@@CK-wv5hg Fr😭Mf really said “naruto beats naruto in naruto shippuden “ and “looses 2 luffy in boruto Naruto, luffy also solos boruto verse” shits so bias cuz they meatride one piece so much
I wouldn't call it being bias. There is a science behind vs battles that alot of normies don't really understand. You have to take author statements, character statements, and feats into account. With saitama its far more complicated because you have to scale him to literally every single person in his series because of his lack of feats. With goku its far simpler because he has the feats, and the statements to suggest he slaps with no difficulty.
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray August 13, 2020
Literally your right these people are so stupid if they think anyone can even come close to the power of goku he can destroy universe the best feat saitama has shown was jumping from the moon
@@toxicwindow dms kakshi was holding his own against kaguya so I think he stomps any form of madara that isn't 3 rinnegan madara just cuz we never saw what he was capable of
Saitama has never been hurt because the attacks were to weak to hurt him. That's like comparing shooting a tank with a pistol Goku's punch ain't gonna be no pistol
Seth made a video about how Krillin beats Saitama and had great arguments. I'm also pretty sure he'd debunk half of your Naruto & One Piece statements. He's probably the best at powerscaling and debating. Both. An it's not even about which series you like more, it's about pure logic
Yeah but that depends if you like feats or themes more. Scaling by themes saitama should be limitless. Scaling by feats based on the simulation machine child emperor made he should be at least multi versal since hes like 100^365 times planetary
@@smalltrashman4227 He's not only scaling by feats. He's also a debater so he's always looking at the narrative as a whole and author's statements... And Seth's video deals with your exact statement. One just wanted a hero who's been through his journey. He never said he's truly limitless, but only that he broke his limits... and he's not even the only character who did that in opm manga ..
@@pesjp8244 Yeah but like, the philosophy of one punch man has to do with obsession. Crablante was obsessed with crab so he became a crab. Garou was obsessed with monsters so he became one. Saitama was obsessed with becoming someone who could beat anyone with one punch sooooo, you see where I'm going with this? He's also clearly a gag character as his power is comically low at times like when he can't kill a normal fly lol.
The argument that "whats goku going to do that'll hurt saitama. He's never been hurt" isnt a good argument. Saitama has never fought anyon enear as strong as goku. Goku has feats that allow him to destroy UNIVERSES. Goku has literally shook an infite space.
@@phexolani6283 have you guys even watch the show? It's literally stated that he shook the infinite space in ToP arc. LOL It was stated that SSG Goku can already destroy a universe and curently in the manga he's about million times stronger than that in current Ultra Instinct. Just fucking read and pay atention. And give an valid argument if you're gonna make a point. Not just act like a damn stubborn kid with no fact to back up your claims. Jesus christ.
@@pesjp8244 I know aye they don’t know the power of goku he can destroy probably multiverses by the end of super and they think saitama who hasn’t even shown planetary feats can beat goku
Speaking of Goku not always starting fights seriously, that doesn’t mean that he’ll let you hit him, he is a combat genius and a master in martial arts, also idk if he’d let his gaurd down or be too unserious because you also know that Goku can read the power level of other people so he’d just read Saitama’s power level and know how serious he should start before they even fight.
On top of that his approach to the fight depends on the opponents personality too He starts fights a lot more serious against people who are blatantly evil
@@jay._04 what upper hand are you talking about The difference between base goku and saitama in power and speed is literally trillions (Obviously way way more)lmao Saitama is not even as strong as even the weakest characters in db
Goku has only died twice, but people seem to forget that every time goku died he sacrificed himself. He sacrificed himself against Raditz and Cell, no one has purposely killed goku at all
@@DeeMulaah how is it bullshit writing when hit stopped his heart goku couldn't find where to fire his ki blast so he blasted in the air so it would come back down and restart his heart. If it was any other main character in a show you'd call it genius
@@tsunamisaahir1532 Alright let me rephrase myself because that was the wrong term to use I should've said I felt it was kind of a silly way to handle that Shooting a ki blast at someone had never been shown to aid them (to my knowledge) unless they absorbed it Seems like something they came up with only for that particular situation that they created but then again Hit would be an exception to the rule kind of case And no, I would've still had the same thoughts if it was any other character I love my shows but I'm not above admitting when I think something is silly
@@DeeMulaah I mean but why would it be silly? Just because you've never seen a ki blast be used like that in the show before doesn't mean they couldn't use it like that before. I mean all it was used to do was give him a big enough shock to jump start his heart like a defibrillator, it's not like it healed him you know
@@tsunamisaahir1532 It's silly because this is a series that has been out for 3 decades going on 4 and they're just now choosing to showcase that huh? Pretty hard to believe I'm more likely to believe they just needed a way for him to come back so that's what they came up with
Literally bro One Punch fan be tripping just because the name. This dude Goku created a mini universe essentially first time going MUI and dude says Saitama can still win like wtf how?
@@saltmayo178 As I said "essentially", but to correct myself he created an aura that projected the image of a galaxy. No it didn't have any planetary bodies or anything but in size and scope it was essentially a galaxy. Y'all OPM be toxic on god.
Let's not forget that goku is also a master marital artist so on top of the fact that goku has a lot more powerful feats he knows martial arts as well and was trained by several human masters and God's whereas Saitama only relies on his power and has almost no martial arts training so even if goku and Saitama were equal goku would still body him through skill alone.
Facts don’t forget that although Goku is kinda dumb or doesn’t seem that smart outside of battle, in battle he is a genius and is always thinking of ways to outsmart his opponent
@@iwasthefirstnotabot exactly this puts Goku in the 4D tier easily which is usually above universal by default while grand priest (& his kids) is EVEN MORE impressive creating an entire universe and matter manipulation etc puts them on 5D scale easily and Zeno is hyperversal I don't think theese guys know about power scaling lol 😂💯
Honestly the dumbest thing they said in this video might be that they implied supersonic speed was fast enough to travel to another solar system in a minute.
I think you guys should watch one of seth’s videos where he actually presents and explains feats of the characters and scales them in a versus battle. Seth’s krillin vs opm video is a good one to watch.
He has watched Seth's videos and doesn't agree with scaling according to author, or databook statements, he usually turns seth off saying that he doesn't get it
Here's a simpler explain to Seth's explanation so your friend can understand it Saitama enemy is like a small chicken Goku enemy is like a nuclear bomb shooting machine A man could easily kill a chicken with one punch and that chicken couldn't do shit to him But that doesn't mean he can survive a nuclear bomb
Seth explained thoroughly how versus battles work, and Keem/AMG still didn’t get it. How can they be this unintelligent? I will explain this as thoroughly as I possibly can, so they can understand this, and if you see this LeloucheViBri show it to them. As explained during the video Saitama is not a gag character, he isn’t invincible, and won’t win every fight. In the video it was explained that multiple characters who the strongest of which were multi-continental/planetary were able to take attacks from Saitama, and survive despite it being his intent to kill them in that instant. Goku is universal in the Battle of Gods Arc of Super in which he fought Beerus with him absorbing it into his base form afterwards. Goku would go on to have many of fights afterwards becoming thousands of times stronger, and having speeds that are massively faster than light. (Thank God AMG/Keem understood that much) Despite us not seeing Saitama not being damaged by planetary attacks it doesn’t matter. Saitama had never survived attacks from someone as strong as Goku, and until he shows he can we assume that he can’t. Based on that logic Goku is able to damage Saitama, and defeat him without Saitama being able to do the same to Goku. Especially since Saitama has failed to kill people who are planetary, or weaker despite him intending to. Even if he could damage Goku he’d still be to slow to actually hit him while Goku can OHKO Saitama. This is the response to Keem’s question. Goku would kill/beat Saitama with any attack he chooses to hit him with. In a versus battle all combatants are only scaled based off what they’ve been shown doing, or by upscaling them to via another character’s strength. This is irrelevant though since Saitama since he’s the strongest character in his own anime. You can’t have Saitama win a versus battle based off of a level strength he has yet to exert, or tank attacks with a level of durability he has yet to exhibit. That’s the point Seth was trying to explain at the beginning of the video. I hope this helps everyone learn how versus battles work. I hope it also gets y’all to except why we say Naruto/Sasuke solo One Piece.
