I feel like my childhood trauma has broken my nervous system. People seem repulsed by me. Very few want to coregulate with me. I find it very hard to find and maintain safe connections with humans. Thank you for helping me understand this. The knowledge allows me to not take it so personally. Now I also have tools to regulate myself and start to change the message my nervous system is broadcasting to the universe. Hopefully I can turn it around and experience some loving kindness.
Same, but knowing what's going on is such a relief! You might find TRE and EMDR helpful too, and Peter Levine's Somatic Experiencing exercises. It's going to take time, but we got this!
Let go of what has passed. Let go of what may come. Let go of what is happening now. Don’t try to figure anything out. Don’t try to make anything happen. Relax, right now, and rest.
Interestingly, my nervous system was exhausted before the pandemic, sheltering in place changed everything, to slow down, to heal, to befriend, my nervous system Thank you for sharing this information.
... Sounds true, thank you for still kicking it! I'm 80 years old now, and back in the 80s, when I was in my forties, grief was a crucially troubling issue of mine. I ordered tapes from you that helped.... I'm now over it.... for your younger listeners, I think grief would be a really important subject for you to address today.
Gosh! The 80’s don’t seem that far away. I was in my thirties and now pushing 70. It’s hard to realise just how fast our lives clip along 😮. And I know I have stuck grief in my chest. I have been stoic all my life. Rarely cry. Feel like I can’t cry. Frozen tears 😢
Ah so that's why smiling makes you feel better... interestingly smiling helps you notice more beautiful people/things/happenings... smiling at yourself for those cringy moments also brings the great relief of acceptance and compassion - and ideas for better ways. 🙏🏽 🌳🕊💚
I didn’t get to co-regulate with another human being until I was 35 years old. I did have a sense of safety. I felt safe in his arms. We were together for 3 years. After the break up I had a huge sense of being unsafe and I couldn’t understand it. My nervous system was a wreck. It was a very unfun time. It took about 4 months to even feel okay going to the store alone. You saying that we need another person to co-regulate gives me so much clarity and sadness. I’ve been working on myself for my whole life. And I’ve been thinking I have to regulate myself before seeking my future partner. This is a total paradigm shift and I don’t know what to do with it. I’ve learned that I should handle my stuff. But I also hear you say that you need a foundation to do it successfully which makes sense because I’ve done so much meditation, spirituality, therapy and it seems like something is missing. How on earth would I meet someone who will take me as I am? Unregulated. 😢
For more back story, my mother left me alone as a toddler. I was always hungry, thirsty, neglected. If she was home, she was passed out from drugs or her drug friend were there. Then she gave me a little brother. I was his caretaker as a small child myself. I didn’t know how to care for him but we were alone together. Starvation was my comfort, my constant. Sometimes she would send me to a neighbors house to eat. Sometimes I would stay at my grandmothers house. She was too old to care for me however. At 5 I was roaming the neighbourhood as much as I wanted. I came and went as I pleased. I remember one day she was asleep on the couch and I woke her up and told her I was hungry. She told me there was nothing she could do for me and she went back to sleep. I was used to it. At 6 I went into foster care. No love or attention, but I had food and necessities. Eh it’s a very long story.
@@LisaEverette that’s been a long, lonely road. We long for connection and safety but don’t always know how to believe in it or trust in it. It’s a process, and I believe self compassion helps. I wish you healing and connection.
Oh dear. What an extreme situation...I hope there was not violence as well! I found a solution to this dilemma by befriending/coregulating with nature. Pretty much leaving people out of the picture. (I was raised near wilderness, rivers, etc . which made it perfect to feel safe, calm, intimate). I began to feel so organically connected to earth, water, rocks, wind, sun* --supported, nurtured, guided, protected-- that my nervous system healed many, many wounds. It's possible! And give yourself 💚❤💙💜for making it this far, and finding resources like "sounds true"! Excellent navigation! Sending much love, empathy, respect to you (it is never easy). *and animals! Ps: lots of free stuff on line about nurturing your own "inner child"!
You have to take care of you. It is also a choice when we are older. Learn about you, care, sooth. Get know your values and boundaries. He or she that comes can come into your life May it be friendship or more . But you care of you, you have to check if they are worth it. But to feel and know it, is a journey. And you can. I believe in God. Maybe you do not, but then you have to maybe search for a filosophy that suits you. Something that inspires you. You first need to grief , heal and care for You. No one can do it for you. I too had a hard time as a kid and it is a lot of work for the wounded hearts, but you can. I am on the path...
I'm a massage therapist and this was such a lovely exploration and welcomed reminder to be mindful and kind when working with clients and their body. Thank you!
Awesome! I realise how much my biological system/nervous system has been taking care of me and protecting me. I will work on my awareness of this to be kinder to myself and others. A huge thank you!
I had an extrodinary flight 9r fight experience at age 5 with something supernatural, it was so terrifying, then shortly after that incident another horrific incident happened, ive never recovered from it, ive suffered for 52 years.
