Nijisanji is insulting Their Fans… | Nijisanji English and Hololive Events Compared
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The price they're charging at niji for a glorified karaoke is genuinely an insult to the fans.
Millie's model needed to turn on vsync because that thing was screen tearing like mad. She's not going anywhere. She's moving side to side.
They handed Millie's name those L's on purpose 💀
lmao this is killing me
Meanwhile Hololive charge 60 dollars on actual good concert events. Heck sometimes slash the price in half if they feel generous they do that for some concerts.
Karma for what she has done.
Not enough L's 😂
Damn, went for the jugular, I like that
The fact it was all empty for Niji is crazy, then we have a room full of people with hololive.
It wasn’t even a normal room bro, they had a whole stadium 🙂
@@marshall7002 Thats even crazier
@@marshall7002Remember they can fill a entire Arena/Dome that is how good they are.
Not just a room, it's the Rod Laver Arena. One of the stadiums where the Australian Open are held every year. They didn't use the entire stadium but still a pretty good turnout considering the concert itslef is tucked inside an e-sports/game convention.
@@rafiboy05And the livers actually interacting with the audience the ones who made them rich and happy in the first place.
The Niji event looked like it was just a stream projected onto a screen. Like you were going to the cinemas to watch a live stream. Whereas Hololive's concert is an actual concert.
Yep and not only that the livers have more personality to. Being there interacting with the audience. Calli was the big example.
well, at least the niji one was only like 10-20 bucks right?... right?
I think that would bother me more. Sold as a concert, and you get a karaoke stream.
@@NearN8Niji 2D concerts are much more expensive than hololive 3D concerts
@@NearN8Niji con was 100$ normal seat, $150 premium seat.
Hat are you smoking?
10-20 lol
As a Singaporean I didn’t even know the event existed there was no ads for it here whatsoever LOL
You think anycolor would spend money on advertising??😂😂😂😂
Seriously no ads for that event????
Buy an ad 😂😂😂
Riku Tazumi’s stingyness strikes again! Billion dollar worth company, everyone! 😂🎉
Riku would neuter someone if they suggested spending money to promote their company
Nijisanji: Pay 4+ Star prices for at best a 2 Star experience.
Hololive: Pay only 2 Star prices for a 4+ Star experience.
Based
Yeah, that about sums it up.
Différence between a company that's actually wanna thrive for years and company who just wanted the money
it's just the en branch actually. the jp branch always goes over and beyond, all with their 3d models, sometimes even changing outfits, interacting with the crowd, fan service, etc etc. in fact, kuzuha had a sold out solo concert. en branch (and enikara's greed) is truly the downfall of nijisanji.
This is to show the great difference between professional dedicated staff and two months contract high school part timers.
Also livers who really love their job Vs those just in for the Moola. The difference is so clear many know right away.
I seen some presentations from high schoolers look much better and professional than the bs that Nijisanji has been spitting out tbh.
Even Idol ES trailer has even more work than this or even any Nijisanji announcement.
Bro has million dollar at disposal from selling stock and none of that goes to hiring good staff instead they hire student + Elira to manage everyone 💀 Elira low key also victim of the system
There are high school students who are there in line with quality, and nijisanji hired below average high school students to be their staff with below avergae minimum wage truly a sinking yacht
Millie having 3 Ls isn't a spelling mistake, it's Accurate
She keeps taking Ls just like Niji
Good One😂
Niji love their L a little too much
LMAO GOOD ONEE
You got the point, very accurate 😅
Bruhh good one LMAOOO
I like how both Rhapsody and DreamHack occurred at the same time. It’s the IRL version of Jack’s backstory where Pinocchio gets all the attention.
I bet this is how sisters is gonna spin this, Rhapsody's failure was due to Dreamhack taking all the fans... Honestly if they did spin it like that, it'll gonna be so funny.
@@ArseneaLupinEspecially this event is using my country Singapore to represent them. Insulting to be honest. I rather have Holo come here.
@@ShioriNovelite1 Oof. My sympathies, Comrade.
@@ShioriNovelite1haiya... those niji folks are stoopid lah!
Truly a buncha failures leh!
@@ArseneaLupinadmitting that will cement their position as the inferior of the two. But who knows what kind of Clownery they're gonna pull. 😅
Performing for an empty audience must be one of the worst feelings. Many years ago I organized a fundraiser concert with just me and a few friends performing and I'm pretty sure I had more people in the audience than this. I hope for the perfomers' sake they weren't told/didn't know the venue was empty until after the performance was over.
They didn't even "perform" it was a prerecorded karoke collab. Like imagine being charged $110 to go to the movies that's basically what it was lmao
@@Eiji475 very ironic, isn't it 😏
@@Eiji475 I'm not laying 100 dollars for a movie ticket lmao
@@Eiji475 Not even the movies; movies have actual production value and usually years of work. Niji 'concerts' seem like 30 minutes of editing by an under-grad and a couple hours recording karaoke at home.
@@Eiji475 I feel like it is paying that money in order to watch VOD!
best part of the hololive event was when the crowd shouted JDON MY SOUL at bae LOLOLOL
I saw the sign that one guy made. Hilarious. Love seeing support for the rat
For me, who only watched the free version, it was when the crowd began shouting "SANA" over and over again.
Call me emotional, but dayum, she really left an imprint on everyone.
