@@deplatformedcrowprinceluna6339 "cato the elder? more like cato the cringy" "STOP IT" "CAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOO THHHHHEEEEE STTTTTTIIIIIIIINKKKKKYYYYY" "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
for some reason I can imagine a modern cato finishing his speeches by moving his mouth as close to the mike as possible and saying Carthago delenda est.
Not entirely true. Gadir, or as it would later be known Gades, actually defeated the roman armies during the second punic war, being the last bastion of Punic culture in Hispania. Hilarity comes here: Despite being founded by the phoenicians Gadir was actually extremely unhappy about Carthage, and had never been happy about being conquered by them (although they peacefully surrendered to Carthage after every other city around them got assfucked.) So the romans, once they learned of this issue, and before the third Punic War, would offer Gadir the chance to be accepted peacefully into the empire as a federated city and capital of the newly established province of Hispania Ulterior. Being a federated city is kind of like being a client king but smaller. It meant they'd be allowed to keep doing things their way but they had to swear loyalty to rome and pay taxes. What the romans didn't know is this was a much better deal than what Carthage had put them through, so they joined willingly and quite happily. And despite not having to romanize would progressively adopt roman culture voluntarily (until they became roman nobility thanks to supporting Julius Caesar and Augustus during the civil wars.) Point is. While Carthage itself was razed, there were refugees from the surrounding cities, and they would migrate to Gades hoping to reach the last bastion of Punnic culture, and they produced endless amounts of Salt when they learned that Gades was so mad about what Carthage had done to Hispania that they were one of the main lobbies behind Cato and the biggest source of auxilia behind the burning of Carthage. So that's a huge amount of historical kek.
@@thespanishinquisition4078 it was a joke, but thanks. Although I knew about the socii, I didn't know about that story. Learned more here than in my history class.
At least as early as 1863,[7] various texts claimed that the Roman general Scipio Aemilianus plowed over and sowed the city of Carthage with salt after defeating it in the Third Punic War (146 BC), sacking it, and enslaving the survivors. The salting was probably modeled on the story of Shechem. Though ancient sources do mention symbolically drawing a plow over various cities and salting them, none mention Carthage in particular.[3] The salting story entered the academic literature in Bertrand Hallward's article in the first edition of the Cambridge Ancient History, and was taken up by others. It was discredited by scholars in the 1980s.[1][8][9]
Shame Dovah never reached the point when the sand people took Carthage from the Byzantines, eradicated the remnants of the city and relocated its holdings to nearby Tunis. It would've been like this but in reverse almost.
That demand for the 500 Punic children is a sick burn since that's how many children they were known to sacrifice to ba'al. It's like saying "Rome is your god, now. We know what you like to give to your gods."
First punic War : Carthagian : it's over roman, you have losses insane 300,000 soldier against us with just 250,000. Even you won you must accept defeat because it's too heavy and brutal Roman : How about No Second Punic War Carthagian & Hannibal : Haa this roman is too fool, they got their ass kicked few decade ago for war with us, even they won they suffered extreme casualties, Rome must be surrender and accept defeat Roman : How About no *Proceed to continue war that make almost entire Carthagian Navy & merchant Destroyed and Proved Roman Naval Supremacy in entire mediteranian that able to blockade entire carthage if Roman war, 600,000 Carthagian soldier death and 400,000 Roman soldier death by second punic war" Third Punic War : Carthage : Please stop, Our empire have been destroyed, Our Navy gone and Our army it's gone with mostly only city garrison of Carthage, Rome : How about no *Proceed completely destroyed entire Carthage Population and completely fuck off and salt earth the Carthage that result almost entire 750,000 population killed by massacre And only 50,000 survived sold to slavery
I feel like he really did salt the earth but it was mostly just a symbolic display and limited to some governor's private garden AND likely didn't have the "permanent" effect they intended. (The salt diluted to nothing in a few months.)
Something doesn't make sense Rome sent under 100K to Delenda Carthage but over 100K to fight the Dacians .... the difference between these 2 campaigns are around 50K more soldiers sent to destroy Dacia , were Dacians actually a bigger challenge than Carthage ?
