we all know what is actually better. Just look at the price tag.
PS I ride a naked bike. (Kawasaki Z900) I will be trading it soon to go back to a 1000cc sport bike soon enough.
@@AnonymousPersonAP i have a z900 too, my first naked. Its fun, its a great motorcycle! Im happy with it. But im thinking about going to an supersport too.
Spikes makes a good addition to the channel.
two of the best bikes in their segment … VFR sounds incredible … VTEC love !!
and the triple … aaaaaaaaah the triple … GIMME !!
Ahh I see you are a man of culture as well
Yammie keeps falling for Triple's😅🖖
Fancy seeing you here tigerr
I ride a 2002 R1, and I personally like the leaning forward riding position, even around town. On my old FZR600 I actually dropped the bars down under the top yoke (triple tree), rather than above as standard. I find I rest very little weight on my wrists, as I hold on to the tank with my legs. And as soon as you get any speed up, you can just lean on the wind. What I'd really like to see is a return to 1970's race style fairings, with their "big bubble" type screens. I used to have a TZ fairing on my 350LC, and when you got tucked in behind it, you were almost completely out of the airflow. But at the end of the day neither style is "better", it's just about what suits you, and your personal preferences.
Very interesting ! I used to own a mt03, I now own that same vfr 800, and you are right : I bought it because I spent 3 years fantasizing like crazy about this bike. Being 6'6 it is too cramped for my knees, not that confortable for highway but... Hell, I love it. I learned to ride it to the limit of what's sensible on the road, I feel connected to it, I smile every time I see it in my garage or parked outside. I do love the looks, love riding it, and even though there were way more "suitable" choices I don't regret getting it at all.
I think my next bike will be a ktm 1290 super adv S, because I want to give a try to something ment for my size, see if sensible but still fun is what I need in my life. Get the bike you want, spend all your money, it is worth it !!
I own a 1999 VFR and test rode a Street Triple recently, and above 70mph, the 20 year old Honda it’s way way better, comfort wise; even with the lower bars! In the rain, if you tuck in a little, it’s amazing how you don’t get wet, like you do on a naked or even on a ADV like a VStrom. I speak from experience, having owned a 600 Bandit and a 650 VStrom.
I had a 6th gen VFR for many years, and now ride a naked bike. The wind isn’t too much of an issue for me (I do have a flyscreen on it which takes some of the wind blast off my chest at 70+ mph), but you’re absolutely right about rain. On the VFR in a very light rain I could tuck in and down and only my knees and shoulders and maybe elbows would get wet. There is zero weather protection on a naked bike. Any rain at all and I get soaked.
That being said, I love how much easier it is to work on my new bike. No more carefully removing fairings to do oil changes, etc. Much easier to move around the garage or driveway, too. I loved my VFR, but I don’t miss it too much.
Spite is great. I really enjoy episodes like this with you guys together. Great chemistry
He fried him a while ago🥲
What I would love to see is a comparison between the various bikes that have the same engine but different styles ie all the various Kawasaki's that have the 650 twin engine, Ninja, Vulcan S, Versys etc
Sportbike all day long. I’ve had one ducati monster and it was a blast but a pure sportbike is so much more fun to ride.
M Motorcycles Definitely, I ride bikes to get that fizz, and riding anything other than at least a super sport feels like you may as well be in a car. I prefer a 600 for street, perfect blend of power and weight, and you can rev it out in lower gears without doing 180mph. I also have a long wingspan so that helps with comfort
Couldn’t agree more on the 600’s. I have a few bikes and I ride my 600 almost every day
I own a 2005 Ninja 636, winch I absolutely love. However I also very much enjoy bikes with more low end torque, my boss has a BMW K1200RS which is a very heavy behemoth sport touring bike but I gotta say the way that thing delivers power down low is quite a breath of fresh air coming off a 600 sport bike, even my 636 which tends to have a bit more low end power than other 600s. But when it comes what gives me the "fizz" as James May would say lol nothing compares to a sportbike at 12,000RPM, the sound and rush of a screaming inline 4 at that RPM is nothing short of a religious experience.
