Martin Logan Expression 13A & full Naim setup
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- A short video of the Martin Logan Expression 13A hybrid loudspeakers.
A full Naim setup was connected to these speakers. Music was streamed with Qobuz and Tidal through a Naim NDX2 streamer.
Video was made at The Hifi Studio Number One in Leiden.
Setup (as far as i know):
Naim NDX2 streamer
Naim NAC 552 preamplifier
Naim 555 PS DR power supply
Poweramps not sure
Audioquest wiring
Apple iPad with Qobuz and Tidal
Songs played are visible in the video, i do not own any of the rights of the songs.
Video was made with an iPhone 11.
Sounds so good , they really opened up in that room ,
Thank you so much, but what i did notice was that the bass was so much better when you were standing instead of sitting. Maybe personal flavour, i like bass a lot.
My only issue with ESL is the lack of attack. It doesn't really "slap". Rather it smooths out everything. That's great for classical, jazz, reggae etc But for rock, I still go back to my Klipsh's. The accuracy in reproducing grungy guitar sounds and metallic percussion is out of this world. With ML ESLs rock music is just too smooth.
Maybe your components are warmer than you thought, because from what I can tell, these speakers are very revealing and transparent.
Awesome job, I have 13a and c18 / wonder why did you choose naim over others ?
@@Kam87GT its not my setup, this is in a store in Leiden it was their choice for this setup.
@@verdiodh thanks for sharing/ what do you got ?
@@Kam87GT no problem. My own setup is not that big: Harbeth P3XD’s, SMSL AO300 (chifi but pretty ok) and an Argon TT turntable with a Ortofon 2M Red, wiring is Audioquest Slip 14/4, Supra Anniversary Phonocable, Supra powercable. I will buy a new streaming device asap.
@@verdiodh awesome Enjoy
@@Kam87GT thank you, you as well of course.
Martin-logan.... 🍺👍🔈🔊...... !
I heard these the other day at Magnolia and was totally blown away by them. I now own Revel Salon 2 speakers and thought they would be my last speakers, but these really do make me have second thoughts about that. Over 20 years ago, I owned a pair of Martin Logan speakers, forget about all the old generation Martin Logan speakers of the past, these and the 15A speakers are on an entirely different level. I didn't perceive the sound as being blown out of proportion, and I did hear fine detail and was able to hear individual instrument within the soundstage. Huge, full sounding soundstage, excellent bass, fine detail and transparency, great dynamics, fine natural tone, plenty of air and holographic effect, not to mention the superb integration between the different drivers, which, in the past, was always a draw-back in their overall performance. I strongly believe that I could actually live with these for the long haul. These are absolute word class speakers.
Sounds really good. I like the voicing of Martin Logans, esp the 13A
They sound wonderful and very open but arent my personal favourites.
@@verdiodh what are your personal favorites?
@@JTHAMMER12 speakerwise? Harbeth P3esr XD’s
Wow, outstanding.
i have a naim nait 5si that will go with sonus faber speakers ,coud i use the same naim with a smaller martin logan electostat like the Martin Logan ElectroMotion ESL X in future if i saved money.
the bass on the Martin Logans is not precise, but it tends to overfill even when there is no need. When there would be a song with an even more pronounced bass, the bass on the Martin Logans will definitely go down. I am always of the 'idea that less bass is better if it is not good than an inaccurate bass.
So nice to see a more recent showing of the Masterpiece Series. May I say? I have the Classic ESL 9's which are the entry level to this series. My brick and mortar store paired them with a Parasound A-21 and P6 2.1 preamp.
With 400W per channel, the smallest in this lineup can play louder then you can stand it, and bass that will shake the room and your seat! I can't say enough about the seamless transition between the stat and the bass module. GOOD orchestral recordings show very wide and tall imaging in my 18x24' space dedicated to the system.
The room has nothing in it but ATS panels for a little sound absorbtion, one leather sofa and coffee table at the far end about 20' back from the speakers. They are set up to spec by Martin Logan. 25" from side walls and 3.5' into the room with the rear of the bass module about 12" from the front wall. It is by far the finest, most neutral sounding system I have ever owned, AND, with a minimal amount of equipment to make it all happen.
Again, thanks for the nod toward ML (O:
@Gary Smith, thanks for chiming in. I own a pair of Aerius i’s and am unsatisfied with the bass. I upgraded from a Carver AV405 to a pair of Emotiva XPA-1 Gen 2 monoblocks, but still not enough bass.
The Classic ESL 9 are most likely my next set of speakers. Have you bi-wired or bi-amped yours? If so, what were the results?
They sound great !
Buonasera a tutti. Ho solo delle Ascent che, nel loro piccolo, fanno già capire la bontà dei progetti ibridi Martin Logan. Soundstage e gamma media sono eccellenti, per le voci è difficilissimo trovare qualcosa di meglio di questi elettrostatici. I miei suonano ottimamente con soli 20 watt in classe A. Luxman però.
I had hope, but alas, the mic is too far back if your camera is any judge. Ears, and by extention, the mics are supposed to fall within the innermost 1/3 of the panel.
There was a proper listening position recorded with a set of ML Odyssey's playing, up on youtube a few years back but it's gone missing...
I just record it from near the seat and for fun. I just want the system to be shown on the screen. But i havent recorded anything in a year. Thanks for the comment
Even that wont do them the justice they deserve. You have to hear them in person. I've got old school models that pale in comparison, but still... they are fun.
What is the name of those diffusers in the back?
Esperio curve diffusers. By Rivasono (Netherlands).
@@hjonker6161thank you sir!
Is it possible to upload more videos of ml plays metallica? Ml is extremely good at jazz, blues and other 'not complicated music' but it's interesting how do they manage with metallica and symphony?
I will try within the near future, i just record what i like and what is available in the store that i visit. I am just an enthousiast that visits audiostores within my region but soon i am visiting other stores in the Netherlands. And i played Metallica S&M2 because the mrs and i are Metallicafans and i like to play music in videos that you normally wont hear in videos or in shops. I like to be different musicwise. Thank you for you comment 👊🏻
@@verdiodh oh. I didn't check your channel before I wrote my comment, sorry. Anyway thanks for your uploads and sharing your experience with us. But if you'll ever come across that ml again - play some metallica for them ;-)
@@olvolrus first of all welcome to my channel. And if i ever come across a ML system i will make a new video of course with Metallica 🤘🏻 but the first new video will hopefully be a Kharma/Goldmund setup but due to the whole covidsituation its much more difficult for me to visit stores. And thank you for the compliment. I’m doing the best i can with just my iPhone 11.
Is there a big difference between 11A and 13A ?
Mostly sizewise. The 11 has 2 8 inch subs and 11 inch transducer, the 13 has 2 10 inch subs and a 13 inch transducer. The 11 goes to 24 hz and the 13 to 22 hz. Those are the main differences.