Dermatologist's Skin & Hair Care Routine - Medical Esthetician Reacts To Dr Dray's Skincare!
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2020
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Products Dr. Dray uses and what I recommend!
Dr Dray Uses: Ponds Cold Cream
I recommend these dupes:
Marcelle Cleansing Cream, Hypoallergenic and Fragrance-Free (Almost identical, but cruelty-free)
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Glow Recipe Papaya Sorbet Smoothing Enzyme Cleansing Balm (Slightly exfoliating, fragrance-free makeup dissolver) shop-links.co/171391503615661...
Pixi By Petra + Caroline Hirons Double Cleanser (A 2-in1 for those who wear heavy makeup) shop-links.co/171391517631826...
Aquanil Cleanser Soap Free Fragrance-Free Cleanser
I'd recommend:
Cleure Dermatologist Recommended Cleanser For Sensitive Skin amzn.to/3hSoGqA
Function Of Beauty Fragrance-Free Shampoo cen.yt/functioncassandra
Function Of Beauty Fragrance-Free Conditioner cen.yt/functioncassandra
Function Of Beauty Hair Mask cen.yt/functioncassandra
DML Lotion / Moisturizer
I'd recommend:
Biossance Omega Repair Cream shop-links.co/171391563447392...
Inkey List Snow Mushroom shop-links.co/171391568130051...
Honest Beauty Hydrogel Cream amzn.to/2D90SQp
Prescription Retinoic Acid
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Sleep Bonnet To Stop Hair Breakage: amzn.to/30e2Yr6
DRMTLGY Sunscreen with SPF 46 + Tint
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Colorescience Total Protection Face Shield SPF 50 amzn.to/33e9CiM
Colorscience Total Eye 3-in-1 Renewal Therapy SPF 35 : amzn.to/30hKGVT
Supergoop ZincScreen SPF 40 shop-links.co/171391553534327...
Vanicream
I'd recommend:
Supergoop PLAY Lip SPF shop-links.co/171391581633229...
Coola Mineral Tinted Liplux SPF 30 shop-links.co/171391585844310...
Elta MD Lip Spf 31 shop-links.co/171391596106046...
Wet & Wild Mascara shop-links.co/171391679823462...
Nivea Children's Sunscreen
I'd recommend:
Supergoop Sunscreen SPF 40 shop-links.co/171391553534327...
Biossance Squalane + Zinc Sheer Mineral Sunscreen SPF 30 PA +++
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MakePrem UV Defense Me SPF 50 amzn.to/3jWPs2Q
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You can't critisise someone's skincare routine for not being cruelty free. That's like reviewing a chef's recipe and saying 'I don't like it because it' s not vegan'. Okay... But they never said it was? You didn't talk about the actual food at all. You can say you'd prefer cruelty free. But that's a lifestyle choice. It has no relevance to the actual food/skincare (btw, I'm an advocate for cruelty free, I'm just pointing out the obvious flaw in that argument).
Thank you was just thinking the same thing.
Right? She might be vegan for health reasons.
Being vegan is an ethical lifestyle not a diet. She should not claim she’s vegan if she doesn’t use vegan products. She is then plant based not vegan.
This is coming from someone who is not vegan ☺️ I can just see how Cassandra as an actual Vegan would be a little annoyed by it because she frequently states she’s vegan to her audience but then contradicts her message by constantly using non vegan products
Yeah, also, Dr Dray is under no obligation to use “cruelty free” products (especially as that term is quite loosely defined) so this video is coming across as rude and entitled. I like her other videos but come on, berating people for not accomodating your preferences is ridiculous and turns even your audience off.
@@soniak2269 right on!
I'm a broke college student and I live in a 3rd world country, so a lot of the products you recommend just aren't accessible to me, and even if they were, I simply can't afford them. DR Dray's product recommendations however tend to be on products that are affordable, and accessible to me (brands like Cerave, La Roche Posay, Avéne, Neutrogena...) and they tend to generally work. What I like about Dr Dray's videos is other than the clear fact that they are educational and informative, she also favours doing the bare minimum to one's skin and she doesn't push using excessive amounts of products. I guess my main point is that while heeding ethical considerations is great and noble, you should also consider the fact that a lot of the products you show just aren't affordable nor accessible to some of your viewers.
where are you from?
The cost of a lot of cruelty-free products is prohibitive for a lot of people. It's awesome that Dray makes an effort to point out basic and inexpensive alternatives. I use a few things from the Ordinary that I really like. I don't know if that's an option for you but if not we do the best we can with what we have until things start to change :)
@@kaleidoscopeeyes1184 the thing is some of the ordinary products are in their purest form and cause breakouts for a lot of people and some are not recommended for dark skin people.Just watch Dr.Vanita Rattan's review on the ordinary.
Because of all these UA-cam self made skincare gurus I never bought the Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Wash with 2% Salicylic acid. They all said it was striping and too harsh to be used even on oily skin. Bruh after about ten "gentle/hydrating" washes for months, I finally risked buying the Neutrogena, And boy how wrong I was, it worked like a charm. My never ending toxic relationship with acne came to an end. I still have issues because of my hormones but it has done A LOT! that's when I realised all money wasted on ethical, sustainable, fair trade etc etc was doing nothing for me if it doesn't suit me. And guess who recommended the Neutrogena one 🤗 yes Dr.Dray.
I think Cassandra is pointing out more the lack of option for cruelty free, like, Dr Dray is recommrnding non cruelty free, but could ALSO give cruelty free option, but isn't.
$50 for a bottle of shampoo and conditioner is not affordable for the average person.
Who recommended it?
"bEcAusE itS cRueLty Free"
Lmao
most people use too much shampoo/conditioner anyway- a good bottle of shampoo with vitamins and everything should be at least $25 and should last you 3-6 months depending on how oily your hair gets naturally etc
@@sammi_spencer that may be for your hair but everyone has different hair types. Some people have more hair or less hair, some thicker and some thinner, some curly and some straight. My conditioner and shampoo would never last me that long because of how much hair I have and it’s texture. You’re experiences don’t reflect everyone’s
@@sammi_spencer I will use as much product on my body that I paid for as much as I want. That's just me. Seems to be a lot of know it alls on here who don't exactly know it all to begin with.
Dr Dray literally saved my skin! My skin is better now in my 40s than when I was in my 20s…I’m a mom of 5 so I can’t spend 100s on my skin care so I only buy products she recommends
With the eye sunscreen, she said she likes it because it acts as a concealer as well. Dr. Dray does not support the use of eye creams in general if you watch her videos.
And because most sunscreens can be irritating around the eyes so she uses that one bc it is free of certain ingredients
I was about to comment this. It has a peachy undertone which is amazing at concealing under eye circles.
I agree! Dr.Dray does mention in her videos that she uses tinted sunscreens in place of other makeup like foundation and concealer. People should not get so triggered by the mere mention of the word "eye cream".
@@paulaamin9834 which videos does she talk about this eye cream sunscreen?
I’m so annoyed at the fact she made those hand gestures mocking Dr. Dray (even if she wasn’t actually). She obviously was not listening to her or watched the rest of the video to make that comment. She was suggesting it as a concealer and a preventative, in no way do eye creams get rid of dark circles or wrinkles but that’s not what Dr. Dray was saying or vocalized. Like really she had to make those faces and then be like “she’s super right! But I’m surprised she chose that! Haha 🙂” came off super wrong
Aestheticians need to stop doing these videos on dermatologists. I’m a molecular biologist and I trained intensely for 8 years to do my job and have multiple years of experience.
When I finished my degree I felt very confident and qualified. After my masters, I realised that I wasn’t as knowledgeable as I thought I was. Now with a doctorate I’ve never been more humble. I’m as qualified as one can get in the industry and I realise now that we as people know very little. I remember my lecturer in the first year saying “you will become a scientist when you realise how much you don’t know. What I lacked after my undergraduate degree was critical thinking and the ability to apply science outside of the box.
That’s the sense I get with aestheticians when I see videos of them criticising Dermatologists or claiming that they are a in different field.
Sometimes people don’t know what they don’t know hence why they are overly confident to criticise people who are more qualified than they are without critical thinking.
Love this. The more educated I am, I more humble I become. There is so much we don’t actually know.
The criticism was mostly ethical I don't see any criticism from a scientific perspective, Mrs Bankson merely spoke about including cruelty free options in Dr. Dray's videos, which is reasonable and does not challenge any scientific or medical position Dr. Dray has expressed. Mrs Bankson is well aware and has mentioned before that she is not in a position to challenge Dr. Dray's medical knowledge, and she never has before. Did you actually *watch* the video?
While I don’t disagree with any of what you said, Cassandra focused on ethical critique which you do not need a doctorate to make a good case for.
Lio THANK you 🙄
Very well articulated
Dr dray is highly educated and I trust her!!
So stay on her channel!!
@@galesal1109Exactly! That's where the top quality content is!
Lol the audacity "I've been in the industry for 10 years"vs an actual medical professional who got a degree that took 6 years, did 1 year of internship in different hospital departments, 1 or more years of residency and 4 years of training before even becoming a dermatologist. And then add all the years of medical practice.
What do you mean?
@@NoraHusstad She means that Cassandra is only an esthetician and went to esthetician school while Dr. Dray is an actual doctor. Dr. Dray is a dermatologist and went to medical school for many years to get a degree as a dermatologist. And Cassandra has the audacity to say that she knows better than Dr. Dray about skincare, an actual expert with a degree in it.
Don’t forget Dr. Dray’s PhD on top of all of that haha
Lmao ikr
also she said she stays in the shower to do thinking! lets waste more water 🤣
If you wanted to make a video about cruelty free skincare you didn’t have to drag Dr. Dray into this. The fact that you started off the video saying she pisses you off lmao girl so unnecessary. Your privilege pisses me off.
Are you implying Dr Dray is not privileged? What? This isn’t punching down... and every video on this channel is about cruelty free skincare. There’s no access barrier for Dr Dray to access humane products. Rich people shouldn’t be buying the products she is.
I never once Implied Dr. Dray wasn’t privileged she’s a rich white woman but she also makes lots of videos on affordable skincare products. That’s not saying she doesn’t buy expensive products or only features affordable products. But doesn’t make reaction videos calling out people who don’t use all vegan products. Some of us can barely afford to go to target and buy cera ve.
ugh right! I was amazed at how proud of herself she was at "cruelty free" options to help animals but completely ignored ppl like me who are literally poor. The fact that she has the option to put her "money where her morals are" is a PRIVILEGE. And shes literally shaming anyone who doesn't have that privilege.
I totally agree...love dray
@@pooppoop3595 as much as I love animals I love people more
This is my biggest issues with the vegan community, you’re never vegan enough. It gets really annoying fast hearing ‘not cruelty free’ 1000x times. What does that even mean? Cruelty towards the animals? The workers in the factories? The workers who mine the raw material? There’s no way that stream is completely‘cruelty free’. :S Also like others already pointed out these items are super expensive, cheaper alternatives are a must.
