so for $500/month you get to be an unpaid beta tester for Tinder and a badge that announces to the world that you are easily separated from your money?
At this price range you should look into professional dating services. Dating apps killed match makers, maybe it's time for a resurgence of that profession.
I am a lonely man. I have been for years. But I've never been this blinded by a dry spell. I'd rather be lonely with cash in my pocket than be lonely AND broke
Stay strong bro. Many lonely people out there. Social media ruined the very fabric of relationships and connections in society. Nobody knows how to talk nowadays. I feel like there will come a time when everyone will crave “real” and “human” connection and dump their smartphones and social media for good
Bible, Genesis 2:18-24 (NKJV) - The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”. Men is always alone. It is God decision to create women for him. He never requested for one.
I agree. I'd rather be alone than be around people who dismiss, disrespect, ignore, and bully me. Took a divorce and losing a few so called friends to wake me up. But I am better off now.
Yeah, I hate to hurt people just because I’m hurt, but I’ve been more and more tempted the last couple years or so to withdraw from basically all my closest friends and family. (Weirdly some who I’m not as close with, treat me better and I’d have to maintain communication with them.) But… I don’t have the guts or the heart to ignore my my Mom for example… but I might do the closest thing by only answering with the most minimal texts, and keeping calls very short… don’t know that I could explain to her/others, or that I want to… idk… it hurts to talk casually while you’re watching your miserable life pass you by and you’re dying inside. (Can’t wait for this comment to come back and screw me publicly someday…)
As a general rule, Tinder is NOT where you will find a decent woman if you are lonely. Meeting people in person through mutual interests/friends was and still is the best way
@@endergamer.mp4depending on your interests. For example if you’re into archery and go to shooting ranges you can meet people there, book clubs, instagram. You can meet people your age if you have cousins your age that you hangout with, you can all go out.
@@endergamer.mp4I do think meeting new people is hard tho. I haven’t really made too many new friends since I graduated high school in 2014. I’ve made only a handful, but we aren’t close. I Mostly hangout with my friends that I’ve know since grade school, my family and my boyfriends family. We have many cousins our age range and we hangout often
At my age most of my friends are married, or ended up in bad relationships themselves and are too dysfunctional to network with. (not judging them, just saying they're probably not the best advice-givers)
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. No matter how lonely I am, I refuse to go on dating apps and simp after women for attention. As a man, if a woman doesn’t like you, no amount of pursuing/chasing will change that. This applies even if you paid 500 dollars a month for this supposedly advanced tinder tier dating option.
@@dbmdrums1105 Relaxing your guards to allow someone to get to know how you truly are is okay. Simping (allowing others to take advantage of you) is not.
@@dbmdrums1105 “Everyone” you know a lot of people? I think that what you are doing is generalizing (maybe to make yourself feel better!!) How’s that working out?!? If you want to be a simp, go for it; but taking “everyone” on that ride is not cool.
This has got to be the dumbest most ignorant comment I've seen yet on this video and shows how many guys just tell on themselves that they have no real world experience. Being on a dating app is not simping. Do any of you even know what simping means? Simping is you wasting resources directly on a woman who does not reciprocate. If a guy wants to potentially meet women in other cities states countries etc, you will have to use dating apps. If you prefer to hate women and be alone forever, stay away from them.
As always, Courtney is absolutely spot-on! It is beyond ridiculous paying $500 a month just to try to get to meet someone online and schedule a date. More importantly, as she pointed out so clearly, use that money to improve yourself and the right person will come along. Don’t throw away your hard earned money! Thank you for this video, Courtney! More men need to watch it!
Is having a status symbol like a big house or exotic sports car ridiculous too? This is obviously a way to show off wealth to future prospects and if it helps men in that capacity then so what? Women can attract with their looks alone but men who aren't so attractive need to make that money. And if we have a lot of money to waste then why not on a premium Tinder subscription?
@@RealHomeRecording Go for it. But if you're gonna flash status symbols and flaunt money, don't be surprised if all you attract is parasitic gold diggers.
@@RealHomeRecording if wealth is all that you can offer, wealth is all they are going to take, at least until someone wealthier comes along. I’m not against the functionality of the app or the absurdity of it. All about freedom and capitalism here. However, it is truly obscene, disgusting, and unethical, (albeit legal) for a company to capitalize on male loneliness, and that is exactly what it is doing. Do I want government to ban dating apps because of that? Absolutely not. Do I appreciate the fact that good women with great moral standards take the time in their lives to talk to men and show them better ways to go about finding a good a decent partner in life? Absolutely, yes.
@@RealHomeRecordingBig houses and exotic sports cars are useful. At best, a dating app is slightly useful hence that extra money is useless. At best, it will attract gold diggers, which is worse than useless.
I've never tried a dating app. I haven't dated in 25 years. I do need another cat though. They do provide loyalty, friendship, understanding and mischief.
I was on the apps for about a week. And quickly realized it is a joke. I decided to get over my anxiety meeting new people. Toughen up and just do it. I've now meet someone and things are going great. Get off those apps. Work on ur flaws and get out there boys. Believe in yourself.
Thank you for talking about this. The dating app executives and marketing teams have reached a new low that I thought was only possible for politicians and the corporate media.
What a lonely world we live in. Surrounded by people but we can be grifted out of money just for the tentative hope of finding someone to go through life with.
not really. Nobody forces you to be lazy and desperate, to delude yourself into thinking that paying money will somehow compensate for years of not working to get a partner. And this goes both for men and women. Most likely the 500$ Tinder program is aimed a women, no normal man would buy it.
@@adrianmainz2716 Unfortunately, you’re incorrect. Granted, most men who make this kind of money that would enable them to afford this probably, as a rule, don’t fall for this kind of thing-but that’s not who it’s aimed at. It’s aimed at the man who can’t afford this, but who is desperate enough to mortgage something-house, car, whatever-in order meet someone. As I’ve said in other comments, the gambit itself is despicable.
No one should ever have to pay for love. Period. This is such a scam and I feel sorry for those who fall victim to it. Use your money to improve yourself, not buy someone.
Thank you for a good laugh Courtney. I no longer date or do relationships so I don’t have, nor will I ever have, Tinder or any other dating app. But your facial expressions alone in response to Tinder’s stated rationale made this worth the watch 😂
Sometimes removing the stress of "dating" allows people to see each other in a different light. Low expectations clear the way for more sincere interactions.
Courtney, thank you for shedding a light on this, but you have no idea the full scope of this epidemic. I'm part of a much smaller community that relies mainly on matchmakers and the outrageous sums people have started demanding up front can only reasonably be described as taking advantage. Our society is in big trouble.
Thanks for this video, Courtney. I went ahead and cancelled my last remaining sub to Match. I've been on dating apps over the years with only a few connections that didn't even turn into dates. A couple of weeks ago I went to my first speed dating event and matched with 7 women. Never in my life would I have foreseen that. It goes to show how incredibly important it is to have personal contact with others over browsing 2D images. I have never considered myself photogenic, but does have charisma if people just give me a chance and meet in person.
Filters in general and the easy judgement of dating apps has always been a problem. I know people have their standards, but dating apps basically made it okay to judge people even more harshly, even outside of the app. Sometimes back in the day people would just connect and ignore their standards, that just don't happen anymore and it's sad.
@@FishSandvichso damn true. That filter works in our favour lmao. We can separate the toxic ones & the genuine ones. I'm 6'2" but still I don't wanna date a girl who has unrealistic standards & judges a person only by something they can't control.
I deleted all of the dating apps about 2 months ago. I haven't been this happy in 2 years, and I'm not dating ANYONE. It's amazing. I'll wait for a good one, or just be single & happy. Contentment is king!
@@clementm9161 Same, no I tried once for 1 week bumble got two matches not one texted back so I deleted the app. I am single now but my 2 ex gf I met through school and the other one in group workshop! Guys certain Workshops are really good to meet new people, especially women, but theres obviously never a guarantee.
It's all about manipulation or looks, always has been. Especially in the world of short term relations, sociopaths are going to annihilate the scene. Not sure how the crackie did so well though.
Behind "Services like these " there is a board of men who plan by this way " How can we turn lonely men into money " . Kings protect your wallets don't give in to these money hungry people . Courtney covered this perfectly .
I think this 500$ service is targeted at women. No man will buy the "right" to message 2 women that rejected him. However, ladies that want to use their money in order to talk with young men (who did not swipe on them), have a good chance of actually convincing young men to date them in exchange of said money.
Again you are showing yourself wise beyond your years. I got on Tinder 2 years ago and decided I would attempt the annual membership of $120. Within 3 months I was so sick of what I was experiencing from those leeches that were coming out towards me that I just deleted my account. Dating apps are crap. Thank you for your honesty.
I was a free member for a couple of months and I got some somewhat promising nibbles. So I figured I'd go ahead and give it a real try and that's when everything went to pot.
@@Tenorman51 I've never dated online and never will. But from what I have _heard,_ those "promising nibbles" you had for the first couple of months as a new member, were pushed by the app on purpose to try to get you hooked, and then they also on purpose dry up the matches to make you wonder what's going on, and get you to pay up for more. Courtney might talk a game about dating apps... as a woman, though. Not as a man. Only near the end of the video did she finally wonder what was her now-husband's experience on it. Truth is, only the highest-value men get almost all of the share of women approaching them, whereas most men who are even above average have very few prospects if any. I suppose consequently though, it also means most women are highly materialistic and superficial - which is naturally bad news for high value males in that regard, since most of the women approaching them only want his wallet, the lamborghini rides and the free lobster dinners. It makes sense given that you reported being approached by so many leeches.
never ever was i desperate enough to pay for anything on a dating app. i go years at a time without so much as a handshake from a woman, usually about 4 years each encounter, and still would scoff at the thought of stooping so low to pay anything to tinder or any dating app. walking away from dating apps was one of the best things i could have done for my mental health.
Bravo🙌🙏. So many influencers are swayed to endorse services and goods for money. Your advice on this scam is refreshing and brutally honest. Sadly many men will fall for this because dating today is a borderline a disaster. Well done…and keep up the great and enlightening advice.
Just watching this video got me super depressed! I once paid for a dating app over the course of 6 months, and in that duration, I never established a single date. I will never do that again!
I’m in the same boat, except I got one date were I got stood up 😂 I’m ready to give up and I consider my self a decent looking guy, like I have a visible 6 pack and that’s not enough now days
Piece of advice I got from women that I'm friends with: being on a "paid tier" immediately brands you as a desperate simp and caps your best outcome to "dick in a jar". Piece of advice I got from data engineers at dating app companies: it makes no sense for a single straight man to use them, on most of them the stats are something like the top 15% of male profiles are getting around 80-90% of the likes from female profiles.