@@lyravain6304Of course she left a mark on everyone, Sana was BEEEEEEG after all.
The hall was filled, the crowd was all HoloFans, the energy was off the charts, people were saying it was basically like another Fes concert, and of course, all the HoloMerch being shown by the fans, who are clearly stoked to be there.
DreamHack even questioned if this should be an ongoing tradition for them, simply due to how big of a splash Hololive made. I can foresee another concert at another DreamHack soon.
@@kylewoodowens4488 the only confusing thing was why did the intro screen spell haros baelz wrong? everybody knows that k is an R. lol.
Jeez, Niji really is trying to squeeze every yen it can out of EN before they nuke it.
Fr Fr Fr
4th quarter ends at the end of April. It covers all the controversies that have happened and the report comes out in June and the shareholders have a meeting in July. It’s extremely likely that after that there won’t be a NijiEn branch anymore.
@@SithLadyLumiyabro, the problem is that last quarter already so f*ed up. I mean 40% revenue drop compared to same quarter last year!!!?? that's a disgrace
@@johnlau6749 John Bungie would be proud of a revenue drop like that
To be fair Niji has been that way all along. They even cozy up to the Chinese Communist Party for a few bucks.
Niji EN still hasn't addressed their controversies. People assume all the rumors are true, and no one has defended themselves or clarified anything. How could anyone care at this point.
Yeah, I already witness some vtuber agencies that's worse than Niji (e.g. WACTOR, Akio Air, OWOZU), yet no one besides LATAM folks are giving s***.
Enna and Millie are 2 members who did saying Niji is not black company and say to her own fans they are mentally ill for critical of Niji.
normally, the best thing for a company to do IS to ignore controversies. You ride out the wave of outrage until it dies down and people move on to a new outrage. Niji's problem, though, is they keep getting more and more controversies and so none of them have a chance to die down.
@@dilithiumgunner8095 Nah. There are 2 types of controversies. Usually yes you just ignore and move on. But this one is very... Smearing? I don't think i would be able to enjoy their content again with this second thought on the back of my mind. Like... This one put a LIFE at risk. Life threatening ones should and MUST be adressed. Its like construction worker got permanent brain injury from falling screwdriver and construction company STILL didn't give anyone helmets. Not only that but every other company flexes their protecive gear, reminding everyone of this situation.
Nah its not that no one defended them but their self-defense efforts are sucks or rather self-destruct themselves
Damn this is just Sad now. Their CEO attended Someone else's Concert but not theirs.
I watched the Free Preview of DreamHack and the Fans Were so Hyped up it became Annoyingly amusing. The difference is just Great now.
If Yagoo can find time to attend the concerts in Person that shows how much he loves his company & fans. We as his fans love him back. 🫶
Fan hype also maybe Sana (australian) could have appeared
How is fans being hyped annoying in any way? It's infectious.
@@ShioriNovelite1yahoo attends a concert as an impromptu kinda thing->fan gave takodachi figures->months later botan bday(or smtg like that) had yagoo cameo with his office included->the two takodachi figures were on it
That was literally my favorite turn of events ever lmao
@@0cluealleyYagoo could have gotten a love letter at high school and that would be his family heirloom. Thats why people loves the man, the king, the legend, the best girl.
We are beginning to see the difference in investing in your paycheck vs investing in your talents. The way Yagoo seems to truly care about his employees (not just the talents but everyone in their company) is truly something special. He’s got a skill and a passion that some other ceo seems to be lacking.
you could easily see that when Nijisanji's president did that apology video, he could not have looked less sympathetic or concerned, and just looked moody/annoyed that he had to do it to save some part of the company's reputation
Exactly, Yagoo is a smart man. He probably wants to only work with people who he genuinely likes and is good for his company then does his job like a normal boss behind the scenes
I really don’t understand why Riku is this dense and greedy man
The story of Miko says all, Yagoo believe and support her when things were Bad at the Star of her career and now she is a big star, in niji all the stories always star with the talent talking about how the company basically sabotaged them
@@connorradcliffe1769 Their CEO looked like a spoiled kid who was given a company by his dad. He doesn't know how to handle what happened and him being introvert showed on that video.
I don't think/feel that he was not sympathetic. He just don't know how to handle being on screen. He's like Yagoo during the concert visits but make it 10x more introvert.
@@EdDiaz-fz4kj I don’t think my dear Haachama would still be employed at Kurosanji. And his support for Holostars when they had a rough time. That clip where Suisei talks about crying with him. He’s on another level
I would really like to know where Nijisanji puts their money because they clearly dont invest it back into the business which as a business owner myself boggles the f**king mind because its a horrible choice you can make and almost ensures your failure.
How does niji talent not have a 3D model? completely unreal to me.
They have invested their money in luxury yachts
Allegedly? Something called stock buybacks.
Some higher ups are pocketing the money~~~, that's the only real explanation lol.
Or they focused too much on JP branch for advertisement,goods etc that they couldn't care about EN or any other branch.
Because it Niji. Niji vtuber are 2D on purpose since that 2D is what make them back then different from Kizuna AI 3D. They promoting that vtuber can success with only a 2D. But it was back then when they are started as an agency, then vtuber scene change and they are failed to adapt then now not having 3D is really limited their grown and opportunity.
