Canadian here. This was the first and last war our two countries ever fought against each other: since then, we have been brothers and allies for over 200 years, and now co-maintain the longest undefended border in the world! It was the first war we fought as Canadians, not just British or French or Native warriors. We've fought together against aggressors, invaders, terrorists, and undemocratic oppressive regimes, side-by-side (with only two exceptions) ever since. My father was in the Canadian Army during the Cold War; his father was in the U.S. Army during the Great War. Hooray for our NATO, NORAD, and Anglophone (Five-Eyes) military alliances! Canada & America Forever!! 🇨🇦 X 🇺🇸
Unfortunately, your once great country is now a WOKE hell hole, taken over by a bunch of little dictators like Justin Tredeau! When are you going to take your country back?!
Same here. My father was a Canadian Militia Engineer during the Cold War, and HIS father was a Regimental Sergeant Major in the U.S. Army Artillery.....brothers-in-arms ever since! 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇦🇺 🇨🇦 🇳🇿 The English Alliance, and our multilingual allies from NATO and our indigenous warriors: defenders of peace, democracy, and human rights!
Thank you for posting this. Nowadays there is too much reality tv on cable and i am glad to watch these type of history shows. I miss the good old days before reality tv took over. Love these types of history shows.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
This documentary on 1812 was awesome. I was on the edge of my seat through all of it. Reminded me of my JHS history teacher. MR. Root with the blue suit! What a good man.
I'm 70 y.o. American, always been astute and willing to hear and read, seeking to understand both sides of an argument. This is the first historical record of the subject matter I've been exposed to in my life! Makes me wonder where I've been all my life any way.
@krisfalkenberg Thank you for that! A True Heart. Out of a mist of Sorrows & Regrets, still listening Stillness whispering, whole Catacombs somber wakening sunset fireflies. Owel.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
Look into the First National Bank of 1791. Who owned it ultimately, and what happened when they tried to recharter the 2nd National Bank in 1811. And again what happened when they tried to recharter the Bank in 1831 under Andrew Jackson and the epitaph on his tombstone.
Didn't really like history when I was younger but after 50 I just can't get enough. Archeology. Wars Ancient history, Languages etc. Maybe a head injury I suffered at 49 has something to do with this.
im the same way I was self taught through documentaries, and magazines like archaeology, paleontology,ancient history, and now im into the james web space telscope, the universes. I love my lap top computer, but after all the watching on youtube I have wore out a half dozen of them
What a wonderful program! I learned more about the War of 1812 from this program than I ever knew before. I am an American. I served in the US Marines for 20 years. During that time, I have worked with Canadians in your Army and Navy many times. I have nothing but deep respect and affection for our northern brothers and sisters. My wife is from Canada. She is a wonderful woman and we have a very happy union together, not very different from the great relationship our two countries have shared for nearly 200 years. God bless the people of Canada and the United States! May our friendship and good relations last forever.
I'm an American and a Wisconsinite and a history buff. I just want to share my thanks to the people of Canada for this content and everything else. My only memory of Canada is on a week-long fishing trip for my grandparents 50th wedding anniversary at Lac Souel (or something to that effect) in Ontario. I was like 11 years old and caught the biggest fish of the entire party that week with a 33 inch Northern Pike. I still have an old top to a pine tree that I found in the water and have used as a walking stick for many years. My first experience with poker...Great memories.
I remember a old song I use to hear on a jukebox back in the early 80’s when I was just a little kid. The song was called (Battle of New Orleans, in 1814) I was about 5yrs old and I thought it was the catchiest tune ever and played it a thousand times probably. Not knowing anything about that song until I was an adult and seeing this video just reminded me of that.
SAME HERE, except it was when it first came out that I did. A terrific item. Search here and you'll find it to hear. I did a few weeks ago. So . . . we both attend the same university! Graduation is at demise!!!
It is so wonderful to hear the Canadian side of this history. As a duel citizen of Canada and the USA, I congratulate PBS for an outstanding presentation.
I had some Canadian friends in college. At some point, they brought up this war and battles Canadians won. Of course, as an American, I has no idea about any of that side of it. I knew Washington was burned but not much else.
Awesome documentary, great quality. I have two grandfathers who served in this war. My 4th great grandfather Moses Tucker in 7th mounted regiment ky militia under Micah Taul. Then his father my 5th gg William w. Tucker of adair ky served under John Simpson's unit in john allens rifle regiment ky militia. William was killed at the battle of river raisin in 1813. His captain John simpson was said to have been killed immediately in a British counterattack.
Lastly, I have greatly enjoyed this documentary. Documentaries like this one should be used in schools. It is not a biased presentation which is key! Our public education system is now an unmitigated disastet by design so this documentary should be used in private, charter or parochial schools.
My 5th parental great grandfather his name was Charlie C. Woodruffe he fought in this war of 1812 on the British side after the war he was given 50 acre of land in British Guiana where he retire n started a sugar cane plantation and today we still lived on this land.
There is a plaque on the Dun Building in downtown Buffalo where i used to work which commemorates the location of Buffalo's first schoolhouse which was burned down during the war of 1812. Built in 1895, and at 10 stories, the Dun Building is considered Buffalo's first "skyscraper"
I went to elementary school at battlefield school. Site of the battle of Lundy's lane in 1814. We used to dig up old flints and musket parts in the field.
I live in New York State. Kept a sailboat at Sackets Harbor. The War of 1812 is well remembered and noted there. An my wife and I went to Baltimore and took the ferry to Ft. McHenry. They have a video presentation of the war and, at the end, one wall telescopes and opens to face the huge US flag on a huge pole and the National Anthem plays. I (all 6'2" of me) stood there weeping while most of the other tourists wandered out and a National Park Ranger came up to me and shook my hand and said: "It hits me that way, too." Most citizens are spoiled to what being the United States cost our ancestors.
AMEN; hel* they can't even tell time on an actual clock, read nor write cursive, and certainly could care less about history or anything that isn't a show, a game, or an electronic/computerized device. The US has bred a generation of zombies.
I lived in Fells Point in Baltimore in the early 90s and the history of that area from that time period was fascinating. Little corner bars that were pubs and meeting places from that time still open. The city was reconstructing the cobblestone streets and people buying and remodeling the homes to the period. I found the history of the area to be very interesting. I would love to go back and see it today, especially after watching this program.
Who won? I should have gone right to end instead of listening to the entirety. I live on a 'indian' reservation. Tecumseh chose the wrong side. When will I learn to avoid the Propaganda Broadcasting System? These federalist democrat authoritarians hate the republic.
One of my best friends fought with 2, 100-year-old flint-lock guns back in 1813. That's a testimony of how slow the technological progress was when it comes to firearms.
One of my great grandpas (Wallace) fought in this war. He had to walk back home after surviving the war. While walking home and crossing a bridge he was robbed at gunpoint and shot and killed. Story is that he was buried beside that bridge.
That's awful! I'm sry to read that a man who fights in a war, survives, only to come home ( or not quite) to be killed by the very ppl he was fighting to protect... another citizen. A terrible tragedy I've heard many times and it never ceases to break my heart. You are his legacy and his reason to fight. A future for his family!
I live in Windsor Ontario. General Brock is a local hero here as we as Chief Tecumseh. One of our main roads is Tecumseh road and I went to General Brock elementary school. Definitely not forgotten in this neck of the woods.
It's not well taught in the U.S. guarantee you most Americans don't know that's when the star stangled banner came about and instead think it was the revolutionary War. Most of the 17th and 18th century wars are not taught because of the internal strife that followed, the Civil War period and manifest destiny. It's an American under dog story but they are right about one thing in this, the British sold out what was left of hope for Native Americans. What I don't understand is why the special sympathy for the conquered. It's not typical because history is full of the conquered, the Native Americans conquered each other constantly, it's sad when anyone loses their land but it was normal and people don't have a problem with it elsewhere. Mostly because the records are so long you couldn't possibly name the natives who were conquered. I would wager all of them at one point or another conquered and were conquered.
@@jamesmuncy3326 you should look up Laura Secord. She fought with Canadian militias in 1812 and she did crazy rad S#it to stop an attempted invasion of Canada. Laura Secord is a straight BadAss, annnnd girls today don't care for some reason, will never understand women. Lol
FACT CHECK: at 7:06 he says "In 1810 The war was Pushed by the Republican party" THERE WAS NO Republican party then. The Republican party was created in 1854 Why not blame Donald Trump for the war of 1812?
I think of myself as a good person of history. I have got to read about this. Mine is mostly ww2. This was amazing I learned a lot from this. Thank you.
Can you believe, I live about 10 miles from the war of 1812 cemetery outside of Buffalo and have never been there? I will make a point to go there before winter. I want to go to my great grandparent's grave (close to there) anyway.
wow, you rarely see many 86 year olds in the comments. most 86 year olds have no clue what youtube is, nevermind how to leave comments. I hope you had a good birthday trixie, and I hope your 87th in two or three months is a good one too. Here’s to good health.
He was a big-time Indigenous leader and uniter of native tribes across North America, had he lived and was successful in his aims, the outcome would have likely been much different to this day! Here on Ontario, he has an entire Township named after him, and our hero Sir Isaac Brock was so grateful, he gave him a personally-engraved medallion or something as a present!
Grew up in N.Falls,ON..at the foot of Lundy's Lane..we always found bits of 'war' in the exposed dirt hill behind Barker St. School...This is by far The Best doc Ive seen aboot 1812! Thank You from far away Denmark!!!
Fascinating and useful video. Ty! Early in the pandemic I taught flute lessons over Zoom to a young woman who lived near Toronto. She enlightened me quite a bit about the Canadian defensive victory in 1812. The only memory of the War of 1812 from my AP US History course long ago was that the British army had marched over undefended Maryland to burn down the White House. And of course The Star Spangled Banner. Also, even though I married a young man from Cleveland, OH, I was unaware of the battles there. I am learning history now. Better to know now than never. 😮
Canadians ENTIRE identity is based on the fact that they are NOT American nor are British. Canadians dont know what they are but they dang sure know what they are not! Canada is the 'white bread' of western nations! they are just kind of there!
