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Both Matara and Michi have said that they were surprised that Vshojo’s management actually did their job. It’s actually amazing how incompetent Niji’s management is.
You know what else? It is so good Vshojo management can banter and mock Mika and she would mock management true banter with each other just like Rin with Idol's management in the parking lot even Idol's CEO. If you can banter back and forth between talent and management that say something it shows they are human that won't take it personal unless you really became a problem. Nijisanji management could never lol. Same for some Niji livers and Nijisisters who take small things personally.
@@lizlizbianrosethornsword It's also human to become too prideful, narcissistic and take things too personally while focusing solely on greed. It is the bad aspect of being human. That is Niji's focus.
Vshojo's focus is the good aspects of human nature where they don't focus on their pride and ego. They focus on becoming supportive, sympathetic, and understanding to their talents.
well, school kids as managers isn't gonna work THAT well ..
@@luisiana1121 I think that Vshojo went through some growing pains, but instead of focusing on the bad right from the Nux Taku drama, Gunrun seems to have focused on what could be learned and improved upon.
@@EndoftheBeginning17 Vshojo fucks up, they learn from it and improve.
Hololive fucks up, they learn and improve.
Kurosanji fucks up, doubles down and fucks up even more.
"She didn't come from a very good place..."
They're not even being subtle anymore
Michi literally had a PTSD flashback when she picked up a big nail.
@@useraccount333 what was the nail thing about?
@@erfanthered9801 A large nail through the head was one of Michi's previous identity's most prominent features.
Vshojo adopting from the Nijisanji graduation centre.
at this point i don't think its adoption as much as it is offering better contracts. Mata, Michi, and Kuro all left niji voluntarily, mata and michi left because they felt they copuldnt go anyt further in company. Kuro felt like niji had lost its magic and wasn't having fun there anymore. Its not like niji it telling them they need to graduate. and with everything we've learned at this point about niji i dont blame them. vshojo offers more suipport to their talents and more freedom to let them do the things they want.
Its more like a rehab center than anything.
Vshojou: for us niji is free real estate
>Nijisanji graduation centre
name it what it is - "VShojo Training Academy"
@@absyrtus3707It was definitely the case with Kuro who was in talks with VShojo months before he graduated as Mysta and basically had his new model ready to go pretty much immediately.
its not an adoption its a rescue
"Welcome back..."
*sudden realization*
"Welcome to my first debut!"
We all remember the 'dayo incident' during Henya's debut which removed all shadow of a doubt who she was previously, but from both the lore and the 'welcome bac-', Michi definitely claimed the any % speedrun of revealing a past beloved vtuber has reincarnated and is back record.
@@ChrisHilgenbergAlso totally not simping hard on Ollie to the point she sniffed her room so hard till she sneezed. Yup, totally not Mika. 😆
"We/you could always just f-ing ask (for the YT play button)." -Clout Scratchmark, 2024
And I am damn surprise Claude was allowed to Collab with Altaire. If I were Yagoo I would deny the collab. Like call me controlling or whatever but I wouldn't let my talents go near a simp for a company that cares for none of the livers.
Clout Scratchmark is crazy
I'm hope Altare can troll about this
@@lizlizbianrosethornsword Actually having Claude collab with Altaire is a good thing. It can show no-confidence-in-myself Claude what can occur when you don't work for a black company
Oh yeah there seems to be an increase in niji and holo collab lately is it that dire in the yacht
im not gonna lie. When she was mentioning how speedy everyone is at Vshojo with work and how she would send stuff expecting to get the result WEEKS LATER. It really makes me question what the heck actually goes on in Niji offices. Like are they just playing darts 24/7 or something?
she wasnt not in EN.. she was in ID and folded into the JP side... dont think she knows JP well enough to talk direct to em... so need to go thru translators... also dont think ID or what was left of it was high priority in the JP offices.
@@8ettieP46ewhat baffles me is that why tf they merge id into jp instead of en? I mean, most, if not all id talents can speak good enough english, i.e practically zero language barrier, so it'd make way more sense to merge id into en than jp
@@8ettieP46e Dude, it's not language barrier, because she was able to talk to the manager in JP even with translators, like do you think translator would need a week just to translate.
