Nijisanji Fans Are Making Up Lies... | Discussing The FalseEyeD Allegations
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A virtual UA-camr or VTuber is an online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar generated using computer graphics and motion capture software or technology.
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Nijisisters were using that term THEMSELVES before the selen stuff.
This is a classic tactic when someone who is hardcore into activism and is chornically online. When they're on the losing side of the logical and moral argument, they do what they typically do: Argue semantics.
Why work hard to persuade someone to do what you want when you can make a term appropriately applied to you a slur? That way, it'll be easier to discredit someone all because they committed the sin of wrongthink and said a word you don't like.
It's their attempt at clawing their way to the moral high ground when they're on the losing side after all.
"This is our word!" excuse.
it's crazy how they are ashamed to be called nijisister yet still loyal to niji. like dude you know they arent stupid but this is stubborn as heck
@@luisiana1121Well said
@akira8393 they're desperate, they're losing, they're chronically online. What can you expect?
"Nijisisters is a slur!!" Is the new "calling someone a Karen is a slur!!" now...
My guess is, there is some overlap.
@@zomfgroflmao1337the venn diagram between Nijisisters and Karens is just a circle
@@zomfgroflmao1337some?
and the new ''TERF is a slur'' (said by people who asked to be called that in the first place)
to be fair to karens, they didn't come up with that name
@@knuckles543 wasnt it because one of the first vids to go viral was of someone literally named Karen?
Actual brainrot and crazy levels of insanity to have a Mint Fantome profile picture and then blindly defending Niji like that
Facts
How much ya wanna bet they don’t even know who Mint was 🤣
@@TheCrazyCapMasterOr they know who Mint is and use a picture of her to make them 'look good'.
Brainrot and craziness or just plain malice because you dared to criticised their cult?
@@KureijiOllieZomerade ugh my favorite kind of people 😒
It's funny that they called False's Discord an echo chamber. Sure, there aren't many people with a positive opinion of Nijisanji there, but that's for the same reason why you wouldn't see many flat-earthers an astronomy conference. Even within that, there's a pretty broad spectrum of opinions.
What's funny is that most of their comments were a reflection of their own situation, like their own Discord is basically an echo chamber. Not to mention they hate Raziel and insult her as groomer, when they were basically drooling over the same guy.
The person who said that also had their comments locked to followers, creating a literal echo chamber 🤣
Especially because there are still a ton of Niji fans who are also fans of False. Like, c'mon. If it's an echo chamber, it's the most derisive echo chamber I've ever heard of.
@@signumxmagnumThey hate Raizel because she spoke the truth duh. Like what else do you expect?
Complaining about echo chambers is dumb
People makes fun of giant company making a mistake.
Nijisisters: how could you attack a poor esl worker.
They take things way to personal.
I like how they tell False to get a hobby despite his commentary actually being a source of income. Meanwhile these people will dickride Niji 24/7 for free.
The poor esl worker who is under-paid and -trained by a company with enough money to do better.
we're ok with the big company not paying the underqualified (and probably overworked) translator, but we draw the line at laughing at a spelling mistake. that's just unforgivable
@@tartas1995If they really want their Oshis to succeed they should wish graduation on them not make their shackles stronger.
@@NerissaRavencroftJailbirdAgreed
Also these people also use the F SLUR to describe hololive fans. They call us Holof*gs!
Cover would absolutely be pissed
It's a 4chan thing. Everyone on 4chan is a whateverf*g. 4chan hololive fans are using the same slurs against nijisisters, they're probably just keeping it on 4chan.
Dude, that's practically a compliment. Wear it with pride.
Luca is Transphobic while nijifans are homophobic.
What´s next? I do not think Uki is racist. Ok.. I saw his twitter replies. I kinda understand making fun of white people if you are from Asia or Africa or any tribe that got its land stolen. Uki is either trying to do that EXTREMELY badly or he is actually racist.
This is a classic tactic when someone who is hardcore into activism and is chornically online. When they're on the losing side of the logical and moral argument, they do what they typically do: Argue semantics.
Why work hard to persuade someone to do what you want when you can make a term appropriately applied to you a slur? That way, it'll be easier to discredit someone all because they committed the sin of wrongthink and said a word you don't like.
It's their attempt at clawing their way to the moral high ground when they're on the losing side after all.
I genuinely question how these people are even real, if they even are.