Yea shows how govt will never give up power the BRITISH EMPIRE THE ROMAN EMPIRE NOW THE BIDE AND OBOMA TYRANICAL WHERE ARE THEY NOW.TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN TO MARTHERS VINYARD
Wonderfully interesting and well done doc. I think program's like this should be shown in all schools as a teaching aide. If course somebody will object to black soldiers and first nations losing rights and territories, but I think this has made history come alive 😊😊
@krisfalkenberg Whoa... what is 'superficial'? Methinks thou doest err, my dear sir. From the fathomless bottom of whosoever's mind doest thou so cogitate to generate such mischka bubbled thoughts, or: ... "where'd you read this gibberish?" 🤓
Former teacher here. School administration will also object as they view films as lazy teaching. I think their arrogance and power trips have rotted their minds.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
This is the real history that amerika loves to bury - whining about so-called 'British tyranny' while holding Black chattel slaves and making massive profits off free free labor for centuries...
I really appreciate info from the historical Canadian perspective. Tecumseh was indeed a brilliant tactician - I loved his simple solution of too few Warriors - just parade them by more than once. Lucky there were so many trees! The disappointing part of this 'War' was the loss of the 'mitten' (Michigan) to the Native Warriors as compensation for their participation . It's the first time I understood our strange blip in our southern border.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
My great grand father was born in 1813. My family lived in N.C. close to the Jacksons. They named my g. grand father after a young officer out of the war. My g.grandfather's name was Andrew Jackson Dunnagan from Hillsboro N.C.. He later went though the cuberlsnd Gap with Daniel Boone went to Tenn.. Patrick Dunnagsn
I loved reading about Andrew Jackson on the twenty dollar bill you can see the scare on his cheek when he was 12 the Brits ransacked the Jackson farm the father was gone and his mother was sick in bed but young jackson just didnt move fast enough cleaning the officers boots and so he took his sword and sliced Andrew down the cheek so Andrew and his mother had to walk a very long distance to a relatives his mother died shortly after from milk fever and Andrew Jackson joined the militia he was a drummer boy at first but soon became a good sniper and worked his way up until the battle of New Orleans when he finally got his chance to even the score for his mothers death. A lot of scores where settled in New Orleans at that time!
I recently became interested in the Second War of Independence, 1812 - 1815, when I read a statement by a famous 19th century author which was a snide remark against Old Hickory Jackson. And it's sort of ironic that I really admire most of the output of this author. Instead of being the Governor of Louisiana, Gen. Pakenham was pickled in a hogshead of rum and sent back to Ireland for burial, as we all know. Some of you, historians, might know whether the rumor is true about General Pakenham's barrel of rum being missent to some tavern? If so, their version of Happy Hour must've been Havoc when the clientele started questioning the rum's brackish quality and the gruesome truth was discovered.
Thanks, prior to watching this account of the War of 1812 , what I had know about it remained vague, but the way in which this narration of the war was parted out, helps instill a finer understaning of events leading up to it, what suceeded them, and how it ended.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
You know there are subjects where the lore is the only thing remembered. But thank God, For Historians And those of us who love History and Science. Good job all And Thank You
I grew up near Baltimore. I could have heard the bombardment of Fort McHenry from my house. A short walk up a nearby hill and I could have seen the bombs bursting in air. By the time I was 14 I knew the story of the Battle of Baltimore, how important it was in restoring moral after the debacle at Washington. The same men who ran from the British at Bladensburg, held the line east of Baltimore. Maybe the War of 1812 is little known, but for me it's an important part of our history.
Yup and I went to the same school as harry Potter and im n im now married with hermelijn and have 2 magic dragons that are living in our castle somewhere above a rainbow
Bull Run battle field in Manassas was literally ACROSS the road from me when I lived there in early 80s. Too bad I didn't care about anything regarding history then. Seeing how I just graduated highschool and partying was my main concern. I'm actually historical now it's been so long! Miss those Virginia days. I'd be all over that battlefield if i lived there now. Cigarettes were 50 cents a pack also in Manassas. Were way cheap.
As a child, the American Revolution held my heart- and as i aged, the wars the surrounded it became included: The French and Indian War, The Tripoli Pirate War, and the War of 1812 create a collection of ideas that define a continent for the next 250 years.
The civil war completes the series. The conflict between the slave owner classes and the merchant classes ended in victory for the merchant side. This is why new england wanted to secede from the union at the time of the 1812 war, as it was a slaver's peace.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
I saw General Brock's coat that he was wearing when he was shot at a traveling exhibition that was at the Halifax Citadel at the time. It said no pictures... BUT I TOOK ONE ANYWAY! I guess the good General Brock's flippant and brazen attitude jumped right into me.
I saw it in the war museum in Ottawa when I was a little kid. He was my hero and I insisted that we see his monument at Queenston Heights when we were on holiday.
My 4th great grandfather was W H Harrison's staff officer during War of 1812. Col. Robert Thompson Gilmore. After the war he handled much of W H H correspondence, up until elected President.
I live in Waverly Ohio. The heart of the Shawnee. I live right on the Scioto River. Chillicothe has reenactments of the story of Tecumseh. A very popular showing. Chillicothe also has the yearly Feast of the Flowering Moons. 30 mins away is also the legendary Serpent Mound. Lots of History around this area a Ohio Valley. Shawnee State Forest is a beautiful place for hiking and horseback. Especially during the Fall times. Sad that this area has fallen to the Rust Belt issues that include poverty and drug epidemic.
I'm right there with ya, off the Scioto River (not in Waverly, but north of ya)! Ohioans like to talk about the war with Michigan more than the war of 1812, lol. The war humbled us a bit. British burned down our capitol, Canadians held us back. We almost lost our independence all over again because of our arrogance declaring war on Great Britain! We only like to remember the victories; not learning from ALL our triumphs AND mistakes. Oh well. Go bucks! ^_^
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
I have a copy of the muster record of my paternal 4th great-grandfather who served in the War of 1812 with the Kentucky Mounted Militia. It lists the personal items he brought with him into service including "a saddle, a flintlock rifle, a scalping knife, and a tomahawk."
@@TheHalfBlackReaper - no, my grandfather was part of the force raised in response to the Raisin River Massacre that served under the command of "Old Tippecanoe" William Henry Harrison. He served in a Kentucky regiment of mounted riflemen led by Colonel Richard M. Johnson that assisted in the defeat of Proctor's British Regulars & Tecumseh's Natives at Ontario, Canada, in the Battle of Thames on October 5, 1813.
Very happy you picked the PBS version of The War of 1812. Unlike the Canadian version this one is accurate. It's fun to watch this two year piece of Canadian and American history. Canada grew up as a country and America got their national anthem. Remember too the US Constitution stated there would be no national armed forces. These battles changed that too.
It's told mostly from the perspective of Canada, the Indian natives both Canadian and the Brits! It's an excellent Doc. It also has a good story-line on Tecumseh's Iroquois Confederacy's participation. Didn't expect much and instead got a well rounded story of the war. Had great perspective from all sides of the nationalities involved. Usually you only see or read parts of this war. So having it all put together in such a well rounded way, was a real treat. I highly recommend it 🙂
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
Actually this was for PBS and it was an American film crew that came over here to film it. I actually think the film takes a very neutral stance on the war its just that some of the Canadian perspectives have never been openly discussed in many docs.
@@ci3008 The documentary is referring to the Democratic-Republican Party, which was also known as the Republicans--a completely different entity than the Republican Party of today. After the victory of Andrew Jackson, the party split into two: the Democrats and National Republicans, which later became the Whigs who later disintegrated and were absorbed into the modern-day Republican Party.
@@ci3008the team that put this together is Canadian give them some slack. But to your point the ruling party of the day was called the Republican Party in shorthand. If anything their mistake was not explaining that republican and democratic republicans are the same thing in this era
@Danny Edelman There was no Republican party in 1812. There was only a democrat/republican party(that is one party that later became the Democrat party). It's odd that he chose to say republican party instead of democrat party know that was a predecessor of the current Democrat party., but since it was something looked down upon he chose to say republican. He knew that most people don't know any better and would just accept that it was the republican party of today. Disingenuous historical revisionist. The media does this all the time. Y'all suck.. 🤮
In short not only was it not an overwhelming win for Team USA, but also an embarrassment of not living up to our Declared and Constitutional ideals. As a 2nd generation Mick Veteran who grew up with tales about the evil English, I was awed, enlightened, and actually cheering how wise it was for the English to train freed slaves as British Marines. Never heard that before. Nor before have I heard as much about Tecumseh, and understand exactly why General Sherman's father named this warrior so eponymously. This is a tale that I will watch many more times and look forward to reading more about.@@davidb271
I lived in Maumee Ohio literally across the street (River Road) from Fort Miami's, which overlooked the Maumee River, where the massacre took place (1813). It was an abandoned fort from the early 1790's controlled by the British, (associated with the battle of Fallen Timbers). But in the war of 1812 Fort Meigs was built (Feb,1813) in anticipation of continued British attacks along the Maumee, it was finished by the end of 1813, and not a moment too soon. The fort was impenetrable, as green lumber was used in making it - non-susceptible to fire arrows and it was also built on a bluff overlooking the Maumee River, rapids, the Fort held off a 5-day siege, until reinforcement arrived. A replica fort is there today in now Perrysburg Ohio, lot of history there.
Hi p.j. Good to hear from a fellow Maumeeian(?) I know the area you lived quite well. There's a good chance we might have even known each other. Great post with one small error. It's Perrysburg...not Perrysville. Named for Oliver Hazard Perry who the vid referenced in taking the great lakes. Thx for the post and your right, the area is steeped in history around the 1800's.
The importance of the War of 1812 (which is sometimes underestimated or forgotten) is that it forged two nations in North America that have lived side-by-side and in peace ever since. For both Canada and the United States, the War of 1812 was formative in shaping the national identity of each.