@@8ettieP46eJust makes the Main branch look like garbage too tbh. Probably is considering how bad they allowed EN to get.
@@8ettieP46e Even some of the JP members aren't high priority in the JP office. If you're not part of the top earners in Niji, then you don't exist.
Michi speed runing for her 100k playbutton
A button she can touch and keep. Watch out Michi will get targeted by Nijisisters..soon. Or Nijisanji might plan a stream to stream at the same time as Michi XD
@@NerissaRavencroftJailbird Nah, the crazies are still fixated on Dokibird for ruining the company despite her not mentioning Nijisanji in over two months.
Ima subscribe her.. but she don't have UA-cam ch wtf??
Go to her twitch and YT link should be in description
Finally you will have the button that many would like to have, one that you can fucking touch and see. What Dreams
It's consistent, every time one of them leaves and then pops back up you hear them go "oh Jesus Christ you actually get support and things are done for you and you aren't left to drown!?!!!"
It's just the way nijisanji is the most annoying thing about them is the fact that their supporters will never acknowledge the fact that even talents that left on good terms have said this.
Rosemi or Petra for Vshojo LOL or as a strong Indie like Doki. Obysiyeah forever!
It's good her managers are willing to accommodate her by giving her rules to follow to make her more comfortable.
Vshojo is so damn lax except for NDA and Copyright..Vshojo be like what are rules Lmao. Nijisanji just make the rules up LOL!!
Rules to break* lol
@@Purplepentapus_ rules that are selectively enforced*
@@Pulstar232 "YOU DID NOT ASK PERMISSION FROM US FOR THIS COFFEE!!!"
"Oh, hi Uki, back at it again with that white hatred? Oh you silly little boy. I bet you want pancakes for dinner tonight."
Emphasis that Michi says "Can I?" while under Ninji but under Vshojo, its "Do I?". Goes to show how much freedom there is in comparison.
You know its big when Matara and Michi were both surprised when they found out how helpful their managers were. Man, this Michi girl is already wonderful, I wonder if she likes to eat plastic.
In her previous life's graduation stream when asked about her manager it's always "my manager told me" And never "my manager helped me"
Vshojo keeps doing a good job at being a retirement center for previous vtubers
The rescue centre for Waifus. Yes Kuro is a Waifu. Also..I understand why a lot don't like Kuro and I don't blame them. But hey at least one less talent for Nijisanji. So there is that.
More like a rehab center
Remember a few years ago when shitting on Vshojo was cool? I'm so glad they won a redemption arc.
Just the way i want it
@@bashamd96both cover and vshojo learned from their mistakes, something niji are apparently unable/unwilling to do
It's good that even though she joined Vshojo Michi is still maintaining a presence on UA-cam (for now), just shows how flexible they are to streaming.
Or eat Mys- I mean Kuro's unwashed rice.
@@KoeskibibooSparklingGem That's better than Ky.... I mean Quinns soap washed rice.
Don't get why people think she sounds like Mika. There's no major depressive affect in her voice.
She's mika tho. I think she changed her mic.
@@habadini it's a joke about how she doesn't sound miserable.
right, I don't see any burn plastic near her
I wonder when V Shojo will send Niji a thank you letter for handing them all these Ws?
Probably when EN folds
If there's anyone who deserves a second chance, it's her. So happy to see her get a fair shot this time around. From feeling left out due to not having ANY physical merch, to being forced to graduate simply because of where she lives, I've been saying that she would benefit from proper management the most.
She's going to see numbers that make her head spin.
I like vshojo bringing in prior corpo vtubers because it lets us fans reconnect with our favorites while getting to see the talents enjoy experiencing a new healthy beginning for themselves in real time. It's healing and like a breath of fresh air for everyone.
Honestly, I don't watch a lot of vtubers, but MAN, everything's clicking with this Vtuber for me! The absolutely amazing design and the way she flows through conversations, she's definitely gonna be real popular! Glad to see she's got a place that will truly appreciate and help her out, can't wait to see what she has in store for us in the future!