They are not. I worked with black companies to bot control public opinion. Black screen of death video is filled with bot comments. I worked with these programs.
same braincells as saying pencil is a slur... or using pencil as an assigned birthname.
the same question how a vshojo fan exist really
@@akira8393 You mean a company that treats it's Talent well and let's then have the Play Button they earned?? LMAO.
There will ALWAYS be people who will excuse the worst behaviors in Corps and people in general
I would think that two if I hadn’t had interactions with two other cults I mean fanbases that are at that same level of crazy stupidity.
"Let's use Nijisister to call ourselves"... "Nijisister is a slur used by antis for us"... Seems like a multiple personality to me..
it's called cognitive dissonance and contradictory narratives
literally throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
Literally the N-word.
I believe the scientific term is 'Olympic level Mental Gymnastic'
Afaik they're called "Nijisisters" to refer to the fact that Nijisanji has a helluva lot of female fans, especially compared to the sausage fest that is the Hololive fanbase.
It's... Not a slur. It wasn't even saying anything bad.
@@knuckles543
Weak... Cowards... Frauds... ... ... That is what they are. Biological machines.
When actual Evil mocks such incompetence.
People really can’t tell what evidence if it right in front of them
Its not that they can't tell but choose not to acknowledge it
This is becoming too common place - people reject reality for their fantasies.
@@ivanpetrov5255 and water is wet, its that obvious
@@BeyondDaX When people believe in delusions hard enough, things they don't want to see will literally be invisible, as if it didn't even exist.
@@BeyondDaXEverybody is wrong according to them they like Nijisanji declare they did NOTHING wrong after their own 'investigation'.
calling out someone for "being friends with x, y or z" as ur response to their calling you out is the epitome of ad hominem. I think its funny watching him call out the people who are annoyed with people making fun of their precious black company
Depends. Sitting on the table with x and all.
When they break out the -ist arguement, they're out of counterarguments. Seeing as they went straight to that tactic, they don't have much of a defense.
This is a classic tactic when someone who is hardcore into activism and is chornically online. When they're on the losing side of the logical and moral argument, they do what they typically do: Argue semantics.
Why work hard to persuade someone to do what you want when you can make a term appropriately applied to you a slur? That way, it'll be easier to discredit someone all because they committed the sin of wrongthink and said a word you don't like.
It's their attempt at clawing their way to the moral high ground when they're on the losing side after all.
Straight to what they know best. *THREATS* cause totally nothing wrong with that..
@@luisiana1121
It's worthless... Honestly.
And even Evil can see through such pathetic existence.
Evil smiles at these mortals.
@@lizlizbianrosethornsword
Those are threats?... ... ... Evil is amused given their end of life.
sooo, I actually checked to see in there's vaccination videos on LegalMindset's channel... and there actually is a total of 2 videos about Covid Vaccines and the Lockdown on his channel. But both videos are focused on the legal aspects of what the US government can and cannot do when it comes to public health and safety for its citizens. It doesn't come across as overly political at all... its just an explanation.
Also there is very much a difference between being "anti-vax" which almost universally is used to describe someone doubting the effectiveness of a vaccine and having an opinion that medical procedures shouldn't be mandatory to exist on this planet....
So the Ninjishills are making stuff up… again.
That's it , that's it? If this is true some people are making it sound like he passing along qanon stuff as fact.
It’s just classic twitter online addicts making crap up
Not trying to defend nijisisters, but maybe they were privated?
They also were taking what False said out of context. He was replying to someone in the discord bringing up Legal Mindset's political views and indicating they hope False stops working with LM.
Do we know if LM is actually a sociopath?
@@shis1988 I don't think he is..?
The term sociopath refers to someone living with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) - as does the term psychopath. People with the condition might seem charming and charismatic at first, at least on the surface, but they generally find it difficult to understand other people’s feelings. They often: break rules or laws , behave aggressively or impulsively, feel little guilt for harm they cause others, use manipulation, deceit, and controlling behavior. But he is a lawyer n if he does break the law why would he be one neither pass as one ?
Good question tho, but still im unsure why you got curious out of the sudden , is there something bothering you / you're concerned about ?
@@shis1988all I really care about is whether his legal takes are accurate, and so far the guy seems to know what he’s talking about. Whatever else is going on with his political views, I do not give a crap.
Tbh reading that msg sound like he's talking about other person. So idk why people see it for other things.
@@dragonslayer4747 possibly they were trying to get people to target him or other people.