Thank you for saying that, so many recent discussions on trauma seem to be big on fighting isolation, but when I find a safe place and am left alone, I tend to re-regulate. Majority of mine are on my own as well. 💜🕉
This precious interview popped up today. Serendipitous, for sure. I used to hide to keep safe and still incline to this way of thinking, not so much now in my 40's. It was either that or all guns blazing (at least I am aware of this feeling not necessarily acting upon it), other than in protection of others. Understanding our story is so key to helping us connect and work with our bodies now and love others more deeply. Precious wisdom I will take into my day. Thank you so much. ❤️
So frustrating when the threat coming from others is so relentless that it drives your nervous system into defences like collapse, when you are trying to help hear support connect. But they are triggered and sending out traumatised threat responses which your nervous system responds as threat, because it is having that energy fired at it.
You sound like you're in a distressed space of being. I am just sending you some loving wishes - and don't freeze-frame yourself here... Everything passes... know that this feeling will pass. You're not alone in feeling like you sound like you're feeling... but it feels very alone when we're in it. Sending you love and a hug. Soul to soul.
This makes sense why I'm struggling to self regulate, as I can't seam to find any pathways, just frozen and numb, disconnected. No safe other to hold and connect to me, so I can find my self.
This was surreal. Thank you so much for sharing such a profound, life-altering knowledge so simply and crisply in an hour. This was most beautiful Tami Simon. Deb Dana Maa'm you are a freaking genius and an angel at the same time.
Great interview! This theory is connecting the dots for me on how my nervous system reacts to events and why certain actions can bring me back to a more peaceful state. I wasn't able to get to those actions before because my nervous system told me it was better for survival to stay in this inactive 'safe' state. But because these event are actually not life threatening, its better to tell my nervous system it is safe and try some regulating actions. Thank you both very much!
Thank you for this - my nervous system has been blitzed through a lifetime of trauma and I want to befriend and understand my body to give back to it empathetic compassionate communication - because it has been made to be abandoned enough.
Such an excellent show! I have recently become aware of Deb’s work and I want to learn more for myself and my clients. And, Tami, gotta say your voice brings me and others right into Ventral! Thx to you both.❤️
this really helped me to understand the polyvagal theory, which was rather complex and confusing when I tried to look into it in the past- thanks for the clear information 👍 I am going to look into the audio course as I want to learn more
Cranial atlas misalignment from car accidents etc. can pinch/ or interfere with the valgus nerves leading to: leg misalignment, tingling fingers, gall bladder problems, de-personalization disorder, head aches etc. It can be very slow and subtle, not right after the incident... I spent 7 years on a different planet.
@@Zornroeschen90 I found a Chiropractor that specializes in Cranial Atlas realignment. He re-aligns it, then after a month or so it needs to get adjusted again. Also, I'm looking into prolotherapy as a possible permanent solution. Caring Medical Florida has got some great videos/information about whiplash.
@@i-3307 cranio sacral therapy along with prolo therapy is absolutely amazing .I received 14yrs of it. Also insurance will no longer cover. How did it go for you?
@@kimberlymurchisonpetcu4936 I'm about a month into prolotherapy - so far, it's going well. Seems like the better I get the more I realize the sicker I was, if that makes sense. I will look into cranio sacral, thank you.
Thank you for this powerful way to befriend and take care of our nervous system. I’m learning to calm my nervous system through the power of cold showers and many other ways like using the polyvagal theory. Thank you.
This is a fascinating topic. While it sounds like many people bounce around between the three Vagal states of the nervous system, I believe many people, myself included, get stuck in a long term freeze (Dorsal) from childhood trauma. We get cut off from our life force, our energy flow, our spirit. Many of us have been trying to heal/release deeply embedded emotional wounds with mental therapy, when it’s the body and nervous system that need to be healed. Also, I can’t help but wonder how many learning blocks and disabilities are the result of not being in the Ventral Vagal state enough, considering that when you’re in one of the other two states you’re not connected to your frontal cortex. That detail was a little shocking. Thank you both. 💛
Very important basic life skills: understanding, knowing our nervous system, how to regulate it and co-regulate in connection with others. This knowing and practices are key for human evolution out of survival. In particular, the use of scientific concepts and terminology is more appealing to western culture. Until now this wisdom and practices have been more at the basis of ancient eastern (yogic, tantric, buddhist) traditions and practices. Yet maybe their intutive, more symbolic, methaphoric and mythic language may have been less accessible to all and to a more scientific mindset. Thank you for this work.
So fantastic, I really loved and appreciated the visual description for the map of the vagus nerve, my favorite was the hand on the back of the neck and stomach. ~ thank you to the both of you!
This is a wonderful conversation as so many of the Sounds True are. But I just wish that the sound quality was better. It becomes a little frustrating not to quite relax and let it in. Hope that might be fixed. Thank you!
So I've just realized I've never learnt to coregulate with people. It sounds like my disregulated nervous system automatically sends out signals to everyone else's systems. That may be the reason people haven't wanted to coregulate with me. What an interesting cycle lol.
