When Darth Vader Stopped Thinking with his Lightsaber [Legends]
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- When Darth Vader learned how to stop thinking as a warrior, but as a ruler if he wished to rule the galaxy at Emperor Palpatine's side.
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What did you think of the first 3 episodes of Andor?
They were good so far
mid-
It was ok
I watched one ep and fell asleep
Was actually surprised it was not that bad
Vader not understanding the power of loyalty... Something Anakin understood well.
Well..to be fair this is Vader/Anakin after he has betrayed literally everyone and everything he once knew just to save his wife, and then losing her too. He probably didn’t think much of loyalty anymore.
Anakin was completely driven by loyalty to those he cared for. Crazy that Vader lost thar core trait
When Anakin became Vader his Trust issues peaked.
I mean, from his perspective, the jedi order he'd dedicated his life to failed him, mistrusted him, & used him, then he sacrificed everything he'd ever believed in to save Padme, & Palpatine failed him, too, & he ended up trapped in his hellish suit for the rest of his life. It's understandable why he'd lose faith in loyalty when everyone he'd ever been loyal to failed him so utterly.
If Anakin did then he would never have killed little kids, choked his pregnant wife, and tried to kill his best friend.
I can't believe the Dark Lord decided to swallow his pride and listened to other alternatives! This is just priceless.
"Instead of killing those Jedi right now, I'll kill them later"
_--Darth Vader_
@@davidhong1934 He always does.
He's evil and monomaniacal, not stupid. If presented with a more effective way to achieve his goals, he'll listen. If it sounds good, he'll actually do it.
That's why his subordinates were so loyal despite his habit of killing ppl who failed him. The others generally saw it as just. There's several stories written from the perspective of those who served him showing this.
@@nicholashodges201 true but that behavior kept everyone in line
@@davidhong1934 "We ain't runnin' away, we just leavin' so we can come back fer anotha go."
-Warhammer Orks.
You knew DAMN WELL what you were doing with that title and thumbnail.
On me I thought he was gonna talk about how he used a different "lightsaber" xD
@@BlueCharizard same
@@BlueCharizard does he still have one after the burning tho?
@@Bitvivid Cybernetic one
@@A_Black_Sheep94 Basically a mechanical dildo
Did Palpatine not realize that Anakin was impulsive and prone to solving everything with fighting?
I guess he hoped he’d mellow with age.
He was hoping Anakin would learn. He basically threw Anakin into the deep end and Anakin ended up learning the hard way.
Yea Palpatine had been trying to crush that habit for a long time. Vader was punished many times for doing just that, or defying the Emperors orders, or failing an objective out of desire to pursue and kill inconsequential Jedi despite being told many times its nothing either of them needed to worry about.
I guess he hoped Anakin’s leadership when leading the 501st in the clone wars could carry over, but without the compassion of a Jedi. Also, his main goal with Anakin was his high midi-chlorian count making him in theory the strongest force user, so even if he failed as a leader he could still be a good warrior for the empire (even if you think the midi-chlorians are stupid, it’s what’s official so I just accept it)
Think of it this way: the Jedi themselves only ever saw and trained Anakin as a blunt instrument. He was the "Chosen One that would bring balance to the Force", and in the Jedi mind echo chamber that means "Destroy Sith, Destroy Sith, Destroy Sith". Obi-Wan was more of a diplomat, but he never had a good handle on teaching Anakin.
Thus, once he lost his human side, all his natural charisma and empathy for others, Vader essentially became a heartless killing machine that saw everyone and everything non-Imperial as "target to be destroyed", much like the CIS Droids.
*When Darth Vader Stopped Thinking with his Lightsaber*
"Is it... just us?"
My mind went somewhere else ngl
Mine to
You guys are not alone
Yeah what hell was that man?
It’s interesting to see in the early days of the empire how angry Vader was when compared to him later when he was more experienced and sort of accepted his fate.
Yeah, that has more to do with his libido flatlining. I'd be mad too if my youthful pecker had its waifu pillow taken away.
Is it just me, or do it see this as a parallel to an angrier, more narrow-minded Batman?
