Here's a fun fact. I had a 1971 ORANGE half stack. Yes, all original. And matching head and cab... both mint and bought here in the states as an import. And I opened the cabinet once, expecting the Celestions or Faynes... (sp) and to my surprise, eminence square backs!!! Turns out to save money, they were shipped empty, unless someone specified their speaker choice, and loaded with speakers here in the states... and that's what they wound up being!
Picked up an old beat-to-shit SVT810 off the street the other day and it was chock full of these old square-back Eminences, all eight speakers in perfect condition. Sounds thunderous and absolutely gorgeous.
These are in my 1980 Peavey Classic VT. Not sure what is stamped on them but they are the stock Peavey speakers of the era. Great warmth when playing clean. Pretty good for late 70's metal, which is great for me. The really like my Proco Rat and that is most important element for me. Rat is king.
I love 70s Eminence speakers...I swapped one out with the stock Jensen in my Blues Jr. and it sounds awesome. Please don't drive the price up on these! ;)
Back in the 70s and 80s buying speakers wasn't easy. No shops carried new speakers. so these were sold in RadioShack so they were accessible. I never even heard of celestion until I bought an amp that had one in it. A whole different world in the Stone Age.
I had put one of those in my Blackstar club 40, and was just diggin' that same eminence i had recently put in-then you come on with some real Magic out of the same speakers-I am a believer !!!
In 1980 at CBGB's I blew up my front line amp on the opening chord. Had to finish the show with my backup, a Peavey Classic 50 with a pair of the square backs in it. The combination of the speakers pushed to 11 and using the series input on the amp caused a reviewer to refer to my tone as "distorted." (Imagine that, "distorted" guitar at CB's in 1980! The Holy Grail.) Chastened, I took out the baffle, with the speakers (they're still up in the barn, on the baffle and after this I'm going to go see if they still work), put the combo amp on a table saw and cut the head off. Put a bottom board on the top, built a TL806 enclosure for an EVM 12L (Series II) and played through that. The combination of a head that can get really dirty and a speaker that can't, right up to jet engine volume, worked well. And still does.
I could never figure out why fender was using eminence. Probably because they were so cheap. I never liked them. They used them in the silverface amplifiers. Not a great combination. LOL I think they still use them. I guess there better now.
@@guitarocd9984 if you ever look for new speakers for a fender.... the modern Italian Jensens are really nice speakers and like half the price of celestions and eminence. And most of them are the vintage fender voiced stuff
Boy no joke these speakers are pretty damn good! Thanks for the show and tell Johan I have seen these a couple times over the years at flea markets in my area and never even given them a second thought
Hi, Johan! Most I like is the round one, but 78 somewhere is ok too. In the round speaker maybe the sound is more compressed, I don't know. All squared speakers has some Fender soul. Maybe thats a reason, why they are not so "bassy". Have a great weekend! Zigfrid
Vintage speakers arent that expensive to begin with. Vintage amps and cabs cost a lot, but the speakers aren't that pricy. You can pick up a 1980 g12-65 for probably 100-150 bucks. Quite a steal if you ask me. Great video as always Johan, you always deliver the goods.
Heck yeah! I have a Peavey Deuce VT that rocks these square magnets. Never considered running my marshall through them but now I want to. Stick one in your 4010 one day and see how it acts!
i have square backs with sound city stickers that say 'designed and manufactured in the usa by eminence ' , but i read that they were actually made by fane who sent the parts to eminence to assemble.that would make sense for the US market ,but i bought them in england.it wouldnt make financial sense to import eminence speakers all the way from the usa to accompany a cheap british amp like SC. i think they're fane.( they do look slightly different to johans ,not sprayed black and no bump on the back of the magnet .)
Vintage teal blue Jensen p12n alnico speakers from the 1960s best sound I have ever heard coming from a speaker It took me alot of digging to find out why they sound so magical well it turns out the cones are made from silk the only problem is finding one in good shape very rare
I had 4 of the 1976 version. Sold two, still have a pair. Very nice. Still have the 76 Peavey front load 4x12 cab, built like a tank . Now loaded that with high end Celestion's.
i learned guitar on these peavey speakers ..i loved them till i got a jbl d120f and older alnico types - love how the sound shakes the camera..i need to drag these out again and hook em up ;:*).. i put mine in a peavey 4 12 column for PA ..but yeah man - great for stereo also, older klipsch speakers had the square Magnets.. u get more magnet as a square than the rounded ones, more power at lower volume
Also, I found two tiny Oakton speakers in a Silvertone amp that was destroyed, and then two more... all mid 60s alnico 6" speakers... and you already know how those little Silvertone amps sound... I'm building a 20w version with four of those in a 1x12 cab, powered with a Leslie 125 amplifier... the gutsyest 20w amp on the face of the earth!
