We went to the same Sports Elementary school in Havana, Cuba ( Alfredo Sosa Morales) , he was 4 yrs. older than me but already a local legend for his glove work. In 1993 the Cuban Junior national team, which i was part of; played the Cuban National University team that was going to Buffalo where he later defected; I remember before the game he gave me a little smirk while saying my name, he was congratulating me for making the Junior national team since we both came from the same elementary school.
This was my grandpa's favorite baseball player. As a Cuban immigrant, my grandpa always wanted to show me Rey's defense. I grew up admiring the guy, because my grandpa loved him. I admired his defense, as I was a middle infielder as well.
As a fan of Cardinals baseball, growing up on Ozzie Smith highlights. Rey is the most amazing SS in that time since. I'm happy to see Rey get some love and recognition.
Yea growing up playing short stop I definitely studied Ozzie Smith, Omar Vizquel and Rey any of them can make an argument for best defensive short stop.
As a Mets fan, I've always tried to find highlight videos and people paying homage to Ordonez but never found much. Thank you for making this vid, Rey O was truly one of a kind.
I love that you made this video. Rey should be more appreciated. But I was pretty shocked that you didn't include ANY of his patented knee slide pop up going to his right. No other player has ever done it. It was art. On identical ground balls, it made Jeter's stupid jump throw look like beer league softball.
Ventura, Ordonez, Alfonzo and Olerud is just about as good as there's ever been defensively. Maybe the '70 Orioles - Brooks Robinson, Mark Belanger, Davey Johnson, Boog Powell - is as good or slightly better, in spite of Powell being much worse than Olerud. But in my lifetime the 98-00 Mets are probably it.
If the Mets do lock down Correa and we have the best infield in baseball, they still look mediocre in comparison to Ordonez and the rest of them back then
My brother and I would field grounders from my dad when we were kids and we were usually pretending to be some combo of Rey and Edgardo Alfonzo, aka the most iconic infield duo in Mets history
My dad grew up a Sox fan in Chicago in the late 50s/early 60s. After seeing some Ordonez highlights one time, he said “I’ve never said this in 40 years, but that kid is a better defender than Luis Aparicio. Seen some equal, he’s the first that’s better.” And, that is about as high of a baseball-related compliment he could ever give.
Thank you for doing a Rey Ordonez vid! Never see this dude getting any respect but he was immensely important to those great mets teams in 99 and 2000. Luis Guillorme has always felt like the second coming of Ordonez to me
There isn't that much material for how truly great Ordonez is. Much like most of the comments a lot of people appreciated his defensive prowess and was one of my favorite players. You did a great job with encapsulating how truly great he was. Even the YT thumbnail was well done. Truly appreciate your efforts for making this. Took a trip back down memory lane a la Rey Ordonez and his craftsman on the diamond.
Favorite quote about Ray. Ralph Kiner called him a bible hitter. Thou shall not pass. As in he swung at everything. Also, I wish you included my favorite Ordonez play. It was against to Cubs. A pop-up in the infield just behind the mound created a triangle play and the ball was going to fall in but at the last second Ordonez comes out of nowhere to dive in and catch the ball just before it hits the ground.
I'm not a Mets fan nor particularly a baseball fan, but Rey Ordonez was always one of my favorites to watch. I'd never seen anyone else do his pre-emptive slide into a stop so he could pop up early for the throw. He may not have stuck around in the zeitgeist of baseball for as long as I expected, but that one move really expanded my idea of what defense could be in baseball.
As a Cleveland Indians / Guardians fan I will always put Omar Vizquel at number one and the Omar/Robbie Alomar ss/2nd base years as the best defensive combo basically ever but Ray was always my shortstop pick in ken Griffey Jr. Major league baseball on N64. He was a REALLY good defensive shortstop that was on par with almost anyone.
In high school all of my boys loved Rey Rey! One of my jv soccer teammates and i used to turn our soccer warmups into Rey Ordonez highlight practices lol. Yeah we got benched a lot.