That's why Palpatine prefers manipulation than lightsabers! With manipulation, you gain the loyalty of your enemy!
Why do you think the jedi refer to the sith "like a poison"? they destroy things from the inside out. They even destroyed their own culture in the same way.
@@darthjc4 the sith are their own worst enemy, everytime
They are close to achieving their goals and win, their apprentice finishes them off without them expecting it.
Tenebrus plagueis and sidious all suffered the same Fate.
I think he considers himself beyond the need for combat. Even when he needs to fight, he prefers to use force lightning rather than a lightsaber.
@@MariaCorrea-mr2gy Exactly
I don’t get it Palpatine says killing a entire population is foolish yet tarken who is under Palpatine destroyed allderann without a second thought lol
Tarkin destroyed Alderaan on his own merit, Palpatine never approved of this
@@exodustimes4266 Palpatine gave him the opportunity to destroy a planet. He just didn't except Tarkin to destroy Alderaan.
Cause when this comic takes place the Empire has been in power for only a few months (as seen by them still using Clone Trooper armour and vehicles), so Palpatine wanted to both keep any atrocities the Empire committed very under wraps, but he needed as much recourses he could get early on to build his war machine.
By the time of ANH the Empire was far stronger and richer over the past 19 years, and with the Death Star constructed he'd simply scare the population to not rise against him. The problem then came when Tarkin destroyed Alderaan (something very hard to cover up) without Palpatine's approval with little to no justification as far as the rest of the galaxy could see.
I'm fairly sure in the comics Palpatine is furious that Tarkin chose Alderaan as a target
@@StuartLugsden im pretty sure in canon he just take over the death star after killing Krennic in Scarif, and immediately test the Tributary Beam in Alderaan, without consulting it to Sheev.
"Destroying the whole planet isn't the way to rule an empire."
A few years later...
"Behold this mighty battle station!"
The death Star was part of the Tarkin docterine, it was never meant to be used repeatably... only to bring fear.
ironic
The Death Star was a hard counter to Vongiformation.
@@andriesbakker4861 Also, this was apparently early in the Empire. So they really couldn't afford to go around destroying planets when they needed said planets' populations and resources.
To be fair,even palp surprise by the news that Tarkin use the death star on a populated planet(not even mention a history rich one
I came here for the thumbnail, stayed for the Vader’s character development
Vader had Attack Dog syndrome, he may have the brawn of a warrior but only half the brain and patience of a leader or tactician.
I think The reason for this is because he just lost all fate and was suicidal and didn't care about anything or anyone anymore cause he already lost everything so No matter what he did no one could hurt her because he had nothing left
Not true. In his comic series, specifically the 2020-now run, shows his independence and tactical mind. He spends his entire time with Palpatine trying to accumulate power against him. And not just finding an apprentice, by amassing an army, or allowing crimson dawn to succeed at times.
@@anakin-is-panakin canon comic vader is just simping for Padmes look alike
What is Attack Dog syndrome?
@@TheSenseiKai the dog will suddenly act argession towards anyone nearby but will be calm and normals within a Few mins
Palpatine to Vader: Give into your anger!
Also Palatine: You need to stop giving into your anger.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think he got that from the Jedi...
Obi-Wan: "Let go, Luke..."
Also Obi-Wan: "CONCENTRATE!!"
@@HandofOmega 😄 true
Me looking at the thumbnail and title of the video: "Don't act like you don't know. Don't act like you don't know. Don't act like you don't know..."
💀
😂 I thought actually it was
Vader stopped thinking with one sabre, to make use of his other one
We need a film about the early days of the Empire,where Vader went on missions
that'd be sick
Don't hold your breath. Disney will always fuck it up. This franchise belongs to the fans, now.
No, we need a good book series. Can get so much more fleshed out and built around a book then even a three hour movie.
@@vee-bee-aEven if they made it really well, every good action scene would be ruined by excessive camera shaking.
It was here that Vader was still the learner, then he began to transition into the master.
