I live in Lawrence, KS where these are built and had the pleasure of listening to these bad boys for an entire evening in their listening room of their office. It was a life changing experience.
I remember my first ML experience at Kief’s on Iowa. Loved that place. Miss it. Wish there was a place like it in Lawrence still. They were playing Norah Jones, and it must have been on vinyl. They had a crazy setup. It was astonishing. Wish I remembered what it was. Would love to work for ML now!
I auditioned these beauties at Safe and Sound as well - and much like seeing my first Lamborghini Countach in 1985, it was an experience never to be forgotten!
I would LOVE to audition these in person. I bet they sound phenomenal! Love Martin Logan ESL’s, and personally believe them to be the finest sounding speakers available. It just boggles the mind that they went up in price $40,000! At launch 8 years ago, they were $80,000, now they’re $120,000! Why the insane price increase? Still gotta love the way they look (and sound). Simply stunning!
🤗SHANE,I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MUCH BETTER,THEY SOUND THAN THE 🤩🤩 AMAZING STATEMENTS , I HEARD YEARS AGO,DRIVEN BY TWO HUGE MACS😎 A LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCE BACK THEN 💚💚💚
Going off my experience hearing Martin Logans Electro Stats the first time, they don't disappear! The music just appears in between them! And you're left looking at the empty space expecting the images to come into vision. I love them
@@pedrocols indeed ... Absolutely love Electrostats .... Neoliths are well beyond me at present but. Someday ... Perhaps there ARE people who save up .... I know I would love to own a pair someday
Hello Shane! VERY happy to see you edit and get this presentation up so quickly. I was the fellow with the white beard hangin' with Allan and Andrew for quite a while (and probably getting in your way LOL). I am sorry my buddy would not take the microphone for an interview about the Foundation F2's. Guess he is a bit shy. Good news, that he is buying a pair once I help him get his room setup at home. He will be coming to my place this Friday to audition my setup. Should be a good time. He will hear: (from Safe and Sound), the Classic 9's paired with the Parasound Halo P6 pre A21 amp and a Dynamo 1600x. Can't leave out the horns, so there are the Klipsch Forte' 4's and tube gear as well. It's a good sized space at 17x24' dedicated / uncluttered for 2.1 listening. I have known Dave and his dad at the audio shop for a number of years, and so fortunate to live only 8 miles down the road from such a wonderful place with great audio products. It really is like going to an audio SHOW inside! Thanks again for being there, and you now have a new subscriber 🙂 PS. if in the future, you want to use any footage with myself in the camera's view for your use from that day, feel free to do so!
They look very imposing in such a small room. I'm not in the same league with other ML afficianados but I did just steal a pair of the Motion 15i from Best Buy for $400. I'd best describe them as loving music and they sing beautifully. I first bought the white ones but my wife did not like them. Got the red walnut and she fell in love with the color and design.
My thoughts exactly. You would think for $120K, there could be some sort of integrated retractable dolly system to allow them to move and still sit flush on the ground. I'm sure it wouldn't be the hardest thing to do. But who am I to critique speakers that cost half as much as the house I live in? I am but a simple peasant to anyone who has the disposable income to buy these.
I came very close to the sound of the M-L Neolith with a pair of the Martin-Logan Quests circa 1993. I biamped them with a Krell KSA150 on the woofers and a pair of McIntosh MC275 Gordon Gow Commemorative tube amps wired as monoblocks for the panels. The panel, while not quite as large as the Neolith, is still BIG at 48” x 16”. Along with a husky 12” woofer in a sealed box crossed over at 125Hz these babies could really scale with all the attributes you’d expect from an electrostatic. On the used market, the Quests (and the essentially similar Quest Z and ReQuest) are commonly available for $2000/pr or less. When biamped, the Quests can give you 80-90% of the sound of the Neolith at 1.7% of the price. Just sayin’..
Well if you have Martin-logans....you Know...I have the Martin-logan SUMMITS... and well if I win the lottery ..Yes I want these and you have to come help me set them up.... 🥃🔈🔊🔊.... !!
I've heard the Neoliths at my local Best Buy Magnolia Audio Video on many occasions, and I must say, they are absolutely one of the best on the planet, at any price!!! I also love and own Hegel (H590 integrated).
