I fitted a 5.1 system on my living room and it caught out a lot of people with the sound effects especially from the back while we watching movies. I got so used to it that every time I’d be looking at the people instead of watching a movie. I’d like to experience a full 9.2.2. Must be worth all the money
Honestly, I do not think it would seem so much better. I think in order to really push surround sound to the maximum performance, you would need a symmetrical grid of speakers arranged in a box around the seating arrangement, with speakers in the floor, in the sidewalls, and above you in symmetrical arrangement. I think a 5.1 set up that added another 5 on the ceiling and 5 mid level speakers placed halfway up the walls. That would create a near perfect area where sound could be make to pass underneath you, over you, just over your right shoulder like a riccochet, that kind of stuff. I guess you could call it 5.1x3 because it would simply be adding 2 more layers, one above and one below. I think they already have that anyways, its the only possible way to improve the system to give it more depth and flexibility.
This gives so much more qualitative reasoning for why movie theatres provide such a better experience. Without thinking about it, it’s just publicly watching a movie on a big screen; but the sound of the theatre is unmatched in a consumers home.
No way a theater can match a home system for one sitting individual. You can’t make the sound perfect for hundreds of people sitting all over a big room, however you can tune a system to perfection for one person.
And the best part about the movie theatre is how you need to wear earplugs or hearing protection for most of the films. Because they blast your brains with 120 decibels of pain every time a scene has as much as a car driving in it.
Very true... even I feel the same... It's too much of a sound, totally unwarranted ... It's ok for blasts and explosions..but for car chasing and crashing scenes...??? Sound engineers should guide the theatre management after the recording is done...
actually its super simple to remaster down, all you need is a dolby room and 2 mics placed at about 20 inches above ear level when sitting, and roughly 6 feet from any one speaker press record and press play. while some will say this doesnt work, i can assure you it does. and if u want to do it all digitally you can just do it on the pc, no analogue needed but u need the right software. this is also known as SQ Quadraphonic sound or 4.0, but this format didnt have anything to do with Dolby and their gig.
The inverse is more common in my opinion. Ever since I set up my 7.1 system I've noticed how a lot of media just wasnt made with surround sound in mind. Then of course, every so often something comes outta left field that reminds me it's possible for the system to sound great. It's always something odd too, like Shrek on Blu-ray.
Very informative video! I purchased a Yamaha 7.2 A/V receiver with Klipsch Synergy speakers. I have a 7.1 surround sound system. I purchased the system in 2012, but it still rocks and going strong! Never had any issues! Knock on wood! My main front speakers are Klipsch F3s and my sub is the SW-450 downfiring sub. My surrounds are the KLipsch S-2s and my center is the Klipsch C-2. My room size is 21 x 15 so I have been very pleased with the system! And I have a 55 inch TV. I love watching Blu-ray movies in 7.1. So I had to get some large area rugs.
The centre channel can actually be reproduced with just the front left and right channels. Since both ears will hear the same thing, it will sound like it's coming from the centre. This can be helpful because you wouldn't need to have a separate speaker for speech and it might sound better because it's using larger speakers.
I've found that often leads to unclear Dialog. Especially for audibly busy scenes. A well matched center shouldn't sound worse for dialog than your mains.
@@Erowens98 Yeah, that could be a thing too since with a separate speaker you don't need to worry as much about distortion and weird effects that using physical speakers can cause.
Phantom Centre is okay but the dynamics of having an extra speaker that contains the dialog without the need to represent the left and right stereo can make the speakers easier to listen to and increase the dynamic resolution of the stereo tracks
Indeed it can and it works well enough if you sit in the middle of the soundfield. However, in a theatre setting where you might be seated quite a bit off center, having a center channel for dialogue audio is almost essential. Otherwise, for instance if you're seated far to the left of the room, you'll mainly hear dialogue from the left, while the right channel sound arrives slightly late from the right.
First sentence of this video is absolutely true and I was wondering exactly that today morning, after watching something about Dolby Atmos. Thank you for your explanations.
