@@SuperQdaddy easy there Fatty daddy , there are always stupid comments made by volunteer firefighters or people who push computer keys all for a living
is it ? was it ? Something to be said about uneducated ignorance like your comment. It probably take you 10 min to walk to the fire room in street clothes let alone making water connections and dragging hundreds of feet of hose, weighing hundreds of pounds in turnout gear, breathing SCBA, and in zero visibility you dumbass! Good thing dept like this exist to save morons like you!
I'd say the opposite is true - it's one of the most difficult cities to be a fire fighter - thanks to the FDNY it looks so seem less and simple - but that's because of their efforts and efficiency. Since NY is so crowded, high buildings, old buildings, etc. this very tough job becomes a lot more dangerous. Perhaps all these factors make FDNY the best fire fighters on the planet - would you agree?
@Sky Shark Media FDNY are slow and inept?? You really are a jerk off , and I'd say a moron , where do u get your vast experience to make this analysis?
Amazing at how many of the FDNY's rigs showed up for this fire: Ladders, Engines, Squads, Rescues. Any fire requires a lot of equipment when in Manhattan.
Tommy Fraustro Appreciate the info. My hometown only has 2 Ladder Companies and 4 Engine Companies with two more Engines as Auxiliary. I'm not sure we have a third Ladder Company as Auxiliary as well... Most of our backup comes from the neighboring fire departments in the surrounding townships. Also, I figured some of those sirens I heard were the FDNY EMS Bureau's response as well with the Major Emergency Response Vehicle (MERV), it's partner Logistical Support Unit (LSU) vehicle, and several of their ambulances along with those from participating hospitals like St. Luke's-Roosevelt and New York Presbyterian.
It’s no so much about the equipment as the manpower... even the most fit and healthy guys get a good 15-20 minutes of work in before command tries to switch them out for rehab.
I think this was more than a full first alarm (4 engines, 2 ladders, battalion chief and Rescue-if it was Manhatten, most likely Rescue1), plus special calls for additional rigs like a mask service unit, EMS and a division chief. Yeah, I may live in Nebraska, but I've always been an admirer of the FDNY ever since I read "Report from Engine Co. 82". I grieved when they lost so many on 9-11-01.
Love all the arm chairs...remember, you're watching a fire on UA-cam because you can't remember when your last one was. Tough to criticize guys that fight more in a year than what most will see in many years. Sit back and admire the work. Nobody gives a rip about your negative analysis...
The two best lines in this video are the video taker and guest. At 8:57 - 09:03 Video Taker: "Sign is on fire" person with video taker "You know what..he needed a new sign anyway".....funny stuff. Oh...and FDNY is best in the business...they responded to over 20,000 structure fires in 2012..they get a lot of practice folks :)
Yep. If you hit the fire outside through the window, the air in front of the streme of water is actually feeding and pushing the fire back through the building. We want to use it to our advantage and push it out the window.
My understanding from a member of FDNY who responded to the fire was that it was likely an electrical fire. I cannot speak to the potential drug abuse of the family involved but a neighbor at the scene told me the residents ran the store below the fire. He also mentioned that they had been in the neighborhood at that location for a long time. It must have been tragic to lose both their home and to suffer extensive damage to their store in the same fire.
Christ on a bike, that woman's annoying. There's always one gobby bint that thinks she knows better than everyone else. I'd like to apologise on behalf of us women who trust the firefighters to do their job and don't stand there flapping our gums about the techniques involved. Also, living in a tiny Scottish village in the arse-end of nowhere means I've not seen a fire like this before. The smoke alone was terrifying enough and I am in awe of all firefighters who risk their lives to save others. I'm an emergency responder and so is my husband, but we aren't firefighters - no way josé lol! Those dudes are bad ass!
@gmcbuses A garden hose is not going to do crap on a structure fire. Period. There's not enough gpm's to overcome the heat, and you can't get any penetration to the seat of the fire. The fire is spreading horizontally and vertically as well. Not to mention your likely to be smacked in the head by burning debris. A garden hose on anything bigger that a small dumpster is pointless.
Looking at Google street view in 2020, the building's fire damage was repaired - new windows, new store awning, and bricks cleaned, all on the outside. Some faint soot stains still show on the lintel above the window where fire was shooting out.
To:Dustin Harris:Can you believe that your video New york city fire in Hell's kitchen is still one of the most popular videos in 2018? That's so amazing, Have a Happy New Year!
NYFD is awesome. One of only 3 fire departments that I have seen that RUNS to the fire if there are people to be rescued. I could never be a fireman, I can only sit back and watch in amazement at their courage and determination.
+John Lovett No doubt the FDNY is a very aggressive fire dept. but as a professional fire firefight I take offense to your comments.Across the country we all do the same job with the same Amount of skill and aggressiveness. Please don't short charge other FF's
Philip Sykes no i wasn't trying to short change any other Fire Department or any other members just simply implying that the FDNY is much more aggressive then most others
Most departments are governed by other agencies or have their own Standard Operating Procedures that prohibit how they attack a fire. As a volunteer for three and a half years I will say that when ever I got on the scene and reports were made that people were still in the building, you couldn't get masked up fast enough to get in that building before some one took your spot.
