5.1 Surround Sound editing in Adobe Premiere Pro
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- Опубліковано 28 січ 2017
- UPDATE: Adobe has not renewed their Dolby license so as a result, any Dolby export functionality will not be available in any version of Premiere Pro CC, Audition CC or Media Encoder CC.
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This tutorial takes you through the process of creating and working with 5.1 files including making Sequence settings. Also covered is automating surround sound panning and isolating LFE in a 5.1 Sequence.
This is a link to an H.264 5.1 surround sound test file:
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Those tutorials are a crazy amount of work. Thanks a lot for all this great stuff! Keep on doing!
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Thank you so much for this!! Between a couple of your videos on surround sound you saved me from having to go back to the post house and pay them a bunch of money to conform the surround to a couple small edits I had made to my movie. You are a life saver.
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I've been searching for this tutorial for two days. Thank you Colin. Not the first time you've saved my life. I've been trying to export a feature film to go to a QC company for distribution, and they want a 4444 with 8 mono audio tracks: L R C LFE Ls Rs LT RT. From what i understand this is a standard way to deliver features these days. Premiere makes it literally impossible to figure out.The channel output assignments being ganged as 1&2, 3&4 etc leads to not 8 discreet tracks as they are in the sequence, but four pairs of stereo tracks (if you don't pan). My test clips kept failing QC because I hadn't intuited that I needed to pan all tracks (including C) left and right in the sequence setup,which is completely counter intuitive. I have a feeling that will solve the problem. THANK YOU!
This is really helpful, I have a mix in separated mono tracks and this makes the process of render a master really easy, thanks!
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Thanks for the video, it's cristal clear and going to be very usefull for me! Just a note, as i'm working on my audio surround RN i've got my surround system plugged in my pc, and this video actually comes out in surround!
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I have 2 separate 5.1 systems One TV (HDMI) the other USB and both let me here the separate speakers in this video on U-Tube. Amazing.
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When I create a sequence with 5.1 it gives me one audio track that is 5.1, how do I get the other tracks under it that are for the specific speakers like in the tutorial?
You saved my bacon! I used this technique to create an 8 channel output. 5.1 plus Lt/Rt on channels 7 and 8. Thanks, and Subscribed!
Whoa, that's great that you were able to do that. Thanks for your support.
Hey Sam, how'd you go about doing the Lt/Rt? I'm struggling with how to achieve that. Are those two Stereo Tracks panned left and right?
Fantastic tutorial thank you so much!
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if you allow me to give you some feedback: you have produced so many things and they are mixed up in the feed, I think: maybe it would be useful to create a difficulty level rate from 1 to 5, so who is beginner can quickly identify what they need [1 -2 ] and more advanced users can skip to level 3 4 5
I appreciate the feedback but many times I've had a professional tell me they learned something from a tutorial that I was sure was for newbies.
I know what you're saying but there is value in watching all my tutorials, even if there is something more advanced. For new users, it's a road map to where they should be looking to advance their skills.
At 15:35 you pan left then right....and then left and right again....and then left and right again. Isnt that middle left to right sending all of your center audio to the left and your LFE to the right? Shouldn't you leave channels 3 and 4 center?
thank you so much sir for your tutorial
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Hi, Colin. Great tutorial. In the description of the video above, you provide a DropBox link to your finished "Surround_Test.mp4" file, which is super useful. That particular output file uses Dolby 5.1. When I import that file into the current version of Premiere Pro (v24.0.0), the audio comes in as 6 mono tracks. By any chance, do you have a version of "Surround_Test.mp4" that is exported with one of the other 5.1 formats that is currently supported by Adobe, so that the file imports as a 5.1 audio track? That would be useful to me. Many thanks!
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sir i got 5.1 steam (6 ch) from sound department...what settings i should choose?
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Thanks a lot Colin. This video was very helpful. But I have a question. Towards the end around 17:38 you show the track A8 having a plus button which is then used to get the panned sequence . I don't see any such track when in my project when I follow what you've said. Any help on that?
