"Duryard!" | Two Of These People Are Lying 1x03 | The Technical Difficulties
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- The last episode in this season! And we go out with Duryard and Willoughby Run, plus the phrase "chert nodules".
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Featuring: Matt Gray: mattg.co.uk - @MattGrayYes
Gary Brannan: @garybrannan
and Chris Joel, who doesn't do this social media nonsense
Edited by Elliot Gough
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And that's the experimental run of three! I, er, suspect we might come back to this format. -- Tom
aww, that's it‽
unni my thought exactly
MOAR
Series 2 please!
Aw man, this series is amazing!
I love how everyone is playing to win, except Gary who is just trying to make Tom lose.
And he's quite good at it
He got a point though!
Tomato Bastard, well playing to make Tom Lose is a win in and of itself, don't you agree you god damned Tomato Bastard? Oh and... Jävlar anamma en talande tomat.
@@Cruxador just the way he is sat
He's absolutely nailed the meta game of that.
My milkshake brings all the boys to Duryard
And they're like, 'it's better than York."
Matt definitely was the one who hearted this
@@adiuntesserande6893 i love you ppl....
@@zvign7554 I'll teach you, but... you'll have to be a student at Exeter.
Hfjgjgfdhrrdfjyy this is comedy gold
I LIVE IN EXETER I THOUGHT GARY WAS TALKING SH¡T!!
IS IT JUST ME OR WAS HE PRONOUNCING IT WRONG TOO
AS SOMEONE FROM DEVON SO DID I
nice pfp
@@pinkertonbyweezer agreed
Same here
We need a season 2 please and thank you Thomas
Its weird to see Tom called Thomas
Eh, I regard this more as pilot episodes.
Don't put it all on Thomas. Matthew shares equal responsibility for this channel.
Without @UCintjmzn5Ic_EKmVY5PH1SA's comment I wouldn't even have realised that "Thomas" refers to Tom; I'd assumed OP is a Thomas and signed their comment like some old person.
Anyway, about season 2: How about changing the rules so instead of getting a point for convincing the guesser (whether that'll be Tom again or someone else), you get a point for misleading them? (So if you're lying nothing changes, but if you're telling the truth, you want to not get picked, but to achieve that you can't be too obvious about it. Maybe there should be a referee who makes sure that you didn't say anything false.)
This suggestion is inspired by the outcome of the 1st round. (Gary: "Well, that's a shame, but I had fun.") Oh, and now that I'm continuing to watch the rest of the video, Tom says: "That's not how the game's meant to work, Gary!" That convinces me even more that it would be fun to see what would happen if the game was meant to work that way.
Of course this would make the task of the guesser more difficult. So how about this: The BS artists are guests who go through a tournament-style bracket (like in Lateral or Game On). In each round, they can score up to three points, because they have to convince (or mislead) Chris, Gary, and Matt - the guessers, who take turns asking questions and then decide individually. Tom gets his laptop back and is host and referee. Matt gets his headphones back and directs the show and mixes the audio while trying to concentrate on what the contestants are saying. Yeah that's slightly sadistic, but I know he can do it and it's just so nice to see a broadcast engineer of that calibre at work.
In case the score is tied, the contestants still in the running will have to brave a short and extremely silly bonus round. E.g. a Burt Bacharach's back crack sack race.
We want more!
Chris always sounds convincing, Garry always sounds unconvincing and Matt always has convincing details
Miren Summers this is accurate
Marcel and Judith
When Matt isn't talking in circles
Mononym
is it bad that as soon as i heard "burt bacharach", i could only think of "burt bacharach's back sack and crack"?
It's either from their podcasts or the early Citation Needed
@@Trek001 early Citation Needed I think
Nah, I did exactly the same
@@OlanKenny I think it's in the Reverse Trivia podcasts.
They also mentioned it in an episode of the park bench
I've lived in Exeter all my life and never heard of Duryard.
xD thats when you know its an obscure wikipedia article
It's at the 'back' of the university, a bit further away from the city centre than Imperial or Birk's Grange, starting at Lower Argyle Road. I used to live there
@@alejoblack368 If you had a garden where you grew Durio zibethinus trees, it could have been a Duryard durian yard!
@@piranha031091 urgh
@@halimceria I feel you
I am legitimately disappointed that there wasn’t a famous sportsman who would just raise up his fists and triumphantly say “Duryard!” whenever he did good.
Be the change to want to see in the world.
"Westward -> Westwood" is a weirdly specific gag to come up twice on one channel.
