Leading US doctor says he won't get treatment if he gets cancer after 75
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- Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, a leading US oncologist and bioethicist, discusses why he will stop preventative screenings and other major medical treatments after he is 75-years-old. #CNN #news
My mother died with colon cancer at 82. She refused chemo because " It makes no sense to put one sickness on top of another. " That attitude makes perfect sense to me.
My father did the same. I respct and admire him gratly, then and always.
Very wise lady. Bravo to her!
@@93Jubilee It is comforting to read these comments. We miss our parents but respect their judgement and wisdom.
My mother passed away at 84 from colon cancer. She was told her life would be extended nine months with chemo and six months if not. She chose six months.
Incognito.. I'm eighty and I agree with your mom. Why would I put myself and family thru all that .
My dad died 4 years ago..at 87 the last 10 years of life was one medical nightmare after another..he kept going but at the end..he told me he wished he had died along time ago..he was in such agony..i will never forget his suffering. Rest in peace now dad. Your son.
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Sorry for your loss
@@meannormajean8418 Thank you..he got Lyme disease as well..spent weeks in hospital..having said that my mum is nearly 95 and she is good..i see her often ..cook for her..she is very lucid in terms of her mind..she is still enjoying her life..i support her..cook dinners etc..but it is important to have a family ..who will be there..her mum lived to be 110..rare i know..i love my mum..she took care of me when i was young..i will take care of her now.
Yeah, I’m terminal myself (68 in 9 days), and don’t believe in all these “miracle cures.” I think folks do them out of ego.
I'm sorry. That must have been v.v painful to see😢
I'm an 84 year old retired nurse. I'm with you! Do not want to get on that train, to prolong suffering, wear out my family and deplete my resources. I value quality of life over longevity.
(You'll live longer!)
@@andreaandrea6716 And you'll be healthier if you don't do what allopathic docs want you to do, which is PAY THEIR BILLS!
@@Defundthemasons 3rd Leading Cause of Death! (Although, I JUST heard that it's moved to FIRST place).
My father passed away at 75. He passed away in his sleep. It was unexpected, he wasn’t sick. He had just returned from his annual 6 month trip to the DR. That is how I want to die. No illness, no treatment, no suffering or pain. Here today, gone tomorrow, living life to its fullest
My Dad (at 86) died that way and the funeral director said “that’s the way Gods chosen few are taken”
Exactly. That's what it should be. My elder uncle died at 89. He was still attending office as an advisor. He went to shower asking for his breakfast to be made ready and died in the bathroom without bothering any one. My mother died from Cancer at around 69. She suffered unbearably during last six months of her life. What's the point of such living. My father also died of cancer at around 71. He did not take any cancer treatment and silently endured the pain but it's nothing compared to what my mother suffered. Last two weeks of his life was extremely peaceful by God's grace and he died in sleep. I agree with the Doctor. If you are diagnosed with cancer close to 70, go for alternative medicine, lifestyle control, palliative treatment. You will suffer far less and end result will not be much different.
No illness? Sadly we don't get that choice
Not our choice
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I will be 90 next year, and totally agree with the good Doctor! So far I have been lucky in the health department . I try to stay away from doctors , medical appointments and tests, and do not fear death.. What I do fear, is ending up in a nursing home with a room mate I can't stand!
Yeah, that would be terrible.
You obviously have a lot of fire still left in you - best of health. :)
You absolutely Rock. At 58, with the memory of losing the most important person of my life, my GrandDad, at 61, this subject is obviously strong on my mind. I was 18 and it was the first and to this day, hardest loss of my life. That said, I refuse prescriptions, have kept quite healthy, no high bp, diabetes type 2, etc…etc…etc… I can’t imagine taking 20 pills a day or any of the stuff I’ve seen. 90 is incredible. My Grandmother made 98 and she was something else. Thank you Judith!
What a dark weird interviewer, asking the guest to reconsider chemo when he gets a disease ??? Was I hearing that right ???? Liberals are a disease.
EXACTLY !!!!! comment of the year. Stay away from medicine, they are poison, they will poison you. It's a psychotic cult. Don't take any meds, don't go to any doctor, DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE. Don't even take Tylenol or aspirin. NUTRITION ONLY. Supplementation. Exercise. Move, Saunas. Herbs. Teas. Greens. Eggs. DO NOT AGREE TO ANY X-RAY, NO RADIATION AT ALL. Anything medicine recommends, do the opposite.
I’m 76 and a retired RN …and I am in total agreement with this doctor. Quality of life is priority.
I see your point. You are in good health?
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I'm 87 retired RN . Also in total agreement.
My mother, a retired registered nurse, refused lung cancer treatment at age 75 as she knew the chemotherapy treatments were to prolong her life not to, in fact, cure her lung cancer which had progressed. It was not my health care decision to make as her daughter -- but I agreed with her -- she made a very informed choice and allowed the cancer to take her life -- quietly and quickly....with dignity.
I'm 76 and nowhere near ready to die. Good grief, these are aggregate statistics. Look at the individual FFS!
It makes me sad to see that people are doing this with their pets now, making them go through painful ‘procedures’ - all because they can’t bear to part with them, let them go…
YES!
It all depends on the prognosis, and on the patient's (animal or human) age and underlying health. And that is Dr. Emanuel's point.
I just met a female Weimaraner whose nostrils were amputated a year ago because of an aggressive cancer that would have been unresponsive to radiation or chemo. She was 8 at the time, so late middle-aged. A year later, she's weird looking (!), but happy and active and for now, cancer-free. And she still likes to sniff things. : )
My own dog is 13 1/2, so no way would I put her through that now. But 5 years ago? Yeah, I could see trying it. Just like Dr. Emanuel would go through chemo at 65, but probably not at 75.
I agree we put our elderly and terminally ill pets (and fellow humans) through unnecessary suffering with various treatments. But there is a time and place for aggressive treatments. Deciding when to not pursue treatment can be a rough balancing act.
Absolutely right
My mother's neighbour in the countryside died at 103 years old....she wasn't visiting doctors,taking any medication..
She passed away in her sleep...
wow, great genetics and a certain amount of luck- I think people like that are probably naturally happy and that happiness extends ones life.
Brilliant! (Just read the side effects on the boxes! I won't touch them!)
Lucky outliter
@@thecook8964 (what is 'outliter' ?)
Watch the video. He calls those fairly rare people who make it thru advanced old age, outliers several times, implying rareity
I’m an ICU nurse and I believe that if people truly knew what was ahead of them with Chemotherapy many would not choose that misery.
I couldn’t agree more with you. I had uterus cancer and 6 months of chemotherapy. It permanently changed me mentally and physically. It was successful and I’m grateful. But if it’s ever needed again now that I’m older, I will refuse.
Your opinion should be trumpeted far and wide, after my husband's brief experience with Chemo, I feel exactly the same way. He is over 75, and refused further treatments when he realized it was probably not going to help him as much as make his remaining time on earth a misery. The cancer came back within 3 months after his recovery from the surgery, so he is convinced the chemo would not have kept the cancer away - the time interval was too short.
@@lisaa8795 same with my mum. Two rounds of chemo @ 75 yo convinced her she didn’t want to tolerate that therapy for next four years and asked for hospice. God love her, she was always so vivacious, vibrant, witty, funny and kind. And she was suffering. When the oncologist mentioned she’d have to spend one day in the chemotherapy facility turned into almost every day at hospital either for a blood test, emergency visit due to malaise, blood transfusion, oncology dr visit, it never ended. One medication and then 10, one that constantly elevated her blood sugar resulting in insulin shots. Nausea and constipation. Too much to bear, she looked forward to reuniting with my pop in Heaven. Miss them both so much. ❤
I declined preventative Chemo, my family doctor, my oncologist, and my orthopedic surgeon, all said they didn't blame me.