When I started going to a NUUCA chiropractor, who does upper cervical manipulation and adjusts the Atlas bone and hips, I found myself more relaxed. I’m thinking that they probably adjusted my vagus nerve as well. Maybe?
Thank you to both of you for one of the most interesting podcasts I've ever listened to - I am grateful and inspired to begin my new friendship with my nervous system and to share this information with friends and colleagues and people everywhere! What wonderful insights and beautiful intentions for helping humanity to heal from the inside out! We can do this!
The sound for this is low quality. On my TV it is unlistenable, and simply listening from my mobile phone's speakers unlistenable. I had to connect earbuds to my phone to listen, and the tone is still tinny.
Deb articulates this important theory in such an accessible way. This was the best interview I’ve listened to on this subject. I’ll be sharing with so many of my friends and family. Thank you. Excellent interview skills helped to deepen the learning and experience also.
Can you show some gratitude and manners for a high quality, free content video? Words like please can go along way. My nervous system couldn’t bear to read your comment, and I am serious.
@@Jgjules Friend, if you please...and if I may, a question? Is it possible we could all express gratitude in ways the moment and persons of all temperament can participate in without fail? Personally, I don't think that's precisely possible, and I am grateful that forgiveness can ease that and further healing and love. Forgive me if I have somehow been an intrusion or given offense.
This was wonderful! I went to order Deb Dana's book, to discover that it is only available in audio form. As a visual & kinesthetic learner who has difficulty with any complex subject presented solely to my ears😊, I really wish this material were available in print. Anyone have a great suggestion?
I’ve noticed I’m bringing my nervous system back online after being offline for a long time. I’m noticing the nervous systems pulsating a lot over the last few months. Is this a sign that the nervous system is healing from trauma??
I agree that co-regulation is healing, I am suffering CPTSD, and when I try to go out and find people who are safe, I’m struggling to find authentic safe people. How do you cope when u are unable to resource with others? When I’m depersonalizing and dissociating ( in freeze) I’m not gonna be able to meet new people. Isn’t there a certain amount of self resilience that we need to start with to discern who is safe and caring? Particularly since I’ve had a history of narcisstic abuse and a HSP, I can’t help but feel re-traumatized that I’m somehow not worthy of full healing since I can’t find people to co-regulate with…. Any suggestions on how to befriend from that place?
LOL, safe people in the world? Most them walk in the edge. You have to take care only of your nervous system and it take care of those out there. If you are safe, you put all out there safety and move your way around. That is Nervous System in excelence performing it task.
Write a list of hardline boundaries for yourself. (Personal boundaries that you don’t want crossed under any circumstances) pen to paper not notes. This helps you to remember them because you had to think of them to write them and writing them seals them in your mind. When you come accross a new person let them know things that you don’t want. If they cross your boundary /s, notice the first time and act immediately communicating the cross and how it made you feel. People who continually do it aren’t for you. 🥰👍🏻👍🏻
This is so powerful. I start my clinical counseling with clients internship next week. I am so happy I found this interview! How can I find more information on training?
When you talk about reigniting that we’ve disconnected I call that the domino effect. Recognizing the first domino is the hardest part. Remembering to breathe is also something that’s difficult for me to remember. My head has hurt constantly for 3 or 4 days. Probably because I’m not breathing LOL
I just listened to your opening clear as a bell good volume....and was disappointed when you moved on to the part where you were introducing your guest Deb....the audio is not that good or clear or good volume...Your guest is actually Garbled...I hope this will not be the norm..this is too important..Im very excited...THANKYOU for this!!! Just letting you know
@@antoinettefekete The reply is quite late but if it helps there are three vertical dots near the like, dislike, save icons...click on that and activate the Transcript. It may not always be perfect transcription but it helps when the sound is garbled.
After making meditation for a season , I feel like I am ready to die. I found a super peacefulness inside of myself which we can find no where outside in our society.
Do you know what brings on that response? You might be able to identify those things and in a safe place invite 5% of that feeling and observe your thoughts (without attachment) and catch that response by familiarity, to what triggers it for you. I do zen meditation and it’s taken some time of practice to reach the still waters found within. 👍🏻
My daughter has intractable epilepsy and a Vagal Nerve Stimulator implanted. Can you explain how this may affect her in flight or flight? She is becoming increasingly withdrawn into her world.
I feel as if I have spent most of my life in that step back , disappear place. I can't ever seem to be able to take action and step out of hibernation. For a long time I have thought I am on the autism spectrum, but unfortunately here there is no provision for adults to be tested. I am not sure if knowing would help me break out of this stagnation. I feel permanently stuck and can't break free of it.