I have several cts square magnet speakers and they sound fantastic, I have 8", 12" and a few like 5"×7" or something like that. It's been a while since I. Measured them.
Didn't Eminence buy the CTS Line of speakers from the 60s/70s ? They were a major OEM to Fender. They did make some square magnets towards the end. The CTS 10 inch speakers in the Super Reverbs were the best sounding in my opinion.
Great video. Never cared for the square backs though, especially when pushed...they get fuzzy to my ears as oppossed to the grind of a celestion. Kinda like a fuzz pedal vs overdrive. They also are VERY hit or miss on the used market. I went through 9 of them once to restore a 70s ampeg. They sounded fine till you turned up the bass..then flab city from being used and abused.
Yea, they probably took more abuse than any other speaker getting there. Their build quality is great... age and abuse will affect any speaker. I get generic parts off the net in bulk and recone these to great effect.
@@voxpathfinder15r Lucky you! Those puppies are killer... I would consider a 2X12, and a separate 1X12. Very versatile. Use both cabs stacked if you want big sound, or just the 1X12 when practicing or in a small venue. Some players load a 4X12 with only 3 speakers and reserve the empty spot as a "bass port". Sounds good, but is heavy with those massive magnets in play. Let me know what you decide on!
Oren Fisher I was thinking if these speakers don’t have much in the way of bass response, that I would design a 4X12 with bass ports to match these speakers. Just trying to figure out what currently made Eminence is most like these square backs or would complement the most. I was thinking maybe the legend GB128? But they are an 8 ohm speaker, and the squarebacks I gave are 16 ohm.
@@voxpathfinder15r Good call, as long as you have a strong back! This will a be a good match for your square-backs: www.eminence.com/pdf/Cannabis_Rex_16.pdf
Hi John, I have the opportunity to purchase four of these from 1974. I have an existing cab with 2 70’s greenbacks and 2 g12-65’s. In your opinion, how do the eminence compare to the 80’s greenbacks?
Johan I bought a 1965 Fender Super Reverb with 4 x10's that are squareback. It sounds amazing. Any chance Fender was using these back in the mid 60s? Your thoughts? Bob
You are probably looking at the cover on the Alnico magnets. My 69 SR has CTS Alnico speakers. The code on the speaker basket should tell you the brand. 137 = CTS.
You made those speakers sound good. I have the same ones in the same cab, but I haven't been able to bond with them. I always get that tubby low mid thing that I always seem to get with Eminence speakers in general. Did you have to EQ differently than you do with Greenbacks?
They work, no doubt, but none has the classic Jensen highs or Celestion punch and fury. Very subdued by comparison. Way back then they used the dreaded Aluminium former voice coil (I used to repair them), nobody complained because it was the price paid for higher power handling. Later much better sounding Kapton became the Industry Standard.
Would love to hear your views on the whole Gibson debacle. Are you brand agnostic and just gravitate to quality without any attachment or does it pain you to see Gibson slide. Anyway - if you ever decide to play live let us know i bet there are lots of subs willing to make the trip to Sweden. Love this channel to bits. Keep it up Johan !
Glad to hear that my friend. I hope everything works out for gibson, but the most important thing is that the craft of building great Les Pauls lives on.
Guitar ocd and thoughtful i wrote - like in caring what matters most . If it looks like i did not appreciate his answer- well that is certainly not the case.
I had a pair of these Eminence squareback Speakers in an old Peavey classic from the 70s and I used it as a speaker cabinet for my Marshall head and it was the best tone that I've had in years but I sold that classic unfortunately with the speakers in it so...
Not really a fan of the 1978, but I liked the 12820S and 121460... I think the 121460 was easily my favourite, nice roundness to the sound, sweet mids.
Any chance you can do a series where you experiment and cross different things together. Like a bass into a guitar head or unconventional approach to using gear. Cheers!