Philip You're right. People put to much emphasis on popular initials like, FDNY, LAFD and CHFD. A fire department is only as good as the Work Ethic of the individual fire fighter. If you took someone from any other department and put them in a FDNY uniform, that person would be no different. Have a mediocre person get on the FDNY department and they will not Instantly turn into a Super Hero.
I think its really funny how ignorant the public is. For someone who has never been employed in public safety, its funny to hear some of the stupid comments. The people speaking in this video are perfect examples. All they know is that when you dial 911 someone comes. They have no clue as to how the 911 system works or the countless hours of training our police firefighters and dispatchers endure to keep us safe. Nor do most care as long as someone shows up quickly.
Gotta love the response. Immediately after the first due engine arrived multiple other units are on the scene within seconds with about a dozen firefighters literally racing to the fire. Just over three minutes and they got water on the flames. As a New yorker I'm glad we have the hundreds of pieces of apparatus and the 11+ thousand members that help this city stay safe and keep running.
Obviously not even a novice... You don't put a hose into the window, that would spread the fire into the building. They had to go inside, upstairs and into the apartment to hit it from the inside. They did this in about 3 minutes from arrival and that's great.
How i wish my homeland would get to this level of response by emergency apparatus. Its a pity to note that the city council of Nairobi has one fire truck on standby which takes ages to respond to a distress call.
Hello, sorry for my English. First, compliance with New York firefighters. I'm french and fireman in a barracks doing 11,000 operations a year. Our techniques are very different. I was surprised by the location of the first truck. Why put it in a window on fire? Is this normal or a mistake?
It turns out that geographically the nearest firehouse to this location is actually Rescue 1, just five blocks south. Engine 54/Truck 4/Battalion 9 is only two blocks east, and Engine 34/Truck 21 is ten blocks south.
do they leave the siren on to help people evacuate the area? maybe people with no smoke alarms or something so they say "whats that?" and look out and see a fire?
Can I ask why it takes so long to get water flowing in the states? And why flat laid hose is preferred? This fire in the UK would have 4-5 engines, no ladder and no rescue.
JW93Emergency I won't question your tactics where you work and live ... HOWEVER let's recap .... 1st engine onscene in 1:30 with first line stretched. Ladder to the roof for ventilation in 3 minutes. Water on the fire in 4:50, with a second line stretched to the floor above and searches and rescues in progress .... Considering the MPO had to hook the hydrant and connect the line and then charge it! This is an AWESOME job by the members ... Having said ALL that we can ALWAYS look for ways to improve, and do better, and we continue to do that ... Two questions what would or do you use other than flat laid hose? Also how would you do the rescues and ventilation without a ladder?
Don't get me wrong, firefighters in the states do a splendid job I just wondered about their use of flat laid hose and why it seems a longer time required to get flowing. We prefer variable pressure reels and rolled hose. It's easier to deploy and drag and can supply a perfectly decent amount of water. An engine in the UK carries ladders and venting like you do in the states walking on the roof cutting holes isn't really common place unless in a terraced home or thatched property. We use firebreaks and vents in those situations. We are lucky in the UK that we have a universal hydrant system: any fire appliance can plug into any hydrant, anywhere in the country if needs be. Ladders are few and far between. My county has only 4, some counties only have 2.
I'm going to say in the city like NYC a rolled hose will not work for space and manpower requirements. When we stretch our hose the nozzleman takes the first few folds and steps down and the backup man gets the next few (depending on how far they have to stretch) and the 3rd man takes the remaining amount needed to reach the fire. We have it down to a science. I'm going to say average stretch is about 350 to 400 feet. In OUR case what you see in the video is TEXTBOOK on how we fight our fires. Everyone has a particular job to do from roof vent, search and rescue, to line placement and operation. In SOME cases a fire like this can be knocked down with a 2.5 gal WATERCAN from a Ladder Company ... I love this video because it shows how fast and perfect everything can go when everyone does their job. Our buildings are old, and if we didn't VENT them the people who may be trapped inside would have NO CHANCE at survival, and conditions for the FF going in would be even more horrible.
Interior / Exterior Attack at the same time is a no-go youre right, but directing a stream a litte above the fire floor window would stop the fire from jumping to the next floor trough the windows.
@denelson83 rescue probably wouldnt be requested to a fire of this size and nature, probably the typical response protocol for FDNY on a 10-75 (working fire) is 4 engines, 3 ladders, 2 battalion, and 1 rescue and/or squad if available/requested
@gmcbuses I must disagree, if you shoot water into an opening thats venting, you push heat and fire back on to the victims and hinder any interior attack. Its good that the window is venting because the color of the smoke indicates the fire is starving for oxygen, notice how the smoke lights off when the air fuel mixture gets right. Let it vent, attack with a 21/2 from the hall door and push it out the window. The truck co. should be above checking for extension or victims.