서주희 acupuncture can be used in a variety of ways, there are many styles and many theories. I work both energetically lightly and at times employ deeper insertion styles. Whatever the approach acupuncture is a wonderful acknowledgement and interaction with the body’s ability to right itself, whether structurally, functionally or emotionally. After 20 yrs of experience I still find it rewarding and fascinating . It continues to be a mystery with capabilities of healing just waiting to be interacted with. Thanks for asking
It was hard to hear your introduction of your speaker because your background music is so loud. Would be easier to hear you if you lower the volume of the music in the intro. I was completely lost in this presentation and didn't understand any of it which is frustrating to me because I am a college graduate but after 20 minutes I had to stop listening because it wasn't making any sense to me. I have multiple sclerosis and I would love to understand my nervous system and Tami really tried to pull things out of the author and I'm glad Tami understood something to ask a question but it just did not work for me and this author is speaking at some other level. Glad I listened to this and I didn't buy a product from her because I would have to return it.
So interesting. Makes sense. What if you have been told by nero that you have Autonomic dysfuntion. With this there is loss of control. Can you add to anything that includes autonomic system?
Listen to Gabor Mate on UA-cam . He mentions als a lot . Is it true that people with als are extraordinarily nice and put others before them all the time ?
This seems so basic! We may wish to know how to carry on and improve our responses when we’re in situations that require fast response or situations that drag in and on without resolve. For example how can we help clinicians get more comfortable in end of life conversations where they need to make hospice referrals or listen to the dying person who doesn’t want more treatment. Get to it. We’re not sending someone to a music room, or to the woods or to a therapeutic breathing class. We need to respond now. How does that happen? This conversation offers nothing beyond “relax”. We’ll commanding someone to relax doesn’t work usually.
So much stuff nowadays on vagus nerve . And i have not found any of the advice, breathwork, etc makes any difference. I am( and millions ) stuck in fight or flight , and none of the techniques work. Other trauma specialists such as irene lyon suggest somatic work, so much information and so confusing . Would be miraculous to have one technique that is actually capable of getting us efficiently out of fight or flight and into rest and digest. I have yet to find anything
Tami in reality. Love this work however Deb seems out of touch with an extremely violent world for the majority of the world especially toward women, children & girls. Based on this our nervous systems are working fine & this explains the epidemic of anxiety etc. if your not u regulated ur abnormal. No wonder we struggle humans are violent & abusive.
Another one of those talks.... It is quite damaging for people like myself, I have ALS/Motor Neurone Disease, that just by following your technique we all can be cured. It is actually quite ableist and shows intolerancy of people with disabilities and/or illnesses. The opposite of helpful
This one is a bust for me. 40 minutes in and it still has nothing to do with the title. If I wanted to hear terminology and credits to which scientist did what research, I would read medical journals about the nervous system. I came to this video to learn applications for polyvagal theory that will benefit my life. Instead, all I've gotten is continual references to being "in" this pathway or that pathway.
I feel like my childhood trauma has broken my nervous system. People seem repulsed by me. Very few want to coregulate with me. I find it very hard to find and maintain safe connections with humans. Thank you for helping me understand this. The knowledge allows me to not take it so personally. Now I also have tools to regulate myself and start to change the message my nervous system is broadcasting to the universe. Hopefully I can turn it around and experience some loving kindness.
Same, but knowing what's going on is such a relief! You might find TRE and EMDR helpful too, and Peter Levine's Somatic Experiencing exercises. It's going to take time, but we got this!
Yes, you got this! We got this! I already changed a lot, over years, and it is so rewarding then to see that it is possible!
Let go of what has passed.
Let go of what may come.
Let go of what is happening now.
Don’t try to figure anything out.
Don’t try to make anything happen.
Relax, right now, and rest.
Needed to read this!
That sounds almost like a prayer. Taking note of it and thanks! 😀
I think you missed the point.
Interestingly, my nervous system was exhausted before the pandemic, sheltering in place changed everything,
to slow down, to heal, to befriend, my nervous system Thank you for sharing this information.
... Sounds true, thank you for still kicking it! I'm 80 years old now, and back in the 80s, when I was in my forties, grief was a crucially troubling issue of mine. I ordered tapes from you that helped.... I'm now over it.... for your younger listeners, I think grief would be a really important subject for you to address today.
Gosh! The 80’s don’t seem that far away. I was in my thirties and now pushing 70. It’s hard to realise just how fast our lives clip along 😮. And I know I have stuck grief in my chest. I have been stoic all my life. Rarely cry. Feel like I can’t cry. Frozen tears 😢
Ah so that's why smiling makes you feel better... interestingly smiling helps you notice more beautiful people/things/happenings... smiling at yourself for those cringy moments also brings the great relief of acceptance and compassion - and ideas for better ways.
🙏🏽 🌳🕊💚
I didn’t get to co-regulate with another human being until I was 35 years old. I did have a sense of safety. I felt safe in his arms. We were together for 3 years. After the break up I had a huge sense of being unsafe and I couldn’t understand it. My nervous system was a wreck. It was a very unfun time. It took about 4 months to even feel okay going to the store alone.
You saying that we need another person to co-regulate gives me so much clarity and sadness.
I’ve been working on myself for my whole life. And I’ve been thinking I have to regulate myself before seeking my future partner. This is a total paradigm shift and I don’t know what to do with it.