The merchant guild were never the fighting sort of barbarians and it wasnt really their land and they had a way lower birthrate that Italy aaand they didnt include the indigineous. You can see where this is going.
Scipio Aemilianus is Scipio Africanus Grandson. The treaty that Carthage cannot raise an army was stipulated on the basis that Rome would protect her borders. Rome failed to meet that requirement.
I'm not the author of the clip, all rights belong to Dovahhatty (ua-cam.com/channels/dZY83VtDv0WieDHLyXrlNQ.html ) You can ask him for the permission there.
Carthage did not refuse the terms and "call for war" -- the terms were a complete death sentence to their civilization, and could not possibly be accepted, and the Romans knew it. Carthage had already handed over all their weapons. They _begged_ the Romans not to attack Carthage. And it wasn't all kicked off by a border or territory dispute -- Massinisa was raiding Carthage and stealing prime farming land, with impunity as a Roman ally. Carthage appealed to Rome to intervene multiple times, and Rome refused. Rome was looking for an excuse to commit incredibly thorough genocide.
@@thales2456 you are a disgusting Mongrelized byproduct of a brown Arab or Berber slaying some Iberian puss. it’s hypocritical for you to be saying the stuff you are.
At least as early as 1863,[7] various texts claimed that the Roman general Scipio Aemilianus plowed over and sowed the city of Carthage with salt after defeating it in the Third Punic War (146 BC), sacking it, and enslaving the survivors. The salting was probably modeled on the story of Shechem. Though ancient sources do mention symbolically drawing a plow over various cities and salting them, none mention Carthage in particular.[3] The salting story entered the academic literature in Bertrand Hallward's article in the first edition of the Cambridge Ancient History, and was taken up by others. It was discredited by scholars in the 1980s.[1][8][9] It's a myth you idiots
You have the right to all this hatred against Hannibal and his people, who insulted you the worst of insults Hannibal ad portas 😂😂 barbarians, who do not know the craft of the ship of the Phoenicians, who taught you its craftsmanship, and alphabet, trade, agriculture and politics Don't forget yourself, barbarian, when Carthage was in its glory and progress, there was no Rome on the map, you were just savages living in mud and wood huts
Cato the Elder more like Cato the Based
The younger…
The Unbased.
@@iamkanye443
Don’t you mean Cato The Younger more like Cato The Cringe?
@@deplatformedcrowprinceluna6339
"cato the elder? more like cato the cringy"
"STOP IT"
"CAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOO THHHHHEEEEE STTTTTTIIIIIIIINKKKKKYYYYY"
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
“and furthermore I believe that CARTHEGO DELENDA EST” Cato the Elder.
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam
+10 Power Projection
Hey, what do you want for luch?
Cato: How about grapes and CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
I like how Cato was such a chad, that drawing him as a chad is beneath his image.
The only thing saltier than his hatred towards Carthage was Carthage itself
Carthage is requesting *SALT*.
You can improve relations with this city state by *PROVIDING THEM SALT*.
for some reason I can imagine a modern cato finishing his speeches by moving his mouth as close to the mike as possible and saying
Carthago delenda est.
Than he gets cancelled
It would sound like Trump Saying CHYYYNA in my Head 🤣🤣🤣
BASED AND ROMAPILLED
This trend of Rome meming the hell out of their enemies is my favorite thing in this entire series lmao
I was going to say that they were salty about that, then I remmembered:
THERE WAS NO ONE LEFT TO BE SALTY AFTER THIS!!!
Not entirely true. Gadir, or as it would later be known Gades, actually defeated the roman armies during the second punic war, being the last bastion of Punic culture in Hispania. Hilarity comes here:
Despite being founded by the phoenicians Gadir was actually extremely unhappy about Carthage, and had never been happy about being conquered by them (although they peacefully surrendered to Carthage after every other city around them got assfucked.) So the romans, once they learned of this issue, and before the third Punic War, would offer Gadir the chance to be accepted peacefully into the empire as a federated city and capital of the newly established province of Hispania Ulterior. Being a federated city is kind of like being a client king but smaller. It meant they'd be allowed to keep doing things their way but they had to swear loyalty to rome and pay taxes.
