I really appreciate the fact that you recommend (and don't recommend) certain vehicles based on your personal experience as a mechanic and not on just simple "research" like so many others do. This adds a lot of credibility to your channel.
Nice 👍 I still have my 2006 Elantra w/5 speed manual transmission and it’s been a reliable car. It’s my daily commuter and I do all the maintenance myself. The only issue I had around 175K miles was a bad front brake caliper. End up replacing both calipers and rotors along with a complete brake flush. 225K miles later, she still getting me from point A to Z 😁
I own a 2009 Hyundai Elantra. It has 275k miles, I put on 100k since I purchased it and its still going. Evap has gone bad recently. But other than that and other regular wear items it's been very reliable.
@@claycoates5056 Well, even if you maintain the car and used only genuine manufacturer parts, those parts can sometimes be 'defective' and it may not be obvious - initially. If you put that brand new part on your car not knowing that it is defective and the part breaks, as in a timing belt, then what??? So, I agree with the comment from happystar1000.
Sea Gull they make interference engines because they’re more efficient. Get rid of emission regulations and manufacturers would be more open to making non-interference engines.
The 5th gen Elantra was for the model years 2011-2016. The 6th gen Elantra, starting as a 2017 model, was offered to the North American market in January 2016. The main bearing issue in the 5th gen Elantra was supposedly an oil starvation issue caused by the use of aftermarket oil filters. If you have a 2011 or newer Elantra, always use Hyundai/Kia brand oil filters, or aftermarket oil filters that have the same design as the OEM oil filter.
I've had a Kia Spectra5 2007 (Basically an Elantra) it had 280k on the engine and transmission. I've maintained it regularly myself. I frikkin' loved it!!! But we moved to Europe... and now, my friend is using it as a backup car... Just WAOW!
I think this type of information is very helpful when someone like myself is looking for a cheap commuter car. I wish someone would start a spreadsheet with all makes/models of cars and which were the best/worst with details like this. Mechanics like this guy know this stuff off the top of their heads, I would just like to see them share all their knowledge. This is great.
I have a 05 elantra which he said after 04 they got the continuous VVT which makes sense cause my engine can sometimes shoot up quick to high speed with hard acceleration and it's very reliable
100% on the money with this video! 170,000 miles on my 07 Elantra and virtually nothing has ever needed work outside of routine maintenance, which I’ve learned to do myself because it’s so simple. I think the only thing that’s ever gone bad was the O2 sensor, which took me all of 10 minutes to replace 🤣 I even let my friend use it for a 5,000 mile road trip because I trust it so much I’ve actually done an amortized cost analysis of routine maintenance expenses for my car. Excluding purchase price, insurance, registration, and gas, the car has cost me roughly $30 per 1,000 miles. Ridiculously cheap and easy car to own
I have a 2007 Elantra I bought in 2008 with 20K miles. The best car I have ever owned. Handles like a go cart, decent acceleration, and still gets 36mpg on highway trips. I bought mine Cert preowned and got 4 years of oil changes. After that I switched to Full Synthetic Mobile 1 oil and Mobile One extended filters and have had ZERO problems. I have replaced batteries a few times and tires/brakes. I did the timing belt and water pump at 100K miles and the belt was still in good shape but the water pump seemed worn. I replaced it with all OEM Hyundai parts and it cost $550 for a shop to do it including the parts. Everything still works except the passenger mirror light, every other button works like normal. My sunroof opens like it did back in 2008 and doesn't leak. I even added a tow hitch and can tow up to 1500 pounds. I tow a 4 x 8 trailer to take garbage to the county dump. I have mostly owned sports cars until I bought this and I miss my new Corvettes and Formulas and RX-7 and Viper but if I have to have just 1 car, the Elantra is a decent choice. ( I used to make great $ in the 90's but not anymore ) Mine still looks like a 3 or 4 year old car on the inside after 121,000 miles. These are actually really good cars.
@@hansselabreu649 I normally get 30-31 MPG around town, 35-36 on highway trips. I get up to speed fast, and set the cruise when I can, usually for 5 over the limit. I don't sit in traffic long, I am not in a huge city. 2007 was a new model, I would not own a 2006 or older, they had problems. I run the AC all thru the summer here in South Carolina as it gets 100+ from May to Sept.
Comprehensive and straight to the point! Thank you for such videos that are so rare on this overmarketing nowadays tube! I'm looking forward to lore about reliable Italian cars! There's almost no information about it if any! But I'm mad about them and want to buy any solid example! Cheers!
Speaking of reliable cars, my Wife purchased a brand new VW New Beetle GLS in June 2004. We still own this car and it has 94,000 original miles on it. We have maintained all required maintenance to include replacement of timing belt, serpentine belt, water pump and pulleys, A/T fluid and filter, and a couple of batteries. Many previous Beetle owner's complained of their cars. However, this car has been a really good car. It has never left us stranded. My wife bought a new 2018 Subaru Forester Premium in October 2017. However, we decided to keep the Beetle because it ran perfectly. Also, I did replace the shocks and struts with new Bilstein products. The ride is much improved.
I have a 2010 one. Has over 100K and aside from a few small things here and there it’s been reliable. Biggest thing I’ve needed so far was a new alternator.
This man speaks the truth. I had a 2007 Kia Rio (same bones) that I picked up for 500 bucks with 168000 miles. With some charging system upgrades (new battery & batt. cables, new alternator), emissions components upgrades (evap canister purge valve/solenoid--replacing it made the check engine light go away and not come back), and one passenger side ball joint...sounds like a lot, but the cost of these parts were kept only at parts prices because with the help of videos like these, I did all the labor myself! The power steering went out, one day I lost all my fluid and any fluid I tried to put back in would end up on the street. But the car is so light, power steering was not needed. The previous owner had a new clutch installed in January of 2018, approx. 6 months before I bought it, so that is probably going to outlast the car's life as a whole! Speaking of a clutch, the added benefit of a manual transmission will only make it last longer. Sadly, after 2 years of ownership, I needed more room to haul my kids and all my gear around, so I sold it for 800 bucks at 199000 miles, just a couple weeks ago. So I didnt own it for long, but I was damn impressed--Hyundai/Kia were not known for quality & longevity but ya gotta respect how much they've improved. The new owner (friend of mine) has tipped the odometer well over 200k and said his only complaint is the lack of power steering. 😆 Long read, thank you for staying with me if you got this far. And thank you @ratchetsandwrenches for your help.
