I swapped out the speaker in my Stage Right 15W Amp. I took out the Celestron and replaced it with a Yamaha JA-3101 Speaker I removed from a 1980s Harmon Organ. Sounds really good, better than I expected! They are vastly different speaker builds and material.
Love this amp. I was able to sell my stock speaker for $50 and pick up a Celestion G12 Vintage 30 UK made(16 ohm) for only $50. The amp roars like a sweet Marshall now. Hard to beat for $250 all in!
@@jayceburns8246 LOL yeah! The 70/80 is an entry level speaker, the amp IS built to a budget! WHO makes the Hellatone? Well regardless it HAS to be an improvement!
I like to used speakers from old SS amps. You can find celestion speakers in old crates and the like on the cheap. But I wouldn’t spend money on a new expensive speaker for sure and the 70/80 isn’t bad any who.
i liked the stock speaker the best. but it's a good example to show that most of your tone comes from the speaker, before anything else, and then the amp, in itself, then the pickups. the rest you can probably more or less ignore - as long as you've got electronics good enough, and good sustain - bridge, nut. the cable and the pickup height are both more important than these latter things, tone wise, i can't repeat it enough.
I bought a MP 15w, and it's soooo darn good...... All JJ tubes, 70/80 great once broken in... TIPS: Plug a Multi-Effect in the FX loop, and switch AMP sim... Your Monoprice can sound like a Fender, Marshall, Orange! So much fun
I don't think they jacked the price because of one review. There have been many favorable reviews of this amp. Thomann sells the same amp with the Harley Benton brand rather than Stage Right. Prices go up, it's called inflation. This amp was on sale recently for $219. US. $411 CAD. For your Canadian viewers with a small discount it was 212US + taxes + shipping= $412.CAD
I've got the Monoprice amp in front of me looking at it I have the hemp speaker in my right hand they are going to become one and I already know I'm going to love it by the way I use the speaker out on the back into a 4 10 inch PV Bass TNT and it sounds incredible Powers it just fine
It's now $250 for the amp. Its hard to decide which speaker I like. I've always swapped out the stock speakers with Jensens. But my Marshalls came with Celestions which I'm not swapping out. Great playing too by the way.
I put an Eminence Alnico in my Mono Price amp and as you had described, it made eq’ing the amp more reasonable. I have a Cannabis Rex that’s unused at the moment. I’ll have to give it a try. Thanks for the Demo.
I upgraded the tubes and swapped the speaker to a Celestion G12H30. With sale price on the amp, the tubes, and craigslist for the speaker I'm at 260 all in. I LOVE this amp.
Monoprice sold out . . . lots of free shipping returns for amps damaged by UPS. The price increase is more a supply/demand thing. The cabinet is low grade particle board and any bad bumps in transit will rip the dry wall screws out, especially with the heavy speaker. After two returns I just totally repaired the wrecked cabinet. Then one of the pre-amp tubes blew and a tech fixed everything . . . the EL84's were totally out of balance. So, with new tubes (Monoprice paid for new power tubes) and repairs, I got $300 plus labor into this.
The 70-80 has great clean sound. I had to return the unit, damaged in shipping, and the replacement had the A-Type which didn't seem as 'magical' sounding, but is okay. The A-Type is rated 50 watts comparted to the 7-80's 80 watts, and measured to a bass frequency response down to 75hz vs 80hz for the 70-80. I tried a $200 Eminence, but the little amp's cheap board couldn't handle the massive magnet . . . . . . the stock Celestion's sound well matched to the Monoprice Stage Right.
The amp is sweet stock. But I agree with Darrell that overall it has a pretty scooped sound and with the gain turned up tends to get a bit fizzy. i found his original video about the amp after I had already bought mine. He changed the tubes in his before me and I agreed that it didn't sound like much of a difference on that video, but still went on to try for myself with some Tungsol pres and Groove Tube power tubes. It made a pretty big difference - taking away any hint of fizziness and made the sound fuller. I then realized that it still had a bit of the scooped sound and decided to try another speaker. I ordered a Hellatone 25 ceramic and of course one day prior to receiving it I see this video posted. Again the difference doesn't come across as being that great here, but when I put the Hellatone in I got a helluva tone coming out! It is now super fat sounding and no scooped sound and absolutely no shrill treble. I will test it out at my gig on Friday! Looking forward to cranking this bad boy up some! With about a total of $450 (amp + tubes + speaker) this is now a SICK AZZ amp!