Yeah, absolutely. Hearing her berate D Dray for what? Not accomodating her personal cruelty free preferences? Is ridiculous. You can try to spread the message but straight up berating someone for not following it comes across as rude and entitled.
It is also ironic that most vegan(not tested on animals) products seems to be more costly compared to the products that aren't vegan when people say left and right that currently we have enough technology to make products without having to test on animals. You'd think the process of testing the products on animals will take more time and money and thus will increase the pricing, but that doesn't happen. In addition, I have to agree with the cruelty free aspect of the term. There really isn't a clear guide to what it means legally and I personally will be disappointed if cruelty free only applies animals and not people cuz news flash, even if animals are important as well and your pets are too, human lives and the human friends you have ought to be more important.
msk so true!
Imagine that instead of animals, these were human babies... would you be saying the same? "oh how annoying you're already not eating the freaking babies, just let people be cruel and experiment on babies in peace" i bet you wouldn't :)
Lorena Felipe Rodríguez yes, but I find your argument invalid because it assumes I’d care about the animals. Like a great deal of vegans/animal activist you push the ethical side as though everyone has the dame set of ideals. You don’t have to repeat yourself 60000 times, we get it. This reply doesn’t answer my question though. What does cruelty free mean? Everything sold in the EU is already not tested on animals btw, which is a step in the good direction. But people in poor countries still suffer in the great scheme of things/stream of production, are they allowed to suffer?
I respect Dr. Dray because while she may be vegan she doesn’t push that on us and uses products that work for her and make sense. Just because your vegan and want cruelty free doesn’t mean everyone does or can afford it. We all have our own perspective, she isn’t wrong in using what she likes just as you are not wrong for using what you like. Skincare is not one size fits all.
Also "Cruelty Free" is NOT regulated or enforced by anyone. Companies can get away with misleading and deceiving cruelty-free claims because there are no standard or legal definitions for the term 'cruelty-free'. Sadly, the FDA does not regulate or monitor the 'cruelty-free' label so companies can use them in whichever way they want. There's a good article on this, look for _When The Claim ‘Not Tested On Animals’ Is Complete Bullshit_
by Suzana Rose
Lol talking about veganism and cruelty free options isn’t “pushing a narrative” on to someone. It’s speaking up about an issue that’s needs to be talked about. Lol
And no one said skincare is a “one size fits all” lol tha heck are you talking about ?
Hate to break to you but it is actually. Like the age old saying "you don't need to ask someone if their vegan because they will tell you!" @@rachemeatte6727
Dr dray’s whole platform is helping people find effective beauty products that everyone can afford and find at local retail outlets. Her platform is not cruelty free or “clean”, so if that’s really important to you she’s probably not for you. She has done several cruelty free videos, but it’s not her focus. Her focus is fragrance free, non-irritating formulas and the importance of sunscreen. I think it’s a little unfair to criticize her so intensely for something that just isn’t her platform.
But she’s vegan, and this is HER routine, not just a recommendation video. Just sounds hypocritical to be using products from brands that literally test on animals then claim to be vegan. I understand why some people would use them, price wise etc, but I’m sure she’s rich enough to afford more ethic products.
@@mandarina4157 i agree that it is hypocritical of Dr Dray from a personal standpoint, but her channel is really about education and showing how almost anyone can purchase good quality skin care products at an affordable price. Personally I find it refreshing that she doesn’t push her veganism onto everyone watching her channel though I’ve noticed in more recent videos she always includes a cruelty-free option at the end, usually at a higher price point. Also, if you watch this video you’ll see that it’s not just “oh she’s being a little hypocritical here” it’s a constant eye roll of criticism. I personally found it off-putting, even though I try to choose cruelty-free products myself.
@@mandarina4157 disagree.
@@mandarina4157 some vegans do not consume animal products, but still use them in other ways (like silk)
point is, it depends on how vegan they are
Someone who pays for animal exploitation isn’t vegan.
I don’t understand why these videos of people coming for Dr Dray keep being recommended to me. Dr Dray is professional, kind, drama free and honest. She doesn’t need to bash any other UA-camr in order to get views. Keep it classy Cassandra.
Totally agree Dr. Dry is professional. I love her advice.!
Dr Dray is great because she is a seasoned professional; isnt into trends; and is honest with no bells and whilstles.
I know right
And shows whats affordable but yet effective products!!
Seasoned professional? Where are her degrees? Where is her practice and how are her patients reviews of her? How often does she see them? If she cant be transparent about her practice (which I doubt she even has) then she needs to stop making ridiculous claims. Dr Pimple popper is completely open about everything, from the schools she went to, the degrees she has, and even featured patients (with their consent).
She's an influencer with a medical degree (and there's plenty of those all over UA-cam in every field you can imagine) 🤣
That’s why I’m subscribed to doctor dray, straight to the point and no bs!
@@JohnDoe-xr4bg exactly! she is a pro-ana site and today's video is about celery juice a known laxative. I cannot find her practice and no reviews either.
She is an MD & PHD. I just don’t agree with this video, Dr. Dray is so educated.
Really? She is PHD too?
@@jebberjeb phd in molecular biology from university of Colorado
Yes and she listens to her viewers she recommends products that provides quality, quantity in a very affordable price range...
The entire premise of this video is a moot point
You literally chose “The ONLY ONE person” on YT who is legite and helping people FOR FREE with REAL CERTIFIED skincare advice. Whatever you thought you were doing, its not cool.
PERIOD
Yeah she has apologised in a recent videos but this was mean and Cassandra has been mean a lot of times
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳
Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour?
So... 10 times a day?
Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 😂😂 as a Science student, I agree with that being true and I also was like omg 😱😂 when I found out
@@a.c.m.. oh so its true that spf 50 protects you just for an hour? But then would you agree about applying sunscreen every hour of your day?
I mean .... That would mean if you go to visit a friend just during the morning, you will have to stop every hour and apply cream on your face😅
Lets sy you go out from 10 to 2.
Its already 4.times.
Entire day could get to 15 times.
I am not sure how healthy our skin would be with this among of chemicals every hour.
I agree with making cream which arent natural hundred per cent but sunscreen every hours feels too much like going agaisnt nature to me.
I graduated Pre-Med at UCLA and will be attending Med-School this month. As an aspiring doctor... I’m speaking up for all of us. Your condescending behavior is not cool. Becoming an esthetician is no where near the amount of work as becoming a doctor. You’re giving yourself way too much authority to judge a respected DOCTOR on a biased level. You’re pushing your morals and ethics during this “critique” instead recommendations based on FACTS BACKED BY ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC STUDY.... This is just poor taste. You should take this down. I seriously have second hand embarrassment for you.
As a healthcare worker, I cringed while watching her videos. She obviously does not understand how we work in the healthcare industry.
Chat B. I totally agree!!!
As a 3rd year medical student... EXACTLY
Can't help but thinking bout Ben Shapiro's "facts don't care your feelings"
More like "facts don't care your vegan moral and ethics"
I have to agree picking on Dr Dray because she isn't using only vegan products shouldn't be a picking point. It should be that the products are good, affordable and facts focused.
It actually "pisses me off" you are recommending products not only double the price but triple. Do you realize that a lot of the people who are watching free videos of a DOCTOR is because they cannot afford paying to see one to begin with? I do not even know what being "compassionate" means anymore in this time...
Exactly!!! There are so much cheaper alternatives!!
I swear esthetician’s die when they see a BASIC routine without a lot of additives or extra crap. Her routine is PERFECT FOR HER and it’s INFORMATIVE TO US. Why she would pretend to find any problem with her routine is beyond me and probably just more ad revenue.
Exactly, plus I am pretty sure Dr. Dray's and Cassandra's population are completely different. Even though Dr. Dray is vegan herself, she is professional and very prudent when it comes to recommending products to help her audience, contrary to making a video with clickbait for viewers. So this video is a little embarrassing to be honest.
@MI LO I see your point but people have different priorities. Being compassionate basically is being able to sympathise and empathise for something or someone other than you and that someone/thing can by anything and anyone. Personally I put emphasis on anyONE rather than anyTHING to put it bluntly. Humans over animals.
Or people who refuse to buy in to the lies of these natural companies
This video is like watching a Pre-Med student commenting on a Surgeon.😁😂
DEDDD I CAN'T THIS SHOULD BE UPVOTED
HAHAHAH OMFG YEAH
@@juicysmolliette2852 big time
Exactly
obviously this esthetician who studied 6 mos to work her job is antagonizing a dermatologist to get views. since we are commenting on her video, she is getting the attention she wants for her channel
The more I see of Cassandra the more I am starting to become frustrated at the gimmicky push she gives for “cruelty free.” If people would please look into “cruelty free” they would see it almost does not exist. Also, what do you take issue with? Treatment of workers in factories? The workers who mine the raw materials? Where does cruelty end? There’s no way that products are 100% cruelty free. Or do you take issue with animal testing? Which is NOT how these “influencers” make it out to be. As a researcher, and specifically a neuroscientist, from a safety standpoint you want products that will not be harmful in the long run. If not for animal testing, we would not have the studies that have been published indicating which ingredients are harmful to humans whether it be topically, or carcinogens, etc. Also, research performed at academic institutions or otherwise are performed according to IACUC standards where a group of researchers, veterinarians, and everyday citizens will review the research protocols that are proposed to ensure animals will not be exposed to undue suffering, meaning care is taken to minimize any pain or suffering to the animals. If there is pain or suffering to the animals and the research is not impactful, the studies do not happen because the IACUC protocols are not approved. Also, as a researcher who performed neuroscience research on rodents, at our AALAC accredited institution, veterinarians check the animals daily to ensure they are healthy, are not exhibiting pain, etc. Any rat that is exhibiting any health issues are treated appropriately. Also animals are used for as many studies as possible to maximize research and minimize the number of animals used. There are guidelines that are followed by the institution with the care of animals, and if they are not followed, the veterinarian will report the researcher to the NIH, and their NIH funding and ability to conduct research will be revoked. Researchers cannot get away with unapproved harming of animals without serious repercussions, and there are many checks and balances in place, so people should educate themselves and realize that this fear mongering whether it is by influencers, brands or even PETA (don’t get me started on how unethical this organization/thing is) is typically a marketing/sales ploy.
Yes to allllll of this!
Why is this not a top comment?? If I could like one comment in particular several times, then I would have done it for this comment.
Someone with a brain and actual knowledge. Please, speak of this more online because there aren't many ways for people to know this. Start a blog or something similar where you share this info! Greenwashing and marketing ploys have gone too far.
Yessss!!! Finally someone said it
Yes 👏🏼 💯 thank you for saying that. She was really starting to annoy me in this video
Dear Cassandra,
1. Dr. Dray has mentioned several times that she only has a plant-based diet and never identifies herself as a true vegan. Why does she have to recommend vegan alternatives for products when she doesn't really identify herself as a vegan? (No wonder we vegans get so much hate.)