Timothy McLean Tbh it’s one of my favorite running gags in citation needed even though I have no idea who Tim Westwood is
@@nataliemccarthy9140 He hosts "Pimp My Ride UK", and is a DJ and TV/radio host
Three times?
Probably not that weirdly specific if you're a Brit for whom the name is familiar in pop culture.
@@ZeldaTheSwordsman It is with a heavy heart that I confess to being American, rather than British.
Gary: *Clarifies twice that he misunderstood Tom's question.*
Tom: *Continues to ignore Gary's clarifications up until the end of the round.*
How is Gary so good at seeming like he's completely bullshitting?
You have to be REALLY good at something to pretend you're that bad at it
@@fredhenry101 I thought maybe he was pulling a long con by pretending to be bad when he's telling the truth so Tom can't tell when he's lying but this was the last episode so....
Tbh in this episode it was more that the others weren't properly listening.
Gary said students at Uni Exeter live there, it's a residence
And they conclude "Oh so youre saying Duryard has a university"
I think what it is is, he's not the best at memorizing stuff from an article at a quick read. Which makes him vulnerable to whiffing the presentation.
Upon rewatching it is frustrating how poorly Tom listens to Gary. He repeatedly corrected Tom and co and said that the university wasn't "duryard university" but that it was close to a university and thats why students live there, and even at the very end Tom still goes "There's a university in a town called Duryard?!" 😂
Gary sounded so unsure with bloody Duryard
It seemed like his game was to make Tom think it wasn't him :D
@@Carewolf But thats not how this works
I have a feeling Gary was just enjoying messing with Tom
@@obliviousotterI Convincing Tom it's NOT your answer when it actually is should also be points, to be honest.
I spot a pattern here. Remember Lentokenttä, which somewhat implausibly had a population of 12 and an airport? And was true, it being that obscure small division of Vantaa that contains Helsinki Vantaa Airport and... not a lot of houses. So Gary tries a similar tactic: that part of Exeter (perhaps obscure for people who don't live in Exeter?) which contains the university.
I so badly wanted someone to say that "Willoughby Run" was a cricket move named after a player.
Named after a player who's name is Run
You should introduce them
Chris "that seems very plausible" Joel
Gary "strike out his option dramatically" Brannan
And, Matt "glandular leaves" Gray
Edit: Other good suggestions from the replies are Matt "triangular glandular leaves" Gray, and Matt "he's got a Latin GCSE" Gray (I actually like the Latin GCSE one)
You made me laugh harder than today's episode. Good stuff ^^
Gary "*pencil scratching sound*" Brannan
Or Matt "Latin GCSE" Gray
@@DSP1337 :)
@Jitse Kuilman +
Azeem's is also quite good
This episode is sponsored by chert. Chert: you don’t know what it is, and you’ll miss the start of the episode because you’ll be too busy googling it.
Chert. It's distracting.
@@fanbladeinstruments omg it's been so long since I heard that gag, I can't remember if it was originally chert or if this is some weird gag based on that one
@@LilyRoseGames chert is a very hard rock that forms in weird little reniform nodules
@@annijaklamer Reniform?
I love how Matt's Anton Duryard is like a Pokémon, shouting his own name
Matt metagaming at the end was brilliant. I love this new format. Please make more.
sirrliv I didn’t get the joke. How was Matt’s article metagamimg?
He had picked Slightly Latin as one of his articles and just changed the name to Willoughby Run to fit the round.
yeah it took me about 5 or 10 repeat viewings over two years to finally get what he was saying... Only then did I realize that this being the last one they were doing meant he wouldn't need his article anymore so he could just pretend his article had been drawn and just replace the name.
@@sourcererseven3858 I rewatched it and you can hear him unfolding his article at the end to show the others that Slightly Latin was the one he wrote down.
In case anyone is curious as to the scores on season 1, they are as follows:
Tom III
Matt III
Chris II
Garry I
Maybe Gary would do better if he stopped trying to convince Tom it's not his when it is.
@@AgentTasmania Yeah, but that wouldn't be as hilarious
@@AgentTasmaniawell and maybe itll help in the long run
Tom was right about the obscure Beatles number: Track 8 on Slightly Latin is "And I Love Her", which originally appeared on A Hard Day's Night.
I initially thought he was talking about the Cabaret Voltaire guy from Sheffield!
Funny you call it obscure because it's definitely not that obscure where I live.
So Matt described an actual album that exists and then just applied the name Willoughby Run to it? That's too funny
I've noticed that when Matt is lying he tends to default to New South Wales. It is just recognisable enough but Tom doesn't know enough about it to call Matt out.