@graves420fire Doubt it but it's possible. 10-75 comes with 4 Engines, 2 Trucks, 2 Bat. Chiefs, A Rescue, A Squad, and an additional ladder as a FAST truck. They can also request an additional 2 engines and ladders if they transmit an All-Hands operating. Any more units needs an additional alarm.
Horrifying to have to endure a fire like this. This is literally my worst nightmare. I wasn't even scared to go into combat but even the thought of going through this ,I can't put that fear into words. The men and women who willingly go into blazes to save life and property really are heroes and have my greatest respect.
I've got the FDNY Manhattan radio for this particular fire. It was in E54 and L4's first due originally put out for W48th & 10th Ave for a fire on the 2nd floor w/ multiple calls.
What you saw in the beggining is how turbulant that smoke is the thinkness of it the volume and speed and then flames rollin out. Thats called flashover everything in a room reaches the ignintion temp and catches fire. Thats why smoke changed and also the flames began comin out faster
This just came up in FH Mag on line; question, should 54’s go past the entrance on the 4 side to let Truck 21 commit there also? Not sure how the fellas do things up there and this is not a negative comment but just curious…….Be safe Brothers!
Bless the fire fighters and the people who lived in that building. I couldn't help but wonder what it was that used to be painted on the side .....you could still faintly see the outlines.
Never. Flowing the hose through the window is a bad idea, when we open the hose up, water comes out, but it also pushes air out. If we put it through the window, we are not only feeding the fire, but pushing it through the building rather than stopping it. We need to go inside and push it out the window, instead.
I don't think there is any way the store on the ground floor would remain undamaged even if not affected by the fire itself. Water damage itself would likely destroy most if not all merchandise. In a fire of this type, multiple floors involved (with the number of apparatus arriving, this is at least a 3-alarm blaze) the structural integrity of the building itself could be compromised. It'd probably be quite some time before any part of the building would be occupied again.
Living rural i understand bars to keep the bad guys out but in a fire can you pop them off from the inside so you can escape? I dont see bars on these windows but i go to CCI on long island and doing the cross bronx every window is barred.
+Jordan Durham Either you are a kid or trolling or you are very ignorant to how fire scenes are actually handled outside of the movies or TV. There is water on the fire within 3 minutes of the the first engine arrival, either way nobody including the FDNY really gives a shit about your horribly inaccurate, unqualified assessment, but of course everybody likes to play arm chair quarterback. Feel free anytime to come here to show the GREATEST dept in the world how you would handle this.
+Jordan Durham Let me guess. You live in the UK right? There always seems to be one tool coming on here beaking off about how amazing UK fire departments. I've watched some videos from there myself and haven't seen anything to be impressed by.
@TheGoalie213 All of these companies have radio's. If the first due truck had an issue with the first due engine setting up where they did, it would have been transmitted over the air and the resources relocated. First due companies are usually very familiar with their response area and this may have been the only hydrant close enough to make a quick attack on an obviously old structure with lots of fire potential and as you can see from later in the video, aerials can be extended where needed.
I watch this for inspiration. Everyone needs to watch our 1st Responders in action & hear THEIR side of various situations. Much love to our 1st Responders 💗💗💗💗
notice the guys on the first engine no panic just a time to work attitude your witnessing a dying art interior firefighting the fdny continues to set the bar great job from and keep on setting the standard fom local 1 pittsburgh
Hi, Did you ever hear what caused the Hell's kitchen fire? I know that was awhile back. I just saw the video for the 1st time. Great job on the video, apparently you were the only one that uploaded a video on it.
Why wouldn't you put water through the window till the internal crews were in place then turn it off. Cool the place down, maybe prevent upward spread and maybe even put it out.
Not the Whole Tanker in a window!! But years back SNORKEL fire appliances UK had one made. It had the extended Lance , which punched thru anything around 3 to 4 inches wide with variable Spray & then into Jet or even Both, spray first to kill the room , all controlled by the Ground and via Camera on Boom. ie water on room fire -s or Attics,in the matter of 2 minutes, and No risk to F/fighters, Back draft, or multiple Men on a roof
@TheGoalie213 they cant give there ladder truck becouse he need more spase to prepare it. Usually they use ladder truck to get firemens to other floor to rescue victims
I think they may have given this two alarms, or maybe went with a 10-75 on it.......deffinately heard a bunch of second due rigs later in the video though
Looks like the OV from 21 truck did some nice work.. you can see him entering the FE with fire just starting to roll out the window. I'm sure he got atleast that bedroom done before the engine started their push. Nice work brothers
We all are drawn to burning fire. Yet it is wrapped in tragedy. Loss of living space, property and lives. In 1969 in knoxville , tn. I was listening to a shortwave radio set my father had gifted me from his return from tour in Vietnam. Dad had a very high fidelity stereo he had built himself. Brand new song playing " Age of Aquarius " fifth dimension. All sudden power went off. I ran downstairs to ask Dad what happened . Looked across street and seen flames shooting out neighbors house. Owner was backing out his 68 mustang away from his recreation room he was building. It cathartic to me. My Korean war/ Vietnam War Dad standing there while his older children gathered around to see if he could do something. Fire department response was 6 miles away. That day I got to see professionals attack the monstor/ destroyer of lives.