2. Dr. Dray has already said in a few of her videos that - according to her, there isn't enough evidence to prove that chemical sunscreen filters actually damage coral reefs and that several of those studies actually have massive loopholes. Hence, she doesn't feel the need to stop using filters touted as being dangerous for the reefs.
3. Dr. Dray has also repeatedly mentioned that just because she's using a product currently doesn't mean she would recommend it to others. She gets sent a shit load of products to try (like all UA-camrs do) by companies, subscribers, in subscription boxes, etc. and she tries to use up as many products as possible because just throwing it away for not being vegan/free of irritating ingredients/unethical is wasteful and way worse for the environment than using a product/brand you don't really agree with.
These are just my two cents - no offense intended. I really didn't want to comment but I felt like I needed to this time.
Also Dr Dray has done at least 2 videos where she boxes up heaps of 'gently' used & brand new skincare & she sends it to women who are living in shelters because of various kinds of abuse & she briefly talks about each brand as she's packing it. I found them to be very interesting even though I'm in the UK & many of them aren't available here (or weren't then). But how nice for those women getting some fab skincare to use & call their own. Some walk in with nothing but the clothes on their backs. She's very kind & thoughtful.
@@junedaisy707 Not totally right. I actually went back & watched one & she put things in that she had a few of & said she would buy some more for herself but let's face it a huge amount of women buy skincare & have no idea of the ingredients, they just go by what the assistant says to them or the way the brand has designed the containers. It's a lot better than just throwing it all away. What would you honestly do if you were in her situation?
@@junedaisy707 Have you watched the videos that we are talking about?
This was such a respectful comment in a sea of rabid dr stay stans lol It's definitely more ethical to just use products that you have vs. throwing them out, however she's still contributing to the sales of a product that is not cruelty free or vegan, and people take Dr dray's word for gospel sometimes. So I can understand why a vegan would find that unethical. Overall imo Cassandra has a point, if Dr Dray could at least just recommend a cruelty free option next to the products she uses and recommends it would be nice and helpful for her viewers! I'm not even a vegan or strictly CF user but there are options out there and it'd be nice to see a prominent skincare figure be a bit more inclusive!
@@THExBREAKFASTxMONKEY I'm a vegan myself but personally don't see any need for a non-vegan dermatologist to go out of her way to use/recommend vegan alternatives in her own skincare routine. She's a medical professional and can be expected to recommend products that are tried and tested on herself or patients - instead of random vegan options she doesn't even use or believe in.
This might just be me but when an incredible dermatologist goes out of her way to offer the world free skincare advice, I gladly take what I can get (and implement as per my own strict vegan standards) instead of questioning her PERSONAL lifestyle choices and morals. It would be extremely hypocritical of me to expect a non-vegan doctor to provide vegan options when the information is being provided free of cost. I would only feel ENTITLED to vegan options if I were paying a dermatologist to recommend them.
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I heard that it was linked to their due formula, but hair naturally falls out. I have a significant amount of hair that falls out because of how long I wait in between shampoos. I’ve also heard most people say it made them decide to wait a longer period of time in between the shampoos which can increase the amount of hair that comes out. Also how often you brush ur hair and so on. So many different factors play in to that as well. Hope that helps a lil bit!
Hailey Jay thanks for your input! 😊
Wow, this is shocking and I actually really appreciate you bringing this up - I have heard of this from other companies such as Diva curl or Monet, but never from function of beauty is Ash if you have any links that I could look into, I am more than happy to look into this, do some research, and followed up with a non-sponsored post discussing it!
I hope you know that even when posts are sponsored I remain brutally honest and upfront throughout the whole thing, that being said I haven’t seen any hair loss personally. At the same time, this is worth looking into and I appreciate you bringing it up!!
This happened to me!!!! I chose it because it offered sulfate free dye free and scent free and even a silicone free option. But it made my hair try tangly and a mess. It’s not necessarily worth it. It lets you choose 5 hair goals but there are no restrictions. Chemically it doesnt make sense for it to claim to respond to each of these goals individually.
Im over the hype
The fact that you felt qualified to critique a board certified dermatologist is absolutely adorable. Bless your heart.
@Yamnihc Ebmilaw I had to look this up to know if you are correct bc I'm not an expert and... "While both focus on the skin, dermatologists are medical doctors that specialize in skin health and treatment. Estheticians, also called skincare specialists, focus primarily on the appearance of the skin. While estheticians certainly help their clients maintain healthy skin, they don’t have the medical training or knowledge to advise beyond esthetics"
@@ladynanshi truee sir ...
Love this comment
She still works with them don't you think that's a lil rude..
Lol not all doctors are equal,nor clear of criticism. But way to go in your poorly thought out comment; hopefully you are never subjected to a bad doctor
"Coconut oil, olive oil, vegetable oil...."
Gurl no. I'll stick with Ponds cold cream, mineral oil is not bad
And also, coconut oil and olive oil are a lot more expensive than Ponds, at least in my country.
Mineral oil breaks me out while coconut oil doesn’t, for example. And I only use it as my eye makeup remover not for the whole face! :)
I've been using mineral oil (baby oil) as a makeup remover for years and it is the best EVER. It removes waterproof mascara effortlessly and my stubborn foundation so easily. And I use a salicylic acid foundation so you know that stuff is like a tattoo on your face lol. But I will give micellar water a try since it's popular. I've used countless makeup removers and nothing holds a candle to mineral oil so far. Of course, it's only amazing as a first step before cleansing, it really lifts everything from the skin.
I tried using coconut oil to remove makeup seeing UA-cam and i got those little face bumps on my face.
Olive oil blocks pores... 😬
Honestly, I decided to watch this out of curiosity to see how you broke down an actual DERMATOLOGIST skin care routine. The reason so many people love & respect Dr. Dray is her ability to recommend so many affordable skincare products that actually work. Her channel has grown exponentially in a short time for that reason.
Unfortunately your recommendations are generally very pricey and based only on your ethical views. It is your channel and therefore your choice as to what to promote.
As one of the few actual DERMATOLOGIST on UA-cam many of us love her advice on skincare!
@Rache; Meatte Thank you for the input...,
She really could have recommended more affordable products, but there are some cruelty free options available in stores like Walmart and Target at reasonable prices.
Notice how what she used is very affordable and what you recommended was much more expensive. I understand that you have your morals and ethics but I think Dr. Dray was focusing more on the fact that her viewers might be on a budged and can’t drop 30 dollars on each product
This !! I think the reason why everyone is coming for her neck in the comments is because she’s speaking from a place of moral superiority and it’s gross lol.
And also, most of the products Cassandra are hard to find in my country or 3x more expensive, for example, the ordinary is generally a lot more expensive in my country, their peeling solution costs like 7.5 dollar last time I checked, while in my country the cheapest I’ve been able to find the product is at almost 25 dollars. And that’s just without taking in to account the fact that in my country the minimal wage is of around 250 dollar per month and most people don’t even reach that minimum wage. So while I appreciate what she stands for and while I try to use mostly cruelty free products, we shouldn’t judge people for using them, no one knows what the other is living through.
as much as i love Cassandra, she often refers to products that are $30-$40 dollars as "affordable"... like girl... I cant even afford the product if its $20!!! it has to be 15 dollars or less, for my income...
Because its ad 😂
@Noor and for someone that makes such a fuss about morals and transparancy perhaps she should mention that she does make a commission of people that buy when they follow the link
I'm glad the majority of the comments are in support of Dr. Dray 👏🏾 you really thought you could come for a real one but it backfired horribly 🤦🏾♂️🤣
Petrolatum/mineral oil is non-comedogenic, hypoallergenic and protective. I really wish people would stop bashing this ingredient.
Cassandra is anti oil while she makes UA-cam videos on a camera and computer that is made from oil product,
@@ProfessorGothic skin care and fuel. Same thing...
Dermatologists recommend mineral oil because it's anallergic, while vegetal ones aren't, doesn't go rancid and is a good barrier for skin. Dr. Dray too talked about this on a video.
I love that you brought this up because I have skin that’s so sensitive that the only moisturizer I can use is mineral oil based. I’m allergic to latex, salicylates and benzenes and oxalates so plant oils are NOT compatible with my skin. Acting like coconut oil or vegetable oils are just as good as mineral oil is hella privileged and extremely uninformed.
I know absolutely nothing about skincare and I really don’t like Cassandra’s tone here, but for some reason, mineral oil breaks me out in cysts, I have no idea why. Ugh.
Haunted Mushrooms ASMR could just be too heavy for your skin? I’m not sure, sorry. I can only use mineral oil products for the most part but my skin has severe allergies. Maybe your skin is allergic to it? Because the allergic reactions I get are cysts and hives. If that sounds familiar then it could be an allergy 😬
Jen Green Aw thanks for the reply!! It might be too heavy for me, it’s such a shame because it works so well for so many people! I guess I might be in the very tiny minority who has an allergy! Damn! Thanks anyway!
but why are you so condescending? I am very tired of estheticians thinking they know more than dermatologists.
I think aesteticians have ego issues.
"Pissing me off "- because of the vegan options. I can't help this is over the top. Dr Dray said "oil based cleanser". If there isn't a vegan choice, a consumer can Google vegan cruelty free oil based cleanser. This aestheticism doesn't realise that people watching Dr Dray have the ability to also think for them selves.
I consider myself a liberal but.... This women is bloody insane.
@raymond ron constructive criticism often doesn't come with a side of attitude and undertones are really disliking someone else. Constructive criticism comes with respect and a desire to help out someone in your field. Constructive criticism does not mock, it does not rant, it does not deviate from points initially made and go off at length on other points indicating miscommunication.
Science has its faults, yes. But constructive criticism in any industry can be handled with at least a modicum of respect and what I've already mentioned. Pulling faces and mockery and every thing else you see (being socially aware and having a general amount of EQ, you can see the mannerisms and undertones in this video, I think most people pick up in these things.)
So it's very easy to see that actually this aesthetician either really disliked Dr Dray, and/or dislikes people who have "proper" qualifications in the industry. She clearly has a chip in her shoulder about being an aesthetician. And that's HER problem to sort out herself, it shouldn't be made clear in a really unprofessional way like this.
I probably would be condescending towards someone too if they were promoting abuse towards animals. Actually I get pretty pissed off and extremely sad when animals are tortured, abused, and killed...but that's just me.
@@Newuser000 no need for the snark. Dr Dray didn't exactly outwardly say: buy products tested on animals. She gave options based on the effect on the skin. And price.
You have a voice - you wonderfully demonstrated and shared this, and it's fantastic! And don't forget : everyone has their ability to choose. I prefer cruelty free vegan products too.
But that doesn't mean as soon as I watch Dr Dray, I become brainwashed. I stick to my ideals and my preferences and I use my critical thinking skills - as you yourself just demonstrated - to say : okay, I'll look out for a product like this. Or with this ingredient, or a product that has a similar function to what Dr Dray is talking about.