2004 Hunday accent 👌 -can drive 6 hour strait with a full tank -ac super cold -low maintenance Oil and sparkplug change on time and it will run for ever. Mine survive to crashes and drove that gem until the speedometer stopped working, sold it for 200 bucks and dude still drives the car.
Hey also the 5spd accent from 2002, had one that lasted for over 200,000 miles, just routine maintence and one clutch replacement, that and 40 mpg all day long, great lil car, sometimes I miss her but then I remember how lil hrsprs she had and then the tears go away, 😄
My sister he had a gen 4 Elantra. Great car until it was wrecked in an accident. Did the a water pump and timing belt before we took a road trip to deliver it to her. She still wishes that she still had that car to this day.
I have an Hyundai Accent, 2008. I bought it with 113,000 miles. It's now got 123,000 and the engine is shot. Either head gasket or burned valve or shot rings... I've had it about 9 months... My previous car was a 2003 Accent, and I drove it from 150,000 to 317,000 miles!
As always, a very informative video. I bought a 1999 Hyundai Elantra GS new. I recently sold the car with almost 300,000 miles and it was still running. In 2005, I bought a new Hyundai Elantra GT and I still have it today with near 215,000. Both cars were and are very reliable for me. I have maintained them over the years and replaced essential parts before they wore out which I credit for the longevity. To sum it up, I have certainly gotten my money's worth out of these vehicles and I have nothing but good things to say about Hyundai. Like all vehicles, there are good ones and bad ones, but I believe maintenance and care dictates the life of the vehicle!
On a related note, 3rd generation Hyundai Accents are pretty darn reliable as well. I have a 2008 with over 210,000 miles on it, still gets 30+ mpg. GREAT VIDEO!
@@Ownsterx I serviced the fluid every 30K. The transmission shop that looked at it said there was a problem that year with the quality of the clutch packs and they tried to move the engagement point for third gear to a lower RPM and account for it by engaging the clutches slightly less aggressively. But the result of those things together was that the third gear clutches wore prematurely. He said every one he saw without exception was failure of the third gear clutch pack.
@@nvo5307 ownster owning up to be a dooshbag. I love how ppl hop on the internet like they know the other person and what they're doing with their stuff. Miserable fucks
@@Joseph-eh4rs I was the second owner so my warranty was reduced to 5 yr/60K. My local dealership was absolutely no help and came up with every excuse in the book not to have to fix it. And since it was just over 60K when it finally actually went from slipping to not shifting they claimed it was out of warranty anyway.
Hey, I own a KIA7 kia spectra(soul sister of Elantra). And I'm cheap so never replace until it's broken. I have 207K miles on my car and everything works except the drivers seat occupancy sensor. Shit I'm over with this car but it still keeps going. But just one suggestion always maintain your car 4,500 mile E-oil change; 40,000 mile Steering and Trans fluid change; 100K mile coolant and brake fluid flush. That's all I did.
@ i suppose but atleast with some you dont have to drop the entire assembly from underneath, as years have progressed it got worse with some better with others.
Some rave on Toyota but if you had a new 08 Highlander with the known cvvt issue, you'd be disappointed to find three stealerships refuse to fix it under warranty. $6K. We bought a new 13 Sonata, surprisingly quick, no problems at all we had to fix and dealers stood by all recalls. We love it. All cars have some issues. It's how they are handled that matters.
I've owned 2 elantras before, a 2016 Elantra GT which was a bullet proof car until the clutch grenaded.... And now, I own a 2019 Elantra GT N-LINE with a 1.6t engine, this car is amazing... I haven't driven anything better.
These Hyundais can be a pleasant surprise. 2009 Genesis here with 287k miles, much of it severe rideshare duty, and only one major repair. I don’t think I’m replacing my car anytime soon if ever.
When I met my wife she had an Elantra just like at 1:14 in this video. I drove it once and refused to ever drive it again or be a passenger. You had to continually adjust the steering just to keep it in the lane. If would overheat and the automatic transmission repeatedly failed. When we traded it in with 70,000 miles it was worth less than what she still owed, only $400. It was unsafe garbage, maybe the worst car I ever drove in. That permanently scared me from buying Hyundai cars.
Here in Yemen two makes are dominating the roads, Toyota and Hyundai/Kia. Most of them are imported used from the US, Canada, KSA and UAE When I was young there were Toyotas only, you rarely see another make, but when the economy fell down people started looking for cheaper cars, and nothing is cheap and reliable more than a used Hyundai, when 2007 Corolla was 10k$, 2007 Elantra was 7k$ only and maybe less with more features like sunroof and back camera, now there are lots of used japanese cars that were converted to LHD that are cheaper and they are Toyotas, so I bought one, a 2006 Toyota Noah, basically a more boxy Sienna with a 2.0 I4
Since the 4th gen, the police in my country started using them and they have been very reliable and can handle a lot of abuse, although we got a smaller 1.6l engine. The Accent is also very popular as a taxi and they are also extremely reliable cars.
I currently drive an elantra from 2015, with zero faults. I absolutely love it. Sadly I'm going to sell it because its my fathers (he owns it but i drive it) and wants to buy me a new car.
I had the 2007 Kia Spectra version of this Hyundai Elantra. At 4.5 years the transmission had to be replaced, fortunately under warranty. My mechanic had a 2007 Elantra and its transmission had to be replaced also.
Love your new videos. Some vehicals may be super cheap or reliable but maybe they have serious rust issues. Any chance we could get a video about cars that are rust proof and that rust away fast.
I've had 2 Camry's a Chevy Sprint in the 80s and a Honda CRX. All super reliable. The Chevy got amazing gas mileage. Over 50 mpg. I drove days on empty.
So far, so good with my 2011 Hyundai Elantra Touring GLS with a 2.0l engine - reliable, good on gas, lots of cargo space, decent performance. Great A to B transportation!
$4,000 USD for a 2009 Hyundai with 130,000 miles? I can find that same car in Toronto Canada for half the price. California must be a very expensive place to live.
@@MntRprznt yeah just like the entire USA. Big bailouts for the corporations and nothing for the working people USA is 3rd world country they don't know it yet Despise social welfare but getting Help by the federal reserve that's hypocritical of corporations and banks.