When Anakin become Vader, his tactics is more of a brute than a cunning warrior he was in the Clone Wars. Of course this thinking cause him to be defeated by the high ground.
I start to think this moment is when Vader decide not to use simple brutality and started to use his own cunningness and deception to achieve his plans.
6:35
I can hear grievious coughing in a distance. All those lightsabers
That ISB officer can interrogate me anytime.
Major Namada has some nice... Plots lines, I'll say
Ah yes, Onyie Namada, my imperial waifu
she definetly filled her uniform out quite well. You can tell she has quite more than a handful:)
It's really a shame that Disney buying Star Wars and transfering the comics rights from Dark Horse comics to Marvel comics and them making the Expanded Universe into Legends caused the end of the Vader comics in which he had not only her as a competent and loyal subordinate, but also others who were quite well written.
I miss them(including her). They were interesting characters that sadly weren't brought back into canon.
@@nicktubara She is shapes and lines with colours bro
You’re here! Are you excited for Bad Batch Season 2
@@fanrosefabrose9457 so?
This is probably one of my favourite SWs stories as it does a good job of worldbuilding. Though the focus is on Vader it also shows why so many people were loyal to the Empire, the fact that it provided a possibility of social advancement not possible during the Republic.
It also offers a reasonable way to explain how the jedi became an "ancient religion" or even a fairytale in the galaxy over the space of just twenty years.
That’s actually really sad. Jedi begged for help but was abandoned
Sad? The traitor deserved to be abandoned.
@@Ridley369 how was he a traitor
And just like the _actual_ Sith, you played to our weakness; with that title and thumbnail.
As an MBA student, I got all my management skills by observing Palpatine
Blue Jedi looks like a Protoss
MY LIFE FOR CORUSCANT!!!
Vader's greatest enemies from a certain point of view was his own pride and arrogance especially in those early years.
That's a lesson Obi Wan tried to teach him on multiple occasions, but Anakin wasn't very good at listening and learning.
mustafar alone is proof of that.
Sidous at this point hadn’t given up on vader. Sidous wanted vader to unlock his full potential (his Midicholrian count as midichlorians are cell by cell didn’t drop Vader’s mind was broken). He wanted vader to be a powerful and brilliant sith. Looking back at it I legit can’t imagine his frustration with vader
He was actually terrified of Vader... hence the suit being deliberately constructed to be vulnerable to force lightning. Vader also had to draw on the force (in some cases) to even walk, let alone fight.
Thank you! So many people talk about Vader being weakened by losing the midicholrians in his lost limbs, but I've always thought that Vader's physical injuries were more metaphorical and symptomatic of his horrific mental state and his role as Sidious' 'abused abuser'.
"Anakin, as Skywalker, as a human being, was going to be extremely powerful," he says. "But he ended up losing his arms and a leg and became partly a robot. So a lot of his ability to use the Force, a lot of his powers, are curbed at this point, because, as a living form, there's not that much of him left. So his ability to be twice as good as the Emperor disappeared, and now he's maybe 20 percent less than the Emperor. "- George Lucas, Vanity Fair, 2005.
Always love learning something new about Darth Vader.
The Empire: We must look after our citizens
Also the Empire: You may fire when ready
This story about Vader makes sense. He’s a killing machine, not a politician. I can understand why Governor Tarkin was placed in charge.
*sees title*
Zarbon: "Mmmmmm!"
*George Takei:* _~oh my_
@@davidhong1934 Seriously, how do people keep getting on this line?
Perfect Cell: mmmmmmhhh
Someone needs to make a meme using that template of the guy getting thrown out of the boardroom window.
Vader: "How do we get the people to support the Empire?"
Moff 1: "Slaughter their children!"
Moff 2: "Bombard their cities!"
Agent Namada: "Form an effective, competent government and improve their lives."
Vader: "Get the fuck out."
Fun fact: people will rebel less if you do things for them.
There's a short story I heard about once, where a Dark Lord conquers a kingdom...and realizes that he can defeat the prophecy of a heroic uprising by simply treating the people well, giving them opportunities, employment, health care, etc...The more he did for them, the less NEED they actually had to rise up against him! Have to see if I can find that one...