What the romans didn't know is this was a much better deal than what Carthage had put them through, so they joined willingly and quite happily. And despite not having to romanize would progressively adopt roman culture voluntarily (until they became roman nobility thanks to supporting Julius Caesar and Augustus during the civil wars.)
Point is. While Carthage itself was razed, there were refugees from the surrounding cities, and they would migrate to Gades hoping to reach the last bastion of Punnic culture, and they produced endless amounts of Salt when they learned that Gades was so mad about what Carthage had done to Hispania that they were one of the main lobbies behind Cato and the biggest source of auxilia behind the burning of Carthage. So that's a huge amount of historical kek.
@@thespanishinquisition4078 it was a joke, but thanks. Although I knew about the socii, I didn't know about that story. Learned more here than in my history class.
At least as early as 1863,[7] various texts claimed that the Roman general Scipio Aemilianus plowed over and sowed the city of Carthage with salt after defeating it in the Third Punic War (146 BC), sacking it, and enslaving the survivors. The salting was probably modeled on the story of Shechem. Though ancient sources do mention symbolically drawing a plow over various cities and salting them, none mention Carthage in particular.[3] The salting story entered the academic literature in Bertrand Hallward's article in the first edition of the Cambridge Ancient History, and was taken up by others. It was discredited by scholars in the 1980s.[1][8][9]
To be fair, the ashes of the people of Carthage were probably quite salty.
The ancient ancestor of the meme "COWABUNGA IT IS"
PRAETORIA DELENDA EST!!!!
The shit must be deleted???
IDEVA DELENDA EST !
Ostrogothi delenda what
as a tunisian this hits hard
F
Give me some salt for my fries please 🍟
@@cristhianramirez6939 we will send you that . don't worry but this time in box with your heads 😉
Tunisians have little to no genetic relation to carthaginians.
You should thank Rome for not having too much Merchant Guild DNA in you..
We need to make china the new Carthago.
@Antares Yes.
Ever get fries so salty you think of Carthage? Because that's why I am here now.
Suffice it to say the Carthageans were salty about the whole ordeal
I like my Popcorn just like I like Carthage
*Salty*
Vandal Delenda Est
no
Gaiseric says hi.
@@kitosjek9541 Gelimer says bye.
Carthago Delenda Est!!!!!!!
Carthago Delende Est!!!!!!
Shame Dovah never reached the point when the sand people took Carthage from the Byzantines, eradicated the remnants of the city and relocated its holdings to nearby Tunis.
It would've been like this but in reverse almost.
Fun Fact: delenda is in the root of the verb delete
DELETE CARTHAGE
That demand for the 500 Punic children is a sick burn since that's how many children they were known to sacrifice to ba'al. It's like saying "Rome is your god, now. We know what you like to give to your gods."
Rome was taking kids from everyone.
Arminius was taken as a child as well.
Playing divide et impera i can totally see catos point, carthage its a huge pain in the ass for rome since turn 10
First punic War :
Carthagian : it's over roman, you have losses insane 300,000 soldier against us with just 250,000. Even you won you must accept defeat because it's too heavy and brutal
Roman : How about No
Second Punic War
Carthagian & Hannibal : Haa this roman is too fool, they got their ass kicked few decade ago for war with us, even they won they suffered extreme casualties,
Rome must be surrender and accept defeat
Roman : How About no
*Proceed to continue war that make almost entire Carthagian Navy & merchant Destroyed and Proved Roman Naval Supremacy in entire mediteranian that able to blockade entire carthage if Roman war, 600,000 Carthagian soldier death and 400,000 Roman soldier death by second punic war"
Third Punic War :
Carthage : Please stop, Our empire have been destroyed, Our Navy gone and Our army it's gone with mostly only city garrison of Carthage,
Rome : How about no
*Proceed completely destroyed entire Carthage Population and completely fuck off and salt earth the Carthage that result almost entire 750,000 population killed by massacre And only 50,000 survived sold to slavery
What a genuinely beautiful piece of UA-cam. 🤣
_and that is how I plan to solve the unemployment crisis, _*_California Delenda Est_*
IVDEA DELENDA EST
I feel like he really did salt the earth but it was mostly just a symbolic display and limited to some governor's private garden AND likely didn't have the "permanent" effect they intended. (The salt diluted to nothing in a few months.)