@@drewb242 I have the exact same bike and it's a fucking beast. That bike got stolen and disappeared for 2 years which led to them stripping everything performance related so the only thing left on it that screams aftermarket is the exhaust, there's nothing like the sound of a 636 banging the limiter down an empty interstate and hearing that Yoshi RS5 screaming the sound of its people. Even if it was stolen and all fucked up afterwards, I can't see me ever selling this bike, the 636 is fucking amazing, I just wish the BP was a little more aggressive
M Motorcycles Ducati are fun even the cheap supersport S only thing keeping me from buying it is that 6000 a year insurance payment
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I own a 2015 Interceptor and a 2017 XSR900. My favorite is the Interceptor
I want a super sport just to look cool but for practical reasons a naked bike is okay too. Thanks I really learned so many stuff.
I've had my FZ 07 for over a year now and while I love the naked standard riding position 95% of the time, I can't help but feel the longing to have a more rear set foot position when tucked on the freeway doing over 100 mph (in Mexico). I feel like the middle participant of an Eiffel Tower, and it's about as comfortable as that sounds.
You honestly need both.
exactly!
yes sir I would get a Supermoto
Yes all day... until you wallet laughs @ u...
I'm telling you, get an MT09 and R6
Seye Fasuyi I would prefer r1 mt07
Sport touring. It's like being on a naked bike, and having a wind shield
Or like being on a sport bike, and having cartilage between your vertebrae at the end of your ride.
Yep. GSX-S1000F here.....best of both worlds
It destroys both examples in every performance/ergo category too.
@@Vibrotronic gsxs is as close to my ideal bike as I can find.
Remingtin I love mine!
@@RemingtinArms if sound is a factor, then the VFR wins imo.
I turned this video on because I’m looking for my first bike and I was convinced I needed a sport bike so that I had the coolest and fastest bike on the block. But I have completely changed my mind now and I’m so happy I’ve seen this video. Thank you so much to both of you!
Update what did you buy and at what cost
I'm considering insurance costs when deciding. I have zero plans on doing anything crazy regardless so obviously the sport bike is underused by me but the look is so appealing 😂 I'm also curious what you ended up withh
@@AlmostLakai94I’m in the same boat as you rn.
@@tristanhoffman6974 I still haven't gotten anything yet but I did decide it'll be a full sport bike. Probably a CBR300/500 if possible 😯
I went from a 6th gen. VFR 800 I'd owned for 14 years to a naked BMW a year ago. At first at 60 mph I could feel the wind blast on my chest. It wasn't bothersome and I got used to it quickly. Then I could feel it at 65, then at 70. I installed a Dart Classic flyscreen this summer to cut some of the wind blast at freeway speeds (mostly for when I do trips and have to slab it a while). It's kind of noticeable at 75 but still not a problem. The flyscreen helps at that speed, but even without it the wind blast isn't terrible.
Ease of maintenance is so much better with the naked bike. I loved my VFR but I do not miss pulling the left fairing to do a simple oil change, something I did 2-3 times per year most years.
One other big difference is how much easier it is to move the naked bike around, and to make u-turns. A higher, tubular handlebar and greater turn-to-steering-lock makes the naked bike much more maneuverable both on and off the bike.
I do miss the weather protection of my VFR, including wind protection in colder temps, and the naked bike is much more of a pain to clean, but overall I think I really prefer the naked.
I'm a huge proponent of the VFR800. I have own both 5th and 6th gen versions. It all depends on where you ride and how you ride. VFR's are too often overlooked.
Very!
Quick audio advice: slap on a high pass filter at 100hz on your vocal channels. There's a ton of rumble here in your new studio. It's fairly common but sensitive condenser mics tends to pick this up sometimes. It'll also confuse UA-cam into truncating the overall volume of your video even though at times this might be in the inaudible range (think 20hz).