I did chemo and id do it again
My dad lived well until 84 years with minor health issues, dropped dead from a heart attack after having a fun day out with family - I hope I go like that !
My husband went the same way. I then decided not to pursue these treatments and felt huge relief. I am 84 and in good health and hope I will remain so for a few years. The burden of many of these painful treatments is just not worth it and I have seen enough.
I agree. I'm 75 in Feb & I made that decision too. I am a retired RN educator...... So glad to find a professional who thinks this way too.
Agreed. It’s refreshing to see and hear an Oncologist speak realistically about these things.
My husband died of cancer at age 67. It was not pretty. He was in constant pain, suffered dementia due to metastasis so that he never knew what was going on. He became belligerent and hard to handle physically. Chemo just made it worse. I had to keep working because i became the only breadwinner and maintained the medical benefits. Even with insurance the cost to us drained our reserves to nothing. The burden fell on the children who had lives of their own. One son gave up his schooling to stay home with his dad. All of this during the pandemic. It may sound cruel, but it was a blessing for him to die. None of us can easily remember my husband in his good years. The memories of the end are too vivid. I will not put my children through that again. Indeed my son has already said "I can't do that again". I am in full agreement with Dr Emanuel.
Families get cancer not just the individual who has it. I seen the fall out
that’s awful 😞 i’m so sorry for what you endured 😢 my mom was hard to deal with too & wouldn’t accept she was terminal. it was awful & i was relieved when she passed - for her & myself. glad i’m not alone 🙏
Jan, I too am sorry you and your family had to endure this situation. My greatest fear is becoming a burden on my family and others.
@@resQfurppl It feels like there is an insidious sense of shame for admitting that the death of a loved one is a relief. It's easier to say you are relieved they are no longer suffering, but shameful to admit your own suffering has ended too. Yet I believe that is exactly how many families feel. Making end of life decisions in advance and discussing with your family can prevent needless feelings of guilt at a time we should be making peace with ourselves.
Your husband probably would have wanted to die sooner too, not only to end his pain but also relieve the family from the burden placed upon them.
We lost my mom to cancer last year, and the treatments she had over the last six months of her life made her absolutely miserable. My dad still thinks a lot of her treatments made no difference, and there were a lot of decisions that were made based on the fact that her health insurance paid for them, not because they would prolong her life in any meaningful way.
I can absolutely see why someone would feel this way.
Sorry for the loss of your sweet mother ❤
Same with my father. It was like, "do this treatment and we will check again after this period of time". then after that period of time, it was like"lets start this treatment, and BTW you have 5 different infections caused by the treatment." My dad was 73.......he was one of those people who was very active and wasn't going to hang around.....He was miserable for the last year and a half and he checked out. I know cancer treatment and "success" depends on a lot of factors like age, current health and when it is detected it......but oncologists have been studying it for 6 billion years and the best they can come up with is radiating someone so they can live a few more miserable months.
I'm doing preventative care now since I'm 42. I'm a marathon runner and pretty healthy, but I don't think I'd be interested in "treatment" if I developed any form of cancer.
Sorry about your mother....and my sermon.
See my reply above. Sorry to hear about your Mom. Chemo treatments are the Cash Cow of the Cancer treatment industry. To me, the medical industry's main goal is to maximize the treatments to obtain the maximum insurance money out of a patient. As opposed to truly saving anyone. Which never happens anyway.
@@PatrickOCnMDIf everyone could see how badly money has infiltrated the medical industry there would be widespread outrage.
@@kmjansen Exactly so. It's why there will never be any cures for terrible diseases like Cancer. Cures would be very BAD for business.
I'm not waiting til 75. I question a lot of medical interventions now.
After a career of medical malpractice cases (court reporter), I stopped ALL medical pre-screenings in my 50's - I have a naturopath I've seen 3 times in 10 years - that's it! NO medical insurance needed! In 10 years, the only pills I took were antibiotics for bacterial infections from swimming in the ocean ... My medical expenses from age 55 to 65 is less than $200! I don't need medical insurance - it's a racket 🙂 My father was a compound pharmacist so between him, my own personal medical experiences and the cases I worked on (the worst of the worst), I would NEVER let an Allopathic dr touch me again as long as I live! I will NEVER go into an Ambulance! LOOK AT THEIR SYMBOL, A ROD WITH A SNAKE WRAPPED AROUND IT! The Medicine they have for you is SNAKE MEDICiNE! That is not for me - That is for the Ignorant!
I am 73. I am exactly in line with Dr. Emanuel's thinking. We are very active (hiking 6-7 miles a day, my wife doing an hour of yoga each day, light weight lifting, etc.) but we are not going to do extraordinary interventions (chemo for a poor prognosis condition, etc.). Right now life is great and we are making the most of every day. When life inevitably takes that turn, it will have been a great life and I will let the end come.
Family history. Strokes? What is the natural brain, nerve building exercises?
Also. Foods that are anti inflammatory. Your brain and heart will love you back.
This man is a DOCTOR!! HE KNOWS what life looks like on chemo, etc. Respect to this man!
He must also know that for profit healthcare is a scam
Your right Nicole
Absolutely, it's no living at all.
Not only a Dr but he’s an oncologist, a Dr that specializes in cancer
@@thewitcher8658 hello
My dad recovered from a cancer surgery at 84 . That was over 10 years ago . He is now 95 and going strong !
I am so glad to hear that! My mom survived breast cancer. She was diagnosed in 2005 and she still going strong.🎉🎉🎉❤
Congratulations!! But I wouldn’t want to be 95. But if I m healthy enough I wouldn’t want to go either.
Good for him! As a cancer survivor, I enjoy hearing those stories.
That’s great for your father! When my mother was 88 and in heart failure, she expressly told us she did not want any more hospitalizations. We convinced her into a valve replacement surgery that a cardiologist convinced us would improve her quality of life. She did feel better briefly but continued to decline. She suffered her frail little chest being cracked open and then spent the next 4 months suffering in in-home hospice. I don’t know but if it were not for the surgery she may have died peacefully in her sleep. To this day I profoundly regret my part in prodding her into that surgery.
I've endured the trifecta of pain, that cancer treatment can be. Surgery was the easiest to recover from, chemo is permanently damaging. Not only does it damage all your organs, but if a woman isn't already post-menopause, she is slammed into menopause, as her ovaries are killed. If I made it to 75, and found out I had cancer again, I don't think I could go through more chemo.
75 and diagnosed with stage 1B uterine cancer. Hysterectomy first then chemo. Oncologist said I had a 50% chance of returning without chemo. After 4 chemo treatments am now prepared to say no more. Neuropathy in feet and fingers, constant severe stomach issues, no appetite and losing weight. Just not worth it.
I'm sorry you are going through this. Please read, "Return from Tomorrow" by George Ritchie. It is an excellent read and not too long. I think it will be helpful to you.
Completely agree with this doctor’s wisdom. I had chemo in my 40’s for uterus cancer and it permanently changed me mentally and physically. I made the same decision as the good doctor. I won’t go through chemo or the medical system like that again. It’s too traumatizing for everyone involved. Age 75 is an admirable accomplishment and I’ll be grateful if I can reach it.
I'm 80 and waiting to get sick. So far no medications. I avoid my doctor and don't see him unless he let's me know that I have to be checked for my motorcycle licence, happens every year. I don't have TV or listen to any news. Just feed the local parrots here in Australia so get up well before sunrise. I'm living in my own reality but don't care. It's great to be a zombie.