When Shane mentioned that Birds track, I paused the video, fired up my Linn Akurate system playing into my DIY world audio design KLS6's and yeah, I could hear the bird wing flaps in the background no problem. This is an incredibly dynamic recording, sounds excellent. Thanks Shane for mentioning it.
30 years ago I a pair of CLSs in my apartment, but with upgraded ladders. I really liked the coherence and especially that they were see thru, unlike Maggie 3.5Rs which I owned much later, but their door- like non-see through shape bugged me, but although the CLS panels were large, they were still a head in the vice experience. While $120000 is way beyond my budget, it is down right cheap compared to the MBLs. I have heard neither of these but I have Emerald Physics 3.4s, open baffle, 12" concentric driver with 1" polyester tweeters, outboard XOs and IMHO disappear. EP also made 2.8s which added 2 @15" woofers MSRP ~ $10,000. FOR THE REST OF US, THEY WOULD BE A SCORE
Make a new version of CLS IIz please. Price when discontinued: $5,995.00. It was great sound powered by original Mark Levinson electronics and Velodyne subwoofers. For now I'm happy with ESL-63 and REL Acoustics.
Wait for it... Here it comes... $120K!?! I could build like.... ZERO. I can build ZERO speakers cause well, I'm not a F&*$*^G carpenter. Thanks for showing us these Shane! I remember hearing a pair of ML electrostatic speakers YEARS ago. I haven't heard anything like them since. Do you still have your ML ESLX?
@@therealshanelee Yup! Lol. I didn't catch your watch today. I had Hamilton envy during your NAD vs Technics review and went and got one. (At least I THINK it was a Hamilton.) Cheers!
@@DarrenKrusi oh I'm aware. It's a sh#t show over there 🤦🏻♂️ Some folks can't just sit back and appreciate or know how to hate on things by themselves.
Hey! That place is 15 minutes away from me! I'm going to have to check it out. Is this place new? I knew there was a Safe and Sound near by, but it looked like a little hole in the wall, in Google maps..
@@therealshanelee Those Martin Logans are a little out of my price range. Hopefully I can still get by with my Tekton Moabs, if I ever hear them in person 😅
Would love to hear these but i can’t unsee them looking like giant cheese graters ever since someone pointed it out. Definitely not my taste in style but I’m sure they are amazing.
SoundLabs charges $45,000 for their Ultimate 745 full range electrostats. To pay almost 3 Times the price for a hybrid with a compromising moving coil transducer is ridiculous.
@@erics9754 For subs I'd prefer the Acoustic Elegance, 18 inch Dipole Woofers, 4 per channel, crossed over below 50Hz, 4th Order, low level. Cost about 2 grand a channel, exclusive of amplification. But compared to 120,000 bucks, a steal.
What I find incredulous is that for a one hundred and twenty thousand pounds pair of speakers, the biggest talking point was their looks and the range of colours they were available in.
Bonjour j ai acheter ,une enceinte Cinema Electrostatic Loudspeaker Systeme ,Motif ,mais je ne sais pas comment le brancher sur mon ampli. J ai vue qu il ya deux sortie rouge et noire a l arriere (,signal input ..).Est ce que c est de la que je doit brancher mes cables d enceinte a mon ampli ?.Pouvez vous m aider svp ?
Her albums have such amazing production. Everything sounds true to the source but very clean. Her vocals sit in a tough spot in the mix due to her tone so spacing of instruments are key. These albums can demonstrate such a great soundstage. Highly recommended.
My Soundlabs dwarf these little guys mine are 9ft tall and almost 4 ft wide. I paid 16 grand used and 6 grand for my two big REL subs and I guarantee they blow these away.
I live in Lawrence, KS where these are built and had the pleasure of listening to these bad boys for an entire evening in their listening room of their office. It was a life changing experience.
They're amazing.
"Life changing." Well said!
I remember my first ML experience at Kief’s on Iowa. Loved that place. Miss it. Wish there was a place like it in Lawrence still. They were playing Norah Jones, and it must have been on vinyl. They had a crazy setup. It was astonishing. Wish I remembered what it was. Would love to work for ML now!
About time someone did a full video about the Neolith.. 👍🍾
Those are amazing speakers! Thanks for taking us with you on the demo - really cool to see something like this!
amazing price too🤣
Amazing staff. Imagine this in surround.