I love the remark about turning the bike on, just to listen to it idle. They’re beautiful machine art and sensations.
I'm a Naked bike kinda guy, all the way mate. Great input btw.
I bought duke 390, but I still love the sporty seating position of sports bikes. And highway riding on upright position not fun
I seriously love naked bikes. I might be a limited demographic that actually thinks they are better looking on average.
Always had full fared bikes and recently went with a R1 over an MT09 and Ducati monster and the decision literally came down to I'm only 25 once but I'm fairly certain next purchase will be a naked.
@Michael Moretti I partially agree but that could be said for any type of bike whether it be cruiser, naked, or supersport.
At the same time they each have models that are totally timeless (ala Ducati). I just personally think that the last 10 years or so has produced some absolutely gorgeous naked bikes. I'm an absolute sucker for an exposed trellis frame.
The local constables must just hate indecent you! ;
I mostly naked/ standard bike are better for me just because the sport bike back position hurt. But I feel like sport bikes are faster and my favorite rider use it to.
That cam on the naked bike was wobbling aroind a lot more. Seems like it was catching a lot more wind.
what yammie fails to mention is that a turbo busa is the best bike for any person no matter when where or experience 😂
Or a turbo'd Rocket 3!
I prefer the seat position and styling of naked bikes. plus it gives no prejudice to the untrained eye, a naked is instantly "less powerful and safer" lol.
See, as a soon-to-be 2-wheeler, nothing will stop me from getting an R7. Perfect balance for what I’m looking to get as a 30 y/o noob. I’ve been waiting to get a super sport-type bike since I was 17, and goddamnit, I’m getting it! 😂
A sports tourer is a balance of both worlds. Not too aggressive posture, wind protection + aerodynamics. Etc.
I love my cb500f the ergonomics are so comfortable
The CBR500R also has pretty comfortable ergonomics from what I've heard
Sometimes the small screen just gets the wind off your chest, a slightly taller screen sends the wind strait into your head. And then a really tall screen you almost need to look through it and all the clean air is lost. I like a small screen just to break the wind. Can still tuck at points if you really need to.
13:15 was doing 140mp/h the other day when we had hard wind. I drive a Suzuki GSF1200S (Bandit1200S) and i was pushed to the side about a quarter meter... was really fun times
I am glad that this channel addresses many questions/issues faced by motorcycle riders. This is one example in this video. Which is very useful, thats why I like this video/channel. So thank you for that. And I will try to contribute by buying sponsored products to support.
All I hear is "Buy a Hypermotard"
pick mine up in 6 days !
The only Ducati that i would own
all I hear is buy a Turbo Busa'
i chose a sport bike over a naked for one reason and one reason only. looks. have a feeling many people feel the same way
i got a 2021 MT10 last year and i couldnt be happier, its plenty for the street after the flash which really helps the power delivery it is an absolute savage.
6:30 "did I break it?" Yes. Yes, you did.
I am able to change the oil in my 2015 r3 without taking off my fairings. However, they really are a pain in the ass when you do have to take them off. The initial protection you can buy for your motorcycle is worth the extra money you'll spend regardless of whether or not you have fairings. I've screwed my r3 up a few times and I've had to replace and fix various necessary parts (crankcase, gaskets) on different occasions and the worst part everytime, aside from cost of course, is having to work around or remove the fairings. If you are doing work on a fully faired motorcycle expect plastic tabs to break, expect to have leftover hardware that you're not sure exactly where it came from and expect most of your time to do seemingly simple or straightforward jobs to be spent on removing and replacing your fairings. They're also expensive to replace if you break them. My r3 isn't worth buying new fairings for to be honest. Even a cheap set off of eBay. I've heard a few people say that if you buy a fully faired motorcycle to replace the OEM fairings with cheap fairings in case you mess it up. That way you will still have the original fairings in new condition for reselling or trade in purposes.