Insurance shill. Who pays him. Insurance cost are becoming too high so lets get rid of the problem. But that would be diabolical. Did anyone tell you how you got sick? Of course not. Were you in proximity of a radio microwave, laptop, cell phone, Low in vitamin d. and sunlight? Sunglasses? Sun screen? Vax. ? They are not tested long term
I agree, I work in a hospital and I can tell you most drs die at home not taking intensive treatments in a hospital unlike a lot of their patients. Once you fall into the medical black hole of life extending treatments you will not climb out and all you've done is make it more difficult for yourself to die peacefully and easily and surrounded by loved ones. It's definitely a personal choice but it's important to realize that keeping your body alive is not always living.
Have you ever read Plato's republic? It talks about medical ethics and how it's perhaps unjust to live a life that requires constant care to the point you can't live in a fulfilling way,
...not to forget about transferring the family's limited wealth to the medical machine
People are so scared of death they would rather live an absolutely miserable life
What about your grandchildren?🤔
@@politereminder6284grand children aren’t providing the care. They’re just visiting for a few hours. That’s the most selfish thing to keep someone alive just because they can’t cope with death.
At 80, my beloved grandmother could barely walk to the mailbox. She found out she had 3 blockages in her heart. Her daughters carted her off to Cleveland Clinic where she underwent triple bypass surgery. After giving herself time to heal, she was able to walk the perimeter of her daughters 300 acre farm. She lived another 11 years...active til the end. Her only medication was a baby aspirin once a day. We were thankful.
Having a correctable condition is much different than having cancer.
@@jerrycallender9927 Many cancer treatmens are successful.
@@jerrycallender9927 absolutely! Quality life versus just being alive. Difference between dignity and a house plant
Glad to hear of your experience. My father is 84 with metastasized cancer and he's been getting treatment for the last few years. He looks great, feels good and I hope he has many good years ahead of him. The treatment has been very effective and the metastasized cancer is almost nil now. Praise God!
@@jerrycallender9927 people that give up early, without a battle 🤣🤣🤣🤣 u are one of them
This guy is great. I love these kind of doctors. Truthful
Great with the chemo . All cancers can be cured. w/o the poisons.
My stepfather was a doctor. He was seventy-two when he got cancer. After consulting some specialists, he decided to get no treatment and just get hospices care.
Interesting doctors that prescribe various of treatments and pills....are not so keen to try their treatments themselves....
There's a lesson in all of that.
My friend developed cancer at 76. Her max outcome was 5-6 months with chemo, maybe 3 without. She chose no chemo. She died a month later. That month was cleaner, easier, painless relative to chemo. She made the right choice
Yes
It is nice that you approve her choice, but with all due respect,unless there is info you left out, you don't know what the next 5 to 6 months would have been like. My mother-in-law got cancer at age 92. Her doctor told her the first option for her was hospice. Second best was chemo. She got the chemo. She was pretty miserable for 6 weeks, but recovered rapidly and walked out of assisted living swearing she would never go back. She lived another 3 really good years. She drive a car until she was 94. Shame on her oncologist who would have robbed her of those last years.
Me too. My Mom was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer at 82 and she denied treatment, had 6 weeks with us kids and died in peace.
Right wing cnn should post about universal healthcare sometimes. It's radical that they don't
Amazing. May she rest in peace.
@@FreedomisUniversalHealthcare
Would you like to talk about Bernie and Monsanto? Both sides are dirty
Your mother was a smart and brave woman
Smart and thoughtful mother.
Worked as a CNA in a hospital, nursing home, memory care home (worst) and private home (best) All I can say is years later I recall the horrific incidents and how “family” members act. I share this same sentiment as this kind doctor and already eliminated unnecessary meds or tests at age 63 1/2 😇
None of us are getting out alive 🙏🏼
Experiencing the healing harmony of igrotum. A trusted companion in my cancer battle.
What a joke!😅
@@LoveABun Tum.s never did anything for me, OTOH igroweed 👍 😀😀
Happy to hear this MD. I am 76 year old retired RN. I will not take drugs for more life than quality.
My mother got lung cancer, stage 4, at the age of 91. She opted out of chemotherapy and radiation. She went on hospice care and passed peacefully in my sister's home. She said she was ready to go, she had lived a good life and didn't want to prolong it further by doing such horrible treatments.
May your Mom continue to rest peacefully… ❤
Dying with dignity. Bless her.
91 yes, that’s sensible, but many people are still fit and active at 75. My father in law was driving, hill walking and playing in an orchestra at 87. He had a very successful course of cancer treatment at 80.
@@sueelliott8085 The doctor said if his mind was still good, then he would be willing to live past 75, but would take no extraordinary measure to prolong his life.
Bless you for honoring her decision and being supportive. That is the most loving thing anyone can do for those they care about.
I'm 56 and have a DNR. There's no way I'm going to extend a life that includes HUGE medical bills, painful treatments and misery.
What a great video! This doctor has professionally expressed how I have felt for a long time.
My mother in law is 85, her Dr orders test after test, specialist after specialist.
Monitoring, monitoring.
It’s ridiculous.
My mom had colon cancer at 78. Thankfully, it was caught early. Doctor recommended chemo as a precaution, and the chemo was making her more sick than the cancer ever did. She stopped the chemo. She's 86 and cancer free. Amazing woman.
So...the cancer just went away on its own? That's insane but amazing
Your missing a part
my friend had a huge tumour on his ass he was about to start chemo , the night before he ate Mexican food, in the morning the gas was powerful that it fell off now he is cancer free but addicted to burritos
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damn really??? Great for her!
My mother lived to be 96 years old. When she finally passed because of heart failure, she still had her mental faculties. Along the way she had heart bypass surgery around 75 or so, while dealing with macular degeneration, diabetes, and high blood pressure. Her spirit never flagged despite it all. She lived in her own apartment right until the end when she went to the hospital for the last time. She was not a burden, she was a blessing, and never as appreciated as she should have been.
Among the "life lessons" that we impart to our kids, perhaps the most important, are the the lessons about death and dying
Your mother gave you a number of fantastic examples on death and dying
So, it seems to me that she was a wonderful mother (at least, at the stage in her life that you described)
And, just in terms of herself, personally, she obviously carried herself with great dignity
An extremely successful human being!
May her memory be a blessing, for you both
She was healthy didnt have cancer she was one if the luckey ones
Not everyone has this experience
Your grandma was lucky, I’m happy for her.
I’m 37, neurological disorder, immunocompromised, disabled and in chronic pain. If I get a cold I’m sick for months.
If I get cancer next year I’m not treating it. If I get in a car accident, my wife knows not to revive me.
I’ve been ready to go for a while.
@@icarusfx thoughts of comfort to you🚀💪
Thank you doctor. I walked with a friend for nearly 2 years when she had pancreatic cancer. When I got up the nerve I asked her if she would go through the health procedures she endured. She said NO! She said she didn't even remember the first 6 months when she was initially diagnosed because she was on so much medication. The rest of the time was radiation, chemotherapy and chasing all the newest drugs. At the end she made a conscious decision to quit all medication and she went peacefully on her own terms. I was so proud of her. She taught me how to meet death. I love her so much.
My parents both had cancer at the same time. They were 70 years old. Dad went through he'll for 6 months with e everything they could do for cancer. He died 6 months later. Mom did no treatment and lived 6 months in peace and fairly good days. I will be going the way of my mom. No thank you to your treatments! I am now 78 and am happy to go when God sees fit.
My mom is 98 and I thank her for being here.