Recently bought a ‘09 Kia Spectra5. Nice to hear your comments on this power train. Mine has the hydraulic power steering, not electric. I don’t know if that’s a Canada only thing or if the internet is wonky on this. Anyway, replaced timing belt, flushed cooling system, highest grade fluid changes everywhere and now looking for lots of trouble free kms. Nice little car with lots of zip. I unsubscribed Scotty Kilmer who calls it the worst car ever. Appreciate your informative style without the rant, hype and over-generalizations.
I had an 04 Elentra and it was a good car but it eventually blew the head gasket and I remember the radiator would leak at the seams. I used that stop leak stuff which worked for a while till I just replace the plastic radiator. Then the head gasket blew and then I got a honda
Hi there I own a 2000 Elanta with 320k miles . Transmission was rebuilt at around 140k and timing belt broke because of my negligence at 263k. Has seen regular oil changes and other maintenance items and a new set struts. Recently has developed a transmission fluid leak that only starts above 60 mph. Maybe I will fix it and run to 400k.Bought it in 2005 with 110k.Has been my dd since.
I bought a 2004 Elantra brand new and I botched the first oil change. All the oil leaked out on the highway from the oil filter seal, but I caught it in time before driving too far. This car is still on the road with a second driver with 150k+ miles. During my ownership an oxygen sensor and an alternator was all it needed.
Just for you my friend I have a Hyundai Celica with the rare TRD package for $2,999. It’s got 70k miles and new seats. It’s the best car I’ve ever driven.
My 2008 hyundai sonata was. The only thing that went bad was one of the coils at 140k miles. I got the car used a few years old at ~40k miles. It was a rental car prior. Had it 10 years. All I ever did was the normal manufacturer recommended maintenance.
I like how you actually make certain years more clear than others to let people know what exactly to buy and stay away from. Some people on UA-cam don't give us enough information to explain their points and classify all cars as the same. I think someone named Scotty does that 🤔
The sonatas are really good cars too. the 09-10 sonatas with the lambda ii V6s are reliable as hell and surprisingly quick. I've absolutely embarrassed some SN95 mustangs and boosted econoboxes. Timing chain, non-interference design, decent gas mileage, cheap to buy and insure, and nobody looks at it at says "oh, I bet that thing's way faster than a mid-size family sedan has any reason to be."
Probably certain years. I've seen older ones with high mileage but horrible issues and looking like it's ready to fall apart when the same year elantra would look nothing like that aka mine
Owned three Hyundai’s over the tears. One of the first ones was a good cheap car until it had a major engine fail at 100,000 miles. May seem affordable until you finally realize that these cars will torture by just being uncomfortable for 5 to 10 years, then major issues. Road noise in my new Sonata rear seat was so loud, I would consider wearing ear plugs for health reasons for long freeway trips. New engine seemed like it was starting to rattle apart after only three years. Could not wait to give it back to the dealer after my three year lease...NEVER again. You would have to pay me a lot to force me to even ride in one regularly.
You must of had a lemon. Many elantras (I will never talk about a sonata) hit high mileage and even two hit a million miles. My 05 elantra is perfectly fine and is comfortable. And it's 15 year old hyundai and is perfectly fine still. Mines is at that mark and the engine is fine and you even hear him mention a older year with higher mileage
@Keith Ansell the only ones that are "junk" are made in america since the hyundai factory had a issue with making the engines. Mines is made in korea with the beta 2.0 bulletproof engine. If you know which hyundai you are getting then it's not a issue if your oblivious and just get any old hyundai then that is going to happen if you get a Honda or Toyota that had a bad year you will get problems too that literally goes for any brand
I had a 09 Elantra Touring Wagon. It was a really great car. The only problem I ever had was a couple of poor quality trim pieces; interior door handle chrome peeling off (this was covered under safety recall due to people slicing their hands!) and the black plastic roof channel trim peeling off. All other aspects of the car were phenomenal.
I would have like to hear about the most recent version....2.0 liter non gdi engine....i can't make my mind on these, otherwise i loved the video and would watch a lot of these, lots of info!
I like your Channel and content That being said I also like ETCG and SMA the Eric's and Scotty There is much to learn from many teachers I do appreciate your content
@cisa93 read the comment he says manual not CVT also there's nothing wrong with cvts my Nissan has been very reliable and it has a CVT still running strong as ever
I had a 2014 Elantra. I have really mixed views on it. I drove it cross-country several times and it never failed me. It was great on gas, easy to maneuver and park, and was surprisingly large on the inside. And it came with all the gizmos - Bluetooth, satellite radio, backup camera and all of it worked. But it was cheaply built. The suspension crashed on potholes. It had carbon buildup. No power going uphill. And while it had a lot of infotainment gizmos, everything was bargain basement. You could barely hear the radio or Bluetooth phone at highway speeds because road noise was so loud. The paint started going. Interior pieces felt flimsy. It was what it was - a cheap economy car.
Just bought a 17 Elantra Ultimate, glad to know it’s gonna be reliable down the road. Kinda boring to drive and the steering wheel is numb but as a commuter, can’t complain 👍🏼
I just bought a 2013 Elantra with ticking noise. I got 2 days left to my 30 days warranty . I sent the dealer I bought it from an email describing the ticking and what it may turn out to be today and that I would like it looked at. Then I called him. He said he is with a customer and will call me back in a half hour, a half hour ago. Thats why I sent an email thru his website describing the problem and I took screen shots for my proof that I contacted him before the thirty days is up. I hope that is enough to keep me in the warranty since I contacted him 2 days before. This is not gonna be fun. Thanks for Info
Ford focus manuals are cheap and reliable also well. You can find 2012's with low miles for like 4000 or less. They get like 30-40 mpg and have decent torque as well.
Not for long you would it Great looking car drives great 30,000 miles they have a great warranty I thought well they have unbelievable warranty the best on the market in fact a either a text so it be it’s a nightmare it drives great it just locked up of course Hyundai immediately came and picked it up do you not mess with my cub I was devastated I almost cried!
The short answer is no, long answer is maybe. Hyundai/KIA put an expensive but largely unnecessary maintenance called "valve clearance adjustment" at around 70K miles, most people skip it because it's very expensive (four digit territory), but guess what, they ain't gonna honor the 100K warranty if you don't do it. Here's the thing, most modern car engine doesn't need such adjustment even at 200K let along 70K miles and I doubt if Hyundai/KIA dealers actually do anything about the engine if you pay for the maintenance, It's really just an fordced extended warranty.
I knew someone with a Hyundai, they hated dealing with warranty repairs because the dealers had every excuse under the sun. It didn’t seem to be worth the paper it was on. I would not buy one.