I didn't even have to watch your video to know he's the best shortstop I've ever seen. I'm a die hard Mets fan since '77. I watched most of all of Rey's games so I've seen him as much as anyone. I also watched Ozzie Smith's career and it's still a no brainer for me. Most of Rey's error's were on routine plays ironically
Grew up in upstate NY in Orange County. My earliest memories of baseball involved Rey Ordonez at short. The best defender I’ve ever watched. Too bad he couldn’t but worth a lick.
YES!! Rey Ordonez and Omar Vizquel were my favorite short stops growing up. I remember Ordonez hitting a grand slam for the Mets. He didn’t hit many bombs, he hit for solid contact. But he had that one haha
Part of (arguably) the greatest infield defense ever. If Rey could hit a lick (which he couldn’t) he’d be an all time great. Still breathtaking defense.
Always admired this cut of middle infielder. Sadly, they wouldn’t even get a second look from a scout today. Guys like Rey, Omar Vizquel, Jose Lind, Rafael Belliard were merely contact hitters that had gloves that doubled as vacuum cleaners. They had one job, and they did it better than anyone else did their job on a team.
You had to see him play to understand how great he was, beyond just the highlights. I'm in St. Louis. We had Ozzie. Defensively I think Rey was the closest thing to Ozzie that we've seen since prime Ozzie. And when coupled with Ventura, Alfonzo and Olerud that Mets infield was ridiculous. Very underappreciated player, and great choice for a video.
Thanks for the video! Ordóñez was one of the greatest!! He played in Cuba for Metropolitanos which is the second team in Havana, just because in the first team there was a shortstop named German Mesa which is the greatest period, Rey was very good defensively but German was insane, you can look for highlights by German Mesa and second base Juan Padilla for Industriales ( El Duke, Kendrys Morales etc also play here) which is the first team of Havana, and the one that has won the most championships in my country Cuba 🇨🇺
Thank you for this. Rey was incredible in the field, but man he couldn't hit for nothing! Nowadays shortstops are hitters and incredible fielders but Rey was on another level with his fielding. Jose Iglesias, another Cuban, is very similar tho he's had some good hitting years recently. Man Rey was good--SO good!!
When I was in High School and Rey was doing this nightly were were blown away watching Sportscenter, and you better believe we were trying to be like Rey before practice. Looking back on him now, I think he may be an alien, my guy was unreal!
FINALLY Rey is getting some love. Ordonez is the best defensive SS I've ever seen or even heard about - period. He was so electric in the field - as you can hear in these clips - that his name was hardly ever said without an exclamation point behind it. If he could have just batted league-average I say he'd have been much more well-known and respected. But for that brief, glorious time we got to enjoy the show and jumping up to just shout "ORDONEZ!?" at mind-boggling plays night after night. I mean, just LOOK AT 2:12 again! 🤯 Give some credit to his double-play partners Fonzie and Olerud, too. Combined with Ventura at third, that 1999 Mets infield was where groundballs went to die.
This is fantastic analysis of such a unicorn player that is certainly among the worst hitters in baseball history while being a must watch player and possibly the best fielding human in Earth's history
One of the most amazing things about Rey's 100 games without an error is just how ridiculous his range was. There's a lot of guys who handled what was hit right at them but Rey was able to avoid errors even when the degree of difficulty was extreme. His double play partner Alfonzo was the opposite, very reliable fielder, one of the best ever in terms of fielding percentage but he was distinctly average moving laterally or coming in. That 99 Mets infield is usually talked about in terms of the best ever. It was the best I ever saw at any rate. Ventura at third was an incredible fielder. Olerud was the best receiving first baseman I've ever seen and a big part of why Rey and the rest of that infield committed so few errors. He turned so many off target throws into outs. And Alfonzo was a machine at 2b, if it was in his range it was an out. A lot of it comes down to whether you count the catcher in that conversation. Piazza wasn't a great defensive catcher.