Am I the only one that likes to believe that Tom's house is in a void, and that allows him to teleport places so he can make his videos all over the world.
Well seeing as we've seen Matt's Kitchen here, Gary's Kitchen, and Chris's Kitchen, I presume we have to assume this until they record in Tom's Kitchen.
so a tardis basically?
Tom has a tiny flat I believe. Also pre-recording
It's a tardis stuck as a dining room
Well the void is red so makes sense
I thought Matt was telling the truth because Roland Kirk is a real jazz musician and Matt doesn't strike me as a jazz fan. After 14:22 It all makes sense now.
I still dont know how to hear "Students at the Uni of Exeter live there, it's a residence" and conclude "Wtf Gary, are you saying duryard has a university"
I love that the Duryard wikipedia article has been updated to include a reference to this episode
So has Willoughby Run
Both were added by the same user, and both have since been (rightly imo) removed.
I was really wondering how Matt managed to come up with so many plausible details on that last one.
Well played, sir...
gonna need more of this now that you all got the hang of it. this is brilliant.
also let one of the other guys guess who's lying, I wanna see Tom open up his brain of knowledge of things.
Tom is either godlike or horrible in the other position.
Muffi Gaming
Horrible, according to Gary.
well they could swap each season
yeah, and make the person who guesses who is not bullshiting rotate, or like, show guests. That would solve the issue of knowing the handwritings
Love how Tom said "Gary Brannan" and his reflex response was "Good day"... That's why he is everyone's favourite ❤️
I live in Adams County Pennsylvania and immediately recognized Willoughby Run. Fun to see that this was one of the articles selected.
Funny that, he said "creek in Pennsylvania" and I was like "yeah whatever, Matt is the one telling the truth", but then he said "Adams county" and I thought to myself: it's not very Brannan-ly to know the name of a county in southern PA.
speaking of which, hello from your eastern neighbor county
I knew it the moment you read the name. Willoughby Run runs along the old Gettysburg battlefield.
Right next to Ike's farm and New Oxford
So that's where I heard that name before!
I figured when he said Adams County that he wouldn’t have picked that county name as a guess.
I really miss citation needed, but loving this fresh change in format and getting to hear more from Tom. This shows more then anything the chemistry between all of them and it doesn’t matter what they are talking about or format, these are just four funny and intelligent people. Come on BBC, there’s some quality radio 4 content here!
Matt found the problem with the format. It's too easy to reduce Tom to guessing by reading an extra Wikipedia article and reciting that if yours doesn't get chosen.
But its funny so it works
Or reciting yours anyway if Slightly Latin was in the pile
Yeah I mean, this is only a flaw if the players are actually motivated to do that. Just don't.
I mean, you call it a problem, but leaving Tom spluttering and confused is probably the best return on investment the viewing audience is going to get, so might as well go for it.
At 0:56 notice how Chris and Matt laugh but Garry is unmoved. He already knows the work and isn't surprised by its wacky nature of pronounciation.
I was sure Matt was right since a Roland Kirk album from 1965 seemed familiar. And it was - Slightly Latin, which included tracks with credits for Lennon/McCartney and Burt Bacharach
Deep cut
I could tell Matt was lying when he didn't call it New Bottom Wales.
In hindsight, you can tell that 7:34 is exactly where Gary decided how he would play the game from here on forward.
I love everything that happens when y'all get together!
The chemistry is truly a blessing.
I'm rewatching this and the second Gary said ".....you are correct!" there was a thundering outside.
If Matt knew "New South Wales" was actually a place in Australia, he would've said "New Bottom Wales"
Chris led Tom down a tangent about Chert.
Chert: It’s distracting.
oh my god
Then Tom called Chris out on saying stuff that weren't in the article, after asking Chris about something not in the article. Tom really can't understand his own questions.
@@Liggliluffi thought that 😂
tom: tell me about the article
chris: tells tom about the article
tom: asks a question that’s not about the article
chris: answers the question that’s not about the article
tom: i don’t believe that’s from the article
he got so distracted by the chert he forgot how to play the game
Over the series of six articles, Gary and Matt were both picked three times. Are we sure Chris really put in an answer?
That's not how randomness works. Even if something has a nearly nil chance of occurring, it can still happen several times in a row.
It's kind of like people playing XCOM complaining that a 92% chance to hit missed a couple of times.
@@ShroudedWolf51 Those people do have a point though, don't they? Randomness in a good game should sacrifice some of its random nature to be more in line with the average perception of randomness.