“by sending a different signal to each speaker in a stereo speaker setup, sound can appear to come anywhere in between the two speakers” - in a proper stereo setup, sound can be made to originate outside of the speaker boundaries, not just between them. So many people get this wrong.
And to add, the beauty(though it comes with its own complications) of Dolby Atmos is you can render it to binaural and consumers using headphones, airpods etc can have the surround experience.
For anyone interested, this video has some info on how binaural audio can be immersive through headphones by playing on HRTF (Head-Related Transfer Function) and other phenomena: ua-cam.com/video/4fPWFAFwIQQ/v-deo.html
I run an inflatable outdoor cinema, running 7.2.2, to get ovhead we run truss totems 3 meters high and have angled downward some full range coax speakers, we run a DBX rta mic and do a sound sweep each channel before each screening
I have created my own speaker set, which includes 2 above head LR speakers 2 front LR speakers One base below head And two LR tweeters placed into my chair(near rear LR tweeters) And the magic they all produce was literally awesome 😍😍😍. My brother has a branded 5.1 home theatre but my custom made set beats them easily in terms of quality, base, and surround(3D effects). The only thing is my custom set has slightly less volume than the home theatre.
I think you've missed out the Hall effect . Where two rear speakers are connected in series but out of phase (ie the two negatives - are connected together and the +vs are conected one to the left front and the other to the right front ) thus the rear play the sum of the diffrent of the front L&R but out of phase. This is a brilliant effect . Worth a try !
So what if i have cinema theater speakers and am building a professional screening room? What configuration should i use? (Krix KX 4010s, 5510p's, mounted wall speakers, subs and horns, etc)
We watch movies rarely, so the surround hoopla is kinda not that important to us. But it’s nice to have for those moments where it’s needed. We have 7.1, because that was “common state of the art” when I set it up. Subwoofer is hidden as are rear surrounds, the other five speakers are not hidden but not in your face. It works well enough to provide correct sonic motion and dynamics for movies. Then for music I transition the whole thing to multi channel stereo, with a second similar system that feeds other rooms. Wherever you are in the house or garden, you get a decent stereo image with excellent audio quality.
Very helpful! Thank you very much! I have another question now about video. I've noticed on a lot of movies that there seems to be a filter that makes the entire film look like I'm watching it through a dirty glass. I noticed it in this video. At 3:50 the video is clear but just a few seconds later by 3:55 the video is zoomed in just a bit and now it's almost like I'm watching through a slightly dirty glass. It's very noticeable with your black shirt. Can you help me understand what's going on here? I noticed it really badly with the movie Pig staring Nick Cage if you need any other references. Thank you.
Dolby Atmos is something out of this world when you experience it with all the dedicated setup for it. And no, upfiring speakers that reflect from the ceiling are not even close to dedicated ceiling speakers in a Dolby Atmos setup. I personally like the simple surround system due to versatility and a dual subwoofer system for Hi-Fi capability. A 3.2 is my baseline and a 5.2 is a great setup for anything you wanna play through the system. I come from the live sound industry where most of our work is either stereo or simple surround and it is amazing what you can get out of a system like that. Specially for music.
I got a setup for my PC of 2.1 (2 stereo boxes & 1 subwoofer), I hardly see the reason for more since I rarely see audio tracks which have more than 2 channels to begin with. The subwoofer does it's job brilliantly and the audio is awesome with only 2 stereo boxes. They're fairly low power too, 3W each and a 5W subwoofer (if I'm not mistaken) but it's alr as they are pretty much 50cm away from your head at most (the subwoofer included), had to mention this as subwoofers don't need to be in any special direction from you, anywhere is fine, but RANGE matters, I believe 1m away from you is the most this subwoofer is good for. EDIT: Btw, wanted to say. The closest theater from my home seems to use a 7.2 system, with 7 stereo boxes and probably 2 subwoofers or more (of course, they are SUPER powerful stereo boxes and subwoofers). That's the standard hall with only 2D screenings, the ultra hall is probably 9.2.2 but I didn't check it recently (this one has 3D screenings too).