I am a retired Registered nurse, I have cancer. Most of 2022 was taken up with chemotherapy and a 6hour plus operation. I agree with the doctor that it is quality of life that matters and not numbers of years, At 64, the extensive surgery I had and rounds of chemotherapy have been tough and I am a different person now physically. Iv'e realised that having lots of money, big houses, nice car etc do not really matter - it is family and friends that matter and the relationshis you hold with them, mending and developing the love you share with others...cuddles, an arm about someone's back and a loving smile matters.
Very well said. I agree. Best wishes ❤
A few kind words from someone does a lot for your mindset and healing. It doesn't take much, yet some won't take the time.
Avoid the standard American diet will take you a long way.
I agree, a few words of kindness is so healing. The doctors and nurses here give their beautiful smiles. That helps too!
Agree, but you need lots of money to survive in these times
I’ll be 89 on May 23rd and have no medical conditions of any kind …I’ve also never smoked a cigarette or had a drink of alcohol and I drink fat free milk and not coffee …life quality is still excellent with my wife of 65 years……still have all my “original parts” too and they all work great.
I am 69. In 2022, I had a breast cancer lumpectomy followed by radiation. This early cancer was discovered through a routine mammogram. Gratitude! I also had both hips replaced in 2022 due to osteoarthritis. Again, gratitude!
I'm 67 and a retired nurse. My husband died of cancer 5 years ago. I totally agree with this physician!
Sorry about your husband, cancer is horrible. Doesn't the severity matter though? If someone has something or a type of cancer that can be treated very easily then it probably should right? Of do you disagree with that?
@@billj4525 I believe it is a decision the person with cancer should make after being informed about their cancer and the proposed treatment plan. The older I've gotten the less likely I am to consider cancer treatment. It's ok to not want to deal with surgery and chemo
Thank you Dr. Emanuel. I am almost 73 and I have said since my early 50s I would not undergo chemo if I get cancer. Right now, I have some health issues but none are critical. But when I get a new vertebral fracture and can't do anything for weeks while it heals, my quality of life is nonexistent. Right now I have a broken wrist (dominant hand), not life threatening but I live alone and it is taking additional time to heal because even though it's casted, I can't just stop using my right hand/wrist. I need to pull up my pants, put on my socks, wash myself and those are just 3 things I can't do with only one hand. I don't want extreme measures to keep me alive. I'm obviously on Medicare and I don't want the cost of something like chemo to come out of that. Especially if it means that someone younger might be able to use government to keep their life going. I'm an average person. I've never done anything remarkable. I haven't saved people or discovered anything that makes a difference. I'm just average. I don't have grandchildren who will need or miss me. My daughter knows my position and has not tried to change my mind for which I am very grateful, seeing as she is a nurse and knows all the different things that can be done to keep a person alive. No thank you. I've lived a full life, interesting, challenging, fun filled, pain filled, adventurous life, and when my time comes I'll be content.
😥Your daughter and the people who have read your honest comment will miss you.
You have a wonderful attitude. I'm 52 and feel the same way. Nothing great about me. My daughters have been estranged for three plus years and I have no support system. Why keep going if I feel content with departing.
@@christianmeza4941That's part of life.
Does it matter on the type of cancer? I mean there are very small cancers that can be treated very very easily with no pain at all.
I will miss you, and I've never met you. From an 82 yr old great gramma in Montana.
A lovely young woman I followed here on UA-cam died of cancer last weekend. She knew she was incurable for over a year, yet spent a huge part of her time traveling backwards and forwards to a hospital that allowed her to try one trial after another, with no real chance of her life being significantly prolonged. Much of it made her more sick/was painful and the constant travel for tests disrupted their family life with their two young children. For what? Would she have been better off just spending more quality time with her family?
I've had colon cancer and cervical cancer so I know how gruesome some of this surgery and treatment is. I think we all need to be far more realistic and really think about what's important to us- as this wise Dr clearly has. As a retired nurse I've met many Drs and nurses who have echoed what this Dr is saying. Working in the system, you know how pointless a lot of this treatment is- indeed many terminal patients are treated as human guinea pigs, often receiving drugs that haven't been approved yet- or being in a blind trial where they don't know whether they will be given the trial drug, conventional cancer drug or placebo.
Likely referring to Jenny Apple (YT). I followed her cancer journey on YT as well and it was heartbreaking to see her suffer through the experimental treatments. RIP, sweet Jenny.
@@ellem4067 so sad
I’m 67, fairly healthy, still actively working, and totally understand and concur with Dr. Emanuel.
Me too, I am the same age and can’t see the point of living to be old
I work in aged care. The existence of the elderly in these places tears my heart out. Behind closed doors, most dont know their suffering.
I see the suffering too, I just don't think this doctor has the answer to it. His "I'll refuse everything but palliative care at 75" approach fails to acknowledge that most of what we *already do* for the elderly is palliative care. We need more medical breakthroughs, is what we need, so people can spend more of their lives in good health.
@@squamish4244 medical breakthrough for what? We are expendible. We all will die cant be avoided.
Lost of you also know dretiko here, I wonder what would have become of me if I hadn't stumbled upon his Channel on UA-cam, Thanks to Dretikocure in helping me Eradicate Cancer totally!.
Nursing homes are hell holes.
U r so @@JoeyBlogs007u r so right. My grandma was assaulted. I don't want to not know what has happened to me. I was with my uncle as he died 3-4 in the morning the place was alive. People moaning crying walking around. Like a snake pit lunatic asylum
As a Registered Nurse, there are many prescribed treatment options that I would never personally have done. People are so indoctrinated into the culture of medication and surgery. There are times when an intervention is needed, but I have seen the aftermath of many operations that did not help the problem and left the patient in a weakened state and in more pain than before. I have worked with many patients as they came to the end of life. Some handle it gracefully and have family around to visit and say goodbye, others have feuding families that fight over possessions and responsibilities, some people are just scared because they have no idea what will happen when they die or are afraid they will go to hell. When it is time, the human body naturally goes through stages, appetite fades, a general fatigue, resting more with eyes closed. They are more and more on the other side and less and less in the physical world, until one day they just don't come back. I had one elderly woman tell me about a dream she had after she woke up laughing out loud, this was a few days before she passed. In the dream, all the people she had known in this life who had already passed were having a welcoming party for her, they were dancing, toasting her, congratulating her on a job well done. She didn't want to come back and a few days later she left for good.
I don't know if it was a dream or those who had already crossed over letting her know it was ok to let go. The same thing happened to my uncle before he died, he told me he saw my mom and my dad and his other sister and two days later he was peacefully gone.
Wow, thanks for sharing that story. 🙏
That is absolutely true, those who have gone before us can comfort us before we return back, to what I call Home.
When you said she didn't want to return, I knew this story was true, because NO ONE who has seen the Spirit World, to which we will all go before the end, wants to return back to Earth.
This is a nice place to visit and learn, but I don't want to stay here. Imagine, no aches, pains, sorry, loss of loved ones any more. Never having to think about things financial or anything health related anymore.
This was exactly what my grandfather told me before he died ❤
What do you think of people who die from cancer? Do they really die from cancer or do they mostly die from the chemo treatments ?
I'm so glad you are addressing this topic. My mother, 96, always said she didn't want medical intervention, that is until she was having trouble breathing and was diagnosed with heart failure. They fixed her up, she improved, and now I, ready to retire with plans, must take care of her. She will probably live beyond 100. She did not plan, even at this age, for old age. Her lifestyle is beyond her means. Her body is surviving, but the brain deteriorates. Sun downing is horrble. I expect a long road into night. You need to think about your children and their quality of life, too. I am planning now for the benefit of the ones to follow. My lesson is enjoy life now while you can, and teach yourself not to fear death. Every living thing decays and dies.