@@Kubboz The issue in this context is that true randomness is necessary in order to make sure that Tom can only guess based on the game itself. If Tom knew, based on the last person to have their article chosen, that they were then *less* likely to have their article chosen, he could use that information to make a more accurate guess.
@@Spenfen Yes, that is right. I did not have the issue with the game itself, it's more about the analogy ShroudedWolf used. Guess it was a little bit nitpicky.
(2/3)^6 is about 9%, so it was not as vanishingly unlikely as I initially thought
Chert was an opening gag on one of the early TechDif audio-only episodes
"Chert: It's distracting!"
Still think a good name for this series would be "Plausible"
It would be, but then they'd be hearing it from the Discovery Channel.
So we had at least two callbacks to the Reverse Trivia podcast - chert and Burt Bacarach. All we needed was FINCHLEY!! for a hat-trick.
Burt Bacarach was mentioned in Citation Needed too.
Specifically in the Hydraulic Telegraph if I am not to be mistaken.
@@oz_jones Also on the Park Bench, where Matt and Tom disagreed on exactly how the joke should be phrased. (For the record, I agree with Tom: rhythm matters.)
I'm *_from_* Nebraska and I never would have thought to use it as a town like that! How did that come to his head?!
I'm highly suspicious here that Chris may have known a bit about Nebraska, because there's an Exeter Nebraska that really is a railroad town and was part of the western expansion... and if he knew in advance that Duryard was in Exeter, the connection there is an insane show of genius. Either that, or the whole thing is an insane bit of coincidence.
He reads books, you know.
Willoughby Run?
No. A bee will fly.
Damn it
I love that I can find this episode by simply searching for "duryard" and also that the second suggested video is a welcome video for the university of Exeter
What was Gary's opening line that we never heard?!?!?!
Harvey Soper you’ll never know, but be assured, it was peachy.
I'm almost certain that he messed up on purpose
Lost to the ages.
Maybe the real opening line was that he had no opening line.
The real opening line was the friends we made along the way.
I swear Gary is contracted to say "one of us tells the truth, the other only lies!" at least once in every Technical Difficulties show
Here in America, we call creeks runs sometimes. I live by Willoughby run and I can say indeed: there are trees in water.
Can we just congratulate Matt on an absolutely incredible effort on his Willoughby Run lie. Was completely convinced there.
This series creates a dangerous amount of false knowledge in my Head-
I realized how Chris is so convincing. Very regularly, he ties his answer to another player's. For example, referencing how Duryard, NE must be named after Duryard, or how the eroding river valley was formed by what the run in Pennsylvania is currently experiencing. Even though at least one of those two things must be bs, it adds an air of validity because he is referencing something he didn't say.
Gary knows exactly how the game is supposed to work, he might not get as many points as he could but it's very very enjoyable.
Rewatching this and I can't help but think we *need* to get the Technical Difficulties on Game Changer
Really enjoying watching a second time knowing who was lying! Its really fascinating hearing the small line they each say to indicate the truth under the guise of a joke.
If you look up Roland Kirk, you'll find that, among the instruments he played, were NOSE FLUTES!!!
I live about 30 mins away from Willoughby Run. Can confirm, literally everything around here is just trees and water.
I like Roland Kirk's music, so I was completely convinced by Matt, to the extent I was like "wait, I think I've heard of that album". Unfortunately, being a casual Jazz fan means there's always albums you don't know because everyone has 80 of them.
I love that you base the truthfulness of Matt's statements off of how big of words he uses.
Tom missed something... Gary said at one point "One of the two of us is lying..." implying that he knew one of them was telling the truth and thus giving away the answer.
Except that line could have just been a bluff
I don't really get this comment. The only moment in the episode I find this to be relevant was after Tom guessed Chris and was wrong, therefore there's only two left.
I will miss techdiff
btw this Format rocks! It'll be more interesting (maybe) if the guesser rotates. Also, Tom should trust Gary more
I think for rotating the guesser inside of an episode they'd want to have a 5th person to handle the papers. Maybe they'll do another go with someone else at the wheel?
Tom should get other English UA-camrs and rotate the other three. Or have him be one of the article bearer.
I forget which it was, but either Matt or Gary on Twitter mentioned that Tom isn't pulling any articles because he's terrible at lying.
Ricky Cruz
Fair enough. It’s still fun to see him participate more actively in the game, instead of just being quiz master and cat herder.
@@peterknutsen3070 +
“Shallow water with all trees in it” is the absolute most Brannan phrase ever...