it would have a 1st. response for a 10-75 working fire 3 engines 2 trucks 1 battalion 1 rescue. apone arrival it would then for this call be transmitted a 10-75 all hand which bring in 2 more engines 1 ladder 1 fast truck 1 sat. unit 2 battalions 1 rac unit. but due to the size of the building they may have trans a 2nd alarm which bring an additional 3 engines 3 trucks 2 batt. 1 rescue 1 fast truck ems would be 1 als 2 bls rigs
Yeah, that's what is seemed like. And it was an all hands fire so it was some serious bussniess, and I'm sure they weren't happy to see a bunch of people blocking them.
@Wa3ypx That guy they never did get him down before the video ended. With I said 4 days ago is they should of sprayed a stream of water against the wall above the window where it was venting. That would of prevented the fire from going up the wall to the apartment above, lighting the windowsill on fire.
5300 Liters (+) of Water? To the Windows? Are you serious? The floor´s below would suffer a major water damage - this is not how a FD should work. We should try to decrease the damage and confine it to the Fire floor.
You see the black smoke coming out the window. Activate the pump and extinguish and cool the room through the window with a Booster line and Tank Water within one minute of arrival. Let's see how long the world's Heroes take. How long did that fire Threaten victims and the entering Heroes?
@longislandy the first due engine could have easily had access to that hydrant had they pulled up a few feet more and allowed the truck to sit on the corner.
A fire engine supposedly carries 500 gallons of water. I do not see why one fireman could not of by 3:45 of the video, could not of pointed a hose toward that window, with the flames billowing out, attacking that fire.
Gotta love the sidewalk firemen...they should do this, they should do that..just be quiet and watch the greatest FD in the world do what they do best.
Are you kidding g me..they were just observing..your comment is what sucks
Yep best in the world.. only took them 5mins to finally get water on that fire..
@@SuperQdaddy easy there Fatty daddy , there are always stupid comments made by volunteer firefighters or people who push computer keys all for a living
What about LA? 😂 (I live in upstate NY leave me alone)
is it ? was it ? Something to be said about uneducated ignorance like your comment. It probably take you 10 min to walk to the fire room in street clothes let alone making water connections and dragging hundreds of feet of hose, weighing hundreds of pounds in turnout gear, breathing SCBA, and in zero visibility you dumbass! Good thing dept like this exist to save morons like you!
This is an amazing display of teamwork and devotion in the FDNY. You have no idea how good if feels to watch this.
Absolutely. N.Y.F.D. doing its best.
New York City has to be one of the best cities to be a firefighter.
I'd say the opposite is true - it's one of the most difficult cities to be a fire fighter - thanks to the FDNY it looks so seem less and simple - but that's because of their efforts and efficiency.
Since NY is so crowded, high buildings, old buildings, etc. this very tough job becomes a lot more dangerous.
Perhaps all these factors make FDNY the best fire fighters on the planet - would you agree?
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@@Masood1810 I agree , I'd have to add Detroit in there with FDNY also , those boys work there ass off in Detroit
@Sky Shark Media FDNY are slow and inept?? You really are a jerk off , and I'd say a moron , where do u get your vast experience to make this analysis?
@Sky Shark Media You are obviously an ignorant, A-Hole
Amazing at how many of the FDNY's rigs showed up for this fire: Ladders, Engines, Squads, Rescues. Any fire requires a lot of equipment when in Manhattan.
Erik standard response for a 10-75 (working fire) is 4 engines, 3 trucks, 1 rescue, 1 squad and some battalion Chiefs.
Tommy Fraustro
Appreciate the info. My hometown only has 2 Ladder Companies and 4 Engine Companies with two more Engines as Auxiliary. I'm not sure we have a third Ladder Company as Auxiliary as well...
Most of our backup comes from the neighboring fire departments in the surrounding townships.
Also, I figured some of those sirens I heard were the FDNY EMS Bureau's response as well with the Major Emergency Response Vehicle (MERV), it's partner Logistical Support Unit (LSU) vehicle, and several of their ambulances along with those from participating hospitals like St. Luke's-Roosevelt and New York Presbyterian.
Tommy Fraustro
Used to be 3 and (all hands) 2 and possibly the squad and rescue
It’s no so much about the equipment as the manpower... even the most fit and healthy guys get a good 15-20 minutes of work in before command tries to switch them out for rehab.