It's so easy to replace a speaker in a combo amp or speaker cabinet that even I did it (a month or so ago), in a Jet City Amplification 12S+ ( super inexpensive 1x12). Adding an Eminence Screamin' Eagle was super simple, and took it from "alright" to "amazing" IMO.
The exception is the Laney VC 30 amp combo w/1-12" 70/80 speaker ! I cannot change it for a better speaker because the speaker is the most shallow depth 12" speaker made and others cannot fit in the combo because the power tubes are 1/2" away from the speaker magnet as is stock !
IMO, the WGS delivered the best cleans and widest range of tones. Wasn't super impressed with any at high gain but I prefer a heavier bottom which in something small amps are not known for. Still a great test. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. At one point you mention that you could get pretty good sound out of the seventy 80 with EQ. I wish you had said what EQ you were using. The one thing I find unhelpful about speaker, is that they show all of the EQ at noon. That means you never hear the speakers as good as they can be EQ'd. You only hear the speaker that sounds best without playing with the EQ.
There it is! You're on to something. I thought a bunch about this, and your words are a good conclusion. I'm thinking, now, that all three drivers should be EQed to sound as close to each other as possible, and still sound clean/satisfying. Then you can run all three and see which sounds best. You'd also learn a lot by taking note of how extreme your EQing had to go to pull this off. On another note, I used Sony MDR-7508 monitor earphones, and then my main listening speakers, which are decent. The differences were night and day. Absolutely gotta use some sort of decent headphones to judge these comparisons. Cheers
I live in Canada I just got one 301 delivered. Than,s for your reviews. I have a g12t75 I will put in as I already have it and it looks to be an upgrade after watching spea,er reviews.
Also, you can get 2x12" cabinets at Thonman with Celestion Vintage 30's for about the price of one of those speakers shipped. Sure, it's not as portable, but if you want a bigger (possibly better too), you can plug in the cabinet while still keeping the stock speaker.
I have a pretty high end audio system at home and an HTPC (home theater PC). I bought an amp emulator for 80 bucks and I have a whole selection of amp models at my disposal. Since my audio setup is very good to begin with, I get amazing tones and sounds out of the system!
I'm building a custom Cherry cabinet with four cannabis Rex I'm going to power it with the mark Tremonti PRS tube 15 watt amp The amp is so crispy and sick that I think it will blend with the cannabis Rex speaker great
Thinking about buying the Stage Right 15… I picked up the 5watt model at a local pawn shop and upgraded the speaker to a G8A… It made a big difference in the tone… Might upgrade the tubes as well… Enjoy your gear videos thanks for sharing!
Nice touch Darrell on calling out the profiteering. Part of your original positive review will, after all, be based on the cost. Liked the eminence here but only by a hair over the stock. Would not bother with the WGS at all, at least for this application.
I was expecting to find out I really wanted to change my speaker, but though I really like the alnico speaker's tone, I didn't necessarily prefer it, particularly knowing now much eq-ing I can do on the amp. I don't care if the knob is at 3 o'clock or dimed out, as long as I'm getting the sound I want. Think I'm pretty content with the stock speaker now. Will likely swap out a tube to get a bit more clean headroom, and considering replacing reverb for a 3 spring, but grateful to hear these differences without having to buy the speaker to do so.
As there always tend to be some people who are a bit quick as to their actions, I think one should actually mention that you better disconnect the amp's power plug from the mains before you swap the speaker and/or do anything to the tubes... You never know what kind of mishap might occur during the operation.
Changing speakers is one of the biggest impacts impacts you can have on your tone but you really need to do your home work. There are so many different types you can mix different speakers to get the best of both if you have a two speaker set up and speakers also change as they break in. Not enough players pay attention to their speakers
For me the stock speakers would be great. There is tons of differend speakers, and I bet everyone will find the "one" that they are looking for. WGS has pretty solid versions of differend speakers and I like them alot. In the end I am maybe a very dull guy, but I have found Celestion Vintage 30 to be my "the speaker". It just works! If you play black metal - it works. If you play blues - it works. If you play rock or metal - it works. But great video! Thumbs up and keep on rockin'!
I agree the vintage 30 is the best sounding speaker to my ears and i have 2 one 12" cabinets now ! You can add highs because they sound good and not shrill !