@@senoalamsyah7481 Looks at other Agency especially hololive, nah its just mismanagement, not investing much on their talents and not trying to improve their business.
if they really wanted to make concert etc they should have invested heavily in 3D, but they didn't, if 2D is all they wanted they should have just stick to 2D invest on talents that are good at singing and make original songs they don't need to dance.
In short anycolor invested so little to improve their business while maximing profit that's their motto hence why so many talents.
The event looks like a glorified powerpoint lecture with darker lights
Meanwhile with Holo a big giant party for about half the price!
@@ShioriNovelite1 More like quarter of the price, if you consider that they charge twice one for 1st half and again for 2nd half lol
Hololive ran a mini concert and AniRevo in Vancouver, and they featured Moona and Risu basically doing a Karaoke like they were in an off collab, and the room was fucking filled to the brim! I had to sit all the way to the side, but god damn the energy in the room was insane. It was such a great concert, way better than what Niji had, even though the production value was way lower. Also, the stuff they put together for the concert wasn't actually half bad. Hell, they had cameras up for Moona and Risu, and they were doing attendee highlight cams, and people started doing Honkai Star Rail pulls lol. Moona and Risu were laughing about it when they came on.
The Q&A session with Ina and Fauna was also jam packed and really fun. Lots of fans showed up in costumes (one guy was a full bodysuit Takodachi) and everyone had a blast chatting with Fauna and Ina.
I only feel bad for the talent, imagin walking into a stage thinking your fans are there but they're not, that wouldve crush my self-esteem if that were me.
Karma, that's what they get.
@@cleeiii357 karma for what? Cause there are talent that are genuinely unproblematic, I just feel bad for them.
@@cleeiii357 There were some talents who did cause problems, but there were others who did not deserve to carry the burdens caused by the company
@@cleeiii357Even when I said karma it is for those who deserve it. There are some livers who I feel actually sad but I I hope they can find success outside of Nijisanji.
@cleeiii357 Look, there might be some bad apples in the talent, but most of them are genuinely nice people who don't really deserve what's happening to them because of the company.
I expected low quality trash. But I didn't expected what I saw lol.
And the fact that like 25-30 people attended makes it more sad.
Meanwhile Hololive in Melbourne is a big success!
Even they are surprised because according to them it should've been less than half of what they got.
The funny thing also I think Hololive expected a lot of normies in their crowd for them to explain what are vtubers at the start of the concert..
@@PotatoSalad23 when I saw that I was like "are they giving a crash course about Vtubers right now?"
Then I saw some twitter reactions that said it's their first time attending a Vtuber concert and they had a good time. They have no idea they experienced the ONLY good concert lol
Another thing to note is the official merch for the Dreamhack concert, the penlight sold out and each of those lights cost 50$ in Autralian currency
The setup for the holoconcert was 3 times better than mikuexpo2024 😂
@@dorogundamI blame Crunchyroll, stingy when it comes to spending money on the expo
Remember, everyone: "Negligible"
Not if it's wactor (iykyk)
Every time I see any of the latest Niji "concerts" it reminded me of that one story of the indie vtuber who held a FREE concert and people give him all the bad reviews.
At least he is an indie, not a multi millionaire company
The one who went viral because audience went wild when he showed his eyes? I think his case is just reaching the wrong audience with that virality lol
@@foursoup7922 I don't remember that part, but IIRC people were complaining cause the "concert" looks just like niji is doing (a 2d karaoke) but the were mistaking the entrance to the whole event payment as the concert's viewing payment and they were complaining something like "you need to pay $10 (I don't remember the exact amount) for a 2D karaoke session"
Yes its the same guy, Da Capo? I think? And IIRC he's not really an Indie
@@FuMiO02110 He's actually in a company called Algorhythm Project or ARP for short I believe they are from Taiwan. I only know this because one of the members from ARP Evalia collabed with Axel from Holostars was looking around through her colleagues and recognized a familiar face or should I say his eyes.
@@akitohimenokoji Thank you for more info
The concert colors seem off, kinda like my old gpu before it died, where it would have pink, purple or yellow saturation, causing the colors to appear too bright or have an off color look to them. Someone should have looked over on how it looked, like a technician and see if they couldnt fix it.
It's crazy because the AR Live's colors were also kinda off - at least considering the images I saw.
It's probably because we're seeing it from a recording of the screen. That'll always skew things a bit.
"nijien is kinda like my old gpu before it died"
Sounds about right
"Someone should have looked over on how it looked, like a technician and see if they couldnt fix it."
Implying that Nijisanji cared enough to pay a technician to be on-site to handle technical issues... that's a pretty bold claim.
I wonder how the livers feel. Confused at why so many people not attending haha that is actual karma right there.
How about JP livers, though? Wonder if they're aware with the whole "Kurosanji", "black company", and "evil company" thing.
Karma why? Why are you so sure that everyone deserves that? I understand that you don't support nijisanji (I wouldn't either) but the talents are just working to survive.
@@rubiobipolar7332survive and most of them protecting there evil boss yeah sounds about right
@@rubiobipolar7332Some livers doesn't deserve it yeah but unless we Boycott to the point they wake up I have no remorse boycotting then.
@@rubiobipolar7332naaah. It IS Karma. Atleast to most of their top talents. Don't forget how the talents themselves threw their ex-talents under the bus and downplay the situation especially where someone LITERALLY tried to kill herself twice just to protect and lick the soles of the feet of their NijiMasters. And i say all of them deserve this even those who did not speak up since they still chose to ride this sinking yacht. Watching this downfall might be really sad but itnis well deserved.
