I am new to golf and try and follow all these rules. One thing I always have a problem with is when you have someone going faster than you and before you even get a chance to let them in front of you. They just look at you with their arms crossed and shaking their head. This happens a lot. Like I said I am new to golf and once I am done the hole, I will let them in front of me on the next one or if I notice them coming up I will wait for them to let them play through but not if you are disrespectful. Then I am just going to make you wait. I feel like a lot of golfers forget how it was to learn the sport.
I totally agree! Luckily there are more gents than trolls in the game but the trolls are always more vocal! I have only six months under my belt as a golfer but had lessons with the pro from day one and he taught us the etiquette . Unfortunately we still have to tolerate smug, “virtue signaling “ , headshakers who visit our club and it’s extremely disheartening for beginners. perhaps we should all wear L plates on our hats! Good luck with your golf. 😊
I agree that it is not nice. This said, what I personnally consider the must frustrating is when people stands at address for hours, wiggling, jiggling.... I played recently with someone, not a beginner starting at address for 1 minute every shot. So I just finished not watching him play and do my stuff. That is a pitty because watching other playing is one of the pleasure we shall take away from a round.
If you find yourself slowing down play with other players waiting constantly, you may want to consider playing an easier course until you can play at a decent pace. The other thing to consider is moving up a tee box. You should be at least a single digit handicap before playing the back tees. Many new players have the misconception that they have to play the MENS tees. The tees are based on the ability not the gender so move up until you can comfortably play from the further back tees. You will enjoy the game more and you will find that people aren’t waiting behind you as often.
One guy was mad me and my friend wouldn’t let him play through (this is when we were new and didn’t even know you could do that) and literally heckled and yelled at us while we were swinging. Old guy of course.
Good video. Concerning #2, a beginning golfer might not be aware that it's much easier to follow a playing partner's ball flight if your line of sight is nearly parallel to the aiming direction (stand somewhere well behind the shot). If you're looking perpendicular to the ball's flight, the direction from your eye to the ball changes extremely fast, making the ball flight difficult to follow.
I’m glad people put these videos out. It doesn’t take much consideration given to allow others to enjoy the game. These are all easy things to grasp, and not much to ask. Be considerate, be nice, be charitable while playing. One other thing of note is the single player. Many courses allow singles out, but as a single you have virtually no priority on the course. That means that if there is a foursome ahead of you, they don’t have to let you thru. Typically, if they have their collective heads out of their rears, they will probably allow you to play ahead. But you shouldn’t expect it. If I’m playing as a single, i hold back from the tee box. Within a hole or two, usually they just let me by without my asking. Again, be charitable.
Perhaps you should consider making more of these types of videos. Certainly golf etiquette is one of the biggest problems concerning pace of play and not to mention, unnessesary wear wear on the course, Or don't stand behind be in my putting line, when i'm playing. :)
The flip side to #2 is expecting your partners to watch you while you go through your whole pre-shot routine and practice swing malarky. Do all that first and then say "Can you keep an eye on this?" when you're actually ready!
Much agreed with all these in this clip. Being most of us are casual/recreational/social golfers with power carts part of game, I would like to add a couple. 1. Driver setting-up the passenger - Nothing irritates me more than riding with someone that pulls up to my ball ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE of the cart. Doing so makes me have to go all the way around the cart to get my info and assess the shot. Then come all the way back to get in the cart. Drivers should pull up with ball on the side of hitter and far enough away to give them room to swing. 2. Pace of play with cart (putting clubs away). - Irritates me when playing behind people who hit the ball, then take their time in putting away their clubs before heading to the next shot. I prefer (myself) to continue holding club and getting immediately into cart, then going to next shot, THEN putting club away and getting club for the current shot. Not a big deal, but I just find it would conserve time and quicken pace if club return and retrieving can occur at subsequent ball. 3. Carts playing with Walkers - As one that likes to walk, I get irritated with riders who play ahead-- sometimes getting into areas where I have to worry about their safety.. Particularly, I'm one that might peel a shot right on occasion and dislike when riders pull into area where my shots could possibly peel. 4. Carts after finished at green - Frustrating to follow (or play with) people who get done on the green, walk back to the carts, sit there and try to determine score-- sometimes taking several seconds before heading to next hole or complete round (after 18). Get your butts away to the next hole or parking lot to discuss matters and allow the group behind to hit!
Me and a friend were on the first tee once and the people after us got there a bit early and one of them rolled his remote control trolley up to the tee box. It was hilarious afterwards, but just felt extremely ignorant of him
To hear men talk about hitting down on slower players,its insane i was caddying at a competition years back a man was hit in the head with a golf ball,no fun there he waS taken away in a ambulance.people talk about etequitte but hitting down on a slower group is insane,you may have been even slower when you started playing,common sense is in small supply.
With #5, don't forget your wedge. So many clubs end up in the lost and found because the player took his putter and wedge to play the chip. Set the wedge down to play their putts,, then forget to grab their wedge when they go to play the next hole.
Pro tip. Always leave your wedge either on the green or fringe cut, in the direction you'll be leaving the green. Worst thing you can do is lay it down in the rough.
Thanks for this video. As a new player wanted to see what you gents had to say. Comment at 4:50... I played pro baseball for some time and 50 something now. I just decided to pick this sport up 4 months ago. I didn't appreciate it as much in my 20s and 30s but now respect the skill and mental aspect. To my point, if you are distracted by any noise in any sport you are thinking too much and not in the "zone" to where you can allow your body to do what it can. Practice visualisation and closing your mind off to external stimuli befoe you swing. If you dont know what that is read about it. I understand American Football, Football, Basketball are very much different to Tennis, Golf, and baseball; sports that are all about you and the ball at times... a horn is one thing but an airplane, chatter, bark, someone in their bag, should not bother you. I golf with some ex-athletes but one who isn't and he hates it when we are just chatting while he tees off... I will never get this but have respected it once someone says to be quiet. Just my 2 cents... and once again appreciate channels like yours.
How about making a video on treating others on the course as you would want to be treated? Most of the time I have to walk on eggshells because some old dudes feel like they own the place. If you all want to keep the decorum of the game, then it actually starts with those fools not the newcomers.
I was taught never walk on the green untill you have too, ie walk the fringe till your ball then enter the green. Would disagree with #3 as you walk back over the green then pick your bag up and walk back over the green with the added weight of the bag but that’s just me lol
Good video! I wish everyone would see this; it'd make golf more fun for everyone. Golf is a game where fractions of a degree can make a big difference in the outcome of a drive or a putt! The little things matter when it comes to distraction. One thing I'd add on to your greens advice is not only to carry your putter, but also more than one wedge so you're prepared when you get to your ball and assess the lie. Sometimes, the club you picked for your chip isn't the best and having to walking back to your bag for another wedge adds a lot of time.
Absolutely! And remember you're on a golf course, not a peeler club. Make your order and move on so those of us that have an actual chance with the sexy young lassie can get our work done.
the noise thing I think is more of an old vs young thing. I don't have a radio but a lot of other 30 and 40yo members like a radio while playing but the members in their 60 and 70 get mad if you breathe in their back swing.
Hi Neil, Im a brand new player and have just become aware of the absolute obsession with Pace of play that seems to be the number one crime we beginners are flayed for! Im trying very hard to learn as many tips as possible regarding this aspect of the game but one issue has me scratching my head! As a woman playing alongside my husband I Tee off from the red pin some distance ahead of his white Tee box. Im told that I must be ready to Tee up as soon as my husband has struck his ball and not cause a delay. Other than having my ball and Tee in one hand and driver in the other how can I safely speed up my turn?
"I'm told that I must be ready to tee up as soon as my husband has struck his ball" Who ever said that is a huge jerk and/or dick and should stfu. Usually they are the ones who will take their sweet ass time with pre-shot stupidity, about 500 practice swings, green reading from all angles and from outer space etc., but expect everyone else to hurry.
This video applies to golf, certainly, but we could seriously use some etiquette off the course as well. Be considerate of others whether golfing or doing anything else.
Surely there are many more. 1) Ready golf, particularly when playing socially 2) Don't play pass the flag on the green. First one to putt, puts it on the ground. Last to putt out, replaces it. 3) No need for a full post-mortem prior to hitting off from next tee. While others are hitting off is the best time to mark your card for the prior hole, not standing in the middle of the green. 4) Play a provisional ball if you might have lost a ball. 5) You and your caddie have only THREE minutes to find your ball once you have arrived in the area it is most likely to be. There is no need for the whole group to trek over there. 6) Take your bag with you when looking for a ball. If you find it you don't have to do a big loop to play it.