My Mother always said " keep me alive. At 94 ( mind was totally working, she broke her hip, kidneys were erratic, was not able to get better with occupational therapy, etc. She resolutely stopped eating & drinking in hospice care ( could have changed her mind). I was with her till the end- very peaceful. Had to do a lot of reading, but since she was in her right mind, had to respect her choice.
My son diagnosed at 41 yrs old of pancreatic cancer stage 4 + metastasic liver, lived 3 yrs on chemo that made sick as hell 😔 After 3 yrs he said to me mom it's enough I can't take it anymore. He died in september 2023, 6 months ago 😪
I fought cancer in my 40’s and that battle destroyed any real passion, quality and purpose I have for living. Just to have it return and live it my life in an endless battle of pain and exhaustion. I will not do chemo and surgery again.
Look into carnivore for women, if you're curious. Quality saturated fats can heal, especially women. I am 57 yrs old
I'm sorry. So tragic and unfair to get cancer so young as well. If someone gets cancer and has to live a very very miserable existence because of it, then I totally understand how you feel. A lot of people feel how do you do. What was so horrible if you don't mind me asking? Where you going through chemo? Was it the cancer itself? The mental battle? All those things have the potential to be horrible. Cancer is horrible, and I don't even think about getting it myself. I really really fear having to take care of a loved one has it or even worse dying from it. My dad tried everything when his 52 year old mother had it. He worked day and night trying to heal her and find new options, and she passed at 52. He said going through that whole ordeal was torture, and probably the worst experience of his life. My mom lost her father to it as well, and told me similar things. I hate cancer, it's just horrific. I hope to have no experiences with it at all, even indirectly, which scares me even more.
Same here and same age. I'm also glad we have assisted end of life in Canada. I don't do mammograms or colonoscopies anymore, not until they find a less Neanderthal way of doing those. We go on Mars, for goodness' sake!
@@francoisewhite2541lol GTFO of here 🤣 please do not listen to this absurd and terrible advice
@@francoisewhite2541🤣😂😂😂 you’re account should be banned for this terrible advice
My mother was diagnosed with advanced Lymphoma at 89 and went through Chemo. The 5 rounds of Chemo were tough on her but she made it. She then went on immunotherapy every 8 weeks for 2 years which did not affect her. While on Immunotherapy we had a big 90th birthday for her, took her out of the country to visit her sister and family, we also went to a family wedding and she had a great time. Today she is 94, doing well and still cancer free. Her mobility is declining but she is still living on her own. The decision to have treatment should be on a case by case basis.
I had mastectomy and a year of chemo at 75. I had no reactions whatsoever to the chemo and was home and active the day after surgery. I am now 82, living on my own and enjoying every minute of life. If someone wants to opt out at 75 -- their choice.
That is exactly what the doctor is saying!
My grandmother died of medically assisted death at 86 because she had very advanced stomach cancer…She didn’t receive any treatment for it because she knew it would just make it worse. She was an amazing woman and she lived her life with dignity right up to the end.
If we all lived like this, with this idea, the world would be a better place I believe
Dr. Emanuel is on point! My grandmother’s doctor told her she had a heart valve issue and recommended she not get the surgery because she was “too old” and the surgery would take a huge toll. She lived well into her 80’s and one day, while cooking, she felt tired, sat down with my aunt and fainted/died. It happened so quickly. Meanwhile, my father in law was told he needed a heart bypass at the age of 80. The doctor said he needed it urgently. My father-in-law felt fine. He walked to the hospital the day of the surgery and never came out. He didn’t die quickly though. It was a month of tubes everywhere and interventions and infections. His eyes rolling backwards, mouth open. And the doctor? Nowhere to be found (busy with other patients) and a “sorry, it didn’t work out.” I would not wish that type of death to anyone.
Heart valve at 80...that's nuts
So sorry that your father- in-law went through that. I agree that some medical treatments are worse than the diseases.
Bypass at 80 is the same as “sprinting” for 5 miles.
So sorry to hear about his awful medicalized end. The surgeon and the hospital got paid by the Medicare and by whatever other health insurance he had. That is what matters to the Industrial Complex Medicine/Surgery 😢
That's horrific. I'm so sorry.
That quack go by the name Mengele, by chance?
An aunt at the age of seventy nine was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer, her doctor told her that she could have a year of misery with chemo, or three fairly good months without it. She chose to go on hospice care and died peacefully four months later.
So would I.
She's lucky she had hospice care.
Brave lady! ❤
My Grandma died at 106. She was very angry that she was saved after about 90. Lasting after 100 was no gift imo.
I am 73 and stopped all "preventive" testing. If I were to get cancer I would not do any treatments.
Research all the natural cures and prevention for cancers and strokes. You won't be disappointed. Research all the meds that cause them.
Agreed 💯
I'm a retired nurse and I've given this topic a lot of consideration. I'm so glad this good doctor has the courage to come out and talk about it because I agree with him! I've worked in nursing homes for instance and personally (I also have a chronic illness) I would not want to live year after year that way. Meanwhile the nursing home takes chunks, monthly, out of the assets of the residents or their families. Last time I checked it was around 5 thousand per month, but that's probably changed. I want my assets to go to my grown children after I'm gone, and I have spoken to my them at length about what I do and don't want done before I die. I tell them that if my mind starts to slip and my body withers to call Hospice. I am very passionate about this topic and I know a lot of other nurses who feel the same. None of us is getting out of here alive! It's best to work on spreading love and peace to others throughout one's life, and that's what remains after we're gone! ❤
What a beautiful comment! I’m also a retired nurse and I agree with you 1000%.
I completely agree. I have no interest in chemotherapy after watching friends suffer and then die miserably. Thanks for your comment.
American culture doesn’t value their elders anyways, so I’m sure your opinion is the majority there, sadly.
I am a retired nurse as well and I agree with you. Quality over quantity
Try $12,000 a month
My friend had stage four lung cancer at 75. The radiation treatments scarred her esophagus so she lived on yogurt only and in terrible pain. She died finally after six months of unbearable untreated pain. It was merciful. No one should have to suffer like she did. She prayed for the end to come fast.
I had stage 3 lung cancer at 73 and had chemo and radiation that also fried my esophagus. I’m had little pain but couldn’t swallow. Lived on milkshakes. I’m now 77 and healthy as a horse and enjoying life.
Each person is different.
😢🙏💜
@@cstuartdc You obviously don't work in the medical field. That's not how it works at all.
My grandma had breast cancer at age 86 and just 1 month of treatments later she said no more her words where I am 86 I do not like how I feel and if I die, I die, and she ended up living to be 99 dying just 2 weeks before her 100th birthday. I think cancer treatment it was kills people.
I revisited this after 10 months and cannot agree more after watching my father-in-law go through medical emergencies one after another, which are not over yet 😢
It’s traumatizing and draining. Hope things get better.
Once you have to care for an elder loved one, you totally get what this Dr is saying.
As a doctor, I am grateful for this message to the general public.
Too often people and family want to cling onto life without realizing what they're truly signing up for.
Every situation is different, but awareness from this video is important, so thank you.
@Jose Not all doctors are the same. Dr Shen appears to be one who has a reasonable approach to patient care. Save your disdain for the doctors who do deserve it.
@@janflewelling6277 WELL..EVERY PRIVILEGED & SELFISH OLD WHITE MALE IN AMERICA OUGHT TO FOLLOW THIS WOKE DOCTOR'S LEAD!!!