Sounds like my squarebacks from 82.I have 4 in a marshall slant cab.You stated they are possibly 50 watts.Do you have any proof please?Have you ever seen a classic advertisement of the speakers or know where one is to see for sure these speakers wattage rating?Vid is great and thank you for posting it.
I noticed in the VT series the oldest model had the most cutting tone and had these in them. A friend with a later VTX loves the heavy metal tone his has but it wasn't this. The 78 was my fave
@@JohanSegeborn I use a compressor in my effects loop and it makes my "crappy" SS CRATE GT212 do some pretty wild things with my Special II. Also wire my neck humbucker in parallel for cleans. Cheapest usable rig possible
My Ampeg V4's 4-12" cab had these. So do my Wurlitzer organs. The 60's Wurlitzer and Thomas organs have **Jensen Special design for Thomas Organs** , and **Jensen Special design for Wurlitzer Organs** . **SAVE THE ORGANS 1935-1968!!!!!!!!**
Don’t laugh but some of the oval 9” car speakers are excellent full range speakers, flat from about 100hz to 5khz so perfect for guitar, you just need a dozen of them to take a 100 watt amp. Cheers!
Any great song sounds good through any amp, if it is a good song and a good performance. However feel during the recording part matters. What about that?
Yeah, according to their Website and an essay written by Hartley Peavey himself, Peavey started in the 1970's, just when Celestion started making speakers, a business relationship with Celestion. Those old speakers may say "Peavey" on the back, but sure are made by Celestion.
Thanks Johan for this gear find! Like you I found 3 Carvin Magnalab square back speakers and found a round magnet eminence with a similar cone to install into an empty 4X12 cabinet. Very happy with the results! Here is a video I uploaded of the process here, ua-cam.com/video/7o1vP66mWZs/v-deo.html
The Eminence speakers that came with my 1992 Rivera Stereo amp SUCKED. I finally got a 4x12 cab with Celestions, and it sounded 100 times better. Now I know why they are named as such. They sound celestial.
If they aren't Eminence what are they? Because I've bought a lot of old Peavey amps with those Square Eminence Speakers in them in there definitely made by eminence. Come to think about it I think I've played some old fenders that had those Square Eminence Speakers in them...
Spend the money and get Celestions. I just do not like these speakers at any price. I have a 40 solid state amp with very light weight speakers and they are so sensitive and have so much resolution because of that, and so I can get amazing detail, and I can make them sound great, unlike the sound on this video, which is mostly mud, but more like mud plus bad resonance. These speakers rub me the wrong way badly. I hate the Eminence speaker.
Please stop saying, "eeeehhhhh," and "uuuummm," as you're trying to gather your thoughts. You do it so often! Just pause and don't make any, eeeeeehhh, sound!
Everything on this channel is improvised, Louis, basically done in real time. That’s how I speak IRL, I’m afraid, so that’s what you’ll get. If you prefer something more slick, there are tonnes of well rehearsed infomercials out there.
@@JohanSegeborn my channel is the same. Nothing rehearsed and it's me throwing info at everyone right from the cuff. Trust that I get it, I'm certain when you speak your own native language, you don't do the same. Regardless of language, pausing instead of saying Eeeehhh and uuuuhhhh is just a smoother way of speaking. Try it! Watch your videos, you'll see how distracting it is. Weren't you the one who added, "leave a feedback, good and bad," on your ABOUT section? A good host becomes a BETTER host when they proactively try to do betterwith each new video. Don't change the style, just pause instead of saying, "uuummmm," because in a ten minute video, you'll do it roughly 40 times.
@@EdwardT9 Hahaha! You can improvise on the fly and not say "uuuumm," every fifteen seconds. When you talk, listen to yourself! Let me know how well you flow. Lol. I think everyone should be a good orator, especially when you're communicating on the fly.
Imagine being Johan and being able to control market prices by what you say about certain gear. Must be a great feeling...
Hahaha! ;-)
I don´t know, he only makes them go up :-)
Youre kidding, right?
M. P. Most of the cheap amps he reviewed jumped in price online after his videos on them, so no... I'm not kidding.
Someone bought a set of these I had just because of this video lol.