This reminds me of when I was watching a documentary about male loneliness, and it then introduced the Japanese hikikomori (Japanese lonely males). As soon as it mentioned the part where girls were "helping" them overcome their loneliness by charging them money to talk to them etc - my immediate response was *NO.* _NO, NO, NO._ Because what immediately hit me in that moment was all the context leading up to it: our history of silent cultural messaging in the background that we have accepted for too long, shaming men so extensively (weak, loser - said derogatorily not sympathetically) to the point that even without batting an eye we throw in there some extra largely-unrelated descriptors as if just to get our kicks from it (misogynistic, toxic - yes, apparently somehow suffering males equates misogyny.) And here, in the middle of this, society (in this case primarily women) swooped in to eat these males alive - exploiting their weak state, in the middle of beating them with the blame stick, for money, for the *pretense* of being liked. All without a single criticism of it by the documentary or anyone interviewed - but rather painting these girls as heroes. Why does this happen? Society isn't only women - it's also men. When society encourages male loneliness and suffering, it's the women _and the men_ who encourage it. Both reciprocate what it means to be the "right kind of male" in society, both punish and shame men for suffering. I also remember a conversation I had with an acquaintance of mine in the past, where we got around to talking about my depression, and she immediately without even missing a beat just nonchalantly said "why don't you just hire an escort?" I was stunned and she went on something like "yeah you'll have sex and you'll feel better." Um, no? Even forgetting how she just so insultingly casually said it, just the content of the message is in and of itself insulting. Is this how women think of males? Right, I'll pay someone what money I have, to pretend to want to be with me? Needless to say, it didn't take long for my acquaintance to prove not to be friendship material. Too many guys have effectively been told they have no value - and then they're figuratively beaten for having the audacity to suffer for that. All I can say right now is beg them not to let society reinforce that feeling of low-value such as insulting notions like _paying for intimacy._ Don't do it, you're worth far more than that. I know it's not easy, but somehow, you'll have to find the strength to pull yourself out, hopefully you find people who actually care to help you out of actual compassion for you, build yourself up little by little and in doing so increasingly realize your own value.
@@Tcat586 Yeah, men definitely have a much higher sex drive than women so it makes sense - and in fact, that should be something acknowledged instead of demonized, since it's just a pretty fundamental part of maleness. That's not to say that of course detrimental things can result from it, but unnuanced, hamfisted narratives like "toxic masculinity" open up a _lot_ of problems - including for women, not just primarily men. These kinds of narratives, the constant shifting of bad behaviours to being "male" (consequently pardoning female behaviours as automatically good - if a female is bad it's "internalized misogyny" to lay the blame back on men), easily leads to people just having such a dehumanizing view of males that they can barely even fathom that men are not just sex-hungry dogs (some men might be, and some men are nothing even close), that men are individuals and they suffer all the emotions as women do. They say "men need to be in touch with their emotions" but at the same time they're constantly talking over us and screeching over us, we shut down and keep our thoughts private. Then come the head-slaps and the harpy-shriek demands to "open up and communicate and talk about our feelings" lol. Not all women of course - but it's an alarmingly common theme for a reason. It really goes to show how much society has demonized the suffering male - they pretty much don't ever shut up for a minute and _actually listen._
hikikomori is a different thing. it goes well beyond male loneliness. it goes way into the extreme ends of it. hikikomori don't engage with anything outside of their rooms. at all. not that they can't and want to. they just don't want to. they don't see a point in socializing, finding a job, getting out of the house. don't see a point in being part of humanity a whole. many hikikomori do not even leave their rooms and live off welfare. there are also female hikikomori and these are different from men. very similar at first but intentions change. female hikikomori often suffer from extreme anxiety and cannot interact at all with the opposite sex without having a panic attack. most want to be part of society, as opposed to the male hikikomori who have just given up on everything, but they don't know how and can't find a way to break that barrier. there is probably a lot more to this, so far this is my understanding of hikikomori
Every american movie or tv show you watch, white heterosexual male is depicted some weak simp , stupid and imcompentent.... But in reality white heterosexual male is the most compentent male on the planet on avg... it's rather tragicomedy, how american multimedia is and how twisting reality... What toxic masculinity, what misogyny? (these are all dialectics of the neomarxist end-of-history cultists buzzwords)... as someone who has observed the world since 2008, because too much free time and not working class... american society is completely extremely crazy... toxic masculinity is being weak beta male.. liberal... emotional man... that's what toxic masculinity is.... there's nothing more aggressive than insecure beta male, who is constantly emotional and has a need to prove himself how "manly" he is... all the violent men are emotional men , all liberals are emotional and men who vote liberals is questionable that they even are men... men are stoic and control their emotion and are not phased easily and don't react to things around them (specially violently...) In america there's easy correlation to draw, wich are the most violent places in america? american ghettos, specially like chicago and detroit... who is the male majority population? blacks, mexicans (whites as well obviously...) , what they all have in common? they vote liberal/democrat it's sadens me to see how america is completely infiltrated by dialectic cult and how with american cultural characeristics your society is restructured into communism... literally the same mentally illl dialectic cult wich east-europe went thru for 50~ years - pure hell ... but american version of it is even more extreme , scary stuff .. (i lived thru soviet union briefly..) I guess only east-europeans comprehend fully what's happening at the moment in america.... don't want to sound like doomsday advocate (wich core of dialectic cult actually is, end of humanity and progress means towards synthesis and spawning new thesises, like a loop... up to "godhood".. the end of history, devolving back to the garden of eden... thats how twisted they all are...) , but proactively and real-time you can witness how they are bringing the world into ww3 , but the war is more like 5th generation psychological warfare, you don't fight in the trench.... the war is fight in the minds of the civilian populations...
@@badrequest5596 perfectly describes a roommate i had for the last 2 years....he passed away last september at 30yo...landlady found him 2 weeks later and when his mother learned about it she was super happy to get the insurance...
friendship is the first step to a healthy intimate relationship if you're not interested in being friends and just wanting to know each other and be in each other's lives in that aspect, then anything else is not good and so the approach should be, only caring about cultivating friendship, and THEN if something HAPPENS to grow AFTER that, be open to it, communicate, etc., but, not be SEEKING IT IN people, it's unhealthy bad approach
Relatable. I'm actually MUCH better at one-night stand than making friends. I also never went to school and was primarily raised around women so that figures. The last time someone invited me to actually hang out was in 2017. I don't know if I even know HOW to chill anymore
@JosiahGensler Yeah I couldn't be less interested in dating. It has been my experience in 100% of my relationships that they eventually end. Friendships are stronger, more meaningful bonds... When they happen, that is.
I tried dating aps years ago and literally no one lived in the same state as me. I gave up after the scammers, the politely asking and trying to be a gentleman, and I said enough is enough. Doesn't matter if it was faith based, free, adult focused, or whatever other method. I just said enough and gave up looking for a relationship a decade ago. Now I'm focusing on trying to making my book a success, getting a job that is in the field I love, and trying to adopt another kitty as I had to give my loyal companion of 17 years back to God over a year ago and I am tired of being lonely.
Ehm no. I have much more than 500 €/$/chf/£ as disposable income per month. My options are exactly at zero. (And no, I won't pay tinder anything. That's just a scam)
I met guys in the nineties that went to dating introduction services and it was a total waste. They paid between $3500 and $4000 for three dates. The one man said I could go to any bar in town and find a woman that was higher quality than what they set me up with. Not one of the guys got a second date.
Well duh. Just imagine the type of women that needs this kind of agencies just to attract men. They must have been very ugly attraction wise and personlity wise.
Bumble is being sued, and I'm sure more will be too. What you say is totally correct. Why is it that I get a million AMAZING matches the first week, then i'm out of matches after that and have to pay? Well,, turns out its because the apps are lying. They are the worst pieces of human garbage taking advantage of people's lonliness.
so I used to go to a really expensive spin class (indoor cycling) with a friend in Seattle. A monthly membership was 4 or 5 hundred dollars. My friend, a young female successful professional, said she liked that it was expensive because it kept out the poor guys. people who think they are exclusive want to use services that allow them to connect to other exclusive people.
It was only a matter of time before they found a way to monetize lonliness. Dating sites are becoming more like twitch. As you said, they aren't useless, but in general people should get back in the practice of meeting people in person and developing their confidence and social skills. You can get (and give) a much better first impression of people you meet that way.
Arthur Brooks says that anything you do alone and compulsively that gives you momentary solitary pleasure through spikes of dopamine becomes an addiction. And addiction creates loneliness. He empathizes that it doesn't create happiness because happiness is a byproduct of doing something with people and enjoying it. ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxkXBcjwRmMRSbzd_C0V8cXCYbtrz639OW?feature=shared ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxY-F93g8bjHgD0CBHhafQiN6fZYQO7N1q?feature=shared
I'm happy to say that I met someone on tinder, and I've deleted the app. Weve been seeing each other for a few months now. Never thought I'd find the person I didn't know I was looking for on tinder, and I couldn't be happier. As happy as I am, it makes me sad that dating apps are designed in a way that my experience is an aberration and not more common for people.
@@Tondaloona03 Courtney calls herself our "big sis", but I'm older than her so modify it and call her little sis and have done so for years. She's never had an issue with it and has even called me brother / friend in the past. It's a pity people like you that jump to conclusions about things they know nothing about.
It's not creepy. You've been watching too much anime porn. It's a common expression from an older fellow to a younger woman when, in fact, the fella wants to make it clear he *isn't* creeping on her.
Thanks @@valecrassus7835 I've called her that (here and on instagram) for years and she never said anything remotely negative about it in fact it tends to be a positive response.
It's now called the gold-digging scammer badge. Only gold-diggers, scammers, and escorts will message these desperate men now. And, those women are already on some contacts list at the dating app. This has become Ashley Madison without the discretion.
Look I'm just going to tell how it is. Miss Courtney Ryan here can talk a big game about dating but the fact is she is a very attractive woman. Things are different when you are an average or below average guy such as myself. Finding dating prospects was not easy after about the age of 25. So if this $500 per month badge helps me find dates then so be it. $500 per month for a status symbol is cheap to someone who is single, childless and wealthy.
@@RealHomeRecording 🫣 everything you said is true, except that checkmark on the profile is a big fat target for the wrong type of person Go have a listen to alexander grace. Or wingmam, the two BEST voices in the male dating space. For sustainable,happy LTR Good fortunes on the hunting to us are Weidmannsheil!!