Well to be honest I'd be extremely insulted if someone called me a Nijisister. It would imply my association with that pitch black hellhole of a company and the fanatical cult of idiocy surrounding it, there are few worse slurs I can think of.
this made me chuckle lmao
i’ve been called all kinds of things.. but a nijisister? i’d sob 💀
-Do you have any siblings?
-Yes! I have a sister!
-OH NO HE USED THE S WORD HE MUST BE RACIST
I don't really understand how do their brain work.
@@habadiniI am just questioning if they have a functional brain
@@habadinithat’s just it. Their brains don’t work period. Nijisisters are lobotomites
Those replies look like they came straight out of ig reels 💀😭
Fr💀
@@Miko_123I think a person with brain damage is smarter than them
Here's an interesting thought, to WHOM is the term racist to? Like it can't exactly be racist if there is no actual race tied to it, especially when there's nijisisters of all races. I may have missed what it was tied to but as far as I'm aware it isn't even tied to a race of any form.
They use the term racist because they think merely uttering that word can silence all criticism of them.
Probably the niji race, Nijisanjicus Sisterious 🗿
It's good to keep in mind that these are often also the folks that bent over backward to shield Uki for criticism for all the white people comments. If you're in a different agency, if you say anything mildly against Niji, or if you even leave niji on "neutral" terms these people will go after you and try to eviscerate you.
Quick note: apparently from what I’ve heard he’s not actually anti-vaxx he’s just against them being legally mandated as he finds it unconstitutional which are two wildly different things
Edit: just quick disclaimer that this is NOT me giving my own opinion that way… just making a distinction between the two
Yup. And if we let the anti-vaxxers chose not to, well then the gene pool has a higher level of intelligence.
Yes, but most of those sisters doesn't care because it will destroy their narrative.
Yeah Andrew even explained that the media has been censoring specialists in that field if they disagree with the vaxx but then prop up doctors outside that field like dermatologists. The preferential treatment is very real.
So he’s not anti-vaxx.
Anti vaxx is being against ALL vaccines
This is correct. LM values personal freedom as his political view so he's against anything that mandates intruding on your personal freedoms which includes medical decisions.
Japan, get some fair use laws. Seriously, the lack of fair use is abused so much by companies in Japan, especially idol and Vtuber agencies.
They'll just dismiss it and wave it away as a "gaijin way of thinking" and they'll "never understand the JP way"
Japan has a number of outright dystopian laws (or dystopian lack of laws like Fair Use)
@@luisiana1121 gaijin way of thinking? The snail?
@@burnttoast26 their defamation law for one
@@luisiana1121 Exactly
I’m impressed that some people back Niji this much
The tribal warfare between nijisanji and everyone else is that apparent
They aren't that many though, only a few were active in X, I've seen the same account again and again malding over every thing.
Usually I see Luke in random UA-cam comments defend niji but he gone now lmao😂
I’m not. I mean look at all the idiots who still back VM.
@@BeforeON3I seen Taiz before haha he is another NDF.
Those Niji defenders really need better rhetoric instead of blindingly defending Anycolor with their awful practices.
This is a classic tactic when someone who is hardcore into activism and is chornically online. When they're on the losing side of the logical and moral argument, they do what they typically do: Argue semantics.
Why work hard to persuade someone to do what you want when you can make a term appropriately applied to you a slur? That way, it'll be easier to discredit someone all because they committed the sin of wrongthink and said a word you don't like.
It's their attempt at clawing their way to the moral high ground when they're on the losing side after all.
Louisiana IQ take
@@shis1988 absolutely
Chiquilla, ellas no inventaron la palabra ( según lo que se) fueron las personas que odian la compañia las que empezaron a llamarlos así, entonces obviamente cuando descubrieron que la palabra era así de mala, obviamente querían mostrar descontento?? 🗣️🔥
@@Soratbtx Sólo lo hacen porque les conviene, ya que están en el lado perdedor de la discusión. ¿Por qué ser persuasivos cuando simplemente lloran por una palabra que ellos mismos solían aplicarse a sí mismos? Son intelectualmente vagos. Es tan simple como eso
@@luisiana1121 no, hay capturas de alguien en Twitter que demostró que las personas en nijisanji no crearon la palabra, fueron haters de hololive y lo hicieron para burlarse de los fans, después de un año los fans de nijisanji lo empezaron a ocupar para molestar otra vez a los haters y es el mismo ciclo, obviamente no estan en el lado ganador pero nunca trataron de hacer mas drama?? Solo dijeron que de verdad estaban asqueadas por el término de la palabra, algo que está completamente bien?? Por qué tampoco deberías estar feliz si descubres que una palabra qué ocuparon contra ti y tu misma lo ocupaste termina siendo una palabra mala. Tal vez sea algo para demostrar su punto, no niego eso. Pero tal vez de verdad querían decir que no sabían el contexto de la palabra y no la iban a ocupar más? Si quieres te puedo mandar el user de la persona en Twitter que dio las capturas, para ver si lo crees o lo consideras falso 😺
with the false comments on discord, im not in his discord, i'd need more context, false doesnt seem like the type to openly "dox" someone, but also saying a general area someone lives is not really doxxing, surprise guys doki lives in canada, gura is from the US, mori lives in japan. I've gone mad with doxxing someone stop me, call the cyber police.