Great demonstration. I really liked the drive tone on the WGS American Vintage. So I just bought one for my 68 Custom Princeton Reverb. I'm going to keep the Celestion speaker, but I'd like to have more options with drive tones.
The Alnico mag speaker stands out right away. It has nice warm sound but pushes the highs. Not an expert but sounds the best to me. In a live band setting, no spectator would know the difference.
The Eminence had the nicest definition of the 3. Sounded the best in my earbuds. It produced the qualities, to me, that you described for the alnico speaker, but if money talks for you, then you will hear it's voice.
Super helpful for this irrepressible tinkerer who will often change things up with guitar and amp electronics or components just to see how it affects tone - call it a bizarre fascination 😜 I would probably be twice the player if I gave away my soldering iron and my screwdriver 😆. . . I have yet to try an alnico speaker, they're probably too aggressive sounding for my heavily-customized 15-Watt Blackheart Handsome Devil head. BUT now that I also have a warm-sounding '68 Princeton Reverb, maybe it's time to revisit!
I had a bugera 5 and gave it away. The monoprice 15 is way better sounding - classic rock in a box. The bugera had a really weird dark and muffled sound. The monoprice 5 is better as far as 5W tube amps, nice clean fenderish tone that breaks up nicely when pushed, great with pedals. My bugera 5 was the first version, not the infinium. I'd sell my marshall dsc40 before I'd think of selling the mono 15. I love the marshall but it's too much for my needs and so damn heavy.
Overall I liked the stock speaker the best. It is neutral allowing you to EQ most different sounds. The AlNiCo Speaker was very mid and high heavy ... not sure, if I would spend that much money for it. The third speaker I did not like at all. It sounded muddy - like some frequency ranges were seriously dampened. Very strange! Not sure, if you can EQ that out to get back a neutral sounding amp.
Cost vs tone is not revelent and a better tone can be priceless and makes a big difference especially with a better speaker ! If Fender would up grade there amps like monoprice did they would be so much better , the Fender blues Jr. plastic input jack all ways breaks and many mods are needed to make that amp gig worthy because it has so many flaws ! Keep it up Monoprice , you could change the ohms on the gain pot so it does not distort so early like gain at 4 with humbuckers !
Definition improves considerably with the speaker upgrade, yeah stock it's not that bad but at the time to became recording... it's quite to reach Heaven with such a budget amp!!!!
Definitely Cannabis Rex has an interesting tone, especially on dirty and lead channels. On a second thought, think it may choke a little bit in a mix, under certain conditions. I would go with Cannabis for rhytm parts and WGS for lead.
Thanks for this interesting demo! I had wondered about this. I did not expect to hear much difference. I was surprised that I consistently preferred the sound of the alnico speaker. It was subtle, and I doubt it would be noticeable when playing with a band. Because the differences are subtle, I would stick with the stock Celestion and use the tone controls to adjust the sound.
I personally liked the Cannabis Rex the best, it sounded the best to my ear, but who knows how different it would be if all were totally broken in and I was in the room. They all sound great though, what a good speaker for an affordable amp like that though!
The more expensive speaker sounds great - but in a solo performer setting. Not sure it is worth it when playing with other people / recording - since the tones that sound so good coming out of the speaker are typically the ones that get EQ'd out in order for the guitar to be heard. The stock speaker is more than enough, imo.
Put in better tubes in and you’ll get better sound out of the Monoprice; at least that’s what I found. Re the test, I like expensive Alnico best, but not worth it for a hack like me.
I hooked up an old Celestine Blue (that I’ve had sitting around for 40 years) to my Monoprice and thought it sounded brilliant. I was somewhat shocked at the improvement.
Interesting suggestion to the companies. Why raised the price because someone in you tube reviewed, demoed and like? Good question, just because people will get the product and the try to take advantage of it. Ridiculous way of doing business. I been looking to get this amp for a while and now is more expensive. Great video by the way.
I actually did this a few times with some 40-50 dollar tube amps. Those were really cheap speakers, like a lot worse than this. In that case i can definitely recommend it
Another way to see it like this: Versitile=sounds good for many applications but not great in any of them.I prefer the Eminence as it provides a creamier tone in my opinion.
The Celeston was doped the others weren't which makes some difference. i thought the CannabisRex had ssssssslighly more resonance? Over all I agree with Donald Parker's post. Not worth the bucks for hardly any differences - unless somebody is a gear head and just can't stop buying MORE STUFF! (As pronounced by George Carlin)
Great video. And there is a question that I always wanted to make, and it is what do you do with all that stuff (pick ups, speakers, etc.) that you don't use?