So far this season, we've had the pleasure if playing behing groups that refuse to tee off until the group before them leaves the greens. I'm talking par 5s. As if they believe they're about to hit a 500 yard drive, only to have 3 of the 4 of them barely squib the ball past the ladies tees.
I can do one better. Often, I see players waiting in the fairway for the green to clear from over 200 yds out, when they didn't even have that distance off the tee.
uhhh……I’ve skulled one 150 off the tee but can easily hit a 3-wood 225+ when I catch it good, maybe half the time. I’m not going to hit into people on the green just because some dufus thinks I should. Good lord.
@@scooter5940 Man, (I asssume you must be a male specimen) you're awesome. But I wasn't talking about tour level pros like you. If you (and I mean a generic "you", not you personally) skull one, that's that. Mind you, if I am stuck behind you for 4+ hrs, I will notice if you a) skull it on a regular basis or b) have an inherit problem with your distances. In any case, I'd be happy to wait behind you and watch out for you to career it every once in a while. Generally speaking, more people have a tendency to overestimate their capabilities. Oh, and I am not a "doofus". Thanks for that little nugget of etiquette display there.
@@NTX35yeah, you are that guy (or if not you should have been). Spends the entire round bitching and moaning about what everyone around them should be doing, on the course and with their swing. Probably hits into the group in front once in awhile to “show them”. Never happy. And if you weren’t that, you would not have made the stupid comment. No one spends the round “behind me” unless the course is clogged.
I have to ask people if they mind having the pin out basically every single round cause I can't stand putting with it in the hole. I know some people like it cause its a target, but for me it makes it look like the size of the hole is cut in half.
Learned recently not to park under oak trees in the fall. One the sound is very distracting when acorns fall on the roof and two if there's a cop around they might just start shooting at the sound...
Pet Peeve of mine: taking too many practice swings (slow play). I understand the need to take a couple for sure. That's no problem, I take a couple of swings...but I've seen many people take as many as 6-8 practice swings before actually attempting to hit.
I learned early on, through sad experience, that taking a bunch of practice swings is a sure way to a ridiculous topped shot when you finally do hit. One practice swing, MAYBE two if the first is disastrous, then step up and hit it.
A great video and every new member of a club should be shown this ! unfortunately the culture of clubs have changed and its all about getting revenue for clubs to survive and unlike the old days when all new members was told the etiquette its become a thing of the past and it certainly shows at my club with no guidance .
yes.... CC's used to be exclusive and it was an honor to join or be asked to.... Now they all chase the almighty dollar and let in anyone with the money .
Slow play and not being let through is the absolute bane of golf. It’s usually Members who are playing “a competition” who are the worst. They slow play like they are trying to qualify for the Open.
@@rayvicka9749 Didn't take in any of the video then? Are you the type of player who falls behind the group in front but doesn't give a damn about the backlog behind you? All this whilst commenting on a video about golfing etiquette!
@Keith Marshall I see, I must be the person who's selfish and rude for suggesting the world doesn't owe you politeness. How dare they even play on the same course.
I was taught to move to the fringe of the green behind your ball and to walk on the green as little as possible. When crossing someone's line walk around the ball or marker not directly.
Thanks for this, Jezz is an impressive speaker. I recently played with an experienced Golfer who kept standing directly behind me on the tee. - .and quite close. This carried on until I accidently trod on his foot!
Another companion to #4. If someone lets you play though, DO NOT pick up any balls. Have been playing for 20 years. Never had that problem until the last few years and had it happen a few times now
2:56 plenty of reason not to do this! I’ll leave my wedge on the side of the green 9 times out of ten! No harm in going to ur bag when ur buddy’s are putting or lining their putts up! It’s not speed golf! But certain things I will certainly agree with you on!! Great video! Very informative for the newbies and great refresher for us players
Good video. a lot of the folk I play with regularly & have years of experience make these inconsiderate actions a lot. Standing over a putt & someone decides to start rummaging about in their pockets with all manner of coins & shite in there is a common one. It's cheating, & I call them on it & they either laugh or apologize only to do it again & again... Maybe I need to get out with some other golfers 😂
One etiquette tip for long time golfers is if people ahead are slow don't hit your balls at them. Endangering people because you are being held up is never good etiquette.
Faster golfers don’t have a negative effect on slow golfers, however slow golfers can destroy a quicker golfers round easily. Just step aside and let the faster players through, everyone’s happy.
@@fredwills6288 that’s true, but if your group is not keeping up with the group in front, then it is incumbent on you to let the group behind through if they are waiting.
You should never hit your ball deliberately at a group. That’s insane. If a ball hit by a driver hits a person in the temple and they are seriously injured, how are you going to live with yourself, not to mention being sued? I take slow play as way to work on my patience. Use the negative to develop a positive behavior in yourself. There is NO situation in which you should deliberately hit your ball into a group ahead of you. I don’t care how slow they are. It’s not acceptable.
Not about etiquette but a question if anyone can please help. I'm still new to golf having only started last year. I'm not very good at meeting people and only ever play with my dad who started with me. He is having a hip replacement so can't play. How do I go about meeting other people to play with?
Go as a solo player and tell the starter that you're OK with joining a group that may be short a player...or if a tee time is necessary, call the pro shop and ask if a group needs a 4th. Also, I often go early in the morning hours to my local muni to play 9. As such, the starter will send me off on #10 with a partner or two. This is a great way to meet new people...and if you like playing together, you can exchange information.
When I joined a club I was informed of a group that welcomed new players, the group had 3 tee slots a week, all you did was turn up 30 minutes before the first slot and chuck your ball in the hat + £1 for whatever comp was arranged, there were normally about 12/20 of us, depending on the weather. Ask the club if there's a similar group.
Is he quitting entirely or just temporarily? I just got a hip replacement and it's the very reason I picked up golf again seeing as I can't mountain bike or snowboard for a while.
@snipeyouout he had it done june last year and was back playing regular again by September. Needs a buggy to get round as he gets sore late on if walking but otherwise fine
Please add these to the list: 1. Take no more than two practice swings for your own good and everyone else's. If you're new, trust me - they aren't going to help much anyway. 2. Don't stand behind someone's line while they're hitting or putting, and don't stand on the other side of the hole. Also, please don't set the flag or clubs down on the other side of the hole. It's best to stand at least 10' away, not in the line of sight. 3. Keep a ball marker or coin on you, and mark your ball on the green when it's close to another player's line of putt. A tee is NOT a good ball marker when it's close to someone's line. 4. Along with the noise one that was in this video, be aware that whispering can be more distracting than a full blown conversation. Just make it a habit to look for when someone is hitting and don't make ANY noise once someone is about to address their ball. 5. If you need to wait for the group ahead and your cart partner is on the other side of the fairway, drop the person off who will be hitting second with at least two clubs in hand, and then drive to the other ball. That way you're both ready to hit when the time comes, and you can be putting your clubs away or filling divots while the other person is hitting. 6. Once you've gotten to a triple bogey or you've hit three putts, pick up your ball. You're only holding up everyone else, but no need to keep doing that to your psyche anyway. 7. Please rake your bunkers, fill in divots, and fix ball marks on the green. While you may not care about the course, you could be making someone else's shot worse by leaving your shot unrepaired. Help your playing partners by raking their bunker shots if you know that they are still away and need to hit, and fill their divots while they're cleaning their clubs and putting them away. Fix an extra ball mark or fill in an extra divot if you're able, too. 8. Finally, be aware of where you park your cart. That means not running up within 2' of the other cart in your group at the tees or greens so they can't even get to their bags, not parking the cart directly behind or too close to the ball about to be hit, and being aware of where other players are before you end up parking the cart too close to where they are about to hit. I don't know why this even needs to be said, but too many people seem to be clueless about where they are.
#5b. Do now carry your bag across the green either. The additional weight will make even more depressions on it. Also, you were done with the hole so why would you walk across the green to leave it? I do not think anyone behind you would be upset waiting another 15 seconds for you to walk behind it. In fact, they could probably still hit anyway.
I'd argue against that as a golf bag only adds roughly 15kg of mass to a person... I have actually measured this for my DT project 😅 and some people would actually still weigh more without the bag than some with a bag
Ah 3…. Be mindful that many courses have tees and greens close together…. Making a noise (and I mean shouting roaring/laughing)on one tee or green can annoy those on another.
Probably doesn't affect a putt in a lot of conditions, however it bothers most golfers if you do it, so don't. If conditions are soft, footprint impressions can affect a putt. Those impressions will probably mostly disappear by the time a following group gets to the green.