Here's a fun fact. I had a 1971 ORANGE half stack. Yes, all original. And matching head and cab... both mint and bought here in the states as an import. And I opened the cabinet once, expecting the Celestions or Faynes... (sp) and to my surprise, eminence square backs!!! Turns out to save money, they were shipped empty, unless someone specified their speaker choice, and loaded with speakers here in the states... and that's what they wound up being!
Picked up an old beat-to-shit SVT810 off the street the other day and it was chock full of these old square-back Eminences, all eight speakers in perfect condition. Sounds thunderous and absolutely gorgeous.
These are in my 1980 Peavey Classic VT. Not sure what is stamped on them but they are the stock Peavey speakers of the era. Great warmth when playing clean. Pretty good for late 70's metal, which is great for me. The really like my Proco Rat and that is most important element for me. Rat is king.
Damn that riff at 4:15 gets me high. Sounds phenomenal. Killer comparison as usual. Best riff player on UA-cam. I enjoy your vids so much.
I love 70s Eminence speakers...I swapped one out with the stock Jensen in my Blues Jr. and it sounds awesome. Please don't drive the price up on these! ;)
Way back when they were $10 a piece.
@@guitarocd9984 They actually haven't gone up in price much...usually you can pick them up for around $25-35. $10 each would be great though lol.
Back in the 70s and 80s buying speakers wasn't easy. No shops carried new speakers. so these were sold in RadioShack so they were accessible. I never even heard of celestion until I bought an amp that had one in it. A whole different world in the Stone Age.
:-) Cheers I love em too
You may be on to something here. These speakers have an incredibly authentic vintage tone, like hot 70s summers in the countryside.
Thanks man, glad to hear it
I had put one of those in my Blackstar club 40, and was just diggin' that same eminence i had recently put in-then you come on with some real Magic out of the same speakers-I am a believer !!!
Cheers David!
Luckily for me, I discovered these a few years back and now have a stock pile of them. :) Love these speakers!
I really dig the clean tones that you did at the end.
Thanks Jenifer! Yeah lots of nice overtones
In 1980 at CBGB's I blew up my front line amp on the opening chord. Had to finish the show with my backup, a Peavey Classic 50 with a pair of the square backs in it. The combination of the speakers pushed to 11 and using the series input on the amp caused a reviewer to refer to my tone as "distorted." (Imagine that, "distorted" guitar at CB's in 1980! The Holy Grail.) Chastened, I took out the baffle, with the speakers (they're still up in the barn, on the baffle and after this I'm going to go see if they still work), put the combo amp on a table saw and cut the head off. Put a bottom board on the top, built a TL806 enclosure for an EVM 12L (Series II) and played through that. The combination of a head that can get really dirty and a speaker that can't, right up to jet engine volume, worked well. And still does.
Glad to hear it! Would have loved to have played there myself!
I think the punk bands were shooting for who could have the worst tone. LOL
Great sounding speakers! As I already said in the chat, " they were" cheap until this video! :-D
Thanks Vincenzo! ;-)
@@JohanSegeborn thanks to you! On topic , what do you think about the actual Fender/Eminence speakers?
I could never figure out why fender was using eminence. Probably because they were so cheap. I never liked them. They used them in the silverface amplifiers. Not a great combination. LOL I think they still use them. I guess there better now.
@@guitarocd9984 if you ever look for new speakers for a fender.... the modern Italian Jensens are really nice speakers and like half the price of celestions and eminence. And most of them are the vintage fender voiced stuff
Speakers are the hardest thing to buy. You can't really try them out anywhere. I will look into the Jensens. They've never been on my radar.
That peavey labeled squareback in the top right corner sounded awesome!! Killer riffs as always, Johan!
Thanks Jacob! Glad you like them!
I have an ampeg v4 totally sealed no screws. All finger joined and glued. Wow what a thumper!!
Boy no joke these speakers are pretty damn good! Thanks for the show and tell Johan I have seen these a couple times over the years at flea markets in my area and never even given them a second thought
Cheers Stepvan
just great like them all - the 121 got a real treat ...super tones Johan
Thanks Gerry!
Hi, Johan!
Most I like is the round one, but 78 somewhere is ok too. In the round speaker maybe the sound is more compressed, I don't know. All squared speakers has some Fender soul. Maybe thats a reason, why they are not so "bassy".
Have a great weekend!
Zigfrid
Have a great one you too my friend!