I’ve learned that I should handle my stuff. But I also hear you say that you need a foundation to do it successfully which makes sense because I’ve done so much meditation, spirituality, therapy and it seems like something is missing. How on earth would I meet someone who will take me as I am? Unregulated. 😢
For more back story, my mother left me alone as a toddler. I was always hungry, thirsty, neglected. If she was home, she was passed out from drugs or her drug friend were there. Then she gave me a little brother. I was his caretaker as a small child myself. I didn’t know how to care for him but we were alone together. Starvation was my comfort, my constant. Sometimes she would send me to a neighbors house to eat. Sometimes I would stay at my grandmothers house. She was too old to care for me however. At 5 I was roaming the neighbourhood as much as I wanted. I came and went as I pleased. I remember one day she was asleep on the couch and I woke her up and told her I was hungry. She told me there was nothing she could do for me and she went back to sleep. I was used to it.
At 6 I went into foster care. No love or attention, but I had food and necessities. Eh it’s a very long story.
@@LisaEverette that’s been a long, lonely road. We long for connection and safety but don’t always know how to believe in it or trust in it. It’s a process, and I believe self compassion helps. I wish you healing and connection.
Oh dear. What an extreme situation...I hope there was not violence as well!
I found a solution to this dilemma by befriending/coregulating with nature. Pretty much leaving people out of the picture. (I was raised near wilderness, rivers, etc . which made it perfect to feel safe, calm, intimate). I began to feel so organically connected to earth, water, rocks, wind, sun* --supported, nurtured, guided, protected-- that my nervous system healed many, many wounds. It's possible! And give yourself 💚❤💙💜for making it this far, and finding resources like "sounds true"! Excellent navigation! Sending much love, empathy, respect to you (it is never easy).
*and animals!
Ps: lots of free stuff on line about nurturing your own "inner child"!
You have to take care of you. It is also a choice when we are older. Learn about you, care, sooth. Get know your values and boundaries. He or she that comes can come into your life May it be friendship or more . But you care of you, you have to check if they are worth it. But to feel and know it, is a journey. And you can. I believe in God. Maybe you do not, but then you have to maybe search for a filosophy that suits you. Something that inspires you.
You first need to grief , heal and care for You. No one can do it for you. I too had a hard time as a kid and it is a lot of work for the wounded hearts, but you can. I am on the path...
I'm a massage therapist and this was such a lovely exploration and welcomed reminder to be mindful and kind when working with clients and their body. Thank you!
What state do you work in?
Collapsing to survive a threat...is how many of us have survived.
Awesome! I realise how much my biological system/nervous system has been taking care of me and protecting me. I will work on my awareness of this to be kinder to myself and others.
A huge thank you!
I had an extrodinary flight 9r fight experience at age 5 with something supernatural, it was so terrifying, then shortly after that incident another horrific incident happened, ive never recovered from it, ive suffered for 52 years.
nourishing my nervous system is majority of time separate from others
Sounds fantastic! 😊
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Thank you for saying that, so many recent discussions on trauma seem to be big on fighting isolation, but when I find a safe place and am left alone, I tend to re-regulate. Majority of mine are on my own as well. 💜🕉
Loving other’s
Me too.
This precious interview popped up today. Serendipitous, for sure. I used to hide to keep safe and still incline to this way of thinking, not so much now in my 40's. It was either that or all guns blazing (at least I am aware of this feeling not necessarily acting upon it), other than in protection of others. Understanding our story is so key to helping us connect and work with our bodies now and love others more deeply. Precious wisdom I will take into my day. Thank you so much. ❤️
So frustrating when the threat coming from others is so relentless that it drives your nervous system into defences like collapse, when you are trying to help hear support connect. But they are triggered and sending out traumatised threat responses which your nervous system responds as threat, because it is having that energy fired at it.
You sound like you're in a distressed space of being. I am just sending you some loving wishes - and don't freeze-frame yourself here... Everything passes... know that this feeling will pass. You're not alone in feeling like you sound like you're feeling... but it feels very alone when we're in it. Sending you love and a hug. Soul to soul.
This makes sense why I'm struggling to self regulate, as I can't seam to find any pathways, just frozen and numb, disconnected. No safe other to hold and connect to me, so I can find my self.
Exactly what you said ~
I tried connecting to my (much) younger self and reassuring her which really seemed to help
inner child work has been helpful to me too @@katerodde
This was surreal. Thank you so much for sharing such a profound, life-altering knowledge so simply and crisply in an hour. This was most beautiful Tami Simon. Deb Dana Maa'm you are a freaking genius and an angel at the same time.
Great interview! This theory is connecting the dots for me on how my nervous system reacts to events and why certain actions can bring me back to a more peaceful state. I wasn't able to get to those actions before because my nervous system told me it was better for survival to stay in this inactive 'safe' state. But because these event are actually not life threatening, its better to tell my nervous system it is safe and try some regulating actions. Thank you both very much!
Thank you for this - my nervous system has been blitzed through a lifetime of trauma and I want to befriend and understand my body to give back to it empathetic compassionate communication - because it has been made to be abandoned enough.
ditto
Great conversation but the sound quality was so frustrating.