So, yes it's a shame that Dr Dray doesn't mention purely CF and vegan products, but remember, others that watch her may not have the financial ability to choose CF, Vegan products. BUT. For those that do. We can use her skincare advice and apply her facts when we are browsing for products that fit our own ethics and morals. First and foremost Dr Drays job is advising us on skincare. Not about ethics. (Yes, others mention both. But that's out of choice. Some people don't like having political or ethical discussions on social media).
Remember, you have a voice, others have their voice. And the best way to use it (in terms of products) is to vote with our money, choose to buy CF and vegan products. Outside of that, researching politicians and their stance on animal and human rights and their voting history, and then voting in elections, is another way to use our voice.
I’m an Esti and I feel the same way. These UA-cam Esthetician’s are annoying
The privilege and classism in this video is astonishing.
Yeah she is acting like the “I am nice but I am really mean” high school girl
Yea seriously this video wasn't it.
Welcome to veganism.
How is it privilege and classism? The products she recommends are usually affordable, and not tested on animals, unlike.... And classism?? lmao chiile, I would love your perspective on this xD
Not sure if you watch the same video we all did
THIS GURL JUST RECOMMENDED VEGETABLE OIL YALL-
She’s an MD you are not . She has went through 4 years of college , 4 years if medical school , 4 years of residency , followed by a fellowship in dermatology . 13-15 years of schooling and training .
You forgot YEARS in the field, too. The balls Cassandra has
Cassandra like most influenza estheticians specialise in steaming faces and extracting pimples. No more than that.
EXACTLYYU
THANK YOU that doesn’t include the additional years of experience she has in the field outside of fellowship. And Cassandra has “10 years in the field”. The expertise doesn’t come close
@raymond ron it’s such a valid point. It’s such a deeper understanding of cellular biology, organic chem and molecular science that an estheticiansimply does not get in the small amount of schooling . It’s a difference and valid point. Doctors aren’t perfect nor always right. But still an astronomical difference
Dr. Dray has given me hope for my skin. It’s affordable for me because I am a single mom I am a six. She is a dermatologist that has saved my skin and my money.
Same I suffer from pcos and cystic acne and back acne my skin hasn’t been this clear since I was a kid
wow a mom of *six?* props to you ♥️
Saying “But if you want to spend more money on products!” in that snarky tone after you just spent 25 minutes recommending much more expensive products than what she was using is so hilariously hypocritical
I rolled my eyes so many times in this video.
I rolled my eyes reading this comment of yours
She sounds so entitled
Cruelty free for morale 😂
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳
Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour?
So... 10 times a day?
Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 who? sorry i didn't watch the video lol. but that's not how it works, it is recommended to reapply all sunscreen of all spf levels around every 2 hours when outside. when indoors, try to go for that point, but it's more reasonable to reapply every 3-5 hours indoors.
Unfortunately most of the products you’ve recommended are expensive. Super goop is expensive compared to other sunscreens. I get where you are coming from, I’m a vegan my self and love animals.But Dr Dray looks at skin care products from a physician point of view. Unfortunately I have found my self that many vegan skin care products are loaded with essential oils that are highly irritating to the skin, needless to say pricey.
the ordinary is vegan and their products are not loaded with essential oils tho :) cosrx, purito and klairs are cruelty free and mostly vegan too and many products are really affordable, they have fragrance free options (especially on yesstyle)
Sophie , unfortunately the ordinary sells what is considered to be raw skin care products, meaning, each product contains a single ingredient required in a skin care formula that will benefit your skin care. For instance, niacinamide or Ascorbic acid in their purest states without any other additives. The Ordinary is giving the consumer the job to play the roll of chemist as the application of some of these ingredients alone will cause severe irritation. There is a reason why skin care pharmaceutical companies hired chemist to measure the ratio of ingredients before putting a product in the market.
ELF is all vegan and has some skin care options. Jason and Dessert Essence have fragrance free options. Inkey list and The Ordinary are also cruelty free. I know it can be hard to find so let's support each other in finding cheap vegan options!
Fenty has a new sunscreen/moisturizer and it’s around $35 and the bottle is huge which makes it worth the price in my opinion also adding the fact that it doesn’t have a white cast. I’m not sure if the ingredients are cruelty free or vegan friendly so you would have to look it up.
Try the Ordinary :)
One of the things I love about Dr. Dray is she openly states she won't do reaction videos because she doesn't feel it's right to judge or comment on someone else's routine. It's probably part of the oath: First do no harm.
we love our mature, wholesome and drama free queen dr. dray 😌💜
Greetings Natalie V. hope u r well n so Agree with u.... Dr. Dray is A Real Treasure n I so Appreciate All of Her Hard Work😀👍💜....
lol that is so passive aggressive, I'm sure her oath also applies when Dray is selling me headbands. She's more of a influencer than an actual doctor.
I'd love to know how her practice is doing, what her patients reviews of HER are, and does she even work as a doctor or is her real job UA-cam?
John Doe i believe she has her own practice in houston
@@nataliev7070 oh? By all means link her practice, if she's going to be waving her medical license like it's gospel then we all need to see what type of doctor she is, her patient reviews on her and beside manners. If she wants to keep that private then she can have a seat, because Dr. Pimple popper is very open about her practice and even featured patients of hers (with their consent)
This video reminds me of the time Susan Yara boasted that she could go head to head with Dr Sandra Lee 🤦 Both Susan and Cassandra are way out of their league here.
Lmao I eat vegan, am in medical school, and use cerave, cetaphil, and drugstore products. I also take several medications that are not vegan! She has her MD and PhD, like come on.
Sunscreen is very expensive when you're applying it three times a day.
Monique McCain especially on days when you don’t even go outside.
you only need to reapply it that much if you're actually outside for long hours
skeletondance no you should re apply at least three times no matter what, unless you live in a windowless box
Mark's World if you’re sitting by a big window all day that’s different, then yeah reapply because you can literally feel the uv rays. But if you’ve got curtains and you’re not going outside again then no you don’t have to. Use your logic.
And ruins makeup
Funny how an esthetician thinks she knows more than a dermatologist
Am I right, its wack!!!
Well, she does. Does Dray even practice anymore. Can't find a license renewal if it exists.
@@susanc9525 Dr dray is board certified she studied for 12+ years for her title, she's a lot more truth worthy than some youtube beauty guru
@@fashionovawigs that's not what Susan meant. Even though I trust Dr. Dray, you have to get your license renewed, skin care science is literally changing every week, new things are discovered. So if you were a dermatologist 5 years ago but havent been renewing your license you might be a tiny bit outdated on your knowledge. Of course you can always learn on your own as a professional without the license and just use your background knowledge to guide you to the right directions, but we should be careful regardless. Skin care advice from 2 years ago from a professional will not be as effective as advice from a pro today.
@@fashionovawigs she hasn’t renewed her license.
I personally love Dr. Dray, just discovered her channel recently. I have followed Cassandra for years and I love her as well. My problem with this video (and I'm being objective) is that first of all Cassandra isn't a board-certified Dermatologist and second of all, I strongly dislike the fact that people push their views and morals and people so much, I think it's such a disservice to the Vegan community. Wish more people would understand that. You should lead by example and be respectful of others. I don't think Cassandra had bad intentions because she does seem genuine but she has to realize and understand how that comes off. I don't think she is in the position to be telling everyone how to be vegan, what's acceptable and what isn't, etc. Apart from that I just don't like the comments she had to make on a lot of the products that Dr. Dray mentioned. If Cassandra truly watched her videos she would realize that Dr. Dray recommends them for a reason and always talks about the fact that certain natural products (sometimes vegan products) have ingredients that are irritants and are not the best for the skin, Dr. Dray knows her stuff so I just think it's silly that Cassandra is acting like in a way she knows more. Being objective and real, I just don't think she is qualified to speak like she is at the level of Dr. Dray professionally. I don't think people are being 'negative' in the comments, I think we're just expressing what seems obvious in this video.
Dr Dray mention it before in a couple of her videos she don’t often recommend vegan or cruelty free brands because a lot of them are nonsensical by adding a bunch of extract and essential oil, natural or clean. I rmb she mentioned it in her Ceramedx video. She sometime will sprinkle cruelty free products if they also fragrance free and affordable and she is aware of them.
She mentions them all the time. Did you know "Cruelty Free" is *NOT* regulated or enforced by anyone? Companies can get away with misleading and deceiving cruelty-free claims because there are no standard or legal definitions for the term 'cruelty-free'. The FDA _does not regulate or monitor the 'cruelty-free' label_. Companies can use them however way they want. See article: _When The Claim ‘Not Tested On Animals’ Is Complete Bullshit_ by Suzana Rose. If she wants to go after anyone, go after *the companies*, not Dr Dray.
Dr dray typically isn’t a fan of eye creams and thinks they’re useless. It looks like the only reason she’s using that product is because she’s basically using it as a concealer. So it’s not that it’s an spf or cream just for the eyes, it’s that she’s using the tint as a concealer, and because it has sunscreen & is more of a tint. she probably prefers that to an actual under eye concealer.
Yes exactly! I don't think that Dr Dray likes makeup. The only real makeup item that she uses is mascara, but other than that she uses tinted sunscreen as "foundation" which is kinda funny to me bc I used to wear a lot of makeup (typically concealer) to get some coverage for my pimples, and tinted sunscreen barely does anything. I like the point you made because context is everything!
Exactly. Shes said this multiple times that she doesnt think eye creams make a useful difference.
She use it because its free product from companies and fans
Girl, Dr Dray is more qualified than you. She knows what she’s talking about. I am not saying that you have no knowledge but you keep repeating the same things over and over again. Be humble, change that tone and stop criticizing other people’s choices !
+1
Soukaina Zoubir it is that Cassandra feels a know it all
Ikr imagine judging a dermatologist lmao🤡
Exactly like mrs.dray got a PhD and she has the audacity to criticize her!!!
👏👏👏
She’s a dermatologist and you’re not so I trust her over anything you say.
Well Dont watch her videos...
I really respect cassandra a lot but when she celebrates things being "GMO free" like a Karen I just can't lol.
As a geneticist and molecular biologist I work with GMOs and there is just absolutely zero reason for why everyone demonizes it. Especially not by categorically saying they are something you wouldn't want. Hhhhh this makes me so angry
Well, dr dre brought it up xD
@@davidmiranda4745 you really seem to be in love with everything Cassandra says. You don't seem to be able to stand any criticism of her.
@@aesinam Wait, in that case, I'm in love with what both Cassandra and Dray says. They both say it xD Did you watch the video? :P
The more I learn about cruelty free beauty the more I realise it almost doesn’t exist, especially on the sustainability front. I enjoy a lot of your content but i find this video slightly hypocritical.