I’m a Mets fan and rey had a great glove but a horrible personality which lead him to getting beat up by utility infielder Luis Lopez and as you said his bat sucked. His ego was always bigger then the team and because of this he wasn’t always a crowd favorite.
Boy, I used to get ticked off at Mets fans who hated Rey. Why did they hate Rey? Because they felt he wasn’t a good enough hitter. My attitude was: the guy is the best defensive shortstop in baseball. He doesn’t have to be a big stick! He was a fabulous ballplayer!
What might get missed in the left field catch is that Rey actually waives the left fielder off at 9:27. He had no doubt that it was his ball. Every time I hear his name, I hear Bob Murphy saying it "Rey Or-don-ez!" (as well as John Olerud's name "Johnny Olerud!" )
Footwork around the bag is huge, it’s something that was more important back then than it is now just cause guys are so athletic they do things like field slow ground balls off their right foot so ball is closer their throwing hand and pivots around the bag
I was a huge fan of rey. My favorite met of the time. There was basically a daily ordonez highlight on baseball tonight. Early in his career he would make a lot of errors on the easy plays. But when it was all said and done he was one of tje best ss of all time
The Peggy gif took me out lmao. Great video. Mets are at their best to watch when they have magicians at SS. Ordóñez and Guillorme come from the same stock as far as defense.
you are taught as an infielder moving towards first to cut the ball off from a stationary infielder. You shorten the time the ball is on the ground and utilize that momentum towards first on the throw. Not only are those plays impressive, but they are also the fundamentally correct baseball play
Sure but that wasnt what happened that play, the video also got it wrong. It was a simple but impressive play on grounder up the middle, both 2b and ss should go after that ball. Your logic is correct when the 3b cuts in front of the shortstop to get it quicker and with momentum and a better angle. In this case rey was moving to the right centerfield gap
Look at the play at 1:50, he cuts in front of the 2B. There are multiple plays he does this. Yes, this is more common when a 3B cuts off the SS, but this is a testimony to ordonez range, that he was cutting off the 2B. Something you rarely see. The same concept still applies
Middle infielders are almost always great at off-footed and/or off-weight throws like those. He makes that throw because we make those kinds of throws ALLLLL the time. Practice makes permanent.
As someone already pointed out in the comments: he was not the best Cuban SS of his time!!! That merit goes to Germán "The Magnet" Mesa, which was another out-of-this-world defender and furthermore coincided with a great defensive second baseman (Juan Padilla) which formed the best SS-2B pair I have ever seen. One could argue that Ordóñez had more range and was more explosive. Mesa on the other hand was smoother and way more fluid (I kid you not). Mesa was also a decent hitter and one known to show up in big moments. That being said: great video, and thanks for bringing attention to an overall underrated player like Rey Ordóñez.
2:41 that play illustrates how bad defensive metrics were before modern statcast, and I mean modern like from 2-4 years ago. Before that there were people judging every play to determine wheter a play was good or not, when a SS like Rey played charged to 2B or 3B because their team's defensive coach told him to play there then those SS were qualified as extremely good while a normal SS was punished by not doing that. Defensive metrics included the eye test and a play like that one at 2:41 was deemed to be way above average as if the SS had begun to sprint from a neutral SS position. Up until very recently that was still the case. Rey was extraordinarily good, but playing there also created a scenario where he didn't get to quite a lot of routine grounders because he was not playing where a SS is supposed to be. Other contemporary SS who did and were better at it were deemed to be inferior even though they made more plays and recorded more outs and assists.
Big Mets fan here. I used to call Rey Ordonez "The Golden Retriever" because he'd literally get every ball on the infield. Couldn't hit for anything...unless it was Al Leiter at the plate.
My favorite mets infielders of alltime are rey ordoñez, carlos baerga, edgardo alfonzo, robin ventura, john olerud, mo vaughn, roberto alomar, jeff kent, jose reyes, david wright, jose vizcaino, todd zeile, carlos delgado and now i add francisco lindor and pete alonzo.