I actually liked the Stock and the WGS the best. The CR is didnt like, which is weird id been told by a few people that the CR sounded great in this amp. Right now I just have a stock MP15, but i have a Jensen C12K im gonna put in the amp this weekend. Its a speaker ive had for 8 or 9 years so its nice and worn in. Thanks for this video. Anyone have any mods to help get more headroom out of this amp ?
I put a g12h 30 watt 70 Anniversary. Its is amazing. I also tried a Greenback. The g12h was much more open. The tone is huge..I say Alvaro. You are correct. I'd play this amp with any JR. And a few other overpriced ones
Thanks, Darrell. My Princeton Reverb has the Eminence CR in it, and I really like the amp. I was interested in your “how-to” on changing out a speaker. In conversations with Fender, an amp tech, and one or two others, I was led to believe that working on your own amplifier was knocking on Death’s door. Your video instruction showed pulling tubes and removing a speaker to be a safe and easy process. Could you take a minute and explain where the danger lies in working on your own amplifier? T
Do not touch the circuit board or tube pin holes with any tool or fingers , speaker wires are safe with the amp unplugged from the wall 120 volt socket ! The amp has stored voltage in the capacitors long after its unplugged from the wall !
If I’m so broke that I have to buy a $200 tube amp, I can’t really afford a premium speaker. I can’t see putting $300 in that amp. $300 is about half way to a sweet 20 watt Blackstar.
I actually think the stock speaker sounded considerably better in all examples. The amp is definitely voiced to compliment the 70/80! Cool!
I swapped out the speaker in my Stage Right 15W Amp. I took out the Celestron and replaced it with a Yamaha JA-3101 Speaker I removed from a 1980s Harmon Organ. Sounds really good, better than I expected! They are vastly different speaker builds and material.
Love this amp. I was able to sell my stock speaker for $50 and pick up a Celestion G12 Vintage 30 UK made(16 ohm) for only $50. The amp roars like a sweet Marshall now. Hard to beat for $250 all in!
They all sound good but I think I'd be happy with the stock speaker
That speaker is garbage! It DOES sound ok on its own, but once you try it with a better speaker, (in my case Lorantzs & Sammis) there was NO contest!
@Queenfinger GOOD for you!
@@DMSProduktions They should call the Seventy80 a Celestion Lite. I put a Hellatone 25 in mine and it is now a Tone Beast!
@@jayceburns8246 LOL yeah! The 70/80 is an entry level speaker, the amp IS built to a budget! WHO makes the Hellatone? Well regardless it HAS to be an improvement!
I like to used speakers from old SS amps. You can find celestion speakers in old crates and the like on the cheap. But I wouldn’t spend money on a new expensive speaker for sure and the 70/80 isn’t bad any who.
i liked the stock speaker the best. but it's a good example to show that most of your tone comes from the speaker, before anything else, and then the amp, in itself, then the pickups. the rest you can probably more or less ignore - as long as you've got electronics good enough, and good sustain - bridge, nut. the cable and the pickup height are both more important than these latter things, tone wise, i can't repeat it enough.
I bought a MP 15w, and it's soooo darn good...... All JJ tubes, 70/80 great once broken in... TIPS: Plug a Multi-Effect in the FX loop, and switch AMP sim... Your Monoprice can sound like a Fender, Marshall, Orange! So much fun
I liked the Celestion best on the clean tones, and the Eminence for dirty. The expensive one was my least favorite overall.
Same here.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Big BUT, can’t tell what works in a band context/mix, it’s like the Classic Situation: at home it sounds epic…
I don't think they jacked the price because of one review. There have been many favorable reviews of this amp. Thomann sells the same amp with the Harley Benton brand rather than Stage Right. Prices go up, it's called inflation. This amp was on sale recently for $219. US. $411 CAD. For your Canadian viewers with a small discount it was 212US + taxes + shipping= $412.CAD
I've threw an used Greenback in mine. Love this thing now.
I've got the Monoprice amp in front of me looking at it I have the hemp speaker in my right hand they are going to become one and I already know I'm going to love it
by the way I use the speaker out on the back into a 4 10 inch PV Bass TNT and it sounds incredible
Powers it just fine
It's now $250 for the amp. Its hard to decide which speaker I like.