@@RealHomeRecording 25! So young! Maybe don't be average. Develop your charisma and confidence levels. I am a lot older, and wish I was 25 and average. I have grey hair and wrinkles, and never been considered 'handsome', not even by my mother!!! But I get the dates just from people I meet in life. No dating apps, I just treat women with respect, listen to them, make them laugh with a bit of flattery, then they want my number to continue the chat some time. Oh, and I spend no money. Summertime parks with a picnic blanket and a flask of tea works for me. It is not being about cheap, it is just better if there is no expectations of money being lavished. Sadly though, my favourite woman has moved away from me to university and it is now long distance, with messages in the evening and nothing else all day. But she does check in every evening to tell me about her day, and I write her stuff then. Although she has 'abandoned me', to never be seen again, I only want her. I met her in the street asking for directions, I wasn't even 'evaluating' her, so no chat up line needed. With age I am sure you can develop charisma that matters more than money, looks, status or peacocking. As Courtney has said, it isn't all about looks as far as women are concerned, they are not as shallow as us.
problem is your gonna get a date with the wrong type of woman. This symbol is a sign that the man is desperate for sexual female attention so much that hes willing to pay 500 bucks a month and woman will sense that and pounce on the guy play the game and bleed you dry. You can't enter from a position of desperation you have to enter from a position of plentifulness and by buying this your portraying yourself in a negative light.@@RealHomeRecording This could work if your a player and just looking for sex, since your both playing each other, but no meaningful relationship will develop from this badge. That being said no meaninful relationship will develop from regular tinder either so the badge is useless
Thank you Courtney, I totally agree! I am so incredibly thankful that I am in a fantastic relationship now and don't have to use dating apps anymore. They have always been a nightmare for me as an average man.
most of the profiles of women on these apps aren't even real. Just manufactured bots to keep desperate men swiping and sending messages...hoping for a response. I think it's a scam.
In another blog I heard that for $500 man would be able to message women even before they would accept connection. Women would see it as needy stalking and it would make chances worse for such men. Later Tinder would offer women a paid way to block such upfront messages
This makes me think of that old Mickey Gilley song Lookin' for Love. "I was lookin' for love in all the wrong places" I need a shower, or two after hearing about Tinder's scuzzy behavior. You're a real Bro and a beautiful person.
I have not used a dating site since 2016. I enjoy the challenge of getting to know women out in the real world. It’s not easy for men to do that but practice is the mother of skill. With that said I’m single at the moment and actually enjoying my freedom stay strong Kings!!
I am a 23 year old guy who has never entered the dating market in my life. I have never had a girlfriend, never approached a girl because i always think that she will reject me either way and refuse to pay for something like Tinder because I know it will be useless.
I feel this changed my mindset and perspective on talking to or interacting with women, I read it on a forum, I thought the guy hit the nail right on the head. It changed my perspective and mindset on talking to women. A guy was asking for advice on how to get better at talking to women, and people used the word practice "It bothers and annoys, enrages me or pisses me off a lot when people use the word practice, because the way I see it, for women, there is no such thing as practicing talking to men, because women's lives are on autopilot when it comes to talking to men since puberty, due to all of the constant attention they've been getting since then, women are forced to, have no choice but to learn how to talk to men, and they gain it right away by doing nothing since they don't have to open their mouth first" I thought to myself, never truer words have been said or spoken. I thought that was bang-on right there. and i got a response from a dating coach on youtube, which enraged and pissed me off more, while I don't disagree with him, I just don't like how he said the brutal cold harsh fact of how different for men and women when it comes to getting better at talking to and interacting with the opposite sex. It makes sense and I like to believe there is far more advice for guys in the world on how to talk to and interact with girls then there is advice for girls on how to talk to and interact with guys. He said: "Don't worry about what other people don't have to do or why something is easier for them or whatever the comparison may be. Focus on you, where you want to be, what you need to do to get there and then get moving." That pissed me off more when I read that. Another reason why I don't like it is because it feels or seems like the way a guy talks and interacts with people or a guy's social skills, the way he behaves around others, has a much bigger impact on his attractiveness or ability to get a girlfriend then the other way around. As in, the way a girl talks or a girl's social skills doesn't impact her attractiveness or ability to get a boyfriend as much as it does for a guy to get a girlfriend. Men need to focus more on the behavioral aspect than women do when it comes to attracting someone it seems. The main reason why i hate that, is because guys, men, can unfortuneately be labeled creepy or weird in interactions or social situations with women, even if the guy, man, never meant any harm, was never trying to hurt the woman, the reverse isn't true though. The way a man talks or behaves in a conversation or in an interaction between a man and a woman is what makes or breaks attraction, not the other way around. And due to men always having been expected to walk up to women and open our mouth, it makes more sense for the man to need to practice but not the woman. If an interaction or conversation goes poorly or bad between a man and a woman,. It's always the guys fault, it's impossible for a woman to screw up a conversation or interaction with a guy, it seems., as in, make someone feel uncomfortable. Men have to do all the practicing and all the learning, women just have to exist and automatically have dudes lined up wanting to be with them, that doesn't take any training or practice or trial and error or learning
This did get me to thinking how much a dating coach quoted me a few years ago. I think it was around $4000 for 6-12 months. No guarantees you would meet anyone. At 56, since it hasn’t happened by now I doubt it will. I’ll just use that $500 a month to enjoy my hobbies.
Tinder and a bunch of these other dating apps can go out of business for all I care. Hardly anyone actually gets a serious relationship out of them. When I'm asking a girl on a 1st date I insist on asking her out *in person.*
Fella's under 30, (Im 33).... Once you worked for something, have your own place(s), travel a bit, family (if they are supportive), you don't really care for validation from outsiders because alot of people do not have peace within their own world and don't know how to compliment your life. Create peace, and you will realize 9/10 of the women you encounter are pretty vicious and critical. Especially here in America. Life is a balance.
For $500 per month you can get a woman to clean your apartment, wash your clothes, iron them, pick up some shopping and maybe cook you some basic meals for the freezer. This is worth paying for if you are a very busy professional. I have done it. My wife meanwhile I got for free. EDIT: Dating apps is like men always have to pay to go into nightclubs but women often don't on quiet midweek nights.
As a man, I just wanted to say: *thank you for caring.* No, really, it means the WORLD that a woman like you actually cares about us. It's a huge breath of fresh air in an extremely misandristic society.
What shocks me the most is that Tinder still doesn't understand that these 'badges' are counter-productive and make dudes look desperate. If you want to pay to have a normal-looking profile put in front of the top women - that makes sense. But let's use some basic psychology fellas!
The last few dating apps I’ve experienced would get stagnant. You’d see the same matches over and over. You’d reach out to girls that seemed like a good match and mostly not hear anything. I’ve found just getting outside and around people has been better. Lifting weights and doing things that interest me has helped. Personally, I think it’s better to build relationships in your networks and attending things will give more success. 1. You’re happier 2. You’re more social 3. Confidence grows. 4. People that know you will also look out for you too. They may have the perfect person for you as well
There's several things at play with the stagnation: 1. Less women are using the apps. The M to F ratio is now at 4:1 so about 75% men to 25% women. When the ratio isn't balanced, it practically makes OLD useless. 2. A new profile gets prioritized exposure which gives the initial attention high, but it dies out as time goes on. 3. The options are NOT as endless as OLD marketing would have ppl believe. It's like being presented with a pile of items & told to find the one you want. With every swipe/ match/ discard, the pile gets smaller & smaller until it's pretty much gone.
4 on your “it’s better” is bullshit though because none of the people who rib me about being single or tell me they can’t believe I’m single have ever so much as offered to help me look for anyone.
@@Z25MikeD thank you. I honestly think it's time ppl leave the apps as they're doing way more harm than anything. When you think about it, who really benefits from men's low self-esteem, low self-worth, social anxiety, hookup culture, fear of socializing or approaching women in real life? It's not women or feminism. It's actually the dating app companies. Their billions depend on all those things to keep men hyper-reliant on the apps. Crazy.
You are a rare breed Courtney, a person of high moral character who just happens to be a beautiful woman, your husband is one lucky guy, thank you and God Bless.
Dating apps have all really gone to crap. They are all now asking crazy expensive monthly fees. Except maybe bumble. $500 is a crime. Imagine how many nights out you could take for that. Or doing stuff that youll meet woman or men naturally.
I definitely fall under this list. With my own experiences along with what I see women do in various content (shame guys at the gym, get pregnant with athletes for a pay-day, make-up assault allegations for a pay-day, set unrealistic standards, mental games they play and how they advise other women to do the same) I would rather just stay lonely and make the best out of it.
@@cda6590 No one actually "goes" for these women. You just never know what their intentions are until you sign that contract with the government. The only contract that pays women for quitting.
@@briar35981 lmao I'm about as anti redpill as you can get while being a dude and even I know marriage is a scam. I wouldn't involve the government in my relationship no matter how many prenups I had.
Ppl also fail to realize that most of the content you see online is for show. The extremes & negativity get more clicks so that's what ppl put out there. Not what's reasonable & realistic, but what is sensational enough to play on someone's feelings. After so long, it fks with your head. Be careful with what you consume & how much.
@@justacoginthefkery We are quickly approaching a point in society where what is on the screen is more pertinent to what is real than what is "reasonable and realistic." Think of how much of today's youth aspire to make a living--aka have their life dependent upon--social media and the internet in general? Whether they live or die depends more on what the screen says than what reality has to say.
I never once used a dating app and never will there are alot of real men out there over 6 feet ( I'm 6 , 1 ) with 6 packs and making well over 6 figures ( and making it legally to that is ) basically the 3 sixs women want , you will never see them on any dating app , we get women in the real world, I see it happening all the time , these men are black , white , Hispanic and other races . And believe it or not I'm Christian I do not go around using women for sex , that is considered sinful and will take you to hell when you die . The red bandana and gat in my picture are from my younger days , every man I have met in my life using tinder is just trying to find women for sex , it's 2023 how do people still think tinder is a dating app . Anyhow real men are out there , they are not on tinder..
Im surprised courtney has not highlighted this comment there is no way she hasn't see this this is the best comment I think I have ever seen on UA-cam like seriously
The only guaranteed result of paying $500 a month for VIP membership is that other women on Tinder will be laughing at us and calling us pathetic losers
sounds like a great deal. Paying $500 a month to be called a pathetic loser by women who aren't even worth the time nor the effort. No thanks. I will focus on myself instead.
It reminds me of this time in 2000 when I moved to a new city, and got involved in a matchmaking site. Back then, for 1500$, they made you fill out a bunch of forms and promised iirc 5 or 6 matches. One "mistake" I made when filling out those forms is being open-minded for physical attributes. I was an average professional guy in his late twenties, 5'10" 200 pounds. Not being picky I set my ranges for a good pick from 5 feet to 5 feet 10... didn't matter. But then for weight range... you have to allow for your choice, a 5 feet girl might weigh 90 pounds... a 5'10 girl might be healthy at 160-170 pounds. Well, woe is me, my first three matches were more around the 5 feet 160 pounds range. After the third match, I just gave up... lol
bad policy to NOT pay for a first and second date - itll just hinder your results, trust me, thats where your money SHOULD go - just keep it to inexpensive dates and not dinner ($100 per date total max)
That bit at the end about you creating a male profile was really interesting. I'd love to see a video (or series) exploring a few different sites (maybe using your husband's or a friend's photos)... does paying on any of them enhance results? How do matches seem initially? What type/quality of women do you match with, etc...