Reminds me a little of Brandon Inge (a third baseman) who would sometimes run into LF to catch a flyball right in front of the left fielder There was a play in the top of the first in the 2009 Home Opener where he ran halfway into LF and caught the ball while he was still running and facing away from home plate
Given that Inge's original collegiate position, he could have easily been an offensively more gifted and versatile version of Rey Ordonez. The thing is the offensively gifted but weaker armed shortstop Carlos Guillen, Inge's strong accurate arm, and lack of depth at 3rd base when Pudge was signed forced him out to 3rd base as Inge's glove and arm were too good to keep benched.
This dude is the master of telling his audience why they should be impressed by something; pointing out the obvious just in case you have no clue what you're seeing.
You put the piece together so you deserve to put up any title you want. He is truly one of the greats and probably the most underrated. But it's only my opinion Omar Vizquel is the smoothest infielder of all time.
We went to the same Sports Elementary school in Havana, Cuba ( Alfredo Sosa Morales) , he was 4 yrs. older than me but already a local legend for his glove work. In 1993 the Cuban Junior national team, which i was part of; played the Cuban National University team that was going to Buffalo where he later defected; I remember before the game he gave me a little smirk while saying my name, he was congratulating me for making the Junior national team since we both came from the same elementary school.
This was my grandpa's favorite baseball player. As a Cuban immigrant, my grandpa always wanted to show me Rey's defense. I grew up admiring the guy, because my grandpa loved him. I admired his defense, as I was a middle infielder as well.
Mine too!!! Gpa knows his baseball.
Rey was also the master of the slide/pop up throw move. He would use it to stop his momentum which usually resulted in a strong, accurate, throw.
Yes! It was such a good move, I’ve always wondered why more dudes don’t try it.
The single best way to attack a ball in the hole yet it’s never taught
As a fan of Cardinals baseball, growing up on Ozzie Smith highlights. Rey is the most amazing SS in that time since. I'm happy to see Rey get some love and recognition.
Yea growing up playing short stop I definitely studied Ozzie Smith, Omar Vizquel and Rey any of them can make an argument for best defensive short stop.
Bro this mans glove was ridiculous,he had the glove jeter didnt have
Agreed. Ozzie’s flips and making the game fun. Great to see both play
Andrelton Simmons should get a honorable mention as well
As a Mets fan, I've always tried to find highlight videos and people paying homage to Ordonez but never found much. Thank you for making this vid, Rey O was truly one of a kind.
I’ve been saying it for 20 years , for that short three year span he was the best defensive shortstop in the history of baseball !!!
I love that you made this video. Rey should be more appreciated. But I was pretty shocked that you didn't include ANY of his patented knee slide pop up going to his right. No other player has ever done it. It was art. On identical ground balls, it made Jeter's stupid jump throw look like beer league softball.
Finally some respect for my favorite player of all time
Ventura, Ordonez, Alfonzo and Olerud is just about as good as there's ever been defensively. Maybe the '70 Orioles - Brooks Robinson, Mark Belanger, Davey Johnson, Boog Powell - is as good or slightly better, in spite of Powell being much worse than Olerud. But in my lifetime the 98-00 Mets are probably it.
Same brother. Rey Rey is King King.
If the Mets do lock down Correa and we have the best infield in baseball, they still look mediocre in comparison to Ordonez and the rest of them back then
Can’t wait for the Colby Rasmus on the Astros video then if this is happening to people.
facts mine to ahah
My brother and I would field grounders from my dad when we were kids and we were usually pretending to be some combo of Rey and Edgardo Alfonzo, aka the most iconic infield duo in Mets history
Ditto that. Good times!!
Growing up as a Mets fan, I've never seen such a smooth defender in the outfield than Rey Ordonez. That cannon of an arm can get people out!
Thank you for proving that Stat Cast is not only unnecessary, but has taken the wonder and amazement out of the spectacularness of plays.