I think this was more than a full first alarm (4 engines, 2 ladders, battalion chief and Rescue-if it was Manhatten, most likely Rescue1), plus special calls for additional rigs like a mask service unit, EMS and a division chief. Yeah, I may live in Nebraska, but I've always been an admirer of the FDNY ever since I read "Report from Engine Co. 82". I grieved when they lost so many on 9-11-01.
Love all the arm chairs...remember, you're watching a fire on UA-cam because you can't remember when your last one was. Tough to criticize guys that fight more in a year than what most will see in many years. Sit back and admire the work. Nobody gives a rip about your negative analysis...
+Digimutant it is pretty hard my family is on one
THANX BROTHER!
Amen!
So true
I agree anyone who hasn't served has no business to criticize!
I like how the construction workers take it upon themselves to make way for the apperatus.
The two best lines in this video are the video taker and guest. At 8:57 - 09:03 Video Taker: "Sign is on fire" person with video taker "You know what..he needed a new sign anyway".....funny stuff. Oh...and FDNY is best in the business...they responded to over 20,000 structure fires in 2012..they get a lot of practice folks :)
They couldn't function without humor.
Yep. If you hit the fire outside through the window, the air in front of the streme of water is actually feeding and pushing the fire back through the building. We want to use it to our advantage and push it out the window.
I was visiting New York this past winter & I have to admit; these guys are extremely professional. They get what needs to be done, done.
My understanding from a member of FDNY who responded to the fire was that it was likely an electrical fire. I cannot speak to the potential drug abuse of the family involved but a neighbor at the scene told me the residents ran the store below the fire. He also mentioned that they had been in the neighborhood at that location for a long time. It must have been tragic to lose both their home and to suffer extensive damage to their store in the same fire.
great vid. It's great to catch the progressing stages of fire, and more importantly, the stages of smoke. Very nice, Good job FDNY
Christ on a bike, that woman's annoying. There's always one gobby bint that thinks she knows better than everyone else. I'd like to apologise on behalf of us women who trust the firefighters to do their job and don't stand there flapping our gums about the techniques involved. Also, living in a tiny Scottish village in the arse-end of nowhere means I've not seen a fire like this before. The smoke alone was terrifying enough and I am in awe of all firefighters who risk their lives to save others. I'm an emergency responder and so is my husband, but we aren't firefighters - no way josé lol! Those dudes are bad ass!
I can't stand listening to the dumbasses on these videos. I always listen to them with the sound off.
@gmcbuses A garden hose is not going to do crap on a structure fire. Period. There's not enough gpm's to overcome the heat, and you can't get any penetration to the seat of the fire. The fire is spreading horizontally and vertically as well. Not to mention your likely to be smacked in the head by burning debris. A garden hose on anything bigger that a small dumpster is pointless.
Looking at Google street view in 2020, the building's fire damage was repaired - new windows, new store awning, and bricks cleaned, all on the outside. Some faint soot stains still show on the lintel above the window where fire was shooting out.
To:Dustin Harris:Can you believe that your video New york city fire in Hell's kitchen is still one of the most popular videos in 2018? That's so amazing, Have a Happy New Year!
NYFD is awesome. One of only 3 fire departments that I have seen that RUNS to the fire if there are people to be rescued. I could never be a fireman, I can only sit back and watch in amazement at their courage and determination.
you're absolutely right, they are very aggressive when it comes to fighting fires, no other department in the US is as aggressive as they are
+John Lovett No doubt the FDNY is a very aggressive fire dept. but as a professional fire firefight I take offense to your comments.Across the country we all do the same job with the same
Amount of skill and aggressiveness. Please don't short charge other FF's
Philip Sykes no i wasn't trying to short change any other Fire Department or any other members just simply implying that the FDNY is much more aggressive then most others
Most departments are governed by other agencies or have their own Standard Operating Procedures that prohibit how they attack a fire. As a volunteer for three and a half years I will say that when ever I got on the scene and reports were made that people were still in the building, you couldn't get masked up fast enough to get in that building before some one took your spot.
Philip You're right. People put to much emphasis on popular initials like, FDNY, LAFD and CHFD. A fire department is only as good as the Work Ethic of the individual fire fighter. If you took someone from any other department and put them in a FDNY uniform, that person would be no different. Have a mediocre person get on the FDNY department and they will not Instantly turn into a Super Hero.
8:58 the signs on fire "oh he needed a new one anyway"
Connor Foley it’s not like everything doesn’t need money
I think its really funny how ignorant the public is. For someone who has never been employed in public safety, its funny to hear some of the stupid comments. The people speaking in this video are perfect examples. All they know is that when you dial 911 someone comes. They have no clue as to how the 911 system works or the countless hours of training our police firefighters and dispatchers endure to keep us safe. Nor do most care as long as someone shows up quickly.
@Mark Tarbis THIS THING IS SERIOUS NOT FUNNY
Thank god for first amendment.
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Gotta love the response. Immediately after the first due engine arrived multiple other units are on the scene within seconds with about a dozen firefighters literally racing to the fire. Just over three minutes and they got water on the flames. As a New yorker I'm glad we have the hundreds of pieces of apparatus and the 11+ thousand members that help this city stay safe and keep running.