I think the point about feeling like a sail is great to bring up. The wind can really alter your speed and ability to accelerate and handle, especially with a smaller displacement motorcycle. Being so light you definitely get pushed around and the turbulence really is very noticeable coming over a windscreen, as was mentioned in the video. I've ridden with some bad crosswinds and I've had to be leaned pretty far over just to keep going straight down the road. I've not had the opportunity to ride a naked bike, but if it eliminates that sail-like effect and lessens the irritation of having to do maintenance then it would be well worth it.
I've considered as to whether or not I should get another sport style bike or a naked bike when I'm able to. As cool as sport bikes look, naked bikes definitely seem more practical. Overall cost and maintenance time of a naked compared to the same counterpart of a sport goes a long way. I'm definitely leaning more towards a naked bike in the future.
The only question left is, "which one do I get?"
Sounds like you definitely need a naked bike.
If you don’t like the look of that naked bike get one that doesn’t look like a robotic dragonfly - like a kawa z900rs.
I'm just glad naked bikes have become more common because nobody asks why I "took the plastics off" my SV650 anymore. Used to happen all the time, I don't miss explaining what the SV is. I love ss bikes, I think they are amazing and I've ridden some really fun examples, but I have zero desire to own one myself. Maybe as a track bike, but for my daily rider I'll take a naked all day every day. I've had the SV for about 15 years and so far haven't found anything I like better that I am willing to pay for.
Absolutely agree. A slight cross wind is very noticeable for a fully faired sportbike, especially at higher speeds. At first, I thought I'd be immune to that but apparently no.
Let's not forget while fairings are a pain to remove and refit, they do help protect the bike in the way of preventing crud dirt water stones etc from hitting the engine and other parts thus keeping the bikes reliability a peg above a naked. Also help with aerodynamics which in turn helps keep a few quid in your wallet in the long run.
True, not so much a factor when you like Yammie basically never keep a bike long enough for things like this to matter tho :P
Since i lost a screw all the way down in the bottom part of my scooters fairings and spent HOURS completely disassembling it i lost all interest in sport bikes
Helpful stuff guys, thank you. I do appreciate the yin & yang you two guys offer.
Great Video. I was looking at VFR's. I didn't think about the heat factor. Keep the videos coming.
The interview with addition of memes are hysterical
My 2019 MT-07 with the Akrapovic full system carbon is the most fun bike i've ever owned! Not the fastest but most fun!
Sport Touring is the most perfect option for me.
Or a naked with a tall windscreen.
Sport touring only works for asphalt. Adv bikes are the best choice, the come with windscreen from the factory
when you're on the highway for over an hour, especially if it's not particularly warm out, then the fairings are real nice to have.
i have owned a 2013 street triple 675 and a 2009 VFR800. The VFR is WAY more comfortable on the highway and being canadian you stay much warmer on cooler days. But the street triple was a rocket compared to the VFR, way more fun to throw around too
How about the Ducati Supersport S -- Little sprinkle of spice from a naked (monster) on a sport bike with some fairings. Kinda Slaps !
I genuinely think that the 2 of you over at Yammie Noob have forgotten the spirit of what it means to ride a motorcycle. Seriously, hear me out.
What got me into motorcycling was not the 2 wheels or the better fuel mileage or even reconnecting with how I felt as a youngin' on a bicycle with the freedom it gives. What got me into motorcycling was how a motorcycle makes me FEEL...
How I feel when riding a motorcycle, even if it isn't particularly fast, is what really draws me to ride in the first place. Every time I ride the steel horse I just get that little spring in my step and I just feel happier, and I love every minute of it even if the minute of it is hard and uncomfortable, if I wanted comfort i'd go get a comfortable cage and drive myself around in relative safety. No, despite the hard things about riding a motorcycle I still absolutely love the hobby even if I don't get to spend or participate as much as i'd like to.