I think she said she was going to do this a couple years ago when she reacted to Alexander Grace video where his friend used his pics & created profile & saw first hand how demoralizing apps are for men. If she does finally get around to it then she needs to make several control groups 2 utilizing a very good looking guy's pics & another 2 using a average looking guy's pics. One with money & prestige the other average job & salary. That will yield the best range to test results.
@@zipperpig You vastly underestimate how the algorithm fucks guys over. There's no shortage of videos backed up by the former employees that program the algorithm, on how apps keep people single on UA-cam. I highly recommend you watch a few, tinder & all it's subsidiaries (yes nearly all the apps are under a single corp umbrella) are straight evil. They're legitimately on par with Arasaka, Umbrella, Militech, & every other fictional evil corporation. Hell most real life corporations on the planet are legit evil.
i have been single for years and dont feel alone becuase of where i am at within my self i perfer peace than people 95% of people in this world are fake better to be alone than surround by fake people that offer noting of goodness to your life we dont need completing we are allready whole
Hey Courtney you should do a feature on matchmakers and how much they cost on average and stuff just as a response to this. The assumption is that the cost of a matchmaker is too high but compared to the costs of dating apps they might be the more reasonable option these days. Really give it a look. It's fascinating to see how much they cost and how much those costs vary. It seems that the whole field is rather niche and if it was utilized more with more competition prices could normalize.
Never used Tinder, never will. No way in hell 👹 I would ever pay that much to anyone for anything. That is such a scam and they aren't even trying to hide it. Great video and info on this.
The best time to stop paying for a dating app is to never start. I might be single and somewhat lonely but I I refuse to spend $4.99 on a dating app. Hell would freeze over before I spent $499 on it.
This video came out at just the right time for me. I just stopped my subscription to Christian Mingle yesterday and I was feeling a little bad about it, because I hadn't had much "luck" with it and I was wondering if it was just me doing things wrong. It's good to know that other guys don't have much success with dating apps, and that for a lot of us it is a waste of money. I know there are guys who do well on dating apps, but currently I'm not one of them for a bunch of reasons, and like Courtney said, it'd be better for me to invest my time and money on other things. Also, I'd never pay $500 a month. I ended up spending $160 on Christian Mingle with no dates and one catfishing scam (that thankfully I saw through) and that was more than enough for me to stop paying.
I've seen analysis videos of the data behind dating apps and as a solid 6-7 as a woman you can expect to get between 1000 and 10,000 times more matches than a 6-7 man. The average male user gets a handful of matches per year.
My mom who was born in 1959 always told me the reason I didn’t get matches was because I wasn’t paying for the app. If it’s free then it must be full of attention seeking girls who don’t wanna date. Ahhh the ignorance…
Here's another big conundrum to this problem. Tinder and other companies are confusing the men that are "alone" many by choice with the men that are "lonely". Big difference.
I deleted my Tinder last week, went to the bar with my buddies just to hangout (not even to go get girls) I had 3 girls come up to me…go out in the real world and meet girls that way. I’m not planning to marry a girl from a bar of course or get into hookup culture but dating apps are a waste of time in all honesty. I’m an attractive dude and never paid for the apps but I’ve easily went on over 100 dates+ and they have all been horrible. I am far from perfect but I’ve dated since I was 14 and it’s never been this bad. I’ve also had 3 long term relationships between 14 and 27 years old. I will be 30 this month. It’s horrible out there and in all honesty I would suggest for men to just stick to their purpose.
The problem is that meeting women or even other men, takes a bit of work. I have met guys, that I personally have to struggle to keep a conversation going. ETA this new aspect of Tinder is a digital variation of the bars that give women free admission and men have to pay.
My childhood traitors favorite method of weaponized hypergamy was to threaten to call the police whenever she didn't get her way. #MeToo . She betrayed her way to the top. Time is not a factor of female loyalty; accountability to consequences is.
I'm single and possibly lonely, but damn, I would MUCH rather be alone and have 500 bucks in my pocket than dish it out to a washed up dating app any day.
I also believe that these dating sites are realizing that the majority of women are only looking for that top 1 or 5% of men who are wealthy since the majority womens preferences want a man who makes higher income.
@@RaZoR7i7 fair and true. Should've specified that this is how women refer to these men, as they judge men without romantic success as being morally deficient and/or inferior.
I agree with everything you said in the video. That money could definitely be used on other things that are a need and way better wants as well. Besides the only sure things are death, dirt and taxes,okay? Other wise it takes work,time and smart efforts. This is what I believe to be true.😊
You know back in the day, like 5-10 years ago before I took a break from online dating, I thought online dating was really bad. Now that I'm single, I've tried reusing em. I'm amazed at how much worse they are. They're built just to take your money
Another dastardly trick all these dating do, is something i call the double ghost. 1. You match and start a conversation 2. After 3 or 4 back and forth replies, things go silent. 3. Tinder blocks your (or her) message from being received. It sends on your end and never gets receieved on her end. 4. This results in both parties believing the other went ghost.
I’ve not had a date in over two years, or anything else, and I’m still not paying for a dating app. I’m on facebook dating, nothing. I’ve tried POF, Tinder, and some others, nothing. Only matches I’ve had are the ones you see at 2am when the lights come on in the bar and you’re like ‘oh HELL NO!!’ Just cause I’m not getting any doesn’t mean I don’t have standards lol.
I know what you are going through. I’ve been on Zoosk for over seven years and I’ve only actually talked to two women. I’ve sent messages but nobody is responding. For a brief time I was also on eHarmony at the same time but again, no responses.
This is insane. The sad part is I understand that there are times when it feels like I can't get any attention from dating apps. BUT that is primarily because I am not patient enough and its just not a good option for most guys. Take that 500 each month and establish healthy habits for long term improvements.
Well, America rarely has third places to meet in person anymore and so many men and women are too busy working to the point of being too exhausted to even try and meet people (welcome to crony-capitalism). The commodification of love under capitalism and hyper-individualism is very real
You are infinitely entertaining. Thanks Courtney. I have never paid for a dating app. I would get maybe 20 women's profiles upon start-up, then 10 the following few days. Then, I'd after that, maybe 5, and that's not even matches. I have tried dating apps for two specific periods of time, and I can't. I took legit pictures, no more than one selfie, well-dressed, one with friends, yada yada. Clever prompt, the whole 9. I'll tell you what's going on, hard-working me like me are dumping our paychecks into insane rent costs. Rent is no longer reasonable if you live with roommates, and heaven forbid you want to live independently. This was not a problem until around 2016, at least in my experience. At that time, my rent for a single unit in Naples, FL was $550, now, if I want my own apartment in Colorado, I have to dish out $1500/month ON THE LOW END. My ex and I just moved out of our apartment, and now I live in a van. Good luck finding a kind, good-looking woman when you live in a van. This problem is getting out of control.
so for $500/month you get to be an unpaid beta tester for Tinder and a badge that announces to the world that you are easily separated from your money?
You also get to walk around with that big fat loser sign over you forehead for everyone to see, ya pass!
Easy IQ test
Rip
That was exactly my first thought: unpaid beta tester
At this price range you should look into professional dating services. Dating apps killed match makers, maybe it's time for a resurgence of that profession.
I am a lonely man. I have been for years. But I've never been this blinded by a dry spell. I'd rather be lonely with cash in my pocket than be lonely AND broke
YES, well said Mate.
So you are fucking your own cash
Stay strong bro. Many lonely people out there. Social media ruined the very fabric of relationships and connections in society. Nobody knows how to talk nowadays. I feel like there will come a time when everyone will crave “real” and “human” connection and dump their smartphones and social media for good
But you get a badge, you’re missing out ! 😂
Bible, Genesis 2:18-24 (NKJV) - The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”. Men is always alone. It is God decision to create women for him. He never requested for one.
$500/month for this crock of shit?! I would rather use that for a call-girl...I would get guaranteed results.
exactly
My thoughts exactly.
I bet a $500 call girl is pretty amazing...
And then she'd leave when done. Talk about a win/win.
Yep save $500 for a few months you can go to a brothel and have a girl for night
I used to hate being alone, but it's worse being around people who make you feel alone.
I agree. I'd rather be alone than be around people who dismiss, disrespect, ignore, and bully me. Took a divorce and losing a few so called friends to wake me up. But I am better off now.
@@bretttoombs2465 go on...
Yeah, I hate to hurt people just because I’m hurt, but I’ve been more and more tempted the last couple years or so to withdraw from basically all my closest friends and family. (Weirdly some who I’m not as close with, treat me better and I’d have to maintain communication with them.)
But… I don’t have the guts or the heart to ignore my my Mom for example… but I might do the closest thing by only answering with the most minimal texts, and keeping calls very short… don’t know that I could explain to her/others, or that I want to… idk… it hurts to talk casually while you’re watching your miserable life pass you by and you’re dying inside.
(Can’t wait for this comment to come back and screw me publicly someday…)
@@mrhobs .
It won't.
M family, especially my mother, is toxic. The nontoxic ones are avoidants. Either way, unwelcome strangers.
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 Yeah... and sorry to hear. Take care.
As a general rule, Tinder is NOT where you will find a decent woman if you are lonely. Meeting people in person through mutual interests/friends was and still is the best way
That's the hard part though. Where do you even get friends or meet with people that have similar interests?
This is 2023. Good luck with that.
@@endergamer.mp4depending on your interests. For example if you’re into archery and go to shooting ranges you can meet people there, book clubs, instagram. You can meet people your age if you have cousins your age that you hangout with, you can all go out.
@@endergamer.mp4I do think meeting new people is hard tho. I haven’t really made too many new friends since I graduated high school in 2014. I’ve made only a handful, but we aren’t close. I Mostly hangout with my friends that I’ve know since grade school, my family and my boyfriends family. We have many cousins our age range and we hangout often
At my age most of my friends are married, or ended up in bad relationships themselves and are too dysfunctional to network with. (not judging them, just saying they're probably not the best advice-givers)
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. No matter how lonely I am, I refuse to go on dating apps and simp after women for attention. As a man, if a woman doesn’t like you, no amount of pursuing/chasing will change that. This applies even if you paid 500 dollars a month for this supposedly advanced tinder tier dating option.
Daamn.... Spot on 😮. I mean at some point everyone simps a bit. Right?
@@dbmdrums1105 Relaxing your guards to allow someone to get to know how you truly are is okay. Simping (allowing others to take advantage of you) is not.
@@dbmdrums1105
“Everyone” you know a lot of people? I think that what you are doing is generalizing (maybe to make yourself feel better!!) How’s that working out?!? If you want to be a simp, go for it; but taking “everyone” on that ride is not cool.
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This has got to be the dumbest most ignorant comment I've seen yet on this video and shows how many guys just tell on themselves that they have no real world experience. Being on a dating app is not simping. Do any of you even know what simping means? Simping is you wasting resources directly on a woman who does not reciprocate. If a guy wants to potentially meet women in other cities states countries etc, you will have to use dating apps. If you prefer to hate women and be alone forever, stay away from them.