Welcome to the Rabbit Hole.
Here we dig deeper rather than trying to escape.
@@mukti5896A more comfy and willing Stockholm Syndrome.
You gotta admit, the debut video was great. "Oh look, a giant nail. 😐"
the 4th wall break, with the dead stare into the viewer topped it off
Beautiful as the day we lost her
Khyo don't be silly it was just banter! What mocking? Ohhh okay! But either way I am Happy Mik- I mean Michi found new life! Her lore video was the middle finger to Nijisanji and I love it! Also here Khyo a big half aka super thanks. Keep up the news Khyo!
Totally not Mika giving the middle finger gives me life. Thank you! 💙
Im happy to have michi hyper pog stuff but like its just sad how conditioned all 3 of the reborn vtubers were to the limitations that were imposed on them
Same thing that happens to abused and then rescued animals.
I'm not kidding when i say that her debut stream put the biggest smile on my face
I secretly love this new move and generation of VSJ when it comes to debut new talents. That lore video sticks out a LOT and even the “Hi! I’m Gunrun!” Joke is just too charming!
She sound so much happier 😭😭😭😭😭
Once again, ex-Niji, either going to another corporation or going indie, are surprised at how much freedom they now have.
How many times must it be said? Niji is a terrible, TERRIBLE company to work for!
Ikr!! Its crazy
I think almost all Eastern VTuber agencies are horrible places. Hololive while strict seems to be about the only one that's bad. VOMs wasn't bad it was just small and poor. But all the other one's seem to be just bad in some way.
This is very much Japanese corporate ways of working. And idol industry culture.
But Niji is a black company so they are worse on the spectrum, but if you ever want to move to Japan and work there... you will quickly find out how bad it is, which is probably worse than you imagine.
Michi is my girl crush ever since I've seen clips in her PL. One thing I noticed is that she became crazier, more experimental and creative since she joined VShojo. I love that side of her and how she's with a great company and friends who can bring out the best out of her. I love her cheekiness and how she can radiate high energies, quite a fun thing to know especially that I remember Kuro have mentioned in his PL before that she may come of as someone shy and quiet.
Her lore video was definitely a chef's kiss with how she didn't even bother denying the fact who she was in the past. Definitely my giga chad! 💖
Gone are the days of people bashing on VShojo for being a bad company. I'm really glad they were able to turn things around and help out their talents. Congratulations for Michi on debuting! It's always great to have another purple member. 💜
While im aware that Vshojo had made genuienly bad mistakes and the scars would remain, thing is that even since Henya debuted i feel they are trying to be better and have a genuine effort in helping the talents
I still say they aren't within the good realm personally not until they actually hold true to the original idea behind their , now failed, audition that even if your small you can join the company. I've long since moved past that flaming dumpster but the idea behind it should still be kept as its getting harder and harder people with good talent to find any kind of success as an indie and its literally next to impossible to join most corpos nowadays unless you "big".
@@brandonhowell5096please point out an original mission statement in which they promised to meet the traditional model of a VTuber agency. They didn't, just people like yourself hold them accountable for a model they never promised and which simply didn't work for them (or did you forget about the exodus they had).
The current model works far better for them with the current members kind of vetting indies based on whether they actually get along with them or by hiring past Corpos who either get on well with existing members (Matara and Michi having a past relationship with Kuro) or just seem really nice (Henya); there are a couple of indies that maybe could sign with VShojo soon and one of those is obkatiekat, who has collaborated with a bunch of members and who has also contributed to VShojo member projects (she did the English voices bit Michi's lore video)
They could still do auditions but there are going to be those who audition who have collaborated with members in the past (Haruka) and that creates cronyism and you then have a bunch of whiners screaming it is unfair despite it being patently obvious that it makes more sense to hire someone who already gets on with multiple members.
Just the fact they are willing to help non-members so much, in of itself puts them in the good spot (they weren't looking for Male members when they helped Kuro sort his finances/tax issues out) and Mint has made it clear that she wasn't ever joining but they still lined up contacts for her including getting her Merch (singular and joint merch with Matara).