I've always swapped out the stock speakers with Jensens.
But my Marshalls came with Celestions which I'm not swapping out.
Great playing too by the way.
I put an Eminence Alnico in my Mono Price amp and as you had described, it made eq’ing the amp more reasonable. I have a Cannabis Rex that’s unused at the moment. I’ll have to give it a try. Thanks for the Demo.
I think you will find it sounds lifeless compared with other speakers !
I upgraded the tubes and swapped the speaker to a Celestion G12H30. With sale price on the amp, the tubes, and craigslist for the speaker I'm at 260 all in. I LOVE this amp.
Monoprice sold out . . . lots of free shipping returns for amps damaged by UPS. The price increase is more a supply/demand thing. The cabinet is low grade particle board and any bad bumps in transit will rip the dry wall screws out, especially with the heavy speaker. After two returns I just totally repaired the wrecked cabinet. Then one of the pre-amp tubes blew and a tech fixed everything . . . the EL84's were totally out of balance. So, with new tubes (Monoprice paid for new power tubes) and repairs, I got $300 plus labor into this.
The 70-80 has great clean sound. I had to return the unit, damaged in shipping, and the replacement had the A-Type which didn't seem as 'magical' sounding, but is okay. The A-Type is rated 50 watts comparted to the 7-80's 80 watts, and measured to a bass frequency response down to 75hz vs 80hz for the 70-80.
I tried a $200 Eminence, but the little amp's cheap board couldn't handle the massive magnet . . .
. . . the stock Celestion's sound well matched to the Monoprice Stage Right.
The amp is sweet stock. But I agree with Darrell that overall it has a pretty scooped sound and with the gain turned up tends to get a bit fizzy. i found his original video about the amp after I had already bought mine. He changed the tubes in his before me and I agreed that it didn't sound like much of a difference on that video, but still went on to try for myself with some Tungsol pres and Groove Tube power tubes. It made a pretty big difference - taking away any hint of fizziness and made the sound fuller. I then realized that it still had a bit of the scooped sound and decided to try another speaker. I ordered a Hellatone 25 ceramic and of course one day prior to receiving it I see this video posted. Again the difference doesn't come across as being that great here, but when I put the Hellatone in I got a helluva tone coming out! It is now super fat sounding and no scooped sound and absolutely no shrill treble. I will test it out at my gig on Friday! Looking forward to cranking this bad boy up some! With about a total of $450 (amp + tubes + speaker) this is now a SICK AZZ amp!
It's so easy to replace a speaker in a combo amp or speaker cabinet that even I did it (a month or so ago), in a Jet City Amplification 12S+ ( super inexpensive 1x12). Adding an Eminence Screamin' Eagle was super simple, and took it from "alright" to "amazing" IMO.
The exception is the Laney VC 30 amp combo w/1-12" 70/80 speaker !
I cannot change it for a better speaker because the speaker is the most shallow depth 12" speaker made and others cannot fit in the combo because the power tubes are 1/2" away from the speaker magnet as is stock !
The hemp speaker would be good for reagge 🤣
Lmao!😂
And Stoner Rock too.
I wonder what it smells like when the coil fries 😂😂😂
IMO, the WGS delivered the best cleans and widest range of tones. Wasn't super impressed with any at high gain but I prefer a heavier bottom which in something small amps are not known for. Still a great test. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. At one point you mention that you could get pretty good sound out of the seventy 80 with EQ. I wish you had said what EQ you were using. The one thing I find unhelpful about speaker, is that they show all of the EQ at noon. That means you never hear the speakers as good as they can be EQ'd. You only hear the speaker that sounds best without playing with the EQ.
There it is! You're on to something. I thought a bunch about this, and your words are a good conclusion. I'm thinking, now, that all three drivers should be EQed to sound as close to each other as possible, and still sound clean/satisfying. Then you can run all three and see which sounds best. You'd also learn a lot by taking note of how extreme your EQing had to go to pull this off.
On another note, I used Sony MDR-7508 monitor earphones, and then my main listening speakers, which are decent. The differences were night and day. Absolutely gotta use some sort of decent headphones to judge these comparisons. Cheers
I live in Canada I just got one 301 delivered. Than,s for your reviews. I have a g12t75 I will put in as I already have it and it looks to be an upgrade after watching spea,er reviews.