As always, Courtney is absolutely spot-on! It is beyond ridiculous paying $500 a month just to try to get to meet someone online and schedule a date. More importantly, as she pointed out so clearly, use that money to improve yourself and the right person will come along. Don’t throw away your hard earned money!
Thank you for this video, Courtney! More men need to watch it!
Amen!
Is having a status symbol like a big house or exotic sports car ridiculous too?
This is obviously a way to show off wealth to future prospects and if it helps men in that capacity then so what?
Women can attract with their looks alone but men who aren't so attractive need to make that money. And if we have a lot of money to waste then why not on a premium Tinder subscription?
@@RealHomeRecording Go for it. But if you're gonna flash status symbols and flaunt money, don't be surprised if all you attract is parasitic gold diggers.
@@RealHomeRecording if wealth is all that you can offer, wealth is all they are going to take, at least until someone wealthier comes along. I’m not against the functionality of the app or the absurdity of it. All about freedom and capitalism here.
However, it is truly obscene, disgusting, and unethical, (albeit legal) for a company to capitalize on male loneliness, and that is exactly what it is doing. Do I want government to ban dating apps because of that? Absolutely not. Do I appreciate the fact that good women with great moral standards take the time in their lives to talk to men and show them better ways to go about finding a good a decent partner in life? Absolutely, yes.
@@RealHomeRecordingBig houses and exotic sports cars are useful. At best, a dating app is slightly useful hence that extra money is useless. At best, it will attract gold diggers, which is worse than useless.
I've told myself a few times, "I'm done with dating." In reality I probably mean, "I'm done with dating apps."
It's crazy how much of a scam dating can be for men.
Society itself is a scam for men. Women take about 3x as many tax benefits
I've never tried a dating app. I haven't dated in 25 years. I do need another cat though. They do provide loyalty, friendship, understanding and mischief.
I was on the apps for about a week. And quickly realized it is a joke.
I decided to get over my anxiety meeting new people. Toughen up and just do it.
I've now meet someone and things are going great.
Get off those apps.
Work on ur flaws and get out there boys. Believe in yourself.
Fr fr. You figured it out :))
Thank you for talking about this. The dating app executives and marketing teams have reached a new low that I thought was only possible for politicians and the corporate media.
What a lonely world we live in. Surrounded by people but we can be grifted out of money just for the tentative hope of finding someone to go through life with.
not really. Nobody forces you to be lazy and desperate, to delude yourself into thinking that paying money will somehow compensate for years of not working to get a partner. And this goes both for men and women. Most likely the 500$ Tinder program is aimed a women, no normal man would buy it.
@@adrianmainz2716Wrong.
@@adrianmainz2716 Unfortunately, you’re incorrect. Granted, most men who make this kind of money that would enable them to afford this probably, as a rule, don’t fall for this kind of thing-but that’s not who it’s aimed at. It’s aimed at the man who can’t afford this, but who is desperate enough to mortgage something-house, car, whatever-in order meet someone. As I’ve said in other comments, the gambit itself is despicable.
A woke liberal world.
You obviously didn't watch the video lmao.@@adrianmainz2716
No one should ever have to pay for love. Period. This is such a scam and I feel sorry for those who fall victim to it. Use your money to improve yourself, not buy someone.
I dont feel sorry at all! If you that desperate you need some work to do!
I mean, when you think about it, most men pay for love in one way or another. But yeah, ridiculous doesn’t even begin to describe this.
All love is paid for thru all of human history and into the future will continue as well.
@@dougbarnowski5224yeah it's all mens fault huh??? Society definitely isn't against men in anyway huh.... they all need to just man up
Love isn’t “paid” for, it’s built by investment.
Thank you for a good laugh Courtney. I no longer date or do relationships so I don’t have, nor will I ever have, Tinder or any other dating app. But your facial expressions alone in response to Tinder’s stated rationale made this worth the watch 😂
Her expressions are the best! A good example of communication being mostly body language.
Sometimes removing the stress of "dating" allows people to see each other in a different light. Low expectations clear the way for more sincere interactions.
Courtney, thank you for shedding a light on this, but you have no idea the full scope of this epidemic. I'm part of a much smaller community that relies mainly on matchmakers and the outrageous sums people have started demanding up front can only reasonably be described as taking advantage. Our society is in big trouble.
Thanks for this video, Courtney. I went ahead and cancelled my last remaining sub to Match. I've been on dating apps over the years with only a few connections that didn't even turn into dates. A couple of weeks ago I went to my first speed dating event and matched with 7 women. Never in my life would I have foreseen that. It goes to show how incredibly important it is to have personal contact with others over browsing 2D images. I have never considered myself photogenic, but does have charisma if people just give me a chance and meet in person.
The largest hurdle for most men in online dating is the height filter. No membership fee is going to stop that.
'height filter' is for your own benefit. you don't want to spend your life with someone who ONLY gave you a chance because you happened to tick a box
Filters in general and the easy judgement of dating apps has always been a problem. I know people have their standards, but dating apps basically made it okay to judge people even more harshly, even outside of the app. Sometimes back in the day people would just connect and ignore their standards, that just don't happen anymore and it's sad.
I'm 193 cm I still pull 0 bitches
@@FishSandvichso damn true. That filter works in our favour lmao. We can separate the toxic ones & the genuine ones. I'm 6'2" but still I don't wanna date a girl who has unrealistic standards & judges a person only by something they can't control.
I bet there is no weight filter.
I always appreciate you having our backs. I've been single for five years now. It's nice having your videos to watch.
single = just you and god
@@mikelisteral7863 just you and god = schizophrenia
get an escort like I do
@David-vt9hr Even Batman wouldn't of been able to beat that outta me & you just voluntarily say it 😂😂
@@David-vt9hrI’m always afraid those are scams lol. Some pimp lurking lol
I deleted all of the dating apps about 2 months ago.
I haven't been this happy in 2 years, and I'm not dating ANYONE. It's amazing. I'll wait for a good one, or just be single & happy.
Contentment is king!
Only 2 months? I haven't gone near one for over 10 years
Never used one. I dunno how I landed on this channel, weird recommendation x)
Single life is happy tho.
@@clementm9161 Same, no I tried once for 1 week bumble got two matches not one texted back so I deleted the app. I am single now but my 2 ex gf I met through school and the other one in group workshop! Guys certain Workshops are really good to meet new people, especially women, but theres obviously never a guarantee.
I've known two men in my life who've done really well on dating apps. One was a sociopath and the other had a crack addiction.
It's all about manipulation or looks, always has been. Especially in the world of short term relations, sociopaths are going to annihilate the scene. Not sure how the crackie did so well though.
some girls like free drugs@@buffcode
Hi Courtney, I agree with you about dating apps. In my view there are scammers pretending to be a women on a fake profiles.
I’m completely convinced we live in some dystopian blade runner world or something this is insane 😭
In the 21st century, a blood-black nothingness began to spin.
@@sound_elevation Cells Interlinked
@@CrazyLoudGamer Within one stem. And dreadfully distinct, against the dark. A tall, white fountain played...
*_YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BASELINE_*
@@antigloboshlomo Lmao I love that movie
1982 is in the past.
2019 is in the past.
2031 isn't.
Behind "Services like these " there is a board of men who plan by this way " How can we turn lonely men into money " . Kings protect your wallets don't give in to these money hungry people . Courtney covered this perfectly .
And it goes from Courtney over Donald Trump and to Andrew Tate.. It is all the exact same business-model. Sorry to say. ;)
I think this 500$ service is targeted at women. No man will buy the "right" to message 2 women that rejected him. However, ladies that want to use their money in order to talk with young men (who did not swipe on them), have a good chance of actually convincing young men to date them in exchange of said money.
@johnsampson6387 As long as they are banking on it they are happy , exploiting men for them is not important , unfortunately .
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Again you are showing yourself wise beyond your years. I got on Tinder 2 years ago and decided I would attempt the annual membership of $120. Within 3 months I was so sick of what I was experiencing from those leeches that were coming out towards me that I just deleted my account. Dating apps are crap. Thank you for your honesty.
What do you mean by leeches? The matches or tinder?
@@carrionflowers6764 I had quite a few of them wanting money. That's what I mean by a leech.
always try before you buy. If you aren't happy with the service when free, why spend more on it?
I was a free member for a couple of months and I got some somewhat promising nibbles. So I figured I'd go ahead and give it a real try and that's when everything went to pot.
@@Tenorman51 I've never dated online and never will. But from what I have _heard,_ those "promising nibbles" you had for the first couple of months as a new member, were pushed by the app on purpose to try to get you hooked, and then they also on purpose dry up the matches to make you wonder what's going on, and get you to pay up for more.
Courtney might talk a game about dating apps... as a woman, though. Not as a man. Only near the end of the video did she finally wonder what was her now-husband's experience on it. Truth is, only the highest-value men get almost all of the share of women approaching them, whereas most men who are even above average have very few prospects if any.
I suppose consequently though, it also means most women are highly materialistic and superficial - which is naturally bad news for high value males in that regard, since most of the women approaching them only want his wallet, the lamborghini rides and the free lobster dinners. It makes sense given that you reported being approached by so many leeches.
never ever was i desperate enough to pay for anything on a dating app.
i go years at a time without so much as a handshake from a woman, usually about 4 years each encounter, and still would scoff at the thought of stooping so low to pay anything to tinder or any dating app.
walking away from dating apps was one of the best things i could have done for my mental health.
Bravo🙌🙏. So many influencers are swayed to endorse services and goods for money. Your advice on this scam is refreshing and brutally honest. Sadly many men will fall for this because dating today is a borderline a disaster. Well done…and keep up the great and enlightening advice.
Just watching this video got me super depressed! I once paid for a dating app over the course of 6 months, and in that duration, I never established a single date. I will never do that again!
I’m in the same boat, except I got one date were I got stood up 😂 I’m ready to give up and I consider my self a decent looking guy, like I have a visible 6 pack and that’s not enough now days
Piece of advice I got from women that I'm friends with: being on a "paid tier" immediately brands you as a desperate simp and caps your best outcome to "dick in a jar".
Piece of advice I got from data engineers at dating app companies: it makes no sense for a single straight man to use them, on most of them the stats are something like the top 15% of male profiles are getting around 80-90% of the likes from female profiles.
Dont support thèse awful companies.
This reminds me of when I was watching a documentary about male loneliness, and it then introduced the Japanese hikikomori (Japanese lonely males). As soon as it mentioned the part where girls were "helping" them overcome their loneliness by charging them money to talk to them etc - my immediate response was *NO.* _NO, NO, NO._
Because what immediately hit me in that moment was all the context leading up to it: our history of silent cultural messaging in the background that we have accepted for too long, shaming men so extensively (weak, loser - said derogatorily not sympathetically) to the point that even without batting an eye we throw in there some extra largely-unrelated descriptors as if just to get our kicks from it (misogynistic, toxic - yes, apparently somehow suffering males equates misogyny.)