They learn from their mistakes and improved unlike certain black company.
>welcome back
It's like seeing a ghost...
My favorite girlfailure returns 🫂
Hearing Matara still in contact with a someone dyed in rose is a good thing, but damn I just hope (and I’m willing to let go) a certain Latina girlfailure will also jump ship. For now, she’s keeping mostly to herself, her community and chat included. Here’s to the two reuniting someday.
Who?
Niji have 2 latin american vtubers.
Now their content are Zzzz
@@darkgenius2002 there’s another one?
@@Aquas1998 Scarle and Remiu are both Latina
@@bluemoon004 I think he’s refering Reimu. Her streams are so boring. When se speaks spanish and english
Zzzz
But, I don’t know if he’s refering her at 100%
Scarle in my opinion is a failure I think. He is latina, but she never lived before in Mexico of Phillipines. I think She’s false Latina.
1:03 OnSHannon express her emotion as an ExNiji ID too.
congrates for both of them after debut at the close time.
Wait, she's a ex Niji ID livers?
@@alifdanial8007 siska leontyne, niji ID and close friend of mika
@@rocketman51 oh..... thanks for the info...
It's awesome hearing her voice, lots of people missed her, it's great she's back
“We could make up rules, if you’d like”
I think the Trio leaving last year shook them up in terms of what they put in contracts. I'm glad it's had good effects for everyone and how Vshojo is positioning themselves as a superior agency to Niji in terms of business.
Kurosanji really is great at scouting talent for Vshojo 😂😂😂.
Honestly I feel VShojo reaching out to ex corpo vtubers who've been through rough times is a good image to me. I'm glad to see these talents getting a second chance in such I a good environment (not being on a chain with a ridiculous number of landmines surrounding them)
It's a win-win. Gaining an experienced talent with an existing fan base. They make money off merch so having a fan base that will probably buy also makes good business sense. The good PR is just the cherry on top.
I don’t know who Michigan was in ninji, but I’m in love with her model on vshojo and glad she went from a terrible company to a pretty good one with vshojo
Vshojo model always amaze me for that dynamic movements, it's so beautiful
Pet the bunny
The bunny existing only because she was high on meds and thought it'd be funny to draw 3 balls with 2 phalluses will always be a funny part of her lore.
SHES BACKKKK
Who?
@@kclink1579pomu the GOATpuff
@@kclink1579 i could be wrong but i believe she was Mika
At this point I cannot bring myself to watch another Niji Vtuber (even the JP) without screaming in my head: "PLEASE! JUST GET OUTTA THERE! SAVE YOURSELF!"
I remember someone saying Niji VTA is just Vshojo training academy
Gunrun is amazing! He pretty much telling them have fun and you're representing vshojo.
Come on, Khyo!
How hard do you have to cope to be like:
"Michi...Mika...Michi...Mika....
Whelp, no connection there!"
Clark Kent:.... And people say my glasses don't work. :D
As a Vtuber company you don't even need to pay lots to your talents. All you need to do is to give basic respect and a respectable wage enough for living and expenses.
Nah, you need to go even beyond like giving deserved commission and support (protection and mental healthcare).
@@signumxmagnumI meant if the company don't wanna get backlash all you need to do is to show the management care enough to treat them as humans.
@@KoeskibibooSparklingGem Yes, that should be the bare minimum, but company shouldn't be hovering on the minimum only. Hololive is a good example for that, not only they give a lot of support, they gave the talents what they deserved of their hard work.
I love it how we are so back for everything. Michi 😭😭 miss her laugh and energy so much.
Really hoping she Collabs with Kuro
I don't know. They've clearly never met before. Perhaps take it slow. Who knows. Maybe they'll have an off collab if they get to know each other better. Perhaps cook something?