@@janflewelling6277 Hes trash
it's about compression of morbidity my dude
@Jose Isn't that the American way ! Greed Greed Greed.🤔🇨🇦
I have stage 2 lung cancer, 65yrs old.i had SBRT Radiation treatments. I have chosen not to go through anymore treatments such as Chemo ❗️
I have been given life expectancy 2 1/2 yrs. I want my quality of life to be more important. Quantity of life isn't important ❗️My oncologist is making sure i am pain free. And so far he has kept his promise to me. I lived a good life and made wise decisions throughout my life. ❤ Death is a reality for all of us ❗️ Im prepared for death and im not afraid ❗️💯❗️
It's not our system that is preventing young people from living to 75 - it's the life choices they make.
My mother died this year and it was relief after years of cancer treatments robbed her of any quality of life. Was devastating watching her lose all ability to take care of herself just to survive another year of agony.
Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are cancer cures. Cancer is/are parasites such as worms, syphilis and candida.
Sorry for your lose.
so much empathy for you, i've watched people suffer that agony. my adult daughter clearly understands that if the time comes, i will absolutely refuse to subject myself-- and her-- to that horror.
I’m so sorry to hear that. I’m glad she doesn’t have pain anymore. I’m sorry for your loss.
@@nonyabizness.original you are both so brave❤
My husband & I are 77. Just did a 10 day cruise, all excursions included walking, walk every day. Have 4 great grandchildren 3-14. Have not gotten Covid or the flu yet. We know we are blessed with very good health So Far. But realistic enough to know that won’t last forever. Every day is a blessing. But there are worse things then death, pain and suffering is one and Alzheimer’s is the other. Should be able to make our own choices when the time comes.
A good friend once told me that he accomplished everything he could by 60 years old, and every day after that was "gravy." It comes down too what is important in life, for me it is my health, family and close friends.
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel makes a very good point about how it is about the quality of your life and not longevity. The CNN news anchors questions him on why he wrote an article on how after 75 years old he would not seek out cancer treatment, and Dr. Emanueal point out that the article he wrote on that subject was to make people start thinking about what they wanted in their old age. His point was how he wanted to live his life. He is an oncologist so he has to see many people going through chemotherapy, radiation, and all types of cancer treatment, and how this deteriorates someone's quality of life to extend it a bit longer. He values quality of life over longevity and is making headlines with his article. I think this a good point that Dr. Emanuel is making since many people are suffering in the last years or months of their lives in old age trying to increase their lifespan by just a couple of months but still suffering and in pain. I think this article and the message he is putting out there can help people make decisions about what type of treatment they may or may not want when they reach a certain age, like 75 years old in Dr. Emanuel's case.
Physicians and healthcare providers before starting any treatment with patients must lay out all treatment options, outcomes of each, consequences, risks, benefits, what they can expect, and how their life will change because of that. For example, for chemotherapy in cancer treatment, the doctor must inform the patient at they could possibly be bed-bound, sick, nauseous, and basically suffering if they go ahead with it, and another possibility could be to not do chemotherapy depending on how old they are. Knowing what the patient wants out of life, and how they want to live their life will help physicians provide different options like hospice or palliative care. This all ties back to autonomy, the right to accept or not accept medical care, that the physician/ provider must also respect and honor their patient's preferences.
If I needed an oncologist I'd want it to be someone like this gentleman. Kind, caring, intelligent and understanding!!!
I won't send my dog to him. This is a dangerous man.
Imagine taking your relative at age 75 with newly discovered prostate cancer, and his response is "Take him back home and let him rot".
Not good.
@@superbchannel3167 He is only speaking for himself and not sending anyone home to rot. Kudos to him for opening a very important discussion no matter how controversial. These are issues we will all need to face at some time in our live either for ourselves or a loved one. Best to make decisions in advance with a cool head than in a crisis.
Well at least he's an honest doctor who admits futility of chemo
I pray you won’t ever have to … the patient that suffers will go eventually , but to helplessly watch someone you love sink after medication ,is a traumatic memory that doesn’t
@@janflewelling6277 he is into eugenics. He also was involved in the ACA
My mom turned 75 and was diagnosed with lung cancer . She went from an incredibly active lifestyle to dying from the affects of chemotherapy, one especially Keytruda in six months. I wish the doctor would have said you have 6 months left don’t spend them struggling with the side effects of chemotherapy
I wish that too, Yellow Dog. This needs to change. Much love to you.
Doctors would never say such a thing. But they could help you make an informed decision. But people with cancer often cling to every straw, including chemo. Right now I have a friend diagnosed with cancer, early 70’s, he’s going through his 6th course of chemo. But they (a couple) are stubbornly positive. “We’ll going to beat this”. Only time can tell. Prayers and good thoughts and wishes are just as important, if not more . This I know from my own experience.
Did she take the Cov Vaccine? It may have caused the Cancer?
@@aldroid4844 no this was in 2017
The Chemo is poison and contributes and many times causes the patient to lose their life, medicine is poison like Chemo, the bodies organs and blood are destroyed using Chemo, it's an 80 year old poison, medicine is insane, their vaccines poisons the body, their therapies poison the body, medicine knows nothing about naturopathy, they don't make $$ from it.
I am an aging athlete, 74 years old. I ran track and cross country but switched to competitive cycling 40 years ago. While I stopped the aggressive riding about a year ago I'm still in extremely good shape thanks to sports and heavy weights. I do not want a life plagued with illness. It would be unacceptable and too depressing with such a high quality of life.
I saw this when it first aired, and I must say I feel the same way. I am not at that age, and even now I will refuse treatment.
He looks glowing with health. But as an oncologist he knows what the treatment is like & you have to love his honesty.
I've been through two years of chemo. Not as bad as something else I've been through, but easily the worst thing many people would experience. I guess I would still do it to reduce painful tumours if I could live a good life otherwise, but if it was just a desperate attempt to gain a few months I would leave on a high note earlier.
I've seen stage 4 patients get a clean bill of health (cancer free) after 5y. His personal choice is NOT a recipe for others to follow.
@@salyoutubepremium7734 He does say in the interview that this is HIS choice and that he's not saying everyone should think like him.
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@@salyoutubepremium7734 It depends on the kind of cancer. I myself am stage 4 NED ( no evidence of disease). Cancer agency says they don't have stats on someone like me and they just don't know what will happen. It is a systemic cancer. I certainly don't plan on going anywhere and am enjoying life. I do think current cancer treatment is astonishingly barbaric and run by the pharmacutical industry who really does not care about us at all. It is all just for profit. Fund raisers and running for the cure are a sad joke. One of my chemos apparently was of the same general makeup as agent orange. The drug they used in the 60s for morning sickness that caused children to be born without limbs is now used for chemo. Chemo can cause other cancers. I am at high risk for bladder cancer now. They hand out candy with sugar in the chemo rooms. It is all insane. But it did buy me more time much like a weed killer buys time for a nice lawn. There is a very good drug still considered chemo that did save me. But I was not allowed to take it until all the toxic stuff was poured through me for a year first. Killing good and bad cells alike and aging me dramatically. This happened twice. If/when the cancer comes roaring through again I know it is curtains for me and I will not be clinging to life with poisonous substances and suffering through treatment feeling very sick the whole time just to buy a few weeks or months. I will have Medical Assitance In Dying. I hope to go out on a high note. Feeling as healthy as possible and with a clear mind on that last day.
I am a retired nurse and I want to thank him for speaking out about this subject. My mother had one kidney and that was dieased. I had her all set up for dialysis which she decided not to do. Which meant her death. I was upset but then I felt she was brave. She did not want to put her family through all of that. Thank for you on this subject
That was brave of her, but I understand her decision.