Its biggest effects seem to clearly be the that standing armies might be required. And that identies were formed around a time when the boarders and lines weren’t fully settled. It’s definitely a great identity crises
@@intercommerce Yes it does, the video explains (from 1:36-1:39) that it was the British attack on Baltimore in September 1814 that inspired the Star Spangled Banner, the music hymn based on an old English drinking song.
@@siroptimistic and the french stayed in the bay to see who would win.. then helped them After the fact! (yes reallly) also true that it was an old bar song! my father told me that years ago.. and as usual he was right..
@@BEAUTYnIQ Yes, the US anthem even sounds like a drinking song, and you can picture a bunch of people in a bar raising their beer mugs while singing the tune of this old English drinking-song.
My 4th GGF fought in this war for the British. He emigrated to Canada from Lyme, CT in 1800. His grandfather was a General on the US side. So, my 4th GGF fought against my 6th GGF. He was granted land in Ontario for his service.
Yes, I suspect many an American's ancestors fought against each other in the US Civil War too! My paternal grandfather was from NJ and fought for the US Army in WW1, alongside my countrymen in the Canadian Army, against the 'Gerries' !
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
I don't know much about 1812 . But I do know that ww11. Not only did Canada send her son's to die on distant shores, But they helped feed us afterwards. We had nothing. We don't just share a Queen. Canada is Part of us. (Sent from Coventry )
i'm loving it but i have to keep rewinding as i doze off, not through boredom just damn age I think (i would find that so frustrating watching my older relatives doze off sat in their chairs missing a good film, seems its my turn! now!) 😆😆😆
Thank you, you taught me much about the War of 1812 my high school and university instructors and professors failed to. My ancestors and relatives fought on both sides of this tragic war- Americans and Canadians, Scottish, English, French, Spanish, Natives, etc. Thank you again. Happy New Year.
Wade Hampton was a Revolutionary War officer who served with Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion in South Carolina during the war in 1780-1782. His son, Wade II, served with Andrew Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans with distinction. His grandson, Wade Hampton III would be a famous Confederate cavalry officer who served with JEB Stuart.
I remember studying the war of 1812 in American History class in high school in the early 1950's. It wasn't anything like this. It was sort of "Oh we fought Canada and Britain in the war of 1812". It was treated as more of a small skirmish. The Brits did burn the White House during the war.
And Rolf Harris song of course! 😆 Think we're beginning to find out a lot of history thats been hidden from us. Like more whites were kidnapped from coastal fishing villages (thats men women and children) by the islamic ottomans and back to North Africa Ottoman territory than blacks were ever taken across the atlantic to America. (Yep, kept that from us didnt they?) I learnt that from Dr Thomas Sowell, black American gentleman.
I just remember that song "in 1814 we took a little trip, along with cl Jackson down the mighty mississip. We took a little beacon & we took a little beans..."
DLB, More specific the White House was abandoned by its tenants who took off from Washington when it seemed the British were arriving. They arrived under Major General Robert Ross who was at that time the youngest general in the army. He was an Irishman educated at Trinity college Dublin.
@@ccahill2322 The British also allowed people to leave their homes & take some possessions before they buildings were burned. It was considered good manners. The Americans did the same in Upper Canada.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
Excellent. This small omission: the victorious general at Queenston Heights was Roger Sheaffe. After Brock's foolish death, Sheaffe cautiously waited for forces from nearby forts to arrive, lined them up in a traditional infantry line, and accepted the surrender of the numerically superior but demoralized Americans.
battle of Fort Stephenson 1813, a vastly numerically superior force of 3,300 British soldiers and their Native American allies lose to just 160 US soldiers, the British with a 20-1 numerical advantage lost the battle against the Americans
I always wondered about that too but after listening to a talk about Sheaffe at a history conference it was pointed out that Sheaffe's reputation was soured after retreating from York in 1813 and blowing up the powder magazine in order to cover his army's retreat. It was also mentioned that he was not a charismatic figure like Brock so was not as popular with the men who served under him.
@@larrybarnard4762 Yup. I only mentioned it because everyone talks about Isaac Brock, who got himself shot at Queenston Heights with his enthusiastic bravado; Brock got the statue and the University and so many Brock Streets; and no one mentions Roger Sheaffe, who won at Queenston Heights, with his more traditional approach; and got the ticket home merely because he retreated in the face of 2 to 1 odds at York, and preserved his force.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
to say the least: THIS has been the most thoroughly researched and cleanly laid out documentary i've watched in my whole life. no sides were taken, no overly emotional expressions used. this could be a proper example for any history student on how to write a proper paper about historic events. it's a fine piece of journalist work to me. no more, but surely no less by far! Great work!
Tecumseh’s brother Tenskwatawa, had a local Chief named Leatherlips, executed for witchcraft, of all things, about 5 miles north of my home. This Chief was friendly with the local settlers and Tenskwatawa had Chief Roundhead, from up near present day Kenton, Ohio, come down to just north of Columbus and carry the execution out. He hadn’t done himself any favors by not agreeing to unite with Tecumseh and his coalition of tribes. One of Tecumseh’s tomahawks is still on display at Adena-the home of Ohio’s first governor, Thomas Worthington. His name mean’s, roughly, Panther Crossing the Sky as he was born on one of the extremely rare passings of Haley’s comet. He was a giant of a man among men. (Figuratively speaking). What a great video about a chapter in our history that was barely touched upon in MY primary school years-1970-1976. I doubt it is even taught nowadays. (I hope I am wrong about that) but I had to get a BA in early American history to find out more. ❤️✌🏼
Stop with the God Damn Music that is drowning out the Narrator that I prefer to hear,not that stupid music that you have so loud. What is the point of it anyway.
Coming from someone who grew up in Michigan didn't appreciate 8th grade History class im 43 and I can comprehend alot better now then I use too when I was a Lil kid! I just love all of these presentations on history I see the press had influence on the war, citizens thought of war much hasn't changed. Lije they said when the Natives whooped ass its pressed a massacre. When white people won it was a great thing ! So I'm sure that has helped many to dislike Natives for many generations I'm sure the same thing happened with Africans justifying the chains and whips I feel if the press could just have been honest yesterday today and tomorrow United States as a country would be nicer!
Interesting that you say " giants" I live up in Kenton Ohio. There's hearsay that Chief Leatherlips and his brother Chief Roundhead we're both part giant. 7-11ft I guess?. Now I'm not saying that I believe that but I do find it interesting nonetheless. Heck, Martin VanBuren an the Seville Ohio giants story is a good one. Anyhow back on point, witchcraft has alot of history in this part of the state. Kenton used to be known as " the most magical town in the world" believe it or not. Back in those days even being a magician was considered witchcraft. The IBM " international brotherhood of magicians" actually started here. I'd like to know the exact type of witchcraft that his brother was guilty of practicing. Anyhow, sorry to blow this reply up just found your comment interesting
@RayOKeefe-cm4zy The Maori are famous first forward warriors. I have ultimate respect for your land and people. It is hard not to hold a grudge in this lifetime, for lands stolen before we were born. I struggle to let it go, to not harbor hatred about long ago crimes. Yet we have to stand for justice, for strength and truth. Beautiful lands, hot, happy days on the river here! Thanks for the comment.
@@iowablackhawk7091 Respect to You an all Yours,I have to let go what has gone on,like you say,Before we were born,or else I cannot move forward,All the very best @iowablackhawk7091. 👊✊
As a Brit I should like to say that was a fascinating history, very well told. I remember seeing a plaque mentioning the 1812 war in Buffalo on my first visit to the States in 1978. It was the first I had heard of it. Although I knew the "Battle of New Orleans" song, covered in the UK by the late Lonnie Donegan in 1956, I hadn't twigged the significance of "In 1814 we took a little trip....". So Britain fighting on two fronts at the time, Napoleon and USA.
What is really interesting about this conflict is it is doubtful it would have ever occurred if it was not for the war going on in Europe. Oh and as I side note I was an extra in this film. I am a Canadian war of 1812 reenactor but dressed up to represent both sides during this film.
Yes I am the Sgt./safety officer of our unit. Living history is a great past time. Camping, reenacting historical events and sharing knowledge with the public. @@b.r.holmes6365
Napoleon was fighting on many fronts at the same time fighting entire massive European coalitions Napoleon had to fight against Prussia, Russia, Austria, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, several German states, several Italian states, the Ottoman Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the French Monarchy, and many others, the US also largely fought the war of 1812 on its own while the US had to fight against not only the British empire but also their Canadian Militia, and Native allies, the US also had to fight against the the American born Loyalists to Britain who fled to Canada after the British lost the revolutionary war also known as the United Empire Loyalists, the US also had to fight the African soldiers who were allied to the British and the US also had to fight the Spanish in Florida during the war of 1812
I pay my respects to Chief Tecumseh every year at his memorial site on the side of the Thames River on Highway 2 (Longwoods Road) just outside of Moraviantown
I'm very close to old Stoney Creek crazy to think how this war is remembered in Canada and unsettling that the natives after in both Canada and the USA loss so much there culture there land I'm also amazed to hear from so many Americans that don't get the full historical fact of the war of 1812
It's not that we don't get it, our schools don't teach us the true facts. They sugar coat everything and give a poor overview of our historical fuck ups
Canadian here. I live across the lake from you. I think the reason Americans don't all know about it is it was a much bigger deal for us than it was for them. It was a relatively short, small-scale war, where their country was not under threat, unlike the civil war, revolutionary war, or world wars. Plus, they probably downplay it since they lost. Had they won, they'd likely teach it in all the schools, and we'd be US citizens! Instead, the status quo remained unchanged after it was over, so no biggy to them. For us, the birth and salvation of our nation!
@@intercommerce The brits lost the war of 1812 in every way, sorry the canadian school system has done a false history rewrite on this war. Canada didn't control its foreign policy until the 1930's learn your own history. And Britian did not recognise its soverenty until the 1980's
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
So just out of curiosity do you believe this channels version of events to be 100% accurate and true? Or are you just saying you enjoyed the presentation?