You'll only see that when the clip you're adding has more tracks than the Sequence.
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How to rendering wrap to dcp with 5.1...
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Thank you for this tutorial - however i was wondering if I could get some help: I have followed your steps and made a new 5.1 sequence. But when dropping in my audio file new tracks are created that do not show the 5.1 yet can be adjusted with the track mixer...
Anyone who knows how to solve this? Do I need to change the audio files?
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How to rendering wrap to dcp for 5.1...
So I have 6 channel audio from a concert, the actual concert is in dolby digital and dts 5.1 channel, when I convert them to 6 wave files to listen to them separately into audacity, the stereo files have sound and work perfectly, but the mono tracks, the center channel, Sl, Sr channel don't have any audio is there a problem with the file or my audio system?
I am not familiar with Audacity so I don't know if it's working correctly or not.
@@VideoRevealed I've tried it on on every software not just audacity, it seems to be the 3 mono channels the center, sl, and sr channels that are not working.
Thanks a Lot Sir
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Hello I have a realy realy important questions about the 5.1 keys and hope you can help me because I freak out since days. For example :I have a 2 min 5.1 story sequence, center keys, front keys ect but not I want to cut from the 2 minutes 10 secunds out and put the footage together all 5.1 keys dont move with the footage. All keys are at the same position. But I want to move all footage, audio (5.1 keys ect) any helps?
Track keyframes are not locked to the footage and need to be manually selected and moved by hand. Sorry, there's no other way.
@@VideoRevealed so you can't editing the video after placing track keyfrems without changing all the keyframes? Really bad
Hello Sir. I'm working on a small project with a 5.1 video and i need only the SFX from it but i don't know how to isolate them properly. Little bits of the SFX mixes in the other channels and a bit of dialogue is present as well. I made a post on Adobe's Support Community about the issue i'm having and someone replied that i can't rip the SFX from a 5.1 mix alone, thus needing a SFX stem to be able to isolate them completely from the mix but i don't have access to that stem. I'm new to Premiere Pro and i don't know how 5.1 audio mixing work so if you can help me solve this or if there is a good workaround, it will make my day. Thanks in advance!
If I understand you correctly, you're asking for the ability to take an already mixed audio file and separate the parts? I don't know of any software that will do that. Sorry.
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Mr. Smith, thank you for all of your great tutorials! I have a really dumb question as newbie to 5.1 mixing in Premiere (I have cc 2019). I have an M-Audio interface to which I have my two studio monitors attached. Here's the dumb question. Can I use 5.1 surround headphones and hear the 5.1 mix simply by plugging the headphones into the headphone jack on my audio interface? Does 5.1 decode through standard 1/4" output to a device (i.e., headphones) that can decode a 5.1 file? Thanks so much for your time!
Headphones are stereo only, so no 5.1. You need 6 separate outputs from your interface and 6 separate speakers to be able to monitor 5.1 sound.
I have a question, can i turn my 5.1 audio to normal audio?
i dont really need 5.1 audio and it just gives me problems, and i dont know how to deactivate this option
No, as I show in this tutorial, once you choose 5.1 as your Master Audio, you can't change it. You can create a new Stereo Master Sequence, then copy and paste all the tracks from the 5.1 Sequence.
Another LFE work around; Edit > Edit in Adobe Audition > Sequence... Once your project is in Audition, open the track panner panel. There is an "LFE Only" button that will isolate the LFE. Make sure to turn up the LFE percentage on the bottom slider or you won't hear anything. I know this is a Premiere Pro tutorial but I hope that helps.
Sounds interesting.
Hello. What I want to do is this: I want to get a stereo output in a channel with 5.1 surround. So that both 5.1 and stereo alternatives are available for the same sound file. For example, the person who has a 5.1 sound system at home should be able to activate this option and use it. 5.1 sound system should be able to activate the stereo sound in the same file and continue. I don't know how to do this, it is not found in any healthy source.