I've played a few games now, and learned some of these on my own but I have questions about a couple of these. The be ready rule and don't make noise rule seem to not mesh well. How can I prepare my next shot without making noise? Perhaps it's more of a lesson in tuning out poor distractions and controlling emotions, staying in a rock solid mindset. The bag in the wrong spot will stop after a few times on a course, again control your emotion. Why would it be frustrating to see someone do this? Perhaps they think something you do is frustrating and just lets it go. The last two go hand in hand. We talk about politeness but, then we EXPECT something out of someone who is not obligated to do anything. Why can we not be polite and Ask them to help us? Is that hard? I understand where we come from with all of these etiquettes. There is some good in it but, if the idea is to create a more friendly, and polite environment I think we need to treat the others as human beings and not "oh I would do that so you should".
My biggest pet peeve is when carts are involved. When you've got two players in a cart, drop one player off at his ball, let him get his yardage and club, then go over to your ball and get ready. There's no reason, unless you're in his line of play, that you should wait for your cart partner to play his shot then go over to your ball and play yours.
What drives me nuts is when people in carts leave the cart in the fairway in front of the green and then go putt. Then when they get done they have to come back, sort their stuff, put their scores down, chat, then drive around the green finally. Hit your ball on the green, then take the darn cart away, park, then putt out. People don’t plan ahead, especially occasional golfers.
One of my biggest things is not standing directly behind another player while teeing off right in the peripheral vision my mate does this all the time and it really pisses me off other players have commented on this being off putting aswell.....
I have learned to ask people to move when they are standing in this position. I have made a mess of too many tee shots because of the distraction of people standing there, especially if they decide to move a little during your back swing, it can completely ruin your concentration. Sometimes other players get a bit shitty when I ask them to move as if I am making a big deal of nothing but if I can see them, they are in the wrong spot.
To the both of you, If you are able to see what’s going on in your peripheral vision as you are set to hit and it affects you then it wasn’t the other person that put you off, you were already unfocused. People are so precious these days.
100% 👍 If you're not teeing off, there's no reason for you to be standing on the tee box. I politely ask my playing partners to stand outside the markers and no one has every taken exception.
My personal list: 1. Play ready golf. Figure out your lie and yardage when others are hitting. 2. People who play more than one ball off the tee. I'm okay with one mulligan...not three. 3. When you're out of the hole, pick up. No one wants to watch you plumb Bob that three footer for sextuple bogey. 4. Watch where every shot lands, including your playing partner's. It helps with pace of play and it's just a nice thing to do. 5. If you can't reach the green on your second shot, do not wait for the green to clear before hitting. 6. Always let the faster groups or single players play through. 7. Do not bring young kids or rank beginners out onto a big boy course during peak times. That's what driving ranges, pitch and putts and executive mines are for. 8. Shorten up your pre shot routine. Taking fifteen practice strokes and then duffing it fifty yards down the fairway is not a good look. 9. Don't stand in your partners sightline when waiting for him/ her to hit. It's distracting. 10. Never, never, ever give unsolicited swing advice, unless you're Butch Harmon. 11. Tend the pin for your playing partners. It's a nice thing to do.
Slow play is the main topic of conversation at all levels of golf these days... I was taught, when I started playing over 40 years ago, that if you "waste" 3 minutes on each hole (very easy to do during the whole hole 😏) then you have added almost an hour on to your game. Let us all get a move on eh..?
You put your bags on the tee across😊 the whole video. At least in my club this is not allowed according to etiquette. I thought this is general etiquette isn’t it?
I've been playing a long time and I didn't know of this one. I typically will leave my bag either in the long grass, or well behind the tee markers if the tee is greatly elevated. Good to know though, thanks.
Wait so I shouldn't be walking across the putting line, have my shadow bothering my playing partner, nor jangling my clubs in his back swing, well, then how do you expect me to win?
These are all pretty decent tips for beginners. But hitting a ball around isn’t that serious. If you don’t know the people in front, behind, or with you; give them space and don’t be a dick. Otherwise, just don’t wack someone over the head with your club when you hit a bad shot. Enjoy the day and have fun, that’s what it’s really about if it’s casual.
Around the 440 mark there is another that I like..... Don't stand where i can see you out of corner of my eye while I'm addressing / hitting the ball. Much like the last one with the shadow.
A someone that tends to go out solo - slow play etiquette is an absolute pain - especially when you get the same 2 poor excuses: “A solo golfer has no rights on a golf course” “Oh we’d let you through but you’d just be stuck behind the next group”
I usually play in a duo, we play fast, if we catch a group and a solo is behind and I say the 2nd statement its because the group in front isnt letting us play through so it will make no difference if I let you play through. Granted the caliber of golfers in my town are idiot rednecks who show up in cut off jean shorts and belly shirts, that blast music. But I play a lot and the next closest course is like 2 hours away. So my options are limited. Also I have to deal with entire families sharing golf clubs and hitting balls 10 feet in front of them over and over, or treating the course like the driving range and hitting driver until they finally have a playable ball.
Don't get me started... It's becoming an epidemic at my club this year. Can't stand it. At least have the mind to turn it down when you're near other groups. I've had to ask multiple times, and it's getting under my skin.
I usually have my speaker, but it’s not obnoxiously loud and I turn it all the way down when near others in play. I appreciate the consideration of others. It’s when people are inconsiderate that bothers me.
How about other people marking your ball? I hate when people do that. Like I do a chip-in to the green and when I come to the green someone already marked my ball and went on putting. Is that normal?
The only time I mark someone else's ball is when it is in my line, it's my turn to putt, and I don't want to slow the pace of play. The other golfer may have just chipped his/her ball to the green (as you stated) and has some distance to cover to mark it him/herself. Hence, I'll mark the ball and putt. Beyond that, don't touch other people's balls.
Some of the seniors i play with seem unable to stand still or quiet for 5 seconds while someone is playing their shot and spend ages marking their card when its their turn on the tee!!
My longtime golf buddy is guilty of #6. He’ll walk between the pin and person lining up a putt all the time. He thinks that if he takes a long stride over his perceived line of your putt, he is okay. He has no clue where your line is because he can’t even lineup his own putt when standing behind his ball.😂
Don't stand behind the ball while the player is hitting! Stand behind their back so they can't see you at all. If they can see you, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MOVE UNTIL THE BALL IS IN THE AIR! So many times people will start to move toward the tee box during the downswing. Don't do it!
It doesn’t bother me in the slightest. I’m always looking straight down at the ball, and focusing on it with laser beams. I hit bad enough as it is doing that, leastways trying to take in my peripheral vision……
@@Mick_Pickle Sure, when you're hitting into the setting sun and you've pre-arranged it with the player that's all good. When it's people you don't know well and you're always wondering, "Are they going to move while I'm swinging?" You just don't even want that thought in your head. I played with a guy, who I'd asked several times, "can you please stand over there ..." and he kept doing it, but then he'd realize what he was doing right when I'm swinging and he'd try to quickly run away. Scared the hell out of me. Also, in a tournament where I was playing very well and driving the ball beautifully, I had a guy walk in behind me IN MY DOWNSWING. I panic hooked the ball into the hazard, dropped my club, looked at him and he said, "Did I just walk in while you were swinging?" He was a good player but just wasn't paying attention. I think we're always scared we might hit someone with the club. Most of us have accidentally hit things, swinging in the house and we absolutely don't ever want to hit anyone with a club.
Know how far you hit your clubs. Even if you get a rip into a shot, you should allow plenty of room for overage to the group ahead of you. If theres even a slight chance you may hit into them, don't swing. Accidents do happen and if this is the case, be quick to offer an apology and let the group in front know it wasn't done on purpose.
And wat if someone is standing in the (putting) line of sight behind the flag?? I asked a guy if he would please step away… he refused. “There is no rulle for that”, he said… 🙄
There is a 'spirit of the game' rule that this could come under. There's a reason pro's don't do this while the ball is still - but once the ball is moving then they move quickly to see the line of the putt.
If you come across a ball on the hole you're playing that not yours don't assume it's a lost ball free for the taking. Several times when I've hit a poor shot that landed on another fairway I've had someone pick up my ball and take before I could walk to it.
The Noise thing, it's all about consistency. I like a bit of music to sort of fill in the luls of conversation, because everyone having a chat behind you only to go silent as you're standing over the ball about to swing, that's almost just as bad to me as making a racket when you're trying to swing. Whatever the level of noise is, try to keep it consistent.
People in my own group visiting with one another while I am trying to tee off irritates me.... there are times to visit, and there are times to keep quiet!!!