Now on to choice of bike. I have always loved the look of the super sports from the first moment I laid eyes on a green Kawasaki Ninja, I didn't know what model or capacity at the time (I was also a dumb teenager) but when I looked at it I saw the epitome of style, the absolutely sexy look of the spots bike is just something that I will never get over I think. Now I am older and much, *ahem*, wiser I have the ability to own my very own beast that is the very same bike that I saw all those years ago (well, newer and not green, but white) and ride it as often as I can, and that is to say, in style. When someone buys a Lamborghini or a Ferrari they don't do it because they want to drive in comfort around the city they live, they drive it because they love the car and for the STYLE!
Owning a sports bike is hot, it's inconvenient, its mileage is no better than a small cage and it's relatively uncomfortable to ride... But... It's me... Riding it around just gives me the biggest smile around, I feel like just hopping on her gives me a grin from ear to ear. When i've had a shit day at work I walk down to the parking lot and see my bundle of joy just sitting there waiting for the next ride, I instantly feel happy, I instantly feel good, I instantly feel less shit about the crap I had to deal with just minutes prior.
Now that's not to say I hate naked bikes, nor that I hate cruisers (although years ago I said i'd never get a cruiser, but they're growing on me) but I respect your choice to ride whatever you want to ride because we don't ride bikes because of the sheer convenience factor, we ride them because we love them, warts and all. If I had the money and the space, i'd own one of every type of bike for every occasion, but since I don't have the money or the space then i'll have to settle for the sports bike that I always wanted as a kid, that now i'm grown up I can afford that makes me feel special every time I get in the saddle, even if I don't use it to its full capacity, she is mine and I love her... Warts and all...
I enjoyed the video. The terrain and highways look a lot like Arkansas. I agree with all discussion points. I think the advantage of a fully faired bike is with extended speeds over 70 mph. A well designed fairing can stabilize the bike and protect you some from the elements. It depends on how comfortable you want to be on long hauls.
Where you live also makes a difference - weather conditions make a big difference
10:15 as a VFR owner myself, this is why you dont fuck up a perfectly good bike by adding a larger windscreen, had you not done that, the airflow over your helmet would be smooth as butter ;) The screen is there to alleviate pressure from your body/chest.
Also you have to remove the left side lower faring for an oil change, that is it my man.
Unless something changed from the 14 to the 16 i have, x doubt. Just gotta be a little finicky getting the filter in/out. Hardly "tear off your hair" levels of frustration involved in that.
The cold on a naked is a real thing. I've owned a naked and now own a VFR actually and the difference in temperature is huge. For example, on my naked I used to wear underpants, winter jacket and winter gloves during winter in Portugal. On my VFR I went through all winter without underpants, without the winter jacket and also winter gloves.
The turbulance on the windscreen is bigger on the VFR though, it's very annoying...
Ah, I see that when you ride a naked bike, you must be fully dressed. But with a full fairing bike, you can be naked while riding. LOL.
@@mattingray5651 Isn't it normal to ride naked when on faired bikes?
No, but the diference I feel with the VFR is that I can wear an all seasons jacket, aswell as normal gloves and jeans
That big orange fairing means conspicuous and visible to traffic. Probably got twice as much chance as being hit by a car on that triple which will just blend into the background.
I use my naked bike (Suzuki BKing) as a daily commuter. Get a nice set of helmet to reduce wind noise and you’re good to go. Great ergonomics and Busa engine. Best of both worlds!!!
Hard comparison as sportsbike is such a wide segment now, and there's a lot of naked style bikes with fairings these days.
when the music hits so good you fall asleep.Thanks!
Chopin rocks. Just wish they looped a longer segment.
That's a nice VFR800F. And a VFR is a real sport bike.
As a Street triple rider, I can tell you naked bikes are the future of street riding. Superspots have always belonged on the track, and these days anyone looking for a road bike needs to try a naked bike.
