Attempting To Hit Geoff Castellucci's Low Notes Using Second Subharmonics | G1 - F1

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  • Опубліковано 15 сер 2021
  • This video is basically a second subharmonic low note compilation. I recorded my clips from this video all at different days whenever I had decent usable 2nd subharmonics. I know that my 2nd subs don't sound nearly as good as Geoff low notes but it's still fun to play around with it. I also made this video to show what's possible with second subs and to spread the word about it because a lot of people probably still don't know about it.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 237

  • @wongcayven9893
    @wongcayven9893 2 роки тому +93

    This video has taught me that my so called "subharmonic" has been second subharmonic all along, and my actual subharmonic was misrecognized as "just a low chest note"

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +25

      That’s interesting… Are you sure about that? It’s not a natural thing to sing subharmonics without noticing it yourself. There’s a pretty obvious transition to it. The drop from your chest voice to the first subharmonic should be exactly one octave. The drop to the second subharmonic should be a fifth. This way you can identify what subharmonic your singing.

    • @wongcayven9893
      @wongcayven9893 2 роки тому +14

      @@jmbmusic1 The thing is that I learnt subharmonics not by singing a higher note then going down an octave, I went to my lowest chest note and tried finding alternatives to go lower and accidentally developed scuffed subharmonics. I didn't know much about singing techniques at the time and it slowly got more natural so I just assumed my chest range increased. But now going by feel and listening I realized some notes between my chest and subharmonic limit (around C2) are actually first subs

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +12

      @@wongcayven9893 That is super interesting! I don’t think I‘ve ever heard of anyone who learnt subharmonics that way.... Impressive!

    • @kIDNEYKid-xt9uc
      @kIDNEYKid-xt9uc 2 роки тому +8

      @@wongcayven9893 are you sure it's not a chest fry mix?

    • @maloxi1472
      @maloxi1472 2 роки тому +5

      @@kIDNEYKid-xt9uc That's more likely. Happens a lot with maturing voice that go for low notes

  • @redux1012
    @redux1012 2 роки тому +125

    Those are some of the best sounding second subharmonics I’ve ever heard! Great job!!!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +9

      That’s too nice❤️
      Thank you very much🙏🏻

    • @Daniel_Muniz
      @Daniel_Muniz 2 роки тому +5

      Can you explain me how to develop this second subharmonic? I can only hit B1 and Bb1 with it.

  • @rtsbass7829
    @rtsbass7829 2 роки тому +50

    First one is INSANE!!!!!
    I rewatched it hundred times!!!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +14

      Haha, thanks!!! The first one is the most recent one so I guess it makes sense. And thanks for the watch time😅

    • @N9TheNoob
      @N9TheNoob 2 роки тому +7

      second one sounds so good beacause of the air pressure

  • @kavilljrb8684
    @kavilljrb8684 2 роки тому +27

    F#2 to D2 to C#2 to a F#1 is very hard to do great work man

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +6

      Thank you very much! I has to be a very good day for me to get my Second Subharmonics consistently enough to sing something like that line.

    • @darscrack
      @darscrack 2 роки тому +3

      I manage to do them all in chest, which implies that the F#2 subharmonic costs me a lot due to the depth of my voice.

  • @towerofresonance4877
    @towerofresonance4877 Рік тому +15

    This is awesome! I like people seeing what subharmonic and chest is side-by-side. Great notes!

  • @Marcell0Bass
    @Marcell0Bass 2 роки тому +15

    nicely done

  • @ebucs
    @ebucs 2 роки тому +28

    I got so excited when I saw you made a new post. We are like the same people. I do this a lot🤣🤣🤣
    And the "my mother..." classic F1 ending 🔥🔥😭

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, we are really doing similar things😅 It‘s just a ton of fun, isn‘t it?
      I think I‘ll use that My Mother Told Me song in a lot of future videos as the end credits song...😂 It just works perfectly for that

    • @ebucs
      @ebucs 2 роки тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 yes it's fun helps me set low notes goals as well.
      Also I agree that will be an awesome trademark for your videos, it's gold🔥🔥

  • @pete_detroit
    @pete_detroit 2 роки тому +5

    Im fourteen and i can hit a c2 chest and still going....

  • @AmyLeuWho
    @AmyLeuWho 2 роки тому +46

    Nice! I'm a girl who can sing down to B2, and I've been trying to learn subharmonics. Psyched to see that if I keep practicing, I could invade baritone or bass territory

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +4

      Cool! Keep practicing!

    • @herberthooverfeetpics4595
      @herberthooverfeetpics4595 2 роки тому +4

      Alto+subharmonics= lower than some basses! Keep going and you could break a world record for lowest sung female note!