Just curious if I place the two channels of a 2.1 system at the centres of the two corners of my room making 45° angles where the speakers face the 90° corners & not towards the listener, can I get a 'faux' surround sound effect? Let's say, the channels are also tilted 20°-25° up towards the ceiling.
2:35 Hometheater enthusiasts will argue that having 2-sub is always better than one due to how the 2 subs even out the bass response across the listening area if placed right.
My surround sound setup consists of a samsung soundbar/sub that I placed in the corner because it projects better. I also placed the tv there so you are looking towards the source of the audio. I know it's very complicated and absolutely groundbreaking for audio tech.
I've found that rear speakers create inaudible dialogue on my system so I just add them to the L and R channels and move them up front. I run a 3.1.2 configuration and that works great for me.
If you had 6 discrete RCA connections, yes. (Left, Center, Right, Rear Left, Rear Right, Sub). But many misunderstood how to properly set up a surround system and only used stereo RCA. In that case, it wasn’t true 5.1…
@@AudioUniversity okay my question I guess is that how did we get surround with DVD that had only rca inputs from DVD player to say your receiver. Also, I get what your saying regarding the rca. The mono rca style cable right? And most people use the stereo style which has both ground left and right and ground
@@AudioUniversity thank you! Then, are more than two outs necessary if one is creating say a rock opera with sounds, music and noises approaching the listener from all directions spatially?
@@dubblyewjay1133 if you’re producing sound for stage (or screen), then yes, having more outputs would help in creating that soundscape, and that is sometimes done in theatre, as well as hiding speakers in the sets for incidentals (like a phone ringing, a stereo playing music and such). Although surround sound is not that regularly used in theater, they do often add speakers in the auditorium for sound effects, but music is usually still just mixed in stereo (since the size of the auditorium will make speaker placement hard to make the surround sound image work for all people. Since placement of speakers is key in making the soundscape work, having a large auditorium, and often balconies as well, makes mixing surround in a theater pretty close to impossible.) Movie theaters are a different story as they are built to a standard, so speaker placement and such is set in the standard, so they should (if nobody’s changed any settings) sound pretty much the same from one room to the next
Just finished my 5.2.2 home theatre surround set up. I’m quite happy. Love seeing my Sony STR-DH790 displaying “ATMOS”. Now I’m just fine tuning and trying to watch as many movies and shows in ATMOS. I’m still running a 1080P ultra short throw projector to a 100” screen.
When it came the 2-Channel audio I actually preferred my budget Sony STR DN1080 receiver than a mid-range £2,000 Denon receiver. As far as multi-channel is concerned, the mid price Denon 6500 obviously wiped the floor with the Sony but that still doesn't take away the fact the Sony IMO sounded just as good if not better than the mid-priced Denon with 2-channel music 😲
@@Totalplonker Sony went out of their way to prove that they can make quality surround receivers with the Str-dn1050 and 1080. They killed Pioneer, Onkyo, Yamaha that year in terms of price/performance/functions. They do this occationally in different tech areas. Most sucessful was when they decided to make a killer dSLR in the A7 series..
Great video. So back in the day, when I first had an interest in home cinema. Prologic days lol. 5.1 meant- 3 fronts including a stereo pair and a centre. 2 rears that had to be behind you and obviously a sub- can be positioned anywhere. In a 5.1 as you describe it seems that the “rears” are now supposed to be placed at the side of you? Have I got that wrong?
Thanks for a very informative video and explanation. The problem is that most manufacturers assume that the listeners all have space behind them for rear surround speaker placement, where in reality, as with myself, most rooms are small/narrow and the surround speakers are then place next to the seating/viewing position. Are the speakers then turned towards the listener, or at an angle towards the center or TV? It may be a good idea to do a video on this situation.
@AudioUniversity --- When designing a home theater room, are their any surround sound standards that require mutually exclusive and incompatible speaker placements?