I've heard Kia is more lenient with their warranty than Hyundai. Maybe that's just the Phoenix area dealers though although I also the buying process is a pain but once it's done you have a decent car. I bought a used Kia at a Nissan dealer so I can't really comment on Kia dealerships too much. I'd recommend finding the Kia equivalent of whatever Hyundai you are looking for and going with that, Kias in my opinion look better anyways.
I had a 2004 Elantra GT with a five speed for seven years. Bought it with 40k miles and so cheap I basically drove it for free for those seven years. I sold it four years ago and many daysI still miss it. That said, not quite as bulletproof as a Honda. I had to replace the radiator once; also lost a clutch master cylinder and a charcoal canister (a tough one to get diagnosed). The paint / sheet metal was not very durable. And yes, I did at least one routine timing belt; the rated service interval on the belt is 5/60k I believe. I still loved that car and I'd have no problem owning another Hyundai.
The most reliable car ive ever had, was also the only american car ive ever had, I worked for a limousine company that had a fleet of last generation lincoln town cars, we would drive those cars around the clock almost 24/7, across states, in traffic, on highways, do the cheapest oil changes at wash & lube places, cheapest gas we could find, and those cars were sold after hitting around 850,000 miles, with the original engine and transmission, so I bought 1 with 220,000 miles, from a different company, and drove it for uber/lyft, until it had 274,000 miles, and sold it because I decided to get a normal csr to commute, because the lincoln was super reliable, and super comfortable, but it has horrible fuel economy on local roads, but on the highway I was able to hit 26mpg, on local roads it was as bad as a v8 jeep, the 4.6l modular v8 I believe it was so reliable on those cars because the rev limiter kicks in at around 5500 rpms, but on the crown victorias specially the police package ones, its higher, giving it more performance, but at a cost of some reliability
Mind you, most of the cars ive owned, and still own are toyotas, hondas and acuras, ive had a 4cyl toyota celica 1.8 with bad transmission, 1997 celica 2.2 super reliable, 1995 4runner sr5 super neglected, just leaked oil from everywhere it was super solid, and reliable, the transmissions on those things are bullet proof, paid a mechanic to fix it, he scammed me, so I sold it, 1998 v6 honda accord with bad transmission, and a 1997 acura CL3.0 super reliable, 2001 acura TL 3.2 super reliable, now I have a 2009 corolla, super reliable so far, and a 2003 civic manual that was very neglected, and im in the process of restoring it, mechanically and cosmetically, I dont need 2 cars, just wanted to have a project, and save a stick shift civic from being junked, so I may sell either car when I finish the civic
Have you had any experience with the 2011 KIA Sorento with the 2.4 L 4 cylinder engine? I have one I bought with 100K miles and it now has 169 K with no problems so far. Just wondering if there are common problems with these cars?
Am Palestinian and I asked you where you from , cause you looks like my uncle .... I love ❤️ watching your Chanel brother I live in NC wish if you were living here I could take my car to your shop all the time
@@chrisfreemesser he is , I know California have a lot of Iranian peoples , in N.C. we do have a lot of Iranian peoples they are really cool people though ...and a lot of the in car business too
@Sea Gull LOL 😂 I been living in the us for almost 20 years now and still can’t say the P .... I bet you’re Arabic Cause we all have the P issue 🤣🤣🤣 I bet you 1k if any Arabic who born over seas can say it ... it always the B ...🤣
I really appreciate the fact that you recommend (and don't recommend) certain vehicles based on your personal experience as a mechanic and not on just simple "research" like so many others do.
This adds a lot of credibility to your channel.
Yea I agree, I can do my own research. I wanna hear someone with experience
Yup agreed. He's no badge snob.
Nice 👍 I still have my 2006 Elantra w/5 speed manual transmission and it’s been a reliable car. It’s my daily commuter and I do all the maintenance myself. The only issue I had around 175K miles was a bad front brake caliper. End up replacing both calipers and rotors along with a complete brake flush. 225K miles later, she still getting me from point A to Z 😁
I own a 2009 Hyundai Elantra. It has 275k miles, I put on 100k since I purchased it and its still going. Evap has gone bad recently. But other than that and other regular wear items it's been very reliable.
You really punish that car 😂😂😂
Pairing an interference engine with a timing belt should be made illegal...
WHY ? just maintain the car
@@claycoates5056 Well, even if you maintain the car and used only genuine manufacturer parts, those parts can sometimes be 'defective' and it may not be obvious - initially. If you put that brand new part on your car not knowing that it is defective and the part breaks, as in a timing belt, then what??? So, I agree with the comment from happystar1000.
Sea Gull they make interference engines because they’re more efficient. Get rid of emission regulations and manufacturers would be more open to making non-interference engines.
Agreed 1000000%
@happystar1000 tell that to my 2.5L 1984 Porsche 944 N/A M/T
The 5th gen Elantra was for the model years 2011-2016. The 6th gen Elantra, starting as a 2017 model, was offered to the North American market in January 2016. The main bearing issue in the 5th gen Elantra was supposedly an oil starvation issue caused by the use of aftermarket oil filters. If you have a 2011 or newer Elantra, always use Hyundai/Kia brand oil filters, or aftermarket oil filters that have the same design as the OEM oil filter.
I listen to this guy! I need to buy a commuter car and watch his videos for hidden gems. Continue spreading that knowledge you have a subscriber here!
What commuter car you have?
DrE38 08 matrix but will pass to daughter when she is able to drive next year.
I've had a Kia Spectra5 2007 (Basically an Elantra) it had 280k on the engine and transmission. I've maintained it regularly myself. I frikkin' loved it!!! But we moved to Europe... and now, my friend is using it as a backup car... Just WAOW!
I have a 2010 Elantra. Has 425,000 miles. I commute about 40 to 45K per year. Replace the timing belt every 100K.
I think this type of information is very helpful when someone like myself is looking for a cheap commuter car. I wish someone would start a spreadsheet with all makes/models of cars and which were the best/worst with details like this. Mechanics like this guy know this stuff off the top of their heads, I would just like to see them share all their knowledge. This is great.
I know someone who bought a 2nd gen Elentra with zero issues, bought it cheap and has had it for 10 yrs.
I have a 05 elantra which he said after 04 they got the continuous VVT which makes sense cause my engine can sometimes shoot up quick to high speed with hard acceleration and it's very reliable
100% on the money with this video!