    • @kunou4527
      @kunou4527 2 роки тому +4

      It's definitely worth working on, otherwise you'd be wasting your instrument's potential. True contraltos often have really interesting vocal colors at the low end, and using subharmonics only increases that uniqueness. For working on your low end you can also play with a high vocal placement using chest and nasal resonance to still hit low notes without losing agility, or even polyphonic production for the subharmonic (similar to what Diana Ankudinova does).

    • @AmyLeuWho
      @AmyLeuWho 2 роки тому +3

      @Kunou, thanks for clueing me in to Diana Ankudinova. I've been watching some of Elizabeth Zharoff's reactions to her, and she's got a really interesting sound!
      @Alien Baconation, wouldn't that be something? I don't think they'd count subharmonics, but might still be a fun challenge
      *Searches lowest female note*
      That's... That's vocal fry??? That counts? I honestly think I can hit that
      @JMB Music, can I get a fresh link to that bass discord?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      @@AmyLeuWho Of course! Here‘s your link: discord.gg/XemtNKkw

  • @Taytodude
    @Taytodude 2 місяці тому +3

    This is so cool! This is what inspired me to learn second subs. Another video like this would be dope!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 місяці тому

      Thank you! I‘m happy to hear that this was an inspiration for you! Unfortunately I don’t have enough clips to make a part two because I haven’t recorded any second subs in a while. Also it doesn’t really fit that well with my content nowadays…

    • @Taytodude
      @Taytodude 2 місяці тому +1

      All good! I totally understand and am loving the stuff you put out now. Thanks!

  • @zntnx
    @zntnx 2 роки тому +19

    Very nice, really like the sound of your subharmonics

  • @chomperone559
    @chomperone559 2 роки тому +6

    man i gotta practice more

  • @LosingFaithBand
    @LosingFaithBand 2 місяці тому +3

    Not too shabby dude! Your definitely going places if you keep it up

  • @FortexVize
    @FortexVize 2 роки тому +10

    Absolutely awesome subharmonics!!!

  • @miahb2560
    @miahb2560 2 роки тому +10

    0:44
    I'M SORRY, BUT I DIEDDD 🤣🤣🤣
    (I don't mean to offend-)
    Other than that, you are UNBELIEVABLE!!! I NEVER imagined a TENOR reaching GEOFF'S notes!!! Great job! 👏👏👏

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +9

      Haha, thanks! Reaching Geoffs low notes with some techniques is pretty possible, but making it sound decently good is another story…

  • @freddiereagan6705
    @freddiereagan6705 2 роки тому +2

    Epic

  • @mustafaemre03
    @mustafaemre03 2 роки тому +3

    Nice job bro

  • @tarantula6669
    @tarantula6669 2 роки тому +3

    Great work! Ich freue mich schon auf dein nächstes Projekt- deine Version von my mother told me war genial- mehr davon bitte 😊

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Dankeschön! Ich werde definitiv weitere solcher Projekte machen. Jedoch habe ich momentan wenig Zeit, also werden die Abstände zwischen den videos ziemlich groß sein...

    • @tarantula6669
      @tarantula6669 2 роки тому +1

      Verständlich, ist ja auch offensichtlich super zeitaufwändig was du da kreierst. Bin auf jeden Fall schon gespannt auf die kommenden Projekte und deine weitere Entwicklung ☺️

  • @v3getar1ancarr0t5
    @v3getar1ancarr0t5 2 роки тому +2

    Very nice!

  • @magreggins
    @magreggins 2 роки тому +2

    Git it! Nice work!

  • @dottor8tto
    @dottor8tto Рік тому +3

    Watching this video once per day. Really like your subharmonics! And your growl in Arabian Nights. And I'm trying from a month to learn subharmonic too :)

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +1

      Nice, thank you so much!

  • @randyjsing
    @randyjsing Рік тому +3

    Awesome job man!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +4

      Thank you very much Randy! Means a lot coming from you!

  • @olabergvall3154
    @olabergvall3154 2 роки тому +2

    That was very good!!! Good job 👌

  • @maloxi1472
    @maloxi1472 2 роки тому +7

    1:08 That's the advantage of being a bari-tenor, I suppose.
    C#2 in subharmonic is a tad too high for me and sounds like your sub F#2.
    My sub F#2 sounds like I'm doing straight up overtone singing 😄

  • @ToOliver22
    @ToOliver22 2 роки тому +1

    Keep it up! It sounds good!

  • @CasperFox
    @CasperFox 2 роки тому +4

    This is such a cool video idea - Mind if I steal it for the future? Great subs man!!!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you!!! Feel free to use any video concept I will ever upload on my channel. I don’t mind😄

  • @fixigun7024
    @fixigun7024 Рік тому +4

    0:40 You just mastered so much subs that your G1 2nd subs sounds better than Goeff's chest one !! Incredible !!!!!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +4

      Wow dude that’s such a high praise! Thank you so so much!!!