Wait, Gura is American? I, did not know that.
Agree
Although I think it’s a bit different since those are public figures who tell their audience as to which country they reside in compared to some random 10 follower Twitter user that’s probably underage
Also I’m in his Discord and yeah False isn’t the type to openly dox someone’s location himself
Doki herself specified that she's on the WEST coast of Canada, so you don't miss her amongst the million of other Canadians on the west side.
@@Swagpion the "where's 3 and 4" didn't give it away?
Like for real here Kindred and Star Gazers are some of the most worse and toxic fan bases on the planet.
Add the Lucubs in there too after the shit that’s been revealed about him lol
@@midnashadow8439Lucubs end up infesting other Mafia covers and it tipped me off to their toxicity early on
@@midnashadow8439I agree and I would. But I am paranoid. Last time I edited a comment my whole comment got deleted so I reply and say fully agree.
Stargazer (ish, I only watch his vods occasionally) and ex kindred (stopped watching him because he betrayed Selen and sproutef bs) and even I agree. Not all stargazers are bad but a lot are and the kindreds, omg the kindreds. They are terrifyingly obsessed with their british milord it's concerning. And the lucubs too. The fact they can support him and send death threats to the girl is wilddd
@@ItzZotakuHey I know some aren't all that bad. Sorry if I am generalising. At least it is good you have common sense^^
Honestly False acting like that is pretty mild. Him being harassed for dunking on a billion dollar company is ridiculous.
Nijisanji goes far beyond the Salen thing, even before it happened. Holding a company accountable isn't some kind of 'fad', especially if the company CONTINUES to do bad things.
Blizzard is a great example of this.
4chan users posting slurs is just 4chan being 4chan, they call everyone slurs. Niji fans came up with the Nijisisters term themselves.
Though if they insist on people not using it, I don't have no problem at all calling them "bad people that support a black company that is okay with corporate abuse, bullying, favoritism, sexual discrimination, and racism," but that doesn't roll of the tongue as well.
burakku kigyou sapota. which means black company supporter.
using 4chan posts as a way to prove yourself is absolutely insane cause you're proving that you're chronically online LMAOOO
@@quinn5208 4chan is basically just social media like twitter or facebook, just more anon.
@@signumxmagnum ik what 4chan is, i just find it a bit funny
A bunch of other people made the connection that there's an uncomfortable amount of similarities between Nijisister behavior and Kpop stan behavior, and now it's moved from "odd similarities" to "100% the same behavior." This sounds like a terrible thing to say, but at this rate I do hope that Anycolor [the company] has to deal with the same problems that Kpop labels have to deal with, and I hope the talents are able to jump ship before that happens.
Reminds me of JPop as well I hear Jpop and Kpop idols had really creepy 'fans' (I don't them fans cause they don't really respect their idols.)
@@yesthatmousyiris4887 This particular group of people are also prone to throwing around slurs and always acting like the victim, including the very same talking points about turning a regular word into a slur against them. It's completely exhausting.
What if I told you, that if False did correctly points out the timezone of whoever he was referencing.
This people are wayyyy to young, both in age and in maturity, to actually realize that Niji's business practice and ANY IDOL INDUSTRY THAT DOES BLACK COMPANY THINGS TOWARD THEIR EMPLOYEES is not it
Yeah that’s just… vtubing in a nutshell… it compiles the worst parasocial fans into one place: streamer fans, idol fans, anime fans, and gamers. The worst of the worst in those groups AAAALLLL come together to make THE worst of the WORST parasocial freaks
While Hololive got the unicorn fans of female Jpop idols, Nijisanji got the rabid fans of male Kpop idols. Makes sense.