AMEN! So much easier to maintain. The most you'd need is a front cowl for some wind protection.
I have a naked and really want a cbr600
hate the look of naked, so i will get a sports bike, a honda cbr 600rr
@@Spirittism my dude just RIDE a naked, you'll be blown away. It's all the performance of a supersport, packed into a bike you can ride for hours on end without discomfort.
Street Triple Rider for life! ✊
It's very personal no number can decide that one can choose the naked or full faired bike. it's all about feeling the ride that connects you more.
I've never understood all the complaints about the ergos of sport and supersports. I've ridden a Daytona 675 almost every day for 5 years. It's my commuter. I have never had these ergo complaints or aches. If your wrists are hurting/aching, wouldn't that mean you're not relaxing your arms like you're supposed to???
And BTW, I'm a 42 year old, 5'9, overweight guy. I'm not a spring chicken by any means and prone to aches and pains as it is!
Also, I've yet to roast my nuts sitting at a red light. I've been in over 100 degree weather every summer. Heat going into my helmet on the other hand, but then again, I lean back when I'm stopped, so problem solved.
@@TheBittner1 I think the problem is mate that people like to bitch and whine more these days....We've never had it so good and there's way too much choice on offer....jeez, some people complain of noisy tyres on thier bikes lol
Americans are so out of shape it's ridiculous. The poisoned air, water, and food has really taken its toll evidently. I'm 48 yrs old, and I'm in great shape, lighter than I was in college. My son, on the other hand, is like a grandpa. Everything is difficult for them. They are spoiled, out of shape, complainers. People who ride sport bikes are usually in good shape themselves. The bike reflects our body. If you're fat and out of shape like these guys in the video, then obviously a sport bike is not going to fit them. Get a couch on wheels if you are unfit and lazy.
I could commute on my GSX-R 600 no problem, it was only half hour each way. Now if I went cruising outside of the city with my friends or went on a trip outside of the that was more than 2 hours, it fucking sucked. After an hour and a half I’d start contemplating dropping a lit match in the gas tank and collect the insurance money.
Yep. I've commuted on a GSX-R600 for 100+ miles a day for years and it's great, which is why I still have it. I've had nakeds and they suck for going fast on freeways, but they are more comfortable for riding around town. It's all pretty basic common sense stuff.
Strange saying fairings are a vanity purchase. I bought my VFR1200F for the wind protection at high speeds and it’s been fantastic
I want a vfr1200 so bad. They look cool af, not many around and I bet it's silky smooth.
Great video guys. This was one of the big questions in my mind a lot!
Owning and using a Daucati 959 is not a fun on the street for longer rides..plus i live in India , it gets really hot in here
Started on a gsxr 600 shifted to an mt09 loved it but hated having no fairing, am now on an r1 and never been happier
Naked bikes are a call back to the designs of the 70s where the concept of a sport bike really came from. They are just cool. I love my RR and the looks of it, but I still love the look of my 74 CB as much.
Cosmetically speaking, a Naked is more...timeless.
Take it from a guy with a 20-year-old Triumph. My 955 ST is an absolutely wonderful machine, but it's starting look...dated.
Ergonomically, a ST or Naked is noticeably more comfy than a full-bore sport bike. I had to do a safety for a friend when he bought his RSV4-R Factory and coming from vintage UJMs/cruisers and my Sprint, just a ten minute road test HURT! I could do 300 miles a day on my bike,but 30 miles on his bike and I needed painkillers.
Good video guys; thanks for keeping us educated and entertained!
Say what you will but I LOVE when a bike looks typical of it's time. I don't find bikes like the busa or ninja 250 beautiful, but I admire their aesthetic even more because of the fact they remind me of another era.
@@CheapskateMotorsports Oh don't get me wrong: I love how my Sprint looks!