@firestorm8471 That's irrelevant and slightly pedantic. They were the ancestors of modern day Canadians raised and living on the same land and under the same laws that their descendants hundreds of years on still live under, and they were fighting for the future that Canadians have now and are proud of. For all intents and purposes they absolutely were Canadians. If your only talking about the name to be technical that's fine, but I see people say this in an attempt to try to downplay or take away from Canadian history and it really doesn't hold up
@Danny Edelman There was no Republican party in 1812. There was only a democrat/republican party(that is one party that later became the Democrat party). It's odd that he chose to say republican party instead of democrat party know that was a predecessor of the current Democrat party., but since it was something looked down upon he chose to say republican. He knew that most people don't know any better and would just accept that it was the republican party of today. Disingenuous historical revisionist. The media does this all the time. Y'all suck.. 🤮
This was an interesting, and previously unknown part of the War of 1812. As a youngster I recall being taught about Fort McHenry, and General Andrew Jackson and the Battle of New Orleans ... and living in New Orleans at the time we were taken on field trips to the Chalmette Battlefield - some 15 miles on the outskirts of the City of New Orleans proper. The Canadian etc aspects weren't part of the curriculum.
I live in Western NY, and came up hearing stories or seeing historic places, but never knew what events actually transpired. I had no clue that the very city i'm from (Buffalo) was basically burnt to the ground during said war. Interesting stuff.
Both sides had very strong men and women. Working on the frontier from sun up until sun down. Nothing compared to most people of today. Without both sides working as hard as they did there would be no North America. Especially those were needed and mostly forgotten about.
True but Buffalo back then was a backwater with just a few hundred settlers. Only after it was selected as the western terminus for the Erie Canal did it take off as an industrial powerhouse.
Yeah history seems be written as pop culture changes throughout time.. you would think we can get an honest telling.. unfortunately politics always play a part in history telling. I’m hoping one day we can completely erase his woke movement from history. It is definitely one of the most embarrassing, mind numbing bizarre time.
I could tell from.the very first word that this has been narrated by Joe Montagna. I'm a professional historian and I'm 100% behind him being a regular narrator!!!!
I had I think three GGGG... grandfathers who fought in the battle of New Orleans. There names were Harmon, Castile, and Andrus. Very interesting 🤔. Thank you 😊
My Ancestor, Moses Pearsons, fought in this war and was at the battles of Lexington/Concord in the War for US independence. They were the the Andover Minutemen commanded by a rich man named Cadwallader Ford.
@@mrbaab5932 35 years between the start of two wars, not the end of one and the beginning of another Also, many who fought in the revolution, were in their teens, or younger, when they joined, and were of age and experience to be called up to be officers, in 1812.
My 6th great grandfather, Simon Fobes, also fought at Bunker Hill, Concord, and Lexington, , before being taken prisoner, Along with Benedict Arnold's troops, who survived boating and marching, from the Maine coast up to Quebec City, Canada. Their plans were thwarted, by a British spy in their midst, who left the group early in the trip, to report their plans to his superiors. At the time, Arnold was the best General the Colonies had , and was a long way from meeting the young and beautiful Peggy Shippen, who turned his coat, and related garments, and led him to ruin. Simon's account of all this is a chapter in the book, March to Quebec, by Kenneth Robert's. About a year after being captured, they were released in a prisoner exchange.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
My Uncle, ex-history teacher, was a Lewiston town official. I went there this past summer to honor him, as he had passed. It is a nice little village to visit.
My great great great great grandfather Ichabod Hall born in 1775 New Marlborough Massachusetts moved to Canada in 1795 died in the War of 1812 September 1814 fighting for the Oxford Militia
It's always disappointed me how poorly run our schools are in the States ESPECIALLY how history is taught! This how history should be taught! In-depth and extremely informative. Ask young people today when the war of 1812 was fought. Quite often the answers will disgust you with their stupidity.
Canadian here. This was the first and last war our two countries ever fought against each other: since then, we have been brothers and allies for over 200 years, and now co-maintain the longest undefended border in the world! It was the first war we fought as Canadians, not just British or French or Native warriors. We've fought together against aggressors, invaders, terrorists, and undemocratic oppressive regimes, side-by-side (with only two exceptions) ever since. My father was in the Canadian Army during the Cold War; his father was in the U.S. Army during the Great War. Hooray for our NATO, NORAD, and Anglophone (Five-Eyes) military alliances! Canada & America Forever!! 🇨🇦 X 🇺🇸
Unfortunately, your once great country is now a WOKE hell hole, taken over by a bunch of little dictators like Justin Tredeau! When are you going to take your country back?!
Same here. My father was a Canadian Militia Engineer during the Cold War, and HIS father was a Regimental Sergeant Major in the U.S. Army Artillery.....brothers-in-arms ever since!
🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇦🇺 🇨🇦 🇳🇿 The English Alliance, and our multilingual allies from NATO and our indigenous warriors: defenders of peace, democracy, and human rights!
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oooo, what fools you all are.
I like the time Jimmy Carter saved Canada from a nuclear meltdown. You should thank him before he dies.
Thank you for posting this. Nowadays there is too much reality tv on cable and i am glad to watch these type of history shows. I miss the good old days before reality tv took over. Love these types of history shows.
Thank you!
Should have quit TV decades ago.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
This isn’t a true story it’s a fictional . This was so stupid it’s almost hilarious.
Even the History channel barely shows any history.
My Great x3 James B. Young was a veteran of this war. This is the first doco I have seen about it, thank you!
I fought in the war, too.
This documentary on 1812 was awesome. I was on the edge of my seat through all of it. Reminded me of my JHS history teacher. MR. Root with the blue suit! What a good man.
I'm 70 y.o. American, always been astute and willing to hear and read, seeking to understand both sides of an argument. This is the first historical record of the subject matter I've been exposed to in my life! Makes me wonder where I've been all my life any way.
@krisfalkenberg Thank you for that! A True Heart. Out of a mist of Sorrows & Regrets, still listening Stillness whispering, whole Catacombs somber wakening sunset fireflies. Owel.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
IM 74 and I wonder what is going on in America? Not looking good, and I'm not even astute.
Look into the First National Bank of 1791. Who owned it ultimately, and what happened when they tried to recharter the 2nd National Bank in 1811. And again what happened when they tried to recharter the Bank in 1831 under Andrew Jackson and the epitaph on his tombstone.
Have a proper look at what really went on in the 1776 thing.
Didn't really like history when I was younger but after 50 I just can't get enough. Archeology. Wars Ancient history, Languages etc. Maybe a head injury I suffered at 49 has something to do with this.
im the same way I was self taught through documentaries, and magazines like archaeology, paleontology,ancient history, and now im into the james web space telscope, the universes. I love my lap top computer, but after all the watching on youtube I have wore out a half dozen of them
Same....
I believe we aren't meant to learn history at a young age.
Same. I don't know if its the way history is taught or what, but it wasn't very interesting in school. Now, I LOVE history.
I volunteer with a community archeological society, I so enjoy digging not knowing what I could find. Finds are incredibly exciting.
I'm from Texas. It's been a long time since I studied American History.
I appreciate this very fascinating review of the War of 1812.
What a wonderful program! I learned more about the War of 1812 from this program than I ever knew before. I am an American. I served in the US Marines for 20 years. During that time, I have worked with Canadians in your Army and Navy many times. I have nothing but deep respect and affection for our northern brothers and sisters. My wife is from Canada. She is a wonderful woman and we have a very happy union together, not very different from the great relationship our two countries have shared for nearly 200 years. God bless the people of Canada and the United States! May our friendship and good relations last forever.
Glad you enjoyed the program.
I live a mile away from a War of 1812 Cemetery. Thank you for preserving history.
I live in the country that the War of 1812 happened on.
My family lives in Youngstown NY and I’m Iroquois Six Nation it’s awesome to know my history of we’re our country begins
Your country began long before us "great white hunter's"" got here. Long before!!!
Upstate NY is gorgeous ❤
@@CandiceMMartinez so are you❤️
There was more to this war than I had been told or imagined. Thanx
What does severSTL mean?
Yes, it was not, 'a mere matter of marching'.
I'm an American and a Wisconsinite and a history buff. I just want to share my thanks to the people of Canada for this content and everything else. My only memory of Canada is on a week-long fishing trip for my grandparents 50th wedding anniversary at Lac Souel (or something to that effect) in Ontario. I was like 11 years old and caught the biggest fish of the entire party that week with a 33 inch Northern Pike.
I still have an old top to a pine tree that I found in the water and have used as a walking stick for many years. My first experience with poker...Great memories.
On Wisconsin ❤
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what a great story.
Sour.
ok thanks for your story, go back to ur shitty job @ Costco tomorrow
I remember a old song I use to hear on a jukebox back in the early 80’s when I was just a little kid. The song was called (Battle of New Orleans, in 1814) I was about 5yrs old and I thought it was the catchiest tune ever and played it a thousand times probably. Not knowing anything about that song until I was an adult and seeing this video just reminded me of that.
SAME HERE, except it was when it first came out that I did.
A terrific item. Search here and you'll find it to hear. I did a few weeks ago.
So . . . we both attend the same university! Graduation is at demise!!!
That was one song on a 12" LP.
The Linesman for the County was there too.
It is so wonderful to hear the Canadian side of this history. As a duel citizen of Canada and the USA, I congratulate PBS for an outstanding presentation.
Absolutely! At a time when many are busy abusing, distorting and spinning history, this is remarkable and refreshing for its balance. Thank you!
I had some Canadian friends in college. At some point, they brought up this war and battles Canadians won. Of course, as an American, I has no idea about any of that side of it. I knew Washington was burned but not much else.
PBS is the PILLAR of News Gathering and a Guardian of American History.
Awesome documentary, great quality. I have two grandfathers who served in this war. My 4th great grandfather Moses Tucker in 7th mounted regiment ky militia under Micah Taul. Then his father my 5th gg William w. Tucker of adair ky served under John Simpson's unit in john allens rifle regiment ky militia. William was killed at the battle of river raisin in 1813. His captain John simpson was said to have been killed immediately in a British counterattack.