Daniel, I solved that problem. I need about 15 seconds of quiet to hit my tee shot. People in the group chit chatting as I'm trying to focus. I lose concentration. I tried looking over politely to see if they got the message, mostly not. I bought ear buds and I'm connected to Sirius XM Radio constant noise and I have total concentration and I don't have to tell them they just don't get it. It works.
Astonishing how few of these golf etiquette vids and google searches cover safety in any detail. I haven't come across one that deals with the importance of being aware of where your fellow players are at all times and actually watching them hit the ball. This not only helps avoid a fellow player being struck by a stray ball. The player hitting the ball can then confidently take their stroke as they normally would, knowing that safety is covered. Very annoying when your partner(s) are not watching you. You know if you hit a full blooded 3 wood and it slightly veers, FORE is not going to give them enough time to get out of the way and avoid serious injury. That's an unnecessary distraction to the ball player. Related to this, once you watch you partner play their ball, you then walk out onto the fairway to play your ball, and before playing yours, you hear the sound of your partner playing a second ball from where they played the first ball. No warning. Again, not only a danger to you, but it's a further distraction before you hit your ball. These things should be codified so people get it, because after all, safety is supposed to come first.
I love the folks who place a marker on their ball in front of the ball, and then when placing ball back into play, they place ball before the marker. The other is moving the ball the randomly dropping the marker somewhere near where ball was at rest.
One additional rule of etiquette from today’s modern game is to keep your Bluetooth speaker volume at a respectful level and be aware that other groups are within earshot and may not care to hear your music during their round.
Let me add a few: 1.turn off your phone and don’t use it! 2. No loud music on the carts. 3. Don’t over serve yourself or linger around the drink cart. 4. Stop throwing cigarette and cigar butts on the course. 5. Pick up your thrash when it blows off your cart 6. Have an extra ball in your pocket at all times 7. Have your distance and club selected before your turn. 8. Play ready golf 9. Get off the green area after finishing as soon as possible. Save the scorecard for the next tee box. 10. Only take 3 minutes when looking for a lost ball. 11. When in doubt…. Hit a provisional. It will save you a walk of shame.
What’s the etiquette expectations around shooting a youtube video on a golf course… group behind allow you so many takes without smashing balls at you on the green?
I watched someone hit my ball on hole 7 last time i went out. Literally watched a guy walk up with his group, look around and hit my ball before i had time to shout 😂 so messed up.
I had that happen once too... hit the crap out of my drive and had a drunk guy as part of an outing drive out to my ball(off the path to next hole) and just pocket it..... I caught up with his drunk ass after the round and gave him holy hell.
No3 doesn't bother me in the slightest No2 on the other hand i always make the effort to track other players shots the least you can do is return the favor
Not repairing ball marks on the green is my biggest pet peeve...it takes 5 seconds to repair a mark with a tool, but I see guys forgetting to do it all the time.
I'll usually fix as many ball marks on the green as I can while my partners are playing out. I'll also pick up trash off the course when I see it. I wish more people would leave the course in as good of, or even better, shape than they found it.
If the group behind is frustrated due to the time it takes you to walk to pick up your bag, then your pace is likely not the problem - the course has probably stacked too many foursomes onto the schedule
Playing out of order? hitting up on players in front, hitting the wrong ball or picking up a random ball that’s not yours, teeing off from the 10th without permission, not putting the pin back in the hole, not repairing divots, or green or bunker sand with rake umm what else?
#5: Bring your wedge and putter to the ball location. Heck, sometimes I bring 3 or 4 wedges along with my putter!! The fact I can't figure out how far each club goes has NOTHING to do with it.....
I do that all the time. I’m not a great golfer, but around the green, it’s hard to say sometimes until you see your shot whether it’s best to pitch it up there with a 58, or run the ball by chipping with a pitching wedge.
Heres another one. Play the correct tee boxes. I see way too many people playing the back tees when they drive the ball 150 yards. You are making rounds take an extra hour and a half by taking at least 4 shots to reach every green.
Where people leave their power cart is especially infuriating...with people leaving them on the fairway....before the green....and then having to walk back to the cart...and preventing anyone from playing up to that point. The other one is people who take endless practice swings. I played on a course recently....where a woman ahead did about 12 practice swings...lol...while in a group of 5 people (limit is 4). It was infuriating.
I would add: don’t talk negatively about your own game. Even if you’re a rubbish new golfer, negative talk sets the wrong tone. Instead, when a putt or chip is unexpectedly close, for example, say something positive like, “That was pretty good from there!”
That one to keep an eye on each others shots is particularly annoying to me. Numerous times I've golfed with people who've seen me shoot and say nothing when I ask where it went. I mean don't say a peep and just walk to their ball with no concern of where or what I may need to hit or reload. Many I know saw but won't open their mouth. I think they think we're competing against each other even though they never keep score for the group. It's a weird dynamic. I swear if it happens again....
It may be that they really didn’t see where it went. Honestly, I really struggle to see some of the more lofted shots my husband makes because the white ball disappears into the white clouds! I use bright pink balls which are super easy to spot. If you’re playing with friends why not ask them politely why they don’t help you out, it may not be intentional.
@@NannyOggins These aren't friends. Friends speak up and interact. These are at business events, acquaintances or people you get paired with. It's not common but has happened a few times. They're just rude and self involved. I'm saying literally ask if they saw it and they ignore me and leave the tee box, if I don't tell them wait for me to reload. I've never said it but I will next time that since no-one saw my ball and you're walking away, where exactly should I shoot from down the course, aside from the top of your head.
I am new to golf and try and follow all these rules. One thing I always have a problem with is when you have someone going faster than you and before you even get a chance to let them in front of you. They just look at you with their arms crossed and shaking their head. This happens a lot. Like I said I am new to golf and once I am done the hole, I will let them in front of me on the next one or if I notice them coming up I will wait for them to let them play through but not if you are disrespectful. Then I am just going to make you wait. I feel like a lot of golfers forget how it was to learn the sport.
I totally agree! Luckily there are more gents than trolls in the game but the trolls are always more vocal! I have only six months under my belt as a golfer but had lessons with the pro from day one and he taught us the etiquette . Unfortunately we still have to tolerate smug, “virtue signaling “ , headshakers who visit our club and it’s extremely disheartening for beginners.
perhaps we should all wear L plates on our hats! Good luck with your golf. 😊
I agree that it is not nice. This said, what I personnally consider the must frustrating is when people stands at address for hours, wiggling, jiggling.... I played recently with someone, not a beginner starting at address for 1 minute every shot. So I just finished not watching him play and do my stuff. That is a pitty because watching other playing is one of the pleasure we shall take away from a round.
If you find yourself slowing down play with other players waiting constantly, you may want to consider playing an easier course until you can play at a decent pace. The other thing to consider is moving up a tee box. You should be at least a single digit handicap before playing the back tees. Many new players have the misconception that they have to play the MENS tees. The tees are based on the ability not the gender so move up until you can comfortably play from the further back tees. You will enjoy the game more and you will find that people aren’t waiting behind you as often.
One guy was mad me and my friend wouldn’t let him play through (this is when we were new and didn’t even know you could do that) and literally heckled and yelled at us while we were swinging. Old guy of course.
Good video. Concerning #2, a beginning golfer might not be aware that it's much easier to follow a playing partner's ball flight if your line of sight is nearly parallel to the aiming direction (stand somewhere well behind the shot). If you're looking perpendicular to the ball's flight, the direction from your eye to the ball changes extremely fast, making the ball flight difficult to follow.
Good point. i like #2 and I can't understand how your partners don't bother to follow others drives and longer shots.
I’m glad people put these videos out. It doesn’t take much consideration given to allow others to enjoy the game. These are all easy things to grasp, and not much to ask. Be considerate, be nice, be charitable while playing.
One other thing of note is the single player. Many courses allow singles out, but as a single you have virtually no priority on the course. That means that if there is a foursome ahead of you, they don’t have to let you thru. Typically, if they have their collective heads out of their rears, they will probably allow you to play ahead. But you shouldn’t expect it. If I’m playing as a single, i hold back from the tee box. Within a hole or two, usually they just let me by without my asking. Again, be charitable.
Perhaps you should consider making more of these types of videos. Certainly golf etiquette is one of the biggest problems concerning pace of play and not to mention, unnessesary wear wear on the course, Or don't stand behind be in my putting line, when i'm playing. :)
The flip side to #2 is expecting your partners to watch you while you go through your whole pre-shot routine and practice swing malarky. Do all that first and then say "Can you keep an eye on this?" when you're actually ready!