But you can much more easily tell the era a bike was made by the fairings it wears
Yo I thought I recognized those roads! I just moved down here in austin about the same time this video was posted ironically lol
Thankfully up here in Alberta the engine heat is a welcome thing. If I just commuted within the city and that was my stomping ground... a naked would be a better option. Just luckily I live on the outskirts and work is right there also. And if I take a left at the fork in the road I am immediately in the foothills of the Rockies. What a blessing. But you also can get huge amounts of wind, to the effect that we have digital highways signs telling you what the windspeed is at. Wind blast for hours on end is really tiring. So the best for me is the great zx14. This is I think one of the places that this bike is made for. Keep the rubber side down and enjoy the ride.
Good vid, here in England the weather is a big factor to consider , having a fairing is a big help with the rain and it rains a lot I mean a hell of a lot so a fairing makes sense. I however have just changed from a retro scrambler to a hyper naked. Sports bikes make god sense here as well due to the very narrow and very twisty roads here some are hundreds of years old. I am riding a Zontes ZT125U it may only have 15hp but I can ride it pretty much full throttle all the time and with the roads I can ride its great fun and all the roundabouts I can use all the rubber. Its more fun to ride slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. Great channel, keep it up.
When we're young with raging hormones, the only thing that makes sense (in our head) are Supersports.
As you get older, taste gets refined.
There you go, unless you're heavily into track racing, the cross breezes actually make fairings on the sport bike is actually a negative! A"sail!" catching those cross breezes.
i seriously consider VFR to be more of a sports tourer than a sports bike
You guys are the BEST!!!
I commute on the Deutsche Autobahn and can't imagine a better bike for that job than a Honda VFR. I tried a naked and it was fine up to 130 km/h, above that it's just exhausting.
Exactly! I used to live in Germany 🇩🇪 as well. A naked bike is good for shorter commutes but would not be great on longer highway trips. That’s actually the reason why they have fairings on them. If the naked bike was the better option then Spite wouldn’t have purchased the Honda VFR. I see an application for both of these bikes. One for riding around the city and the other for longer trips.
@@AlexTheLi0n Same here. I did my A licence on a Z650 but after test drive on the Autobahn i finally i bought the Ninja 650 with fairings.
I just picked up on Saturday a brand new '19 ZX6R, now I already have a Hayabusa for highway use but I was thinking that maybe I want a cruiser as well, something like a Boulevard M50 or Vulcan 650S but I must admit, a nice grey and orange MT-07 at the dealership has caught my eye and now you SOB's got me second guessing my new purchase. Well when all the C19 bs is done and better weather hits I just may have to take a naked out for a ride, I've never ridden one before and now I'm looking forward to it.
Started riding on a MT-07 and only issue I took from naked bikes is the highway speeds wind being a bit much on some days
Get a windscreen
LEC illuforce big windscreen makes the bike wobble at higher speeds and small screens don’t do anything other than add to the look of the bike..
Commuting half an hour highway, then a bit of a shield is relaxing. And fairing also helps with avoiding some of the rain (and in the Netherlands it rains a lot). This is why half fairing is ideal, you can still access most, and don't have to take off everything. And a bit of fairing just looks better...
Yep I already liked naked bikes after I recently received a free 49cc moped it is my first “bike” and replacing the electrical wires and battery requires removed an unholy amount of plastic. But at least I’m into motorcycles now.
I commute on my bike about 40 minutes to work, I could do it just as well on the VFR. I have commuted on sportsbikes like a R1 as well as standards and cruisers. The one thing I can say about true clip on sportsbikes is low speed is tiring, also replacing the tires is way more often. Since on my off days I liked to have more grip to play. So softer tires wear quicker. I do like the mix of my new bike best, it's a FTR which is a twin, so the torque really makes low rpm, casual commute easy, yet it can get rowdy if I want it to.