Too bad the sound is so bad- I would have really enjoyed this!!!
? Hm. Sounds fine to me
Such an excellent show! I have recently become aware of Deb’s work and I want to learn more for myself and my clients. And, Tami, gotta say your voice brings me and others right into Ventral! Thx to you both.❤️
this really helped me to understand the polyvagal theory, which was rather complex and confusing when I tried to look into it in the past- thanks for the clear information 👍 I am going to look into the audio course as I want to learn more
Cranial atlas misalignment from car accidents etc. can pinch/ or interfere with the valgus nerves leading to: leg misalignment, tingling fingers, gall bladder problems, de-personalization disorder, head aches etc. It can be very slow and subtle, not right after the incident... I spent 7 years on a different planet.
This rings a bell! :o What did you do about the misalignment?
@@Zornroeschen90 I found a Chiropractor that specializes in Cranial Atlas realignment. He re-aligns it, then after a month or so it needs to get adjusted again. Also, I'm looking into prolotherapy as a possible permanent solution. Caring Medical Florida has got some great videos/information about whiplash.
@@i-3307 cranio sacral therapy along with prolo therapy is absolutely amazing .I received 14yrs of it. Also insurance will no longer cover. How did it go for you?
@@kimberlymurchisonpetcu4936 I'm about a month into prolotherapy - so far, it's going well. Seems like the better I get the more I realize the sicker I was, if that makes sense. I will look into cranio sacral, thank you.
Thank you for this powerful way to befriend and take care of our nervous system. I’m learning to calm my nervous system through the power of cold showers and many other ways like using the polyvagal theory. Thank you.
This is a fascinating topic. While it sounds like many people bounce around between the three Vagal states of the nervous system, I believe many people, myself included, get stuck in a long term freeze (Dorsal) from childhood trauma. We get cut off from our life force, our energy flow, our spirit. Many of us have been trying to heal/release deeply embedded emotional wounds with mental therapy, when it’s the body and nervous system that need to be healed.
Also, I can’t help but wonder how many learning blocks and disabilities are the result of not being in the Ventral Vagal state enough, considering that when you’re in one of the other two states you’re not connected to your frontal cortex. That detail was a little shocking.
Thank you both. 💛
I feel exactly the same way.
I am absolutely thrilled you shared this with us
Very important basic life skills: understanding, knowing our nervous system, how to regulate it and co-regulate in connection with others. This knowing and practices are key for human evolution out of survival. In particular, the use of scientific concepts and terminology is more appealing to western culture. Until now this wisdom and practices have been more at the basis of ancient eastern (yogic, tantric, buddhist) traditions and practices. Yet maybe their intutive, more symbolic, methaphoric and mythic language may have been less accessible to all and to a more scientific mindset. Thank you for this work.
So fantastic, I really loved and appreciated the visual description for the map of the vagus nerve, my favorite was the hand on the back of the neck and stomach. ~ thank you to the both of you!
What an important conversation in which these complex concepts were explained in the most understandable way. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
This is a wonderful conversation as so many of the Sounds True are. But I just wish that the sound quality was better. It becomes a little frustrating not to quite relax and let it in. Hope that might be fixed. Thank you!
So I've just realized I've never learnt to coregulate with people. It sounds like my disregulated nervous system automatically sends out signals to everyone else's systems. That may be the reason people haven't wanted to coregulate with me. What an interesting cycle lol.
Ohhh I like what your saying here, maybe your on to something.
Watch some heartmath videas to learn what is happening in the energy system whe you experience this. You will love it!
I feel this statement- going to share with peer specialists.
@@lenoredavi6137 I love that you brought up heartmath
It's an incredibly unfair cycle
When I started going to a NUUCA chiropractor, who does upper cervical manipulation and adjusts the Atlas bone and hips, I found myself more relaxed. I’m thinking that they probably adjusted my vagus nerve as well. Maybe?
Thank you to both of you for one of the most interesting podcasts I've ever listened to - I am grateful and inspired to begin my new friendship with my nervous system and to share this information with friends and colleagues and people everywhere! What wonderful insights and beautiful intentions for helping humanity to heal from the inside out! We can do this!
Great interview! Is there by any chance a recording of this with better sound quality? I’m having a hard time picking up every word …
Brilliant talk on polyvagal theory and practice. The connection to attachment is enlightening 🙏😃. Thank you!
The sound for this is low quality. On my TV it is unlistenable, and simply listening from my mobile phone's speakers unlistenable. I had to connect earbuds to my phone to listen, and the tone is still tinny.
Deb articulates this important theory in such an accessible way. This was the best interview I’ve listened to on this subject. I’ll be sharing with so many of my friends and family. Thank you. Excellent interview skills helped to deepen the learning and experience also.
9:14 "when our nervous system is safely resting in this ___? ___ state..." I can't understand that word. The sound quality is subpar.
Newest???
Yes “this newest state which we call ventral vagal”
Subtitles are very helpful
can you edit it through a better sound editor? my nervous system couldn't bear to hear the interview and I am serious.