That's what I always said!!! Cruelty free is just not 100% possible in this world. It just isn't and will never be. With that in mind, it's still important that products are not tested on animals and stuff like that, but there is no need to get obsessed over it. I agree :)
Samanta Rizzi I’m not saying it’s impossible, it very much is possible and unfortunately companies that aren’t necessarily currently cruelty free are the ones who have the funds and resources to try and prove to places such as China that have a ‘list’ of tested ingredients to consider finding alternatives for testing. but I’m not going to judge someone for recommending a product that’s good and affordable, it’s more important to recognise when someone’s using fear mongering. It’s such a fascinating but equally frustrating industry especially in America that’s so behind Europe in terms of science and regulations.
@@Gresaaa It's not possible. Again think about where those ingredients come from? Plants? Where do plants grow? In the fields .. so for making those fields what are they doing? They have to make room for it, that way some animals lose their homes, some get killed during this (think about how they cut trees from the forest in order to make room to plant plants that will give the right ingredients to then gain profit with them)... so even if it's a natural ingredient there is no way it could be 100% cruelty free. Nature doesn't work like that. You can have whatever opinion you want I know I'm right about this because we studied these things in school. Obviously Europe is better at the regulations, but we're far from being perfect when it comes to animals and nature! (I'm from Slovenia)
skeletondance i don’t know it’s just me but where i live there’re many affordable cruelty free vegan products, that are qualified as those 2 for many reasons and have reusable packaging that u can donate for them to recicle
@@samantarizzi248 it absolutely is possible... 😂😂 you both sound ignorant and uniformed. period.
I want to see the doctor evaluate your skin care routine now 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly.
Greetings Maya hope u r well n so Agree with u n She should Remember that Dr. Dray is a Real Dermatologist n Knows Her Stuff💯😀👍....
Whitney Brown she really does!!! Cleared up my entire eczema and Dr. Dray doesn’t even know it :)
Maya * she cleared up a lot of my pcos cystic acne too 🥺
She also helped clear up 99% of my acne after I screwed it up by using too many products and having to wear a face mask for over 8 hours.
Is funny how you call yourself an "expert" when you are about to react to a professional who actually is expert in this field: an actual dermatologist.
There is no more expert when it comes to skin than dermatologists, and "medical aestheticians" are way below their level of knowledge, quite the corage to refer to yourself as an expert while criticizing dr Dray in the same video, wow
We are licensed notice how she didnt say she was a physician. I myself am an esthetician and know a lot of what dermatologists know. I recommend products based on your current routine. I wont make you buy expensive things, I recommend things both on an esthetician level and a dermatologist level. It all depends on your budget. You hire me to help YOU. I have done many skin treatments that have actually worked and healed my clients acne and made it go away rather than use medications that change the DNA. Stop sitting on us like you know how to do our job.
@@melaries1823 I happen to know, and the fact that you 2 even try to compare your tiny knowledge to a PHD dermatologist is extremly offensive for anyone in this field except for rock bottoms like you who are frustrated for being the lowest tier and want desperately to feel superior but you are still the far bottom of this field, do not compare yourself to even a dermatology bachelor ffs, your knowledge compared to it is 0.0001%, but to a PHD dermatologist? You are off charts literally, your knowledge doesnt even reach 0.0000001%, dont be so full of yourselves when all you know is flat out basics. And you say you know "a lot" of what dermatologists know? You think dermatologists spend way more years of studying and have actual degrees because they study the same than you at a slower pace or what? You know the pure basics, that is NOT "a lot", your tiny knowledge is not even comparable. If you think you are on pair with the degrees I invite you to take the tests and get your own phd, but you just can NOT pass with your current lack of education.
You are comparing qualification level 8 (the highest most specialized and advanced) with level 4 (SOME factual knowledge in BROAD contexts), and these qualification frames convert to the same proportional equivalents all around the world, her phd will always be the highest most advanced and your... *cough* not even bachelor, will always be some tiny knowledge in a very broad topic, so please don't make laugh
@@flyingcloud2677 oh please stop with that dermatologist Bs. If they were so great, they would have effectively helped my acne. I went to four of them and they weren’t able to properly help me. The third one even worsened my situation.
But the first aesthetician that I went to (out of despair ) was the starting point of me healing.
I don’t care that derms have the "science" and go to school for 10+ years. If you’re not able to help your patients, you’re worthless. I don’t trust them anymore.
Because of my experience, I pick Cassandra over dr Dray any day (whose skin is not beautiful to me btw)
@@dimitrifranck exactly. What they recommend makes my clients skin flare the heck up. But when I make recommendations based on what they are currently doing, I come up with skincare treatments which ultimately help them in the end. I am certified in many machines that dermatologists cannot use in fact. Why are we more successful in treating their acne then? Why do dermatologist have estheticians? Get over it with the phd bullshit.
@@flyingcloud2677 if you think that then why do dermatologist have estheticians in their practice? We do more of the actual skincare treatments then actual dermatologist do. We use machines that they cannot use, and are not certified in. My treatments actually work because I don't recommend products that make my clients skin flare up the minute they use it. Dermatologists are not successful in most cases so they send them to the estheticians. I dont give two shits about a phd or not I know what the hell I am doing. I studied my ass off, I did my training and had many jobs behind a dermatologist. So sit down with that and worry about yourself and stop judging other peoples jobs. No one cares about your opinion because they are not facts.
I think Dr. Dray says plenty about cruelty free and Vegan products. Dr. Dray just doesn't leave out the other products that still works. She gives a balanced view cause not everyone cares about cruelty free or vegan products, some people just want something that works. This lady needs to chill, Dr. Dray has her own way of explaining these products.
I'll take Dr. Dray's advice any day. She breaks down individual products that are affordable and keeps it simple. She is more than qualified as a dermatologist.
Than why has she been a non-practicing dermatologist for almost a decade???
@@MSUSPARTANS1973 Where are you getting that from?
@@darryl2542 I’ve answered this question several times already.
@@darryl2542she’s literally mentioned it multiple times on her channel
@@MSUSPARTANS1973 she only does UA-cam then or where does she work?
Dr Dray recommends affordable products. Cereave has literally saved my skin & it's not expensive.
And made my skin bad 😂 (Cereave) but skin is different so 🤷🏼♀️
And Cassandra is only pointing out her thoughts. Nothing more to force you buy what she uses.
Maybe is good for your skin, but just sooo painful and deadly for animals!
Just be a bit of compasion, could change animals life for the better!
Cassandra also recommends cheaper products then cera ve but you have never watched her have you?
@@arixxa7065 The obsessive Dr. Dray fans attack anyone who questions Dray. It's so tiring and creepy!
i’m gonna go ahead and say what basically everyone else is saying, but i feel the need because i looked up to you in such a short time span.
i started watching your videos maybe two months ago when i started getting horrible acne and wanted to become educated on skincare. you and dr dray have both helped me so much but i am extremely poor and really desperate for things to take away my acne, your recommendations are overpriced big time.
and saying dr dray is “basic” is a little low, yes there is products with actives and she’s talked about those before, but for people like me- with acne prone skin, not all of us respond well to actives, my skin got so much worse after using actives, even after the purging should’ve already ended. since then i’ve stuck to a basic cleanser and moisturizer and spf and nothing else and my acne has calmed down and gone back to normal.
and lastly, i understand your views on cruelty free products and being vegan…unfortunately i am not wealthy enough to afford only being vegan and getting products other than cerave, even cerave gets too expensive for me sometimes. i’m also autistic and cannot handle eating vegan foods- my safe foods all have some kind of animal involved and i cannot help those things, if i could i definitely would and id be vegan. but forcing your views on others is a little unsettling, not everyone CAN be cruelty free and others unfortunately just don’t care and nothing you say will fix that. i’m sad to see you talking about a certified dermatologist like this…you were my favorite skincare youtuber
Wonderfully said
I don’t know why u had to pick on her routine ? she’s doing her best with drugstore products and does a great job explaining them too … She’s sooo good and clever . Her content might be basic in derm world but we don’t know the basics. That’s the problem 😅
Ponds is $3 and works great. Her recommendations are $18, $24, and $32 for a similar product. Sorry, but anyone who doesn't understand why that's an issue isn't someone I'll be taking any kind of advice from.
Wow, those are some ridiculous prices. There are far cheaper cruelty free products like The Inkey List, The Ordinary, elf, St. Ives, and even Dove has a cruelty free label on it now. Cassandra needs to recommend cheaper cruelty free alternatives if they are even available.
But its cruelty free
😂
I always used baby oil, a cheap lotion or conditioner to remove my make up esp eye makeup. I never bought into the pricey make up removers but if someone wants to that is cool. Just not for me.
@@nikkib473 I have sensitive eyes and I use the generic Amazon eye makeup remover, and it works perfect even on waterproof mascara. I can't imagine spending so much money on something that's immediately washed down the drain.
@@perlalopez206 cassandra said it herself, “you can even use olive oil”
so why are you asking me to spend so much when i already have what i need o the kitchen?
Dr Dray actually does recommend many vegan and cruelty free products when they exist and could be alternative to some not cruelty free ones in many her videos, no matter whether she uses only cruelty free products or not. As an youtuber, she is testing a lot of products for review and she probably changes her routine constantly. She moved on to other cleansers already. If you watch her empties video you would know.
Exactly this is what i notice but many youtuber want to show us that they are the lords of the world and try to '' diaboliser'' people who dont follow their which they call values.
@@MsSousou11 Exactly! I find this particular video hypocritical. We need to check ourselves before criticizing others.
I think she knows what she’s doing because she went to school for 10 + years to be dermatologist
Literally. She went through med school and an extremely difficult residency, I’m sure she knows what she’s doing as she’s been one on one practicing this. Like I don’t get why people who only have an interest in skincare have to make comments against doctors that know what they are doing. We’re lucky that Dr. dray recommends affordable skincare or affordable alternatives.
@@hp8962 Okay girl. I have seen quite a few of your negative comments and I'd just like to state that: Even professionals can be criticized. Cass is a medical aesthetician; therefore, she is also qualified to discuss skin care. She's not just a hobbyist. Aestheticians (more so than dermatologists) are the ones who usually look into skin care actives and off-the-shelf products. Dermatologists are doctors and they learn about skin care illnesses, it's not a dermatologist's job to understand skin care formulations. My point being: Yes, Dr Dray obviously has a lot of experience in skin care, but so does Cass. I'm a computer engineer, and guess what? Despite the fact that I am an expert in my field, I also occassionally receive criticism from physicists and programmers. Being an expert in your field is great, but you might not be the only expert. Give Cass some credit, she also has 10 years experience in the line of skin care.
I appreciate dr dray, she is the holy grail of youtube, i wish she was around when i was younger.
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳
Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour?
So... 10 times a day?
Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 I get what you mean. However, she does mention that, as long as you’re wearing some protection, it’s better than nothing. Reason being why it’s good to reapply is because when you move around your sweat may rub it off, and it comes off over time. You can reapply whenever you deem necessary. She does it more frequently, I think because she may be somewhat OCD, but don’t quote me on that.
@@aerialtaprootanalysis6117 thanks a lot for your answer! Yes to me if you reapply thre e to four times a day its fine but more than this , I feel it would get to an unhealthy level of obsession, as the sun is what makes this earth exist and its everywhere and it represents life.