6:15 She looks pretty badass in that Clone Trooper Armor.
Agreed
Yep!
Ah Darth Vader both a combative genius and a being with immense force potential and power. He is a worthy adversary for my master Reaper. Great video
Man in the black pajamas
Oniye looks GOOD in that Imperial uniform
Sidious scolding Vader for being willing to bombard an entire planet until they submit.
The same Sidious that will build two Death Stars, two Eclipse-class ships and the Galaxy Gun, all of them weapons capable of destroying planets.
I think the difference was that Sidious creates massive weapons with the intent that they would be used sparingly, and mostly as fear to keep people in line. Vader was going to kill them without hesitation.
Fear makes people afraid but death makes people angry.
I mean, many worlds started returning to the Empire when they realized the New Republic couldn't stop them and be in good terms out of fear
@@thephantompenance taking out an entire planet is as extreme as it gets, regardless of using it sparingly lol
@@thephantompenance While Sidious may be more pragmatic in that regard compared to Vader, the fact that his solution to deal with rebellions is by creating superweapons that can destroy entire planets shows his lack of foresight.
He could have used those credits and resources to improve the life of his subjects, lowering the chances of them rebelling, or make the Imperial military more efficient, making them better prepared to deal with rebellions across several star systems.
@@lisboah Apparently those superweapons were meant to be used against the Vong when they came invading not against the general populace of the SW galaxy.
*sees title and thumbnail*
Me: “Impressive. Most Impressive”
I wonder what the story of the planet is after Luke brought the Jedi Order back - Basically managing to do what the people started to think was impossible.
Ironic considering the son of Vader pulled it off.
I've been watching your videos since 2017, it's nice to see how your channel has grown so much.
Palpatine: "Man, who'd of thought that Anakin Skywalker, infamous jedi maverik and all around rebellious personality would be terrible at administration! I would've thought the death of his wife and the intense rage and self loathing he now feels on a daily basis would focus him!"
This is one of the best titles only second to the doctor Aphra video xD
I wish vader actually thought this far ahead in his jedi encounters but fire video anyway
Welcome back, Lore Master/Fact Free.
2:00 "You can't win, but there ARE alternatives to fighting."
I blame the Rap Music. The ticking of the hihat constantly triggers the brain with instant reactions to uneeded strife with a feeling to ACT SUDDENLY. The thud and vibration of the Bass messes with the timing of the Heart and Lungs causing undo stress and Anxiety....
🤨
Get up, take a walk, breathe regularly and come back to this video
@@fanrosefabrose9457 he's a deaf mute, who wants nothing more than to entertain you tonight at... Selebrations!
I agree with you but why have you posted this hear
There is no rap in this video and there is no rap I Star wars so stay on topic
@Garrett yup!!!!
Out of context that title is so dirty
I took it at face value at first, assumed he was going to be talking about Disney material from a new comic or something 😂 totally thought for sure it was going to be about Vader getting some nookie, which would be very much at odds with his character especially this early on, this fresh after accidentally murdering his wife.
@@draconianemanations2785 To be fair as far as I'm aware Disney hasn't given Vader a "new nookie" as you put it.
@@StrongandStable17 *lucasfilm
I wouldn't mind her orders
So glad you guys are back. I love your content so much. This is a great story, thank you.
Yeah, seeing Vader not being a selfish man with evil thoughts for once is impressive, but...
Is there R34 for Namada?
Lol at the title and the thumbnail
Wow, the way those people threw that Jedi under the bus in his moment of need is infuriating.
They deserved whatever the empire eventually did to them.
Slithering cowards
"When Darth Vader stopped thinking with his light saber" I thought this video was about Vader having an intervention about his sex addiction.
Always love your content ^_^. Thank you for making my Friday even better now!
Something about Vader's non-conflict methods seems awfully familiar to recent events...