Should be able to get water on it within a minute.
Obviously not even a novice...
You don't put a hose into the window, that would spread the fire into the building. They had to go inside, upstairs and into the apartment to hit it from the inside. They did this in about 3 minutes from arrival and that's great.
How i wish my homeland would get to this level of response by emergency apparatus. Its a pity to note that the city council of Nairobi has one fire truck on standby which takes ages to respond to a distress call.
Hello, sorry for my English. First, compliance with New York firefighters. I'm french and fireman in a barracks doing 11,000 operations a year. Our techniques are very different. I was surprised by the location of the first truck. Why put it in a window on fire? Is this normal or a mistake?
It turns out that geographically the nearest firehouse to this location is actually Rescue 1, just five blocks south. Engine 54/Truck 4/Battalion 9 is only two blocks east, and Engine 34/Truck 21 is ten blocks south.
Hi Dustin, man that was a bad fire , I hope everyone made it out ok , thanks for filming this friend ! 👍😳
i'd hope it was a quick response considering the fire department is only 2 blocks away.
do they leave the siren on to help people evacuate the area? maybe people with no smoke alarms or something so they say "whats that?" and look out and see a fire?
Great job FDNY -- quick knock down, several rescues - but what the hell, all in a day's work. Kudos, brothers
Can I ask why it takes so long to get water flowing in the states? And why flat laid hose is preferred? This fire in the UK would have 4-5 engines, no ladder and no rescue.
JW93Emergency You don't understand...
Hence why I'm asking. That is, it may surprise you, why people ask questions!
JW93Emergency I won't question your tactics where you work and live ... HOWEVER let's recap .... 1st engine onscene in 1:30 with first line stretched. Ladder to the roof for ventilation in 3 minutes. Water on the fire in 4:50, with a second line stretched to the floor above and searches and rescues in progress .... Considering the MPO had to hook the hydrant and connect the line and then charge it! This is an AWESOME job by the members ... Having said ALL that we can ALWAYS look for ways to improve, and do better, and we continue to do that ... Two questions what would or do you use other than flat laid hose? Also how would you do the rescues and ventilation without a ladder?
Don't get me wrong, firefighters in the states do a splendid job I just wondered about their use of flat laid hose and why it seems a longer time required to get flowing. We prefer variable pressure reels and rolled hose. It's easier to deploy and drag and can supply a perfectly decent amount of water. An engine in the UK carries ladders and venting like you do in the states walking on the roof cutting holes isn't really common place unless in a terraced home or thatched property. We use firebreaks and vents in those situations. We are lucky in the UK that we have a universal hydrant system: any fire appliance can plug into any hydrant, anywhere in the country if needs be. Ladders are few and far between. My county has only 4, some counties only have 2.
I'm going to say in the city like NYC a rolled hose will not work for space and manpower requirements. When we stretch our hose the nozzleman takes the first few folds and steps down and the backup man gets the next few (depending on how far they have to stretch) and the 3rd man takes the remaining amount needed to reach the fire. We have it down to a science. I'm going to say average stretch is about 350 to 400 feet. In OUR case what you see in the video is TEXTBOOK on how we fight our fires. Everyone has a particular job to do from roof vent, search and rescue, to line placement and operation. In SOME cases a fire like this can be knocked down with a 2.5 gal WATERCAN from a Ladder Company ... I love this video because it shows how fast and perfect everything can go when everyone does their job. Our buildings are old, and if we didn't VENT them the people who may be trapped inside would have NO CHANCE at survival, and conditions for the FF going in would be even more horrible.
Interior / Exterior Attack at the same time is a no-go youre right, but directing a stream a litte above the fire floor window would stop the fire from jumping to the next floor trough the windows.
What always impresses me with the yanks is the short amount of time it takes getting trucks on the scene especially in the cities.
@denelson83 rescue probably wouldnt be requested to a fire of this size and nature, probably the typical response protocol for FDNY on a 10-75 (working fire) is 4 engines, 3 ladders, 2 battalion, and 1 rescue and/or squad if available/requested
I remember seeing this from 5oth street and 10th ave...on my way home from work...and the smell of smoke was in my apartment for a while.
It must stink when someone lives on the fifth floor and a fire starts on the second floor.
yeeeees my company is arriving first, Engine 54, Truck 4, Batt 9 The Pride of Midtown :) thx to my bros for that call ! everything worked perfect
@gmcbuses I must disagree, if you shoot water into an opening thats venting, you push heat and fire back on to the victims and hinder any interior attack. Its good that the window is venting because the color of the smoke indicates the fire is starving for oxygen, notice how the smoke lights off when the air fuel mixture gets right. Let it vent, attack with a 21/2 from the hall door and push it out the window. The truck co. should be above checking for extension or victims.