There's magic in your playing, man. I just can't believe the authentic vintage sounds no matter what you play through.
I think back then fender was also exclusively using eminence. Have a good weekend. stay cool.
You too my friend!
They are in by 1972 V.T. Bassman 15" 2x15 cab. Song PHENOMENAL for guitar with matching bassman head
Just picked up a 1980 Peavey 4x12 for $40! Love it, thanks Johan!!!
They look similar to what I blew to pieces in my Ampeg V4 cab. Great sound. Especially just before the smoke.
Hahaha! Cheers ;-)
Sounds super thick. Great riffs as always Mr Johan.
Thanks Joseph, I’m glad to hear that!
aaaaaaaaaaaand there goes Ebay again... ;)
Top quality video! 121460 have that classic round sound that I love!
Cheers man!
Glad to hear that! Cheers!
Vintage speakers arent that expensive to begin with. Vintage amps and cabs cost a lot, but the speakers aren't that pricy. You can pick up a 1980 g12-65 for probably 100-150 bucks. Quite a steal if you ask me. Great video as always Johan, you always deliver the goods.
Thanks Torarin! Yeah G12-65 is another huge bang for the buck
Eminence makes great speakers and I would love to see you cover some new ones. I am a huge fan of them just as I am Celestion.
Heck yeah! I have a Peavey Deuce VT that rocks these square magnets. Never considered running my marshall through them but now I want to. Stick one in your 4010 one day and see how it acts!
That would be interesting indeed
Those Deuces are crazy loud!!! I had the same ones with aluminum caps... but the Deuce COOKED them... reconing them now
Anything you Play Will Rock Everybody Johan whatever it is Keep on Rockin Man Yessssssss
Thanks my friend! Cheers
Always a good sign when the volume is affecting the camera focus haha! 🤘👍
Yeah this was a physical experience
Tone waves propagate via the supermassive particles known to physicists as johanitons. Do they interfere with light? Confirmed.
This will be interesting. I remember those speakers. I will withhold judgment. LOL
Hi! I think you’ll like them :-)
I will remain open-minded. I think we used to buy them at Radio Shack. If I remember correctly.
@@guitarocd9984 I think you may have bought Pyle speakers , which were used in Fenders in the 80s, ( formally Utah) at Radio shack
Ah maybe.
Smoking's tone as usual! God bless and rock on 👏🎸😎
Glad to hear it, Cheers J!
i have square backs with sound city stickers that say 'designed and manufactured in the usa by eminence ' , but i read that they were actually made by fane who sent the parts to eminence to assemble.that would make sense for the US market ,but i bought them in england.it wouldnt make financial sense to import eminence speakers all the way from the usa to accompany a cheap british amp like SC. i think they're fane.( they do look slightly different to johans ,not sprayed black and no bump on the back of the magnet .)
Vintage teal blue Jensen p12n alnico speakers from the 1960s best sound I have ever heard coming from a speaker It took me alot of digging to find out why they sound so magical well it turns out the cones are made from silk the only problem is finding one in good shape very rare
LOUD is always good Johan 😁👍
So true! 🤟😀
cool SG ... cool speakers ... nice experiment ! thank you
I had 4 of the 1976 version. Sold two, still have a pair. Very nice. Still have the 76 Peavey front load 4x12 cab, built like a tank . Now loaded that with high end Celestion's.
Those vintage Peavey 4x12 cabs look really cool. I have never played one though yet
Differences between these and the greenbacks?
I like the way they shave off the end of the icepick in the mids, 2.5kHz area. Maybe not for everything, but a very useful tone.
i learned guitar on these peavey speakers ..i loved them till i got a jbl d120f and older alnico types - love how the sound shakes the camera..i need to drag these out again and hook em up ;:*).. i put mine in a peavey 4 12 column for PA ..but yeah man - great for stereo also, older klipsch speakers had the square Magnets.. u get more magnet as a square than the rounded ones, more power at lower volume
ive got a peavey pa200 with a 210 column with the squarebacks. love it.
Nice! They all sound great bro!! 🎸🎸👍
Thanks man, glad to hear it!
Sounds great !
Thanks Stefan!