2:51 damn, Luca and Uki sit next to each other?!?!?! That's crazy... 😅
Terrible people tend to attract other terrible people, what can I say, LMAO.
Really hilarious to see then next to each other when they should hate each other with their biases.
can i know the context behind this comment?? did something new about these two come out or something?
@@doodoowater7863 Uki hates white people, and Luca's ex leaked some of his private chats which included him making homophobic and transphobic comments. Uki is gay, and Luca is part Filipino, part white. So by their logic, they would hate each other.
I uncomfortable with Chinese people, I still watch Enna clip sometimes in the past, and I didn't feel bad knowing she's Chinese. Because she's not the one yelling and speaking their language carelessly at my country
Human is not that simple mind you guys
Dude last year, HoloID held SEA concert with 4 member (Moona,Risu,Reine,Kobo) and its all 3D on professional stage, New song made by famous indonesian song writer also cheaper ticket too.
Compare to NijiEN Rhapsody its like day and night.
I honestly feel awful about this. Some of those talents definitely deserve the reality check but some of them are just casualties and it makes me sad that they have to go through this
You don't have to, some of the genuinely wanted to still be in there.
Leaving Nijisanji is always an option.
leaving nijisanji is always an option
"You could you know, just ask to leave Nijisanji!"
You don't know the talents situations and what could possibly the cause for not leaving, don't asume things about the inocent ones.
Slight correction. Niji is not a multi-billion dollar company anymore. It is currently just shy of being a one-billion dollar company.
(Their actual value is much lower, but apples to apples on market cap they've dropped 65% from 2022 peak, and about 40% from the 2024 high in February)
Negligible.
Yeah, just give it a month and people will call them 1 billion company while the company is way under at that time😂
$110 concert, $7/hour employees tells you everything you need to know.
Ah, I remember times when fans comparing Niji and Holo concert like Holo more Idolish and Niji more Chaotic/Free, how time has change..
Now, Holo is a legit entertainment company with both Idols and comedians and Niji is just a black underground Idol company
Yup, even I was guilty of doing that. Even after Sayu's whistle blowing and knowing what went on behind the scenes, I kept on watching their talents. Selen's termination changed all that and exposed just how corrupt and greedy this company really is, and how much better Hololive is by comparison.
Here's the thing. I dislike Holo's focus on idol stuff and singing. I am initially attracted to Niji's approach of "normal people streaming as friends" concept. Then these happen.
I want legit competition. I want Hololive to feel threatened. But NijiEN fails as the alternative. The alternative needs to combine the virality and cult sensation of Holo with the original vision of NijiEN.
Sometimes I’m still surprised they are still able to keep going without thinking back
very true
Like the Niji ID was removed without any sign. Just day one, the management in ID leaves, then the merger, then the removal. Maybe the EN would have the same destiny.
well looking at the quality of their products and what they pay there talents, they dont have a lot of spending, so yeah^^
@@0oAnripuppywatchingHad they tried to invest in those talents the concerts like this rn would have been better. They decided to be cheap so this is their consequence.
Oh Riku terminated those intern "Lawyers" after that piss faced video which is why there was quite a few job openings shortly after ☕😹👍
I guess they can find event planners on Fiver now without Selen's money and it shows 😹
It should be noted: It's almost guaranteed that Niji-staff is blaming the talents for the low turn-out. The talents are probably getting verbally abused and punished by staff and being made to feel like it was all their fault. If you want to mock Nijisanji over this (which they absolutely deserve) remember to do it from a perspective that the talents are victims in this and deserve better (better than Niji).
You mean the management and managers.
I'm really glad for whoever that already graduated.
"Leaving Nijisanji is always an option."
@@cleeiii357 that's a massive red herring, it implies that they can just up and leave at any time, but to leave an agency, you have to either get terminated or graduate, the latter of which is dependent on when Niji sets it and being announced to the public a month in advance.
@@cubix_walrus7560They put quotations because that’s what Vox said.
“If Selen hated it here so much, she could have just graduated anytime she wanted and even said she would many times. Yet for some reason she never did.”
When I saw that price comparison, my jaw dropped. That, with the spelling issue shit, and then, the quality of the shows, Jesus Christ Niji, you greedy pricks, GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!
Dont forget that Niji not even put local ads so many singaporean missed the concert😂
@@ainzer2903 missed the concert? brotha they missed absolutly nothing.
Oof, not even local advertising and charging way over?
They could have gone the complete other way, charge low and bring in people who have no idea what vtubers are (or what Niji has done).
That Holo's DreamHack had so many first timers that they felt the need to explain they weren't AI and could actually see the audience. That's base proof it could have worked.
@@theghostoftom Well, Dreamhack was planned that they needed to explain, but with the extra paid ticket and the sheer amount of penlights, it felt very unnecessary. It was hard for me to believe that anyone would pay to get in just because they were curious. Not impossible, but that wasn't my impression.
You actually had to pay to get into the Dreamhack Expo as well, so it was an extra ~$30 USD on top of the Hololive ticket price.
*Conglatulation* to *Millle* for her performance
Love how Millie is blackened
As a singaporean, I didn’t know this happened
They probably didn't pay for advertisements in your country! xD
remember that time those ninji talents got caught trash talking hololive as inferior.
