I immediately teared up when he read the “To the survivors of trauma who heroically searched for safety” ❤…. So grateful to have found this. Thank you. 🙏
I did too! I’m so glad you wrote it out in the comments. I have reread it several times, and I’m only half way into the video right now. That one quote, makes me feel seen and not alone.
I’m so grateful I came across your channel! ❤ I’ve been living with chronic pain for over 10 years already and your podcasts and teachings feel the right direction to go towards health. Thank you Dr. Perry! ❤
14:35 This is a very good reason to not get Botox! I even heard that botoxed people start to feel less empathy over time, because not being able to make certain facial expressions can inhibit empathy. No thank you. Bring on the 11s and wrinkles! ❤
We were taught to do vagotomy to treat peptic ulcers due to stress. This was in Royal College of surgeons of Edinburgh Scotland in 1968 studying general surgery. This is science 50 we know will change and 50 we don’t know but we keep trying. Thanks God blessings. We want more tools and protocols for ordinary people to regulate their emotions and autonomic nervous system.
I learned about responding to the environment through watching horses. I grew up as an only child and we moved around a lot, but horses were a constant. I spent most of my time with them during the summers, watching the herd respond to each other and the environment. I was often lonely so horses became my friends. Having this background lead me to Dr. Porges in school. I love Polyvagal theory. It makes so much sense to me. After all, humans are mammals who have been trained to be humans. I love your work so much Dr. Porges. I would love to work with you doing research with horses.
From my spiritual perspective, loving thySelf aids body& mind awareness ❤ Referring to the beginning of the video how we communicate with our pets is typical of how we use sound , tone & facial/body movement. My dog for example doesn't speak my language but we communicate well ❤
Ah this was great thank you all so much. I’ve recently got into Polyvagal theory in my healing journey and it’s another big key. Great questions you asked too thank you Dr Perrin. I also love I was 888th like of the video especially as I’m presently in the midst of 28day abundance affirmations 😁🌟💜🙏🕊️🌈
@ hahaha yes oopsy Dr. Perry I meant you, I knew I should have double checked my spelling before I pressed send lol. I do have his Perrin technique book but I knew it was you not him lol. Note to self, it’s Perry, remember it’s Perry… Dr. Perry 😆😘
We do support groups for grieving and traumatized children stressing safety and play. I used to think the positive impact was magic. Polyvagal theory taught me it was biological. It helps us to bring more understanding to our staff, volunteers, and caregivers.
Great discussion, ty❤ I’m a supporter of the concepts in the polyvagal theory. Before I knew about Dr Porges, I implemented various positive psychology to reduce my symptoms and limit the stress response. In my opinion, Dr Porges oversimplifies disorders of the Autonomic Nervous System midway through. Beyond trauma or chronic stress, some conditions like Ehlers danlos naturally aggravate the ANS. I consciously live in a calming parasympathetic state and it has literally gifted me quality of life. Consciously living in the parasympathetic state has indeed improved my symptoms and reduced my need for certain pharma. Equally important, medical intervention has been critical for me. be necessary. Case in point. My medical intervention includes medication to raise my BP for POTS combined with a pacemaker for malignant vasovagal syncope and long asystolic pauses. Thanks again.
Irene Lyon has a nervous system course called ‘smart body smart mind’ where the attendees have the same condition and have given positive results from the nervous system work, there are videos on UA-cam. Best wishes 💖
@@sentience21 It’s a shame that smart body smart mind is $2K USD. Most people can’t afford that. :/ I’m really glad it helped you though. ❤ Did you try her 21 day tune up? It’s $300.
This might be a little off for some, but during the height of the pandemic and working in grocery I actually found it easier to focus on the human being in front of me rather than the personality or interpretation of their expression. Having a lot of unresolved trauma (so far) I can be quite reactive, but with folks' lower half being covered I was able to spend less energy in "prediction" mode or anticipating by deciphering their muscle movements and more on their eyes and words. It made interacting much less complicated and true fear wasn't muddied by anger. Now that masking and plexiglass are less used, I find myself backing up from strangers and not because of fear of virus which was my first thought, but because I need more time and space again to read a person's mood. They may just want to know where the cereal aisle is but my body wants to know if their whole being is safe. Now I can think about this when I go in tomorrow. 🤗⬅ genuine hug
Educators are also under the clock, just like medical people. The rat race pace of our lives are everywhere and causing so much damage. Where can teachers go to become trauma informed and learn about regulating states of kids. Personally as an ex educator, this is the job of the parent to equip learners with this primarily, educators can reinforce it at school. Nevertheless since educators are most of the time the ones who spend the most time with the kids, where do we get trained or information as a "toolkit" as mentioned?
I think of this as a very complicated discussion of the placebo effect. Porges is well spoken and certainly presents valuable ideas even if his own social reciprocation is dull and fails to give the other party credit.