The deep static sound at the start of words made me feel nervous, and turning down the volume helped me.
Could definitely be better, but feels like listening to AM radio in my family's old Volvo way back when.
Can you show some gratitude and manners for a high quality, free content video? Words like please can go along way. My nervous system couldn’t bear to read your comment, and I am serious.
@@Jgjules Friend, if you please...and if I may, a question?
Is it possible we could all express gratitude in ways the moment and persons of all temperament can participate in without fail?
Personally, I don't think that's precisely possible, and I am grateful that forgiveness can ease that and further healing and love.
Forgive me if I have somehow been an intrusion or given offense.
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This was wonderful!
I went to order Deb Dana's book, to discover that it is only available in audio form.
As a visual & kinesthetic learner who has difficulty with any complex subject presented solely to my ears😊, I really wish this material were available in print.
Anyone have a great suggestion?
Her other book called 'Anchored' perhaps?
Tami, excellent interviewer!keep it up! You are amazing…. I love your voice 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Thank you for the shared information. This is a new perspective of the fear/digestion prerogative. Hope the is more about this topic in here.
I’ve noticed I’m bringing my nervous system back online after being offline for a long time. I’m noticing the nervous systems pulsating a lot over the last few months. Is this a sign that the nervous system is healing from trauma??
Like so many other comments made, the poor sound quality makes this fascinating subject unavailable to me - can it be improved?
Gratitude!! 💜💚 Thank you so much!!
I agree that co-regulation is healing, I am suffering CPTSD, and when I try to go out and find people who are safe, I’m struggling to find authentic safe people.
How do you cope when u are unable to resource with others? When I’m depersonalizing and dissociating ( in freeze) I’m not gonna be able to meet new people. Isn’t there a certain amount of self resilience that we need to start with to discern who is safe and caring? Particularly since I’ve had a history of narcisstic abuse and a HSP, I can’t help but feel re-traumatized that I’m somehow not worthy of full healing since I can’t find people to co-regulate with….
Any suggestions on how to befriend from that place?
LOL, safe people in the world? Most them walk in the edge. You have to take care only of your nervous system and it take care of those out there. If you are safe, you put all out there safety and move your way around. That is Nervous System in excelence performing it task.
Write a list of hardline boundaries for yourself. (Personal boundaries that you don’t want crossed under any circumstances) pen to paper not notes. This helps you to remember them because you had to think of them to write them and writing them seals them in your mind.
When you come accross a new person let them know things that you don’t want. If they cross your boundary /s, notice the first time and act immediately communicating the cross and how it made you feel. People who continually do it aren’t for you. 🥰👍🏻👍🏻
This is so powerful. I start my clinical counseling with clients internship next week. I am so happy I found this interview! How can I find more information on training?
My nervous system is struggling with the drum and bass track over the voice over at the beginning!
Thank you Deb and Tami 🙏🏼💜
When you talk about reigniting that we’ve disconnected I call that the domino effect. Recognizing the first domino is the hardest part. Remembering to breathe is also something that’s difficult for me to remember. My head has hurt constantly for 3 or 4 days. Probably because I’m not breathing LOL
Thanks for sharing this quality content
This was so inspiring and enlightening. Thank you!
I found this helpful in understanding oneself and others around me with more compassion .thank you x
The audio is sooo bad, I can't understand what's being said.
In my opinion, what you have to say deserves better sound. You need to talk to a sound technician.
What do you do if there is no one around you that you can co-regulate with?
I just listened to your opening clear as a bell good volume....and was disappointed when you moved on to the part where you were introducing your guest Deb....the audio is not that good or clear or good volume...Your guest is actually Garbled...I hope this will not be the norm..this is too important..Im very excited...THANKYOU for this!!! Just letting you know
Yes, I desperately want to absorb this information but must repeatedly rewind for comprehension because I'm struggling to hear.
same here!!!
@@antoinettefekete The reply is quite late but if it helps there are three vertical dots near the like, dislike, save icons...click on that and activate the Transcript. It may not always be perfect transcription but it helps when the sound is garbled.
sound is really bad..... so unfortunate
Subtitles are very helpful 😜
Fabulous and shared!!! Thank you❣🙏💯
After making meditation for a season ,
I feel like I am ready to die.
I found a super peacefulness inside of myself which we can find no where outside in our society.
This was life changing thank you
What are your comments for someone with multiple sclerosis where the mylin around the nerve is damaged so interrupts the messages.
Great question , I have lupus
What breath do you do if your in the death immobilisation shutdown response?
Do you know what brings on that response? You might be able to identify those things and in a safe place invite 5% of that feeling and observe your thoughts (without attachment) and catch that response by familiarity, to what triggers it for you. I do zen meditation and it’s taken some time of practice to reach the still waters found within. 👍🏻
Thank you so much🙏🏻🌸❤️
Ground breaking! 🌄
Thank you very much 💖
Wonderful interview. Thank you so much 🙏
Hello 👋 dear how are you doing today I hope to hear from you soon
The intro music is so loud and clear, it buried the introduction
My daughter has intractable epilepsy and a Vagal Nerve Stimulator implanted. Can you explain how this may affect her in flight or flight? She is becoming increasingly withdrawn into her world.