I auditioned these beauties at Safe and Sound as well - and much like seeing my first Lamborghini Countach in 1985, it was an experience never to be forgotten!
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I would LOVE to audition these in person. I bet they sound phenomenal! Love Martin Logan ESL’s, and personally believe them to be the finest sounding speakers available.
It just boggles the mind that they went up in price $40,000! At launch 8 years ago, they were $80,000, now they’re $120,000! Why the insane price increase?
Still gotta love the way they look (and sound). Simply stunning!
Be right back just have to put my house on the market 😅🤣
Don't do that. They have financing 💳 Tell them I sent you and you'll save 2% 💪🏽
@@therealshanelee😂😅
Well said.
🤗SHANE,I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MUCH BETTER,THEY SOUND THAN THE 🤩🤩 AMAZING STATEMENTS , I HEARD YEARS AGO,DRIVEN BY TWO HUGE MACS😎 A LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCE BACK THEN 💚💚💚
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Going off my experience hearing Martin Logans Electro Stats the first time, they don't disappear! The music just appears in between them! And you're left looking at the empty space expecting the images to come into vision. I love them
The next $120,000 I can come up with is going to a set of these! 😂
Sign me up also...lol...what a joke...lol
@@pedrocols the customer for these doesn't have to "save up" $120k
@@DrakenRS78 That's clear as water my friend. They already built these for a specific target customers.
@@pedrocols indeed ... Absolutely love Electrostats .... Neoliths are well beyond me at present but. Someday ... Perhaps there ARE people who save up .... I know I would love to own a pair someday
I just heard these this weekend at MWAVE in Kansas City in a big room. I was blown away!
Hello Shane! VERY happy to see you edit and get this presentation up so quickly. I was the fellow with the white beard hangin' with Allan and Andrew for quite a while (and probably getting in your way LOL). I am sorry my buddy would not take the microphone for an interview about the Foundation F2's. Guess he is a bit shy. Good news, that he is buying a pair once I help him get his room setup at home. He will be coming to my place this Friday to audition my setup. Should be a good time.
He will hear: (from Safe and Sound), the Classic 9's paired with the Parasound Halo P6 pre A21 amp and a Dynamo 1600x. Can't leave out the horns, so there are the Klipsch Forte' 4's and tube gear as well. It's a good sized space at 17x24' dedicated / uncluttered for 2.1 listening.
I have known Dave and his dad at the audio shop for a number of years, and so fortunate to live only 8 miles down the road from such a wonderful place with great audio products. It really is like going to an audio SHOW inside! Thanks again for being there, and you now have a new subscriber 🙂 PS. if in the future, you want to use any footage with myself in the camera's view for your use from that day, feel free to do so!
Hey nice meeting you! I'm sure your friend will love the speakers.
Big Review. Good interview and job.
I need two pair
They look very imposing in such a small room. I'm not in the same league with other ML afficianados but I did just steal a pair of the Motion 15i from Best Buy for $400. I'd best describe them as loving music and they sing beautifully. I first bought the white ones but my wife did not like them. Got the red walnut and she fell in love with the color and design.
imlol $120000 with a $5.00 cast iron wheels
My thoughts exactly. You would think for $120K, there could be some sort of integrated retractable dolly system to allow them to move and still sit flush on the ground. I'm sure it wouldn't be the hardest thing to do. But who am I to critique speakers that cost half as much as the house I live in? I am but a simple peasant to anyone who has the disposable income to buy these.
They actually have spiked feet. The casters were used in store to move around for customers to make swapping speakers easier for auditions.
TBF , it doesnt need Apple bs priced kind of wheels lol
I came very close to the sound of the M-L Neolith with a pair of the Martin-Logan Quests circa 1993. I biamped them with a Krell KSA150 on the woofers and a pair of McIntosh MC275 Gordon Gow Commemorative tube amps wired as monoblocks for the panels. The panel, while not quite as large as the Neolith, is still BIG at 48” x 16”. Along with a husky 12” woofer in a sealed box crossed over at 125Hz these babies could really scale with all the attributes you’d expect from an electrostatic. On the used market, the Quests (and the essentially similar Quest Z and ReQuest) are commonly available for $2000/pr or less. When biamped, the Quests can give you 80-90% of the sound of the Neolith at 1.7% of the price. Just sayin’..