Dear Perry, your work, contribution and efforts are amazing and I appreciate everything you bring forward for free but the amount of adverts on this video is really distressing. Understandably you wish to see some return on your investment. Honestly, I would prefer to give you money directly than have to quickly jump up in panic to try and mute and cancel an ad after being in the state of relaxation when listening to you both speak. One or two ads wouldn't be so bad, but the quantity of loud, jarring adverts so kindly selected by artificial intelligence on this video is too much, it isn't conducive to the point really. Maybe you would eventually consider putting less impersonal and aggressive advertising systems in place and rather favour asking for those that adhere to and support your work to contribute financially in any way possible, a type of "buy a coffee" or tip system to bolster the lesser revenue you'd make with the Google adverts that sadly detract from your message. Thanks for reading me, either way I am entirely grateful for you and your message and appreciate that these "incredible and convenient" modern systems do also exploit the labour of those who now do for free the things they ought to get fairly compensated for without question!
Women want equality, but still to be put first? I'm a woman myself and equality means sometimes you are first, and sometimes the man is first. Or else we're back to favouring one over the other, and you don't want that.
So many folks that are doing important cultural work of hosting podcasts don't have professional communication degrees and training on how to host shows and introduce themselves and their co-hosts and their guest speakers with a sound bite about their resume but they are doing really helpful work. They'll eventually learn some skills. If we're coming to a show and lecture about how to cope with trauma, please don't traumatize your host. Take good care.
I immediately teared up when he read the “To the survivors of trauma who heroically searched for safety” ❤…. So grateful to have found this. Thank you. 🙏
Thank you for watching
I did too! I’m so glad you wrote it out in the comments. I have reread it several times, and I’m only half way into the video right now. That one quote, makes me feel seen and not alone.
I’m so grateful I came across your channel! ❤ I’ve been living with chronic pain for over 10 years already and your podcasts and teachings feel the right direction to go towards health. Thank you Dr. Perry! ❤
Awwww thank you so much. Lovely to have you here.
14:35 This is a very good reason to not get Botox! I even heard that botoxed people start to feel less empathy over time, because not being able to make certain facial expressions can inhibit empathy. No thank you. Bring on the 11s and wrinkles! ❤
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This channel has gifted the world w/ literal life-saving info, 🙏🏼😇❤️🩹sending infinite respect & gratitude to everyone who contributes here!♾💗
Thank you very much. Grateful for the kind words.
Beautifully worded. Thank you!
I'm blown away by the last part about being stuck in a threat state
Thank you for watching
We were taught to do vagotomy to treat peptic ulcers due to stress. This was in Royal College of surgeons of Edinburgh Scotland in 1968 studying general surgery. This is science 50 we know will change and 50 we don’t know but we keep trying. Thanks God blessings. We want more tools and protocols for ordinary people to regulate their emotions and autonomic nervous system.
Love how science and medicine are always changing.
Second time I’ve listened to this - equally enlightening. What a great interview - so many lightbulb moments for me coupled with palpable kindness.
That's wonderful thank you for watching
I learned about responding to the environment through watching horses. I grew up as an only child and we moved around a lot, but horses were a constant. I spent most of my time with them during the summers, watching the herd respond to each other and the environment. I was often lonely so horses became my friends. Having this background lead me to Dr. Porges in school. I love Polyvagal theory. It makes so much sense to me. After all, humans are mammals who have been trained to be humans. I love your work so much Dr. Porges. I would love to work with you doing research with horses.
Is freeze the same as dissociation?
Thank you for sharing
It's a form of dissociation
From my spiritual perspective, loving thySelf aids body& mind awareness ❤
Referring to the beginning of the video how we communicate with our pets is typical of how we use sound , tone & facial/body movement. My dog for example doesn't speak my language but we communicate well ❤
Thank you for this sharing❤❤❤
Dogs make everything better
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This is a powerful exchange Dr. Stephen and Dr. Perry. 🙏
Thank you for watching. I really enjoyed this conversation.
What an incredible interview, going to listen to this over and over again as well Perry. Brilliant!! Thank you so much.❤
Glad you enjoyed it Thank you for listening
Ah this was great thank you all so much. I’ve recently got into Polyvagal theory in my healing journey and it’s another big key.
Great questions you asked too thank you Dr Perrin.
I also love I was 888th like of the video especially as I’m presently in the midst of 28day abundance affirmations 😁🌟💜🙏🕊️🌈
Thank you for watching. Did ya mean Dr. Perry? Dr. Perrin is my friend but that's a different Doc. lol
@ hahaha yes oopsy Dr. Perry I meant you, I knew I should have double checked my spelling before I pressed send lol.
I do have his Perrin technique book but I knew it was you not him lol.
Note to self, it’s Perry, remember it’s Perry… Dr. Perry 😆😘
"Let's start with how pain is related to defense." 🙌🏻🎯
Indeed
OMG !!!! i love THIS conversation. so good!!!! thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wonderful talk and needed insight on pain understanding ❤
Thank you or listening
We do support groups for grieving and traumatized children stressing safety and play. I used to think the positive impact was magic. Polyvagal theory taught me it was biological. It helps us to bring more understanding to our staff, volunteers, and caregivers.
Fantastic! SO great to help healing when you understand how biology works.