I feel as if I have spent most of my life in that step back , disappear place. I can't ever seem to be able to take action and step out of hibernation. For a long time I have thought I am on the autism spectrum, but unfortunately here there is no provision for adults to be tested. I am not sure if knowing would help me break out of this stagnation. I feel permanently stuck and can't break free of it.
Brilliant and inspiring conversation
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Thank you . Acupuncture can be a wonderful and reliable nervous system regulator. Our ancients were on to it !
I wonder why you think like this.^^ Can you explain more about acupuncture as nervous system regulator?
서주희 acupuncture can be used in a variety of ways, there are many styles and many theories. I work both energetically lightly and at times employ deeper insertion styles. Whatever the approach acupuncture is a wonderful acknowledgement and interaction with the body’s ability to right itself, whether structurally, functionally or emotionally. After 20 yrs of experience I still find it rewarding and fascinating . It continues to be a mystery with capabilities of healing just waiting to be interacted with. Thanks for asking
Rosanne Emanuele Thank you for kind reply.^^
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It was hard to hear your introduction of your speaker because your background music is so loud. Would be easier to hear you if you lower the volume of the music in the intro. I was completely lost in this presentation and didn't understand any of it which is frustrating to me because I am a college graduate but after 20 minutes I had to stop listening because it wasn't making any sense to me. I have multiple sclerosis and I would love to understand my nervous system and Tami really tried to pull things out of the author and I'm glad Tami understood something to ask a question but it just did not work for me and this author is speaking at some other level. Glad I listened to this and I didn't buy a product from her because I would have to return it.
Try starting with learning more about nervous system anatomy & physiology as building blocks
Common Sense! It can be figured out by one's self. Great that someone is taking others through the baby steps!
28:00 exercise
What about a person with Cerebral Palsy and his nervous system?
Right. And some w spinal cord injury.
Is Deb Dana a SEP ( Somatic Experiencing Practitioner ) ?
So interesting. Makes sense. What if you have been told by nero that you have Autonomic dysfuntion. With this there is loss of control. Can you add to anything that includes autonomic system?
Why the background music? Very distracting x
So if i can stimulate my nervous system i should be able to reverse my als
Listen to Gabor Mate on UA-cam . He mentions als a lot . Is it true that people with als are extraordinarily nice and put others before them all the time ?
Please workout the mic situation
Very muddy sounding and almost unlistenable
This seems so basic! We may wish to know how to carry on and improve our responses when we’re in situations that require fast response or situations that drag in and on without resolve. For example how can we help clinicians get more comfortable in end of life conversations where they need to make hospice referrals or listen to the dying person who doesn’t want more treatment. Get to it. We’re not sending someone to a music room, or to the woods or to a therapeutic breathing class. We need to respond now. How does that happen? This conversation offers nothing beyond “relax”. We’ll commanding someone to relax doesn’t work usually.
Bad sound 😞
But subtitles are very helpful
Thanks from the owwwwww body for any excellent advisement
Sadly the sound is awful and not possible to continue listening...
So much stuff nowadays on vagus nerve . And i have not found any of the advice, breathwork, etc makes any difference. I am( and millions ) stuck in fight or flight , and none of the techniques work. Other trauma specialists such as irene lyon suggest somatic work, so much information and so confusing . Would be miraculous to have one technique that is actually capable of getting us efficiently out of fight or flight and into rest and digest. I have yet to find anything
Have you tried Wim Hoff method?
Poor audio
Wanted to listen but
Mind over matter, if you don't mind it don't matter 😉✌️💓
music already has me feeling sick .
I am sure this channel means well but I would rather have information that is true rather than that sounds true but isn't.
Check out Stephen Porges. He will give you the science side of what’s happening. 👍🏻
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Tami in reality. Love this work however Deb seems out of touch with an extremely violent world for the majority of the world especially toward women, children & girls. Based on this our nervous systems are working fine & this explains the epidemic of anxiety etc. if your not u regulated ur abnormal. No wonder we struggle humans are violent & abusive.
Another one of those talks.... It is quite damaging for people like myself, I have ALS/Motor Neurone Disease, that just by following your technique we all can be cured. It is actually quite ableist and shows intolerancy of people with disabilities and/or illnesses. The opposite of helpful
Awful sound quality.
Someone that have difficulties understand the polyvagal theory have to be a person that relies very much on his/her ego.
what???
I could only tolerate the poor sound quality for 8 minutes. I’m out of here.
Psy101.
Her mumbling is distracting to the content. THAT is overwhelming 😝
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This one is a bust for me. 40 minutes in and it still has nothing to do with the title. If I wanted to hear terminology and credits to which scientist did what research, I would read medical journals about the nervous system. I came to this video to learn applications for polyvagal theory that will benefit my life. Instead, all I've gotten is continual references to being "in" this pathway or that pathway.
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