Of course, these is not all of their fans, just the loud minorities that often makes drama every time.
4:33 Did a little bit of research, doesn't seem to be the case that he's anti-vaxxer. The furthest he went is saying that restricting services you can get (hotels or air travel) just because you're not vaccinated is legally questionable.
It's also only questionable when it's government mandated, private businesses can still refuse service
@@Lilith-Rose Private businesses shouldn't have any access to your medical history
I feel like in a global pandemic it is completely justified to deny access to a potential germ ticking bomb from certain public spaces
Freedom without laws is just anarchy
also adorable how youtube (or this channel) is going out of it's way to censor and delete my posts. Man people are afraid of the truth. Even when it's a truth that agrees with and benefits them. Weird.
What False said wasn't even racist. Nijisisters are just soft.
Uki anti-white stance attracted the same kind of people, so no wonder they support him even more.
Here's another Nijisanji slur!
TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN TAIWAN!!!
Nijisanji is in bed with the CCP due to simply having ties with Billibilli. it's inescapable.
It's funny you bring that up after what happened to Coco
YOUR CREDIT SCORE!!!
Vox doesn't like this
@@JoeldaSilva-ef7xt Except Hololive stood by her, in the process axing the Chinese Hololive branch whose livers participated in attacking her, and lastly it was her own choice to amicably leave
If the same happened in Niji you better bet they'd terminate the talent with a heap of slander ASAP
Nijisisters mad they're being called out regularly for their wrongdoings, bunch of cowards.
Bro the term racism means nothing thanks to Twitter
it still means a lot if u dont live on twitter
The people who accuse people of that are projecting.
It gets tossed around EVERYWHERE. It is almost never true. Literally.
a lot of terms carry no weight on Twitter, people really just throw words around without even knowing what it means
it’s worrying tbh because it causes a lot of false alarms and makes people brush actual racism under the rug more
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Ooo! Khyo giving zero F's here. The guy sounds so done with Niji drama, and I honestly can't blame him. But pulled no punches towards the end there 😂
Anyone trying to use 4chan screenshots as evidence for anything can be safely ignored.
He didnt even dox them. He just said what timezone they were in, and just guessed the country.
Granted, he should have just said the timezone, given that there are definetly more countries there, but still.
At this point? Niji stans are just digging their grave deeper and deeper. They're basically saying "How dare someone use something we used to describe ourself with because now it means we support a bad company because we do :("
As a hololive fan true we have or unicorns but unlike niji sisters hololive fans would never support an agency like niji sisters do with nijisanji. We saw how hololive responded during the coco graduation and Aloe drama imgaine how they'll responded if a hololive talent was going through what dokibird and sayu went through.
like when Rushia recently attempted self harm
Imagine the NIJISANJI stans going against Hololive talents for debunking NIJISANJI’s reputation.
No fans other than Nijisisters support their company of choice in such a toxic way in all of Vtuber history. They need to read the room and realize that they are the prime source of toxicity.
@@jimmytsunami5275 well nazuna is not part of holo when she attemp self harm
It's not like Niji didn't have any unicorns, see Vox's fanbase.
@@ElChocoLocoDeLaVega Worse, they were bicorns.
Imagine AnyColor attempting to sue the guys in the hitlist as well as their own talents for going on their PL accounts.
Imagine if AnyColor SUES Cover for running a better VTuber agency than NIJISANJI
Nah, I don't think they'll do it.
About current Holo-Niji drama, the anti-slander joint statement is now just another Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact since NijiJP mod's Suisei trip 💀
@@farhanrizkiahnafa7404 fun fact, that fell through when Germany decided they could beat the soviets.
It's not a Slur it's the whole Nijisanji Fanbase name...
"its been like over a month since selen" implies that they only saw it as a hot topic, rather than the mistreatment and mismanagement that it indicates.
Khyo I hope you realise one thing, and that is that the Nijisisters basically managed to move the conversation away from what it should be which was basically that a company that bring in millions in profit every year hires teens at minimum wage to do work that should be done by someone with experience in the field of translation at a higher rate, Niji could still hire teens as part time workers but pay them a higher wage and set up a proof reading department that makes sure mistakes are caught before they are published online.
I think the attention should be on the fact that Nijisanji looks at every corner they can cut and who they can get away with fundamentally exploiting for the sake of driving up profits, if you are a small business and can't pay someone a higher wage and hire part time minimum wage workers that makes sense if you are a small business, but Nijisanji is a massive international company with 3 different language branches of their business they should not get away with doing this kind of thing.