    • @fixigun7024
      @fixigun7024 Рік тому +3

      @@jmbmusic1 0:27 I didn't see it but this one is SIIICKK !!! did you require some eq or does it sound like that naturally ?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +5

      @@fixigun7024 Thank you! I definitely used EQ to beef up the note quite a bit but that doesn’t really change the sound of the note much. It was already a very solid second sub in the first place.

  • @jonadabtheunsightly
    @jonadabtheunsightly 2 роки тому +6

    Oh my word. That is impressive. I didn't know a tenor could do that.
    I can't help wonder if Geoff knows about this technique, and what notes he could hit using it.
    Though I also notice, you haven't managed the E1 that Geoff hits in so many different songs.

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +5

      Thank you very much!
      Geoff knows about this technique but he said that he doesn’t really know how to use it and he’s pretty happy with his 1st subs so he doesn’t need it.
      I unfortunately can’t really sing an E1 in second subs. It’s just too low.

  • @freddiestudio7668
    @freddiestudio7668 2 роки тому +11

    Wow ! Easily one the best controls over the second subharmonic s ! Well done bro

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +6

      Thank you very much!!! But keep in mind that I can’t hit these second subs with this quality daily… It has to be a good day for me to hit them like that.

  • @jerrywangdrumline
    @jerrywangdrumline 19 днів тому +1

    Wow! Nice job! Your great!

  • @caleb-hy2pe
    @caleb-hy2pe 2 роки тому +2

    Wonderful brother

  • @Guest.7289
    @Guest.7289 Місяць тому +2

    Geoff is addicted to around half octave jumps istg D2-G1s, C#2-F#1, C2-F1, G#1-C#1 in dragonborn comes, E1-B0 in halo theme

  • @gedeonandrasmusic
    @gedeonandrasmusic 2 роки тому +3

    Wow, nice!

  • @gabbo3772
    @gabbo3772 2 роки тому +3

    Dude great job, really. I don't really know how to train my second sub. I can use the first sub to go A1, dome times i achieved G1 and E1 but I don't know if that was just morning voice, if i used the first sub or i randomly used the second sub. How did you train to achieve the second subharmonic?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks!
      I‘m just playing around with subharmonics all the time and I‘ve been doing it for 21 Months now. After some time I hit my first second sub and tried it every now and then. I don’t have a specific exercise for subharmonics. I simply use it as often as possible.

  • @bennguyen9210
    @bennguyen9210 2 роки тому +8

    bro those were so good! just wondering whats your lowest chest note?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Thanks!!! My lowest everyday chest note is about F2/F#2.

    • @magmarok8209
      @magmarok8209 2 роки тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 woah, I don’t know my range but I know about D2 is my lowest useable but I can hit highs like a tenor. I’m not trained I just have a lot of range.

  • @ethanunruh6717
    @ethanunruh6717 2 роки тому +5

    2nd sub tutorial?? I'd greatly appreciate it
    also, SICK!!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks!
      I don’t think there‘s a need to make a tutorial. I think the one from David Larson that I linked in the description is very good.

  • @sthandiwembuli3580
    @sthandiwembuli3580 2 роки тому +7

    How do you practice precision and consistency with subharmonics yo🙆🏾‍♂️ great stuff

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +5

      Well, I don’t really practice subharmonics with specific exercises. I simply play around with it all the time. And over time I developed decent control. But it took me about one year to get subharmonics kind of consistent. And Thanks for the compliment!

  • @leohclips742
    @leohclips742 2 роки тому +2

    Holy shit you have good control! I like to think my 2nd subharmonics sound nice(I have a Eb1 second sub on my channel) but my control is often not very good. I’m just curious how did you practice to get this level of control?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you!!! I have decent control, but honestly these were just really good takes. For most of these clips I had a LOT of unused takes. I have second subs almost daily but it’s not always usable. I can’t tell you how I got this control because there’s nothing I could really tell you. I just experiment with subs whenever I can throughout the day. I mostly sing second subs in the evening when my voice is tired. It helps to slip into the register.

  • @ctr7503
    @ctr7503 2 роки тому +5

    Easiest sub ever.
    (Meaning me subscribing not the subharmonics in the vid XD)

  • @mustafaemre03
    @mustafaemre03 2 роки тому +3

    1:31 f#2,d#2,c#2 could have been a chest fry

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, these subs sounded a bit rough but they were still subs. And at 1:37 you can actually hear that I accidentally sang a second sub for a split second.

  • @SilvaIsaqu3
    @SilvaIsaqu3 2 роки тому +2

    Very good Bro!!!
    But How i practice de Second subharmonic?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks! I don’t really know any good tips. This is how I ‚practice‘ my second subs: Whenever I notice that I have strong 1st subs I also try singing Second subs and sing as much with them as possible. I don’t really have any specific exercises.

  • @CrimFerret
    @CrimFerret 2 роки тому +3

    Good job with those.