My dad grew up a Sox fan in Chicago in the late 50s/early 60s. After seeing some Ordonez highlights one time, he said “I’ve never said this in 40 years, but that kid is a better defender than Luis Aparicio. Seen some equal, he’s the first that’s better.” And, that is about as high of a baseball-related compliment he could ever give.
Thank you for doing a Rey Ordonez vid! Never see this dude getting any respect but he was immensely important to those great mets teams in 99 and 2000. Luis Guillorme has always felt like the second coming of Ordonez to me
There isn't that much material for how truly great Ordonez is. Much like most of the comments a lot of people appreciated his defensive prowess and was one of my favorite players. You did a great job with encapsulating how truly great he was. Even the YT thumbnail was well done. Truly appreciate your efforts for making this. Took a trip back down memory lane a la Rey Ordonez and his craftsman on the diamond.
Best SS in history. My hero as a kid. Met him a couple times. Thank you for the nostalgia.
Ordonez is so underappreciated. Yes he couldn't hit but boy he could catch baseball all day!! Great defensive plays always put a smile on my face.
Favorite quote about Ray. Ralph Kiner called him a bible hitter. Thou shall not pass. As in he swung at everything. Also, I wish you included my favorite Ordonez play. It was against to Cubs. A pop-up in the infield just behind the mound created a triangle play and the ball was going to fall in but at the last second Ordonez comes out of nowhere to dive in and catch the ball just before it hits the ground.
I'm not a Mets fan nor particularly a baseball fan, but Rey Ordonez was always one of my favorites to watch. I'd never seen anyone else do his pre-emptive slide into a stop so he could pop up early for the throw. He may not have stuck around in the zeitgeist of baseball for as long as I expected, but that one move really expanded my idea of what defense could be in baseball.
Dope comment. I can sense the respect for the game.
Finally. A video of Ordoñez. I remember he’d always be on the highlight reels in TWIB.
I played shortstop in high school from 98-20 and loved Rey. I tried copying all of his moves. Best defensive SS ever.
98-20? wow you were in high school a long time lol
@@supergoose5142 LOl, I am sure he ment 98-00
@@supergoose5142 LOL. 98-2000
I think Ozzie Smith and Omar Vizquel might have something to say about that but yea those 3 are in the conversation.
@@lhamarurbina9549 I will take Ozzy Smith, the man was a wizard.
As a Cleveland Indians / Guardians fan I will always put Omar Vizquel at number one and the Omar/Robbie Alomar ss/2nd base years as the best defensive combo basically ever but Ray was always my shortstop pick in ken Griffey Jr. Major league baseball on N64. He was a REALLY good defensive shortstop that was on par with almost anyone.
This guy leaves me speechless with his insane plays
In high school all of my boys loved Rey Rey! One of my jv soccer teammates and i used to turn our soccer warmups into Rey Ordonez highlight practices lol. Yeah we got benched a lot.
I didn't even have to watch your video to know he's the best shortstop I've ever seen. I'm a die hard Mets fan since '77. I watched most of all of Rey's games so I've seen him as much as anyone. I also watched Ozzie Smith's career and it's still a no brainer for me. Most of Rey's error's were on routine plays ironically
Thank you for this. Forgot how good he was, criminally underrated defensively
Rey was a very me man shift. Loved watching him play. Truly the greatest infielder I’ve ever seen.
He had a very short career but he’s the greatest SS I’ve ever known !
Grew up in upstate NY in Orange County. My earliest memories of baseball involved Rey Ordonez at short. The best defender I’ve ever watched. Too bad he couldn’t but worth a lick.
I miss watching him. on any given play. a jaw dropping highlight could happen
YES!! Rey Ordonez and Omar Vizquel were my favorite short stops growing up.
I remember Ordonez hitting a grand slam for the Mets. He didn’t hit many bombs, he hit for solid contact. But he had that one haha
I’ve seen him play so many games, thanks for making this video. Really underrated.