@@LelouchViBri_ That’s the thing though. Hax can bypass certain things but it’s only a single piece of the equation. If Naruto is universal/solar system level he can’t be harmed by someone who is only multi-continental. (Which Naruto is universal by scaling to Momoshiki)
16:05 they didn’t send Goku away cause he was too strong, it’s cause he was too weak. They specifically sent him to Earth cause it was the only unknown planet with people who had weak power levels. Bardock also did it cause he was afraid that his prediction of Frieza killing the saiyans would come to pass. They only went to earth when they found out Raditz died and they had dragonballs. Trying to recruit Goku to join them in taking down Frieza was an added bonus, not the main goal of their quest.
No, they did not send him away "cause he was too weak". (depending on witch origin story you like more it is as follows) The new one, Bardock and Gine send him away on a whim to maybe save his life from falling to the same fate as every other Saiyan on planet Vegeta, with the promise of coming to get him if they were wrong. They also choose Earth because the inhabitants were weak and therefore Goku would be safe, which worked. OR the origional story, the Frieza Force/Saiyans on planet Vegeta send Goku to earth to conquer it himself right before planet Vegeta blows up and other than Raditz all record of Goku is gone. Bardock had nothing to do with it in this one, they were sending Goku there to take and sell earth because Earth was weak, that's it. In both scenario's Earth was also not "unknown", it was low value and far away, which matters because Frieza makes his whole business and is able to have his "Frieza Force" from conquering and selling planets to the highest bidder. Radditz went to earth to recruit Goku to help them conquer planets for Frieza, and I believe they intended on selling earth too, but Goku mentions the dragon balls to Raditz and obviously resists. Now Vegeta wants to go straight to Earth to get the dragon balls and become immortal so he can kill Frieza. thinking that the two strongest fighters on Earth were barely able to stand up to Raditz, are not a threat and that it will be easy.
@@benny720p bro did you even watch the video they are reacting to? Saying Saitama is a gag character is disrespectful to the story being told in OPM. the story after a few chapters gets WAY too dark and serious for it to be a gag story, it just isnt. the author never once called a gag,.
@@bennogb5069 people call opm a gag character because it has comedy in it when the dragonball manga started as a comedy action manga and goku did actual gag character stuff like breaking manga panels. Just because a story has comedy doesn't make it a gag series I'm glad u see that unlike tons of people.
This dude said saitama has never been hurt, boros kicked him to space n he was all scratched up, i say that because that means he CAN take damage, so imagine what Goku will do to him if he was to kick him, also saitama got caught by Boros, Goku is a million times faster than Boros, i hope Saitama can keep up
I’m not saying saitama washes goku or anything but don’t be adding misinfo to the conversation. This was a mistranslation some dude made to hype up the chapter, saitama was covered in dirt/debris, he wasn’t scratched.
do you know what the difference between planetary, star, solar system, galaxy and universal level are?! especially planetary and universal? ridiculous, almost infinite in scale. saitama in manga states that he's felt boros' hits and you can literally see he's been scratched, meaning he CAN be hurt. and boros is a JOKE compared to early DBZ. DBS is infinitely beyond that. you guys are a bunch of clown who have no idea what you're talking about. just knowing the series, loving it and watching it doesn't mean you know shet about powerscaling. if seth debated you guys, he'd literally make a joke out of you. your arguments are hilarious, when you even have any. but I'll give you that you're entertaining and I like you for that.
What level of universal are we using - uni, high uni, uni+, low multi? Just universal by itself is quantified by our own observable universe so I wouldn’t say uni scales infinitely higher than planetary.
Exactly, Goku's power level was 2 at birth. If you want a comparison, Broly's at birth fluctuated between 920 and 10,000. In fact, the farmer with a shotgun that Raditz killed at the beginning of Dragon Ball Z had a power level of 5. Saiyans class levels are assigned based on power level at birth and Goku is considered a low class Saiyan because of that, while Prince Vegeta is an elite Saiyan. King Vegeta wasn't worrying about Goku who was a low class Saiyan. He was a lot more worried about Broly who was an anomaly because his power level was a lot more than Prince Vegeta's (even though it's never specified, it's a lot less than Broly's 10,000 and a lot more than Goku's measly 2) who is supposed to be Saiyan royalty. That is why Broly was banished from Planet Vegeta and sent to Vampa. Goku on the other hand was sent to Earth by both Bardock and Gine (his parents) 2-5 years later because Bardock had a feeling that Frieza was going to kill the Saiyan race when he called back all Saiyans to Planet Vegeta. The reason Goku's escape from Planet Vegeta's destruction was successful was because Goku's power level was too low to be of significance to the Frieza Force's scouters.
I'ma keep it a stack all Goku has to do hit something real hard and he can potentially destroy one punch man's whole universe with ONE PUNCH the irony is too real but facts tho 🤷🏾♂️😭😭
@@alexism9656 let me put it like this, if a character can tanked a ki blast that could destroy a planet or solar system and then gets heavily affected by a punch, what is that telling you? Some punches have way more force than some ki blast.
@@howtomakemoneyonlinewebtra8710 We actually hardly see Dragon Ball characters get attacked by planet destroying blasts if you think about it. Most of the time they only leave craters. There's probably few times characters got hit by a planet buster because they are usually not allowed.
@@alexism9656 that due to ki control, it's been stated multiple times. We've seen enemies and heroes attacks getting deflected and tanked numerous times after putting their heart and soul into the blast mean planet casually destroyed by the flick of the wrist. (First form freeze, buu, golden freeza just by touching the ground and releasing energy so fast into it vegeta couldn't even react.
Guys don't forget that goku has way more experience than saitama: 1. Because saitama only one punch people so he doesn't know how to fight a long battle 2. Goku has fought more life threatening fights,so he is more intelligent in the battlefield 3. In dragonball it's stated than saiyans have unlimited potential to grow and they grow as the fight goes on
@@LelouchViBri_ You werent so bad with it, it's when you all start talking and debating, the video just plays in the background unnoticed, then you'll listen to it for three more seconds and then go back to debating and not listening
Saitama:"i can destroy planet with my fist" Goku:"awww thats cute...i can destroy universe just using in my base form now after i adapted my own super saiyan god power....my base form is even stronger then blue!!!!"
@@LelouchViBri_ Shid we know more than yall A _LOT_ more💀 Edit: I still rock with ya channel though, yall some funny guys, just a lil friendly shit talking that's all😂
Oh god if I was over there Keem would have no chance debating me🤣🤣. Mans keep saying “he never got hurt”. Those attacks from all his enemies were nothing but city to planet surface level attacks.