And here, in the middle of this, society (in this case primarily women) swooped in to eat these males alive - exploiting their weak state, in the middle of beating them with the blame stick, for money, for the *pretense* of being liked. All without a single criticism of it by the documentary or anyone interviewed - but rather painting these girls as heroes. Why does this happen? Society isn't only women - it's also men. When society encourages male loneliness and suffering, it's the women _and the men_ who encourage it. Both reciprocate what it means to be the "right kind of male" in society, both punish and shame men for suffering.
I also remember a conversation I had with an acquaintance of mine in the past, where we got around to talking about my depression, and she immediately without even missing a beat just nonchalantly said "why don't you just hire an escort?" I was stunned and she went on something like "yeah you'll have sex and you'll feel better." Um, no? Even forgetting how she just so insultingly casually said it, just the content of the message is in and of itself insulting. Is this how women think of males? Right, I'll pay someone what money I have, to pretend to want to be with me? Needless to say, it didn't take long for my acquaintance to prove not to be friendship material.
Too many guys have effectively been told they have no value - and then they're figuratively beaten for having the audacity to suffer for that. All I can say right now is beg them not to let society reinforce that feeling of low-value such as insulting notions like _paying for intimacy._ Don't do it, you're worth far more than that. I know it's not easy, but somehow, you'll have to find the strength to pull yourself out, hopefully you find people who actually care to help you out of actual compassion for you, build yourself up little by little and in doing so increasingly realize your own value.
@@Tcat586 Yeah, men definitely have a much higher sex drive than women so it makes sense - and in fact, that should be something acknowledged instead of demonized, since it's just a pretty fundamental part of maleness. That's not to say that of course detrimental things can result from it, but unnuanced, hamfisted narratives like "toxic masculinity" open up a _lot_ of problems - including for women, not just primarily men. These kinds of narratives, the constant shifting of bad behaviours to being "male" (consequently pardoning female behaviours as automatically good - if a female is bad it's "internalized misogyny" to lay the blame back on men), easily leads to people just having such a dehumanizing view of males that they can barely even fathom that men are not just sex-hungry dogs (some men might be, and some men are nothing even close), that men are individuals and they suffer all the emotions as women do.
They say "men need to be in touch with their emotions" but at the same time they're constantly talking over us and screeching over us, we shut down and keep our thoughts private. Then come the head-slaps and the harpy-shriek demands to "open up and communicate and talk about our feelings" lol. Not all women of course - but it's an alarmingly common theme for a reason. It really goes to show how much society has demonized the suffering male - they pretty much don't ever shut up for a minute and _actually listen._
hikikomori is a different thing. it goes well beyond male loneliness. it goes way into the extreme ends of it. hikikomori don't engage with anything outside of their rooms. at all. not that they can't and want to. they just don't want to. they don't see a point in socializing, finding a job, getting out of the house. don't see a point in being part of humanity a whole. many hikikomori do not even leave their rooms and live off welfare. there are also female hikikomori and these are different from men. very similar at first but intentions change. female hikikomori often suffer from extreme anxiety and cannot interact at all with the opposite sex without having a panic attack. most want to be part of society, as opposed to the male hikikomori who have just given up on everything, but they don't know how and can't find a way to break that barrier. there is probably a lot more to this, so far this is my understanding of hikikomori
Dear Lord
SO MUCH unfiltered truth in a single comment!
Every american movie or tv show you watch, white heterosexual male is depicted some weak simp , stupid and imcompentent....
But in reality white heterosexual male is the most compentent male on the planet on avg...
it's rather tragicomedy, how american multimedia is and how twisting reality...
What toxic masculinity, what misogyny? (these are all dialectics of the neomarxist end-of-history cultists buzzwords)... as someone who has observed the world since 2008, because too much free time and not working class...
american society is completely extremely crazy... toxic masculinity is being weak beta male.. liberal... emotional man... that's what toxic masculinity is....
there's nothing more aggressive than insecure beta male, who is constantly emotional and has a need to prove himself how "manly" he is...
all the violent men are emotional men , all liberals are emotional and men who vote liberals is questionable that they even are men... men are stoic and control their emotion and are not phased easily and don't react to things around them (specially violently...)
In america there's easy correlation to draw, wich are the most violent places in america? american ghettos, specially like chicago and detroit... who is the male majority population?
blacks, mexicans (whites as well obviously...) , what they all have in common? they vote liberal/democrat
it's sadens me to see how america is completely infiltrated by dialectic cult and how with american cultural characeristics your society is restructured into communism... literally the same mentally illl dialectic cult wich east-europe went thru for 50~ years - pure hell ... but american version of it is even more extreme , scary stuff .. (i lived thru soviet union briefly..)
I guess only east-europeans comprehend fully what's happening at the moment in america....
don't want to sound like doomsday advocate (wich core of dialectic cult actually is, end of humanity and progress means towards synthesis and spawning new thesises, like a loop... up to "godhood".. the end of history, devolving back to the garden of eden... thats how twisted they all are...) , but proactively and real-time you can witness how they are bringing the world into ww3 , but the war is more like 5th generation psychological warfare, you don't fight in the trench.... the war is fight in the minds of the civilian populations...
@@badrequest5596 perfectly describes a roommate i had for the last 2 years....he passed away last september at 30yo...landlady found him 2 weeks later and when his mother learned about it she was super happy to get the insurance...
At this point I would actually rather have friends to ease the loneliness.
friendship is the first step to a healthy intimate relationship
if you're not interested in being friends and just wanting to know each other and be in each other's lives in that aspect, then anything else is not good
and so the approach should be, only caring about cultivating friendship, and THEN if something HAPPENS to grow AFTER that, be open to it, communicate, etc., but, not be SEEKING IT IN people, it's unhealthy bad approach
@@zerpblerd5966 that clearly went miles above your head.
FRIENDS. Not a relationship.
no, what I said went above your's, it seems
geez @@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121
Relatable. I'm actually MUCH better at one-night stand than making friends.
I also never went to school and was primarily raised around women so that figures.
The last time someone invited me to actually hang out was in 2017. I don't know if I even know HOW to chill anymore
@JosiahGensler Yeah I couldn't be less interested in dating. It has been my experience in 100% of my relationships that they eventually end. Friendships are stronger, more meaningful bonds... When they happen, that is.
I love this new attitude. Thank you for this.
I tried dating aps years ago and literally no one lived in the same state as me. I gave up after the scammers, the politely asking and trying to be a gentleman, and I said enough is enough. Doesn't matter if it was faith based, free, adult focused, or whatever other method. I just said enough and gave up looking for a relationship a decade ago. Now I'm focusing on trying to making my book a success, getting a job that is in the field I love, and trying to adopt another kitty as I had to give my loyal companion of 17 years back to God over a year ago and I am tired of being lonely.
People who can afford 500 dollars per month for a dating service most likely have enough options to not need it 😂👍
Most likely the 500$ Tinder program is aimed a women, no normal man would buy it.
Ehm no. I have much more than 500 €/$/chf/£ as disposable income per month. My options are exactly at zero.
(And no, I won't pay tinder anything. That's just a scam)
Rich dudes still pay for escorts and sugar babies.
500$ a month and still zero matches. You can spend it for hookers 3 times a month and get sex.
Shallow narrow minded opinion
I met guys in the nineties that went to dating introduction services and it was a total waste. They paid between $3500 and $4000 for three dates. The one man said I could go to any bar in town and find a woman that was higher quality than what they set me up with. Not one of the guys got a second date.
For 4,000 a guy could get a mediocre escort bi-weekly for an entire year.
Well duh. Just imagine the type of women that needs this kind of agencies just to attract men. They must have been very ugly attraction wise and personlity wise.
@@robertnewett5932that would cost more like 20'000
Bumble is being sued, and I'm sure more will be too. What you say is totally correct. Why is it that I get a million AMAZING matches the first week, then i'm out of matches after that and have to pay? Well,, turns out its because the apps are lying. They are the worst pieces of human garbage taking advantage of people's lonliness.
so I used to go to a really expensive spin class (indoor cycling) with a friend in Seattle. A monthly membership was 4 or 5 hundred dollars. My friend, a young female successful professional, said she liked that it was expensive because it kept out the poor guys. people who think they are exclusive want to use services that allow them to connect to other exclusive people.
This is so sad. Unbelievable. You're exactly right about this.
Don't use dating apps guys. You're better than that
I can't go out drinking every weekend to the bars. I got a career to maintain tho..
yeah, just make ur money and get on out there and enjoy life.@@brent4073
I don't use dating apps, and haven't met an available woman in decades.
@@brent4073 there are other places where you can "mingle"
@@drewthompson7457it's tough out there
Thanks for pointing this out about men being lonely
lots of women are lonely too though
It was only a matter of time before they found a way to monetize lonliness. Dating sites are becoming more like twitch. As you said, they aren't useless, but in general people should get back in the practice of meeting people in person and developing their confidence and social skills. You can get (and give) a much better first impression of people you meet that way.
Arthur Brooks says that anything you do alone and compulsively that gives you momentary solitary pleasure through spikes of dopamine becomes an addiction. And addiction creates loneliness. He empathizes that it doesn't create happiness because happiness is a byproduct of doing something with people and enjoying it.
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I'm happy to say that I met someone on tinder, and I've deleted the app. Weve been seeing each other for a few months now. Never thought I'd find the person I didn't know I was looking for on tinder, and I couldn't be happier. As happy as I am, it makes me sad that dating apps are designed in a way that my experience is an aberration and not more common for people.
Yeah I wouldn't get too excited just yet, bucko.
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Tinder is ripping us off
The whole idea of a dating app is a rip off. It they get paid for you using it, why would they want you to leave?
Big time
Morning little sis. I hope you’re having a wonderful week; thanks for all you do for us.
🤍🤍 it’s my pleasure!
@@Tondaloona03 What's creepy?
@@Tondaloona03 Courtney calls herself our "big sis", but I'm older than her so modify it and call her little sis and have done so for years. She's never had an issue with it and has even called me brother / friend in the past. It's a pity people like you that jump to conclusions about things they know nothing about.
It's not creepy. You've been watching too much anime porn. It's a common expression from an older fellow to a younger woman when, in fact, the fella wants to make it clear he *isn't* creeping on her.
Thanks @@valecrassus7835 I've called her that (here and on instagram) for years and she never said anything remotely negative about it in fact it tends to be a positive response.
It's now called the gold-digging scammer badge. Only gold-diggers, scammers, and escorts will message these desperate men now. And, those women are already on some contacts list at the dating app.
This has become Ashley Madison without the discretion.
This is litterally true. Big fat “ rip me off” sign attached to the account
Look I'm just going to tell how it is. Miss Courtney Ryan here can talk a big game about dating but the fact is she is a very attractive woman.
Things are different when you are an average or below average guy such as myself. Finding dating prospects was not easy after about the age of 25. So if this $500 per month badge helps me find dates then so be it. $500 per month for a status symbol is cheap to someone who is single, childless and wealthy.