They will collab around Friday
@@herpderpinson2118 Smells like something gonna get burned XD
I think that will be interesting. She went to the Vshojo website talent page and read Kuro's Oh so edgy comment, and she damn near bust a gut. She emphatically said "He is not even edgy!" and had to mute herself again she was laughing so hard for like 5 minutes
@@herpderpinson2118 perhaps
Crying just as much as i did during the grad stream i cant take it bro
I can't imagine what it must be like to go directly from having to fight and wait to get something cause of bad management, to just;
Her: "Hey, I need--"
Them: *BAM* *Slaps it on the table*
It must be like a completely different world
I'm relatively new to the V-tubing community, but the first company I ever heard about was Nijisanji and their Graduations. I looked up what it ment for a V-tuber because I was confused as to why so many kids were graduating at different times and not in spring. I learned its not a bad thing but... when your company's name is associated with so many people leaving, there might be a problem. IDK who Mochi was in her past life but so far I'm enjoying her in this life. :3
Ironmouse is my Oshi and VShojo has my support for what they are doing.
"We don't really have any rules, but if you would like us to make you some we can"
Lol
You always say good things about your current job...until you left. Of course she say nice things, is the Vtuber narrative, "I was alone, and now Im in a better place" . Good for her.
Even if VShojo not a good place, it still a lot better than in Kurosanji.
@@signumxmagnum I suppose. That's the only thing we can do, assume things.
@@r.d.baezukalangley7029 No, you can also analyze things from turn over rate and how the ex-employee said things about the company. A bad company would have high turn over ( people going and leaving the company in short amount of time ) and how the employee would speak ill about their company upon leaving.
I don't see VShojo have high turn over and most of their ex just complain about the lack of interaction between talents (VShojo have a really clique custom, but that's because VShojo is not really a proper talent agency, but more like a community).
She still have same job. Just different Place.
Same case with Chinami and Nemu they didn't have good impression of their Past Place.
Imagine entering a company where people really do their work 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
The "friend" finally debuted!!!
LETS GIVE HER SILVER PLAY BUTTON!!!!
The best revenge on Niji is becoming more successful without them. Seems to work out very well so far.
I‘m so happy that she‘s back, she truly was missed
The more Vshojo picks up ex njisanji talents. The more it becomes a literal retirement home. But hey still better than Nijisanji.
Why do people post this like they are original? You’re not the first to post this and you won’t be the last, but honestly asking, why repeat the same thing over and over?
@@Jmt1000XD Because great minds think alike
Seems like they have more freedom tbh
I like it very much when vshoujo said they could make up some rules to ease michi.... Imagining their conversation must be awkwardly funny lmao, I'd like to see a fanart or animation of them and in the end they both say "what?"
This would be known as a "Pro-Vtuber move" if it keeps happening.
Did Siska Leontyne ever collab with Mika Melatika? If so/not I wonder if theres a chanse for ON Shannon to collab with Michi Mochievee?
They have several times, so let's hope they will do more collabs later
Yeah...I had no clue about her past. Honestly she's with a WAY better company right now.
doing a job professionally and being a professional are two separate things. she is now working with professionals.
dong a job professionally just means your getting paid to do that job. being a professional means being able to do the job efficiently.
I love how expressive michi new vshoujo model and her gothic outfit compare with her model in niji.
It's really sad because of how badly neglected she was with Niji. Now she likely feels like she's being spoiled when this is the treatment her and the others should have gotten from the very start.
With how VShojo also surprised Kuro and Matara, it was expected
If only the things vshoujo offer were given to smaller talents who need it rather than people who are already millionaires but compliments where they're due I've heard vshoujos management is excellent, I'd imagine going from niji to vshoujo would be like going from a highly abusive relationship to a kind caring one where talents finally realise just how bad things were.
Business wise, picking up a talent who you know is going to be successful right off the bat is a better investment then picking up someone with little to no success so far. But yeah, hopefully this will pave the road for more indy/unknowns in the future.
the thing is, Vshojo has already talents within their company that can vouch for the new hires. and with a good background to back it up, why wouldnt they pick them over a nobody.
no offense to indies but there are good ones and a ton of bad ones. and having a chance to pick up a proven and tested one is better than someone who doesnt know anything.
not to mention, Vshojo is very much, the friend of a friend is also my friend.