Goku’s speed tops saitama by a huge margin, when people say goku moves instantly, it’s not an exaggeration on how fast he is, it’s literally instant, faster than light itself which is the fastest measurement of speed and time we have to date, when you turn on your light switch it’s comes in really fast but isn’t instant, you can see the room lighting up before it actually does, everybody who reads this, test this in your room by turning your light on over and over to see how fast it turns on but not instantly
Goku's speed It's not instant. He's simply fast. There're dozens of characters in fiction that are way faster than light but that doesn't make them instant.
The literal creator has stated saitama is just a character living in a world where no one can challenge him,he never stated he was a gag character like your boys say 😂😂.
Finally you did the right thing by showing them seth cause he does a lot research into his videos and he gives you the idea and how much really a characters is powerful compare to the other
Goku soloing most of fiction is a huge stretch...like there's shit out there like Marvel and DC comics, the SCP verse, Lovecraftian mythos, The Deathstalker sci-fi book series, etc. that are on a whole other level from Dragonball, but he's definitely soloing a bunch of animes lol.
First of all saitama never died because the enemies that he face are literally weak and trash compared to the enemies that goku face. Goku literally fights gods who destroy planets and galaxies for fun. Meanwhile saitama biggest feat was a planet buster. Let’s look at it this way: If goku was in saitama’a universe, goku would literally destroy everything with one punch. But if we put saitama in goku’s universe😂 saitama wouldn’t survive for a day. First we have saiyans who are literally overpowered and they get stronger whenever there pushed to there limits. Next we have zeno who literally destroys universes with an on and off button. Then we have the angels who can literally rewind time and there always in ultra instinct. Then we have the grand priest who is the strongest fighter in all the universes. Then we have God’s Of destruction, who literally destroy planets on the daily basis. Every fighter in dragon ball can destroy a planet, even piccolo who is a side character destroyed the moon with a ki blast. Then we go to saitama’s universe and what does goku go up against in saitamas universe, MONSTERS😂. It’s already obvious who’s stronger, and keep in mind goku and berrus almost destroyed an entire universe by ACCIDENT. Goku has always been strong since he was a kid. He almost destroyed earth by powering up to SSj3😂, goku is overpowered and broken. Goku wouldn’t even need to turn into SSj to completely annihilate saitama, because ever since goku attained SSj god, goku is now at god level at wherever form he is in. So base form goku is still god level goku. And let’s not forget that goku literally plays with his enemies, whenever Goku fights someone, he goes from SSj, to ssj 2, ssj3, ssj god, SSj blue. He try’s to see how strong his enemy is and if your below SSj blue, he’s going to play with you.
shout out to watching a seth the programmer power scale when i recommended it earlier. idc what anyone says in the comments, when it comes to content creators you put in work.
I don't think anybody has an issue as far as content creator it's more like the crap power scaling and wild statements which at this point I think it's done on purpose for views
@@roxas13keyblade65 the problem is the lack of attention span just pay attention to when Seth mentions the references to other series at the start and points out the attack on titan reference 2 different people say that's not attack on titan that's one punch man. Obviously that's the point of what seth said if you're watching something with intent of learning or debating pay attention the video can be paused for a reason.
Goku been training for years man it’s not even shocking he achieved godly power in 30 years that took the actual gods millions to achieve and he even passed them and went on to get a angelic power in only 45 mins with out the proper training
"He's never been hurt" he's never fought anyone that could destroy universes with his punches, the most he's fought is people that can destroy a planet's surface
No, not really. Since Kid Goku possible moon level (Cause he is stronger than Demon King Piccolo) during the Raditz fight, Raditz is most definitely planet Level. Boros is Star Level so at least Saitama could stand up to Jeice or Burter lmao
How to easily debunk those Saitama fanboys: Saitama said his fight with Boros “almost a real fight” BASE Goku would kick Boros into the sun and it wouldn’t even be a warmup.
Keem is delusional goku is way beyond any god in saitama universe even saitama himself. They are only on earth never went beyond the planet an not even planetary that's at least kami or king piccolo level early db. Goku has been surpassed gods on earth an proceeded thru the difference levels of gods throughout the universe's. It's not even a debate tbh. As the man said saitama is at his max already and it's nothing compared to gokus early feats. Saitama would get cleaned by krillin or yamacha them boys planetary an take planetary punches to the lip repeatedly don't get it fucked up lol.
Goku: Low-Mid Multi-versal Saitama: Planetary++ to Star lvl at the most. It's simple, Saitama can only compete with a few Namek Saga characters & everything after tht washes him badly.
Ah yes so of I have a rrgular human character in a boxing anime called "The Unstoppable Man" who's never been hurt in a match before by keems logic he beats goku because he's called the Unstoppable Man and he's never been stopped or hurt
This is just sad to watch tbh. Yall need to spend less time making up your own head Canon and listen to seth cause he knows way more about this shit than any of yall.
When you realize every one punch man villain is basically raditz level...and saitama had to put in SOME effort using his “serious punch” Base Goku mops him.
@@alitasleemsheikhmohammad5754 Raditz busts planets... even a weaker piccolo busts the moon casually. Garou and boros haven’t shown anything above planetary and saitama has to put in effort. Meanwhile Jiren can literally look at universal characters and beat them. Unless one of these have done more than planetary? Let me know
Nah wrong Almost all the enemies that saitama has fought are not even OG db roshi lol Even boros is like surface to plenat level Witch is barley above that roshi
Also saitama isn’t a gag character if y’all were listening thays what Seth was explaining also him saying “ he’s never been hurt before” doesent matter because he’s never been hit by somebody as strong as goku
When it comes down to it, we haven't seen a feat from Saitama yet that would suggest he can destroy the solar system. That doesn't mean he CANT, as we haven't seen Saitama really be tested against an equal opponent yet. We just dont know. We do definitely know that dragon ball characters have been able to destroy the solar system since the Cell saga though.
That is exactly people can't say shit like he can defeat goku. That is like saying a school football team that wins every match will beat a world class team that has lost before. Or a car that has won every street race will beat an F1 racing car.
They all forgot that saitama wouldn't start serious either. He only brings out that punch when he thinks the other person would survive it, but until he sees goku take a bunch of his hits he wouldn't take it seriously either
Subbed fam I fucking love this channel and anime equally. We gotta Collab and talk anime bro💯👌🏾 I can do that shit all day especially over Dragonball 😂
Again a reminder for u 4 gents u need the attack potency of your enemies durability to damage them for goku's cause u need to be at least universal to do some sort of damage if your attack is only planetary lvl,star lvl,solor system lvl,galaxy lvl u won't scratch goku not at all
Ima just drop this hint here. Goku fought frieza for 5 minutes during the planet namek saga. The whole fight was minutes in real time. During the cell games the announcer which was a regular human couldn't see goku and cell clash they appeared invisible to him and Hercule. The stronger you get in dragonball the faster you become as well. Saitama wouldn't even see goku coming. My man's goku is faster than light itself. Even at base form, goku would treat him as child's play.
The Frieza "5 minutes" isn't used as speed feats and is more so seen as Frieza being horrible with his processing of time. Saitama is also faster than light.
@@CK-wv5hg the fight was actually five minutes. If you fast forward the whole fight it equals up to five minutes fam. The whole fight was drawn out to make it look longer than it really was but the fight was really 5 minutes. Saitama aint faster than light yet fam.