Something doesn't make sense Rome sent under 100K to Delenda Carthage but over 100K to fight the Dacians .... the difference between these 2 campaigns are around 50K more soldiers sent to destroy Dacia , were Dacians actually a bigger challenge than Carthage ?
The merchant guild were never the fighting sort of barbarians and it wasnt really their land and they had a way lower birthrate that Italy aaand they didnt include the indigineous.
You can see where this is going.
ladies and gentlemen and Cato. Carthage has been destroyed
Epic video.
Scipio Aemilianus is Scipio Africanus Grandson. The treaty that Carthage cannot raise an army was stipulated on the basis that Rome would protect her borders. Rome failed to meet that requirement.
BASSATVM ET PILLULA RUBRUM
Vlw pelo vídeo, broder
💪🏻🇧🇷
1:06 song?
The Can Can
@@Reagan1984 thanks
1:07
Do you mind if I clipped the last part of your video to make it part of podcast's ending credits? I will, of course, give you credit anytime I use it
I'm not the author of the clip, all rights belong to Dovahhatty (ua-cam.com/channels/dZY83VtDv0WieDHLyXrlNQ.html )
You can ask him for the permission there.
@@narcisraiciu6919 thanks
Cato il basado😎🧂
Yeah, est
I like both Cato and Scipio, but I am more a Scipio fan because he reminds me Marinette......
SINAE DELENDA EST!!!
Carthage did not refuse the terms and "call for war" -- the terms were a complete death sentence to their civilization, and could not possibly be accepted, and the Romans knew it. Carthage had already handed over all their weapons. They _begged_ the Romans not to attack Carthage.
And it wasn't all kicked off by a border or territory dispute -- Massinisa was raiding Carthage and stealing prime farming land, with impunity as a Roman ally. Carthage appealed to Rome to intervene multiple times, and Rome refused. Rome was looking for an excuse to commit incredibly thorough genocide.
This is all Hanno's fault
part
Cringe comments
Sons of carthage WHERE ARE YOU only 9 disliking the video
Lejemna nwarihom rjel cta3mel
Sa7bi
🏺⚔️🇹🇳⚔️🏺
You really think that your ancestors are that punic caananites and phoenicians? And feels proud of it? Lol
Buried in Salt
@@thales2456 you are a disgusting Mongrelized byproduct of a brown Arab or Berber slaying some Iberian puss. it’s hypocritical for you to be saying the stuff you are.
Good thing you're not Carthaginian
At least as early as 1863,[7] various texts claimed that the Roman general Scipio Aemilianus plowed over and sowed the city of Carthage with salt after defeating it in the Third Punic War (146 BC), sacking it, and enslaving the survivors. The salting was probably modeled on the story of Shechem. Though ancient sources do mention symbolically drawing a plow over various cities and salting them, none mention Carthage in particular.[3] The salting story entered the academic literature in Bertrand Hallward's article in the first edition of the Cambridge Ancient History, and was taken up by others. It was discredited by scholars in the 1980s.[1][8][9]
It's a myth you idiots
I mean did you actually watch the video series by dovah?
its irony and sarcasm, i think the idiot here is you lol.
>w*kipedia
Lmao, you showed that you're an idiot, by implying that this series is meant to be serious.
man wanted to show that the salt part never happened
You have the right to all this hatred against Hannibal and his people, who insulted you the worst of insults Hannibal ad portas 😂😂 barbarians, who do not know the craft of the ship of the Phoenicians, who taught you its craftsmanship, and alphabet, trade, agriculture and politics Don't forget yourself, barbarian, when Carthage was in its glory and progress, there was no Rome on the map, you were just savages living in mud and wood huts