Lastly, I have greatly enjoyed this documentary. Documentaries like this one should be used in schools. It is not a biased presentation which is key! Our public education system is now an unmitigated disastet by design so this documentary should be used in private, charter or parochial schools.
My 5th parental great grandfather his name was Charlie C. Woodruffe he fought in this war of 1812 on the British side after the war he was given 50 acre of land in British Guiana where he retire n started a sugar cane plantation and today we still lived on this land.
So cool man. Hope u have access to his personal journal
I’m sorry, but does your family come from Kentucky?
@@goochmcduck4285 no from Québéc and Haiti
@@user-kx7wo6qc7d what an awesome background.
@@goochmcduck4285 what about u ?
There is a plaque on the Dun Building in downtown Buffalo where i used to work which commemorates the location of Buffalo's first schoolhouse which was burned down during the war of 1812. Built in 1895, and at 10 stories, the Dun Building is considered Buffalo's first "skyscraper"
It was BUILT in 1895 and BURNED DOWN in 1812? 83 YEARS BEFORE IT WAS BUILT????????
@@MrRiddick225he clearly states the Dun building. But hey, what's reading anyway?
I went to elementary school at battlefield school. Site of the battle of Lundy's lane in 1814. We used to dig up old flints and musket parts in the field.
That must have been great exploring for that. (shame theyre too preoccupied with phones and computer games now)
I live in New York State. Kept a sailboat at Sackets Harbor. The War of 1812 is well remembered and noted there. An my wife and I went to Baltimore and took the ferry to Ft. McHenry. They have a video presentation of the war and, at the end, one wall telescopes and opens to face the huge US flag on a huge pole and the National Anthem plays. I (all 6'2" of me) stood there weeping while most of the other tourists wandered out and a National Park Ranger came up to me and shook my hand and said: "It hits me that way, too." Most citizens are spoiled to what being the United States cost our ancestors.
AMEN; hel* they can't even tell time on an actual clock, read nor write cursive, and certainly could care less about history or anything that isn't a show, a game, or an electronic/computerized device. The US has bred a generation of zombies.
Hope you don't go swimming off of Montalk.
I lived in Fells Point in Baltimore in the early 90s and the history of that area from that time period was fascinating. Little corner bars that were pubs and meeting places from that time still open. The city was reconstructing the cobblestone streets and people buying and remodeling the homes to the period. I found the history of the area to be very interesting. I would love to go back and see it today, especially after watching this program.
Who won? I should have gone right to end instead of listening to the entirety. I live on a 'indian' reservation. Tecumseh chose the wrong side. When will I learn to avoid the Propaganda Broadcasting System? These federalist democrat authoritarians hate the republic.
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its great federal hill especially we stopped by otw to florida the inner harbor has come along way
The Haitian soldier's were the worrior's of that war. Google Joseph savary and the Louisiana war. for more info
One of my best friends fought with 2, 100-year-old flint-lock guns back in 1813. That's a testimony of how slow the technological progress was when it comes to firearms.
One of my great grandpas (Wallace) fought in this war. He had to walk back home after surviving the war. While walking home and crossing a bridge he was robbed at gunpoint and shot and killed. Story is that he was buried beside that bridge.
That's awful! I'm sry to read that a man who fights in a war, survives, only to come home ( or not quite) to be killed by the very ppl he was fighting to protect... another citizen. A terrible tragedy I've heard many times and it never ceases to break my heart. You are his legacy and his reason to fight. A future for his family!
@@KrisRe_AnoRe I agree with your sentiment, but it's debatable if the person that killed him was among those he was fighting to "protect".
I live in Buffalo NY and you hear bits and pieces about the war.
I never knew the whole story until I watched this.
Who's Story?
2 minutes and 30 seconds in and I am convinced this is WELL worth the watch.
I live in Windsor Ontario. General Brock is a local hero here as we as Chief Tecumseh. One of our main roads is Tecumseh road and I went to General Brock elementary school. Definitely not forgotten in this neck of the woods.
Occidentali ! In ogni località c'è una via della Libertà
@@rosolinolosciuto3644 Dammi la libertà o dammi la morte!
Yeah General Brock and Chief Tecumseh met in Amherstburg at Fort Malden and that is where they agreed to help each other out.
My 5th GG is William Whitley.
It's not well taught in the U.S. guarantee you most Americans don't know that's when the star stangled banner came about and instead think it was the revolutionary War. Most of the 17th and 18th century wars are not taught because of the internal strife that followed, the Civil War period and manifest destiny. It's an American under dog story but they are right about one thing in this, the British sold out what was left of hope for Native Americans. What I don't understand is why the special sympathy for the conquered. It's not typical because history is full of the conquered, the Native Americans conquered each other constantly, it's sad when anyone loses their land but it was normal and people don't have a problem with it elsewhere. Mostly because the records are so long you couldn't possibly name the natives who were conquered. I would wager all of them at one point or another conquered and were conquered.
As an American I enjoy seeing history like this from another perspective.
I agree I'm a huge history junkie,but It is rare to see things from a different perspective
@@jamesmuncy3326 you should look up Laura Secord.
She fought with Canadian militias in 1812 and she did crazy rad S#it to stop an attempted invasion of Canada. Laura Secord is a straight BadAss, annnnd girls today don't care for some reason, will never understand women. Lol
FACT CHECK: at 7:06 he says "In 1810 The war was Pushed by the Republican party"
THERE WAS NO Republican party then.
The Republican party was created in 1854
Why not blame Donald Trump for the war of 1812?
THAT, is fucking rare my G. try pre 1400 history, is hip too you find out Canaan was palestine and everything, is the next step from 1800's
another perspective? why not look at history factual? or is factual the other perspective from the American perspective?
I think of myself as a good person of history. I have got to read about this. Mine is mostly ww2. This was amazing I learned a lot from this. Thank you.
Can you believe, I live about 10 miles from the war of 1812 cemetery outside of Buffalo and have never been there? I will make a point to go there before winter. I want to go to my great grandparent's grave (close to there) anyway.
Did you go?!!
WONDERFUL PIECE OF HISTORY I KNEW I WAS AWOKEN AT MIDNIGHT TO WATCH THIS. THANK YOU. TRIXIE, 86 YEARS OF AGE IN 4 DAYS, , SOUTH AUSTRALIA.
hope your bday was good. stay well
wow, you rarely see many 86 year olds in the comments. most 86 year olds have no clue what youtube is, nevermind how to leave comments. I hope you had a good birthday trixie, and I hope your 87th in two or three months is a good one too. Here’s to good health.
I hope your alive.
@@oliverwortley3822*rarely?
Excellent Film. Really appreciate that Tecumseh was a big part of the film.:)
He was a big-time Indigenous leader and uniter of native tribes across North America, had he lived and was successful in his aims, the outcome would have likely been much different to this day! Here on Ontario, he has an entire Township named after him, and our hero Sir Isaac Brock was so grateful, he gave him a personally-engraved medallion or something as a present!
Grew up in N.Falls,ON..at the foot of Lundy's Lane..we always found bits of 'war' in the exposed dirt hill behind Barker St. School...This is by far The Best doc Ive seen aboot 1812! Thank You from far away Denmark!!!
Fascinating and useful video. Ty!
Early in the pandemic I taught flute lessons over Zoom to a young woman who lived near Toronto. She enlightened me quite a bit about the Canadian defensive victory in 1812.
The only memory of the War of 1812 from my AP US History course long ago was that the British army had marched over undefended Maryland to burn down the White House. And of course The Star Spangled Banner.
Also, even though I married a young man from Cleveland, OH, I was unaware of the battles there.
I am learning history now. Better to know now than never. 😮
Canadians ENTIRE identity is based on the fact that they are NOT American nor are British. Canadians dont know what they are but they dang sure know what they are not! Canada is the 'white bread' of western nations! they are just kind of there!
Yea shows how govt will never give up power the BRITISH EMPIRE THE ROMAN EMPIRE NOW THE BIDE AND OBOMA TYRANICAL WHERE ARE THEY NOW.TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN TO MARTHERS VINYARD
Wonderfully interesting and well done doc. I think program's like this should be shown in all schools as a teaching aide. If course somebody will object to black soldiers and first nations losing rights and territories, but I think this has made history come alive 😊😊
@krisfalkenberg Whoa... what is 'superficial'?
Methinks thou doest err, my dear sir.
From the fathomless bottom of whosoever's mind doest thou so cogitate to generate such mischka bubbled thoughts,
or: ... "where'd you read this gibberish?" 🤓
Former teacher here. School administration will also object as they view films as lazy teaching. I think their arrogance and power trips have rotted their minds.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
This is the real history that amerika loves to bury - whining about so-called 'British tyranny' while holding Black chattel slaves and making massive profits off free free labor for centuries...
Tecumseh was a serious general and was trying to win the whole darn thing himself! Great documentary
And if he’d won, I would not have to put up with ungrateful white immigrants.
I really appreciate info from the historical Canadian perspective. Tecumseh was indeed a brilliant tactician - I loved his simple solution of too few Warriors - just parade them by more than once. Lucky there were so many trees! The disappointing part of this 'War' was the loss of the 'mitten' (Michigan) to the Native Warriors as compensation for their participation . It's the first time I understood our strange blip in our southern border.
He had no choice if he wanted his way of life to endure.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
He could not get the other tribes to jõin him , lucky for us !
My great grand father was born in 1813. My family lived in N.C. close to the Jacksons. They named my g. grand father after a young officer out of the war. My g.grandfather's name was Andrew Jackson Dunnagan from Hillsboro N.C.. He later went though the cuberlsnd Gap with Daniel Boone went to Tenn.. Patrick Dunnagsn
I loved reading about Andrew Jackson on the twenty dollar bill you can see the scare on his cheek when he was 12 the Brits ransacked the Jackson farm the father was gone and his mother was sick in bed but young jackson just didnt move fast enough cleaning the officers boots and so he took his sword and sliced Andrew down the cheek so Andrew and his mother had to walk a very long distance to a relatives his mother died shortly after from milk fever and Andrew Jackson joined the militia he was a drummer boy at first but soon became a good sniper and worked his way up until the battle of New Orleans when he finally got his chance to even the score for his mothers death. A lot of scores where settled in New Orleans at that time!