@graves420fire Doubt it but it's possible. 10-75 comes with 4 Engines, 2 Trucks, 2 Bat. Chiefs, A Rescue, A Squad, and an additional ladder as a FAST truck. They can also request an additional 2 engines and ladders if they transmit an All-Hands operating. Any more units needs an additional alarm.
Greatest fire department in the world doing what they do best!
Couldn't have put it better. He's probably from one of those small towns where they have one fire company and only see 1 fire a year.
the biggest fire nyc saw was on 9.11 the largest loose of firefighters.
Horrifying to have to endure a fire like this. This is literally my worst nightmare. I wasn't even scared to go into combat but even the thought of going through this ,I can't put that fear into words. The men and women who willingly go into blazes to save life and property really are heroes and have my greatest respect.
I've got the FDNY Manhattan radio for this particular fire. It was in E54 and L4's first due originally put out for W48th & 10th Ave for a fire on the 2nd floor w/ multiple calls.
Strange to think 54 and 4 were first due would of thought tower 21 and whatever engine would of been first considering it’s in Hell’s Kitchen
What you saw in the beggining is how turbulant that smoke is the thinkness of it the volume and speed and then flames rollin out. Thats called flashover everything in a room reaches the ignintion temp and catches fire. Thats why smoke changed and also the flames began comin out faster
This just came up in FH Mag on line; question, should 54’s go past the entrance on the 4 side to let Truck 21 commit there also? Not sure how the fellas do things up there and this is not a negative comment but just curious…….Be safe Brothers!
Bless the fire fighters and the people who lived in that building. I couldn't help but wonder what it was that used to be painted on the side .....you could still faintly see the outlines.
Never. Flowing the hose through the window is a bad idea, when we open the hose up, water comes out, but it also pushes air out. If we put it through the window, we are not only feeding the fire, but pushing it through the building rather than stopping it. We need to go inside and push it out the window, instead.
Is this particular building equipped with standpipes, or was it a stretch job?
hand stretch
Is it a law where the store below would be ordered closed, until the apartments upstairs get fixed, even if the store received no damage?
I don't think there is any way the store on the ground floor would remain undamaged even if not affected by the fire itself. Water damage itself would likely destroy most if not all merchandise. In a fire of this type, multiple floors involved (with the number of apparatus arriving, this is at least a 3-alarm blaze) the structural integrity of the building itself could be compromised. It'd probably be quite some time before any part of the building would be occupied again.
Living rural i understand bars to keep the bad guys out but in a fire can you pop them off from the inside so you can escape? I dont see bars on these windows but i go to CCI on long island and doing the cross bronx every window is barred.
Was this an all hands. Defeinatly a 10-75 but there is still a shitload of sirens going.
superb interior attack and laddering/venting ''opening up''
Six minutes in and no sign of even attempting to extinguish, the US fire departments really need to get their priorities straight
+Jordan Durham Either you are a kid or trolling or you are very ignorant to how fire scenes are actually handled outside of the movies or TV. There is water on the fire within 3 minutes of the the first engine arrival, either way nobody including the FDNY really gives a shit about your horribly inaccurate, unqualified assessment, but of course everybody likes to play arm chair quarterback. Feel free anytime to come here to show the GREATEST dept in the world how you would handle this.
+Jordan Durham Let me guess. You live in the UK right? There always seems to be one tool coming on here beaking off about how amazing UK fire departments. I've watched some videos from there myself and haven't seen anything to be impressed by.
@TheGoalie213 All of these companies have radio's. If the first due truck had an issue with the first due engine setting up where they did, it would have been transmitted over the air and the resources relocated. First due companies are usually very familiar with their response area and this may have been the only hydrant close enough to make a quick attack on an obviously old structure with lots of fire potential and as you can see from later in the video, aerials can be extended where needed.
I watch this for inspiration. Everyone needs to watch our 1st Responders in action & hear THEIR side of various situations. Much love to our 1st Responders 💗💗💗💗
notice the guys on the first engine no panic just a time to work attitude your witnessing a dying art interior firefighting the fdny continues to set the bar great job from and keep on setting the standard fom local 1 pittsburgh
This is a great video! thanks for posting this.
man i could kiss you for posting this vid is i ever saw you,im a massive fan of america
exspecialy new york lol so this is what ny is like then hehe
Hi,
Did you ever hear what caused the Hell's kitchen fire?
I know that was awhile back.
I just saw the video for the 1st time.
Great job on the video,
apparently you were the only one that uploaded a video on it.
Wheres Tommy Gavin?
And here we see the first engine screwing the second main unable to put theirs up by stopping short and not moving past the structure.
At least it wasn't frozen
@firepower782 Fire does not think. That would of prevented flames, from moving up the side of the building more to the 3rd floor where it spread.
@umbroplus look at 1:01 and note the fire hydrant. The first engine co goes to the hydrant to connect.
I live some wjere with an fire range 30 minutes away -.- in the village is only one fire truck placed
there was a fire just now in a building near mme and the fire was actually outside the window too
Why wouldn't you put water through the window till the internal crews were in place then turn it off. Cool the place down, maybe prevent upward spread and maybe even put it out.