Eminence speaker to my ears and likening definitely
Also, you can get 2x12" cabinets at Thonman with Celestion Vintage 30's for about the price of one of those speakers shipped. Sure, it's not as portable, but if you want a bigger (possibly better too), you can plug in the cabinet while still keeping the stock speaker.
Darrell, I would LOVE to hear the Thomann vintage 2x12 cabinet on your channel! Soli Deo Gloria
Plugging in the extension cab mutes the internal speaker
@@alanswanson7515 Yes it does. And...?
Wish it didn't
@@alanswanson7515 They all do that. It can't function as a combo and a head at the same time.
I have a pretty high end audio system at home and an HTPC (home theater PC). I bought an amp emulator for 80 bucks and I have a whole selection of amp models at my disposal. Since my audio setup is very good to begin with, I get amazing tones and sounds out of the system!
I'm building a custom Cherry cabinet with four cannabis Rex
I'm going to power it with the mark Tremonti PRS tube 15 watt amp
The amp is so crispy and sick that I think it will blend with the cannabis Rex speaker great
Thinking about buying the Stage Right 15… I picked up the 5watt model at a local pawn shop and upgraded the speaker to a G8A… It made a big difference in the tone… Might upgrade the tubes as well… Enjoy your gear videos thanks for sharing!
The 70/80 sounds great for clean sounds and for the price awesome
what we learned.
turn your monoprice amp into a head and use it on various cabinets to make it shine.
Nice touch Darrell on calling out the profiteering. Part of your original positive review will, after all, be based on the cost. Liked the eminence here but only by a hair over the stock. Would not bother with the WGS at all, at least for this application.
I was expecting to find out I really wanted to change my speaker, but though I really like the alnico speaker's tone, I didn't necessarily prefer it, particularly knowing now much eq-ing I can do on the amp. I don't care if the knob is at 3 o'clock or dimed out, as long as I'm getting the sound I want. Think I'm pretty content with the stock speaker now. Will likely swap out a tube to get a bit more clean headroom, and considering replacing reverb for a 3 spring, but grateful to hear these differences without having to buy the speaker to do so.
As there always tend to be some people who are a bit quick as to their actions, I think one should actually mention that you better disconnect the amp's power plug from the mains before you swap the speaker and/or do anything to the tubes... You never know what kind of mishap might occur during the operation.
Changing speakers is one of the biggest impacts impacts you can have on your tone but you really need to do your home work.
There are so many different types you can mix different speakers to get the best of both if you have a two speaker set up and speakers also change as they break in. Not enough players pay attention to their speakers
Fender put that Celestion 70/80 in the separate cabinet version of their Super Champ X2. I had one and it sounded fine. Just gotta break it in.
I like the looks of that Tele Thinline in Natural.
For me the stock speakers would be great. There is tons of differend speakers, and I bet everyone will find the "one" that they are looking for. WGS has pretty solid versions of differend speakers and I like them alot. In the end I am maybe a very dull guy, but I have found Celestion Vintage 30 to be my "the speaker". It just works! If you play black metal - it works. If you play blues - it works. If you play rock or metal - it works.
But great video! Thumbs up and keep on rockin'!
I agree the vintage 30 is the best sounding speaker to my ears and i have 2 one 12" cabinets now !
You can add highs because they sound good and not shrill !
The Eminence could articulate the tones. Thanks for this demo. I'll be changing some of my amp speakers to that.
Great demonstration. I really liked the drive tone on the WGS American Vintage. So I just bought one for my 68 Custom Princeton Reverb. I'm going to keep the Celestion speaker, but I'd like to have more options with drive tones.
The Alnico mag speaker stands out right away. It has nice warm sound but pushes the highs. Not an expert but sounds the best to me. In a live band setting, no spectator would know the difference.
The Eminence had the nicest definition of the 3. Sounded the best in my earbuds. It produced the qualities, to me, that you described for the alnico speaker, but if money talks for you, then you will hear it's voice.
My choice is the WGS Alnico in each test. It's a super speaker!
Great comparison. The Cannabis Rex is a pretty nice swap at $90, but I probably wouldn't do it unless something made me really dislike the Celestion.
Probably have more a difference in sound with a fingerjointed hard pine or furniture grade birch ply cabinet and maybe a different baffle scheme
Warehouse speaker sounded the warmest to my ears. Also had a bit more breakup which added to the character.