I am a red hair so I am in total favour of being protected.
But reaplyimg every hour of your life.... That too me is bringing it too far.
Also she doesn't mention that but sunscreen chemicals can create free radicals too.
Like... Not if you apply it three times a day. But if you constantly apply it, it seems it can weaken your skin and create free radicals as much as when you are in the sun.
@@YFL.111 that’s a good point, what you’re saying makes lots of sense. I think avoiding being in the sun for tooooo long is good. Whereas when u spend all day in the sun it can be harmful. A balance of the two is good. Applying too much sun screen is not good either. Agreed!!!
Sameeee. I am happy young people with horrible acne have access to her and won’t be putting toothpaste and lemon juice and un-diluted tea tree oil on their face like I did ;__;
You're NOT A DOCTOR. PERIOD.
Who
@@furious7754 Cassandra
@@benji4780 show proof of her degree and Dr. Dray. No proof at all
@@furious7754 Cassandra has no degree and dr dray was practicing as a dermatologist in Houston.
@@benji4780 show me proof though of dr. Dray
Nope keep Dr Dray the way she is. She's one of the few UA-camrs that actually bring value to my life rather than trying to take my money. I'll be vegan when I can afford it.
You must have missed her sponsored videos selling stuff she condemned in other videos. She was hawking a $160 pillow the other day during a pandemic. She got it for free. Real sensitive of her when people lost their jobs.
@@susanc9525 exactly because she was obviously thinking "I will sell a 160dll pillow because of how many people have lost their jobs", the fact that you're trigered for someone selling something you don't have to buy means your personal life must suck and you're just salty for not being to afford it even if you wanted it
@@susanc9525 how exactly is that insensitive? Stop trying to look for something to hate on dray. Your logic literally makes no God damn sense.
By that logic it is also insensitive that there are UA-cam Ads, and Television commercials......
People still have to make a living, she is not forcing people to buy whatever she sponsors, very few times has Dr dray sponsored something as expensive as that pillow, from what I have noticed she sponsors pricy things that she would normally use herself. She once sponsored a humidifier, she has ezcema and would benefit from one. So it seems she wouldn't sponsor something that she would use for herself. To me that is authentic of her.
No offense but being vegan can actually save u money 😅 big misconception that it''s expensive!
@@emmal2578 Thats false. Veganism is a tricky lifestyle even if you disagree. Often times you have to buy certain foods and supplements to keep you on par with someone who eats meat and gets a good amount of their nutrients from meat and dairy. Veggies and fruit are not enough, nuts are EXPENSIVE, tofu, plant milks, and special vegan packaged foods are growing in demand + becoming more expensive. And depending on the state and city you live in being veganism becomes an expensive luxury. I live in Boston and being vegan here is not cheap...
A lot of vegans under eat , when you're vegan you have to actually eat twice as much to reach your caloric and nutritional threshold and that honestly adds up on a weekly basis. This is coming from an ex vegan that developed an eating disorder and got severely ill.
She acts like she is the actual doctor with a PhD and Dr. Dray is the esthetician. And stop preaching all that cruelty free, it's so annoying, not everyone can afford those things, atleast Dr dray recommends stuff that we can all afford and she offers drugstore brands. She preaches what good for our skin and her videos are very educational. This video just seemed very passive aggressive where you you are trying to find faults in her and when you can't find any you go off on those cruelty free thing.
Just don't pretend you can't afford the Ordinary, thanks.
Perfectly said👌
@Dan Thomas Yeah sorry, the ordinary or the inkey list or good molecules, there is ton of them if you search like one our on the web
@@matildematrix7290 have you been to Asia? None of those brands exist in my country or neighbouring ones. To hell with your first world supremacist arrogance bruh.
Asima Nayak I second this, and even though some shops carry the ordinary in my country, they have super high price points that they cost almost like high end products
Cassandra, honey please get your moods under control. It is a dermatologist, not a serial killer. Relax, you are right. So is she.
Dr Dray is a board-certified, published dermatologist: you are a UA-camr who likes to use graphics of molecules and scientific terms in order to look like an expert.
Sorry. I've just undubscribed. Holier than though sarcasm is ugly
PREACH
And who is she? Cassandra?
She is a medical esthetician*
I don't know ppl, honestly. Yes, they get 'certified' , 'promoted' etc. or get popular on the UA-cam, but how do we know in either case what's better approach.
Dr Dray is the best ever, she is not into the new trends and hype, she gives an honest review.
Period!
After seeing so many “influencers” who USUALLY have a good moral compass when it comes to calling out the bullshit with Celeb Skin Care lines, Dr. Dray is the ONLY one who actually called the Fenty Line out for what it really was, overpriced celebrity schlock you can get from different brands for much cheaper. Everyone else was so timid and trying to give props when it just wasn’t due.
@@katrinaogden9848 Yes you are so correct, some people see it for what it is and some buy into the nonsense.
She’s a hater lmao and her skin is trash it’s so thin lmao
Taay_ Thegreat her skin is trash lmao and thinner than a sheet of paper
“Shes kinda been pissing me off”
GURL..... you did NOT just DRAG an ACTUAL DOCTOR just because she isnt “cruelty free” love your videos butttttttt nope
I totally agree but we also shouldn’t just blindly believe every single thing a Doctor says as well.
@@MK-dj5vz very true sometimes we have to do our own research
Cassandra has a really strong point: Dr Dray is a vegan.
However, dr Dray being a vegan a way of weight control (orhorexia) and not being anti-animal cruelty. Dray's 'what she eats' vid are about eatng a lot of and low cal meals, and ways to feel full.
@@argoneonoble she's plant based, she follows a vegan diet but she's not vegan
I totally agree with Cassandra, I love dr dray but I find some of her content useless because I wont use products tested on animals. Cassandra has a really good point! So many people are CF now & vegan for ethical reasons, so if dr dray recommended more CF products it would help a lot more people xx
She's sharing her personal skincare routine. She doesn't use many cruelty free products so why would she recommend them in the video. Also isn't coconut oil meant to be horrible for the skin? :/
I think left on the skin it can be but as a first cleansers its ok then you follow up with a second cleanse, something that breaks down the oil.
Coconut oil shouldn't be bad if you follow with a good cleanser. SHOULDN'T is the key word, keep in mind everyone's skin is different. Personally I've used olive oil and coconut oil as a first step to get rid of waterproof mascara and it's never posed an issue for me, but my skin tends to be very resilient so I wouldn't recommend it for everyone
Depends on your skin type. I'd be super cautious in using it if you're super sensitive with other combo issues like dryness, or acne thanks to masks.
Do you know what she means when she says this thing about spf 30 just protecting you for 30 min? 😳
Then if you have spf 50 you have to apply it every single hour?
So... 10 times a day?
Woudnt that make it impossible to kind of... Live life?😅
@@YFL.111 yeah it would, however it's fairly true all sunscreen has to be reapplied every two hours to get benefit from it. Hopefully in the future they'll be better
*me coming here just to support how great Dr. Dray is*. I confirm my dermatologists advice with hers. She’s literally the best.
I’m honestly just shocked at the high horse this woman is on. Getting views on UA-cam does not mean you are qualified to judge a dermatologists personal skincare routine. What a joke this is.
Amen to that statement!
Its not the only thing I'm mad about. We all know Dr.Dray loves function of beauty for her hair. I haven't yet come across recommendations for another brand she has done (feel free to recommend in case I missed). Yet Function of Beauty had the AUDACITY to partner with Cassandra on a video that is dragging Dr.Dray by the hair. It's ridiculous.
I feel like ur taking this too seriously, I like many other people feel strongly about using more cruelty free and vegan products where possible. Cassandra is just recommending similar products which are less harmful.
alison ross I mean that’s just her voice, have u never seen her videos lmao
She’s a Doctor Who does online sponsorships with brands who cater to influencers so.... she also does not disclose if she’s currently in practice
Anybody who has watched Dr Dray knows she be giving out FREE ADVICE!!! A whole free consultation!!! Girl she’s a whole dermatologist. You shouldn’t be getting mad that she doesn’t use cruelty free products. It’s her decision.
Dry was shaving her face to test the hypothesis 'it's good for you skin'. Very self-sacrificing, but a DOCTOR should know these BASICS without even testing. No shaving your face isn't good!! ...and Cassandra..., I don't know...
wait she gives free consultations????
@@user-ji8ll1qn6o lol no not literally but she has so many informative videos explaining skin conditions/types and how to tell what skin problems you might be facing, how to treat them best, the science behind ingredients/products and how it reacts W/ the skin etc. and also focusing on products that are affordable and available in drugstores for a few dollars
@@user-ji8ll1qn6o I have bad underarm oder no matter what I use. Saw one of her videos, she said You can use PanOxyl acne face cream for your under arm cause it has ingredient that get rids of bacteria that cause bad oder. Been doing for 3 weeks. Guurrrllll, that shit work!!!! Some days I don't even need deodorant. There's no smell!! I been fighting this damn problem over 20 years until now. Thank the lawd for Dr.Dray!!!
Preeech
I always got weird vibes from this channel because she's recommending a lot of overpriced or useless products and only seems to make content for upper middle class women. I still liked to watch her videos from time to time but I just discovered this video and oof. Dr Dray isn't above everything else and it's ok to criticise her but this video made me cringe so much. Just so embarrassing
Why is having morals considered elitist and inaccessible? Cassandra doesn’t support violence against animals, and tbh, Dr Dray claims not to either as a vegan yet recommends products that have caused animal suffering. Maybe don’t watch the channel if you don’t have ethics?
@@ladycaticorn2950 Yes she does. Everyone does, including you. Maybe not with words but with actions. Most vegans just lack the critical thinking skills to see how their life negatively impacts animals and the environment. You can't escape it unless you go to Tibet and become a monk. You are literally posting a comment to a server supported by batteries that's lithium came from strip mines that stripped the very environment of life of all kinds. 1) I have never heard Dr Dray's reasoning for being a vegan.. it may not have anything to do with animals. 2) Every single product has caused animals suffering. Every single one. Cruelty free just means they didnt directly test on animals. But that does not mean the gathering of ingredients used did not either. Where do you think they get natural oils? It doesn't just come out of the air. They come from plants or seeds or nuts, and the people who collected them didn't give a shit if animals were around.
You don't give a shit about ethics, you just want to morally grandstand because you are a narcissist with a superiority complex.