Fdny goes interior first..not enough man power to do both...its fast action baby
To the people videoing good job, also you both did not destroy the event by talking over it.
Good job..with observant comments
Incredible Video! thanks for posting it
Not the Whole Tanker in a window!! But years back SNORKEL fire appliances UK had one made. It had the extended Lance , which punched thru anything around 3 to 4 inches wide with variable Spray & then into Jet or even Both, spray first to kill the room , all controlled by the Ground and via Camera on Boom. ie water on room fire -s or Attics,in the matter of 2 minutes, and No risk to F/fighters, Back draft, or multiple Men on a roof
@firepower782 No it would of prevented the fire from going up the side of the building, to the apartment upstairs. Number 2 water douses fire.
Guess they going to let him stay in the building until the fire is out
@TheGoalie213 i think because those trucks are supposed to hook up to the hydrant...like the one they pulled up to...not sure tho
The STRONG response always given by the FDNY! Love it!
They got there in like thirty seconds, that's what I love about our fire department.
Thanks fr filming. All th bst,
It takes a Special person to be a Fire Fighter.
It looks like the guy in Ladder 21's bucket rescued someone.
@TheGoalie213 they cant give there ladder truck becouse he need more spase to prepare it.
Usually they use ladder truck to get firemens to other floor to rescue victims
Fastest aerial deployment i have ever seen 💪
Does anyone know what the full assignment of resources was for this incident ?
I think they may have given this two alarms, or maybe went with a 10-75 on it.......deffinately heard a bunch of second due rigs later in the video though
Looks like the OV from 21 truck did some nice work.. you can see him entering the FE with fire just starting to roll out the window. I'm sure he got atleast that bedroom done before the engine started their push. Nice work brothers
...ok who asked for a well done stake in Hell's Kitchen...?
You are very wrong. Rescue 2 is located in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn.
We all are drawn to burning fire. Yet it is wrapped in tragedy. Loss of living space, property and lives. In 1969 in knoxville , tn. I was listening to a shortwave radio set my father had gifted me from his return from tour in Vietnam. Dad had a very high fidelity stereo he had built himself. Brand new song playing " Age of Aquarius " fifth dimension. All sudden power went off. I ran downstairs to ask Dad what happened . Looked across street and seen flames shooting out neighbors house. Owner was backing out his 68 mustang away from his recreation room he was building. It cathartic to me. My Korean war/ Vietnam War Dad standing there while his older children gathered around to see if he could do something. Fire department response was 6 miles away. That day I got to see professionals attack the monstor/ destroyer of lives.
it would have a 1st. response for a 10-75 working fire 3 engines 2 trucks 1 battalion 1 rescue. apone arrival it would then for this call be transmitted a 10-75 all hand which bring in 2 more engines 1 ladder 1 fast truck 1 sat. unit 2 battalions 1 rac unit. but due to the size of the building they may have trans a 2nd alarm which bring an additional 3 engines 3 trucks 2 batt. 1 rescue 1 fast truck ems would be 1 als 2 bls rigs
A guy standing outside on the patio, fire excape, and not going down?? People always seem to amaze me🤔
I'm impressed with the fdnys back up that they got. The fire was almost out and they still had trucks coming.
No wonder why it is called Hell’s Kitchen. Just joking!
What are you willing to do for it
Yeah, that's what is seemed like. And it was an all hands fire so it was some serious bussniess, and I'm sure they weren't happy to see a bunch of people blocking them.
@Wa3ypx That guy they never did get him down before the video ended. With I said 4 days ago is they should of sprayed a stream of water against the wall above the window where it was venting. That would of prevented the fire from going up the wall to the apartment above, lighting the windowsill on fire.
5300 Liters (+) of Water? To the Windows? Are you serious?
The floor´s below would suffer a major water damage - this is not how a FD should work. We should try to decrease the damage and confine it to the Fire floor.
Thank you for your Service. Balls of Steel. God Speed
You see the black smoke coming out the window. Activate the pump and extinguish and cool the room through the window with a Booster line and Tank Water within one minute of arrival. Let's see how long the world's Heroes take. How long did that fire Threaten victims and the entering Heroes?
Im the guy on the balcony. Ill just stay here and be nosy as long as I can.
@denelson83 2nd floor, prolly a stretch job. you could stretch to most parts of that building pretty easy.
@longislandy the first due engine could have easily had access to that hydrant had they pulled up a few feet more and allowed the truck to sit on the corner.
Exactly why his under the window...he pulled up right next to the hydrant and left an entire lane open for the Truck
Great job by NYFD in saving the building and helping those people!
A fire engine supposedly carries 500 gallons of water. I do not see why one fireman could not of by 3:45 of the video, could not of pointed a hose toward that window, with the flames billowing out, attacking that fire.
City workers & all this congestion!!! Hell of a fire... Prayers for everyone 🙏
Good job recording. Did great