@@AugusteTheGreat It doesn't really matter if it was 5mins sped up since that's not how you would watch it anyway. Like I said, it's debatable whether Freiza's 5mins were accurate in the first place. Saitama is faster than characters who are stated faster than light and has statements that heavily imply Lightspeed is a joke to him.
@@CK-wv5hg well for starters you can read the official dragonball guide to see how long the fight was. The author said the planet blows up in 5 minutes and purposely drew out the entire fight for cinematic effects. You can look at all the dragonball fights where the characters even state that the fighters are moving so fast they can barely keep up. Saitama lightspeed feats....1. Where he jumped from the moon to earth in 3 seconds. That aint lightspeed goku travels from earth to king kais planet in 3 seconds. 2. The fast movement afterimage mirage move he did where he seemed to have many copies at one time. That aint lightspeed my boy lol
@@AugusteTheGreat them fighting for 5 minutes is not a speed feat clown.., they just slowed down and capped time on the series just for the fight to be drawn out, they dont talk for 5 minutes and go back and forth
Watch Seth video saying krillin would beat saitama he debunks him being a gag character because u know gag characters defy physics which saitama never done
This guy needs to get how u gonna one punch someone if u cant touch them and saitama never been hurt cause he fights week villans compared to dragon ball mans full of excuses 😭
What are the names of the guy in blue, the guy in the gray sweat shirt with the backwards cap and the guy in the dark gray sweat shit with the forwards cap? I'v eseen them in a ton of videos but I've yet to hear their names
Like How Spider-Man holds back his punches because he’s kill every human he fights with a hit Goku holds back so he doesn’t destroy the shit around him
Ok which one of those people are in Goku’s level or any god of destruction so way are you being up the fact that he hasn’t gotten hurt by people who are FAR under goku not even in the same dimension
10:24 i feel like when their talking about one punch man their just talking about visuals if dragon ball shows goku destroying universes everytime they probably believe he could beat saitama rather then listening to the factual power of the two not knowing that saitama is planetary level while goku is beyond universe level
"He's never been hurt before"
Wait till he meets krillen lol
Saibaman enough
Lol
Yamcha who?
Nah yajarobi they overrated this man
@@IFGB77 funny that you mention him
I can easily proof he is around saitama level/being able to one shot boros as well lmao😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When it comes to power-scaling I can’t take any of your friends serious because they are clearly bias.
He's no less bias to be honest. Look at his one piece statements.
@@CK-wv5hg Fr😭Mf really said “naruto beats naruto in naruto shippuden “ and “looses 2 luffy in boruto Naruto, luffy also solos boruto verse” shits so bias cuz they meatride one piece so much
I wouldn't call it being bias. There is a science behind vs battles that alot of normies don't really understand. You have to take author statements, character statements, and feats into account. With saitama its far more complicated because you have to scale him to literally every single person in his series because of his lack of feats. With goku its far simpler because he has the feats, and the statements to suggest he slaps with no difficulty.
@@ixprophecy if you watch his lives he literally says certain boruto characters solo
Bias and dumb lol
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray August 13, 2020
I guess I've done the near impossible
@@toxicwindow that's why it's "near" impossible 👌
Literally your right these people are so stupid if they think anyone can even come close to the power of goku he can destroy universe the best feat saitama has shown was jumping from the moon
@@akarts2426 I was thinking more along the lines of DMS Kakashi stomping Madara but yeah
@@toxicwindow dms kakshi was holding his own against kaguya so I think he stomps any form of madara that isn't 3 rinnegan madara just cuz we never saw what he was capable of
Saitama has never been hurt because the attacks were to weak to hurt him. That's like comparing shooting a tank with a pistol Goku's punch ain't gonna be no pistol
Fax Goku had felt and felt punches nearly as strong as destroying a planet
@@nowabugale5951 you mean destroying a universe
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@@TNTboyz1997 and possibly multiple universes 😂 I don’t under the comparison here when it was proven one punch man isn’t beating krillin
@@ImJusSha trust me deluded people the ppl sataima fights are town lvl a saiba man would be a s class villain in his verse
“He’s never been hurt before!” Hm. No limits fallacy. Sounds about right.
Every opm fan:
@@galactica1419 I'm a fan of opm, but he stands no chance against goku
@@christheanimeguy6114 nope I'm a db fan but I would definitely agree that Saitama would over power Goku...
@@jay._04 what argument could you possibly have about saitama beating goku that hasn’t been disproved already😂
@@jay._04 OK then name feats
Seth made a video about how Krillin beats Saitama and had great arguments. I'm also pretty sure he'd debunk half of your Naruto & One Piece statements. He's probably the best at powerscaling and debating. Both. An it's not even about which series you like more, it's about pure logic
Yeah but that depends if you like feats or themes more. Scaling by themes saitama should be limitless. Scaling by feats based on the simulation machine child emperor made he should be at least multi versal since hes like 100^365 times planetary
@@smalltrashman4227 He's not only scaling by feats. He's also a debater so he's always looking at the narrative as a whole and author's statements... And Seth's video deals with your exact statement. One just wanted a hero who's been through his journey. He never said he's truly limitless, but only that he broke his limits... and he's not even the only character who did that in opm manga ..
Facts he’s not 100% correct but I believe he is more than the majority of not everyone
@@pesjp8244 Yeah but like, the philosophy of one punch man has to do with obsession. Crablante was obsessed with crab so he became a crab. Garou was obsessed with monsters so he became one. Saitama was obsessed with becoming someone who could beat anyone with one punch sooooo, you see where I'm going with this? He's also clearly a gag character as his power is comically low at times like when he can't kill a normal fly lol.
Seth is a quack.
The argument that "whats goku going to do that'll hurt saitama. He's never been hurt" isnt a good argument. Saitama has never fought anyon enear as strong as goku. Goku has feats that allow him to destroy UNIVERSES. Goku has literally shook an infite space.
I don’t understand how people can say that shit seriously
@@grizz8217 nah Bru I be thinking they be trolling 😂 ain't no way there be serious but this dude here I thing he is not right in the head 😐
@@phexolani6283 have you guys even watch the show? It's literally stated that he shook the infinite space in ToP arc. LOL
It was stated that SSG Goku can already destroy a universe and curently in the manga he's about million times stronger than that in current Ultra Instinct. Just fucking read and pay atention. And give an valid argument if you're gonna make a point. Not just act like a damn stubborn kid with no fact to back up your claims. Jesus christ.
@@pesjp8244 I know aye they don’t know the power of goku he can destroy probably multiverses by the end of super and they think saitama who hasn’t even shown planetary feats can beat goku
sonic claps goku
Speaking of Goku not always starting fights seriously, that doesn’t mean that he’ll let you hit him, he is a combat genius and a master in martial arts, also idk if he’d let his gaurd down or be too unserious because you also know that Goku can read the power level of other people so he’d just read Saitama’s power level and know how serious he should start before they even fight.
On top of that his approach to the fight depends on the opponents personality too
He starts fights a lot more serious against people who are blatantly evil
And that's where Saitama gets the upper hand...
@@jay._04 wdym he literally said he’d read sataima’s PL
@@jay._04 what upper hand are you talking about
The difference between base goku and saitama in power and speed is literally trillions (Obviously way way more)lmao
Saitama is not even as strong as even the weakest characters in db
@@bapponoflacko Saitama is stronger than the weakest characters in db just not anyone from the main cast.