Super helpful for this irrepressible tinkerer who will often change things up with guitar and amp electronics or components just to see how it affects tone - call it a bizarre fascination 😜 I would probably be twice the player if I gave away my soldering iron and my screwdriver 😆. . . I have yet to try an alnico speaker, they're probably too aggressive sounding for my heavily-customized 15-Watt Blackheart Handsome Devil head. BUT now that I also have a warm-sounding '68 Princeton Reverb, maybe it's time to revisit!
That alnico really brings it to life imo. Also that amp is 269 now. At that point the bugera v5 would be my pick.
I had a bugera 5 and gave it away. The monoprice 15 is way better sounding - classic rock in a box. The bugera had a really weird dark and muffled sound. The monoprice 5 is better as far as 5W tube amps, nice clean fenderish tone that breaks up nicely when pushed, great with pedals. My bugera 5 was the first version, not the infinium. I'd sell my marshall dsc40 before I'd think of selling the mono 15. I love the marshall but it's too much for my needs and so damn heavy.
Overall I liked the stock speaker the best. It is neutral allowing you to EQ most different sounds. The AlNiCo Speaker was very mid and high heavy ... not sure, if I would spend that much money for it. The third speaker I did not like at all. It sounded muddy - like some frequency ranges were seriously dampened. Very strange! Not sure, if you can EQ that out to get back a neutral sounding amp.
Cost vs tone is not revelent and a better tone can be priceless and makes a big difference especially with a better speaker !
If Fender would up grade there amps like monoprice did they would be so much better , the Fender blues Jr. plastic input jack all ways breaks and many mods are needed to make that amp gig worthy because it has so many flaws !
Keep it up Monoprice , you could change the ohms on the gain pot so it does not distort so early like gain at 4 with humbuckers !
After researching speaker burn-in and verifying that it helps, perhaps we can’t form definitive conclusions until each speaker gets treated.
Definition improves considerably with the speaker upgrade, yeah stock it's not that bad but at the time to became recording... it's quite to reach Heaven with such a budget amp!!!!
Definitely Cannabis Rex has an interesting tone, especially on dirty and lead channels. On a second thought, think it may choke a little bit in a mix, under certain conditions. I would go with Cannabis for rhytm parts and WGS for lead.
I'd be interested to hear a Creamback in that amp. Always like the tone of that speaker when I hear it.
All were nice, the wgs alnico more mid & upper mid guts. Probably everyone's thinking the stock Celestion 70/80 was fine. Any of them are fine.
The stock speaker sounded fine to me. The other two sounded different, but not better.
I'm about to put in a wgs et65 8ohm. Great video as always.👍👍👍
I'm still waiting on a green back, cream back. And even the Rajun Cajun
Thanks for this interesting demo! I had wondered about this. I did not expect to hear much difference. I was surprised that I consistently preferred the sound of the alnico speaker. It was subtle, and I doubt it would be noticeable when playing with a band. Because the differences are subtle, I would stick with the stock Celestion and use the tone controls to adjust the sound.
If you have one of the beginner amps 15W or so, updating the speaker makes a huge difference.
The Celestion doesn't sound too shabby! But, I like the Alnico the best. The CR was too harsh. Just like many ceramic magnets are
I personally liked the Cannabis Rex the best, it sounded the best to my ear, but who knows how different it would be if all were totally broken in and I was in the room. They all sound great though, what a good speaker for an affordable amp like that though!
The more expensive speaker sounds great - but in a solo performer setting. Not sure it is worth it when playing with other people / recording - since the tones that sound so good coming out of the speaker are typically the ones that get EQ'd out in order for the guitar to be heard. The stock speaker is more than enough, imo.
Stock speaker sounds pretty good. The Alnico magnet speaker sounded awesome. The hemp speaker sounded like a cheap crap speaker.
Yes it was lifeless sounding !
They actually jacked up the price because they put EL84s in. They are unlabeled JJs. Plus a few more modifications. That's why they jacked it up.
Put in better tubes in and you’ll get better sound out of the Monoprice; at least that’s what I found. Re the test, I like expensive Alnico best, but not worth it for a hack like me.
10" Jensen MOD in my Frontman25r has me covered :D
I put a Celestion Blue in a stock AC15 and it went from BLAH to GOLD.
I hooked up an old Celestine Blue (that I’ve had sitting around for 40 years) to my Monoprice and thought it sounded brilliant. I was somewhat shocked at the improvement.
@@renodavid that’s really useful info for future reference.