Negligible
Fun times, now look at them especially the fact Fulgur cannot travel to Japan 🤣👏👏👏
As much as I hate nijisanji, I don't think I've heard them saying specifically that Hololive is inferior? Unless you were talking about the leaked discord chat, which is just them discussing how bad Holo(I forgot the name but its mostly mens group) was performing at that time.
Anyway, sucks that the vtuber community is getting hella toxic. I doubt I'll return to watching vtubers anytime soon.
@@smod15it's just Nijisanji that is the black sheep of the industry, look at the holofest for example
This is a perfect example of 'you reap what you sow'
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Good heavens, the fact that there are so many empty chairs speaks volumes. Nijisanjis yacht keeps on sinking deeper and deeper. But remember, this is the result of their poor decisions for months now.
Yeah but that only applies to Nijisanji EN, JP still making bank. That's the spin these nijisisters will continue to give
The yacht is basically on the ocean floor now😂
Months? Years!
@@zen8809Meanwhile the Hololive girls are laughing at them from the Cruise Ship surrounded by family and audience even best girl Yagoo.
@@ShioriNovelite1 best gril aura is warm and shine his aura will protect every family he have and every partner he have.. that is best gril aura passive skill..
unlike other side "god?!!?!?!?!? (self proclaimed)" that suck all life energy from his area with him as the center. (aoe effect aura)
Damn, Khyo is almost at 100k. He's gonna get his own play button!
And he gonna sing Gyatt for Nerizzler! 😂
And he doesnt have to ask for it.
Don't let Niji take the play button💀🤣
why he not ask ??
@@cheemslord9917right, he can just ask
Singaporean here, not surprised , there were no ads whatsoever, no one was talking about it, only time i heard about this event was when i watched Khyo. Plus, i dont think Singaporeans would take one 1-day leave for this event.
And the prices is too high for college students
$110 Karaoke stream Vs $32 Live 3D Concert
@ainzer2903 Yeah, plus living here is expensive enough. Who's got the money and leave to spend on watching a big projected screen.
This took place on Saturday, so no need to take leave unless you work shifts. But yeah there was no advertising at all, and the tickets were rather expensive.
😢I remember reading a comment that said, "if they make selen graduate it will be a big L for nijiEN"
and sure enough, the fact that Selen was terminated made things even worse
I'm starting to feel sorry for the livers that aren't involved in the drama,
if they just let her graduate, things would have ended peacefully. Even if they terminate the contract, things still could have ended pretty well for them with minimal backlash (I want to say negligible but I'm not memeing so I'll use different word) if they had gone about it in more neutral way. Just the standard termination notice "We choose to end contract due to disagreement from both side etc.." without saying bad things about her.
It's almost like they don't want to admit overwhelming defeat. They might have been able to damage control if they took iniative very early. But they didn't cut their losses, they take this opportunity to double down as they have nothing to lose. Pathetic.
Alright I'll be the one to say it, Nijisanji is a SCAM COMPANY. I don't know what more proof do you need; Livers barley earn any money and can go into debt, workplace conditions are a free for all basically, and the fans get fed low quality products. Like where is Niji's money even going at this point?! Riku needs to be investigated cause something is not adding up here.
It looks like a scam company but it's your typical JP Short term profit company. Riku is just greedy much like how the CEO of Nexas is gonna be that greedy
I'm pretty sure Riku Tazumi is trying to get as much money out of this as possible and actively lets the whole company run on life support.
I mean, if you look at their public financial records, that is literally what is happening. Nothing gets reinvested, tens of millions of dollars just reamain unused. I think he genuinely exclusively cares about money and has zero passion for Vtubing or even just beeing good at what he does. It is pure, raw greed.
And it will get him burned as the fires of greed are like the sun that brined icarus's wings.@@groerhahn225
And now we have Nexus which looks to be Nijisanji x 100000. Battle royales for your talent? Debuting 100 talents all at once with performance-based pay on a platform that no one has heard of and is in alpha? Someone took a look at Nijisanji and said SIGN ME UP FOR CRAZY! lol.
@@BeyondDaX- Dude stop the copium. Japan has way more companies that aren’t like Nijisanji than ones that are. America has more and even then it’s not this bad. Nijisanji makes Amazon look good. I repeat Nijisanji is so bad that Amazon is basically better in comparison.
The fact that you can see the mouse cursor.
OH NO!
This is not good.
As a Singaporean and an avid niji fan, I’d like to say: yes I knew about this performance but I didn’t go. There’s quite a few factors actually:
1. They started marketing this event on social media not long after the whole selen/doki controversy so obviously it was when a lot of people decided to take a break from nijisanji (including myself)
2. I don’t think it was marketed outside of social media (other than 1 Instagram page I didn’t see any other info about it)
3. The tickets are expensive. (Do keep in mind that Singapore had just went through like 3 concert fevers from Taylor Swift, Cold Play and Bruno Mars so a lot of people are broke + I’m just a zero income student so I can’t afford)
4. All the other avid cosplayers and otakus were at another anime convention (Doujima and AFAID) during the same weekend.