@@RealHomeRecording 🫣 everything you said is true, except that checkmark on the profile is a big fat target for the wrong type of person
Go have a listen to alexander grace. Or wingmam, the two BEST voices in the male dating space. For sustainable,happy LTR
Good fortunes on the hunting to us are
Weidmannsheil!!
@@RealHomeRecording 25! So young! Maybe don't be average. Develop your charisma and confidence levels. I am a lot older, and wish I was 25 and average. I have grey hair and wrinkles, and never been considered 'handsome', not even by my mother!!! But I get the dates just from people I meet in life. No dating apps, I just treat women with respect, listen to them, make them laugh with a bit of flattery, then they want my number to continue the chat some time.
Oh, and I spend no money. Summertime parks with a picnic blanket and a flask of tea works for me. It is not being about cheap, it is just better if there is no expectations of money being lavished.
Sadly though, my favourite woman has moved away from me to university and it is now long distance, with messages in the evening and nothing else all day. But she does check in every evening to tell me about her day, and I write her stuff then. Although she has 'abandoned me', to never be seen again, I only want her. I met her in the street asking for directions, I wasn't even 'evaluating' her, so no chat up line needed.
With age I am sure you can develop charisma that matters more than money, looks, status or peacocking. As Courtney has said, it isn't all about looks as far as women are concerned, they are not as shallow as us.
problem is your gonna get a date with the wrong type of woman. This symbol is a sign that the man is desperate for sexual female attention so much that hes willing to pay 500 bucks a month and woman will sense that and pounce on the guy play the game and bleed you dry. You can't enter from a position of desperation you have to enter from a position of plentifulness and by buying this your portraying yourself in a negative light.@@RealHomeRecording This could work if your a player and just looking for sex, since your both playing each other, but no meaningful relationship will develop from this badge. That being said no meaninful relationship will develop from regular tinder either so the badge is useless
Thank you Courtney, I totally agree!
I am so incredibly thankful that I am in a fantastic relationship now and don't have to use dating apps anymore. They have always been a nightmare for me as an average man.
Courtney a sincere thank you for your empathy. There must be a lot of lost souls out there, there being so many dating apps like flies around dung.
You said it, Tinder is a business. They're preying on lonely men, who are the only ones who would be silly enough that would pay for this crap.
most of the profiles of women on these apps aren't even real. Just manufactured bots to keep desperate men swiping and sending messages...hoping for a response. I think it's a scam.
In another blog I heard that for $500 man would be able to message women even before they would accept connection.
Women would see it as needy stalking and it would make chances worse for such men.
Later Tinder would offer women a paid way to block such upfront messages
This makes me think of that old Mickey Gilley song Lookin' for Love.
"I was lookin' for love in all the wrong places"
I need a shower, or two after hearing about Tinder's scuzzy behavior.
You're a real Bro and a beautiful person.
I have not used a dating site since 2016. I enjoy the challenge of getting to know women out in the real world. It’s not easy for men to do that but practice is the mother of skill. With that said I’m single at the moment and actually enjoying my freedom stay strong Kings!!
I am a 23 year old guy who has never entered the dating market in my life. I have never had a girlfriend, never approached a girl because i always think that she will reject me either way and refuse to pay for something like Tinder because I know it will be useless.
I feel this changed my mindset and perspective on talking to or interacting with women, I read it on a forum, I thought the guy hit the nail right on the head.
It changed my perspective and mindset on talking to women.
A guy was asking for advice on how to get better at talking to women, and people used the word practice
"It bothers and annoys, enrages me or pisses me off a lot when people use the word practice, because the way I see it, for women, there is no such thing as practicing talking to men, because women's lives are on autopilot when it comes to talking to men since puberty, due to all of the constant attention they've been getting since then, women are forced to, have no choice but to learn how to talk to men, and they gain it right away by doing nothing since they don't have to open their mouth first"
I thought to myself, never truer words have been said or spoken.
I thought that was bang-on right there.
and i got a response from a dating coach on youtube, which enraged and pissed me off more, while I don't disagree with him, I just don't like how he said the brutal cold harsh fact of how different for men and women when it comes to getting better at talking to and interacting with the opposite sex.
It makes sense and I like to believe there is far more advice for guys in the world on how to talk to and interact with girls then there is advice for girls on how to talk to and interact with guys.
He said:
"Don't worry about what other people don't have to do or why something is easier for them or whatever the comparison may be. Focus on you, where you want to be, what you need to do to get there and then get moving."
That pissed me off more when I read that.
Another reason why I don't like it is because it feels or seems like the way a guy talks and interacts with people or a guy's social skills, the way he behaves around others, has a much bigger impact on his attractiveness or ability to get a girlfriend then the other way around. As in, the way a girl talks or a girl's social skills doesn't impact her attractiveness or ability to get a boyfriend as much as it does for a guy to get a girlfriend. Men need to focus more on the behavioral aspect than women do when it comes to attracting someone it seems. The main reason why i hate that, is because guys, men, can unfortuneately be labeled creepy or weird in interactions or social situations with women, even if the guy, man, never meant any harm, was never trying to hurt the woman, the reverse isn't true though. The way a man talks or behaves in a conversation or in an interaction between a man and a woman is what makes or breaks attraction, not the other way around.
And due to men always having been expected to walk up to women and open our mouth, it makes more sense for the man to need to practice but not the woman.
If an interaction or conversation goes poorly or bad between a man and a woman,. It's always the guys fault, it's impossible for a woman to screw up a conversation or interaction with a guy, it seems., as in, make someone feel uncomfortable.
Men have to do all the practicing and all the learning, women just have to exist and automatically have dudes lined up wanting to be with them, that doesn't take any training or practice or trial and error or learning
This did get me to thinking how much a dating coach quoted me a few years ago. I think it was around $4000 for 6-12 months. No guarantees you would meet anyone. At 56, since it hasn’t happened by now I doubt it will. I’ll just use that $500 a month to enjoy my hobbies.
I said from the beginning, dating and hookup-apps will ruin our society.
Tinder and a bunch of these other dating apps can go out of business for all I care. Hardly anyone actually gets a serious relationship out of them. When I'm asking a girl on a 1st date I insist on asking her out *in person.*
Thank for this Courtey steping up for men
Fella's under 30, (Im 33).... Once you worked for something, have your own place(s), travel a bit, family (if they are supportive), you don't really care for validation from outsiders because alot of people do not have peace within their own world and don't know how to compliment your life. Create peace, and you will realize 9/10 of the women you encounter are pretty vicious and critical. Especially here in America. Life is a balance.
For $500 per month you can get a woman to clean your apartment, wash your clothes, iron them, pick up some shopping and maybe cook you some basic meals for the freezer. This is worth paying for if you are a very busy professional. I have done it. My wife meanwhile I got for free.
EDIT: Dating apps is like men always have to pay to go into nightclubs but women often don't on quiet midweek nights.
lol even after all that is covered I have a feeling there would still be enough $ left over to pay for a jump. Boxes ticked.
Pay me $500/month, I’ll get you a date. I’m almost 100% positive I can get better results than tinder lol.
£500 per Month? Nooo. £500 per hour? 100%
@@MRJDXTRA500 dollar an hour? you better be getting a f*ck, and not just any other f*ck, but a f*ck worthy of porn films.
I might as well get a basket and run around town throwing money at random girls
Dating apps don't work for squat for me. Mostly scammers. I'm alone and a bit lonely. But I am not that desperate.
As a man, I just wanted to say: *thank you for caring.* No, really, it means the WORLD that a woman like you actually cares about us. It's a huge breath of fresh air in an extremely misandristic society.
Yeah , its not often you see this 👌 she's like a cool sister or good friend
Amen
Amen
What shocks me the most is that Tinder still doesn't understand that these 'badges' are counter-productive and make dudes look desperate. If you want to pay to have a normal-looking profile put in front of the top women - that makes sense. But let's use some basic psychology fellas!
The last few dating apps I’ve experienced would get stagnant. You’d see the same matches over and over. You’d reach out to girls that seemed like a good match and mostly not hear anything. I’ve found just getting outside and around people has been better. Lifting weights and doing things that interest me has helped. Personally, I think it’s better to build relationships in your networks and attending things will give more success. 1. You’re happier 2. You’re more social 3. Confidence grows. 4. People that know you will also look out for you too. They may have the perfect person for you as well
There's several things at play with the stagnation:
1. Less women are using the apps. The M to F ratio is now at 4:1 so about 75% men to 25% women. When the ratio isn't balanced, it practically makes OLD useless.
2. A new profile gets prioritized exposure which gives the initial attention high, but it dies out as time goes on.
3. The options are NOT as endless as OLD marketing would have ppl believe. It's like being presented with a pile of items & told to find the one you want. With every swipe/ match/ discard, the pile gets smaller & smaller until it's pretty much gone.
4 on your “it’s better” is bullshit though because none of the people who rib me about being single or tell me they can’t believe I’m single have ever so much as offered to help me look for anyone.
@@justacoginthefkery All great points!
@@lgmmrm Sorry to hear that
@@Z25MikeD thank you. I honestly think it's time ppl leave the apps as they're doing way more harm than anything. When you think about it, who really benefits from men's low self-esteem, low self-worth, social anxiety, hookup culture, fear of socializing or approaching women in real life? It's not women or feminism. It's actually the dating app companies. Their billions depend on all those things to keep men hyper-reliant on the apps. Crazy.
You are a rare breed Courtney, a person of high moral character who just happens to be a beautiful woman, your husband is one lucky guy, thank you and God Bless.
nah shes lucky to have him
@@kc270352 really? aren't we all here because to meet normal woman is almost impossible these days?
Nah,mediocre at best
You do know he's a multi millionaire, right?
@@MikeyP109 1. How do you know? 2. Even if it's true - so what?
Dating apps have all really gone to crap. They are all now asking crazy expensive monthly fees. Except maybe bumble. $500 is a crime. Imagine how many nights out you could take for that. Or doing stuff that youll meet woman or men naturally.
You offer incredibly helpful advice, thank you Courtney!
I definitely fall under this list. With my own experiences along with what I see women do in various content (shame guys at the gym, get pregnant with athletes for a pay-day, make-up assault allegations for a pay-day, set unrealistic standards, mental games they play and how they advise other women to do the same) I would rather just stay lonely and make the best out of it.
Why are you going after the girls who do those things?
@@cda6590 No one actually "goes" for these women. You just never know what their intentions are until you sign that contract with the government. The only contract that pays women for quitting.
@@briar35981 lmao I'm about as anti redpill as you can get while being a dude and even I know marriage is a scam. I wouldn't involve the government in my relationship no matter how many prenups I had.
Ppl also fail to realize that most of the content you see online is for show. The extremes & negativity get more clicks so that's what ppl put out there. Not what's reasonable & realistic, but what is sensational enough to play on someone's feelings. After so long, it fks with your head. Be careful with what you consume & how much.