Interesting suggestion to the companies. Why raised the price because someone in you tube reviewed, demoed and like? Good question, just because people will get the product and the try to take advantage of it. Ridiculous way of doing business. I been looking to get this amp for a while and now is more expensive. Great video by the way.
I think they jacked up the price because they upgraded them including the reverb you mentioned.... I read the entire description on their page
I prefer the stock speaker sound
For the distortion, something between the alnico and the hemp would probably sound best to me.
I actually did this a few times with some 40-50 dollar tube amps. Those were really cheap speakers, like a lot worse than this. In that case i can definitely recommend it
the alnico was leagues above in overdriven stages
It figures that I would like the most expensive one!👍😎🎸🎶
You should change the tubes next
I like most the Eminence CR, overdrive is really kikingvit..
Another way to see it like this:
Versitile=sounds good for many applications but not great in any of them.I prefer the Eminence as it provides a creamier tone in my opinion.
The Celeston was doped the others weren't which makes some difference. i thought the CannabisRex had ssssssslighly more resonance? Over all I agree with Donald Parker's post. Not worth the bucks for hardly any differences - unless somebody is a gear head and just can't stop buying MORE STUFF! (As pronounced by George Carlin)
Cannabiss Rex all day long for my tastes followed by the stock speaker and the alnico last.
Kinda liking the Eminence there! Cool vid. Thnx!
Great video. And there is a question that I always wanted to make, and it is what do you do with all that stuff (pick ups, speakers, etc.) that you don't use?
I actually liked the Stock and the WGS the best. The CR is didnt like, which is weird id been told by a few people that the CR sounded great in this amp. Right now I just have a stock MP15, but i have a Jensen C12K im gonna put in the amp this weekend. Its a speaker ive had for 8 or 9 years so its nice and worn in. Thanks for this video. Anyone have any mods to help get more headroom out of this amp ?
You said sennheiser e906 thinking no one would notice.. I noticed😂
For the price the cannibas Rex is solid!
I'm sure that all 3 can be dialed n to find their sweet spots, but in this test I enjoyed the Rex the most :0)
I think this amp would work better with a true british celestion vintage 30
I put a g12h 30 watt 70 Anniversary. Its is amazing. I also tried a Greenback. The g12h was much more open. The tone is huge..I say Alvaro. You are correct. I'd play this amp with any JR. And a few other overpriced ones
Great Job man!
Inflation is the reason for price hike, not youtubers...
Everything is going up and up everyday...
I think Celestion G12H would sound good in that amp.
Did you break the new speakers in? Maybe that’s why a few people in comments thing the original was better? Because the original had been played more.
Personally to my ear, I really like the stock one, I also really don’t like the cannibus Rex
Thanks, Darrell. My Princeton Reverb has the Eminence CR in it, and I really like the amp. I was interested in your “how-to” on changing out a speaker. In conversations with Fender, an amp tech, and one or two others, I was led to believe that working on your own amplifier was knocking on Death’s door. Your video instruction showed pulling tubes and removing a speaker to be a safe and easy process. Could you take a minute and explain where the danger lies in working on your own amplifier? T
Do not touch the circuit board or tube pin holes with any tool or fingers , speaker wires are safe with the amp unplugged from the wall 120 volt socket !
The amp has stored voltage in the capacitors long after its unplugged from the wall !
Best guitar channel!!!
Stock sounds good! I'll just stick to it and just buy a new amp instead of another speaker if I want other tones
Hands down the stock speaker is the best
I want one amp of those, but in Spain there's no distribution and it is really expensive...
The stock speaker is enough, I won't change the speaker.
......and the best way is to SMOKE the hemp........then any speaker sounds better! ;-)
......and the best way is to SMOKE the hemp........then any speaker sounds better! ;-)
......and the best way is to SMOKE the hemp........then any speaker sounds better! ;-)
......and the best way is to SMOKE the hemp........then any speaker sounds better! ;-)
Is it possible to connect the headphone input to a 2 large speakers? Or put a microphone in front of stock speaker
If I’m so broke that I have to buy a $200 tube amp, I can’t really afford a premium speaker.
I can’t see putting $300 in that amp. $300 is about half way to a sweet 20 watt Blackstar.
What size socket did you use on that amp? To get the speaker out and back in?
The alnico sounds best for me.
v30 can be a good choice...
The WGS would be last on my list - pretty much a toss-up between the stock and 'weed' speaker
Where did you buy all the different speakers?