Also, I found two tiny Oakton speakers in a Silvertone amp that was destroyed, and then two more... all mid 60s alnico 6" speakers... and you already know how those little Silvertone amps sound... I'm building a 20w version with four of those in a 1x12 cab, powered with a Leslie 125 amplifier... the gutsyest 20w amp on the face of the earth!
I have several cts square magnet speakers and they sound fantastic, I have 8", 12" and a few like 5"×7" or something like that. It's been a while since I. Measured them.
Stephen Bunton i just made same comment lol
Well, I took a picture of some but I can't figure out how to put a picture on here, lol.
Gotta be the same..little square speakers..stamped steel frame...got mine out of a couple organs
Didn't Eminence buy the CTS Line of speakers from the 60s/70s ? They were a major OEM to Fender. They did make some square magnets towards the end. The CTS 10 inch speakers in the Super Reverbs were the best sounding in my opinion.
Great video. Never cared for the square backs though, especially when pushed...they get fuzzy to my ears as oppossed to the grind of a celestion. Kinda like a fuzz pedal vs overdrive. They also are VERY hit or miss on the used market. I went through 9 of them once to restore a 70s ampeg. They sounded fine till you turned up the bass..then flab city from being used and abused.
Thanks!
Yea, they probably took more abuse than any other speaker getting there. Their build quality is great... age and abuse will affect any speaker. I get generic parts off the net in bulk and recone these to great effect.
Also used in Sunn amps and PA speakers. This 12" Eminence has been my favourite vintage speaker for years. Sounds killer in an open-back cabinet.
I just bought 3 of these, you think it’s worth getting a 4th and making an open back 4X12 or is an open back 2X12 good enough?
@@voxpathfinder15r Lucky you! Those puppies are killer...
I would consider a 2X12, and a separate 1X12. Very versatile. Use both cabs stacked if you want big sound, or just the 1X12 when practicing or in a small venue.
Some players load a 4X12 with only 3 speakers and reserve the empty spot as a "bass port". Sounds good, but is heavy with those massive magnets in play.
Let me know what you decide on!
Oren Fisher I was thinking if these speakers don’t have much in the way of bass response, that I would design a 4X12 with bass ports to match these speakers. Just trying to figure out what currently made Eminence is most like these square backs or would complement the most. I was thinking maybe the legend GB128? But they are an 8 ohm speaker, and the squarebacks I gave are 16 ohm.
@@voxpathfinder15r Good call, as long as you have a strong back!
This will a be a good match for your square-backs: www.eminence.com/pdf/Cannabis_Rex_16.pdf
Sounds great, as always. Still waiting on your review of the Celestion Redback! (Or have I missed it?)
Would love to see a comparison of squarebacks vs greenbacks
That can be arranged! :-)
Hi John, I have the opportunity to purchase four of these from 1974. I have an existing cab with 2 70’s greenbacks and 2 g12-65’s. In your opinion, how do the eminence compare to the 80’s greenbacks?
Johan
I bought a 1965 Fender Super Reverb with 4 x10's that are squareback. It sounds amazing. Any chance Fender was using these back in the mid 60s? Your thoughts?
Bob
You are probably looking at the cover on the Alnico magnets. My 69 SR has CTS Alnico speakers. The code on the speaker basket should tell you the brand. 137 = CTS.
The 1978 12820PA Peavey one, sounds the best to my ears.
You made those speakers sound good. I have the same ones in the same cab, but I haven't been able to bond with them. I always get that tubby low mid thing that I always seem to get with Eminence speakers in general. Did you have to EQ differently than you do with Greenbacks?
Eric Ritter go get a throback treble booster with germanium and silicon transistor...takes out the mud
Thanks Eric! No I had basically the same settings, a bit more bass maybe. It worked great with all knobs on 5.
They work, no doubt, but none has the classic Jensen highs or Celestion punch and fury. Very subdued by comparison. Way back then they used the dreaded Aluminium former voice coil (I used to repair them), nobody complained because it was the price paid for higher power handling. Later much better sounding Kapton became the Industry Standard.
Would love to hear your views on the whole Gibson debacle. Are you brand agnostic and just gravitate to quality without any attachment or does it pain you to see Gibson slide. Anyway - if you ever decide to play live let us know i bet there are lots of subs willing to make the trip to Sweden. Love this channel to bits. Keep it up Johan !
Glad to hear that my friend. I hope everything works out for gibson, but the most important thing is that the craft of building great Les Pauls lives on.