Ever notice the lack of aliens in the new Star Wars spin offs
See this is something countless ppl fail to understand the best way to deal with a situation like this is a hearts and minds approach above all otherwise you have created your own Vietnam
Tarkin never understood this and Vader needed to be checked
when i stopped thinking with my light saber it brought me to the red pill lol
Me with the thumbnail: Vader stopped thinking with his lightsaber *lightsaber ignites* Lord Vader what was that you didn't turn your lightsaber on
Here after James Earl Jones retirement from the iconic villain.😞
I wish this was turned into a short animated film
Maybe it was seeing Major Namada, but this turned out differently in my head.
Disney makes no sense having Palpatine take this position. After all he created the Death Star. So much for diplomacy
This is from the expanded universe meaning it wasn't made by Disney.
Bruh this is legends you clown😂
Man there should really be a series about the early days of the empire from the Imperials perspective♡
3:32
So there’s an alternate universe not too far from theirs where Darth Vader is doing janitorial work in a star destroyer because he was too mad.
This is how real life had worked
Ayo, his lightsaber you say 😉
I mean, with that thumbnail, I thought we were about to talk about the saber in his pants…. Then I also found myself questioning if he even still has one…. 🤔
@@rouka120 Of course..
Thicc VADER
@@TurnedAgainstMe66 now the next lore video should be on whether it works or not after that lava incident….
@@rouka120 I know you can't see my eyes,but I'm giving you a mad look😡
0:50 Holy shit, space china??
I know longer see Vader as an all out scary "bad guy". He is...but now i see him as a tragic character who lost everything and became a killing machine
That title lol
1:34
..............
Is that a friggin' Protoss?
I thought the last time Anakin stopped thinking with his lightsaber was when he found out Padme was pregnant.
I see the slight double-meaning here. Unfortunately, it was not as overt this time, Lore Master.
Am I the only one who thought something completely different from the thumbnail and title
ORDER 66
Yeeeeeeessssss
Maybe the empire could've been more successful if they maintained this kill them with kindness approach.
To heck with Vader’s Force Choke. I want to see Vader’s Force Kick in the Groin!
Vader would make a terrible leader of the Empire considering all the rage issues he had
A terrible leader, perhaps. But I would rather work for Vader than to Sidious.
At worst, Vader would simply kill you for your incompetence or failure. Sidious would torture you, kill you, transfer your soul to a clone body and repeat until he was satisfied.
Imagine if he never got put in the suit
Well he had matured by episode 6
He would be capable eventually
It’s rare for Darth Vader deserve the will of the people
All the wrong things that happened to Vader was because of simping.
I don't approve of this comment
Vader being a low grounder was forever down bad until he overthrew Sidious.
@@darthkrayt5535 Literally
@@TurnedAgainstMe66 Anakin how is your new suit? Must have cost an arm and a leg.
@@darthkrayt5535 If I had an imperial credit for every time someone has used that,it would have funded a new deathstar
"If lightsaber don't work then use more lightsaber."
Glad to see you uploading again!
I like how everyone thinks that officer is hot.
theres not enough deviant art of her.
@@nicktubara there will be..there will be..
I thought Vader falled in love with this hot imperial girl
Why am I thinking about a different kind of lightsaber when looking at the thumbnail
Improved their living conditions? Why didn’t the Jedi ever do that for them?
THE LEGEND OF VADER S2
Can't believe Palpatine was actually reasonable for once lol
This cool video mister the lore master
Intresting
This had a happy ending, awesome
loved this lol I know that vader can be a hard but sometime lol but i love that this shows that he can still be a human deep down. so many layers i love this :D
I still think with my lightsaber
Hi I am a fan of star wars and subscriber I love star wars based stuff
Well I just have a mind blowing idea. Remember that video of all stormtrooper types? Your month your stormtrooper. It's going to be awesome! Really excited.
Someone explain why Imperial women are so sexy...
the bottom line: for palpatine, instead of an invaluable asset, Vader turned out to be more of a thorn in the ass; a hedgehog in his pants.. you understand me, right?
Bruh, you have to stop with these titles.
When proving yourself blinds you from seeing what has already been proven, ambition starts to blur judgment and hinder progress and efficiency in your doings.