  • @xandred_bass1011
    @xandred_bass1011 2 роки тому +5

    I've been practicing subharmonics for a while, and I think I can get around to a C#1 with it which is great. But I'm still trying to learn how to do second subharmonic but I can't begin to figure it out. Do you think you could give me a quick synopsis on how to do it?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Have you watched David Larson’s Tutorial on second subs? That tutorial was all I needed to figure out second subs. There’s not really much more I can teach. Maybe I can give you one tip: Remember when you first learned subharmonics. It probably took you some time to even find that sweet spot or that balance to sing a normal subharmonic. Now for second subs you‘ll have to find the next sweet spot after you already entered your first sub. The reason you struggle is probably because that Second sweet spot is like ten times as hard to find as the first one. And the next problem is that sometimes a second sub can be mistaken for fry when first messing around with it. There‘s such a fine line between slipping into fry and staying in second subs that you might not feel a difference at first.
      My tip is: Try practicing second subs when your regular subs are super solid. Try slipping down into the next register. It might take you some time to get a second sub out but I‘m sure it‘s gonna happen, sooner or later. After that just try to replicate that feeling and just practice, practice, practice.
      I hope this helps, I am not very good at explaining things.

    • @xandred_bass1011
      @xandred_bass1011 2 роки тому +3

      @@jmbmusic1 That was pretty straightforward. Thanks a lot. I did watch David's tutorial on it, but in my opinion he didn't really explain it in a way I could understand. The way you just explained it made a lot more sense to me. Thanks

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      @@xandred_bass1011 Well, I am glad that it helped you!

  • @hrudanandasahoo8070
    @hrudanandasahoo8070 Рік тому +3

    THE WAY YOU ARE DOING SUBHARMONICS. I DON'T THINK U ARE A TENOR....
    CRAZY SUBS !!!!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +3

      Haha, thank you very much!

    • @hrudanandasahoo8070
      @hrudanandasahoo8070 Рік тому +3

      WHAT ,S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OCTAVES AND SUBHARMONICS??

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +3

      An octave is a musical term for two notes that are exactly half the frequency or double the frequency apart from one another. The Subharmonic register is a specific singing technique that allows you to sing a lot lower than you usually could. With a normal Subharmonic note you automatically sing a note that’s one octave below the note that you‘re actually singing.

  • @deadlichaos
    @deadlichaos Рік тому +7

    very smooth, with a little more practice you would pass for a bass

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +5

      Thanks! It‘s all a work in progress!

  • @salvab_music
    @salvab_music 2 роки тому +4

    I don't understand that second third and other things hahahaha with the subs

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +4

      Haha, that‘s fine. I think the tutorial that I linked in the description of the video explains it quite well. That might help you understand it better.

  • @anonymousaccordionist3326
    @anonymousaccordionist3326 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow, I've seen some other of your videos, but I'm surprised I hadn't yet seen this one given that it's 2 years old. You have really solid control of second subs! I can only do them in the higher range of my subs, I focused more on learning how to get clean subs down to the bottom of my chest range. If you happen to see this comment I'd be curious to know what your natural chest range is. Can you reach these with first subs, or did you train second subs so well because you couldn't?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 місяці тому

      Hey, thanks for your comment! And now to your questions:
      1. My natural chest range is approximately from F2 - A4.
      2. Usually I can only reach down to around C2 with first subs. That’s the main reason why I started learning second subs. And because I found them to work quite well on some days. Nowadays I Very rarely use them cause ingressive phonation is way easier and always accessible for me.

    • @anonymousaccordionist3326
      @anonymousaccordionist3326 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 That was very fast and concise! Thank you. Subharmonics do seem to be a rather niche technique that only come in handy in specific situations, other than just having fun with them. I hope you have a great day and keep up the good work!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 місяці тому +1

      @@anonymousaccordionist3326 Thank you! That’s true, outside of the a cappella world subharmonics are almost useless. I know some bass singers use it in choral music, but that’s it.
      I also hope you have a fantastic day!

  • @inceptionsd
    @inceptionsd 2 роки тому +2

    Wow dude, that was awesome. I would like to master subharmonics, as well. My chest range starts at E2, D2 in the morning but i cant really go below that unless i go into chest fry or growl.

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks!!! Subharmonics take a while to get good at but it’s definitely worth it!

    • @inceptionsd
      @inceptionsd 2 роки тому +2

      @@jmbmusic1 Yeah, i never knew they can sound so full when sung by a tenor. I guess its all about the technique. I figured out how to do it, but it's still inconsistent, but when i initiate the subharmonic i can do scales and go up/down in pitch. But my throat has to be super relaxed to even get it out.

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      @@inceptionsd Subharmonics can sound full when sung by a Tenor but they will never have the same ‚dark‘ sound that they have when sung by a Bass. In a Studio Setting you can make subharmonics from Tenors sound almost the same as subharmonics from Basses. It‘s all about the editing.
      And yeah, the beginning of learning subharmonics is kind of difficult from my experience. But once your subharmonics are a little more consistent you can start using them while singing along to some bass lines or whatever you are listening to. That helps a ton to improve them even more.