Never knew he existed, reminds me of Jose Iglesias as a Red Sox fan. I’ve always liked light hitting defensive wizards at SS.
Iglesias at least hit around .300 a few times.
Part of (arguably) the greatest infield defense ever. If Rey could hit a lick (which he couldn’t) he’d be an all time great. Still breathtaking defense.
I loved that man, by far the best defensive player ever in MLB
Awesome. I remember being 17 yrs old as a yankee fan loving his shortstop skills.
I love this account, man. You hear about the best players that are not talked enough in the mainstream.
Always admired this cut of middle infielder. Sadly, they wouldn’t even get a second look from a scout today. Guys like Rey, Omar Vizquel, Jose Lind, Rafael Belliard were merely contact hitters that had gloves that doubled as vacuum cleaners. They had one job, and they did it better than anyone else did their job on a team.
You had to see him play to understand how great he was, beyond just the highlights. I'm in St. Louis. We had Ozzie. Defensively I think Rey was the closest thing to Ozzie that we've seen since prime Ozzie. And when coupled with Ventura, Alfonzo and Olerud that Mets infield was ridiculous. Very underappreciated player, and great choice for a video.
One of the best infields in history. Too bad there pitching wasn't better.
Thanks for the video! Ordóñez was one of the greatest!! He played in Cuba for Metropolitanos which is the second team in Havana, just because in the first team there was a shortstop named German Mesa which is the greatest period, Rey was very good defensively but German was insane, you can look for highlights by German Mesa and second base Juan Padilla for Industriales ( El Duke, Kendrys Morales etc also play here) which is the first team of Havana, and the one that has won the most championships in my country Cuba 🇨🇺
Pop up slide in the hole, rocket arm to first. Never replicated.
Loved it! I had the honor to meet him, great peraon, and i caught ground balls with im , in miami when he got there, his hands are out of this world
Thank you for this. Rey was incredible in the field, but man he couldn't hit for nothing! Nowadays shortstops are hitters and incredible fielders but Rey was on another level with his fielding. Jose Iglesias, another Cuban, is very similar tho he's had some good hitting years recently. Man Rey was good--SO good!!
I like the underrated defensive guys. Would love to see a video on Jose Lind 2B for Pirates he was filthy also.
He was amazing. Simmons is the only one similar since him.
Gotta love the Dave Stieb cameo at 10:51
When I was in High School and Rey was doing this nightly were were blown away watching Sportscenter, and you better believe we were trying to be like Rey before practice. Looking back on him now, I think he may be an alien, my guy was unreal!
FINALLY Rey is getting some love. Ordonez is the best defensive SS I've ever seen or even heard about - period. He was so electric in the field - as you can hear in these clips - that his name was hardly ever said without an exclamation point behind it. If he could have just batted league-average I say he'd have been much more well-known and respected. But for that brief, glorious time we got to enjoy the show and jumping up to just shout "ORDONEZ!?" at mind-boggling plays night after night. I mean, just LOOK AT 2:12 again! 🤯
Give some credit to his double-play partners Fonzie and Olerud, too. Combined with Ventura at third, that 1999 Mets infield was where groundballs went to die.
Rey-O was my idol as a young ballplayer growing up. Yeah, he was hard to watch at the plate, but times were different.
Glad you made this video about Rey Ordonez & kept it real. Dawg definitely was the truth with the glove just couldn’t hit to save his life tho.
Looks like I took that guy for granted; more of a Mets fan than a baseball fan, and now in context, I can see that he was sublime.
This is fantastic analysis of such a unicorn player that is certainly among the worst hitters in baseball history while being a must watch player and possibly the best fielding human in Earth's history
I saw a lot of these highlights live at Shea Stadium unbelievable to say the least …. Rey O 👑
wow, that was a joy watching him operate
Rey swung a pool noodle, and yet was a starting shortstop for many years. That's how good at Defense he was
Ordoñez definitely gets overlooked… when mentioned with great 90’s SS….