It’s up there with describing Fingal’s Cave as having “all sea in it!”
Nillie Ah, I knew it reminded me of something! I still go back and listen to the old audio eps from time to time, they’re bloody brilliant!
this was a surprisingly fun mini series and looking forward to what other ideas you have and will definitely be looking forward to its return if it does
Very funny to me that Willoughby Run was misspelled as Willaghby Run, really proves that whoever wrote on the paper didn't look it up themselves
If this is as good as the others, I'm about to have a jolly good time
13:17 The under-the-breath "You bellend" had me cackling
I can't stop re-watching these. This is such a great format for a show. I hope they bring it back post-vaccinations
I believe there’s one coming out on Christmas Eve or Day (I forget) and another one on New Years Eve or Day (again... I forget!!) 😆
I'm in Adams county Pennsylvania right now actually, and I may or may not have some insight about Gary's answer.
0:12 Matt's laugh is one of nature's greatest sounds.
Fun fact. There's also a region of Exeter called Pennsylvania. There are a lot of students living there
Ok, the bit about Matt's metagaming had me laughing at the end there...anyways, I really hope you guys make more of this series, it's been amazingly hilarious and enjoyable, and I hope it becomes a full series!
2:18 _flashbacks to... _*_that_*_ face, from... _*_that_*_ video_
14:36 "That's not how the game's supposed to work, Gary!" It's...not? My number one strategy if I was telling the truth would be to pretend like I've never heard the word before in my life.
Now I want to make a jazz album called 'Will a Bee Run?' and cover some obscure Beatles songs
I love how Gary sounds like he is making stuff up on the spot.
Either he wants to fool Tom or he truly can't remember it.
I think he might be bad at remembering from a rapid read, considering how badly he flubbed this and Hurcon.
Properly one quarter of the wikipedia article on Duryard is mentioning that it was mentioned here.
Actually, that last strategy Matt was using there seems pretty good. Try to plaster the title chosen onto something else you've memorized the facts for. Depending on the limitations imposed on what you do in between rounds it could be a one-time trick for the whole game, but it's pretty good. Could be a little unethical, but pretty good.
Amusingly the Wikipedia article for "Duryard" now contains as of October 2020 - "This was featured in Tom Scott's show, Technical Difficulties (Two of These People are Lying)."
Matt: *uses three syllable word*
Tom: Gotta be true!
Just kidding Matt we love ya : )
Still better entertainment than anything on the telly, I seem to gravitate through all these and the citation needed episodes every couple of years which apparently is enough time to forget enough to re-enjoy them anew.
Westward Westwood was also in the Benjamin Rush episode
It's also one of the other songs on the Roland Kirk album
I would absolutely love more seasons of this. It's an amazingly hilarious format that the audience can play along with very easily.
I would love to see this or Tabletop Time Machine come back. I basically love anything you 4 do as a group.
I can't express enough how entertaining I find you guys.
I am always so depressed and feel let down when these are done.
Time to go back and watch reruns...for the 4th time.
"Duryard Youth" sounds like a great follow up to the band Reagan Youth.
"I was telling you about the Roland Kirk album, 'Slightly Latin'." ah yes, thank you matt
I miss the park bench
Don’t we all
3 years late, but I went to Exeter University, and I was in halls just up the hill from Duryard, and I STILL didn't believe Gary!
It's definitely the delivery.
When you do a proper season of this jolly madness, I hope Tom gets to be one the guys with an article. Would love to see him referencing one of the many obscure things he encountered on his many journeys!
If only Matt had known the Roland Kirk was famous for playing two saxophones at the same time haha
I absolutely love that Chris and Matt quite clearly know that Gary’s telling the truth and by the end they both know that the other does too
This goes full circle from lentoasema - Roland Kirk plays the nose flute!
We've gotten to the end of the run, and Gary has finally figured out that he's supposed to be getting points.
Possible extension to make the game crazy hard: add a forth randomly selected article that none of them know. There's a possibility that all of them are lying
Better than citation needed. I said it. Bloody love this!!! We need series 2 please
Anyone else realize that Tom completely forgot about what chert is?
Ep. 16 of the Reverse Trivia Podcast was sponsored by "Chert: it's distracting."
I love how Gary neglected to mention the most interesting part of Willoughby Run, and that is it runs through Gettysburg battlefield.
A lot of rivers in eastern Pennsylvannia are called 'Kill', such as 'Schuylkill', from, I believe, a Dutch word for 'creek'. So that's why I thought 'Run' might not be correct for a PA River.