Goku has only died twice, but people seem to forget that every time goku died he sacrificed himself. He sacrificed himself against Raditz and Cell, no one has purposely killed goku at all
I mean Hit killed him but bullshit writing allowed him to revive himself lol
@@DeeMulaah how is it bullshit writing when hit stopped his heart goku couldn't find where to fire his ki blast so he blasted in the air so it would come back down and restart his heart. If it was any other main character in a show you'd call it genius
@@tsunamisaahir1532 Alright let me rephrase myself because that was the wrong term to use
I should've said I felt it was kind of a silly way to handle that
Shooting a ki blast at someone had never been shown to aid them (to my knowledge) unless they absorbed it
Seems like something they came up with only for that particular situation that they created but then again Hit would be an exception to the rule kind of case
And no, I would've still had the same thoughts if it was any other character
I love my shows but I'm not above admitting when I think something is silly
@@DeeMulaah I mean but why would it be silly? Just because you've never seen a ki blast be used like that in the show before doesn't mean they couldn't use it like that before. I mean all it was used to do was give him a big enough shock to jump start his heart like a defibrillator, it's not like it healed him you know
@@tsunamisaahir1532 It's silly because this is a series that has been out for 3 decades going on 4 and they're just now choosing to showcase that huh?
Pretty hard to believe
I'm more likely to believe they just needed a way for him to come back so that's what they came up with
These dudes are literally bias and ain’t tryna hear shit nobody else saying just listen sometimes
Especially about one piece
@@chrissaint-louis488 facts
When I saw the title I clicked instantly lol cuz these dudes need to seriously get humbled
Honestly, you can rename the title to “Logic falls on the deaf ears of delusional OPM stans”
CRYING
Couldn’t have said it better myself🤣
Goku punches shake a macrocosm ( 3-9x a universe size) saitama punches open up clouds in the atmosphere. You see the difference
Literally bro One Punch fan be tripping just because the name. This dude Goku created a mini universe essentially first time going MUI and dude says Saitama can still win like wtf how?
You think that’s the only fear saitama has?
@@TNTboyz1997 that wasn’t even a mini universe like what?
@@saltmayo178 As I said "essentially", but to correct myself he created an aura that projected the image of a galaxy. No it didn't have any planetary bodies or anything but in size and scope it was essentially a galaxy. Y'all OPM be toxic on god.
@@saltmayo178 no feat he has comes close Goku universal feat and that's not even Goku best one...lol
Let's not forget that goku is also a master marital artist so on top of the fact that goku has a lot more powerful feats he knows martial arts as well and was trained by several human masters and God's whereas Saitama only relies on his power and has almost no martial arts training so even if goku and Saitama were equal goku would still body him through skill alone.
yessir
Facts don’t forget that although Goku is kinda dumb or doesn’t seem that smart outside of battle, in battle he is a genius and is always thinking of ways to outsmart his opponent
Very level headed thinking. I like this comment
Nope
Goku has never shown such strength as Saitama as in a single punch...
Saitamas serious punch: splits the clouds around the planet
Goku’s serious punch: destroys the universe
Keem: but he’s “One punch” man.
😂 goku ain’t never destroyed no universe tho
@@LelouchViBri_ he’s made an infinite void shake, do you know how strong you have to be to make infinite nothingness shake and crumble????
@@iwasthefirstnotabot exactly this puts Goku in the 4D tier easily which is usually above universal by default while grand priest (& his kids) is EVEN MORE impressive creating an entire universe and matter manipulation etc puts them on 5D scale easily and Zeno is hyperversal I don't think theese guys know about power scaling lol 😂💯
Lol funny thing is that punch that almost destroyed the universe wasn’t even serious
@@Dakingalbert2 bro these dudes don’t know jack shit I get ptsd and aids watching there powerscaling conversations lol
At least Seth has the clout required to change people’s minds
Doesnt do much against ignorance still tho
Honestly the dumbest thing they said in this video might be that they implied supersonic speed was fast enough to travel to another solar system in a minute.
This man has no valid argument to defend saitama 💀
He said saitama has done nothing to prove he could beat goku.
@@omnianimator8468 that doesn't mean sht, that's a limit fallacy
@@smjade5699 What? Take a breather. Say it with me "Saitama isn't as strong as Goku."
@@omnianimator8468 Go tell that to both of the Creator.
@@whothehelldoyouthinkiam2714 I don't understand what you mean, could you explain.
I think you guys should watch one of seth’s videos where he actually presents and explains feats of the characters and scales them in a versus battle. Seth’s krillin vs opm video is a good one to watch.
He has watched Seth's videos and doesn't agree with scaling according to author, or databook statements, he usually turns seth off saying that he doesn't get it
@@christheanimeguy6114 ah so ignorance
Here's a simpler explain to Seth's explanation so your friend can understand it
Saitama enemy is like a small chicken
Goku enemy is like a nuclear bomb shooting machine
A man could easily kill a chicken with one punch and that chicken couldn't do shit to him
But that doesn't mean he can survive a nuclear bomb
Fax
keem too much a Saitama fanboy to agree to facts :)
Agree
Seth explained thoroughly how versus battles work, and Keem/AMG still didn’t get it. How can they be this unintelligent? I will explain this as thoroughly as I possibly can, so they can understand this, and if you see this LeloucheViBri show it to them. As explained during the video Saitama is not a gag character, he isn’t invincible, and won’t win every fight. In the video it was explained that multiple characters who the strongest of which were multi-continental/planetary were able to take attacks from Saitama, and survive despite it being his intent to kill them in that instant. Goku is universal in the Battle of Gods Arc of Super in which he fought Beerus with him absorbing it into his base form afterwards. Goku would go on to have many of fights afterwards becoming thousands of times stronger, and having speeds that are massively faster than light. (Thank God AMG/Keem understood that much) Despite us not seeing Saitama not being damaged by planetary attacks it doesn’t matter. Saitama had never survived attacks from someone as strong as Goku, and until he shows he can we assume that he can’t. Based on that logic Goku is able to damage Saitama, and defeat him without Saitama being able to do the same to Goku. Especially since Saitama has failed to kill people who are planetary, or weaker despite him intending to. Even if he could damage Goku he’d still be to slow to actually hit him while Goku can OHKO Saitama. This is the response to Keem’s question. Goku would kill/beat Saitama with any attack he chooses to hit him with. In a versus battle all combatants are only scaled based off what they’ve been shown doing, or by upscaling them to via another character’s strength. This is irrelevant though since Saitama since he’s the strongest character in his own anime. You can’t have Saitama win a versus battle based off of a level strength he has yet to exert, or tank attacks with a level of durability he has yet to exhibit. That’s the point Seth was trying to explain at the beginning of the video. I hope this helps everyone learn how versus battles work. I hope it also gets y’all to except why we say Naruto/Sasuke solo One Piece.
Smoove, Keem, Lelouch only cares about Hax not Stats
that why Lelouch always said that Law + Sugar almost can solos Naruto verse
@@alitasleemsheikhmohammad5754 big facts hax> anything else
And Ikno how battle scaling works 100% I just don’t think it matters when hax are involved
@@LelouchViBri_ That’s the thing though. Hax can bypass certain things but it’s only a single piece of the equation. If Naruto is universal/solar system level he can’t be harmed by someone who is only multi-continental. (Which Naruto is universal by scaling to Momoshiki)
16:05 they didn’t send Goku away cause he was too strong, it’s cause he was too weak. They specifically sent him to Earth cause it was the only unknown planet with people who had weak power levels. Bardock also did it cause he was afraid that his prediction of Frieza killing the saiyans would come to pass. They only went to earth when they found out Raditz died and they had dragonballs. Trying to recruit Goku to join them in taking down Frieza was an added bonus, not the main goal of their quest.