Much agreed with all these in this clip. Being most of us are casual/recreational/social golfers with power carts part of game, I would like to add a couple. 1. Driver setting-up the passenger - Nothing irritates me more than riding with someone that pulls up to my ball ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE of the cart. Doing so makes me have to go all the way around the cart to get my info and assess the shot. Then come all the way back to get in the cart. Drivers should pull up with ball on the side of hitter and far enough away to give them room to swing. 2. Pace of play with cart (putting clubs away). - Irritates me when playing behind people who hit the ball, then take their time in putting away their clubs before heading to the next shot. I prefer (myself) to continue holding club and getting immediately into cart, then going to next shot, THEN putting club away and getting club for the current shot. Not a big deal, but I just find it would conserve time and quicken pace if club return and retrieving can occur at subsequent ball. 3. Carts playing with Walkers - As one that likes to walk, I get irritated with riders who play ahead-- sometimes getting into areas where I have to worry about their safety.. Particularly, I'm one that might peel a shot right on occasion and dislike when riders pull into area where my shots could possibly peel. 4. Carts after finished at green - Frustrating to follow (or play with) people who get done on the green, walk back to the carts, sit there and try to determine score-- sometimes taking several seconds before heading to next hole or complete round (after 18). Get your butts away to the next hole or parking lot to discuss matters and allow the group behind to hit!
As a junior golfer I was always told that is was bad etiquette to defecate in the bunkers, you should do this in the rough
I always make sure I get that out of the way in the shower before I hit the course it bad etiquette to hold up other groups
no one ever told me that I have often wondered why the glares
And if you do, make sure you use the rake to cover it over.
I thought if cats did it, so could I. We're all animals on this planet after all
C'mon, man! Do it in the woods. And always, ALWAYS carry an extra pair of socks!
I wish people at my course would watch a few etiquette videos. Shit I wish the world would watch some etiquette videos.
I hate when people drive up to my tee box waiting for their turn.. wait under a tree or something, anything except by the occupied box
Yes, unless you're playing super slow and there's no one in front of you
I love when people do that. I like the added pressure
or you could just play faster.
@@csnide6702 back ups are unavoidable and as the saying goes if you suck at golf just suck faster so there's that
Me and a friend were on the first tee once and the people after us got there a bit early and one of them rolled his remote control trolley up to the tee box. It was hilarious afterwards, but just felt extremely ignorant of him
As someone starting out, great video. Thanks for the tips!
To hear men talk about hitting down on slower players,its insane i was caddying at a competition years back a man was hit in the head with a golf ball,no fun there he waS taken away in a ambulance.people talk about etequitte but hitting down on a slower group is insane,you may have been even slower when you started playing,common sense is in small supply.
With #5, don't forget your wedge. So many clubs end up in the lost and found because the player took his putter and wedge to play the chip. Set the wedge down to play their putts,, then forget to grab their wedge when they go to play the next hole.
I've had to cross a hole to recover a club. it's kind of an awkward walk.
Pro tip. Always leave your wedge either on the green or fringe cut, in the direction you'll be leaving the green. Worst thing you can do is lay it down in the rough.
@@winstonsmith11 Even then, I've forgotten my wedge a few times, then had to scamper back to retrieve it.
Hey... I've gotten some good clubs that way..... 🤣
I take my putter cover with me. And i always put the chipping club down in the direction of the cart/bag
Thanks for this video. As a new player wanted to see what you gents had to say. Comment at 4:50... I played pro baseball for some time and 50 something now. I just decided to pick this sport up 4 months ago. I didn't appreciate it as much in my 20s and 30s but now respect the skill and mental aspect. To my point, if you are distracted by any noise in any sport you are thinking too much and not in the "zone" to where you can allow your body to do what it can. Practice visualisation and closing your mind off to external stimuli befoe you swing. If you dont know what that is read about it. I understand American Football, Football, Basketball are very much different to Tennis, Golf, and baseball; sports that are all about you and the ball at times... a horn is one thing but an airplane, chatter, bark, someone in their bag, should not bother you. I golf with some ex-athletes but one who isn't and he hates it when we are just chatting while he tees off... I will never get this but have respected it once someone says to be quiet. Just my 2 cents... and once again appreciate channels like yours.
How about making a video on treating others on the course as you would want to be treated? Most of the time I have to walk on eggshells because some old dudes feel like they own the place. If you all want to keep the decorum of the game, then it actually starts with those fools not the newcomers.
I was taught never walk on the green untill you have too, ie walk the fringe till your ball then enter the green. Would disagree with #3 as you walk back over the green then pick your bag up and walk back over the green with the added weight of the bag but that’s just me lol
Thank you for the informative, no nonsense, video!
Good video! I wish everyone would see this; it'd make golf more fun for everyone. Golf is a game where fractions of a degree can make a big difference in the outcome of a drive or a putt! The little things matter when it comes to distraction. One thing I'd add on to your greens advice is not only to carry your putter, but also more than one wedge so you're prepared when you get to your ball and assess the lie. Sometimes, the club you picked for your chip isn't the best and having to walking back to your bag for another wedge adds a lot of time.
Raking bunkers after playing your shot.
#8 - keep track of who's turn it is to buy when the girl driving the beer cart comes around
This should be WAY higher on the list!
Absolutely! And remember you're on a golf course, not a peeler club. Make your order and move on so those of us that have an actual chance with the sexy young lassie can get our work done.
Haha’
the noise thing I think is more of an old vs young thing. I don't have a radio but a lot of other 30 and 40yo members like a radio while playing but the members in their 60 and 70 get mad if you breathe in their back swing.
nobody wants to hear your garbage music while playing get headphones. its always the worse courses where people do this and the worse golfers.
Hi Neil, Im a brand new player and have just become aware of the absolute obsession with Pace of play that seems to be the number one crime we beginners are flayed for! Im trying very hard to learn as many tips as possible regarding this aspect of the game but one issue has me scratching my head! As a woman playing alongside my husband I Tee off from the red pin some distance ahead of his white Tee box. Im told that I must be ready to Tee up as soon as my husband has struck his ball and not cause a delay. Other than having my ball and Tee in one hand and driver in the other how can I safely speed up my turn?
"I'm told that I must be ready to tee up as soon as my husband has struck his ball"
Who ever said that is a huge jerk and/or dick and should stfu. Usually they are the ones who will take their sweet ass time with pre-shot stupidity, about 500 practice swings, green reading from all angles and from outer space etc., but expect everyone else to hurry.
This video applies to golf, certainly, but we could seriously use some etiquette off the course as well. Be considerate of others whether golfing or doing anything else.
Surely there are many more. 1) Ready golf, particularly when playing socially 2) Don't play pass the flag on the green. First one to putt, puts it on the ground. Last to putt out, replaces it. 3) No need for a full post-mortem prior to hitting off from next tee. While others are hitting off is the best time to mark your card for the prior hole, not standing in the middle of the green. 4) Play a provisional ball if you might have lost a ball. 5) You and your caddie have only THREE minutes to find your ball once you have arrived in the area it is most likely to be. There is no need for the whole group to trek over there. 6) Take your bag with you when looking for a ball. If you find it you don't have to do a big loop to play it.
So far this season, we've had the pleasure if playing behing groups that refuse to tee off until the group before them leaves the greens. I'm talking par 5s. As if they believe they're about to hit a 500 yard drive, only to have 3 of the 4 of them barely squib the ball past the ladies tees.
Lol
I can do one better. Often, I see players waiting in the fairway for the green to clear from over 200 yds out, when they didn't even have that distance off the tee.
uhhh……I’ve skulled one 150 off the tee but can easily hit a 3-wood 225+ when I catch it good, maybe half the time. I’m not going to hit into people on the green just because some dufus thinks I should. Good lord.
@@scooter5940 Man, (I asssume you must be a male specimen) you're awesome. But I wasn't talking about tour level pros like you. If you (and I mean a generic "you", not you personally) skull one, that's that. Mind you, if I am stuck behind you for 4+ hrs, I will notice if you a) skull it on a regular basis or b) have an inherit problem with your distances. In any case, I'd be happy to wait behind you and watch out for you to career it every once in a while.
Generally speaking, more people have a tendency to overestimate their capabilities.
Oh, and I am not a "doofus". Thanks for that little nugget of etiquette display there.
@@NTX35yeah, you are that guy (or if not you should have been). Spends the entire round bitching and moaning about what everyone around them should be doing, on the course and with their swing. Probably hits into the group in front once in awhile to “show them”. Never happy. And if you weren’t that, you would not have made the stupid comment. No one spends the round “behind me” unless the course is clogged.