170,000 miles on my 07 Elantra and virtually nothing has ever needed work outside of routine maintenance, which I’ve learned to do myself because it’s so simple. I think the only thing that’s ever gone bad was the O2 sensor, which took me all of 10 minutes to replace 🤣
I even let my friend use it for a 5,000 mile road trip because I trust it so much
I’ve actually done an amortized cost analysis of routine maintenance expenses for my car. Excluding purchase price, insurance, registration, and gas, the car has cost me roughly $30 per 1,000 miles. Ridiculously cheap and easy car to own
Your video makes me want to go out and buy a 2007-09 just to have something to tinker around with! Thanks!
I have a 2007 Elantra I bought in 2008 with 20K miles. The best car I have ever owned. Handles like a go cart, decent acceleration, and still gets 36mpg on highway trips. I bought mine Cert preowned and got 4 years of oil changes. After that I switched to Full Synthetic Mobile 1 oil and Mobile One extended filters and have had ZERO problems. I have replaced batteries a few times and tires/brakes. I did the timing belt and water pump at 100K miles and the belt was still in good shape but the water pump seemed worn. I replaced it with all OEM Hyundai parts and it cost $550 for a shop to do it including the parts. Everything still works except the passenger mirror light, every other button works like normal. My sunroof opens like it did back in 2008 and doesn't leak. I even added a tow hitch and can tow up to 1500 pounds. I tow a 4 x 8 trailer to take garbage to the county dump. I have mostly owned sports cars until I bought this and I miss my new Corvettes and Formulas and RX-7 and Viper but if I have to have just 1 car, the Elantra is a decent choice. ( I used to make great $ in the 90's but not anymore ) Mine still looks like a 3 or 4 year old car on the inside after 121,000 miles. These are actually really good cars.
what about the MPG in city (landstill traffic)?
@@hansselabreu649 I normally get 30-31 MPG around town, 35-36 on highway trips. I get up to speed fast, and set the cruise when I can, usually for 5 over the limit. I don't sit in traffic long, I am not in a huge city. 2007 was a new model, I would not own a 2006 or older, they had problems.
I run the AC all thru the summer here in South Carolina as it gets 100+ from May to Sept.
Comprehensive and straight to the point! Thank you for such videos that are so rare on this overmarketing nowadays tube! I'm looking forward to lore about reliable Italian cars! There's almost no information about it if any! But I'm mad about them and want to buy any solid example! Cheers!
Speaking of reliable cars, my Wife purchased a brand new VW New Beetle GLS in June 2004. We still own this car and it has 94,000 original miles on it. We have maintained all required maintenance to include replacement of timing belt, serpentine belt, water pump and pulleys, A/T fluid and filter, and a couple of batteries. Many previous Beetle owner's complained of their cars. However, this car has been a really good car. It has never left us stranded. My wife bought a new 2018 Subaru Forester Premium in October 2017. However, we decided to keep the Beetle because it ran perfectly. Also, I did replace the shocks and struts with new Bilstein products. The ride is much improved.
I have a 2010 one. Has over 100K and aside from a few small things here and there it’s been reliable. Biggest thing I’ve needed so far was a new alternator.
“Not that Korea, this Korea”- 😂😂😂😂 that was fantastic. Nice 👍
I gave this video a thumbs up as soon as I saw that. Got a good chuckle out of it.
That was muy hilario chief!!! Not that Korea, this Korea 😁😁😆
@@schmingusss moiio
I love my Hyundai Elantra. Got a 2013 silver... its been pretty reliable i maintain it regularly
That model year reached a million miles before same for an 08
This man speaks the truth. I had a 2007 Kia Rio (same bones) that I picked up for 500 bucks with 168000 miles. With some charging system upgrades (new battery & batt. cables, new alternator), emissions components upgrades (evap canister purge valve/solenoid--replacing it made the check engine light go away and not come back), and one passenger side ball joint...sounds like a lot, but the cost of these parts were kept only at parts prices because with the help of videos like these, I did all the labor myself! The power steering went out, one day I lost all my fluid and any fluid I tried to put back in would end up on the street. But the car is so light, power steering was not needed.
The previous owner had a new clutch installed in January of 2018, approx. 6 months before I bought it, so that is probably going to outlast the car's life as a whole! Speaking of a clutch, the added benefit of a manual transmission will only make it last longer.
Sadly, after 2 years of ownership, I needed more room to haul my kids and all my gear around, so I sold it for 800 bucks at 199000 miles, just a couple weeks ago. So I didnt own it for long, but I was damn impressed--Hyundai/Kia were not known for quality & longevity but ya gotta respect how much they've improved. The new owner (friend of mine) has tipped the odometer well over 200k and said his only complaint is the lack of power steering. 😆
Long read, thank you for staying with me if you got this far. And thank you @ratchetsandwrenches for your help.
Glad to see you back and posting videos regularly.
2004 Hunday accent 👌
-can drive 6 hour strait with a full tank
-ac super cold
-low maintenance
Oil and sparkplug change on time and it will run for ever.
Mine survive to crashes and drove that gem until the speedometer stopped working, sold it for 200 bucks and dude still drives the car.
My mom has a 2009 Elantra,
It is a very good car.
Enjoyed the content, very educational. Inspiring to people who don’t know jack about automotive repair.
Hey also the 5spd accent from 2002, had one that lasted for over 200,000 miles, just routine maintence and one clutch replacement, that and 40 mpg all day long, great lil car, sometimes I miss her but then I remember how lil hrsprs she had and then the tears go away, 😄
My sister he had a gen 4 Elantra. Great car until it was wrecked in an accident. Did the a water pump and timing belt before we took a road trip to deliver it to her. She still wishes that she still had that car to this day.
I have an Hyundai Accent, 2008. I bought it with 113,000 miles. It's now got 123,000 and the engine is shot. Either head gasket or burned valve or shot rings... I've had it about 9 months...
My previous car was a 2003 Accent, and I drove it from 150,000 to 317,000 miles!
You got Scotty Kilmer all riled up. Awesome job!
I did?
As always, a very informative video. I bought a 1999 Hyundai Elantra GS new. I recently sold the car with almost 300,000 miles and it was still running. In 2005, I bought a new Hyundai Elantra GT and I still have it today with near 215,000. Both cars were and are very reliable for me. I have maintained them over the years and replaced essential parts before they wore out which I credit for the longevity. To sum it up, I have certainly gotten my money's worth out of these vehicles and I have nothing but good things to say about Hyundai. Like all vehicles, there are good ones and bad ones, but I believe maintenance and care dictates the life of the vehicle!