5. While a large portion of otakus are adults with disposable income, another large portion of otakus are also students who are busy studying (most students have tuition etc. on the weekends so the event being held on a random Saturday and not during the holidays does not help)
* otakus in this sense would be niji’s target audience
the niji concert was just a glorified collab stream. no effort whatsoever but the nijishitters ate that up
it's just a matter of time before Riku cost cuts and relegate nijiEN to the same status as KR,ID,IN hahahaha it's going to be really funny when that happens
Yeah and Riku will still be making money so long he has people like Kuzuha around
@@BeyondDaX I'm just satisfied watching nijiEN fall off since it's pretty unrealistic to think that Riku will go bankrupt anytime soon unless he commits an actual crime like tax evasion, securities fraud or insider trading
@@BeyondDaXDoesn’t Kuzu mean trash? Weird name.
@@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726 Maybe so but he has a legion of female fans that worship the very air he breathes and puts money into Riku's undeserving pockets
It is sad for me. But I believe it can happen anytime.
they most likely invited what small crowd was there to move up closer to the screen to make the optics look better 😂
It's like membership only pre recorded karaoke
i still remember when Niji EN mocking or laughing Hololive EN on Discord, and look at them now XD
What's that again, "Council is not as successful as Myth"?
And the one who said it is from Noctyx, a sorry duplicate of Luxiem (which now crumbles too anyway) 😂
"nijisanji thriving, hololive is in shambles lmao"
bet the guy who said that feel stupid right now 🤣
Obviously the Nijisisters will only flock towards the male livers but still with that price for a 2D karaoke is just mind blowing.
I’d rather pay $140 to watch the Fishman’s girls create chaos
Our expectations for VR was low, but HOLY FUCK!
This makes me sad. Coming to an event as a performer, expecting a warm reception just to see that only a hand full of people care would absolutely destroy me. I didn't watch the event, even digitally, but I do respect the talents if they managed to hold themselves together during their performance.
But I also feel bad for the fans that were looking forward to the event. Showing up in person, looking forward to feeling some comradery and sense of community and not only being one of the only people in an empty room, but also paying for the privilege to see a very low quality production must make you feel pretty dumb.
I really hope the appropriate lessons are being learned, because at this point the only people happy are probably the ones looking for a trashfire.
I just noticed while watching this video, something that makes the millie misspelling even more embarrassing is they spell it right on the very same slide. The part in big yellow letters has 3 L's but the lower right has her name spelled correctly. Wth
that was straight up embarrassing. and the ticket price comparison it almost looked like it got swapped or something golly.
Lmao that "cursor dance" got me😂
Putting aside everything that happened so far, all the dramas etc., at this point I just feel bad for livers in Niji
while there might be some members that are innocent and just feel stuck with nijisanji, there are others that are probably happy to go along with nijisanji, time will tell if they will change after graduation and have a similar story to kyo, mysta and co
Dreamhack concert was so good! The most hype song was ollie, reine, and marine doing blue clapper!!!!!
i thought ollie and bae doing Q was absolute fire.
@@arizona_anime_fan NAH OLLIE AND BAE BUSTIN OUT Q WAS INSAAAAAAAANE!!!! AND SENCHOU BACKING CALLI ON FUTURE ISLAND GADDDAAAMMMMMMM
High tide also came out of nowhere
@@thefakecoconut REINE HIGH TIDE WITH TOWA ENGLISH BACKING?!?!?! AINT NO WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY
@@arizona_anime_fan I was praying Q would be performed but I didn't expect bae and ollie to jump in and do it!
The fact that Shu is the only one in this concert that isn't problematic is insane.
Alban???
@@mushroomexpress3049 Holostars seem to like him, so unless he did some really bad stuff he is cool as well.
@@mushroomexpress3049 Apologizes! I just woke up from a nap lol.
I would say Alban is in the good for now, along with Sonny too! But that's just my opinion.
@@ana_why12not sure about Sonny btw. Maybe right now he's ok, but he has quite amusing previous life...
Shu? Not problematic huh really? Well, i still remember back the he was talking shit about holo back then on discord lmao
The people who make the decisions in nijisanji especially on the en side got to be the dumbest people ever. Like who set up there and thought it would be a good idea for a 100 dallor concert with just 2D while your rival agency having a 70 dallor concert with 3D.
I thought it was 50-60 for normal seats?
@@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726 Not even that, it was 33 USD against 110 USD. The disparity in price for quality is fucking insane.
@@whoareyouwhoamidoesitmatte2726 The Niji Online Tickets cost more than the Holo reg in person tickets
On the EXACT Same fuckin day too! They really thought they can still “compete” with Hololive.
And then there is Ducky who i was on DreamHack. Literally one of the people who is thought to be a hardcore Nijisister, was at a Hololive Event. I guess he can't beat the weasel allegations too.
Can't wait for that guy to praise this "concert" as the best ever in the industry
@@Verxx-sc2tl And trying to desecrate DreamHack... despite he attend it that one.
Also the fact that guy is known to be a weasel as well, since Niji is on the losing side now.
So where are the nijisisters who swore they're gonna protect the company and their "precious" top favorite livers? I thought they are capable of supporting them till death
They're still supporting them. This is nothing
The Miku Expo Concert Event is much better than the Virtual Rhapsody Nijisanji concert.
Don't compare that shit to Miku😅
Dont insult the OG of great virtual idols!
@@mukti5896 no mikuexpo this year was absolute dogshit like it was a screen with miku on it + some horror stories about the actual venue and stuff (iirc someone pissed on the floor and everyone around them just had to. stand in it cuz it was so full)
@@kosmalover True enough but still comparing an actual Person with a Program is not the same.