Great stuff, thanks for this. I've got an odd scenario. I've got an older 5 channel ATI 1505 power amp that I don't need for surround anymore. I'd like to repurpose it as a dedicated 2 channel system. My questions is... can I utilize those other channels in a stereo setup? The amp is not designed with a bridging feature, but I was wondering if there is any kind of DIY hack that might be available. Thanks!
I've been experimenting with " Dolby PLII music". And this with both a 5.1 and a 7.1. Unbelievable what happens with a stereo recording. And that mainly on the 7.1. Sound on all sides.
Thanks, I wonder how B&O can call their soundbars for Dolby atmos when its only placed infront of the listener? I know some of the speakerunits inside are aimed toward the celling but how the noway that can be REAL dolby atmos. More like virtual.
@AudioUniversity dude-are you or have you ever lived in Southern Indiana? You must be a twin separated at birth because there is no way you look remarkably this close to a guy I went to school with, man... Add also-absolutely fantastic video. Very clear, easy to grasp, exact explanation. And the production looks amazing 👏 great job, man and best of luck to you--whether we used to pass each other in the halls or not 😎
I need some assistance. I have cable box and a Roku, should both connect through the receiver first. But, when we want to just watch news or a TV show without going through all of our speakers how would we make this connection? We’d just like to use the TV’s speakers for news programs and regular TV shows. And is it possible to set up the receiver so that when we turn on the Roku box it “triggers” the receiver to come on automatically? Our receiver is a Marantz SR5010. Thx
Thank you. What is your opinion on wireless speakers? Would there be a sound loss due to no wires? Should we expect improved quality as the state of technology 'may' have improved such as bluetooth?
Quick question can a 5.1.2 ch perform 7.1? Because my thinking would be that the top channels could do the side surround speakers or the back surround speaker
HI, I am not getting the expected sound level after connecting my Samsung TV (CU700065) with my Sony Home Theater (HT-S20R). and connecting with HD 3 (ARC) but the audio is still not coming through.
I get what you said about adding additional subwoofer to make a stereo LFE, but I don't get and don't know how this works when you said that one sub will provide LFE while the other sub will extend the frequency range of signals sent to the primary speakers. Is it like one sub will provide 35-200hz and the other will provide 35hz below?
One subwoofer could play low frequency effects (that are only sent to the sub) while the other subwoofer could play the same signal as the primary channels, but low passed to crossover with the primary speakers. In this Case, one is just for expanding the frequency range of the system, while the other is for effects, discretely sent to the sub.
@@AudioUniversity Okay , thanks for elaborating. This is new information to me and it will help me when I feel like adding another sub. Thank you very much.
Adding to this: you can basically hook up any type of speaker to any type of channel. The channel dictates what kind of audio the speaker can receive. The speaker type dictates what part of that range you can hear well, when it's coming from that speaker. Hooking up a subwoofer to a primary channel will give it the same sounds as other primary speakers. But because of the nature of the subwoofer, the low frequency sounds will be much more prominent. This way you can have the primary sound range be shared by different types of speakers, all with their own specialty. You're kind of countering the tendency for smaller primary speakers to have their lower end sounds overshadowed by their high pitched ones. Then besides that there is the subwoofer for the LFE channel that can add effects specifically meant for subwoofers, as he explained. It can be quite noticeable in movies where someone who is speaking has a deeper voice while there's music/sound effects playing. The LFE will mostly do the rumbling effects, while the primaries will screech at you with trumpets. Having a speaker hooked up to the primary channel that can better convey low end sounds can fill in that gap.
I have a center speaker with one 6ohm20 watts twitter right in the middle +2× 8ohm15watt woofers+ 4× 4ohm 20watts woofers + 2×4ohm 240w max twitters how do you think I have to wire inside that center speaker?
Quick question. I am using a stereo system with Wiim, I want to enjoy Netflix movie, - which sound shall I choose on Netflix? - which setting on tv shall I choose? PCM or Dolby?