One of my all-time favorite shortstops! ⚾️
I am glad he is finally getting credit for his play . I always liked his style. Mets had a great team then.
One of the most amazing things about Rey's 100 games without an error is just how ridiculous his range was. There's a lot of guys who handled what was hit right at them but Rey was able to avoid errors even when the degree of difficulty was extreme.
His double play partner Alfonzo was the opposite, very reliable fielder, one of the best ever in terms of fielding percentage but he was distinctly average moving laterally or coming in.
That 99 Mets infield is usually talked about in terms of the best ever. It was the best I ever saw at any rate. Ventura at third was an incredible fielder. Olerud was the best receiving first baseman I've ever seen and a big part of why Rey and the rest of that infield committed so few errors. He turned so many off target throws into outs. And Alfonzo was a machine at 2b, if it was in his range it was an out.
A lot of it comes down to whether you count the catcher in that conversation. Piazza wasn't a great defensive catcher.
Are you ducking high ??? Omar & Robbie.
The end.
The anchor of the 1999 Mets, the best defensive infield I've ever seen.
It was his ability to throw strikes as soon as he gloved the ball with incredible speed and accuracy is what made him different from everyone else.
Definitely remember Rey, he was a beast on the field!
I wore #10 my whole life for every sport I played because of Rey Ordonez.
i watched rey played in puerto rico before hes started in the mlb and the man was pure magic
The Best Defensive shortstop of all time!!!
I’m a Mets fan and rey had a great glove but a horrible personality which lead him to getting beat up by utility infielder Luis Lopez and as you said his bat sucked. His ego was always bigger then the team and because of this he wasn’t always a crowd favorite.
my favorite player ever thank you for this !!!
Boy, I used to get ticked off at Mets fans who hated Rey. Why did they hate Rey? Because they felt he wasn’t a good enough hitter. My attitude was: the guy is the best defensive shortstop in baseball. He doesn’t have to be a big stick! He was a fabulous ballplayer!
What might get missed in the left field catch is that Rey actually waives the left fielder off at 9:27. He had no doubt that it was his ball. Every time I hear his name, I hear Bob Murphy saying it "Rey Or-don-ez!" (as well as John Olerud's name "Johnny Olerud!" )
Ordoñez+Vizquel= the greatest I have ever seen defensively at shortstop.
Footwork around the bag is huge, it’s something that was more important back then than it is now just cause guys are so athletic they do things like field slow ground balls off their right foot so ball is closer their throwing hand and pivots around the bag
I was a huge fan of rey. My favorite met of the time. There was basically a daily ordonez highlight on baseball tonight. Early in his career he would make a lot of errors on the easy plays. But when it was all said and done he was one of tje best ss of all time
The Peggy gif took me out lmao. Great video. Mets are at their best to watch when they have magicians at SS. Ordóñez and Guillorme come from the same stock as far as defense.
you are taught as an infielder moving towards first to cut the ball off from a stationary infielder. You shorten the time the ball is on the ground and utilize that momentum towards first on the throw. Not only are those plays impressive, but they are also the fundamentally correct baseball play
Sure but that wasnt what happened that play, the video also got it wrong. It was a simple but impressive play on grounder up the middle, both 2b and ss should go after that ball. Your logic is correct when the 3b cuts in front of the shortstop to get it quicker and with momentum and a better angle. In this case rey was moving to the right centerfield gap
@@m.o.5291 so you’re saying that the second basemen had a better angle than rey going to first on a ball up the middle?
@@jcece5270 no not at all. Im saying you both go after it.
Look at the play at 1:50, he cuts in front of the 2B. There are multiple plays he does this. Yes, this is more common when a 3B cuts off the SS, but this is a testimony to ordonez range, that he was cutting off the 2B. Something you rarely see. The same concept still applies
Middle infielders are almost always great at off-footed and/or off-weight throws like those. He makes that throw because we make those kinds of throws ALLLLL the time. Practice makes permanent.