With the new pin rules, I think it is helpful if you are upfront or at least vocal about your preferences, whether or not to pull the pin.
I have to ask people if they mind having the pin out basically every single round cause I can't stand putting with it in the hole. I know some people like it cause its a target, but for me it makes it look like the size of the hole is cut in half.
Learned recently not to park under oak trees in the fall. One the sound is very distracting when acorns fall on the roof and two if there's a cop around they might just start shooting at the sound...
Pet Peeve of mine: taking too many practice swings (slow play). I understand the need to take a couple for sure. That's no problem, I take a couple of swings...but I've seen many people take as many as 6-8 practice swings before actually attempting to hit.
#1 annoyance!!!
I learned early on, through sad experience, that taking a bunch of practice swings is a sure way to a ridiculous topped shot when you finally do hit. One practice swing, MAYBE two if the first is disastrous, then step up and hit it.
My dad taught me that while on the course it's ONE or NONE. If you want to take 10 practice swings, go to the range.
A great video and every new member of a club should be shown this ! unfortunately the culture of clubs have changed and its all about getting revenue for clubs to survive and unlike the old days when all new members was told the etiquette its become a thing of the past and it certainly shows at my club with no guidance .
yes.... CC's used to be exclusive and it was an honor to join or be asked to.... Now they all chase the almighty dollar and let in anyone with the money .
Slow play and not being let through is the absolute bane of golf. It’s usually Members who are playing “a competition” who are the worst. They slow play like they are trying to qualify for the Open.
Yeah, it lame if they don't let you play though. If they don't, you should get over it... They don't owe you anything
@@rayvicka9749 the irony of this response on a video about courtesy.
@@rayvicka9749 Didn't take in any of the video then? Are you the type of player who falls behind the group in front but doesn't give a damn about the backlog behind you? All this whilst commenting on a video about golfing etiquette!
@Keith Marshall I see, I must be the person who's selfish and rude for suggesting the world doesn't owe you politeness. How dare they even play on the same course.
@@kanelucas1475 Partially disagreeing with you doesn't make this ironic.
I was taught to move to the fringe of the green behind your ball and to walk on the green as little as possible. When crossing someone's line walk around the ball or marker not directly.
Thanks for this, Jezz is an impressive speaker. I recently played with an experienced Golfer who kept standing directly behind me on the tee. - .and quite close. This carried on until I accidently trod on his foot!
Another companion to #4. If someone lets you play though, DO NOT pick up any balls. Have been playing for 20 years. Never had that problem until the last few years and had it happen a few times now
Fantastic! Thanks Gents!
2:56 plenty of reason not to do this! I’ll leave my wedge on the side of the green 9 times out of ten! No harm in going to ur bag when ur buddy’s are putting or lining their putts up! It’s not speed golf! But certain things I will certainly agree with you on!! Great video! Very informative for the newbies and great refresher for us players
Good video. a lot of the folk I play with regularly & have years of experience make these inconsiderate actions a lot. Standing over a putt & someone decides to start rummaging about in their pockets with all manner of coins & shite in there is a common one. It's cheating, & I call them on it & they either laugh or apologize only to do it again & again... Maybe I need to get out with some other golfers 😂
As far as playing through - if a group has an open hole in front of them, they should let a faster group play through at the nest par 3.
One etiquette tip for long time golfers is if people ahead are slow don't hit your balls at them. Endangering people because you are being held up is never good etiquette.
Neither is being inconsiderate and deliberately slow when people are waiting.
I'll wait a reasonable amount of time, then I'm hitting up!
Faster golfers don’t have a negative effect on slow golfers, however slow golfers can destroy a quicker golfers round easily. Just step aside and let the faster players through, everyone’s happy.
@@fredwills6288 that’s true, but if your group is not keeping up with the group in front, then it is incumbent on you to let the group behind through if they are waiting.
@@ironsideeve2955 I hope you have good insurance because if you were to hit someone with that attitude it would be criminal negligence!
You should never hit your ball deliberately at a group. That’s insane. If a ball hit by a driver hits a person in the temple and they are seriously injured, how are you going to live with yourself, not to mention being sued?
I take slow play as way to work on my patience. Use the negative to develop a positive behavior in yourself. There is NO situation in which you should deliberately hit your ball into a group ahead of you. I don’t care how slow they are. It’s not acceptable.
Thanks a lot for this video
Rake bunkers and repair pitch marks as well!
3:00 and you must be extremely mindful not to forget to pick up your wedge again after putting out!
Well done gentlemen. Thank you.
Not about etiquette but a question if anyone can please help. I'm still new to golf having only started last year. I'm not very good at meeting people and only ever play with my dad who started with me. He is having a hip replacement so can't play. How do I go about meeting other people to play with?
There's a few apps you can use.
Become a member and join in on events.
If someone is behind, wave them to hit up and you may end up playing together!
Go as a solo player and tell the starter that you're OK with joining a group that may be short a player...or if a tee time is necessary, call the pro shop and ask if a group needs a 4th.
Also, I often go early in the morning hours to my local muni to play 9. As such, the starter will send me off on #10 with a partner or two. This is a great way to meet new people...and if you like playing together, you can exchange information.
When I joined a club I was informed of a group that welcomed new players, the group had 3 tee slots a week, all you did was turn up 30 minutes before the first slot and chuck your ball in the hat + £1 for whatever comp was arranged, there were normally about 12/20 of us, depending on the weather. Ask the club if there's a similar group.
Is he quitting entirely or just temporarily? I just got a hip replacement and it's the very reason I picked up golf again seeing as I can't mountain bike or snowboard for a while.
@snipeyouout he had it done june last year and was back playing regular again by September. Needs a buggy to get round as he gets sore late on if walking but otherwise fine
If people are planning and one go's left and one right and are now so far apart that won't affect your shot just play your shot don't wait 😉
Please add these to the list:
1. Take no more than two practice swings for your own good and everyone else's. If you're new, trust me - they aren't going to help much anyway.
2. Don't stand behind someone's line while they're hitting or putting, and don't stand on the other side of the hole. Also, please don't set the flag or clubs down on the other side of the hole. It's best to stand at least 10' away, not in the line of sight.
3. Keep a ball marker or coin on you, and mark your ball on the green when it's close to another player's line of putt. A tee is NOT a good ball marker when it's close to someone's line.
4. Along with the noise one that was in this video, be aware that whispering can be more distracting than a full blown conversation. Just make it a habit to look for when someone is hitting and don't make ANY noise once someone is about to address their ball.
5. If you need to wait for the group ahead and your cart partner is on the other side of the fairway, drop the person off who will be hitting second with at least two clubs in hand, and then drive to the other ball. That way you're both ready to hit when the time comes, and you can be putting your clubs away or filling divots while the other person is hitting.
6. Once you've gotten to a triple bogey or you've hit three putts, pick up your ball. You're only holding up everyone else, but no need to keep doing that to your psyche anyway.
7. Please rake your bunkers, fill in divots, and fix ball marks on the green. While you may not care about the course, you could be making someone else's shot worse by leaving your shot unrepaired. Help your playing partners by raking their bunker shots if you know that they are still away and need to hit, and fill their divots while they're cleaning their clubs and putting them away. Fix an extra ball mark or fill in an extra divot if you're able, too.
8. Finally, be aware of where you park your cart. That means not running up within 2' of the other cart in your group at the tees or greens so they can't even get to their bags, not parking the cart directly behind or too close to the ball about to be hit, and being aware of where other players are before you end up parking the cart too close to where they are about to hit. I don't know why this even needs to be said, but too many people seem to be clueless about where they are.
Fascinating 💯
This is a hugely practical and "on point" presentation.
Now please.. someone... show this to my f#@king boss.
#5b. Do now carry your bag across the green either. The additional weight will make even more depressions on it. Also, you were done with the hole so why would you walk across the green to leave it? I do not think anyone behind you would be upset waiting another 15 seconds for you to walk behind it. In fact, they could probably still hit anyway.
I'd argue against that as a golf bag only adds roughly 15kg of mass to a person... I have actually measured this for my DT project 😅 and some people would actually still weigh more without the bag than some with a bag
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Does anyone know what the blacked out putter is? Thanks
Ah 3…. Be mindful that many courses have tees and greens close together…. Making a noise (and I mean shouting roaring/laughing)on one tee or green can annoy those on another.
An absolutely perfect video!! I see all these mistakes every time I play!