One thing that concerns me about this kind of situation, and I'm not saying that this was the case with your mother, but I do think it's important that people don't want to die because they're afraid of being a burden. That seems to creeping into Canada's voluntary euthanasia policy, and it's concerning.
People should be encouraged to opt for treatment, like you did with your mother, but their choice to refuse them should also be respected.
i am sorry for your loss. i am 68 years old and in good health, but i say what your mother felt. but who knows if i'd have her courage of conviction if and when the time came. may God bless you.
I think it's so wrong people feel they are a burden because they are sick, organ donation and dialysis in tandem has given many a new life. This Dr is out for publicity, the majority of people are willing to fight like hell for every minute but I agree there are cases where constant pain and a terminal diagnosis merit discussion. My concern is that our medical systems are overloaded already with time spent in hospital for the same issue being reduced by a huge amount, beds are in short supply and pressure is on so why not pressure terminal patients to take a pill. Everything is always about money.
My father did not take dialysis either. He said it’s not good for you! He was 90. He lived longer than dialysis could promise.
What a crappy family.
It is very difficult to decide on this issue until it happens to us.
Some people can live longer after a cancer diagnosis by not getting chemo vs getting it. The chemo treatments weaken the immune system.
I'm a retired Rn and I feel exactly the same way. I will be 75 in May and don't plan on any more 'preventative' tests. I had my left hip replaced 2 yrs ago only bc the cartilage was gone and I was walking with bone on bone. This yr is my last for a breast exam... they have been monitoring benign tumors for yrs now. No more colonoscopies etc. I have hereditary high cholesterol but my cardiac cath came back w no heart blockages... I am statin resistant as well. I saw what chemo did to my late mother- in - law and, yrs later, my only daughter who is fine now. I worked in hospice and long term care management and have witnessed first hand patients kept alive w artificial feedings etc bc family wouldn't let nature take its course. I am not a fan of any vaxx but did have the ones required to get into nursing school back in the early 80's. Otherwise. besides a low thyroid, I am in very good health. I am ready to leave this planet at any time ... my children are all doing well and have great lives. I have done my job to the best of my ability for my family and my community.
What if it was something caught very very early, and not a threatening kind? There are definitely types of cancer that are extremely easy to treat. Are you saying you wouldn't even bother with that?
@@billj4525 depends
Those who think Dr. Emanuel's opinion is "insane" (their word) perhaps may not have personally experienced a high level of medical suffering. I've endured multiple extensive (painful) surgeries, multiple organ removals, chemo, and permanent medical appliances as a result of stage 4 cancer. I'm alive and grateful beyond words to be so, but in 24/7 agony as a result of treatment. I'm 58. If I were to be diagnosed with another cancer at 75, I certainly wouldn't subject myself to more surgeries and chemo. I suspect Dr. Emanuel is being careful in his answers (to not scare patients), but he clearly knows the suffering that medical treatments-even the successful ones-can bring. As an oncologist, he sees it every day, just as I do. And he has decided that he does not personally wish to suffer greatly at the end of life. It's a shame this isn't discussed more with patients, because quality of life-what you are and are not willing to endure to survive-is an enormously important aspect of decision-making. I applaud his efforts.
I've had medical suffering for my entire life, even as a child. Are you saying I should not have ever lived🤔. I've experienced death wishes before, but they pass, and time and perspective have changed my mind on this.
We don't only live for ourselves and for our own pleasure.
First do no harm
I wish my husband's oncologist had been more realistic with us. He kept telling my husband he believed we could actually beat this thing, in spite of seeing continual decline with the therapy. It kept my husband chasing the cure until I finally had to say enough when all of his cognitive powers were gone.
@@politereminder6284 A strange interpretation. I’m experiencing medical suffering myself and do not think I never should have lived. I live for myself, my spouse, my beloved family and friends. None of those people would begrudge me if I opted to pass on cancer treatment again at age 75. They know me, see my suffering, and lovingly wish me only the life I wish to have.
yes I decide long ago that if I get cancer I'll just let it kill me. The thought of chemo is unbearable. My SIL who is my age just went thru all that and it still baffles me they do that to people.
I used to work as a health data analyst, and everyone I worked with said this. We all want to live until we're naturally healthy and pain-free, and once that's no longer the case, we'd cease medications and treatment, which would free up the time of doctors and leave more space in the hospitals for sick kids.
My grandmother lived naturally to 97 without medications and treatment. She gave up the will to live after she could no longer lift her arms up to hang out the washing and do chores. The reason she lived so long is because she walked long distances to work each day for 40 years.
I am 88 and was diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer 2 months ago , had a mastectomy but refused chemo and am comfortable with my decision , my family respects my choice.
I’ve been having cancer treatment for over 12 months, and I’m 48. It’s worth it to live another decade. But if I manage to make it to 75: I won’t be getting any interventions either. Quality of Life is extremely important. I absolutely agree with him.
As a hospice nurse the message it sends is great, individual quality of life is key !!!
I cannot understand why older people don’t choose hospice first so they can live life to the full.
@debbie lazenby hospice is where you go to die
Yea,nah.Whose to decide what is "quality"? It's like a hike,the hills that are difficult were on the trail just for you.Nobody needs a shot of morphine for you to find peace.
Hi fellow Hospice nurse!! On board with u!
Quality is ALL that matters. My brilliant mother lived to be 99 years and 6 months and was healthy for the vast majority of that time.
This doctor is right on.
My father was 90 years of age when he died, but that year he was driving a campervan around Australia, riding a bike and walking to the market to shop and then popping into Macdonald for a burger, he was in great health .
Bravo! Isn't that wonderful to still be independent at that age!
I’m so glad this doctor knew how to deal with the media. He spoke clearly and precisely and started off by letting us know how badly the headline was worded. Loved it
Yeah, we really forget -- or don't know -- that the people who write articles often do not get to write the titles to their own pieces.
What a dark weird interviewer, asking the guest to reconsider chemo when he gets a disease ??? Was I hearing that right ???? Liberals are a disease.
@@nspector , Yes, good point. Headlines, like the Dr. said, are meant to make sales, but there are some truly atrocious ones nowadays, misleading & often downright lies that don't have anything to do with an article.
This man is smart, he's priming the well for legitimizing doctor assisted suicide in the USA later within the next decade
I hope we eventually get it
@@f1u1c1k-y1o1u I hope so, too. My husband is 15 years my junior, and I don't want him to have to put his life on hold because I'm in a diaper.
I have to agree with the doctor on his personal perspective on treatment with a serious medical condition later in life. I am 68, in good physical and medical health. I told my siblings that should I be diagnosed with a serious medical condition such as cancer, I plan to decline any extensive medical treatment such as chemotherapy or surgery and go out with a decent quality of life in my remaining time. I do not want to burden family members by caring for me and disrupting their own lives in the meantime. Thank you, doctor for your stand on this matter. Much respect to you, sir.
He knows as an oncologist not to go through Chemotherapy after age 75 because it’s absolutely toxic and he knows full well there are other non-toxic therapies like Fasting for Autophagy, diet, antineoplastons, etc, that are effective and not toxic, painful or even deadly.
Cancer treatments sometimes causes more problems. You may be alive but you may be a vegetable. You may not die of cancer but you will die from the side effects from the treatments to stop the cancer. It's a tough choice to make.
This professor of Medicine is worth carefully listening to. Excellent video. Thank you.
RS. Canada
My father died of pancreatic cancer at 79 without treatment. Very quick. He was as home until the night before and died in hospice. 1000% agree. Old aged care is an industry, and is no way to live.