  • @felix_dmlrd289
    @felix_dmlrd289 2 роки тому +5

    (Talking about your Kidnap The Sandy Claus attempt) Your first subharmonics are actually chest notes and what you call second subharmonics is actually the first subharmonics

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +9

      Well, I will take that as a compliment! These were actually first subharmonics! My chest sounds way different. And believe me when I say: I know exactly when I‘m hitting a normal subharmonic, a Second subharmonic or a chest note. Fun fact: I CAN‘T hit anything below F2 in chest and because of that an F#1 using first subharmonics is also impossible for me.

  • @marioleb4079
    @marioleb4079 2 роки тому +3

    How do you do to do 2nd sub? I think i went to a G0 on 2nd sub once but i don't know how

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      It’s not very easy to explain… Remember when you first started singing normal subs? You might’ve had a hard time finding that sweet spot for you to transition into subs and not flipping up again. A similar thing applies for 2nd subs, it’s just 10 times as difficult. Sing a normal sub and try to find another transition spot. Once you find that you’ll flip down a fifth to your second sub. And then just practice, practice, practice.

    • @marioleb4079
      @marioleb4079 2 роки тому +2

      @@jmbmusic1 thanks i'll do that 😉👍

  • @ze-kebeatbox
    @ze-kebeatbox 2 роки тому +4

    Hope I can do too🤣🥺 need more practice hehe

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Haha, Yeah second subs need a lot of practice to be usable.

  • @mark7s980
    @mark7s980 26 днів тому +1

    Singing in chest voice I can get down quite a ways, almost as low as Geoff, but I can't get any power behind it. Any tips?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  26 днів тому +1

      The low chest range is the part of the voice that is the least trainable… There’s not much that you can do to improve power down low. Though one tip that I hear from a lot of bass singers is that training the upper range also helps to strengthen the lower range. But that takes a lot of time. Don’t expect any miracles.

  • @benceschmidt2567
    @benceschmidt2567 2 роки тому +2

    I didn't read the comments, so if you were told about this, sorry.
    Those low notes from Geoff are most definetly NOT chest notes. :D There is NO WAY anybody can sing a G1, let alone louder than the usual chest notes.
    Not to mention that Geoff is not even a bass, and no basses have any chence to go down to G1, and if for some miracle they could, it coul have barely been heard, it would be full of air.
    I'm not really good in english so I might be missing something, and maybe everything is called chestnote under the head/mixed voice, if so, than sorry. But those low notes from Geoff are subharmonic/vocal fry
    But anyway, you're doing really great with those. :)

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your comment!
      When looking at low notes in the bass world we have to clarify some things: Subharmonics are quite easy to pick out with a trained ear, just like growl, chest-fry or fry notes. Chest notes are a little difficult to define...
      It‘s a fact that there are physical boundaries that make 100% pure chest notes impossible somewhere in the low 1st octave. But we can still call these notes chest notes because they‘re like 95% chest and maybe 5% fry. Let‘s take Geoff as an example: His lowest chest notes are F#1‘s (and one recorded F1 and a couple of lower very debatable notes). He has to switch to different registers to get lower. That means he’s at the bottom of a register (chest). It can’t be a fry based register because we know that fry can basically be infinitely low so he could just continue to go lower and lower. When he goes that low he still has the chest voice feeling that higher notes have. From what I know most bass singers can distinguish between a chest note and a mixed chest-fry note.
      So even if these low chest notes aren‘t 100% pure chest from a scientific standpoint, for the bass singing world they still count in that category because of the very natural chesty quality and the feeling that the singer has when singing the note.
      This is a very big topic and there are a lot more things I could go into. I hope you can understand my explanation!

  • @pitri2722
    @pitri2722 Місяць тому +1

    Are you sure those G1s are chest and not subharmonic? His subs are very smooth so I sometimes find it hard to tell. Awesome work either way!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, I am 100% sure about every note that I labeled here. I have spent a LOT of time in the last four years listening to bass singers using all kinds of vocal techniques and I definitely hear the difference between a subharmonic and a chest note. Additionally some of these notes have been confirmed by Geoff himself and for example the „Arabian Nights“ G1‘s are definitely chest notes because they were recorded years before Geoff even learned to use the subharmonic technique.
      Thanks for your compliment :)

  • @DrakeLavenderZXShorts
    @DrakeLavenderZXShorts Рік тому +2

    What is the different between 1st subharmonic and 2nd subharmonic?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +2

      Check out this tutorial by David Larson: ua-cam.com/video/7PddsnKsUEg/v-deo.html
      He explains it better than I ever could in this comment.