@@An.Unsought.Thought Wow, you really want to talk to me about veganism. Two comments from you. I'm flattered! Again, you make weak arguments in an attempt to paint veganism as delusional when, in fact, choosing to go vegan is rooted in logic, critical thinking, and moral alturisim. I recognized that I love animals and do not want them to suffer when we have a plethora of plant alternatives thanks to science. I acknowledged that I had been behaving in a way that did not align with my values because society normalized animal exploitation, abuse, and suffering to me. And I changed, even though it was hard. How am I morally superior when I admit my own fault and acknowledge that I needed to change? Furthermore, as I have already addressed in my other comment to you, veganism does not eradicate all animal suffering nor does it suggest that such a feat will happen. The Vegan Society defines veganism as "a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals.” This definition does not indicate that all forms of human and non-human animal suffering will cease to exist because people become vegan. The point is that we can actively make choices to dramatically reduce the exploitation, suffering, killing, and abuse of non-human animals for food, entertainment, cosmetics/skincare, science/medicine, and clothing. You are desperately trying to invalidate my arguments by suggesting that I cannot stop all animal suffering or that I have contributed to animal suffering. You are right on both counts. But that's not my point. If we know that causing animals to suffer is wrong (because we agree that it is cruel to kill someone who doesn't wish to die, especially when their death is not necessary for survival), and we can do something to limit the amount of harm we are causing, then we are morally responsible for making changes. In your case, you'd rather live in a world in which everyone shoves their heads in the sand and does the bare minimum, claiming that striving for change is futile because suffering and inequality and death exist. I call bullshit. You wouldn't tell abolitionists that they shouldn't fight for the emancipation of enslaved people because racism and racial violence will still exist following abolition. And you wouldn't tell someone that they shouldn't try to reduce their carbon footprint since climate change is happening. But you say this about veganism because going vegan requires that you admit moral-wrongdoing and make changes. You'd rather not do that, so you'll call me stupid, narcissistic, and any other ad hominem to discredit me. And to your point about computers, I cannot do my job and survive without a computer. I can, however, survive without consuming animal flesh or secretions, wearing animal skin or fur, or supporting animal testing. You appeal to futility, but futility does not negate moral responsibility.
@@ladycaticorn2950tell me you're crazy,unhinged and your only personality trait is being a vegan without telling me you're crazy,unhinged and your only personality trait is being a vegan
Your lengthy ridiculous comment:"I'll go first."
Girl I don't know what you did in this video, it was not the mood. Energy was too combative, not everyone's main concern is cruelty free.
should be :)
While I respect the opinions expressed in this video, Dr Dray recommends AFFORDABLE and ACCESSIBLE products. It would be nice if there were more accessible and affordable and affective, cruelty free options but unfortunately there is not. And to be honest not everyone is willing to risk using coconut oil on their face. So to each their own. Not everyone wants to pay that kind of money for the more “ethical”, “vegan” products especially in this day and time where most people need to save a penny and their face!
I couldn’t agree with you more on this! And thank you for bringing this up, and back to the forefront of my attention. You’re totally right - it’s so frustrating, even when I’m trying to find duplicates for some of the drugstore favorites, to see the ridiculous prices of some of these things - identical ingredients, but what is cruelty free and cost three times as much. Hopefully this is something that the industry can fix super soon!
Affordable not so much! Function of beauty cost 60€ for a standard pair of shampoo and conditioner, it's not so cheap.
@Ra-hel Sadiq in Italy actually
I find it weird that cruelty free and vegan skin care products are uncommon in drugstores in the US. Here in Korea, they are absolutely common. And they're very affordable as well. I heard from Americans in a Facebook skincare group I'm in that Walmart sells some Korean skin care products. And that their prices are affordable. I hope it can be helpful to some of you all.
Doll Face this is amazing, and I wasn’t aware of Walmart! Definitely have to look into this. Yes, it’s amazing how inexpensive cruelty free products can be overseas. I wish that the American market would take a hint! I will definitely look into some of these brands and really appreciate you bringing this to my attention!
I just watched Dr. Drays video last night. It's like 8 months old but I never get tired of her videos. I went on a Dr. Dray binge last night til like 3am. Lol.
Greetings Diana Moore hope u r well n just like u I’m on here to c what’s Being Said.... cause I Totally Love Dr. Dray💙n I Dislike Any1 Talking Smack about Her.... cause To Me.... She’s a True Treasure that Deserve Total Respect💯👑🙏👏....
Dr. Dray rocks! She is the real deal.
Dr. Dray saved my skin, she is the one that teach me about differin, how to apply them, how to reduce the inflammation period. If there is no Dr. Dray i have to go to the dermatologist and we all know how expensive it is. And I believe I’m not the only one who was helped by her video. So NO, her products is not ✨basic✨ it’s useful to people
This didn’t age well, function of beauty is now being recalled
DR. DRAY IS THE BEST!!
SHE IS EXTREMELY PROFESSIONAL EXTREMELY SMART AND EXTREMELY KIND ❤️
Greetings Silvia Kenia Urrea hope u r well n so Agree with u n She should also Remember that Dr. Dray’s a Real Dermatologist n Knows Her Stuff💯😀👍💜....
Exactly
Have you seen her fenty skin review I lost respect for her after that 😔
@Dan Thomas no she was rude and sarcastic and disrespectful for no reason she even started of the video rudely and sarcastically.
Yesss queen she is she is such a great person dr dray changed my life
Idk man, an esthetician reviewing the product choices and recommendations of a board licensed MD dermatologist it's like a spiritual astrological guru reviewing an astrophysicist lecture about gravity and relativity. Yeah, that's how stupid this is.
Or someone who flips burgers criticising Gordon Ramsay's cooking.
@@bmth607When the burger flipper gets to Gordon Ramsey's level of training, he/she is welcome and entitled to say what they like. There is no discrediting the level of knowledge if it is not in the same league. Until then you reach that level of achievement, be humble and respectful.
Its like a hygienist critiquing an orthodontist, or a nurse advising a surgeon. Its just so distasteful and really SHOWS more than anything how little she knows
she did mention her profession and that she doesn’t claim to know more. she just wanted to react to someoen she stated she looks up too. but however i do think she seemed condescending and overwhelming with her tone.
Is like a "coach" talking about psychologists, lol.
Honestly, Dr Dray has saved my skin! I love how affordable the products she recommends are. I was going through really bad "maskne" and since using products like Neutrogena and Cera Ve my skin has been looking great!
Well, I guess it's a good thing that aloe is vegan and cruelty free. You'll definitely need it to sooth the burn from getting DRAGGED in these comments!
In any event, Dr. Dray is a treasure, and she keeps it real without being annoyingly perky. I love her!
Calm down ❄️
Such a good coment .. bravo
Way to hold someone to a standard that’s unrealistic for them. Why would you be upset by someone not having your personal preference? That comment at the beginning just left a bad taste in my mouth.
By the way, I love cruelty free products.
@@zohadiveth you should try eating meat!
It's not unrealistic for Dray though as she is supposed to be vegan. Lol
This is a rich, privileged vegan that people look up to intentionally promoting animal cruelty to a huge audience. She’s well educated and eats plantbased so is aware of what she’s buying and supporting. Who the heck wouldn’t criticise that haha?
Jaclyn McCosker Did you read my comment? What you said has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. I never commented on anyone’s education level, never said she was unaware of anything.
What I did say was that no one should hold someone to a standard that is unrealistic for them. She is a doctor, doctors prescribe medications all the time that are not cruelty free.
Meaghan McArthy yes you asked why someone would be upset that someone else doesn’t share a “personal preference” and I admittedly just presumed that’s about the animal cruelty because that’s what Cassandra criticised so sorry if you were talking about some other preference. But promoting the violence behind these products is not above criticism, a medical degree isn’t at all relevant. You sound like you think avoiding animal cruelty is just a personal choice and not about basic ethics and morality. Mandated animal testing in medicine does not justify animal testing in every other area of life where it’s not legally required. There are doctors that do not encourage harm to animals when patients have a choice.
Why is it that people who have the least/most basic level of training and knowledge in a particular field so easily call themselves "experts"? I am sorry but your expertise being an esthetician is JUST not comparable to an MD or a PhD who has spent most of their lives in school and training in highly COMPETITIVE fields. Not everyone can just "become" an MD or a PhD, as it's extremely difficult to get into medical schools or purse PhD in science but everyone can definitely get through "esthetician" school. This is not to drag your profession down but show some humility and stop pretending to be have the same level of knowledge as the REAL EXPERTS. It just makes you sound silly.
Yeah, it's laughable. She's a rich girl playing at social justice warrior lesbian esthetician after a few years on YT raking it in and brandishing luxury everything and being a 'model'. She got YT famous for HAVING acne, not curing it. Now she's recently trained in a cosmetic field and thinks she can argue with doctors? Esheticians do nothing but polish the outside of the skin, they have no real high level knowledge of biochemistry, medicine or pharmaceuticals. The epic snobbery over products is hilarious too, but does betray the rich girl roots. The chick has no idea most working people cannot splash out on her fancy niche vegan products nor do they want to.
Personally, I don't always give people with official credentials the most trust all the time. Like, I've seen numerous people with doctorates being dumber than my mom and even my dad and they only have bachelors. It's all case by case. On top of that, traditionally as far as I know the doctors or any professionals who feature in "shows" often aren't the "best" per se. But obviously we do have true gems like Dr Dray or Nai (the golden rx), which is why at the end of the day we need to watch and critically assess whether someone and their information is worth our time. It's been less than a month since I learned about Cassandra Bankson and I honestly thought many of her videos were decently helpful (seemed more professional than Hyram or James at the least) but this video, while not the worst thing in the world, grinded my gears in most of the parts that annoyed me the most and for that reason I have unsubscribed. I cannot care for her credentials really, but what I do know is that her standards probably don't align well with mine while Dr Dray's does. Cassandra's videos are way more entertaining in general but seems like it can get biased(which I value a lot from youtube videos) while Dr Dray's are very informative and manages to be neutral in tone (important but sometimes gets me snoozing) and my ethics, morals, values aligns with Dr Dray more than Cassandra so yeah. That's my two cents in the matter.
@@msk-qp6fn Of course, not every Dr is good. That holds true for every profession. That still doesn't change the fact that they have toiled much harder through a very rigorous selection process and level of training. This girl titles every video as "specialist reacts to" which is what I have a problem with. It's clear that she googles stuff and narrates it to camera. Anyone can do that. That combined with her preaching about vegan/clean products to a point of being obnoxious and self righteous makes her a privileged phony.
She literally said she respects and looks up to dr dray. You don’t have to agree with everything someone you look up to 100% of the time. Regardless of credentials. I will forever love dr dray. But she has also kind of been letting me down lately. But I will FOREVER love and support her. 🤘
agree
It is a privilege to buy & have accessible Cruelty Free products. I wish I could but I can't afford it. I'd like to not be bashed for my not cruelty free products. I get the passion & the frustration but it does make me feel bad & guilty for not being able to afford Cruelty Free products. Once again I know she is mainly criticizing Dr. Dray since she has more options to go cruelty free but at the same time she's offering us flexible options, affordability & gives her honest opinion. I don't feel bad after watching her videos like I did with this one😖I hope to go cruelty free in the future but for now I have to use what I have.
oof you lost me at the cooking oil. i gotta say, i dont think you wanted to be mean but you came off as kind of entitled in this video. you obviously focus on vegan/cruelty free products, good for you and all, but they're also very expensive products that not many people can afford, and dr dray knows this about her fanbase and understands that they need affordable products that are backed up by doctors and proven to work and also easily accessible able (ie sold in drugstores and walmarts). i also felt like you were kind of shaming people who used those products, and you kept calling them basic as though they werent all that good (when this stuff is proven to be some of the best products out there for people with sensitive skin).