Are hyundai sonatas reliable?
On a related note, 3rd generation Hyundai Accents are pretty darn reliable as well.
I have a 2008 with over 210,000 miles on it, still gets 30+ mpg.
GREAT VIDEO!
I had a 2010, the transmission gave up at 60K, 3rd gear started slipping at 50K and became undrivable 10K later.
Trans fluid service is important, suprised it even went that far
@@Ownsterx I serviced the fluid every 30K. The transmission shop that looked at it said there was a problem that year with the quality of the clutch packs and they tried to move the engagement point for third gear to a lower RPM and account for it by engaging the clutches slightly less aggressively. But the result of those things together was that the third gear clutches wore prematurely. He said every one he saw without exception was failure of the third gear clutch pack.
@@nvo5307 ownster owning up to be a dooshbag. I love how ppl hop on the internet like they know the other person and what they're doing with their stuff. Miserable fucks
So, did you get the transmission covered under 10yr power plant warranty?
@@Joseph-eh4rs I was the second owner so my warranty was reduced to 5 yr/60K. My local dealership was absolutely no help and came up with every excuse in the book not to have to fix it. And since it was just over 60K when it finally actually went from slipping to not shifting they claimed it was out of warranty anyway.
Good one, lad. Hyundai Elantra's are great to have, even fully restored to showroom like condition for expert Hyundai mechanics and car restorators.
Hey, I own a KIA7 kia spectra(soul sister of Elantra). And I'm cheap so never replace until it's broken. I have 207K miles on my car and everything works except the drivers seat occupancy sensor. Shit I'm over with this car but it still keeps going. But just one suggestion always maintain your car 4,500 mile E-oil change; 40,000 mile Steering and Trans fluid change; 100K mile coolant and brake fluid flush. That's all I did.
initially they were rubbish but they've vastly improved, still can be a real pain just for a clutch swap, gearbox change or engine removal
@ i suppose but atleast with some you dont have to drop the entire assembly from underneath, as years have progressed it got worse with some better with others.
Some rave on Toyota but if you had a new 08 Highlander with the known cvvt issue, you'd be disappointed to find three stealerships refuse to fix it under warranty. $6K. We bought a new 13 Sonata, surprisingly quick, no problems at all we had to fix and dealers stood by all recalls. We love it. All cars have some issues. It's how they are handled that matters.
Thanks Buddy and all the best from Australia. Good Channel!
Hey hey hey how’s it going ratchets and wrenches
I've owned 2 elantras before, a 2016 Elantra GT which was a bullet proof car until the clutch grenaded.... And now, I own a 2019 Elantra GT N-LINE with a 1.6t engine, this car is amazing... I haven't driven anything better.
I like those a lot, but I am 6'3" tall. I don't think I would fit very well.
I like Kia/Hyundai. I work on a lot of them and they all have high miles even newer ones, especially the Sorentos. Usually $180k+ miles. 😎👍🏻👍🏻
What about the genesis v8s?
These Hyundais can be a pleasant surprise. 2009 Genesis here with 287k miles, much of it severe rideshare duty, and only one major repair. I don’t think I’m replacing my car anytime soon if ever.
When I met my wife she had an Elantra just like at 1:14 in this video. I drove it once and refused to ever drive it again or be a passenger. You had to continually adjust the steering just to keep it in the lane. If would overheat and the automatic transmission repeatedly failed. When we traded it in with 70,000 miles it was worth less than what she still owed, only $400. It was unsafe garbage, maybe the worst car I ever drove in. That permanently scared me from buying Hyundai cars.
Here in Yemen two makes are dominating the roads, Toyota and Hyundai/Kia.
Most of them are imported used from the US, Canada, KSA and UAE
When I was young there were Toyotas only, you rarely see another make, but when the economy fell down people started looking for cheaper cars, and nothing is cheap and reliable more than a used Hyundai, when 2007 Corolla was 10k$, 2007 Elantra was 7k$ only and maybe less with more features like sunroof and back camera, now there are lots of used japanese cars that were converted to LHD that are cheaper and they are Toyotas, so I bought one, a 2006 Toyota Noah, basically a more boxy Sienna with a 2.0 I4
Since the 4th gen, the police in my country started using them and they have been very reliable and can handle a lot of abuse, although we got a smaller 1.6l engine. The Accent is also very popular as a taxi and they are also extremely reliable cars.
Really? Wena
Are you in Korea?
These are some of my favorite videos . I hope you keep doing these .
I currently drive an elantra from 2015, with zero faults. I absolutely love it. Sadly I'm going to sell it because its my fathers (he owns it but i drive it) and wants to buy me a new car.
I had the 2007 Kia Spectra version of this Hyundai Elantra. At 4.5 years the transmission had to be replaced, fortunately under warranty. My mechanic had a 2007
Elantra and its transmission had to be replaced also.
Hyundai are very common around here, taxi drivers abuse them all the time and they seem to hold fine, parts are cheap and available everywhere.
I have the 2017 Elantra since brand new and so far it's been great for the past three years!
In Iraq we call Ellantra 2009 the sacred because it is very good
Love your new videos. Some vehicals may be super cheap or reliable but maybe they have serious rust issues. Any chance we could get a video about cars that are rust proof and that rust away fast.
Glad to see you back. Can you make a video on drive shaft balancing?
I've had 2 Camry's a Chevy Sprint in the 80s and a Honda CRX. All super reliable. The Chevy got amazing gas mileage. Over 50 mpg. I drove days on empty.
So far, so good with my 2011 Hyundai Elantra Touring GLS with a 2.0l engine - reliable, good on gas, lots of cargo space, decent performance. Great A to B transportation!
$4,000 USD for a 2009 Hyundai with 130,000 miles?
I can find that same car in Toronto Canada for half the price.
California must be a very expensive place to live.
It is .
As every communist state.
@@MntRprznt yeah just like the entire USA. Big bailouts for the corporations and nothing for the working people USA is 3rd world country they don't know it yet
Despise social welfare but getting
Help by the federal reserve that's hypocritical of corporations and banks.
Thats private list price too, pretty much anywhere in the country. Imagine a used car dealer price 🤡
California is one of the most expensive states to live in the US. Hawaii, New York and Massachusetts are expensive also.