  • @toothless2323
    @toothless2323 2 роки тому +2

    They sound super clean! Are you a baritone btw? Like what is your voice classification

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks! I am a Tenor or a low Tenor but definitely not a Baritone ;)

    • @toothless2323
      @toothless2323 2 роки тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 what? A tenor? Dayum you woke up feeling dangerous 🥶 I’m a tenor too but I don’t do these covers because even though I’m pretty comfy with my subs skills they literally suck ass above C#2, like they sound very rattly and distorted so I just don’t do stuff like this but it’s awesome that yours don’t sound like that

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      @@toothless2323 Most of the time I can‘t even go below a C2 in subharmonics. My comfortable area for subs is around C#2 - F2. It is pretty difficult to make subharmonics in this area sound good but I just have to work with what I‘ve got. That’s also why I work on things like 2nd subs and ingressive phonation.

    • @toothless2323
      @toothless2323 2 роки тому +2

      @@jmbmusic1 nice dude it’s sounding solid. For me, my subs work down to A1 with the first sub. G#1 with morning voice. And then the second subs go down to E1. And I use third subs for anything below that however I only have control down to D1 ish, anything below that is just very fry like or pulse like and hard to control. I have to warm up quite a bit to do third subs properly. I’m planning on doing a Oogie Boogie song cover however I’m still recovering from vocal fatigue so I’m probably going to take months till my voice is fully recovered

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      @@toothless2323 Interesting! Definitely let me know when you upload the oogie boogie song cover!

  • @scraggyboi
    @scraggyboi 2 роки тому +3

    the arabian night D2 sounded like chest

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +5

      Cool! That’s good to hear! But the secret there was just EQ-ing the right frequencies ;)

  • @wodandewael3613
    @wodandewael3613 Рік тому +2

    The fact that the c#2 at 1:20 is a chest note is crazy

  • @Z3SC
    @Z3SC 2 роки тому +2

    And I though my 1st sub G1-F1's were good smh... thats crazy

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you very much!!! I wish I had these notes as 1st subs😅

  • @schizophrenicdad6726
    @schizophrenicdad6726 9 місяців тому

    Between 1st 2nd and chest fry i cant whats what i just do it. I wish i new the difference

  • @kuraikot3i491
    @kuraikot3i491 2 роки тому +2

    I was trying to understand how to do the 2sub thanks to you now I have something, don't take it the wrong way but you could improve your voice placement and with that you would expand your chest range.

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      Sounds great!
      I am constantly trying to improve my voice and I like constructive feedback so thanks for that! I think I‘ve actually improved since uploading this video.

    • @kuraikot3i491
      @kuraikot3i491 2 роки тому +2

      @@jmbmusic1 I will enjoy seeing you improve and grow on your channel

  • @MoparMikeMM
    @MoparMikeMM 2 роки тому +2

    Maybe one day I'll be able to figure out sub harmonics, until then I have to rely on chest and growl notes. Good job though bud, I'm impressed

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks!!! I’m sure one day you’ll get there as well.

    • @MoparMikeMM
      @MoparMikeMM 2 роки тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 I've watched a few tutorials on how to find your sub harmonic register, but without having a voice instructor present that can do it it's a bit confusing

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +1

      @@MoparMikeMM Yeah that’s right. It can be very difficult at first. Have you considered joining the Bass Singing Nation (BSN) Discord server? There are over a thousand members on that server and some are really good at explaining things like subharmonics. You could probably even hop in a voice chat so other people can help you to find your subharmonic register. If you want I can give you an invitation link to that server.

    • @MoparMikeMM
      @MoparMikeMM 2 роки тому +1

      Didn't even know that was a thing! Lol. I'm a baritone with some bass notes but I can hit tenor all day too lol

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      @@MoparMikeMM Ok, here‘s the link: discord.gg/cW3tSGrE

  • @hugobasilio1303
    @hugobasilio1303 Рік тому

    1:07 For a moment I though it was chest!🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 That's a nice one!

  • @SAMRACEDUKESSAMDUKES
    @SAMRACEDUKESSAMDUKES 2 роки тому +1

    Sir can you please tell me how to add subharmonics in fl studio in android

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +1

      I‘m not quite sure what you mean… The Subharmonic register is not an effect that you add to your voice in post production. It’s an actual singing technique.

    • @SAMRACEDUKESSAMDUKES
      @SAMRACEDUKESSAMDUKES 2 роки тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 ok sir

  • @quinswaringam10
    @quinswaringam10 2 роки тому

    I been working on my subharmonic notes. There a little bit tough

  • @ultimategaming4265
    @ultimategaming4265 2 роки тому +3

    Have you tried doing the originals in chest or chest fry?