I’ve never got the don’t walk in my line argument. Like the other group didn’t just walk all over the green
Probably doesn't affect a putt in a lot of conditions, however it bothers most golfers if you do it, so don't. If conditions are soft, footprint impressions can affect a putt. Those impressions will probably mostly disappear by the time a following group gets to the green.
I've played a few games now, and learned some of these on my own but I have questions about a couple of these.
The be ready rule and don't make noise rule seem to not mesh well. How can I prepare my next shot without making noise? Perhaps it's more of a lesson in tuning out poor distractions and controlling emotions, staying in a rock solid mindset.
The bag in the wrong spot will stop after a few times on a course, again control your emotion. Why would it be frustrating to see someone do this? Perhaps they think something you do is frustrating and just lets it go.
The last two go hand in hand. We talk about politeness but, then we EXPECT something out of someone who is not obligated to do anything. Why can we not be polite and Ask them to help us? Is that hard?
I understand where we come from with all of these etiquettes. There is some good in it but, if the idea is to create a more friendly, and polite environment I think we need to treat the others as human beings and not "oh I would do that so you should".
My biggest pet peeve is when carts are involved. When you've got two players in a cart, drop one player off at his ball, let him get his yardage and club, then go over to your ball and get ready. There's no reason, unless you're in his line of play, that you should wait for your cart partner to play his shot then go over to your ball and play yours.
Good plan, unless you or your partner are infirm, no one really goes in a cart if they can walk.
What drives me nuts is when people in carts leave the cart in the fairway in front of the green and then go putt. Then when they get done they have to come back, sort their stuff, put their scores down, chat, then drive around the green finally. Hit your ball on the green, then take the darn cart away, park, then putt out. People don’t plan ahead, especially occasional golfers.
@@paulthomson2375No one with money walks. It’s beneath me….
You can’t be serious?! 😂
@@erickr867 Who are you referring to? The OP, or me?
One of my biggest things is not standing directly behind another player while teeing off right in the peripheral vision my mate does this all the time and it really pisses me off other players have commented on this being off putting aswell.....
I have learned to ask people to move when they are standing in this position. I have made a mess of too many tee shots because of the distraction of people standing there, especially if they decide to move a little during your back swing, it can completely ruin your concentration. Sometimes other players get a bit shitty when I ask them to move as if I am making a big deal of nothing but if I can see them, they are in the wrong spot.
@B.Right love this mate I'm gonna stop being so polite and start doing the same it really grates me ......
To the both of you, If you are able to see what’s going on in your peripheral vision as you are set to hit and it affects you then it wasn’t the other person that put you off, you were already unfocused. People are so precious these days.
100% 👍
If you're not teeing off, there's no reason for you to be standing on the tee box. I politely ask my playing partners to stand outside the markers and no one has every taken exception.
Give me a break, have you never played in a competitve round with people watching?
My personal list:
1. Play ready golf. Figure out your lie and yardage when others are hitting.
2. People who play more than one ball off the tee. I'm okay with one mulligan...not three.
3. When you're out of the hole, pick up. No one wants to watch you plumb Bob that three footer for sextuple bogey.
4. Watch where every shot lands, including your playing partner's. It helps with pace of play and it's just a nice thing to do.
5. If you can't reach the green on your second shot, do not wait for the green to clear before hitting.
6. Always let the faster groups or single players play through.
7. Do not bring young kids or rank beginners out onto a big boy course during peak times. That's what driving ranges, pitch and putts and executive mines are for.
8. Shorten up your pre shot routine. Taking fifteen practice strokes and then duffing it fifty yards down the fairway is not a good look.
9. Don't stand in your partners sightline when waiting for him/ her to hit. It's distracting.
10. Never, never, ever give unsolicited swing advice, unless you're Butch Harmon.
11. Tend the pin for your playing partners. It's a nice thing to do.
For number two beginners should use brightly coloured balls to make tracking ball easier.
Slow play is the main topic of conversation at all levels of golf these days... I was taught, when I started playing over 40 years ago, that if you "waste" 3 minutes on each hole (very easy to do during the whole hole 😏) then you have added almost an hour on to your game. Let us all get a move on eh..?
I totally agree with you. 👍
It seems odd that during the first shot of a video on etiquette, the player who is not playing is standing directly between the tee markers.
You put your bags on the tee across😊 the whole video. At least in my club this is not allowed according to etiquette. I thought this is general etiquette isn’t it?
I've been playing a long time and I didn't know of this one. I typically will leave my bag either in the long grass, or well behind the tee markers if the tee is greatly elevated. Good to know though, thanks.
Very helpful, thanks
Wait so I shouldn't be walking across the putting line, have my shadow bothering my playing partner, nor jangling my clubs in his back swing, well, then how do you expect me to win?
No5 was actually very helpful.
These are all pretty decent tips for beginners. But hitting a ball around isn’t that serious. If you don’t know the people in front, behind, or with you; give them space and don’t be a dick.
Otherwise, just don’t wack someone over the head with your club when you hit a bad shot. Enjoy the day and have fun, that’s what it’s really about if it’s casual.
Around the 440 mark there is another that I like..... Don't stand where i can see you out of corner of my eye while I'm addressing / hitting the ball. Much like the last one with the shadow.
for #1: a golfbag does not belong inside the teebox, leave it outside in the high grass
A someone that tends to go out solo - slow play etiquette is an absolute pain - especially when you get the same 2 poor excuses:
“A solo golfer has no rights on a golf course”
“Oh we’d let you through but you’d just be stuck behind the next group”
Most of my local courses don't let singles out unless it's late in the day. You'll almost always get paired with another single or 3 some
I've heard that second one before and it burns me up.... I'll play through them as well .....
@@TheAboriginal1 that's a shitty practice as well.
@@csnide6702 not my call. Courses are busy they can't have 1 guy fill an entire tee time
I usually play in a duo, we play fast, if we catch a group and a solo is behind and I say the 2nd statement its because the group in front isnt letting us play through so it will make no difference if I let you play through. Granted the caliber of golfers in my town are idiot rednecks who show up in cut off jean shorts and belly shirts, that blast music. But I play a lot and the next closest course is like 2 hours away. So my options are limited. Also I have to deal with entire families sharing golf clubs and hitting balls 10 feet in front of them over and over, or treating the course like the driving range and hitting driver until they finally have a playable ball.
#3 - so many don't think about anyone but themselves.
What about folks having radios on there golf carts.
Don't get me started... It's becoming an epidemic at my club this year. Can't stand it. At least have the mind to turn it down when you're near other groups. I've had to ask multiple times, and it's getting under my skin.
I don’t get the need for music on the course , please ban it ! My club has a couple of groups that like loud music .
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I usually have my speaker, but it’s not obnoxiously loud and I turn it all the way down when near others in play. I appreciate the consideration of others. It’s when people are inconsiderate that bothers me.
How about other people marking your ball? I hate when people do that. Like I do a chip-in to the green and when I come to the green someone already marked my ball and went on putting. Is that normal?
The only time I mark someone else's ball is when it is in my line, it's my turn to putt, and I don't want to slow the pace of play. The other golfer may have just chipped his/her ball to the green (as you stated) and has some distance to cover to mark it him/herself. Hence, I'll mark the ball and putt. Beyond that, don't touch other people's balls.
Some of the seniors i play with seem unable to stand still or quiet for 5 seconds while someone is playing their shot and spend ages marking their card when its their turn on the tee!!
My longtime golf buddy is guilty of #6. He’ll walk between the pin and person lining up a putt all the time. He thinks that if he takes a long stride over his perceived line of your putt, he is okay. He has no clue where your line is because he can’t even lineup his own putt when standing behind his ball.😂
Don't stand behind the ball while the player is hitting! Stand behind their back so they can't see you at all. If they can see you, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MOVE UNTIL THE BALL IS IN THE AIR! So many times people will start to move toward the tee box during the downswing. Don't do it!
I got to golf with a retired golf coach and he gave me the same advice, stand where the player can’t see you and don’t stand behind the player.
@@Mick_Pickle It drives me crazy. I think because people see that view on tv they should be able to do it in real life.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf After the advice I notice many of us amateur golfers do it. I did it to help me follow the ball so we all knew where it went.