Recently bought a ‘09 Kia Spectra5. Nice to hear your comments on this power train. Mine has the hydraulic power steering, not electric. I don’t know if that’s a Canada only thing or if the internet is wonky on this. Anyway, replaced timing belt, flushed cooling system, highest grade fluid changes everywhere and now looking for lots of trouble free kms. Nice little car with lots of zip. I unsubscribed Scotty Kilmer who calls it the worst car ever. Appreciate your informative style without the rant, hype and over-generalizations.
i own an 06 elantra that i like. i did the timing belt in my driveway. i watched your video on it which was super. best regards.
Man, the part time avocado farmer came back to UA-cam with a vengeance! Love the more frequent videos. ❤️❤️❤️
I had an 04 Elentra and it was a good car but it eventually blew the head gasket and I remember the radiator would leak at the seams. I used that stop leak stuff which worked for a while till I just replace the plastic radiator. Then the head gasket blew and then I got a honda
So well summarized. I like this type of second car reviews. Keep going :)
Hi there I own a 2000 Elanta with 320k miles . Transmission was rebuilt at around 140k and timing belt broke because of my negligence at 263k. Has seen regular oil changes and other maintenance items and a new set struts. Recently has developed a transmission fluid leak that only starts above 60 mph. Maybe I will fix it and run to 400k.Bought it in 2005 with 110k.Has been my dd since.
Great video. Your advice is solid and clear. I’ve been watching you for some time and hope to keep listening at your recommendations. Keep up!
Just you and OG Scotty. I'm all set.
I bought a 2004 Elantra brand new and I botched the first oil change. All the oil leaked out on the highway from the oil filter seal, but I caught it in time before driving too far. This car is still on the road with a second driver with 150k+ miles. During my ownership an oxygen sensor and an alternator was all it needed.
Does Hyundai have any celicas ? ..
No celica no reliability ..
Just for you my friend I have a Hyundai Celica with the rare TRD package for $2,999. It’s got 70k miles and new seats. It’s the best car I’ve ever driven.
Mark M classic lol
Sort of, they had the Coupe wich shared the engine with the Elantra and Sonata
My 2008 hyundai sonata was. The only thing that went bad was one of the coils at 140k miles. I got the car used a few years old at ~40k miles. It was a rental car prior. Had it 10 years. All I ever did was the normal manufacturer recommended maintenance.
👍 Real Mechanics advise.
Base on thrue facts and experience...
And real how to instructional vids...
Really good channel
I like how you actually make certain years more clear than others to let people know what exactly to buy and stay away from. Some people on UA-cam don't give us enough information to explain their points and classify all cars as the same. I think someone named Scotty does that 🤔
The sonatas are really good cars too. the 09-10 sonatas with the lambda ii V6s are reliable as hell and surprisingly quick. I've absolutely embarrassed some SN95 mustangs and boosted econoboxes. Timing chain, non-interference design, decent gas mileage, cheap to buy and insure, and nobody looks at it at says "oh, I bet that thing's way faster than a mid-size family sedan has any reason to be."
Considering machine to machine potential You absolutely embarrassed the operator for sure.
Probably certain years. I've seen older ones with high mileage but horrible issues and looking like it's ready to fall apart when the same year elantra would look nothing like that aka mine
Owned three Hyundai’s over the tears. One of the first ones was a good cheap car until it had a major engine fail at 100,000 miles. May seem affordable until you finally realize that these cars will torture by just being uncomfortable for 5 to 10 years, then major issues. Road noise in my new Sonata rear seat was so loud, I would consider wearing ear plugs for health reasons for long freeway trips. New engine seemed like it was starting to rattle apart after only three years. Could not wait to give it back to the dealer after my three year lease...NEVER again. You would have to pay me a lot to force me to even ride in one regularly.
You must of had a lemon. Many elantras (I will never talk about a sonata) hit high mileage and even two hit a million miles. My 05 elantra is perfectly fine and is comfortable. And it's 15 year old hyundai and is perfectly fine still. Mines is at that mark and the engine is fine and you even hear him mention a older year with higher mileage
@Keith Ansell the only ones that are "junk" are made in america since the hyundai factory had a issue with making the engines. Mines is made in korea with the beta 2.0 bulletproof engine. If you know which hyundai you are getting then it's not a issue if your oblivious and just get any old hyundai then that is going to happen if you get a Honda or Toyota that had a bad year you will get problems too that literally goes for any brand
I had a 09 Elantra Touring Wagon. It was a really great car. The only problem I ever had was a couple of poor quality trim pieces; interior door handle chrome peeling off (this was covered under safety recall due to people slicing their hands!) and the black plastic roof channel trim peeling off. All other aspects of the car were phenomenal.
I have a 1994 Toyota Terxel 4 speed manual. 41mpg most reliable car ive had. Was supposed to be my weekend classic ...is now my everyday go to
My first car was a 2001 Hyundai accent. It had 140000 miles or so and it was a great little car until the police took it.
I would have like to hear about the most recent version....2.0 liter non gdi engine....i can't make my mind on these, otherwise i loved the video and would watch a lot of these, lots of info!
I like your Channel and content
That being said I also like ETCG and SMA the Eric's and Scotty
There is much to learn from many teachers
I do appreciate your content
Manual Versa and Sentras are also underated reliable cars. No timing belt eithe6
@cisa93 read the comment he says manual not CVT also there's nothing wrong with cvts my Nissan has been very reliable and it has a CVT still running strong as ever
again, thank you! these videos ROCK!!!
I'm onboard with you buddy just bought an 08 grand prix,series 3
I had a 2014 Elantra. I have really mixed views on it. I drove it cross-country several times and it never failed me.
It was great on gas, easy to maneuver and park, and was surprisingly large on the inside. And it came with all the gizmos - Bluetooth, satellite radio, backup camera and all of it worked.
But it was cheaply built. The suspension crashed on potholes. It had carbon buildup. No power going uphill. And while it had a lot of infotainment gizmos, everything was bargain basement. You could barely hear the radio or Bluetooth phone at highway speeds because road noise was so loud. The paint started going. Interior pieces felt flimsy.
It was what it was - a cheap economy car.
Just bought a 17 Elantra Ultimate, glad to know it’s gonna be reliable down the road. Kinda boring to drive and the steering wheel is numb but as a commuter, can’t complain 👍🏼
I just bought a 2013 Elantra with ticking noise. I got 2 days left to my 30 days warranty .