The Nijisisters basically used the argument of False mocking an ESL translator to pull attention away from what he was saying which was to point out that Niji is hiring teens part time workers at minimum wage to do their translation work which is not acceptable for a massive company to do, these kinds of hiring and employment practices perpetuate the cycle of devaluation of labour, which is a massive problem that our generation has been suffering from, we are paid less than what our grandparents would have been paid (accounting for inflation and purchasing power reduction) for the same kind of jobs while being expected to do more work than they did, we are a generation being exploited and it is companies like Nijisanji that continue to perpetuate this status-quo, it is entirely out of greed as there is no reasonable explanation or argument to do this, nothing else other than to continue feeding the investors growing profits year on year.
This comes from the same people that gave us "Selen vs Niji" - _A different truth_
That Ducky is just an insult to Journalist profession. Recently she tried to justify the fall of Nijisanji with an image of Cover vs Anycolor graph going down for recent year, trying to steer people, hey this is just happening with all company. But the truth if you look at exactly a year and 5 year comparison, Cover was rocketing, while Anycolor is plummeting.
The shy lily thing activates neurons
lol
even some natural sensors, Womp womp 😏😏
They were using it before us. they are trying to pull a Finana now
"EduCaTE YoUrSeLF"
Nijisistets: Don't call us that, it's a slur!
Marginalized people who have been called slurs since forever: **bombastic side eye**
On the Legal Mindset allegations.
Legal Mindset did a legal analysis on the constitutionality of the vaxx mandate. It's not his opinion (I'm not sure wether he ever disclosed his personal opinion on it).
People forget that when a lawyer explains the law they are not defending or advocating for it. They are just explaining what is legal or not according to the current laws.
Also this is just a tactic to change the topic. Claim that other person is XYZ in order to discredit their opinion (or in this case even the opinion of someone that knows them).
PLEASE do not start a vaxx discussion here, it's not relevant and doesn't lead to anything positive!!!
I'm questioning how many of us are mature enough to have such a discussion anyway. People couldn't even question mandated medical experimentation.
This drama is absolutely stupid, anyone can make up any reason to make anything a slur. It's unfortunate that commentators and news channels always get harassed just because they cover something that sheds a bad light towards something these people like. False is mainly innocent and we just have these sad pathetic people who have no worth in society like NBinted thinking that they are Robin hood by "exposing" the big guys for being bad people.
It's a tactic to dissuade people from using the term as a label because it's catchy and fitting. Succeeding in doing so makes it harder to discuss their heinous behavior
Im leaving the community, it used to be such a comfort place for me but after all the shit that's gone down, watching vtubers after all this drama is so tiring
Calls Falses discord an echo chamber, and yet he associates with different people with varying views and perspectives. While the Nijifans discredit anyone who has had any association with anyone being critical of the company or had differing views in the past. The irony is blatant.
Fucking FalseEyeD is tanking the whole Nijisisters community all by himself and still came out on top. What a legend.
As you said the mistake isn't really the issue, instead its indicative of a company that refuses to do what is necessary to operate in the EN sphere.
false is being childish and the people hes qrting are childish. just a lose-lose situation but hey, thats twitter
also calling sisters a slur is absolutely drama baiting and trolling, opinion discarded lol
I'm not suprised though
As soon as ducky supports any position I am inclined to toss it out as bs....works as a good bs detector that one
“Rules for Thee, not for me.”
Perfect sentence to describe NijiLs.
Reminds me of a crazy person saying
“Everything is homophobic, everything is transphobic, and you just have to call it out.”
NijiStans will call any term you use to mention them a slur.
Even if you call them a Niji-Sandwich or some ordinary thing will become a slur to them.
Evil hates sunlights.
As long as you expose their behaviors, they will scream and play the victim card.
"When playing the victim simply isn't enough, make something up and use it to play the victim even harder."
~Nijisisters
Ngl, pushing having the word Nijisisters as a slur to the level of the N word with the hard R or the F word has to be the most insane idea these people have come up with.
2:51 the comment about "highschoolers can take comms". They're not even hiring high schoolers. Their conditions were students who belong to a university, graduate school, vocational school, or technical school and they're requiring them to work for 5 hours a day for minimum wage. How are the university students able to pay for school and living expenses
10:07 'and will not get it out of their mouth' were you silent or SILENCED 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yay, degrading the term “slurs” is fantastic! Now, actual offensive slurs with a lot of historical meaning and minority oppression wont be as offensive!