If the input signal is only stereo, will the surround (rear) speakers on a 5.1 system be silent; or will they play the sound of the L & R channels also?
Yeah, well. In my day we just had left and right. That was it. Then they started adding to stereo receivers the subwoofer out and we essentially got 2.1
Please help. i have simple 5.1 old surround system, it works still great on test pc .. also after win 11. it just play stereo. i really really search all setings but nothing works :(
I believe Blu-ray can store higher channel counts. I’m not sure about streaming platforms though. This is an important question to ask, Larry. Thank you.
Define "better". Higher quality, more discreet speaker channels, etc.? 4k blu-rays have the highest audio quality, and the most discreet audio channels. They hold Dolby Atmos & DTSX audio formats. Some streaming shows will also have the Dolby Atmos format. They sound good, however, they are compressed and "lossy" in quality vs 4k blu-rays.
You should cover the migration from Mono to Stereo (1950s to 1970s). Stereo FM (sub channel usage) and LP addition. Film stock was last in mid-1970s (just in time for Star Wars). The 1970s experiment (failed) of Quadriphonic Sound. BUT some Bands tried (The Who).
Mixing in surround isn't "easier", its different. A surround format doesn't make it easier to hear a stereo image. 2 channel is the best for 'stereo' imaging. Surround creates music/audio in space.
I fitted a 5.1 system on my living room and it caught out a lot of people with the sound effects especially from the back while we watching movies. I got so used to it that every time I’d be looking at the people instead of watching a movie.
I’d like to experience a full 9.2.2. Must be worth all the money
Honestly, I do not think it would seem so much better. I think in order to really push surround sound to the maximum performance, you would need a symmetrical grid of speakers arranged in a box around the seating arrangement, with speakers in the floor, in the sidewalls, and above you in symmetrical arrangement. I think a 5.1 set up that added another 5 on the ceiling and 5 mid level speakers placed halfway up the walls. That would create a near perfect area where sound could be make to pass underneath you, over you, just over your right shoulder like a riccochet, that kind of stuff. I guess you could call it 5.1x3 because it would simply be adding 2 more layers, one above and one below. I think they already have that anyways, its the only possible way to improve the system to give it more depth and flexibility.
It is not drammatically better. Its neat but a solid 5.1 with a commanding center and bad ass subwoofer is all you need to wow people
bro made a video about surround and made it in mono
Never forget your roots
😂😂😂😂
UA-cam Doesn't Support Surround Sound, Only Mono & Stereo.
@@inkyencore0429incorrect, I’ve watched nightwish lives and other types of stuff on youtube with my 5.1 setup
@@inkyencore0429 stereo is literally the default I'm everything
Bruh
He chose to put it in mono
How awesome is this kid! We need more people in the world like him. I feel smarter after watching his videos. A great education. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
He did a great job but pretty sure he is a grown ass man.
@@garrydye2394 grown ass-man you say?
Yes, you are 100% right !
@@RicardoVermeltfoorthe’s either 17 or 32
This gives so much more qualitative reasoning for why movie theatres provide such a better experience. Without thinking about it, it’s just publicly watching a movie on a big screen; but the sound of the theatre is unmatched in a consumers home.
You haven't been to my theater room 😎
No way a theater can match a home system for one sitting individual. You can’t make the sound perfect for hundreds of people sitting all over a big room, however you can tune a system to perfection for one person.
And the best part about the movie theatre is how you need to wear earplugs or hearing protection for most of the films. Because they blast your brains with 120 decibels of pain every time a scene has as much as a car driving in it.
Very true... even I feel the same... It's too much of a sound, totally unwarranted ... It's ok for blasts and explosions..but for car chasing and crashing scenes...??? Sound engineers should guide the theatre management after the recording is done...
*Rerecording
If something is mixed in surround sound and you don't have the system to reproduce it you'll never get the effects of the mix.