I’m for which ever makes if faster and more comfortable! And In their comes the problem full sport bikes will wear you out quick riding them bent over and the other bakers lack the blistering high speeds the sport bikes can hit!
Recently picked up a 2015 Daytona 675. I see why you're addicted
Hiya guys and well done, what you say makes alot of sense!! When I was younger it HAD to be a sports bike for me so R6 and then R1s, now I am er more mature I love the 1000 nakeds and I currently have a CB1000R and an MT10SP, wonderful bikes and those engines mmmmm.
I like to ride my bike naked, that's all I know.
Sport bike for track days and sport naked for street.
Monster 1200 for street and r6 for track days...works for me.
Ok Pappa Yam. I've yet to hear your opinion on the Ninja 500. I've seen many comments that are asking the same. I have one and love it
hi guys love the vid of your cool bikes both are just works of mechanical art and also thanx for the indepth explanation and road demo of the differences. safe riding guys.
Sporty nakeds have all the umpf one might need on the Street .
Gosh if I want I can let my SV 650 fly . and at those speeds in corners or straights you get a huge fine anyway .
Sportbikes are literally just for going stupid fast in a straight line or stupid fast in some 3° corner where you can fly through with over 120 mph.
For anything else nakeds are just the best.
(My opinion)
Ugh , hate how yammi some how reads my mind and produces a video that is on the exact subject i was considering the next day. Never fails this is like 4th time.
Still works? Or has it been patched?
Haha
what am i doing with my life?
Just bought a 2015 honda cb300f and I love it. Its not alot of power but its a great bike for me to start on! And plus naked is always better in any situation! 😃
I live in the UK, and the difference between naked and having a decent fairing/screen is massive when it's cold. On my naked bike I need heated stuff in winter. Faired bike and no need.
I envy your warm-climate problems!
I was wondering about this. Minnesota spring and fall can get pretty chilly. Do the fairings it really make that much of a difference?
@@1truefreedomfighter It more depends on the bike, some are just known to run hotter in general. Example; i have a Triumph trident /naked. Plenty of heat coming at you, slightly on the toasty side. Then again, many factors going on here, summer? winter,what state do you live in? riding in the day? at night? I notice a 15degree temp difference when the sun goes down suddenly; ie you were geared perfectly then instantly not so much/ it can happen just like that. Have had both "crotch rockets" and naked's also cruizer's. At the end of the day, test ride many bikes and you still with have to deal with the weather, road conditions througing things in different directions. I prefer "naked's" like they mentioned in the vid, more comfortable riding position, but with almost the same performance as a sportbike(can hit the twisties hard)). Just try to get as many test rides as possible/and then even that is just a taste of what the bike has to offer. Refering to your question, yes it makes a difference on a sportbike the plastic fearing directs the heat directly at your legs, some dont mind it, others not so much. -Cheers
@@1truefreedomfighter It depends on the fairing, but yes it makes a difference.
Sports bike= air on helmet, so still cold and need heated gear if less than 5°C.
Tourer (eg FJR 1300) = little air on body. No need for heated gear beyond heated grips.
@@mikein60fps30 I think in real cold, the engine heat is less of a factor than the wind chill.
@@mikein60fps30 I think in real cold, the engine heat is less of a factor than the wind chill.
I used to live in Germany 🇩🇪 . A naked bike is good for shorter commutes but would not be great on longer highway trips. That’s actually the reason why they have fairings on them. If the naked bike was the better option then Spite wouldn’t have purchased the Honda VFR. I see an application for both of these bikes. One for riding around the city and the other for longer trips.
Appreciate the input and knowledge! 👍
Ohh my dude this hits all the way home for me! I had a R6 then went to a WR450 motard because it was just so much more fun but those dirt bike seats aren’t the best under ass. I took out a demo mv agusta dragster a few years back and that was like the perfect package of speed, fun and comfort. Needless to say I saved my dollarydoos for a couple years and bought a brand new Dragster RR last year and have no regretted it yet!