So glad the -Nijisisters- I mean, the parasocial-ignorant-fans-of-Kurosanji-who-support-their-oshis-through-racism-and-crime-which-is-a-reflection-of-their-own-views are allowing us closer to solving equality 🥰
10:05 holy moly, never I expect the day I hear khyo said the word.
And considering how wild/hardcore fans can be, this is honestly not surprising
Yes I think he really should be able to defend himself even against those low follower accounts, however I do feel that he should block and mute the particularly cancerous ones as there really is no benefit to engaging with someone who has nothing better to do than argue with someone online.
It's up to the Niji itself really. If they're doing bad things, the community associated with them will be seen as bad. If they're doing good things, the community will be proud about being associated with them. They're being mad is just an evidence that they themselves understand that Niji is doing bad things and any name associated with them is also becoming bad. In other words, they're just coping.
Im convinced thay nijisanji stans have never touched grass
While i think that False shouldn't have assumed they were SEA (without showing where the proof of the 4chan mass hate was coming from) is wrong. However. Its also wrong to think that just because he has a large following means that he should roll over and take the hate. Aamondgold defends himself and his views on his streams all the tine, and he admits when he is wrong. So why cant False defend himself using things the haters have said to him? Hypocrisy at its finest.
"Pray you find a personality other than Niji Bad" My sister in Niji, that's the journalist's job.
I think False is in the right to call out a company
But I also think he was childish for going on some petty beef with random Twitter teens. Overall you can have the right opinion but also have the wrong way of going about it
Ducky is as much a "Vtuber journalist" as I am an detective...
ello, master wayne....
Thank you for the explanation. I thought Nijisisters was the term used for the very rabid Fujoshi side of the niji fandom.
False losing himself in the character a little, this only legitimizes crazed niji apologists. Nothing wrong with defending yourself, but if you respond to all 10 follower teens with nothing better to do than spend their whole days on twitter, that's what you'll end up doing as well.
Oh, and anti-vax isn't a political thing (or at least it shouldn't be), it's a moron thing. Politicians made it political, as they do with everything they don't like, to polarize the subject and avoid discussion. Let's not fall for it every time.
Is it racist to point out a country? Bruh. Also Nijisisters are afraid of their own title lmao
People calling the spelling error situation, when responding directly to False's tweet, calling it a nothing issue, is like noticing smoke in your house, and when people outside call to you saying that there's a fire in your house, you respond with "it's just smoke don't worry"
what's the anthropology of nijisisters? negligible bone structure?
Twitter discovering 4chan lingo is always funny lmao
Ducky is a real piece of work. Almost anything that spews out of his mouth can and should be immediately discounted.
Can't say I'm that surprised that False went off at random people attacking him when he's been increasingly a victim of that from them for the past couple of months. Yeah, it's easy to call that childish behavior from the outside looking in, but dealing with that kind of emotional buildup that kind of situation causes will always lead to an outburst.
The creation of the false (ha) dichotomy between emotion and logic, always with the personal assumption that the person wielding it is the pious rationalist and their opposition but an emotional brute, is a cornerstone of hate-movements, from the petty to the apocalyptic. And people like that will always poke the people they wanna destroy with a very pointy stick till that person backhands them so they can cry victim (playing to a crowd that will ignore the torment they've caused for the sight of the cartoonish handshape on their face {that they drew themselves}).
Those kind of emotional outbursts like False did are perfectly natural things people do. You can step back after your head has cleared and realize what you did doing it was pretty dumb and make steps not to fall for those particular pitfalls again, but you can't 'improve' on not having outbursts like that again. We're all emotional beings and logic/rationality isn't the opposite of that, it's the justification.
By agreeing to the notion that having any kind of emotional outburst (even in the way of 'well they could've phrased it better) is some kind of moral failing, even if you're otherwise trying to argue against the person using it as justification to attack people, your just letting them get away with it and keep claiming they have the moral high ground.
The social and moral contract social media like Twitter is vague to nonexistent and trying to exist in it is like walking through a minefield. There is no knowing what the 'right' or 'wrong' thing thing to do or say is because there's a million different people with a million different views on what 'right and wrong' even is.
And that's just a pitfall well-meaning people who will actually bother to learn from it fall into - the people like the Niji-sisters are very much trapped in it too. They are just people having emotional outbursts that are being mistreated by people using the emotion/logic dichotomy against them in equal measure. And that becomes a toxic feedback loop between both sides.