    • @freddiestudio7668
      @freddiestudio7668 2 роки тому +5

      Ehem,he is a *TENOR*

    • @ultimategaming4265
      @ultimategaming4265 2 роки тому +2

      @@freddiestudio7668 I know but it doesn’t mean he can’t try

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +4

      @@ultimategaming4265 I could try, but I would fail😂
      My lowest chest is F2 but it‘s rarely ever usable. And I don’t use chest-fry as a technique.

    • @freddiestudio7668
      @freddiestudio7668 2 роки тому +3

      @@ultimategaming4265 the thing is,Chest-fry and fry heavily depends on the user,and Julius here is a tenor which meant his tone is very light,which means his chest-fry will sound much higher then its suppose to be so

    • @ultimategaming4265
      @ultimategaming4265 2 роки тому +2

      @@jmbmusic1 oh cool. If like Geoff with basically the exact same range so seeing a tenor doing this stuff is really cool. Also I guess I wasn’t subbed so I am now

  • @zubat0532
    @zubat0532 6 місяців тому +1

    you have 666 subs by now

  • @theslomobroandmore2335
    @theslomobroandmore2335 2 роки тому +2

    how do you get into second subharmonics?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +4

      The same way I flip into first subharmonics. I just find the transition point and practice a lot to get the second subharmonics somewhat solid. But the things that you see in this video are most of the time the best take out of like 10 or 20 or 50 takes ;)

  • @remiebbx
    @remiebbx 2 роки тому +1

    Hey, could you please give a listen to this 2nd subharmonic technique? Is it the same thing you are doing? Indicator - I'm An Alien

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому

      I don’t actually know a lot about beatbox techniques. But from what I can see I am using a slightly different technique. I am relaxing my voice to let the first and second subs happen. I think he’s ‚pushing‘ more to get the notes out and that results in a slightly different sound. He might be using throat bass 2nd subs but that’s just a guess.

  • @spotsquad
    @spotsquad 2 роки тому +5

    what's your lowest subharmonic? personaly mine is B0

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +7

      It depends on the subharmonic...
      Lowest 1st sub: A1
      Lowest 2nd sub: E1
      Lowest 3rd sub: C#1
      These are my records. I can’t hit those daily.

    • @user-lp8wr6or8y
      @user-lp8wr6or8y 2 роки тому

      in the small and big octave you will not sound like a bass, but in the counter this sound you make it somehow with the ligaments, throat ????

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      @@user-lp8wr6or8y I‘m not sure if I understand what you are trying to say... But let me try to answer. I am a Tenor. That’s why I will never sound like a proper bass. I‘m simply using the vocal technique ‚subharmonic register‘ to hit these low notes for fun. I hope this explains your question.

    • @jamessullysolipsist4860
      @jamessullysolipsist4860 2 роки тому +3

      @@jmbmusic1 As a bass baritone, I love studying both lower and higher voices than mine to understand the techniques better, and it's awesome to hear how you do it :)
      Good job and thanks for sharing

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      @@jamessullysolipsist4860 Cool! Thank you!

  • @mag2059
    @mag2059 20 днів тому +1

    Just curious, whats your chest range?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  20 днів тому

      About F2 - A4 on an average day.

    • @Goobdude5
      @Goobdude5 19 днів тому

      Mine is from E4 to D2 Sometimes G1

  • @marcdubois8601
    @marcdubois8601 Рік тому

    Vraiment bien d'entendre sans effets de console et micro.

  • @LeviTalTV
    @LeviTalTV 2 роки тому +2

    Когда Тенор пытается изобразить баса :-)

    • @rtsbass7829
      @rtsbass7829 2 роки тому +2

      Anyway subharmonics, especially 2nd ones are hard

  • @user-12wkddsaks
    @user-12wkddsaks Рік тому +4

    Your 1st subharmonics really sound like chest. And you can use very nice 2nd subharmonics quite freely. It's insane

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +3

      Thank you very much! I really appreciate the kind words!

    • @johndeeregreen4592
      @johndeeregreen4592 Рік тому

      @@jmbmusic1, it does sound like you do have an element of chest connection with your 1st subs. It's like you slide an octave down to a weak chest note and the sub takes over.

  • @gamerboy-in5qm
    @gamerboy-in5qm 8 днів тому

    C1 chest babyyyyy

  • @west_drumming
    @west_drumming 25 днів тому

    Good job I'm 15 and I found out today my lowest note is an F#1

  • @zusrecall1086
    @zusrecall1086 2 роки тому +2

    What is a second subharmonic?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      ua-cam.com/video/7PddsnKsUEg/v-deo.html
      This will help you to understand what it is.

  • @BobthePhotoGuy
    @BobthePhotoGuy 2 роки тому +2

    Funny thing. I can ALMOST get to an E1, but I don't try to compare myself to Geoff, who labels himself as a baritone, not a bass. Now if you can get to the E1, like at the end of Oogie Boogie, then props to you, but even with filtering, is it as clean as Geoff's?
    Not shooting you down, just putting a perspective on Geoff's ability!