I sent the dealer I bought it from an email describing the ticking and what it may turn out to be today and that I would like it looked at. Then I called him. He said he is with a customer and will call me back in a half hour, a half hour ago. Thats why I sent an email thru his website describing the problem and I took screen shots for my proof that I contacted him before the thirty days is up. I hope that is enough to keep me in the warranty since I contacted him 2 days before. This is not gonna be fun. Thanks for Info
Great video on the Hyundai, I have a friend who owns a 2010, she hates it and would like to purchase a Toyota Corolla
As always very informative video keep up the great work keep the videos coming
I have a 2011 elantra, 106K miles. No ticking noise, yet. Anything I can do? How much time do I have left on the vehicle.
Ford focus manuals are cheap and reliable also well. You can find 2012's with low miles for like 4000 or less. They get like 30-40 mpg and have decent torque as well.
Thanks for the informative videos. You're right, how good most cars are is how good they are looked after. Cheers ..stay safe
Thanks 👍
Good video. What do you think of newer models 2017-2019? I see lots of these on the road.
Not for long you would it Great looking car drives great 30,000 miles they have a great warranty I thought well they have unbelievable warranty the best on the market in fact a either a text so it be it’s a nightmare it drives great it just locked up of course Hyundai immediately came and picked it up do you not mess with my cub I was devastated I almost cried!
most those Hyundai’s were advertised to come with a 10 year warranty ... did the mfg stand behind that warranty ??.
Sometimes the dealer will give you a run around and give you some excuse not to honor it.
The short answer is no, long answer is maybe.
Hyundai/KIA put an expensive but largely unnecessary maintenance called "valve clearance adjustment" at around 70K miles, most people skip it because it's very expensive (four digit territory), but guess what, they ain't gonna honor the 100K warranty if you don't do it. Here's the thing, most modern car engine doesn't need such adjustment even at 200K let along 70K miles and I doubt if Hyundai/KIA dealers actually do anything about the engine if you pay for the maintenance, It's really just an fordced extended warranty.
I knew someone with a Hyundai, they hated dealing with warranty repairs because the dealers had every excuse under the sun.
It didn’t seem to be worth the paper it was on. I would not buy one.
No they don’t. That’s the problem with Kia and Hyundai.
I've heard Kia is more lenient with their warranty than Hyundai. Maybe that's just the Phoenix area dealers though although I also the buying process is a pain but once it's done you have a decent car. I bought a used Kia at a Nissan dealer so I can't really comment on Kia dealerships too much. I'd recommend finding the Kia equivalent of whatever Hyundai you are looking for and going with that, Kias in my opinion look better anyways.
My 05 Elantra had the following problems clutch went out at 85k. Oil leaking from crank seal, oil pan, valve cover, and cv joint went out
I own a 2012 Civic
130,000 miles
$410 Canadian for total repairs
$160 for belt tensioner
$250 for wheel bearing
I have an 08 elantra seems like a good car, but damn, the seat is super uncomfortable on long trips
I had a 2004 Elantra GT with a five speed for seven years. Bought it with 40k miles and so cheap I basically drove it for free for those seven years. I sold it four years ago and many daysI still miss it. That said, not quite as bulletproof as a Honda. I had to replace the radiator once; also lost a clutch master cylinder and a charcoal canister (a tough one to get diagnosed). The paint / sheet metal was not very durable. And yes, I did at least one routine timing belt; the rated service interval on the belt is 5/60k I believe. I still loved that car and I'd have no problem owning another Hyundai.
The most reliable car ive ever had, was also the only american car ive ever had, I worked for a limousine company that had a fleet of last generation lincoln town cars, we would drive those cars around the clock almost 24/7, across states, in traffic, on highways, do the cheapest oil changes at wash & lube places, cheapest gas we could find, and those cars were sold after hitting around 850,000 miles, with the original engine and transmission, so I bought 1 with 220,000 miles, from a different company, and drove it for uber/lyft, until it had 274,000 miles, and sold it because I decided to get a normal csr to commute, because the lincoln was super reliable, and super comfortable, but it has horrible fuel economy on local roads, but on the highway I was able to hit 26mpg, on local roads it was as bad as a v8 jeep, the 4.6l modular v8 I believe it was so reliable on those cars because the rev limiter kicks in at around 5500 rpms, but on the crown victorias specially the police package ones, its higher, giving it more performance, but at a cost of some reliability
Mind you, most of the cars ive owned, and still own are toyotas, hondas and acuras, ive had a 4cyl toyota celica 1.8 with bad transmission, 1997 celica 2.2 super reliable, 1995 4runner sr5 super neglected, just leaked oil from everywhere it was super solid, and reliable, the transmissions on those things are bullet proof, paid a mechanic to fix it, he scammed me, so I sold it, 1998 v6 honda accord with bad transmission, and a 1997 acura CL3.0 super reliable, 2001 acura TL 3.2 super reliable, now I have a 2009 corolla, super reliable so far, and a 2003 civic manual that was very neglected, and im in the process of restoring it, mechanically and cosmetically, I dont need 2 cars, just wanted to have a project, and save a stick shift civic from being junked, so I may sell either car when I finish the civic
Panther platforms probably the best made ever.
Got a 2007 chevy exspress van awd. 557675 no trouble yet.
*RnW uploads*
me: fastest like in the west
Have you had any experience with the 2011 KIA Sorento with the 2.4 L 4 cylinder engine? I have one I bought with 100K miles and it now has 169 K with no problems so far. Just wondering if there are common problems with these cars?
I have Hyundai Elantra 2015 220,000 miles on it no problem and still going strong
Normal wear and tear
Thanks for the info, very helpful.
Love the detail 👌
What about the last couple of years? new ones?
Great! Info. Keep it coiming
Am Palestinian and I asked you where you from , cause you looks like my uncle ....
I love ❤️ watching your Chanel brother
I live in NC wish if you were living here I could take my car to your shop all the time
I *think* at one point in the distant past he mentioned he was of Iranian heritage
@@chrisfreemesser he is , I know California have a lot of Iranian peoples , in N.C. we do have a lot of Iranian peoples they are really cool people though ...and a lot of the in car business too
I am*
@Sea Gull LOL 😂
I been living in the us for almost 20 years now and still can’t say the P .... I bet you’re Arabic
Cause we all have the P issue 🤣🤣🤣
I bet you 1k if any Arabic who born over seas can say it ... it always the B ...🤣
@Sea Gull There is a P in Greek though, as they have given the name. The word comes from the ancient Philistines.
so which one of these models came with the optional spontaneous combustion package?