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Thank you for this video! so now without the dolby license, it is not recommended to export a dcp file 5.1 from the latest version of premiere?
I suggest using another DCP solution; there are several out there but I'm not familiar with them.
Hey Colin where would the dialogue go in a film scenario where more than 1 person is speaking and I'm trying to checkerboard the tracks. Do I need to create 2 center tracks for 5.1 mix?
5.1 panning is just another setting for any track. So yes, create as many dialog tracks as you need and pan them accordingly.
@@VideoRevealed Hi, I have a similar question. I am working with a 5.1 mix and in editing the video have ended up with multiple overlaying 5.1 tracks - How do I export this video as a single 5.1? What exactly do you mean by pan them accordingly?
I use CyberLink PowerDirector and had problems with 5.1 Audio when editing 4K 60fps videos. I notice that you use 30 fps - can you use 4K 60 fps in Adobe?
Yes, Premiere Pro can create 4k Sequences with almost any frame rate.
hi, thanks for this helpful video. I was wondering if it would be possible for me to mix in 5.1 (and hear in. 5.1) using Sonos speakers. thanks again!
You'd need 6 separate Sonos speakers plus an interface from the computer that offers 6 separate outputs. It's actually cheaper to buy a 5.1 receiver and speakers.
Thank you
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Hi, so I edited a track on audition, 8d audio track, when I export the video , the audio do not export the audio with 8d sound, it is stereo, I tried to change on the composition, on the audio tab, but do not work. is that way to make it work? when I export the video
I asked a computer audio engineer what 8D is and he said it's not a real thing.
Hi, I noticed that once I put the various keyframes on the audio clip, if I move it on the timeline, the key frames that I put remain on the same position of the timeline, they are not moved together with the clip. the key frames of the volume yes, but those of the plugins not .. why? thank you
Track keyframes do not move with the clips. Clip keyframes move with the clips but you can't use them for 5.1.
You have to manually select the keyframes and move them yourself. Use the Pen tool to select multiple keyframes by dragging around them.
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Hey Colin. Thank you so much for this super informative and helpful video. I'm showing a short video in my local cinema next week Friday, and I'm playing with the thought of making a 5.1 mix instead of showing only Stereo. I have a couple of "audio swells", lower-end frequency sounds just like you hear in big blockbuster films. Are those sounds only meant to be played on the LFE, you think? Or would I be well off, playing them from lets's say the 3rd Ch, center?
If the low drone-like humming sounds can only be truly felt by placing them in the LFE, should I go for your second option shown in the vid? (making a 6 Ch master, then throwing the nested seq into the 5.1 track). Tusen takk, muchos gracias, enkosi kakhulu - that's Thank You's in Norwegian, Spanish and Xhosa!! Hope it'll persuade you into answering my question : ) and THANKS!
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@@VideoRevealed Could you put the gist of your answer as a reply so it's visible to the public? I'm learning a ton and would love to know the answer to his question :)
wanted to ask you why do I have "MIX" In Audio track mixer in every track instead of "MASTER" ?
Well, I think the term "master" has been deemed culturally insensitive these days so it's being replaced. Master bedrooms are now Primary bedrooms.
Thanks for the great video! Wondering if you can make any suggestions on some good, compatible audio interfaces for Premiere Pro?
Adobe says "any audio hardware with frequency above 44000 Khz are accepted in Premiere Pro," but I see often in the forums that not audio interfaces work well (i.e. some get locked by PP)
Premiere Pro uses the drivers that are installed by the audio interface and the operating system. If you can see the interface in the operating system, then Premiere Pro will see it too.
If you want my recommendation then I'd say use anything from Steinberg, Focusrite, MOTU, and stay away from Behringer or M-Audio.
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great video, thank you ! do you have a recommendation for a audio hardware to monitor my Pr surround sequence, i have active speakers (i don't want to go in a amplifier), thanks !