I recently became interested in the Second War of Independence, 1812 - 1815, when I read a statement by a famous 19th century author which was a snide remark against Old Hickory Jackson. And it's sort of ironic that I really admire most of the output of this author.
Instead of being the Governor of Louisiana, Gen. Pakenham was pickled in a hogshead of rum and sent back to Ireland for burial, as we all know. Some of you, historians, might know whether the rumor is true about General Pakenham's barrel of rum being missent to some tavern?
If so, their version of Happy Hour must've been Havoc when the clientele started questioning the rum's brackish quality and the gruesome truth was discovered.
Thanks, prior to watching this account of the War of 1812 , what I had know about it remained vague, but the way in which this narration of the war was parted out, helps instill a finer understaning of events leading up to it, what suceeded them, and how it ended.
@krisfalkenberg Thanks, artfully expressed in a succint manner.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
You know there are subjects where the lore is the only thing remembered.
But thank God,
For Historians
And those of us who love History and Science.
Good job all
And Thank You
Which is built out of mostly lore
God bless you preserving Science. =P
Yeah it's "His Story" and it's all fictional.
I grew up near Baltimore. I could have heard the bombardment of Fort McHenry from my house. A short walk up a nearby hill and I could have seen the bombs bursting in air.
By the time I was 14 I knew the story of the Battle of Baltimore, how important it was in restoring moral after the debacle at Washington. The same men who ran from the British at Bladensburg, held the line east of Baltimore.
Maybe the War of 1812 is little known, but for me it's an important part of our history.
Yup and I went to the same school as harry Potter and im n im now married with hermelijn and have 2 magic dragons that are living in our castle somewhere above a rainbow
@@robertkok3725 wtf?
Bull Run battle field in Manassas was literally ACROSS the road from me when I lived there in early 80s. Too bad I didn't care about anything regarding history then. Seeing how I just graduated highschool and partying was my main concern. I'm actually historical now it's been so long! Miss those Virginia days.
I'd be all over that battlefield if i lived there now.
Cigarettes were 50 cents a pack also in Manassas. Were way cheap.
I have fond memories of Patterson Park. Lived only a few blocks to the North of it.
young direct exposeure to history has a major affect on lifelong historical interests
Fantastic breakdown of a pivotal war! This really brings the War of 1812 to life!
As a child, the American Revolution held my heart- and as i aged, the wars the surrounded it became included: The French and Indian War, The Tripoli Pirate War, and the War of 1812 create a collection of ideas that define a continent for the next 250 years.
Absolute same.
@@b.r.holmes6365Google Joseph savary and the Louisiana war.for information on the Haitian soldier's in that war
The civil war completes the series. The conflict between the slave owner classes and the merchant classes ended in victory for the merchant side. This is why new england wanted to secede from the union at the time of the 1812 war, as it was a slaver's peace.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
I saw General Brock's coat that he was wearing when he was shot at a traveling exhibition that was at the Halifax Citadel at the time. It said no pictures... BUT I TOOK ONE ANYWAY! I guess the good General Brock's flippant and brazen attitude jumped right into me.
I saw it in the war museum in Ottawa when I was a little kid. He was my hero and I insisted that we see his monument at Queenston Heights when we were on holiday.
Lucky to have grown up 30 mins from the Mississenawa 1812 battlefield. They hold an amazing living history event there every year.
My 4th great grandfather was W H Harrison's staff officer during War of 1812.
Col. Robert Thompson Gilmore.
After the war he handled much of W H H correspondence, up until elected President.
That’s just a distant ancestor at that point, we all got them. Nothing special to read here folks.
@@Bdigital9482 relational proximity is arbitrary. How many of your 64 4x great grandparents served as officers in the War of 1812?
If you go back far enough you'll find an ancestor that did something like that. We all have one
I live in Waverly Ohio. The heart of the Shawnee. I live right on the Scioto River. Chillicothe has reenactments of the story of Tecumseh. A very popular showing. Chillicothe also has the yearly Feast of the Flowering Moons. 30 mins away is also the legendary Serpent Mound. Lots of History around this area a Ohio Valley. Shawnee State Forest is a beautiful place for hiking and horseback. Especially during the Fall times. Sad that this area has fallen to the Rust Belt issues that include poverty and drug epidemic.
I'm right there with ya, off the Scioto River (not in Waverly, but north of ya)! Ohioans like to talk about the war with Michigan more than the war of 1812, lol. The war humbled us a bit. British burned down our capitol, Canadians held us back. We almost lost our independence all over again because of our arrogance declaring war on Great Britain! We only like to remember the victories; not learning from ALL our triumphs AND mistakes. Oh well. Go bucks! ^_^
Sound very beautiful and I love that you are thinking about the native history in your area!
@@safeysmith6720 I love history. It's the instructions to our future. Whether we decide to learn from our mistakes or not.
Tons of history around the Great Lakes, fought over by British, French, Canadians, Americans, and various Native tribes! Forts galore!
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
I have a copy of the muster record of my paternal 4th great-grandfather who served in the War of 1812 with the Kentucky Mounted Militia.
It lists the personal items he brought with him into service including "a saddle, a flintlock rifle, a scalping knife, and a tomahawk."
Were they the ones sent to the River Raisin? I had a 5th great from KY who went, fought, and died at that battle
@@chairmanofthebored8684 let us know when that has any historical significance please?!
I laughed at someone who fell over yesterday... I still laugh now
That's funny how they call it a scalping knifw....r times have changed
@@TheHalfBlackReaper - no, my grandfather was part of the force raised in response to the Raisin River Massacre that served under the command of "Old Tippecanoe" William Henry Harrison.
He served in a Kentucky regiment of mounted riflemen led by Colonel Richard M. Johnson that assisted in the defeat of Proctor's British Regulars & Tecumseh's Natives at Ontario, Canada, in the Battle of Thames on October 5, 1813.
Very happy you picked the PBS version of The War of 1812. Unlike the Canadian version this one is accurate. It's fun to watch this two year piece of Canadian and American history. Canada grew up as a country and America got their national anthem. Remember too the US Constitution stated there would be no national armed forces. These battles changed that too.
It's told mostly from the perspective of Canada, the Indian natives both Canadian and the Brits! It's an excellent Doc. It also has a good story-line on Tecumseh's Iroquois Confederacy's participation. Didn't expect much and instead got a well rounded story of the war. Had great perspective from all sides of the nationalities involved. Usually you only see or read parts of this war. So having it all put together in such a well rounded way, was a real treat. I highly recommend it 🙂
Thank you! We are so glad you enjoyed it!
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
Its interesting to hear the perspective of the Canadians on the war of 1812. Thank you for this in-depth piece
Actually this was for PBS and it was an American film crew that came over here to film it. I actually think the film takes a very neutral stance on the war its just that some of the Canadian perspectives have never been openly discussed in many docs.
@krisfalkenberg
Listen...............
Do you hear it?.........
Oh, SORRY,
posted to the wrong person.
This is a fantastic presentation. The research, interviews, and quality of storytelling is superb. Thank you for the post.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Except for the fact that the Republican Party didn't even exist until 1854 so there's that critical detail. Could that have been intentional?
@@ci3008 The documentary is referring to the Democratic-Republican Party, which was also known as the Republicans--a completely different entity than the Republican Party of today. After the victory of Andrew Jackson, the party split into two: the Democrats and National Republicans, which later became the Whigs who later disintegrated and were absorbed into the modern-day Republican Party.
A very liberal take of events
@@ci3008the team that put this together is Canadian give them some slack.
But to your point the ruling party of the day was called the Republican Party in shorthand. If anything their mistake was not explaining that republican and democratic republicans are the same thing in this era
Documentrys using people not pictures are great viewing it shows the time spent on them .
This is truly an excellent documentary
GREAT JOB GUY'S 👍VERY IM FORMATIVE AND THE STORY LINE 👍VERY USEFUL...
I still love this....after many viewings. Great documentary movie!
@Danny Edelman
There was no Republican party in 1812. There was only a democrat/republican party(that is one party that later became the Democrat party). It's odd that he chose to say republican party instead of democrat party know that was a predecessor of the current Democrat party., but since it was something looked down upon he chose to say republican. He knew that most people don't know any better and would just accept that it was the republican party of today. Disingenuous historical revisionist. The media does this all the time. Y'all suck.. 🤮
@@scotyluv Y'all sound like a GOP/Republican.
Now I know why this history was not taught in school. What a tale! Thank you.
In short not only was it not an overwhelming win for Team USA, but also an embarrassment of not living up to our Declared and Constitutional ideals. As a 2nd generation Mick Veteran who grew up with tales about the evil English, I was awed, enlightened, and actually cheering how wise it was for the English to train freed slaves as British Marines. Never heard that before. Nor before have I heard as much about Tecumseh, and understand exactly why General Sherman's father named this warrior so eponymously.
This is a tale that I will watch many more times and look forward to reading more about.@@davidb271
Our pleasure.
I lived in Maumee Ohio literally across the street (River Road) from Fort Miami's, which overlooked the Maumee River, where the massacre took place (1813). It was an abandoned fort from the early 1790's controlled by the British, (associated with the battle of Fallen Timbers). But in the war of 1812 Fort Meigs was built (Feb,1813) in anticipation of continued British attacks along the Maumee, it was finished by the end of 1813, and not a moment too soon. The fort was impenetrable, as green lumber was used in making it - non-susceptible to fire arrows and it was also built on a bluff overlooking the Maumee River, rapids, the Fort held off a 5-day siege, until reinforcement arrived.
A replica fort is there today in now Perrysburg Ohio, lot of history there.
Hi p.j. Good to hear from a fellow Maumeeian(?) I know the area you lived quite well. There's a good chance we might have even known each other. Great post with one small error. It's Perrysburg...not Perrysville. Named for Oliver Hazard Perry who the vid referenced in taking the great lakes. Thx for the post and your right, the area is steeped in history around the 1800's.