It doesn’t bother me in the slightest. I’m always looking straight down at the ball, and focusing on it with laser beams. I hit bad enough as it is doing that, leastways trying to take in my peripheral vision……
@@Mick_Pickle Sure, when you're hitting into the setting sun and you've pre-arranged it with the player that's all good. When it's people you don't know well and you're always wondering, "Are they going to move while I'm swinging?" You just don't even want that thought in your head. I played with a guy, who I'd asked several times, "can you please stand over there ..." and he kept doing it, but then he'd realize what he was doing right when I'm swinging and he'd try to quickly run away. Scared the hell out of me. Also, in a tournament where I was playing very well and driving the ball beautifully, I had a guy walk in behind me IN MY DOWNSWING. I panic hooked the ball into the hazard, dropped my club, looked at him and he said, "Did I just walk in while you were swinging?" He was a good player but just wasn't paying attention. I think we're always scared we might hit someone with the club. Most of us have accidentally hit things, swinging in the house and we absolutely don't ever want to hit anyone with a club.
All of these are why I like playing by myself.
Been playing for 20+ years now. Everything you said in this video is great! 10/10!
Once again all this is for NEW players.
Know how far you hit your clubs. Even if you get a rip into a shot, you should allow plenty of room for overage to the group ahead of you. If theres even a slight chance you may hit into them, don't swing. Accidents do happen and if this is the case, be quick to offer an apology and let the group in front know it wasn't done on purpose.
And wat if someone is standing in the (putting) line of sight behind the flag?? I asked a guy if he would please step away… he refused. “There is no rulle for that”, he said… 🙄
There is a 'spirit of the game' rule that this could come under. There's a reason pro's don't do this while the ball is still - but once the ball is moving then they move quickly to see the line of the putt.
If you come across a ball on the hole you're playing that not yours don't assume it's a lost ball free for the taking. Several times when I've hit a poor shot that landed on another fairway I've had someone pick up my ball and take before I could walk to it.
Useful I appreciate it
The Noise thing, it's all about consistency. I like a bit of music to sort of fill in the luls of conversation, because everyone having a chat behind you only to go silent as you're standing over the ball about to swing, that's almost just as bad to me as making a racket when you're trying to swing. Whatever the level of noise is, try to keep it consistent.
I always play best with tunes jamming.
Rummaging is okay, Talk is fine but when someone's about to swing, shut the hell up imo
People in my own group visiting with one another while I am trying to tee off irritates me.... there are times to visit, and there are times to keep quiet!!!
Daniel, I solved that problem. I need about 15 seconds of quiet to hit my tee shot. People in the group chit chatting as I'm trying to focus. I lose concentration. I tried looking over politely to see if they got the message, mostly not. I bought ear buds and I'm connected to Sirius XM Radio constant noise and I have total concentration and I don't have to tell them they just don't get it. It works.
Astonishing how few of these golf etiquette vids and google searches cover safety in any detail. I haven't come across one that deals with the importance of being aware of where your fellow players are at all times and actually watching them hit the ball. This not only helps avoid a fellow player being struck by a stray ball. The player hitting the ball can then confidently take their stroke as they normally would, knowing that safety is covered. Very annoying when your partner(s) are not watching you. You know if you hit a full blooded 3 wood and it slightly veers, FORE is not going to give them enough time to get out of the way and avoid serious injury. That's an unnecessary distraction to the ball player.
Related to this, once you watch you partner play their ball, you then walk out onto the fairway to play your ball, and before playing yours, you hear the sound of your partner playing a second ball from where they played the first ball. No warning. Again, not only a danger to you, but it's a further distraction before you hit your ball.
These things should be codified so people get it, because after all, safety is supposed to come first.
You’re not being sensitive about the shadows. I have a serious mental block when hitting into my shadow.
Yes. My own shadow is sometimes quite distracting to me. Can't be avoided, though.
Alas, this is not primarily people new to golf. Some of the worst culprits have done the same things for years.
I love the folks who place a marker on their ball in front of the ball, and then when placing ball back into play, they place ball before the marker. The other is moving the ball the randomly dropping the marker somewhere near where ball was at rest.
The first tactic is not etiquette, it’s a cheat.
One additional rule of etiquette from today’s modern game is to keep your Bluetooth speaker volume at a respectful level and be aware that other groups are within earshot and may not care to hear your music during their round.
Let me add a few:
1.turn off your phone and don’t use it!
2. No loud music on the carts.
3. Don’t over serve yourself or linger around the drink cart.
4. Stop throwing cigarette and cigar butts on the course.
5. Pick up your thrash when it blows off your cart
6. Have an extra ball in your pocket at all times
7. Have your distance and club selected before your turn.
8. Play ready golf
9. Get off the green area after finishing as soon as possible. Save the scorecard for the next tee box.
10. Only take 3 minutes when looking for a lost ball.
11. When in doubt…. Hit a provisional. It will save you a walk of shame.
What’s the etiquette expectations around shooting a youtube video on a golf course… group behind allow you so many takes without smashing balls at you on the green?
I watched someone hit my ball on hole 7 last time i went out. Literally watched a guy walk up with his group, look around and hit my ball before i had time to shout 😂 so messed up.
I had that happen once too... hit the crap out of my drive and had a drunk guy as part of an outing drive out to my ball(off the path to next hole) and just pocket it..... I caught up with his drunk ass after the round and gave him holy hell.
No3 doesn't bother me in the slightest No2 on the other hand i always make the effort to track other players shots the least you can do is return the favor
Not repairing ball marks on the green is my biggest pet peeve...it takes 5 seconds to repair a mark with a tool, but I see guys forgetting to do it all the time.
I'll usually fix as many ball marks on the green as I can while my partners are playing out. I'll also pick up trash off the course when I see it. I wish more people would leave the course in as good of, or even better, shape than they found it.
@@brianforrester9670 Your a proper golfer...good for you. I am in the States (USA), love your content. Cheers...!
@@nightwolf2666 In the States also. Hit 'em well!
@@brianforrester9670 And you, my friend.
If the group behind is frustrated due to the time it takes you to walk to pick up your bag, then your pace is likely not the problem - the course has probably stacked too many foursomes onto the schedule
Maintain pace of play and don't leave cleat marks on the greens. The rest are nice but have more limited impact.
Playing out of order? hitting up on players in front, hitting the wrong ball or picking up a random ball that’s not yours, teeing off from the 10th without permission, not putting the pin back in the hole, not repairing divots, or green or bunker sand with rake umm what else?
#5: Bring your wedge and putter to the ball location. Heck, sometimes I bring 3 or 4 wedges along with my putter!! The fact I can't figure out how far each club goes has NOTHING to do with it.....
I do that all the time. I’m not a great golfer, but around the green, it’s hard to say sometimes until you see your shot whether it’s best to pitch it up there with a 58, or run the ball by chipping with a pitching wedge.
Never walk across the green with your clubs
Heres another one. Play the correct tee boxes. I see way too many people playing the back tees when they drive the ball 150 yards. You are making rounds take an extra hour and a half by taking at least 4 shots to reach every green.
This one is just you being a baby lol people are allowed to play the entire course even if they aren’t very good
absolutely. If you are not hitting greens in regulation, move up tee boxes til you are.
Where people leave their power cart is especially infuriating...with people leaving them on the fairway....before the green....and then having to walk back to the cart...and preventing anyone from playing up to that point. The other one is people who take endless practice swings. I played on a course recently....where a woman ahead did about 12 practice swings...lol...while in a group of 5 people (limit is 4). It was infuriating.
I would add: don’t talk negatively about your own game. Even if you’re a rubbish new golfer, negative talk sets the wrong tone. Instead, when a putt or chip is unexpectedly close, for example, say something positive like, “That was pretty good from there!”
As for losing the ball in the rough, just play your drive straight down the middle of the fairway and you have a better chance of finding the ball
That one to keep an eye on each others shots is particularly annoying to me. Numerous times I've golfed with people who've seen me shoot and say nothing when I ask where it went. I mean don't say a peep and just walk to their ball with no concern of where or what I may need to hit or reload. Many I know saw but won't open their mouth. I think they think we're competing against each other even though they never keep score for the group. It's a weird dynamic.
I swear if it happens again....
It may be that they really didn’t see where it went. Honestly, I really struggle to see some of the more lofted shots my husband makes because the white ball disappears into the white clouds! I use bright pink balls which are super easy to spot. If you’re playing with friends why not ask them politely why they don’t help you out, it may not be intentional.
@@NannyOggins These aren't friends. Friends speak up and interact. These are at business events, acquaintances or people you get paired with. It's not common but has happened a few times. They're just rude and self involved. I'm saying literally ask if they saw it and they ignore me and leave the tee box, if I don't tell them wait for me to reload.
I've never said it but I will next time that since no-one saw my ball and you're walking away, where exactly should I shoot from down the course, aside from the top of your head.
@@hebber1961 Makes you wonder what goes on in their heads! Also why there are so few murder mysteries set on a golf course! 😉