No, they did not send him away "cause he was too weak". (depending on witch origin story you like more it is as follows) The new one, Bardock and Gine send him away on a whim to maybe save his life from falling to the same fate as every other Saiyan on planet Vegeta, with the promise of coming to get him if they were wrong. They also choose Earth because the inhabitants were weak and therefore Goku would be safe, which worked. OR the origional story, the Frieza Force/Saiyans on planet Vegeta send Goku to earth to conquer it himself right before planet Vegeta blows up and other than Raditz all record of Goku is gone. Bardock had nothing to do with it in this one, they were sending Goku there to take and sell earth because Earth was weak, that's it. In both scenario's Earth was also not "unknown", it was low value and far away, which matters because Frieza makes his whole business and is able to have his "Frieza Force" from conquering and selling planets to the highest bidder. Radditz went to earth to recruit Goku to help them conquer planets for Frieza, and I believe they intended on selling earth too, but Goku mentions the dragon balls to Raditz and obviously resists. Now Vegeta wants to go straight to Earth to get the dragon balls and become immortal so he can kill Frieza. thinking that the two strongest fighters on Earth were barely able to stand up to Raditz, are not a threat and that it will be easy.
Istg saitama stans are still top 10 most annoying anime fans they literally ignore all logic and the only thing they hear is one punch
Thts the whole point😂
@@benny720p 😐
@@benny720p bro did you even watch the video they are reacting to? Saying Saitama is a gag character is disrespectful to the story being told in OPM. the story after a few chapters gets WAY too dark and serious for it to be a gag story, it just isnt. the author never once called a gag,.
@@bennogb5069 people call opm a gag character because it has comedy in it when the dragonball manga started as a comedy action manga and goku did actual gag character stuff like breaking manga panels. Just because a story has comedy doesn't make it a gag series I'm glad u see that unlike tons of people.
@@benny720p Just shut up G. 😐
Keem staying ignorant...
@@ken-vk3pc same here
Send me a discord so I can debate this man and force him to concede to Goku being stronger 😂
Facts
No deadass cuz none of these argument will hold up at all
This dude said saitama has never been hurt, boros kicked him to space n he was all scratched up, i say that because that means he CAN take damage, so imagine what Goku will do to him if he was to kick him, also saitama got caught by Boros, Goku is a million times faster than Boros, i hope Saitama can keep up
@@tristanstevens7625 that was a fan translation that wasnt in the japanese version
I’m not saying saitama washes goku or anything but don’t be adding misinfo to the conversation. This was a mistranslation some dude made to hype up the chapter, saitama was covered in dirt/debris, he wasn’t scratched.
Keem is a bigger clown than Tekashi 🤡 In no universe does Saitama beat Goku, Goku would obliterate him
do you know what the difference between planetary, star, solar system, galaxy and universal level are?! especially planetary and universal? ridiculous, almost infinite in scale. saitama in manga states that he's felt boros' hits and you can literally see he's been scratched, meaning he CAN be hurt. and boros is a JOKE compared to early DBZ. DBS is infinitely beyond that. you guys are a bunch of clown who have no idea what you're talking about. just knowing the series, loving it and watching it doesn't mean you know shet about powerscaling. if seth debated you guys, he'd literally make a joke out of you. your arguments are hilarious, when you even have any. but I'll give you that you're entertaining and I like you for that.
What level of universal are we using - uni, high uni, uni+, low multi? Just universal by itself is quantified by our own observable universe so I wouldn’t say uni scales infinitely higher than planetary.
I’m just so surprised by the way they think, you bring facts to the table and your opponent brings Heart. I’m so dead😂😂😂
Goku got sent away because bardock wanted to keep him safe. Goku as a baby wasn’t all that powerful
Exactly, Goku's power level was 2 at birth. If you want a comparison, Broly's at birth fluctuated between 920 and 10,000. In fact, the farmer with a shotgun that Raditz killed at the beginning of Dragon Ball Z had a power level of 5. Saiyans class levels are assigned based on power level at birth and Goku is considered a low class Saiyan because of that, while Prince Vegeta is an elite Saiyan. King Vegeta wasn't worrying about Goku who was a low class Saiyan. He was a lot more worried about Broly who was an anomaly because his power level was a lot more than Prince Vegeta's (even though it's never specified, it's a lot less than Broly's 10,000 and a lot more than Goku's measly 2) who is supposed to be Saiyan royalty. That is why Broly was banished from Planet Vegeta and sent to Vampa. Goku on the other hand was sent to Earth by both Bardock and Gine (his parents) 2-5 years later because Bardock had a feeling that Frieza was going to kill the Saiyan race when he called back all Saiyans to Planet Vegeta. The reason Goku's escape from Planet Vegeta's destruction was successful was because Goku's power level was too low to be of significance to the Frieza Force's scouters.
@@MichaelLawrence-dv3dn well said
Keem be looking hella smooth brained after this ngl.
Dude got the iq of a brick
We are really doomed if people can understand shit like this, even when ultra simplified y'all can't understand it
I'ma keep it a stack all Goku has to do hit something real hard and he can potentially destroy one punch man's whole universe with ONE PUNCH the irony is too real but facts tho 🤷🏾♂️😭😭
Base Goku literally claps everyone in that Verse😭
We rarely see punches in Dragon Ball that strong, but that doesn't matter because their ki blasts are obviously more powerful.
@@alexism9656 let me put it like this, if a character can tanked a ki blast that could destroy a planet or solar system and then gets heavily affected by a punch, what is that telling you? Some punches have way more force than some ki blast.
@@howtomakemoneyonlinewebtra8710 We actually hardly see Dragon Ball characters get attacked by planet destroying blasts if you think about it. Most of the time they only leave craters. There's probably few times characters got hit by a planet buster because they are usually not allowed.
@@alexism9656 that due to ki control, it's been stated multiple times. We've seen enemies and heroes attacks getting deflected and tanked numerous times after putting their heart and soul into the blast mean planet casually destroyed by the flick of the wrist. (First form freeze, buu, golden freeza just by touching the ground and releasing energy so fast into it vegeta couldn't even react.
Guys don't forget that goku has way more experience than saitama:
1. Because saitama only one punch people so he doesn't know how to fight a long battle
2. Goku has fought more life threatening fights,so he is more intelligent in the battlefield
3. In dragonball it's stated than saiyans have unlimited potential to grow and they grow as the fight goes on
How in gods name can you still say goku can't beat him after watching this whole video💀
Literally talked over and didn't pay attention to 90% of the video, no point in even posting this
That’s cap
@@LelouchViBri_ you literally didn't even watch the end and didn't pay attention to the parts you did watch 😂
I did pay attention to everything bro said so idk what you mean
@@LelouchViBri_ You werent so bad with it, it's when you all start talking and debating, the video just plays in the background unnoticed, then you'll listen to it for three more seconds and then go back to debating and not listening
Exactly
Saitama:"i can destroy planet with my fist"
Goku:"awww thats cute...i can destroy universe just using in my base form now after i adapted my own super saiyan god power....my base form is even stronger then blue!!!!"
Ya know I was gonna type out an argument but realized there's no reason to because there's no way any of you would see logic.