Johan that's the best damn answer I've heard in weeks. Good for you.
Johan Segeborn that’s very diplomatic and thoughtful of you. Thanks for answering and have a nice evening.
You think it was just diplomatic King?
Guitar ocd and thoughtful i wrote - like in caring what matters most . If it looks like i did not appreciate his answer- well that is certainly not the case.
It's like somewhere between a celestion and a jensen. To me at least.
I had a pair of these Eminence squareback Speakers in an old Peavey classic from the 70s and I used it as a speaker cabinet for my Marshall head and it was the best tone that I've had in years but I sold that classic unfortunately with the speakers in it so...
Not really a fan of the 1978, but I liked the 12820S and 121460... I think the 121460 was easily my favourite, nice roundness to the sound, sweet mids.
Thanks
Any chance you can do a series where you experiment and cross different things together. Like a bass into a guitar head or unconventional approach to using gear. Cheers!
Hi, I’d be glad to! Cheers
Sounds like my squarebacks from 82.I have 4 in a marshall slant cab.You stated they are possibly 50 watts.Do you have any proof please?Have you ever seen a classic advertisement of the speakers or know where one is to see for sure these speakers wattage rating?Vid is great and thank you for posting it.
Wow. Just wow!
I noticed in the VT series the oldest model had the most cutting tone and had these in them. A friend with a later VTX loves the heavy metal tone his has but it wasn't this. The 78 was my fave
Yeah the scorpion speakers in the VTX series are much darker sounding
@@JohanSegeborn I use a compressor in my effects loop and it makes my "crappy" SS CRATE GT212 do some pretty wild things with my Special II. Also wire my neck humbucker in parallel for cleans. Cheapest usable rig possible
Not quite as defined in the mids as Greenbacks. Great content as always🤙
Thanks David!
Good Morning John
Hi!
0:01 The best bang for you buck is actually right next to you...
6:30 riff was cool,. they all sound blown out,. the peavey sounds the most blown out,.
Thanks Clayton!
Please always say “Let’s Go” with a serious face always. Video feels incomplete :)
Hahaha! ;-)
@@JohanSegeborn luv you johan!....lets go!!
Hey Johan, can do a comparison video between the Bugera 1960 and the Marshall Plexi? Cheers
I have a pair of these
After this video , they are not cheap anymore !!!
There are so many of them so there is a fair chance they’ll stay cheap :-)
I just got a pair of vintage Carvin 4x12's with these great speakers in them for $200. Fucking great.
Congrats! :-)
@@JohanSegeborn It was a great surprise to see these so highly praised by you after such a recent acquisition.
1st 1 is the best! \m/
\m/ Cheers
Hey Johan, have you tried those Tone Tubby 40/40 speakers?
Many people say that they sound like louder Greenbacks.
What's your opinion about them?
Hi, not that on. I’ve tried the red alnico which I loved though. Cheers
There is something about vintage speakers as they age they do tend to sound better.
I think it’s mostly the initial breaking in of about 60 hours that makes them better. Cheers
Anyone know how these compare to old CTS speakers. Eminence grew out of CTS right?
I wonder that too! Cheers
I got 4 of these from the 70s, what wattage are these? I find conflicting results online
What kind of amp did the round back one come out of? Ampeg?
Wtf i have similar speakers in my peavey classic 212 combo
Currently using this combo as my only cabinet
Yeah, that’s where mine came from too!
Are the square backs still available?
My Ampeg V4's 4-12" cab had these. So do my Wurlitzer organs. The 60's Wurlitzer and Thomas organs have **Jensen Special design for Thomas Organs** , and **Jensen Special design for Wurlitzer Organs** . **SAVE THE ORGANS 1935-1968!!!!!!!!**
You ever compare these to old greenbacks? I have a chance to purchase 4 of these eminence speakers from a 1974 V4 cab
Johan have you ever made a DIY cabinet? Maybe from some Swedish oak :D
Not yet! :-)
Would be great for shoegaze tone as well, I think.
Next, we'll be mounting the door panel speakers from a 2004 Volvo S60 in a vintage Marshall cab and drive them with a 1987x.
Hahaha! Those B&W speakers probably sound brutal!
Don’t laugh but some of the oval 9” car speakers are excellent full range speakers, flat from about 100hz to 5khz so perfect for guitar, you just need a dozen of them to take a 100 watt amp. Cheers!