@@justacoginthefkery We are quickly approaching a point in society where what is on the screen is more pertinent to what is real than what is "reasonable and realistic." Think of how much of today's youth aspire to make a living--aka have their life dependent upon--social media and the internet in general? Whether they live or die depends more on what the screen says than what reality has to say.
I never once used a dating app and never will there are alot of real men out there over 6 feet ( I'm 6 , 1 ) with 6 packs and making well over 6 figures ( and making it legally to that is ) basically the 3 sixs women want , you will never see them on any dating app , we get women in the real world, I see it happening all the time , these men are black , white , Hispanic and other races . And believe it or not I'm Christian I do not go around using women for sex , that is considered sinful and will take you to hell when you die . The red bandana and gat in my picture are from my younger days , every man I have met in my life using tinder is just trying to find women for sex , it's 2023 how do people still think tinder is a dating app . Anyhow real men are out there , they are not on tinder..
That's awesome ❤
@@KatarinaMorganUlan-go4cnI ll second that that's awesome
Keeping it real lol
That's great news very happy to hear that
Im surprised courtney has not highlighted this comment there is no way she hasn't see this this is the best comment I think I have ever seen on UA-cam like seriously
The only guaranteed result of paying $500 a month for VIP membership is that other women on Tinder will be laughing at us and calling us pathetic losers
sounds like a great deal. Paying $500 a month to be called a pathetic loser by women who aren't even worth the time nor the effort. No thanks. I will focus on myself instead.
It reminds me of this time in 2000 when I moved to a new city, and got involved in a matchmaking site. Back then, for 1500$, they made you fill out a bunch of forms and promised iirc 5 or 6 matches. One "mistake" I made when filling out those forms is being open-minded for physical attributes. I was an average professional guy in his late twenties, 5'10" 200 pounds. Not being picky I set my ranges for a good pick from 5 feet to 5 feet 10... didn't matter. But then for weight range... you have to allow for your choice, a 5 feet girl might weigh 90 pounds... a 5'10 girl might be healthy at 160-170 pounds. Well, woe is me, my first three matches were more around the 5 feet 160 pounds range. After the third match, I just gave up... lol
I'm never paying another dime for dating apps or first dates, even if a woman would actually show up.
A small coffee is as far as ill go.
That’s how far ANY guy should go. If she thinks coffee dates aren’t the ideal first date, ditch her.
bad policy to NOT pay for a first and second date - itll just hinder your results, trust me, thats where your money SHOULD go - just keep it to inexpensive dates and not dinner ($100 per date total max)
That bit at the end about you creating a male profile was really interesting. I'd love to see a video (or series) exploring a few different sites (maybe using your husband's or a friend's photos)... does paying on any of them enhance results? How do matches seem initially? What type/quality of women do you match with, etc...
I think she said she was going to do this a couple years ago when she reacted to Alexander Grace video where his friend used his pics & created profile & saw first hand how demoralizing apps are for men.
If she does finally get around to it then she needs to make several control groups 2 utilizing a very good looking guy's pics & another 2 using a average looking guy's pics. One with money & prestige the other average job & salary. That will yield the best range to test results.
@@zipperpig You vastly underestimate how the algorithm fucks guys over. There's no shortage of videos backed up by the former employees that program the algorithm, on how apps keep people single on UA-cam. I highly recommend you watch a few, tinder & all it's subsidiaries (yes nearly all the apps are under a single corp umbrella) are straight evil. They're legitimately on par with Arasaka, Umbrella, Militech, & every other fictional evil corporation. Hell most real life corporations on the planet are legit evil.
i have been single for years and dont feel alone
becuase of where i am at within my self i perfer peace than people 95% of people in this world are fake
better to be alone than surround by fake people that offer noting of goodness to your life
we dont need completing we are allready whole
1:15 - Yes, this is correct because Tinder has reported drops in revenues. They have to keep the cash machine functioning.
Courtney has the absolute BEST facial reactions and it’s funny sometimes you make the exact same facial I’m making lmao
Definitely sounds like tinder is losing its appeal and is grabbing at anything they can at this point!
It was never a good idea to begin with.
Hey Courtney you should do a feature on matchmakers and how much they cost on average and stuff just as a response to this. The assumption is that the cost of a matchmaker is too high but compared to the costs of dating apps they might be the more reasonable option these days. Really give it a look. It's fascinating to see how much they cost and how much those costs vary. It seems that the whole field is rather niche and if it was utilized more with more competition prices could normalize.
I'd be very interested in seeing this two.
Thanks for always telling it how it is, Courtney
Never used Tinder, never will. No way in hell 👹 I would ever pay that much to anyone for anything. That is such a scam and they aren't even trying to hide it. Great video and info on this.
The best time to stop paying for a dating app is to never start. I might be single and somewhat lonely but I I refuse to spend $4.99 on a dating app. Hell would freeze over before I spent $499 on it.
Your dignity isn't for sale
This video came out at just the right time for me. I just stopped my subscription to Christian Mingle yesterday and I was feeling a little bad about it, because I hadn't had much "luck" with it and I was wondering if it was just me doing things wrong. It's good to know that other guys don't have much success with dating apps, and that for a lot of us it is a waste of money. I know there are guys who do well on dating apps, but currently I'm not one of them for a bunch of reasons, and like Courtney said, it'd be better for me to invest my time and money on other things. Also, I'd never pay $500 a month. I ended up spending $160 on Christian Mingle with no dates and one catfishing scam (that thankfully I saw through) and that was more than enough for me to stop paying.
I've seen analysis videos of the data behind dating apps and as a solid 6-7 as a woman you can expect to get between 1000 and 10,000 times more matches than a 6-7 man. The average male user gets a handful of matches per year.
You’re a legend Courtney. We need more women like you.
There's always Emily W. King. /@emilywking/videos
Sarah Dawn Moore. /watch?v=4hOqjrHFdvc
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My mom who was born in 1959 always told me the reason I didn’t get matches was because I wasn’t paying for the app. If it’s free then it must be full of attention seeking girls who don’t wanna date. Ahhh the ignorance…
Here's another big conundrum to this problem. Tinder and other companies are confusing the men that are "alone" many by choice with the men that are "lonely". Big difference.
If they were confusing them they wouldn't be making as much as they are
I can't believe this is an actual thing Tinder is doing. That's wild
I deleted my Tinder last week, went to the bar with my buddies just to hangout (not even to go get girls) I had 3 girls come up to me…go out in the real world and meet girls that way. I’m not planning to marry a girl from a bar of course or get into hookup culture but dating apps are a waste of time in all honesty. I’m an attractive dude and never paid for the apps but I’ve easily went on over 100 dates+ and they have all been horrible. I am far from perfect but I’ve dated since I was 14 and it’s never been this bad. I’ve also had 3 long term relationships between 14 and 27 years old. I will be 30 this month. It’s horrible out there and in all honesty I would suggest for men to just stick to their purpose.
Things that never happened
@@pb25193 look at your profile pic and look at his. Try again lmao.
3 long term relationships in that time span is normal and healthy - which you’d know if any of that was true.
Why are you stringing women along though? Why didn’t you marry one of your “long term relationships”?
The problem is that meeting women or even other men, takes a bit of work. I have met guys, that I personally have to struggle to keep a conversation going. ETA this new aspect of Tinder is a digital variation of the bars that give women free admission and men have to pay.
Hi Courtney, thanks tons for empathizing with our shitty lives.
My childhood traitors favorite method of weaponized hypergamy was to threaten to call the police whenever she didn't get her way. #MeToo . She betrayed her way to the top. Time is not a factor of female loyalty; accountability to consequences is.
I'm single and possibly lonely, but damn, I would MUCH rather be alone and have 500 bucks in my pocket than dish it out to a washed up dating app any day.
I also believe that these dating sites are realizing that the majority of women are only looking for that top 1 or 5% of men who are wealthy since the majority womens preferences want a man who makes higher income.
These people are not lonely nor desperate, they are players who want better "results". Tinder in general doesn't work for the lonely/desperate.
Nah, I'd say most of these guys are the desperate loser types. The players, F boys, and Chads will never pay $500 for some box.
@@jaxonwoods8181wouldn't call lonely men as losers
@@RaZoR7i7 fair and true. Should've specified that this is how women refer to these men, as they judge men without romantic success as being morally deficient and/or inferior.
I agree with everything you said in the video. That money could definitely be used on other things that are a need and way better wants as well. Besides the only sure things are death, dirt and taxes,okay? Other wise it takes work,time and smart efforts. This is what I believe to be true.😊
You know back in the day, like 5-10 years ago before I took a break from online dating, I thought online dating was really bad. Now that I'm single, I've tried reusing em. I'm amazed at how much worse they are. They're built just to take your money
Another dastardly trick all these dating do, is something i call the double ghost.
1. You match and start a conversation
2. After 3 or 4 back and forth replies, things go silent.
3. Tinder blocks your (or her) message from being received. It sends on your end and never gets receieved on her end.
4. This results in both parties believing the other went ghost.
Any way to verify this?
I’ve not had a date in over two years, or anything else, and I’m still not paying for a dating app. I’m on facebook dating, nothing. I’ve tried POF, Tinder, and some others, nothing. Only matches I’ve had are the ones you see at 2am when the lights come on in the bar and you’re like ‘oh HELL NO!!’ Just cause I’m not getting any doesn’t mean I don’t have standards lol.
I know what you are going through. I’ve been on Zoosk for over seven years and I’ve only actually talked to two women. I’ve sent messages but nobody is responding. For a brief time I was also on eHarmony at the same time but again, no responses.
This is insane. The sad part is I understand that there are times when it feels like I can't get any attention from dating apps. BUT that is primarily because I am not patient enough and its just not a good option for most guys. Take that 500 each month and establish healthy habits for long term improvements.
Well, America rarely has third places to meet in person anymore and so many men and women are too busy working to the point of being too exhausted to even try and meet people (welcome to crony-capitalism). The commodification of love under capitalism and hyper-individualism is very real
You are infinitely entertaining. Thanks Courtney. I have never paid for a dating app. I would get maybe 20 women's profiles upon start-up, then 10 the following few days. Then, I'd after that, maybe 5, and that's not even matches. I have tried dating apps for two specific periods of time, and I can't. I took legit pictures, no more than one selfie, well-dressed, one with friends, yada yada. Clever prompt, the whole 9.
I'll tell you what's going on, hard-working me like me are dumping our paychecks into insane rent costs. Rent is no longer reasonable if you live with roommates, and heaven forbid you want to live independently. This was not a problem until around 2016, at least in my experience. At that time, my rent for a single unit in Naples, FL was $550, now, if I want my own apartment in Colorado, I have to dish out $1500/month ON THE LOW END.
My ex and I just moved out of our apartment, and now I live in a van. Good luck finding a kind, good-looking woman when you live in a van. This problem is getting out of control.
"Money for nothing and the chicks for free." The only app required is being a rock star.
Still a great tune
The guitar rift is fantastic in the song
The amount of backlash I can sense tinder will be getting is going to be insane.