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +3

      You are right, Geoff is definitely on another level and I am nowhere close to his quality, especially on the low notes.
      I did hit an E1 second subharmonic before but it’s suuuper rare for me to even get the note out. I haven’t been able to get an Oogie Boogie E1 recorded yet.

  • @-nightwolf-7132
    @-nightwolf-7132 2 роки тому +2

    0:20 Which song ?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +1

      VoicePlay’s ACA Disney. It’s not on their own channel but you can find it pretty easily.

  • @ThiagoGasparino
    @ThiagoGasparino Рік тому +2

    Why do you think that those are Chest?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +2

      Because they are. Geoff doesn’t just use subharmonics for notes like G1‘s. There’s a very clear difference between his low chest notes and his subharmonic notes.

  • @SAMRACEDUKESSAMDUKES
    @SAMRACEDUKESSAMDUKES 2 роки тому

    Plz

  • @nancywessels9465
    @nancywessels9465 Рік тому

    1:55

  • @stevegoldson67
    @stevegoldson67 Рік тому +2

    I’m confused how he called himself a tenor. Man literally hit a Bb-1. How is G1 second sub?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +2

      The range of your extended techniques don’t determine your voice type. I barely have an F2 in chest voice daily. That’s why (and for other reasons) my voice type is tenor.

    • @stevegoldson67
      @stevegoldson67 Рік тому +2

      @@jmbmusic1 that’s really impressive that you can hit notes in the 0th and negative octaves then.

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +2

      @@stevegoldson67 Thanks!

  • @Benthing.
    @Benthing. 2 роки тому +2

    Are you tenor?

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +2

      Yes! Lowest daily chest note is around F2

  • @triplezgames3882
    @triplezgames3882 Рік тому +2

    Geoff is using subharmonics as well for his low notes... it's not chest

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +2

      That’s correct, he uses subharmonics a lot! But I didn’t just recreate chest notes. I also recreated some of his subharmonics, as I clearly stated in the video. All of Geoffs notes in this video are correctly classified. 100% guaranteed.

    • @triplezgames3882
      @triplezgames3882 Рік тому +2

      @@jmbmusic1 I wrote the comment in the first half, where all of his notes were identified as "Chest", so I thought you didn't know about him using subs at all...
      How do you know for certain that the first notes were all Chest? Geoff is crazy, but they are so low that I would have said sub

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +2

      @@triplezgames3882 I‘ve been listening to Geoff and many other Bass singers for the past three years and at this point my ears are very trained in terms of bass voices so I’m able to tell which note is chest, growl, subharmonic or something else. Subharmonic notes are fairly easy for me to pick out because they have a very unique texture.

  • @wolfheart3085
    @wolfheart3085 Місяць тому

    Hope he doesn't quit his day job.

  • @ricksterdolosa1543
    @ricksterdolosa1543 2 роки тому +1

    Bro good job in singing subharmonics. You need to improve your chest low voice.. Keep singing bro. God bless

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks bro! Unfortunately there’s not much I can do about the lowness of my chest voice because I‘m a Tenor😅

    • @ricksterdolosa1543
      @ricksterdolosa1543 2 роки тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 really? But it sounds great😊 keep singing bro

    • @ricksterdolosa1543
      @ricksterdolosa1543 2 роки тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 by the way bro. I am also singing bass. I have some bass covers. Please check my videos. It is an honor that you can give me also a feedback or advice to improve my bass singing. Thanks bro

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  2 роки тому +1

      @@ricksterdolosa1543 I watched a couple of your videos and I wrote a comment. If you want to have some tips I can suggest you to join the Bass Singing Nation (BSN) Discord server. There are a LOT of People on the server and many of them have tons of knowledge about singing so they can give you tips or answer questions you might have. Do you want an invitation link to the server?

    • @ricksterdolosa1543
      @ricksterdolosa1543 2 роки тому +1

      @@jmbmusic1 yes bro.it helps me a lot thank you

  • @Sam2Reel
    @Sam2Reel Рік тому

    There’s no way he can do a G1 with his chest voice

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  Рік тому +2

      I definitely can’t do it but Geoff absolutely can.

  • @gamerboy-in5qm
    @gamerboy-in5qm Місяць тому

    Easy F1

  • @sharkletbrown6903
    @sharkletbrown6903 Рік тому

    Oi boi i can sing g1 without sub lol

  • @WeFareFartherThanDreams
    @WeFareFartherThanDreams Рік тому

    no

  • @Andrej409
    @Andrej409 6 місяців тому

    You are bas not tenlr

    • @jmbmusic1
      @jmbmusic1  6 місяців тому +1

      I am definitely anything but a bass.

  • @nancywessels9465
    @nancywessels9465 Рік тому +2

    goeff is better

  • @ottozambrana66
    @ottozambrana66 Рік тому +1

    Not bad at all...