Andrelton Simmons channeled this energy for a while. I don't think there's an active SS on this level.
Ah Rey-Rey, I loved that guy! Thanks for reminding me of him SRS!
As someone already pointed out in the comments: he was not the best Cuban SS of his time!!! That merit goes to Germán "The Magnet" Mesa, which was another out-of-this-world defender and furthermore coincided with a great defensive second baseman (Juan Padilla) which formed the best SS-2B pair I have ever seen. One could argue that Ordóñez had more range and was more explosive. Mesa on the other hand was smoother and way more fluid (I kid you not). Mesa was also a decent hitter and one known to show up in big moments.
That being said: great video, and thanks for bringing attention to an overall underrated player like Rey Ordóñez.
Did you guys forget that *Andrelton Simmons* exists? Other than Ozzie Smith, Simmons is the best defensive shortstop in the history of baseball.
Stop it
@ ok fine, let us also not forget Mark Belanger and his 8 gold gloves
completely forgot about this guy, great video
2:41 that play illustrates how bad defensive metrics were before modern statcast, and I mean modern like from 2-4 years ago. Before that there were people judging every play to determine wheter a play was good or not, when a SS like Rey played charged to 2B or 3B because their team's defensive coach told him to play there then those SS were qualified as extremely good while a normal SS was punished by not doing that. Defensive metrics included the eye test and a play like that one at 2:41 was deemed to be way above average as if the SS had begun to sprint from a neutral SS position. Up until very recently that was still the case.
Rey was extraordinarily good, but playing there also created a scenario where he didn't get to quite a lot of routine grounders because he was not playing where a SS is supposed to be. Other contemporary SS who did and were better at it were deemed to be inferior even though they made more plays and recorded more outs and assists.
Best defensive short stop ever. Hand down.
Been waiting for this one!
Haha you put him above Ozzie smith and Visquel?! That’s funny
Absolutely agree. I’m 61 and seen a lot of em . But he was from another planet
He is the definitipn of making the diving play
hey i love Andrelton Simmons
Big Mets fan here. I used to call Rey Ordonez "The Golden Retriever" because he'd literally get every ball on the infield. Couldn't hit for anything...unless it was Al Leiter at the plate.
My favorite mets infielders of alltime are rey ordoñez, carlos baerga, edgardo alfonzo, robin ventura, john olerud, mo vaughn, roberto alomar, jeff kent, jose reyes, david wright, jose vizcaino, todd zeile, carlos delgado and now i add francisco lindor and pete alonzo.
Reminds me a little of Brandon Inge (a third baseman) who would sometimes run into LF to catch a flyball right in front of the left fielder
There was a play in the top of the first in the 2009 Home Opener where he ran halfway into LF and caught the ball while he was still running and facing away from home plate
Given that Inge's original collegiate position, he could have easily been an offensively more gifted and versatile version of Rey Ordonez. The thing is the offensively gifted but weaker armed shortstop Carlos Guillen, Inge's strong accurate arm, and lack of depth at 3rd base when Pudge was signed forced him out to 3rd base as Inge's glove and arm were too good to keep benched.
This dude is the master of telling his audience why they should be impressed by something; pointing out the obvious just in case you have no clue what you're seeing.
Great video. Ive got an Ordóñez black jersey and wear it with pride.
Loved how you showed yourself in right field lol 😂
Spectaculay SS Rey, i love him.
IF ONLY he could hit. He made Ozzie Smith look like joe DiMaggio with the bat
I idolized this guy growing up in the 90s. Weekly web gem. I liked him WAY better than AROD, Jeter, or Nomar.
Rey was an will always be my favorite athlete of all time
You put the piece together so you deserve to put up any title you want. He is truly one of the greats and probably the most underrated. But it's only my opinion Omar Vizquel is the smoothest infielder of all time.
what is craziest is that he called off the left fielder coming in on that final play. He had the wherewithal to know the left fielder couldn't get it
He had great Baseball instincts.