Fr 😭
The crowd at hololive were amazing. (My voice is gone still lol)
The atmosphere is really amazing during Holo concerts. I remember the clip of the 2 fans dancing with each other to Nenes song and dance.
The fact Nijisanji shows that thier talents can perform in 3D via AR Live gives hope the Virtual Rapsody is a surprise 3D concert but its just a blatant money grab scheme
They did not do wrong though, it was shown in the promotional, 2D spinning Yay..
The Mouse cursor looks 3D enough for me 💀
110 USD FOR A NORMAL SEAT 💀
Btw, they wrote Milllie's name accurate. She just took another L with her so it kinda fits the lore.
I can't help but think the Niji event would have been fine and well put together for a small but enthusiastic Vtuber company that is still finding it's feet. The problem is that Niji is well established, fairly large, and really should be pushing the benchmark with Hololive instead of struggling to keep up.
Nijisanji blew up too fast, especially with the Luxiem wave. With them, Tazumi found the golden goose and he's now milking it for every golden egg it still has before it dies.
For those outrageous prices they demanded, I would expect a masterpiece. But it's Niji, sooo.... they didn't even try.
Not only was Hololive cheaper, but their performance was many leagues above them.
Also MILLLE? I know they are taking L's, but that's ridiculous.... 💀
As a Filipino, I'm happy for what Millie, and Nijisanji is experiencing right now because I now they deserved this 😂
ew ayusin mo muna grammar mo
Ah yes classic of hitting the shield but not the person 😂
Honestly, it's almost unfair to compare Niji concerts to Holo concerts since the two company really doesn't focus on the same things. But watching Niji get slammed for the shit their EN branch does is really satisfying.
Tbh I have two friends who are fans and I just have to play along with them because it is making them happy. But even they are disappointed with the company, they don’t put any money into niji thank god and they were sad to see everything go down. I’ve tried multiple times to say just ignore the shit going on and watch who they want and that I will look at the stuff going on. They were really upset and them being upset made me upset like idk what to do now…
Heart break will heal with times, just keep along with them, and maybe they would find new oshi's later, hopefully from a better agency.
@@signumxmagnum Only one of them has an Oshi in the agency I think it’s Petra I could be wrong tho the other ones oshi is U-San but if you know your know…
I was at the dreamhack venue and the quality between Dreamhack and what i saw of Virtual Rhapsody was shocking.
It is kinda expected for that Niji live event to be almost empty with all drama they had
A houndred and WHAT??????
Holy...
Man the crappy quality of the event makes me kind of feel bad for the talents… Niji won’t pay for them to actually have anything decent, just leech off them for cash
The comparison between the two events can actually go beyond just the production value, but really the sheer difference in company cultures. The fact that Hololive can send talents from all three branches shows how well it's worked to have the branches consistently collab, interact, and form real friendships with each other. The fact that they set up a full 3D concert shows that they care more about supporting the talents and their creativity wherever they are in the world, whereas Niji is infamous for hoarding their 3D assets and equipment within Japan. And the fact that Holo put in this much effort for a sub-event of a much larger gaming event shows genuine humility and also pragmatic good sense in trying to introduce adjacent fandoms to vtubers.
I don't really want to come off as a fanboy, but these are all values that don't just come with every company out there, let alone all together in a single one.
What they're doing there is what they're doing on a normal karaoke stream. It's just that the screen is a lot bigger lmaooo
I do watch Riku's tweet. The fact that he attend someone else's concert but not the livers really shows that Riku doesn't care about the livers, he care about his money and a bunch of yes man (and bootlicker as well) to take care of his yacht.
Whose concert did he attend?
@@kylewoodowens4488 idk, he didn't give any description about it, but you can check his tweet
@@alifdanial8007 its ChroNoiR concert..
@@alifdanial8007 "attend someone else's concert but not the livers"
I just checked his tweets, it's literally ROF-MAO and chronoir...? Riku do be getting Ls but god damn y'all got to be doing some simple reading 🥱
@@rad2400 but still, why is he not giving any description or explanation at all if he attended the concert?
I feel sad for ONE of the livers being a part of this, empty and expensive karaoke stream which the management called "A CONCERT"
Meanwhile in Hololive, now that's what you call "A CONCERT"
Give the people what they want.
First rule of business.
You take care of your customers and they will take care of you.
Yeah. Too bad that is a rare practice lawl
This is the karma i want for nijisanji, not the harassment on Twitter
Nijisanji EN’s demise proceeding full speed.
Niji gonna Niji, what a joke.
2024 is good mannn, as a long time holo fan, i finally can freely mock at nijisanji without getting hated now damnn
The contrast between this and their Anime Impulse reception earlier this year is tragic. Such a massive fall from grace.
Genuinely feel bad for the livers that have had to push through this last few months that werent involved at all. A bunch of these talents will have been basically forced into doing this and hold the role of face of the event while the bs team in charge of actually setting up and running the event in the background did a god-awful job of it. Mis-spelling Millie's name on the exact same slide as the correct spelling, the cursor, the shoddy venue setup, the fucking PRICE???? awful.. Pleading to all of the livers to refuse contract renewals at all costs.
3:41 OMG YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE CURSOR, on the left purple bow and then on the neck, bro... that's so shit...