Sorry, I don't have any recommendations for hardware. Anything with multiple outputs will work. Most professional audio interfaces have 1/4" or XLR outputs that do not carry power so they plug right into active speakers.
Cheap recommendations would be a surround sound system, or home cinema system. I monitor using the _Sony BDV-E2100_ system as it has great sound for its pricerange. Please note that it only has 5.1 input through its Toslink connection. But I assume there are plenty options out there that do support better systems.
I think a system you plug in to your computer using USB would be the best for you, but I don't have a specific product to recommend you yet. However do get in touch with me if you want to look into a good system in your price range!
i’m still confused. does the audio file have to already be 5.1 or can you make a normal audio file into 5.1 using this method?
Audio files could be mono or stereo. Then you put them in the tracks and you assign the tracks exit like L, R, C, LFE, etc.
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can u show the same in sony vegas
how to do 5.1
I have never used Sony Vegas. Sorry.
Great! What if I have a single 5.1 audio file? How do I break it down in Premiere to 6 mono channels so that I can pan each one to my taste? Thanks!
Select the 5.1 file in the Project panel, and in the Clip menu, choose Audio> Break Out To Mono.
@@VideoRevealed Thank you very much! And what are the exact settings for exporting mixed 5.1 audio file only, using Premiere CC 2017? Thank you!
Since premiere pro doesnt support dolby anymore can you create a tutorial on how to use dolby's conversion tool? Im trying to separate music from clips that involve music, so if you know how to do that without using 5.1 in premiere than I guess that would also be super helpful.
Sorry, I'm not familiar with, and don't own any Dolby software.
I don't see 6 channels only 2. Followed instructions in this video to the letter. It must be something I'm doing wrong. Is there a setting I should be aware of?
You're most likely not adding the correct Master Track or Track format.
Or, you're looking at the Clip Mixer and not the Track Mixer.
So my question is how do I export an already created and mixed 5.1 audio track (single track) properly?
I'd love to know this too - i've got a 7.1 from he audio studio, and I cant figure out how the hell to sync and export it to my footage from premiere :(
Hello Al, first of all we can see with your face expression how really difficult audio can be tricky in details!! I love to hear perfect audio but hate to work it myself...anyway I wanted to say something about the sequence you created with Multichannel, you imported the audio and as well we did not hear the whole sound, but there is one button that let you hear the whole audio (in the Audio Track Mixer window, on the master on the top there is something called Monitor All Channels).
I wanted to try if we still here the left and right movement but i am not on my workstation.
Anyway I am sure you know about it but wanted to ask, why you did not talk about it ?
Thank you.
I didn't mention it because I missed it! Sorry, and thanks for pointing it out.
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My film school is only lightly touching on surround sound (mostly because I asked them to), however the lecturer says he will migrate over to ProTools to teach this as he's a professional sound engineer for films and he prefers to teach in that program.
Would any of your future programs touch up on (or feature) Pro Tools and their surround sound capabilities?
Sorry, I don't use Pro Tools.
If you're working with just 6.0 instead of 5.1 (so no LFE), is it best to have "Standard" for your track types when making a new sequence? Or still "5.1"?
It all depends on the content; if you are starting with 5.1 clips, then use 5.1 tracks, otherwise Standard or Mono are fine.
I see, thank you! I've been having issues with my export(s) rearranging the audio channels/messing up the mix, it might be a codec thing instead.
Thanks
You're welcome.
But wouldn't it be better anyway when you do it with 6 mono tracks? Then you can asign manually what should be put out on the different channels... because I do not know where I could get music in native surround?! Or did I get something wrong?
Yes, except for the LFE (subwoofer) which you can't isolate with a mono track. That's why it's better to have a properly mixed 5.1 track; which you can produce in Audition!
@@VideoRevealed thanks!!