Good for this doctor. I took care of my friend who got Cancer at 57. He was obviously dying, but his doctors decided to do surgery and Install an artificial hip. He died a month later after the hip surgery. He didn't have insurance and never paid into the health system. The whole thing doesn't make sense. I've also taken care of relatives in their 80s and 90s. Dementia can ruin the lives of the caretaker.
Why did they do that ?? The surgery took a vast toll and it would never heal well..
@@1953childstar / They don’t care. Money dictates.
@@RBS314 Exactly. Doctors often get kickbacks for performing certain procedures. It's disgusting
@@SanDiegoisnice Its all in the training also!
Just use a pillow.
I love that there are people like Dr. Emanuel, who know firsthand what happens when doctors/hospitals take charge of your illness, and instead, encourage us to weigh the pros and cons (quality of life, quality of care, etc.), and to take charge of all medical treatment and preventative testing ourselves. He's one of a kind, especially for an oncologist. I'm with him 1000% and always have been. Thank you for having him on your show.
Exactly!!!!
That's why you have a medical power of attorney, a P.O.L.S.T, and a D.N.R.
@@Juniper122 YES!! EVERY PRIVILEGED & SELFISH OLD WHITE MALE IN AMERICA OUGHT TO FOLLOW THIS WOKE DOCTOR'S LEAD!!!!!!!!
That Dr. Death idiot was also talking about denying care, or giving the minimum amount of care for elderly people when he was trying to hock Obammy Care about a decade ago. I think he will change his mind when he gets old and sick.
@@douglasreagan4979 to bad people can't accept that they are dying. Can't live forever.
I completely agree. I’m now 81, 30 years older than I had anticipated living. If I get cancer, I also don’t want any interventions. I only want palliative care.
8 months ago, I declined preventative Chemo after a radical hysterectomy/ with baseball size malignant tumor removed. I'll be 80 next year and will do what I need to relieve pain I'll do nothing else because my greatest fear is rotting in a nursing home.
my father in law was diagnosed with lung cancer at 87 and refused to take chemo after the 1st dose which made him very sick. He was told he is likely to die within 2 years but he stayed in good health for 5 years and died peacefully at home with some oxygen
Yes, my aunt was exactly the same. She as a nurse, refused all treatments except pain killers. She lived a good five years, more than double what was predicted, and died in her own bed, with her family around her.
Well, my neighbor is 80 and was diagnosed with a sort of rare form of cancer a couple of years ago. The first doctor she saw told her not do do anything and obtw, you might have 6 months. She went to another doctor and he offered her the option of surgery and then chemo. She did exactly that and is still alive to tell the tale. My grandmother had some sort of radiation cancer treatment in her early 90s. She then lived to 97+. A now 79 year old friend told me she was diagnosed with breast cancer about 5 years ago and chose to NOT treat it. She is also still going strong. I think it is (and should be) a personal choice. There is no one size fits all strategy.
yes this guy is lying
He wants YOU not to get treatment
This is a con job
You americans are SOOOOOOO stupid
They want YOU dead
This guy wants gentiles dead
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Yes, good point, Karen. Though, actually, the doctor here is really, at heart, making the same point -- that we don't have to go his route, but rather be cognizant, know what you want for yourself. And if you don't know beforehand -- you can't predict every situation -- don't just blindly do what one doctor tells you to do.
Yes life is worth living and we need to be careful of this slippery slope.
Breast cancer diagnosis five years ago and still alive???????
My mother did a "wipple" surgery at 81 for panreatic surgery. It gave us 2 more years with her. We appreciated her effort.
My mother had colon cancer at 76. She had surgery and chemo. She lived independently until 95 ½ yo when she past. Also, she was cognitively intact until the end. A fractured hip took her out in 6 weeks.
I am a health care worker. After what I have witnessed, I feel exactly the same as this Doctor! I watched my daughter go through chemo, surgery and radiation for breast cancer at the age of 34. I’m currently 61 years of age. I have a strong desire to watch my 10 grandchildren grow up…But I will not take radical measures to extend my life for cancer and such. I will live the remainder of my life health conscious, but not health obsessed..The disease may take me, but the cure…no way. I’ve seen too many seniors struggle to temporarily extend their lives, while miserable and in pain. That is not for me. ❤️
me too, healthcare worker started back in the 70s ... did you know pregnancy was never classified as a sexually-transmitted disease? Well now you know! You should know this but you don't as a female you guilty criminality aiding and abetting child abuse abortions assassinations shaken baby syndrome crib death drug dealing human trafficking that's children trafficking opioid crisis and at this moment thanks to the CIA paperclip importing Hitler's slaughterhouses a.k.a. hospitals into every ZIP Code little children are being hacked into pieces body parts harvested reprocessed into Viagra so white males can get bigger penises to do more damage is to little girls and boys become serial killers, pedophiles and not go to jail because females have given males impunity blows my freaking mind I go to jail for standing still whereas white males during World War II annihilated incinerated slaughtered hundred million God's children nothing happened except they got statues streets named after them LOL
I agree. RN for 23 years, and I just turned 57. I take one tab of Lisinopril 20mg every day and nothing more. I'm active and enjoy life. But if I ever pop posiitive for the big C or anything life threatening, I'm just gonna tell everyone on Facebook that I'm going hiking and head out to the mountains. Something out there will eventually eat me, and that's a better story than laying in a hospital bed like a houseplant with hoses sticking out all my orifices and surrounded by strangers until the day I die.
Health conscious but not medicine and exam obsessed. There are docs who believe all the breast screening is causing unnecessary breast surgeries. I tend to believe them. What I've seen with my parents during covid, I now KNOW that the governments DO NOT have our best interest at heart, and may be going out of their ways to end our lives sooner. What blows. my mind is how many ignorance there is among the doctors... did they believe all this for real? Or were they slowly brainwashed, or did they politicize it? A little ignorance mixed in with evil is a recipe for disaster.
@@daisy8luke but what effect will that cancerous meat have on the wildlife?
the origin of the surgeon in America goes back to 1492 war against American Native American children, the origin of the obstetrician gynecologist goes back to 1800s when sperm donors began delivering egg donors newborns in slaughterhouses literally morgues ... Run from their basement with the rock of carcass on their hands reaching in to the birth canal instantly assassinating a mother not going to jail blaming fate not white man's fault because white males have been given immunity impunity from beating white females and children to death in plain sight that I can see apparently white females cannot witness their own selves part of millions of years of systematic incest inbreeding rape impregnating animal husbandry of our own species must end ASAP to understand today you must go back to the origin of sperm carriers parasite carriers betrayal of females children and the elderly ... If males worldwide would've respected Charles Darwin's discovery that would've not been a Civil War Hitler would not have been born nurtured given intentionally willfully with forethought of riches blank checks by white females cowardice. I'm 66 obviously black male 40 year family Doctor, graduated medical school 1983 Howard University College of medicine in Washington DC, DC General Hospital was a MASH unit the nurses females taught me the 1-2-3's threes of pregnancy and I've been trying to explain to females males what I have discovered but because all black male no black American believes a black male unless they sugarcoat everything and entice you with riches rewards but know TRUTH.
In my opinion, this dude is completely on track.
My dad died at 83 suffering from dementia. The last few years of his life were terrifying to him, and he couldn't remember his own children anymore. I think he would have been happier if he'd only lived to 75. Doctors are always going on about lowering your risk of heart disease and stroke etc ,and I just think "We have to die of something!"
I agree with Dr Emanuel---at 74 y/o, I'm primarily interested in health span rather than life span. Quality of life is most important to me, rather than length of life.