This is just really sad. I pity the remaining loyal nijisanji fans. The niji management is just straight up extorting both their talents and their fans so that they can afford buying yachts.
Im a Vtuber in Singapore and I didn't even know this was happening 😭 there was no advertising for it whatsoever
The yacht is at the bottom of the ocean and it still manages to catch on fire
Like something out of spongebob
Nijisanji farming their fans for cash by overcharging for a minimal effort production while Hololive gives their fans more than their money's worth at a reasonable price? Next you're gonna tell me the sky is blue and water is wet~
Nah I just gonna say that Sun is blinding when you look at it directly😊
In all seriousness, I doubt SEA people gonna come to the concert since only young adults (18-30) might going to such event but their pricing is too absurd for those in that age group unless they are filthy rich and not to mention travel and accomodation fees.
Niji truly is thriving
In EMBARRASSMENT
Their audience are like their heart... Its empty
No, no, they didn't misspell Millie's name, she just took that L after the Niji Drama
Why are we surprised these events failed? Considering how much work Selen now Doki put into these kinds of things without her they will flop
They really shot themselves in the foot by forcing their most profitable and popular female streamer out, especially when a lot of their sponsors then bailed and started sponsoring Doki, instead.
Meanwhile, Doki is still taking Ws, and is soaring to greater heights than before. Plus, she is now in full control of her career and seems to be in much better spirits than before.
@@AO968 Nah Doki is just lucky with her "Sad" story. I still despise the pricing for these for a Hololive 3D wortgy concert prices however
@@demoman858ah yes, a niji defender, a rare specimen nowadays
7:43 Lmao Millie literaly just taking another L
This hurts my heart for the livers, they truly shouldn’t have to go through terrible management along with empty seats.
Everyone can hate the company all they want, hell I dislike the company. However I will never hate the livers, cause so many of them are genuinely kind.
People can reply back and I will not give a damn about what you have to say about “This Liver did this”, “This liver did that”, I will take everything with face value until the “Management Team” does something about it.
And for my sake and the livers, don’t fucking compare. I will admit that the difference was crazy, it made me hella speechless, but how insensitive can you be to compare the Niji En livers to the Holo En livers? It’s childish, stupid even.
I mean this in the most supportive way I can think of. I truly, truly hope the en livers will leave Nijisanji, cause they don’t deserve this shit, they don’t deserve Nijisanji, they have the talents, they have the kindness, all that is left is a straight path ahead for a brighter future. Until those days come, I’m gonna keep praying for them and wishing that they will someday move past such an ugly and empty company.
Although the livers did kinda bring this upon themselves for not leaving sooner, I still have hope for them, even if at times, it seems faint. I don't know if any of the allegations are true or not, but deep in my heart, I refuse to believe most of these livers are genuinely bad people with bad intentions.
Are they a little stupid? Sure. Are there genuinely some bad eggs? Sure.
But I seriously do hope it will finally click in their heads that Nijisanji truly ain't worth working for, before it's too late. Fuck, they don't even need to reincarnate into another company or go indie. Just getting out of there and living a "regular" life is all they need. I wouldn't blame them if they don't want to come back to streaming- not with that black stain they will be mocked, condemned, and associated with for the rest of their life.
Otherwise, I can't see anything for them if they keep refusing to leave Niji. The company doesn't care about them, and they need to see that. I'm extremely frustrated they don't, but I know they can. I know it. I've seen it happen before, both online and real life. It has to happen. I believe in them.
@@nepnepguythegreatestofall6032 I believe in them too, don’t get me wrong. Everything that I’m saying is me hoping for the best for them all.
I totally understand and agree with you if they decided to not stream anymore, but it still kind of hurts cause streaming and doing related things was part of their dreams you know?
So I hope if they do decide to go, I hope they will never give up on their dreams, U-San didn’t, Matara didn’t, and now I know Michi didn’t either. So let’s keep on believing in them, so when they do leave, they can continue to shine.
Man, it must be a performer's worst nightmare to see empty hall on your show you were so excited for.
If it was a free event, then I wouldn't be bothered with something that turned out to be a karaoke stream. If it was modestly priced, I wouldn't be bothered by something that was more low key. But it cost more than a full 3d concert for something you can see from any vtuber on any given day for free. I would feel pretty ripped off.
My most generous guess is that announcing it 10 days before means it was a last minute thing and that led to something unimpressive. But if that is accurate, then they needed to price it accordingly.
10 days is just the most recent marketing push. We knew about this so called "concert" before they even re-announced the AR Live.
At this point NIJISANJI EN is an absolute joke, and it’s filled with a bunch of hypocrites
If it merges with NIJISANJI JP, it’s making me lose brain cells because it never learns from its mistakes
If I see NIJISANJI EN going beyond by breaking the law by flipping off and insulting Hololive or even hard doxxing each and every talent in a situation like Yakirisu, Cover may cut ties with AnyColor because of how nonexistent and immature this is.
They would never do it themselves, they would release their attack dog, the niji sister.
Yeah the most annoying biological weapon, the nijidogs😂
I live in singapore and i didnt even realise there's a niji event.... but i even know about the dreamhack appearance lol
for 140 dollars singaporean can go to KL for onigiri’s meet and better food 😂. that’s actually insulting to fans who spent money for niji ‘concert’