@@jamesfay6543 Thank you for the correction!
The importance of the War of 1812 (which is sometimes underestimated or forgotten) is that it forged two nations in North America that have lived side-by-side and in peace ever since. For both Canada and the United States, the War of 1812 was formative in shaping the national identity of each.
Its biggest effects seem to clearly be the that standing armies might be required. And that identies were formed around a time when the boarders and lines weren’t fully settled. It’s definitely a great identity crises
Indeed, I believe it is the war which inspired the Star Spangled Banner!
@@intercommerce Yes it does, the video explains (from 1:36-1:39) that it was the British attack on Baltimore in September 1814 that inspired the Star Spangled Banner, the music hymn based on an old English drinking song.
@@siroptimistic and the french stayed in the bay to see who would win.. then helped them After the fact! (yes reallly)
also true that it was an old bar song! my father told me that years ago.. and as usual he was right..
@@BEAUTYnIQ Yes, the US anthem even sounds like a drinking song, and you can picture a bunch of people in a bar raising their beer mugs while singing the tune of this old English drinking-song.
My 4th GGF fought in this war for the British. He emigrated to Canada from Lyme, CT in 1800. His grandfather was a General on the US side. So, my 4th GGF fought against my 6th GGF. He was granted land in Ontario for his service.
Yes, I suspect many an American's ancestors fought against each other in the US Civil War too! My paternal grandfather was from NJ and fought for the US Army in WW1, alongside my countrymen in the Canadian Army, against the 'Gerries' !
Spectacular. I've watched it twice, and will watch again.
Glad you enjoyed it!
As one taught in the US public school system, I find this fact-based POV refreshing.
you must not have paid attention during AP history.
@@swishersweetprofessional8286 we had no AP classes at my high school in LA in the early 70s. And Canada did not feature much in world or US history.
they didn't teach you about it becuse this is a war you lost
@@valkyrie941 Yes, we know that, but the nature of the war is skipped over.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
I don't know much about 1812 . But I do know that ww11.
Not only did Canada send her son's to die on distant shores,
But they helped feed us afterwards.
We had nothing.
We don't just share a Queen. Canada is
Part of us.
(Sent from Coventry )
Yeah Turtle Island
The queen is dead. Abolish the monarchy.
I heard similar once in a documentary about WW2. Canadians volunteered to fight for their country and they didn't mean Canada...
My great Uncle Hector is buried in WW2 Brookwood Cemetery in your great country. Much love from Sudbury, Ontario, Canada. ❤
Tad long, almost skipped it for that reason, but watching this was VERY rewarding and well worth the time.
i'm loving it but i have to keep rewinding as i doze off, not through boredom just damn age I think (i would find that so frustrating watching my older relatives doze off sat in their chairs missing a good film, seems its my turn! now!) 😆😆😆
What a great telling of this war. Like most Americans, I knew virtually nothing about it. (BTW, I live in Tecumseh, Michigan.)
Thank you, you taught me much about the War of 1812 my high school and university instructors and professors failed to.
My ancestors and relatives fought on both sides of this tragic war- Americans and Canadians, Scottish, English, French,
Spanish, Natives, etc.
Thank you again. Happy New Year.
possibly because some things here are inncorrect
This is a very liberal outake of events
@@greenwave819 What things are incorrect?
@@brandonduarte6757 Could you point out specifically what conservative points were left out?
@@wanderinggeri8477 if you can't see you should maybe stop smoking those hormone blockers
The NAVY also named ships after Tecumseh a monitor during the Civil war, and a ballistic missile Submarine which was a James Madison class Sub.
Didn't do Tecumseh or the indigenous American Indians much good!
Educational (for me) I found this an excellent documentary. Recommended.
This is a very good program.💯💯
Wade Hampton was a Revolutionary War officer who served with Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion in South Carolina during the war in 1780-1782. His son, Wade II, served with Andrew Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans with distinction. His grandson, Wade Hampton III would be a famous Confederate cavalry officer who served with JEB Stuart.
That's my family Andrew Jackson
@@jacksonjackson2914 Jen Stuart is my family. Small world.
JEB STUART darn spell checker.😂
@@zackcantrell9689 thought you were a girl haha, happens to me all the time in damn spell check
@@bruceradz 😂
I remember studying the war of 1812 in American History class in high school in the early 1950's. It wasn't anything like this. It was sort of "Oh we fought Canada and Britain in the war of 1812". It was treated as more of a small skirmish. The Brits did burn the White House during the war.
And Rolf Harris song of course! 😆 Think we're beginning to find out a lot of history thats been hidden from us. Like more whites were kidnapped from coastal fishing villages (thats men women and children) by the islamic ottomans and back to North Africa Ottoman territory than blacks were ever taken across the atlantic to America. (Yep, kept that from us didnt they?) I learnt that from Dr Thomas Sowell, black American gentleman.
I just remember that song "in 1814 we took a little trip, along with cl Jackson down the mighty mississip.
We took a little beacon & we took a little beans..."
DLB, More specific the White House was abandoned by its tenants who took off from Washington when it seemed the British were arriving. They arrived under Major General Robert Ross who was at that time the youngest general in the army. He was an Irishman educated at Trinity college Dublin.
Because it was short English though they own everything back then
@@ccahill2322 The British also allowed people to leave their homes & take some possessions before they buildings were burned. It was considered good manners. The Americans did the same in Upper Canada.
Thank you for this exceptionally well-done and even-handed work.
Of course. Glad you enjoyed the film.
I don't remember 1812 war being mentioned in school,now i learned some part of hystory i was missing.👍
where did you go to school?If you didnt grow up on the east coast, i could see it not being a popular topic.
Wake up and pay attention!
Not a lot about the war is covered in school.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
Glad you phrased that as is not being learned as opposed as to it not being taught. There is a big difference.
Excellent. This small omission: the victorious general at Queenston Heights was Roger Sheaffe. After Brock's foolish death, Sheaffe cautiously waited for forces from nearby forts to arrive, lined them up in a traditional infantry line, and accepted the surrender of the numerically superior but demoralized Americans.
battle of Fort Stephenson 1813, a vastly numerically superior force of 3,300 British soldiers and their Native American allies lose to just 160 US soldiers, the British with a 20-1 numerical advantage lost the battle against the Americans
I always wondered about that too but after listening to a talk about Sheaffe at a history conference it was pointed out that Sheaffe's reputation was soured after retreating from York in 1813 and blowing up the powder magazine in order to cover his army's retreat. It was also mentioned that he was not a charismatic figure like Brock so was not as popular with the men who served under him.
@@larrybarnard4762 Yup. I only mentioned it because everyone talks about Isaac Brock, who got himself shot at Queenston Heights with his enthusiastic bravado; Brock got the statue and the University and so many Brock Streets; and no one mentions Roger Sheaffe, who won at Queenston Heights, with his more traditional approach; and got the ticket home merely because he retreated in the face of 2 to 1 odds at York, and preserved his force.
Exactly I agree 100 percent@@wendigo53
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
This was FASCINATING, Thank you .
Much Respect . 🤠🖖
Great documentary. I gotta say, makes me wish I was an American militiaman back then. =P (25:00)
to say the least: THIS has been the most thoroughly researched and cleanly laid out documentary i've watched in my whole life. no sides were taken, no overly emotional expressions used. this could be a proper example for any history student on how to write a proper paper about historic events. it's a fine piece of journalist work to me. no more, but surely no less by far! Great work!
Thank you for this masterpiece.
Tecumseh’s brother Tenskwatawa, had a local Chief named Leatherlips, executed for witchcraft, of all things, about 5 miles north of my home. This Chief was friendly with the local settlers and Tenskwatawa had Chief Roundhead, from up near present day Kenton, Ohio, come down to just north of Columbus and carry the execution out. He hadn’t done himself any favors by not agreeing to unite with Tecumseh and his coalition of tribes. One of Tecumseh’s tomahawks is still on display at Adena-the home of Ohio’s first governor, Thomas Worthington. His name mean’s, roughly, Panther Crossing the Sky as he was born on one of the extremely rare passings of Haley’s comet. He was a giant of a man among men. (Figuratively speaking). What a great video about a chapter in our history that was barely touched upon in MY primary school years-1970-1976. I doubt it is even taught nowadays. (I hope I am wrong about that) but I had to get a BA in early American history to find out more. ❤️✌🏼
Indeed!
Stop with the God Damn Music that is drowning out the Narrator that I prefer to hear,not that stupid music
that you have so loud. What is the point of it anyway.
@Michael Cote Made me laugh out loud as I sit here waiting to head into the office at 630!👍😂
Coming from someone who grew up in Michigan didn't appreciate 8th grade History class im 43 and I can comprehend alot better now then I use too when I was a Lil kid! I just love all of these presentations on history I see the press had influence on the war, citizens thought of war much hasn't changed. Lije they said when the Natives whooped ass its pressed a massacre. When white people won it was a great thing ! So I'm sure that has helped many to dislike Natives for many generations I'm sure the same thing happened with Africans justifying the chains and whips I feel if the press could just have been honest yesterday today and tomorrow United States as a country would be nicer!
Interesting that you say " giants" I live up in Kenton Ohio. There's hearsay that Chief Leatherlips and his brother Chief Roundhead we're both part giant. 7-11ft I guess?. Now I'm not saying that I believe that but I do find it interesting nonetheless. Heck, Martin VanBuren an the Seville Ohio giants story is a good one. Anyhow back on point, witchcraft has alot of history in this part of the state. Kenton used to be known as " the most magical town in the world" believe it or not. Back in those days even being a magician was considered witchcraft. The IBM " international brotherhood of magicians" actually started here. I'd like to know the exact type of witchcraft that his brother was guilty of practicing. Anyhow, sorry to blow this reply up just found your comment interesting
Chief Black Hawk has a War of 1812 veteran's bronze plaque marking his grave in the Iowaville Cemetery east of Eldon, Iowa.