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Social morality is just a big stick to hit people not within your chosen power structure with.
Anyway, sorry for the philosophical dump. This is a topic I've been pondering on for years now (since the Lindsay Ellis Reya incident) and this just happened to let me unload that idea in one place.
False was a bit childsh, and unfortunately him going to discord to speak there instead of tackling the twitter user right on only gave more ammo to the nijisisters. About LM/Andrew, he isn't anti-vaxx, he was just against the mandated vaccine thing back in 2020, he was looking at it from a legal standpoint, and reasonably being doubtful of it (before I'm labeled as a nutjob, I got the vaccine). In the NijiSEAsters area... It's a common thought/joke that most Nijifans nowadays are not only women, but also from the East, since Niji basically lost its audience in the West after recent events. Was that racist? I don't see how that was racist. Could it be seen as disrespectful or weird? Probably.
Now, the term Nijisisters being offensive? Pfff
I won't ever get "the vax," because I don't inject things into my body that haven't been around long enough to know long term results. I'd prefer you call me a nutjob than submit myself to medical experimentation, especially in a completely unproven field.
I get a kick out of the people who will make a 5 post presentation to tear into someone who pissed them off but then have the gall to "Not that I wanted to do any of this"
Or the legendary "I don't want to pour gasoline into the fire but..."
With the weird civil war going on seems like peeps are lost on both sides. What is the goal with all of this, like what are we aiming to achieve? We all know the company isn't going to change, they're already proving it by covering up with 3d debut.
Like do we want an apology from Nijisanji or... I don't get it
If it's not going to comply with fundamental labor law and ethics overseas, then it doesn't need to be operating in EN markets.
Personally I want nijisanji to be disbanded but thats just me
@@cakeCrumbzz For the non nijisanji supporters, they want the company to collapse even though its literally impossible because they still make money and you can thank Kuzuha and others for that. For Nijisanji they just want to keep the status quo while ignoring all the haters. This civil war isn't going to end so you may as well just go with it.
Imo for those in Niji to leave so they can be safe and free
To quote John Mulaney "If you're comparing the badness of two words, and you won't even say one of them. That's the worst word."
The level of brainrot when people defend corporations, literal sheep that don't understand who is on the chopping table.
Like for real here Nijisisters are on a level of unhinged if they really want their Oshis to be happy they want them out of Niji.
As a person who doesnt like false why come up with lies
Welp, when you get someone cornered, they will fight back with their life. Just like Nijisisters right now man. They can’t avoid drama anymore so they will fight with all cost.
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Alright, then call them niji shills, niji cultists, MAGAs (Make Anycolor Great Again)
Always seems to be the way with these lot, that even if they initiate a term, as soon as people are able to start spinning it as an insult their only reaction is to burn it down, rather than address why it might have been twisted back on them -_-
Nijisisters are lying AGAIN? When will we be done with this? When will they learn to accept that they were wrong?
(Rhetorical question by the way)
Yeah its Rhetorical but at the same time, don't expect an end anytime soon
Commentator vtuber being a main topic for another commentator vtuber das crazzyy
NIJISISTER NIJISISTER NIJISISTER
I'm racist/sexist now btw. 😅😅
A person doesn't like their nickname and asking others not to call them that. Understandable, what can I say; I might have been the same, when I was 9...
... Legal mindset being a normal person questioning the ethics and effectiveness of something is a bad thing. Like, when did we lose the morals of questioning everything? Not trusting a thing you read and making sure to find multiple sources for something? Like... Legal mindset is only thinking critically... That's a bad thing?
These are the same people who call dokibird "d00kie" and try to excuse nijisanji driving her to suicide twice by claiming she's bipolar and difficult to work with, without sourcing their claims.
Damn just as I was going to bed-
He (or she)'s saying all that while having Mint as profile picture. THE IROOOOONYYYYYYY 😂
"No Patrick, Vtubers are not a legally protected class."
Eh didn't legal mindset just talk about legalitys regarding Forced vaxing etc. and ppl spinning that to anti vaxx lol
No it’s not a slur continue using it people. Carry on.
I use Niji-tard. Simplifies the system
"The problem is people pointing out the problems/misconducts, not the people doing it"
-Kurosanji fans
Calling sisters a slur is wild granted i refer to my siblings with slander in non formal situations but still