Well if you have Martin-logans....you Know...I have the Martin-logan SUMMITS... and well if I win the lottery ..Yes I want these and you have to come help me set them up.... 🥃🔈🔊🔊.... !!
What’s the relationship between ideal room size and ideal electrostatic panel size?
Hi hunny! I bought new speakers!
I've heard the Neoliths at my local Best Buy Magnolia Audio Video on many occasions, and I must say, they are absolutely one of the best on the planet, at any price!!! I also love and own Hegel (H590 integrated).
I wish I could hear them 😮
Wait did we get to actually hear anything?
You didn't but I did.
@@therealshanelee 😅
Thanks for the video. Love Martin Logan's! Hope to have these one day.
Thanks for the metric units inside brackets. It helps a lot 🙏🏾
When Shane mentioned that Birds track, I paused the video, fired up my Linn Akurate system playing into my DIY world audio design KLS6's and yeah, I could hear the bird wing flaps in the background no problem. This is an incredibly dynamic recording, sounds excellent. Thanks Shane for mentioning it.
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@@therealshaneleeShane, what is the artist name you referenced for “Bird”
@@JediGokuLee Took me a few times listening to him saying the name, but finally understood and found it. Dominique Fils-Aimé | Birds
@@ryankramer YOU. TOTALLY. ROCK! Thank you!
WTF no Edge Of Tomorrow demo?
I'd rather have these than Wilsons.
Same
30 years ago I a pair of CLSs in my apartment, but with upgraded ladders. I really liked the coherence and especially that they were see thru, unlike Maggie 3.5Rs which I owned much later, but their door- like non-see through shape bugged me, but although the CLS panels were large, they were still a head in the vice experience. While $120000 is way beyond my budget, it is down right cheap compared to the MBLs. I have heard neither of these but I have Emerald Physics 3.4s, open baffle, 12" concentric driver with 1" polyester tweeters, outboard XOs and IMHO disappear. EP also made 2.8s which added 2 @15" woofers MSRP ~ $10,000. FOR THE REST OF US, THEY WOULD BE A SCORE
Make a new version of CLS IIz please. Price when discontinued:
$5,995.00. It was great sound powered by original Mark Levinson electronics and Velodyne subwoofers. For now I'm happy with ESL-63 and REL Acoustics.
I have Mark Levinson electronics with CLS and two SVS SB 4000 sealed subs sounds incredible
Got my CLS IIz with 2x Descent i subs and its a great combination. Its a shame they dont offer speakers like this anymore.
Play the god damn things. Stop all the talking
Imagine watching a movie on them .great video thanks
Wait for it... Here it comes... $120K!?! I could build like.... ZERO. I can build ZERO speakers cause well, I'm not a F&*$*^G carpenter. Thanks for showing us these Shane! I remember hearing a pair of ML electrostatic speakers YEARS ago. I haven't heard anything like them since. Do you still have your ML ESLX?
Lol I’m curious to know what 🤡 will actually say that. No I don’t have them anymore. I may get another pair soon though we’ll see.
@@therealshanelee Yup! Lol. I didn't catch your watch today. I had Hamilton envy during your NAD vs Technics review and went and got one. (At least I THINK it was a Hamilton.) Cheers!
@@pj1333 oh lol I'm sure it's a real Hammy. Had to go with the 124270 😁
@@therealshanelee The Perlisten D212s video from Audioholics has a number of clowns in it.
@@DarrenKrusi oh I'm aware. It's a sh#t show over there 🤦🏻♂️ Some folks can't just sit back and appreciate or know how to hate on things by themselves.
For sure amazing but not worth the price tag. The price is really ludicrous.
Awesome video, those look sick!! I wish I could afford them. But Focal speakers are amazing, I've become a Focal Biased myself!
I’m getting 6 for a surround setup.
Wow, speakers worth more than many high-end cars 😳
Hey! That place is 15 minutes away from me! I'm going to have to check it out. Is this place new? I knew there was a Safe and Sound near by, but it looked like a little hole in the wall, in Google maps..