Very few, if any of them, are millionaires. But to your greater point. It's not their job to hire small timers. It's their group and can run how they want, and what they want is the cohesiveness that comes from being an invitation only friend group, and dealing with known vets who proved they can hack it on the big stage
Vshojo's business model makes it hard for me to imagine they'll ever be starting from scratch tho, because from the get go, they go by connections instead of the traditional auditions business model most vtuber agency adopts, and to make connections, you kinda need to have your name out there in the first place
Business wise, it's actually safer to go this route albeit having a smaller talent pond compared to the traditional auditions. Auditions is good for the talents outside of the company, but connection is good for the talents already inside the company, because if all the co-workers you have is your friend, ofc it'll make a pleasant working experience
Just look at Niji if you wanna see an example of what bringing in a bunch of strangers together via auditions in an agency would do to the agency eventually, clique culture
The V in Vshoujo stands for Valhalla, where the vtubers can accend even more 😂
Another good informative vid! Thanks khyo for these updates. (I dont have twitch so cant see these things)
Literally "That time I got reincarnated as-" since she was a ghost...
Her shock is both wholesome and sad if you think about how terrible the black rainbow was as a place...
Also her reincarnation will give possibility to collab with that squirrel.
In before NBinted starts pulling apart this video for content to spread their anti-hate of anyone that talks against Nijisanji.
That being said, good to catch up on the vtuber news!
Honestly, it’s super great to see her more animated lol
Could you speak on the kenji doxxing situation to help spread awarness and give him the support he needs
every time she said "tomorrow?" ina was playing in my head
Kinda crazy how people in niji say that you can get a play button if you just ask management, but every graduated member who returned are excited that they can have one now and say that they always wanted one. It doesn't add up.
The only win for niji livers
Is when they become *Ex* Niji livers 💀
FINALLY
Nobody: "You could always ask for the play button"
Everybody (after leaving kurosanji): "OMG PLAY BUTTON"
So vshojo kinda has a "undead couple/duo" now?
Rather then Vshojo being the Nijisanji graduation centre I think its more Niji being the Vshojo recruitment centre, with how much Niji has been mismanaging their livers I'm sure they will be doing better then ever in Vshojo with time.
0:44 you can hear the vine boom if you listen close enough lol
Man, that pupil animation is kinda hypnotizing
A Big Nail!!
If they actually make up rule just for her is probably gonna be like
1. Dont break Twitch TOS (Optional)
2. Dont break the Geneva Convention ( Unless it's funny)
Oh crazy why didnt she just ask for the play button claudie?
I love how much of a middle finger is her debut to Nijisanji
Her name still have the MM initial. (It might be a reach because double letter initial isn't rare). And also the nail thing.
Glad for her now that she would get her play button
I wish michi all the best and love because she deserves it. I can’t wait for her and kuro to Collab one day.
WHAT? A Nijisanji member that joined V-Shojo after graduation?
unfathomable... Wait, I forgot something.
/sarcasm
There we go!^^
how did i only just realise that her current name has the same first letters of her old name and it also rhymes just like her old name
Her new model seems to be inspired by her old one to. Which is a nice subtle middle finger lol
@@Tyyin. this is why i LOVE HER so MUCH shes so fcking REAL
yay 1st ID vshoujo
khyo, you might not know it but the first "quote" retweet you put in the video (onShanon) is another Ex Kurosanji Night Guard
When I saw that opening, as a LN I had the same reaction. IF you know you know
I cannot tell you why but because we're seeing so many ex-Niji Livers (I cringe using that word) signing on with V-Shojo but Mint hadn't officially, I have this feeling that there is a greater chance that she is joining Hololive. She adores idol culture and would be a perfect fit. Let me have my hopium.
Waiting for Parrot4chan to make a vid about this, I miss his screams.
I was going to say that VShojo is less of a retirement home and more of a refugee shelter. After all, graduated and terminated talents who switch agencies are basically refugees. RefuVTubers as I'd put it.
Take care of your employees and they will take care of you and your company.
I was hoping she would join Idol as Idol is (probably) the single best agency to exist for Vtubers.
Michi is💜🤍