Cap 🧢
@@LelouchViBri_ Then you would be willing to have a legit conversation about various different battles?
Wait wait wait
So it took Seth to tell you all what the majority of your comment section has been telling you across damn near every video?💀
Y’all don’t be knowing what y’all talking about
@@LelouchViBri_ Shid we know more than yall
A _LOT_ more💀
Edit: I still rock with ya channel though, yall some funny guys, just a lil friendly shit talking that's all😂
@@LelouchViBri_ everything Seth said was literally what we’ve been telling y’all LMFAOOO
@@LelouchViBri_ At least you have confidence, as well as arrogance.
Saitama: finally I killed Goku, u were tough one goku.
Vegeta: u fool that's not Goku it's yamcha
Saitama:what!
Oh god if I was over there Keem would have no chance debating me🤣🤣. Mans keep saying “he never got hurt”. Those attacks from all his enemies were nothing but city to planet surface level attacks.
I mean he's really not a scaler so that's not much of an achievement 😆
It's like the dude has the brain of a 6yro kid in an adult body.
Bruh all of em are trash at scaling
Goku’s speed tops saitama by a huge margin, when people say goku moves instantly, it’s not an exaggeration on how fast he is, it’s literally instant, faster than light itself which is the fastest measurement of speed and time we have to date, when you turn on your light switch it’s comes in really fast but isn’t instant, you can see the room lighting up before it actually does, everybody who reads this, test this in your room by turning your light on over and over to see how fast it turns on but not instantly
Goku's speed It's not instant. He's simply fast. There're dozens of characters in fiction that are way faster than light but that doesn't make them instant.
@@patrick22014Goku has surpassed granolah and granolah at the time is faster than instant transmission
He defends saitama like he knows him😂😂😂
Bro they make me wanna hurt myself hearing them think saitama can beat goku
Me to I mean bro how some people mind be functioning
LMFAOOO sometimes I be wanting to throw my phone hearing them debate.
"He's never been hurt before" even Yamcha can beat saitama LMFAO
The entire argument for saitama was. "But if he punches him."
I would love it if Seth showed up in like a discord call to straighten everything out but I doubt that will ever happen
If seth gets a hold of that dude it would be the true version of saitama vs goku 🤣
@@howtomakemoneyonlinewebtra8710 LMFAOOO
Goku could just do Hakai and erase him 😂
Goku ui have hakai you know what he did to jiren blast he hakai it with 2 fingers
@@phexolani6283 Actually he knew how to use it in the Goku Black Arc. In the Manga though, not anime.
The literal creator has stated saitama is just a character living in a world where no one can challenge him,he never stated he was a gag character like your boys say 😂😂.
Id love to see the line where anyone says hes a gag
Saitama wishes he was arale
Finally you did the right thing by showing them seth cause he does a lot research into his videos and he gives you the idea and how much really a characters is powerful compare to the other
Goku soloing most of fiction is a huge stretch...like there's shit out there like Marvel and DC comics, the SCP verse, Lovecraftian mythos, The Deathstalker sci-fi book series, etc. that are on a whole other level from Dragonball, but he's definitely soloing a bunch of animes lol.
factual, if goku stepped into the slime universe, rimuru is on shotting him no dif
Im so happy to see that write in the title🤩🤩🤩
its a lie tho goku gets one shot by rimuru and anos and issei and a lot others
First of all saitama never died because the enemies that he face are literally weak and trash compared to the enemies that goku face. Goku literally fights gods who destroy planets and galaxies for fun. Meanwhile saitama biggest feat was a planet buster.
Let’s look at it this way:
If goku was in saitama’a universe, goku would literally destroy everything with one punch. But if we put saitama in goku’s universe😂 saitama wouldn’t survive for a day. First we have saiyans who are literally overpowered and they get stronger whenever there pushed to there limits. Next we have zeno who literally destroys universes with an on and off button. Then we have the angels who can literally rewind time and there always in ultra instinct. Then we have the grand priest who is the strongest fighter in all the universes. Then we have God’s Of destruction, who literally destroy planets on the daily basis. Every fighter in dragon ball can destroy a planet, even piccolo who is a side character destroyed the moon with a ki blast. Then we go to saitama’s universe and what does goku go up against in saitamas universe, MONSTERS😂. It’s already obvious who’s stronger, and keep in mind goku and berrus almost destroyed an entire universe by ACCIDENT. Goku has always been strong since he was a kid. He almost destroyed earth by powering up to SSj3😂, goku is overpowered and broken. Goku wouldn’t even need to turn into SSj to completely annihilate saitama, because ever since goku attained SSj god, goku is now at god level at wherever form he is in. So base form goku is still god level goku. And let’s not forget that goku literally plays with his enemies, whenever Goku fights someone, he goes from SSj, to ssj 2, ssj3, ssj god, SSj blue. He try’s to see how strong his enemy is and if your below SSj blue, he’s going to play with you.
Did this guy really compare traveling the universe in minutes to "sonic speed" i can't man
How was y’all even paying attention to the video while talking so much damn 😂
Damn you can’t talk and listen at the same time? It’s not hard 😂
shout out to watching a seth the programmer power scale when i recommended it earlier. idc what anyone says in the comments, when it comes to content creators you put in work.
I don't think anybody has an issue as far as content creator it's more like the crap power scaling and wild statements which at this point I think it's done on purpose for views
@@roxas13keyblade65 the problem is the lack of attention span just pay attention to when Seth mentions the references to other series at the start and points out the attack on titan reference 2 different people say that's not attack on titan that's one punch man. Obviously that's the point of what seth said if you're watching something with intent of learning or debating pay attention the video can be paused for a reason.
@@dobber43 yeah 100% they don't pay not attention cuz they are honestly not interested in learning or getting proven wrong
@@roxas13keyblade65 exactly
Thank you Seth!
what saitama did to that mosquito is what goku would do to saitama
Goku been training for years man it’s not even shocking he achieved godly power in 30 years that took the actual gods millions to achieve and he even passed them and went on to get a angelic power in only 45 mins with out the proper training
"He's never been hurt" he's never fought anyone that could destroy universes with his punches, the most he's fought is people that can destroy a planet's surface
Facts are people don't have eyes a db character can destroy a planet by tapping it and still there people saying saitama is still the stronger smh
@@phexolani6283 bro goku at the beginning of super was multi universal
@@Ghostofcalmaity imma be honest naww He’s universal at most
@@biorythm470l3 you know that the dragon ball universe is over 300x our universe I’m size meaning when goku and berus clashed it was multi universal
@@biorythm470l3 you saying he's universal now????
You guys should watch Krillin vs OPM. Seth goes into a lot more detail on power leveling and feats that should convince your boys.
Your right keem saitama never been hurt by villains and that are comparable to saibamen 😂😂
Facts
Not even saibaman in power lol
Almost all of the enemies he fought
Are not even OG db roshi in power
No, not really. Since Kid Goku possible moon level (Cause he is stronger than Demon King Piccolo) during the Raditz fight, Raditz is most definitely planet Level. Boros is Star Level so at least Saitama could stand up to Jeice or Burter lmao
How to easily debunk those Saitama fanboys: Saitama said his fight with Boros “almost a real fight”
BASE Goku would kick Boros into the sun and it wouldn’t even be a warmup.