So sad for your people.I am Maori,from Aotearoa,The British robbed us big-time, thriving on our prime land,leaving Maori,to languish in the gutter.
@RayOKeefe-cm4zy The Maori are famous first forward warriors. I have ultimate respect for your land and people. It is hard not to hold a grudge in this lifetime, for lands stolen before we were born. I struggle to let it go, to not harbor hatred about long ago crimes. Yet we have to stand for justice, for strength and truth. Beautiful lands, hot, happy days on the river here! Thanks for the comment.
@@iowablackhawk7091 Respect to You an all Yours,I have to let go what has gone on,like you say,Before we were born,or else I cannot move forward,All the very best @iowablackhawk7091. 👊✊
As a Brit I should like to say that was a fascinating history, very well told.
I remember seeing a plaque mentioning the 1812 war in Buffalo on my first visit to the States in 1978. It was the first I had heard of it. Although I knew the "Battle of New Orleans" song, covered in the UK by the late Lonnie Donegan in 1956, I hadn't twigged the significance of "In 1814 we took a little trip....".
So Britain fighting on two fronts at the time, Napoleon and USA.
What is really interesting about this conflict is it is doubtful it would have ever occurred if it was not for the war going on in Europe. Oh and as I side note I was an extra in this film. I am a Canadian war of 1812 reenactor but dressed up to represent both sides during this film.
@@larrybarnard4762 Awesome! Do you still engage in living history?
Yes I am the Sgt./safety officer of our unit. Living history is a great past time. Camping, reenacting historical events and sharing knowledge with the public. @@b.r.holmes6365
Napoleon was fighting on many fronts at the same time fighting entire massive European coalitions Napoleon had to fight against Prussia, Russia, Austria, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, several German states, several Italian states, the Ottoman Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the French Monarchy, and many others, the US also largely fought the war of 1812 on its own while the US had to fight against not only the British empire but also their Canadian Militia, and Native allies, the US also had to fight against the the American born Loyalists to Britain who fled to Canada after the British lost the revolutionary war also known as the United Empire Loyalists, the US also had to fight the African soldiers who were allied to the British and the US also had to fight the Spanish in Florida during the war of 1812
I pay my respects to Chief Tecumseh every year at his memorial site on the side of the Thames River on Highway 2 (Longwoods Road) just outside of Moraviantown
I'm very close to old Stoney Creek crazy to think how this war is remembered in Canada and unsettling that the natives after in both Canada and the USA loss so much there culture there land I'm also amazed to hear from so many Americans that don't get the full historical fact of the war of 1812
It's not that we don't get it, our schools don't teach us the true facts. They sugar coat everything and give a poor overview of our historical fuck ups
Canadian here. I live across the lake from you. I think the reason Americans don't all know about it is it was a much bigger deal for us than it was for them. It was a relatively short, small-scale war, where their country was not under threat, unlike the civil war, revolutionary war, or world wars. Plus, they probably downplay it since they lost. Had they won, they'd likely teach it in all the schools, and we'd be US citizens! Instead, the status quo remained unchanged after it was over, so no biggy to them. For us, the birth and salvation of our nation!
@@intercommerce The brits lost the war of 1812 in every way, sorry the canadian school system has done a false history rewrite on this war. Canada didn't control its foreign policy until the 1930's learn your own history. And Britian did not recognise its soverenty until the 1980's
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
Great production should be taught at all schools
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Great historical investigations. I am really enjoying your intelligence together:)
So just out of curiosity do you believe this channels version of events to be 100% accurate and true? Or are you just saying you enjoyed the presentation?
Happy that Canada gets to tell this story! Very frustrating that no one knows about this war 1812.
Intelligent people know the history because to forget it means repeating it.
Speak for yourself!
Indeed, but Canada was not a Country then. The US invaded a (mostly) part of the British Empire and Fought British Subjects, Not Canadians.
@@firestorm8471 Yeah. America had to remind them of 1776 again. (now we have to remind our own government)
@firestorm8471 That's irrelevant and slightly pedantic. They were the ancestors of modern day Canadians raised and living on the same land and under the same laws that their descendants hundreds of years on still live under, and they were fighting for the future that Canadians have now and are proud of. For all intents and purposes they absolutely were Canadians. If your only talking about the name to be technical that's fine, but I see people say this in an attempt to try to downplay or take away from Canadian history and it really doesn't hold up
I love learning about history! Great documentary!
The war of 1812 gave America its Lebensraum. Now all they needed to do was initiate a genocide for the locals, and Final Victory is achieved. =/
@Danny Edelman
There was no Republican party in 1812. There was only a democrat/republican party(that is one party that later became the Democrat party). It's odd that he chose to say republican party instead of democrat party know that was a predecessor of the current Democrat party., but since it was something looked down upon he chose to say republican. He knew that most people don't know any better and would just accept that it was the republican party of today. Disingenuous historical revisionist. The media does this all the time. Y'all suck.. 🤮
This was an interesting, and previously unknown part of the War of 1812. As a youngster I recall being taught about Fort McHenry, and General Andrew Jackson and the Battle of New Orleans ... and living in New Orleans at the time we were taken on field trips to the Chalmette Battlefield - some 15 miles on the outskirts of the City of New Orleans proper. The Canadian etc aspects weren't part of the curriculum.
Canadians are well aware of the war of 1812, all along the St Laurence river there are monuments from that war
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One of my ancestors trained the Voltigeurs. I saw his red coat in the Redpath museum in Montreal.
@@GizmoFromPizmo A typo error
@@GizmoFromPizmo Saint-Laurent
Sad to see how the Natives were treated in both the USA and Canada, helps to explain a lot of what we suffer today as a Nation in Canada.
I live in Western NY, and came up hearing stories or seeing historic places, but never knew what events actually transpired. I had no clue that the very city i'm from (Buffalo) was basically burnt to the ground during said war. Interesting stuff.
Both sides had very strong men and women. Working on the frontier from sun up until sun down. Nothing compared to most people of today. Without both sides working as hard as they did there would be no North America. Especially those were needed and mostly forgotten about.
I'm from buffalo NY too! I never knew that either!
@@M5StAr.2.0 You ever been up to the old Fort Niagara? Super interesting.
True but Buffalo back then was a backwater with just a few hundred settlers. Only after it was selected as the western terminus for the Erie Canal did it take off as an industrial powerhouse.
@@josephtemple1667 You're right about that. But still, I wonder what the cityscape was like back in those times. It was probably interesting as hell.
History is a funny thing. There are as many versions of it as there are participants. Thanks very much!
Awesome comment. I love that
Yeah history seems be written as pop culture changes throughout time.. you would think we can get an honest telling.. unfortunately politics always play a part in history telling. I’m hoping one day we can completely erase his woke movement from history. It is definitely one of the most embarrassing, mind numbing bizarre time.
Brilliant live thank you girl n guy’s and Rev really good towards the end of stream ✊❤️👍🇬🇧
I could tell from.the very first word that this has been narrated by Joe Montagna. I'm a professional historian and I'm 100% behind him being a regular narrator!!!!
“It’s joe Montana you idiot” 🤣
I had I think three GGGG... grandfathers who fought in the battle of New Orleans. There names were Harmon, Castile, and Andrus. Very interesting 🤔. Thank you 😊
My Ancestor, Moses Pearsons, fought in this war and was at the battles of Lexington/Concord in the War for US independence. They were the the Andover Minutemen commanded by a rich man named Cadwallader Ford.
He fought in two wars separated by 35 years?
@@mrbaab5932 that’s how they have his record. Remastering veteran troops in 1812 was still a thing I guess.
@@mrbaab5932 35 years between the start of two wars, not the end of one and the beginning of another
Also, many who fought in the revolution, were in their teens, or younger, when they joined, and were of age and experience to be called up to be officers, in 1812.
My 6th great grandfather, Simon Fobes, also fought at Bunker Hill, Concord, and Lexington, , before being taken prisoner, Along with Benedict Arnold's troops, who survived boating and marching, from the Maine coast up to Quebec City, Canada. Their plans were thwarted, by a British spy in their midst, who left the group early in the trip, to report their plans to his superiors. At the time, Arnold was the best General the Colonies had , and was a long way from meeting the young and beautiful Peggy Shippen, who turned his coat, and related garments, and led him to ruin. Simon's account of all this is a chapter in the book, March to Quebec, by Kenneth Robert's. About a year after being captured, they were released in a prisoner exchange.
I'm half drunk and smoking Cannabis just trying to feed my love for history from Albuquerque New Mexico, USA
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Please get sober. I know it has been normalized, but it is path of destruction for the human soul. Do better for yourself! You got this
We had a small battle in my home town in this war. It was called The Battle of Ogdensburg. The town was taken by the British.
Why didnt you stop them
@@changopardomuzik4953 lol
@@changopardomuzik4953 maybe they hoped the Brits could spruce up the place? Worth a shot wasnt it?
There is a place too in America where we remember the War of 1812. Baltimore, Maryland. (Fort McHenry)
Battlefield in New Orleans
Johnny Horton did his part.
What a crock. The reason for the War of 1812 was the refusal of the US Gov't to accept the rechartering of the British Crown owned National Bank (1791) - the Second National Bank (1811), which was again rejected by President Andrew Jackson (1831) who's tombstone epitaph reads " I killed the Bank". Jackson was quoted for saying, "You are a den of thieves and vipers, and by God I shall route you out". They killed Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and JFK for the same reason. Always Follow the Money.
My Uncle, ex-history teacher, was a Lewiston town official. I went there this past summer to honor him, as he had passed. It is a nice little village to visit.
Thank you for sharing this! Amazing production value and a wonderful listen.
My great great great great grandfather Ichabod Hall born in 1775 New Marlborough Massachusetts moved to Canada in 1795 died in the War of 1812 September 1814 fighting for the Oxford Militia
It's always disappointed me how poorly run our schools are in the States ESPECIALLY how history is taught! This how history should be taught! In-depth and extremely informative.
Ask young people today when the war of 1812 was fought. Quite often the answers will disgust you with their stupidity.