@@EdwardT9 You know he'll do it.
Joe Anderson, I hope so!
@@EdwardT9 some of the cheaper combos of the 60s used 6x9's, seen 'em in some valco made amps and they sound pretty good
Well, they won't be cheap anymore! They sound pretty good tho.
Thanks ;-)
Just aquired a squareback eminence speaker with the number 130095 67-8122. Does anyone know where I can get information on it?
When I google Eminence 130095 I got a lot of results with Acoustic amps. Eminence used to have an info page on these but I couldnt reach it last time
Any great song sounds good through any amp, if it is a good song and a good performance. However feel during the recording part matters. What about that?
These plays where easily especially for distorted big chords strumming
Yeah, according to their Website and an essay written by Hartley Peavey himself, Peavey started in the 1970's, just when Celestion started making speakers, a business relationship with Celestion.
Those old speakers may say "Peavey" on the back, but sure are made by Celestion.
You mean Eminence right? Cheers
Now their 125.00 a piece.
Thanks Johan for this gear find! Like you I found 3 Carvin Magnalab square back speakers and found a round magnet eminence with a similar cone to install into an empty 4X12 cabinet. Very happy with the results! Here is a video I uploaded of the process here, ua-cam.com/video/7o1vP66mWZs/v-deo.html
The cts square backs arent bad either
The Eminence speakers that came with my 1992 Rivera Stereo amp SUCKED. I finally got a 4x12 cab with Celestions, and it sounded 100 times better. Now I know why they are named as such. They sound celestial.
Well they used to be a bargain speaker! ( ha ha jokin)
Cheers man ;-)
How can you crank these amps like that and not get your neighbors angry!?
I’m playing at my rehearsal space. Had I done this at home, I would have been arrested :-)
If anyone is looking for these, I have like 8 of them I’d let go for cheap
121460 is not "square"...
Yeah I only had three square backs, but I assume the 121460 is a successor of some sort
They sucked in the peavey cabinets.
Baffle boards Matter.
They aren't Eminent!
If they aren't Eminence what are they? Because I've bought a lot of old Peavey amps with those Square Eminence Speakers in them in there definitely made by eminence. Come to think about it I think I've played some old fenders that had those Square Eminence Speakers in them...
Spend the money and get Celestions. I just do not like these speakers at any price. I have a 40 solid state amp with very light weight speakers and they are so sensitive and have so much resolution because of that, and so I can get amazing detail, and I can make them sound great, unlike the sound on this video, which is mostly mud, but more like mud plus bad resonance. These speakers rub me the wrong way badly. I hate the Eminence speaker.
The sort of players who visit these gear channels tend to be vintage snobs, but from my experience eminence has actually gotten better over the years
Please stop saying, "eeeehhhhh," and "uuuummm," as you're trying to gather your thoughts. You do it so often! Just pause and don't make any, eeeeeehhh, sound!
Everything on this channel is improvised, Louis, basically done in real time. That’s how I speak IRL, I’m afraid, so that’s what you’ll get. If you prefer something more slick, there are tonnes of well rehearsed infomercials out there.
@@JohanSegeborn my channel is the same. Nothing rehearsed and it's me throwing info at everyone right from the cuff. Trust that I get it, I'm certain when you speak your own native language, you don't do the same. Regardless of language, pausing instead of saying Eeeehhh and uuuuhhhh is just a smoother way of speaking. Try it! Watch your videos, you'll see how distracting it is. Weren't you the one who added, "leave a feedback, good and bad," on your ABOUT section? A good host becomes a BETTER host when they proactively try to do betterwith each new video. Don't change the style, just pause instead of saying, "uuummmm," because in a ten minute video, you'll do it roughly 40 times.
No no no no! Don’t listen to him! The pausing and thinking is you, and it’s great.
@@EdwardT9 Hahaha! You can improvise on the fly and not say "uuuumm," every fifteen seconds. When you talk, listen to yourself! Let me know how well you flow. Lol. I think everyone should be a good orator, especially when you're communicating on the fly.
@@EdwardT9 Aaawwww man! You don't even have a single video or a channel! Hahaha! Trust that it's not hard to avoid saying, "uuuummm." Lol!
muy buen sonido los c t s