Y’all watching Seth tbh he got me into power scaling and stuff like that
lol same
Keem is delusional goku is way beyond any god in saitama universe even saitama himself. They are only on earth never went beyond the planet an not even planetary that's at least kami or king piccolo level early db. Goku has been surpassed gods on earth an proceeded thru the difference levels of gods throughout the universe's. It's not even a debate tbh. As the man said saitama is at his max already and it's nothing compared to gokus early feats. Saitama would get cleaned by krillin or yamacha them boys planetary an take planetary punches to the lip repeatedly don't get it fucked up lol.
We can get in a discord and i can explain this to yall because yall are not fully understanding what hes saying in this video
Ayo homies I just found your channel and I fuck with y'all heavily. I wish y'all Cuzzos mad success. One.
Goku: Low-Mid Multi-versal
Saitama: Planetary++ to Star lvl at the most.
It's simple, Saitama can only compete with a few Namek Saga characters & everything after tht washes him badly.
Ah yes so of I have a rrgular human character in a boxing anime called "The Unstoppable Man" who's never been hurt in a match before by keems logic he beats goku because he's called the Unstoppable Man and he's never been stopped or hurt
AYOOOOOOOOO Yessirrrrrrr we vidddddd
“He hasn’t been hurt” isn’t an argument he has only been hit with planetary to galactic attacks goku slams
This is just sad to watch tbh. Yall need to spend less time making up your own head Canon and listen to seth cause he knows way more about this shit than any of yall.
Goku can kill wit one punch every character he fights if he wants look up goku’s dragon fist✊🏾🤛🏾
Oh yeah I forgot about the dragon fist
Not every Character but Only
Tree - Universe
Every character? Calm down
Goku does not ohko every character.
@@HZTenh17g yeah can’t compete with the angels, Zeno’s guards, the grand priest and Zeno himself
When you realize every one punch man villain is basically raditz level...and saitama had to put in SOME effort using his “serious punch”
Base Goku mops him.
Except for
Garou, Boros, Homeless Emperor, Phsykos, Vomited Ugly Fur, Evil Natural Water
@@alitasleemsheikhmohammad5754 Raditz busts planets...
even a weaker piccolo busts the moon casually.
Garou and boros haven’t shown anything above planetary and saitama has to put in effort.
Meanwhile Jiren can literally look at universal characters and beat them.
Unless one of these have done more than planetary? Let me know
Nah wrong
Almost all the enemies that saitama has fought are not even OG db roshi lol
Even boros is like surface to plenat level
Witch is barley above that roshi
16:20 Kid Goku was dodging bullets and soloing armies with guns from what I remember
Also saitama isn’t a gag character if y’all were listening thays what Seth was explaining also him saying “ he’s never been hurt before” doesent matter because he’s never been hit by somebody as strong as goku
When it comes down to it, we haven't seen a feat from Saitama yet that would suggest he can destroy the solar system. That doesn't mean he CANT, as we haven't seen Saitama really be tested against an equal opponent yet. We just dont know. We do definitely know that dragon ball characters have been able to destroy the solar system since the Cell saga though.
That is exactly people can't say shit like he can defeat goku. That is like saying a school football team that wins every match will beat a world class team that has lost before. Or a car that has won every street race will beat an F1 racing car.
You seem to forget that that’s not saitamas power in the manga it was given to him by a god
@@imthatjay8477And Goku and Vegeta have god powers
I’d have cut this video in half if I was there gang
They all forgot that saitama wouldn't start serious either. He only brings out that punch when he thinks the other person would survive it, but until he sees goku take a bunch of his hits he wouldn't take it seriously either
also saitama has limitless GROWTH, not limitless power
Subbed fam I fucking love this channel and anime equally. We gotta Collab and talk anime bro💯👌🏾 I can do that shit all day especially over Dragonball 😂
Shit lemme get my food ready so i can watch this
One punch man is low key a isekai combined with a classic shounen. I just realized.
They hear Seth talking about they don't listen to him. The power level of their ignorance is beyond Goku and Saitama combined.
Again a reminder for u 4 gents u need the attack potency of your enemies durability to damage them for goku's cause u need to be at least universal to do some sort of damage if your attack is only planetary lvl,star lvl,solor system lvl,galaxy lvl u won't scratch goku not at all
Ima just drop this hint here. Goku fought frieza for 5 minutes during the planet namek saga. The whole fight was minutes in real time. During the cell games the announcer which was a regular human couldn't see goku and cell clash they appeared invisible to him and Hercule. The stronger you get in dragonball the faster you become as well. Saitama wouldn't even see goku coming. My man's goku is faster than light itself. Even at base form, goku would treat him as child's play.
The Frieza "5 minutes" isn't used as speed feats and is more so seen as Frieza being horrible with his processing of time. Saitama is also faster than light.
@@CK-wv5hg the fight was actually five minutes. If you fast forward the whole fight it equals up to five minutes fam. The whole fight was drawn out to make it look longer than it really was but the fight was really 5 minutes. Saitama aint faster than light yet fam.
@@AugusteTheGreat
It doesn't really matter if it was 5mins sped up since that's not how you would watch it anyway. Like I said, it's debatable whether Freiza's 5mins were accurate in the first place. Saitama is faster than characters who are stated faster than light and has statements that heavily imply Lightspeed is a joke to him.
@@CK-wv5hg well for starters you can read the official dragonball guide to see how long the fight was. The author said the planet blows up in 5 minutes and purposely drew out the entire fight for cinematic effects. You can look at all the dragonball fights where the characters even state that the fighters are moving so fast they can barely keep up. Saitama lightspeed feats....1. Where he jumped from the moon to earth in 3 seconds. That aint lightspeed goku travels from earth to king kais planet in 3 seconds. 2. The fast movement afterimage mirage move he did where he seemed to have many copies at one time. That aint lightspeed my boy lol
@@AugusteTheGreat them fighting for 5 minutes is not a speed feat clown.., they just slowed down and capped time on the series just for the fight to be drawn out, they dont talk for 5 minutes and go back and forth
There's this chick in Medaka Box whose casual scratch can have a person get any illness that exists, she'd kill Goku with literally a tap.
Dude made the point about Goku dying before but he’s never actually been killed by an enemy in a fight. Both times he died he sacrificed himself.
Watch Seth video saying krillin would beat saitama he debunks him being a gag character because u know gag characters defy physics which saitama never done
This guy needs to get how u gonna one punch someone if u cant touch them and saitama never been hurt cause he fights week villans compared to dragon ball mans full of excuses 😭
What are the names of the guy in blue, the guy in the gray sweat shirt with the backwards cap and the guy in the dark gray sweat shit with the forwards cap?
I'v eseen them in a ton of videos but I've yet to hear their names
Like How Spider-Man holds back his punches because he’s kill every human he fights with a hit Goku holds back so he doesn’t destroy the shit around him
Ok which one of those people are in Goku’s level or any god of destruction so way are you being up the fact that he hasn’t gotten hurt by people who are FAR under goku not even in the same dimension
No we just need them to watch a video about one peice scaling to other shows to get that Mihawk nonsense out of their minds lmfao
🤣🤣yooo u r soo right
I can list so many characters who can wipe the floor with goku.
Dr manhattan
10:24 i feel like when their talking about one punch man their just talking about visuals if dragon ball shows goku destroying universes everytime they probably believe he could beat saitama rather then listening to the factual power of the two not knowing that saitama is planetary level while goku is beyond universe level
Ya aint even listen to what seth said😭
Goku has killed demon king piccolo and Frieza in the resurrection F movie
Y'all need to make a discord for debates
who else realizes that they aren't even listening