I am a chemist. But bro I would never. This isn’t a cruelty free options video. Its her personal skin care video. Why is she going to layer a bunch of actives that she doesn’t need? All of your criques are invalid bc sorry hun youre not a doctor, you’re trying to act like youre such an academic but youre being hella unprofessional and rude, you obviously haven’t done your research because Dr. Dray has videos for specific skin care problems. In those videos, she recommends actives because that IS THE PURPOSE OF THE VIDEO. She talks about vegan and cruelty free options when that is THE PURPOSE OF THE VIDEO.
Right? Obviously this woman doesn’t know her place as a medical esthetician.
Well-said. 👍
But Dr. Dray talks constantly about being a strict vegan and how important that is.... until a sponsorship. Hypocrite and someone who has an eating disorder.
This woman is neurotic something about her body language creeps me out I literally can’t finish her videos
@@Nikki3b0oxX haha me too her facial expressions add to it all but she obviously has a ton if fans based on her sub amounts.
Love you girl, but I will say that Dr. Dray’s recommendations are evidence-based and have peer reviewed science backing them. Skincare research is not as prolific/well-funded as many other fields, which is why there are so few products with unbiased evidence supporting their use in many different populations.
I’m also not going to lecture about petrolatum or mineral oil, because it seems others have addressed its sustainability over low-yield plant oils. One last note though, the reef-safe issue is very poorly substantiated by science. There have not been studies to demonstrate damage to coral reefs by chemical sunscreens at typical concentrations and in the wild, rather than in a lab.
I only say these things because I know you love to see all kinds of perspectives. I am giving you my perspective as a pharmacist, as I have to make skincare recommendations regularly. I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just sharing my thoughts. It’s hard to find a balance between ethics and efficacy, (not to mention economics) and I am happy to see you taking feedback and trying to always do better. ❤️❤️
You are so awesome, thank you for being constructive in a kind way and not nasty/rude/homophobic like everyone else here
Haylee ❤️❤️
Haylee wait who was homophobic?!
@@aperson5261 someone basically insinuated she's a typical "lesbian" who wants "social justice" points, I can't remember what their username was but it was here in the comments. If you disagree with her that's totally cool but it's extremely inappropriate and homophobic to suggest such an awful thing
Haylee wtf?! Why would someone do that!! That’s horrible!!
Than again this is dr. Drays skin care routine that works for her skin. Thats why everyone else needs to do whats best for their skin type.
She keeps mentioning that the products that dray uses are basic and that the products that dr dray Is using won't help people with acné or hyperpigmentation. Thats why dr dray has other videos on that topic. This is just her skin care routine that works for her.
Dr.Dray is very professional in what she does and I absolutely respect her. She knows what she’s doing. She is a very intelligent woman. Great content and tips she provides for us.
Honestly not here to spread hate or anything, I watched one of your other videos and enjoyed the information you were giving and decided to click onto another video (this one). I quickly realized that although you are indeed an expert in your field and have been in the industry many years, it seems like (in this video at least) you don't act like it. The fact that you felt the need to film an entire video trying to drag a medical professional who not only has years of experience but 12+ years of pure training under her belt (more in-depth than your training, sorry just pure facts) and you had to speak in such a condescending tone about every little thing that she did in her skincare routine, including being obnoxiously offended that she doesn't cater to every single belief you have (offering cruelty free alternatives, which are actually quite hard to find in effective and reasonably priced products). This entire video was just distasteful and honestly made you look spiteful and almost dare I say jealous at someone who is an actual board certified dermatologist. I am not trying to be rude or mean in any type of way, this is just how this entire video came across to a new viewer like me who doesn't know who you are, and I really think you should truly humble yourself. This was just an extremely bad look on your part, and tbh you lost a potential subscriber (not that it means anything to you, but i'm sure many other people saw this video and had the same experience as me).
I could not agree with you more...
Lol and she's an esthetician!! Lmao not a doctor
This is literally a reaction video, different professionals have different opinions, this is HER reaction, with HER opinions to this video. You are the one on your high horse trying to tell a professional with years of experience in her field what to do and what to say to please you.
I’m with Cassandra on this. She’s staying HER view. She did it politely. She’s stating a inconsistency in Dr Drays content but not disrespecting her. We need content like this to show both sides so we can make our own opinions
YESS THIS IS SO TRUE!
When I was a student juggling jobs and studies, I couldn’t afford to always go for cruelty free options or high end products. Dr dray saved my skin without making a dent in my pocket. So there you go. Sorry that you feel “ pissed off lately” but not everyone has the luxury to choose cruelty free options even if they are morally and ethically sound. P.S. I used to watch you before and life happened and i left youtube for a while, this is the first video I have watched since then and its disappointing. You used to be humble.
What did you use that saved your skin?
She was never humble lmao
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Wait how do you know?
@@roseypiedrasanta8177 Watch Dr Dray.
Surley you have something better to do then to put down people ??? Facts Dr. Dray has Amazing skin ! Clearly she knows what she is talking about !
This entire video comes off as all kinds of privileged. Most people don’t have access to a dermatologist. Dr Dray gives her time and advice for free, and offers the most affordable options. Then you come on here and making a video not only trying to disregard that but offering vegetable oil as an option? So if you’re poor just use vegetable oil because it’s cruelty free. That’s why I can’t stand the vegan community. They put their blinders on and act like everyone is living the same experiences as everyone else.
Did you miss the part where she complimented her like 30 times ?
@@lucia4916 Lucia complimenting someone and insulting them in the same sentence is called being passive agressive, nice-nasty or just straight up gaslighting
@@Andrea-dm4gd critiquing someone isn’t insulting them
Sis really said to put vegetable oil on my face-
She should do a video of her putting that on herself for a couple months. See how that turns out for her before telling her subscribers to do it.
Coconut and Olive oil OMG and its supposed to do the "same" as the one Dr Dray uses 🤣 How to distinguish "experts" from doctors 101
Yup. Looks like it's not longer just for salad.
Dr Dray talks about ingredients, what might be helpful or not, reviews products, has one or two snide comments about certain brands, or shares mundane but fun stuff like her finds shopping at Costco but I don’t recall her going around talking about or reacting to other channels and that is great. That is one reason I enjoy watching her videos. Wish others would do the same and stick with reviewing or reacting to products, not other UA-camrs because frankly, to do so is boring and unhelpful.
Yup. This video sucks and I’m sick and tired of her doing dr.dray reviews.
Now after reading all the positive comments about Dr. Dray, I'll definitely need to go to her channel and subscribe. Damn, I didn't know what I've been missing. If I can get high quality advice from a professional dermatologist for free and on top of that being able to afford the products recommended, then I'm totally in. Too many positive comments is hard to ignore. Dr. Dray? Here I gooooo...
Dr. Dray saved my skin she is the best, love her.
Look into yourself Cassandra. The more you point out Dr. Dray's flaws, the more you emphasize your own. I won't be surprised if you lose some subscribers from this day onward. I know I'm one of them.
So am I!
She still gas valuable input regarding skincare. The main thing is she’s going deep with the cruelty free and it was incessantly annoying. Though the only one I trust 100% on skincare on UA-cam is Dr. Dray period. She doesn’t hold back at all. The “top 3” people tend to praise are Susan Yara, Hyram and some guy named James who aren’t certified doctors or anything within the medical field. And they all recommend fragrance, dyes and a multitude of unnecessary and highly irritable ingredients. Hyram always makes sly remarks towards Dr. Dray and her repeat of no fragrance. It’s always “if you don’t mind it..” fragrance is no good no matter what. It’s the main cause of contact dermatitis and the most likely reason people go to the derm is because of contact dermatitis due to fragrance sensitivity over time. Cassandra has good input much more than those other three who still agree with fragrance and what not.
N H I haven't watched Susan but at least as far as hyram goes, he's always preaching no fragrance. James is okay with it in wash off treatments.
@@TheOneOfEarth While I agree that Dr. Dray is a better source of skincare info (with being a dermatologist and all), I will say Hyram and James (I know nothing about Susan Yara lol) don't promote dyes or fragrances. Hyram is, and as far as I can tell has been for at least a year or so, super anti-fragrance and talks about irritable ingredients, etc. (he constantly laments fragrance ingredients in products). but (as he states in nearly every video) he's not an esthetician nor a dermatologist so he doesn't know best, nor does he claim to. I've also heard him love on Dr Dray a couple times, so maybe you're basing this on older videos of his? (people do change their minds over time). And James is okay with fragrance for himself to a certain extent, but he also always mentions it in case you have an issue with it
Trishna Chandarana Still Dr. Dray doesn’t recommend but insist you stay away from fragrance at all costs. She is after all a board certified derm. And no he recently posted a story regarding something that hinted towards Dr. Dray. He doesn’t even follow her on social media because he doesn’t agree with a literal board certified dermatologist. He’s ripped off many of her videos. Fragrance is the main cause of contact dermatitis and the number one reason many go to a derm is because of contact dermatitis due to fragrance use. To recommend or even say it’s okay even slightly is highly ill advised for people who aren’t even board certified. He’s like eating soup with a fork. It’s a utensil but not the right one. I’ve watched a few of his vids and he’s just cringe with his ripping off other derms and not practicing what he preaches. I tell everyone to steer clear from his recommendations he never sticks to his own because he is not a certified derm and always changes his stances.
hey Cassandra, please be more careful about the way you use ‘ocd’- it is frequently used as an adjective to describe people who are tidy which takes away from the seriousness of the actual illness and further stigmatizes it, because on top of that it is far more than being afraid of germs, only some people with ocd have that type, different types often include different methods of self harm and it can be very debilitating, my personal struggle with it has been a hard one especially seeing a lot of people around me didn’t understand what was going on because it didn’t present as being tidy, I wish you luck with further educating yourself
Yes, thank you for saying this! It was one of many things that bothered me about this video.
Exactly. I feel the same way. Same goes for other words like "triggered" "PTSD" "depressing" people misuse these words and it takes away from the people who actually have the conditions from being taken seriously because the terms have been trivialized.
Thank you for mentioning it! Its so popular to misuse psychiatric medical terms for some mld personaluty traits, even ADHD is often misused...
if you were so considerate, you'd warn her about her weight! I mean Dr. Dray.
하라Hala well, why would she do that? I heard, that she struggles with some type of ED (cant tell which one tho, since I am not a doctor and I dont know her), but isnt it just Dr. Drays bussiness? Why would someone whos channel is about skincare need to have an opinion about her weight? That is a highly personal topoc for dr dray and nobody except her physician and maybe family should talk or know about it.
You did not recommend coconut oil or vegetable oil to take off your makeup.. lmao girl my oily acne prone skin would be horrific