Amazing episode with great thinkers ❤
Thank you so much
Hoe to find to practice the safe and sound protocol? Thamk you
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I dont find it here@@stopchasingpain
@Bruno, Sally Riggs has info on how to find it. ❤
Great discussion, ty❤ I’m a supporter of the concepts in the polyvagal theory. Before I knew about Dr Porges, I implemented various positive psychology to reduce my symptoms
and limit the stress response. In my opinion, Dr Porges oversimplifies disorders of the Autonomic Nervous System midway through. Beyond trauma or chronic stress, some conditions like Ehlers danlos naturally aggravate the ANS. I consciously live in a calming parasympathetic state and it has literally gifted me quality of life. Consciously living in the parasympathetic state has indeed improved my symptoms and reduced my need for certain pharma. Equally important, medical intervention has been critical for me. be necessary. Case in point. My medical intervention includes medication to raise my BP for POTS combined with a pacemaker for malignant vasovagal syncope and long asystolic pauses. Thanks again.
Thank you for sharing
Irene Lyon has a nervous system course called ‘smart body smart mind’ where the attendees have the same condition and have given positive results from the nervous system work, there are videos on UA-cam. Best wishes 💖
SmartbodySmartmind has been a big part of my healing.
@@sentience21
It’s a shame that smart body smart mind is $2K USD. Most people can’t afford that. :/ I’m really glad it helped you though. ❤ Did you try her 21 day tune up? It’s $300.
This might be a little off for some, but during the height of the pandemic and working in grocery I actually found it easier to focus on the human being in front of me rather than the personality or interpretation of their expression.
Having a lot of unresolved trauma (so far) I can be quite reactive, but with folks' lower half being covered I was able to spend less energy in "prediction" mode or anticipating by deciphering their muscle movements and more on their eyes and words. It made interacting much less complicated and true fear wasn't muddied by anger.
Now that masking and plexiglass are less used, I find myself backing up from strangers and not because of fear of virus which was my first thought, but because I need more time and space again to read a person's mood. They may just want to know where the cereal aisle is but my body wants to know if their whole being is safe.
Now I can think about this when I go in tomorrow. 🤗⬅ genuine hug
Thank you for your comment
Great example in light of what this interview doscusses!
Smart guy , he discovered the issue
But fixing the problem and knowing the problem are two different things
You can't fix it until you know the problem and his books teach you how.
This is great stuff thankyou,what is your view on vacuum therapy cupping ?
Can be helpful. Depends on the individual.
Thanks Doc I find it very helpful I'm learning some methods on cupping,could you do a video showing some methods
Will this be on the Spotify podcast? I couldn't find it.
Yes its already there
Is it immersing yor face in to ice water good for vagus nerve?
Yes that is a strategy that can help your nervous system relax. A lot of neurology in the face
Educators are also under the clock, just like medical people. The rat race pace of our lives are everywhere and causing so much damage. Where can teachers go to become trauma informed and learn about regulating states of kids. Personally as an ex educator, this is the job of the parent to equip learners with this primarily, educators can reinforce it at school. Nevertheless since educators are most of the time the ones who spend the most time with the kids, where do we get trained or information as a "toolkit" as mentioned?
Agree for sure. The model is broken.
I think of this as a very complicated discussion of the placebo effect.
Porges is well spoken and certainly presents valuable ideas even if his own social reciprocation is dull and fails to give the other party credit.
Thank you for your feedback
Dear Perry, your work, contribution and efforts are amazing and I appreciate everything you bring forward for free but the amount of adverts on this video is really distressing. Understandably you wish to see some return on your investment. Honestly, I would prefer to give you money directly than have to quickly jump up in panic to try and mute and cancel an ad after being in the state of relaxation when listening to you both speak. One or two ads wouldn't be so bad, but the quantity of loud, jarring adverts so kindly selected by artificial intelligence on this video is too much, it isn't conducive to the point really. Maybe you would eventually consider putting less impersonal and aggressive advertising systems in place and rather favour asking for those that adhere to and support your work to contribute financially in any way possible, a type of "buy a coffee" or tip system to bolster the lesser revenue you'd make with the Google adverts that sadly detract from your message. Thanks for reading me, either way I am entirely grateful for you and your message and appreciate that these "incredible and convenient" modern systems do also exploit the labour of those who now do for free the things they ought to get fairly compensated for without question!
Noted I will look into that thank you
Rude, to not introduce the lady first
Create your own show and do your own intro
Women want equality, but still to be put first? I'm a woman myself and equality means sometimes you are first, and sometimes the man is first. Or else we're back to favouring one over the other, and you don't want that.
@@stopchasingpain 😂❤👏
So many folks that are doing important cultural work of hosting podcasts don't have professional communication degrees and training on how to host shows and introduce themselves and their co-hosts and their guest speakers with a sound bite about their resume but they are doing really helpful work. They'll eventually learn some skills. If we're coming to a show and lecture about how to cope with trauma, please don't traumatize your host. Take good care.
like a wounded animal.
Nature teaches us a lot
Constant adverts. Couldn’t watch
Thank you for the feedback
this is not about pain. good talk but title is wrong
Yes it is about pain. Because emotions are linked to pain and it's not a title is the name of my business
Will this be on the Spotify podcast? I couldn't find it.
It's been on there yes its an older episode 212