Yeah you definitely have a point there. People stress that this game is about fundamentals, yet Claw is the best character and makes a complete mockery of this game and 95% of the cast.
Claw is a nightmare but it’s dumb to think that this invalidates any sort of “fundamentals” arguement when it comes to 2X they were very smart wall dives by tokido, and if choi reacted fast he could of done jump back fierce on a few of them to win the round. Claw is fucked but the idea that claw can just do wall dive all game is an idea that comes from people that exclusively comes from people who don’t play 2X
@@Shodan130I know, it's just kind of a meme at this point, but i am just making fun of the idea that people think that this game in particular is "all about" being honest so therefore for them "modern games = Bad" , it's the same story even when SF4 came out people were like SF4 was the "Babies game"
@@huevonesunltd it’s not so much that games are more honest, but old games are usually just a lot more simple allowing for strong fundamentals to shine more often.
@@Shodan130 yeah the idea is that it's simple enough where small optimizations in your fundamentals such as barebones "footsies" for whiff punishing set a bigger difference between players, but the thing is that people think that all match ups are "all" about that, this game also got characters that on wake up could true 50/50 to death (which still doesnt invalidate "fundamentals" before it got that situation in the first place), and are not willing to admit that just like pretty much any game there's "that one character" or "that one situation", they pretend these don't exist. It's not that it negates fundamentals but people pretend all match ups are Ryu vs Ryu or stress that this game is the epitome of balance compared to newer games when that is simply not true, it is just as crazy that a lot of other games after it. I am not saying that this game is bad but people pretend it has no flaws
@@-toadstoolicious-9851 saying Vega was broken in SF2 when Choi uses Sagat, which is pretty broken too. His only bad matchup is Vega and it not even that bad, it's like 5,5-4,5 tops
That is how people in California arcades originally pronounced his name when the game came out 1991-1994. Roo is closer to the true Japanese pronunciation than Rai-yoo is.
@@renan_1986 acho que eu escrevi errado que eu vi o daigo perdendo uma 2 vezes no campeonato para esse Vega, achei ele apelao e bem mentiroso. Mais e a vida. No caso o jogo dá raiva.
![EVO 2009: Justin Wong [L] vs. Daigo Grand Finals SFIV FULL MATCH](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YkNwnQzagbE/mqdefault.jpg)
This brings back the horrors of how annoying it was to play against vega
TOKIDO DIRTY
Oh nooo!
Tokido play super cheap but when Daigo eliminate him with cheap boxer Tokido get angry. XD
🙂😀 Oh
Boxer is hard to use...and not cheap at all
@@bao6649
I'm not talking about the characters but about the tactic each players is using to win.
Tokido spam Izuna Drop and Daigo spam Grab.
Tokyo murder face is like: 😡
Oh yeah the game that "is all about honest fundamentals"
Yeah you definitely have a point there. People stress that this game is about fundamentals, yet Claw is the best character and makes a complete mockery of this game and 95% of the cast.
Claw is a nightmare but it’s dumb to think that this invalidates any sort of “fundamentals” arguement when it comes to 2X they were very smart wall dives by tokido, and if choi reacted fast he could of done jump back fierce on a few of them to win the round. Claw is fucked but the idea that claw can just do wall dive all game is an idea that comes from people that exclusively comes from people who don’t play 2X
@@Shodan130I know, it's just kind of a meme at this point, but i am just making fun of the idea that people think that this game in particular is "all about" being honest so therefore for them "modern games = Bad" , it's the same story even when SF4 came out people were like SF4 was the "Babies game"
@@huevonesunltd it’s not so much that games are more honest, but old games are usually just a lot more simple allowing for strong fundamentals to shine more often.
@@Shodan130 yeah the idea is that it's simple enough where small optimizations in your fundamentals such as barebones "footsies" for whiff punishing set a bigger difference between players, but the thing is that people think that all match ups are "all" about that, this game also got characters that on wake up could true 50/50 to death (which still doesnt invalidate "fundamentals" before it got that situation in the first place), and are not willing to admit that just like pretty much any game there's "that one character" or "that one situation", they pretend these don't exist.
It's not that it negates fundamentals but people pretend all match ups are Ryu vs Ryu or stress that this game is the epitome of balance compared to newer games when that is simply not true, it is just as crazy that a lot of other games after it.
I am not saying that this game is bad but people pretend it has no flaws
Virtua Fighter 5 was my favorite game on EVO 2007 but I still think they needed Mortal Kombat: Armageddon and Soulcalibur 3
I know this is nine years later. But if you watch Ketchup talk about it, the 3D era MKs were horrible for competitive play. But I agree about sc3
they are rereleasing it with rollback :D
Man choi was a fucking beast
VEGA RULES !
God damn, Tokido!
commentator is Mr. Garrison from South Park
now think about that and laugh
Uh.. I’m missing something right?
Nunca mais vai existir um vega assim. 0:57
Mao claw superou ele, Shin magus também e por aí vai.
Never seen a claw like that
Damn Tokido was cheap
He always plays broken characters. Not only in SFV
@@-toadstoolicious-9851 saying Vega was broken in SF2 when Choi uses Sagat, which is pretty broken too. His only bad matchup is Vega and it not even that bad, it's like 5,5-4,5 tops
3:01 lovin' ryu with the black gi!
this is super turbo
So satisfying. Fuck old Sagat.
대단하네
Incredible bad beat from Sagat who faced many comeback from Tokido when he was supposed to win.
なんでこんな溜めずに連発できるんだ
I come from the Core A Gaming video lol.
Which video, if I may ask?
Jeez Vega's no fair
ACE AGE!!!!!
oh no!! Oh noooooh
Rush - down vs zoner
OOH NOES!
old Seth really skips “rai you” and messes up ryu so hard it’s “rOo” damb
That is how people in California arcades originally pronounced his name when the game came out 1991-1994. Roo is closer to the true Japanese pronunciation than Rai-yoo is.
@@sameerk6306 I mean I guess lo
......Tiger???
O tokido deve ter muita raiva desse vega. Kkkkkkkk
Tokido é o Vega.
@@renan_1986 acho que eu escrevi errado que eu vi o daigo perdendo uma 2 vezes no campeonato para esse Vega, achei ele apelao e bem mentiroso. Mais e a vida. No caso o jogo dá raiva.
holy crab
Damn Vega is broken i know he was mad
Good
Cheapest spammers wins
xD
Watching this is more exciting then watching 10 hours of shit SFV!
It's pronounced Suh-got!!!
It's pronounced "fah-got."
Vega plays cheap!!
These both are the broken chars of sf2 baddly..
Cheap tactics
でも今はこの程度のバルログでは通用しない。起き上がりのバルセロナの重ねが常に遅い
Seemed cheap
What's the narrator's fucking problem? Isn't he supposed to be impartial?
no one can root for vega
10 years ago. Esports didnt even exist. Commentator correctness wasn't a thing :P
I actually prefer commentators to be open about what they want. Getting tired of the correctness bullshit. People are tribal deal with it.
No respect to Tokido. Broken skill spammer.
Worst casting I've ever heard.
that's seth fuckin killian moron
Clearly a moron
Yes...He actually said..."The skulls, the rapers ...." lol