Excellent video but I maybe missing something, how do I convert from my stereo audio that’s already in the timeline to 5.1 ? Or is that too late ? Lol
You can't do that in the Timeline. You need to export out a new audio file that is set to 5.1, import it back in and place it on the Timeline.
It won't change anything thought; the 2 tracks in a 5.1 Sequence will sound the same as 2 tracks in an exported 5.1 audio file.
Hi, when you made the multichannel sequence, why did you turn the center and LFE channels to left and right? Shouldn't they be at the center?
In a Multichannel Master the panning is really just routing. The LFE needs to go to channel 4, which is the right output of 3-4. Make sense?
Ooh yes, now it makes sense. Thank you very much! Also great vid.
@videorevealEd I need your help. I'm using Adobe premiere cc 2017. I followed your instructions and opened a 5.1 six audios but I'm having two challenges. 1. There's no auto pan in all the channels just like yours. It only has a master pan. 2. Second problem is, I can't insert any audio into the 6 channels. I tried using mono audio files and it didn't work... Pls help me asap. I'm desperate 😭😭
You'll only see the surround panner if the track is mono. Right-click on the left side of the Timeline and choose Add Track. Pick mono. Now drag your media to that track.
Also, why are you using 2017? Update to 2020 for tons of new features, better stability and more.
when i do this, my timeline dont gif the 5.1 i can't put audio there what is whrong? codec?
Is your audio file a 5.1? Did you try to manually add a 5.1 audio track by Right-clicking on the Track Header and choosing Add Tracks...
Here is a screenshot: imgur.com/a/3finL
Hi, I'm working as a video editor for a pilot film project which will be projected in Dolby Atmos Theatre but our sound mixing for film is not Dolby Atmos mix. It's just 5.1 mixing. Is there going to be any issues while screening? My second question is..as a video editor do i need to care about audio tracks settings while exporting movie for cinema? because i heard...video and audio tracks are given as separate files to the cinema
I haven't worked with Dolby Atmos so I really don't know. I would guess that the audio needs to edited in a program that supports Atmos and exported out to the format the theater screens at which would be any number of formats.
It might be worthwhile to source out a professional audio house to guarantee your results.
@@VideoRevealed thank you very much for the reply
Would it be easier to to change all your mono files in your project to 5.1 (e.g. the L file would he 5.1 with the channel set to the L channel)? Than just import 6 different 5.1 files (i.e. each file would be L, R...)?
That would work only if you didn't want to pan the tracks.
@@VideoRevealed Awesome! Tracks were already mastered I'm just making some cuts. Now if I could only export in the same lossless quality (1.5 mbps). DD seems to cap at 640 kbps.
That might be a licensing restriction.
Plus icon for source patching? I don't have it.
That will only appear if you have more tracks in the clip you're selecting than you have available tracks in the Timeline.
that was really cool explanation (please excuse my latino english) i got digital audio conected to my 5.1 amplifier, ¿how can we monitor the 5.1 mix from premiere?
You need some type of audio interface that has 6 separate outputs. As long as your operating system can access all those outputs, then Premiere Pro can too. There are many interfaces out there, many support USB so they work on macOS and Windows.
@@VideoRevealed thanks! i´ll try (my card has all thoose outputs) it is sad to be unable to use the 5.1 enviroment using digital
If your operating system can see the outputs, then so can all Adobe applications. Here is a screenshot: imgur.com/xl4Vx5T
If you can't see the outputs when choosing the correct Device Class, then your card isn't using standard protocols.
@@VideoRevealed thanks... i´ve been trying but have no good result, ¿could we talk via e-mail? TIA
Thank you SO much. I've wanted to know how to do this for the longest time. You work for Adobe as well right? I've seen you on their channel.
Thanks. I worked for Adobe for 17+ years until 2014.
Is it possible to mix 7.1 in Premiere Pro or any alternatives? Thank you!
Premiere Pro does not support 7.1 surround sound and I'm not aware of any other available options.