It's not far from the best buy there. Way nicer stuff for both home and car too.
@@therealshanelee Those Martin Logans are a little out of my price range. Hopefully I can still get by with my Tekton Moabs, if I ever hear them in person 😅
These seem like a great deal. I am going to give them a demo.
After listening to these at audio advise live, definitely my dream speaker
WOW! True audiophile rarefied air! I can't imagine how incredible this experience was! Thanks for sharing this demo, Shane!
It was a fun time. Thanks for watching 🍷🍷
Would love to hear these but i can’t unsee them looking like giant cheese graters ever since someone pointed it out. Definitely not my taste in style but I’m sure they are amazing.
Have you ever looked closely at an exclamation point
I mean it resembles lady-parts! If that’s what you were thinking about
Does it slice and dice too?
I would prefer Statement E2
SoundLabs charges $45,000 for their Ultimate 745 full range electrostats. To pay almost 3 Times the price for a hybrid with a compromising moving coil transducer is ridiculous.
Plus Soundlabs are a much bigger panel buy two REL subs and still half the price and they sound better.
@@erics9754 For subs I'd prefer the Acoustic Elegance, 18 inch Dipole Woofers, 4 per channel, crossed over below 50Hz, 4th Order, low level. Cost about 2 grand a channel, exclusive of amplification. But compared to 120,000 bucks, a steal.
@@erics9754 Check out Acoustic Elegance's 18 inch dipole woofers, even 4 a channel with the SoundLabs would still be, about 54 grand.
What I find incredulous is that for a one hundred and twenty thousand pounds pair of speakers, the biggest talking point was their looks and the range of colours they were available in.
That's all you got from it? 🤦🏻♂️
Statistically speaking, not one person that ever watches this video will be able to afford these. lol
One hundred and twenty THOUSAND? Inflation is a biatch...lol
What song did he mention? Bird by who?
can these be driven with OTL (transformerless) amps?
You can get esl15As for almost 1/4 price and plus each speaker comes with dual class D AMPs
Bonjour j ai acheter ,une enceinte Cinema Electrostatic Loudspeaker Systeme ,Motif ,mais je ne sais pas comment le brancher sur mon ampli. J ai vue qu il ya deux sortie rouge et noire a l arriere (,signal input ..).Est ce que c est de la que je doit brancher mes cables d enceinte a mon ampli ?.Pouvez vous m aider svp ?
I have the MartinLogan Dynamo 15" subs and absolutely love them. I feel like outside of the electrostatics they're an underrated brand.
I'm excited about getting my Nakaimichi dragon for $3500. I guess that's what I can afford 😮
I looked it up, and it sounds like a big commitment! Are you sure it’s what you want?
Do you own any conventional systems?
Damn aren't they 80k a pair when they were released?
Very informative, not sure I'd call it a 'review'.
What's the crossover point from the panel to the 12" on these? How about smaller ML electrostats, what's typical?
250-400hz depending on jumper settings.
Those are being wasted in that small room
No sound demo? Boring!
Because you can really tell how good they sound over your ear buds 🤦🏻♂️
How does drum & bass sound out of these?
There’s really no such thing as Ferrari Red. However there’s a red option; Rosso Corsa.
Shut up
Who's the artist of the track "Bird" you recommended? I couldn't quite catch it
Dominique Fils-Aimé
Her albums have such amazing production. Everything sounds true to the source but very clean. Her vocals sit in a tough spot in the mix due to her tone so spacing of instruments are key. These albums can demonstrate such a great soundstage. Highly recommended.
Song at 6:16min pls :)
Great sound.
ANother farcical ""high end ""speaker that costs $5000 to make and goes for the price of a house .
How much does it cost to make a Ferrari 488 Pista? And yet they sell for?
@@alextaylor8776proving that it is indeed retarded
$100K too much ... /done
too bad they don't come any bigger😅
My Soundlabs dwarf these little guys mine are 9ft tall and almost 4 ft wide. I paid 16 grand used and 6 grand for my two big REL subs and I guarantee they blow these away.
I bought 4 of these, they are fantastic, had to give them back though, they wanted more than the $2000 i had to spend. :{
$120k for a sheet of plastic between two perforated metal sheets. Maximum profitability and scam.
I'd like to see you make the same speaker for less.