Exactly! This is why early radio and recording "dumbed down music reproduction so joe average could listen "somewhat" on his car speakers.
actually its super simple to remaster down, all you need is a dolby room and 2 mics placed at about 20 inches above ear level when sitting, and roughly 6 feet from any one speaker press record and press play. while some will say this doesnt work, i can assure you it does. and if u want to do it all digitally you can just do it on the pc, no analogue needed but u need the right software. this is also known as SQ Quadraphonic sound or 4.0, but this format didnt have anything to do with Dolby and their gig.
The inverse is more common in my opinion. Ever since I set up my 7.1 system I've noticed how a lot of media just wasnt made with surround sound in mind.
Then of course, every so often something comes outta left field that reminds me it's possible for the system to sound great. It's always something odd too, like Shrek on Blu-ray.
@@josephzado2377The Shrek part caught me off guard. Got me proper laughing.
@gtjack9 It's probably because animations have more control than regular movies.
So you can make more adjustments accordingly especially in sound. 😊
clear, straight , on point, very easy to understand. big thanks, Kyle!
Thanks for watching, Dewa!
@@AudioUniversity my pleasure. thanks for your contents about audio. all the best and keep movin' 😉
What happened to Quadraphonic sound? I had Chicago album in quad. LOL!
what if he isn't straight
Very informative video! I purchased a Yamaha 7.2 A/V receiver with Klipsch Synergy speakers. I have a 7.1 surround sound system. I purchased the system in 2012, but it still rocks and going strong! Never had any issues! Knock on wood! My main front speakers are Klipsch F3s and my sub is the SW-450 downfiring sub. My surrounds are the KLipsch S-2s and my center is the Klipsch C-2. My room size is 21 x 15 so I have been very pleased with the system! And I have a 55 inch TV. I love watching Blu-ray movies in 7.1. So I had to get some large area rugs.
Never fail to learn something new from this channel. Thanks Kyle!
Glad to hear it, Richard! Thanks!
You always give detail explanation with simple easy to understand even for layman novice to audio equipment.
The centre channel can actually be reproduced with just the front left and right channels. Since both ears will hear the same thing, it will sound like it's coming from the centre. This can be helpful because you wouldn't need to have a separate speaker for speech and it might sound better because it's using larger speakers.
A phantom centre.
I've found that often leads to unclear Dialog. Especially for audibly busy scenes. A well matched center shouldn't sound worse for dialog than your mains.
@@Erowens98 Yeah, that could be a thing too since with a separate speaker you don't need to worry as much about distortion and weird effects that using physical speakers can cause.
Phantom Centre is okay but the dynamics of having an extra speaker that contains the dialog without the need to represent the left and right stereo can make the speakers easier to listen to and increase the dynamic resolution of the stereo tracks
Indeed it can and it works well enough if you sit in the middle of the soundfield. However, in a theatre setting where you might be seated quite a bit off center, having a center channel for dialogue audio is almost essential. Otherwise, for instance if you're seated far to the left of the room, you'll mainly hear dialogue from the left, while the right channel sound arrives slightly late from the right.
cheers from England, its always good to see a young dude with a brain doing great things,
its rare these days since tik tok and stuff lol
Thanks, MAK-1!
First sentence of this video is absolutely true and I was wondering exactly that today morning, after watching something about Dolby Atmos. Thank you for your explanations.
Glad to help, Korkenknopfus! Thanks again for watching my videos!
This helped me tremendously, I was so confused when looking for a new soundbar for my TV. But this explains so much. Thank you!
Glad it helped!
Thank you so much. Honesty I should be watching a video from your channel every day of the week!
Thanks, Medard! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!
“by sending a different signal to each speaker in a stereo speaker setup, sound can appear to come anywhere in between the two speakers” - in a proper stereo setup, sound can be made to originate outside of the speaker boundaries, not just between them. So many people get this wrong.
This is wonderfully informative. Thank you so much for posting this and explaining it all in such a clear and concise way.
And to add, the beauty(though it comes with its own complications) of Dolby Atmos is you can render it to binaural and consumers using headphones, airpods etc can have the surround experience.
No, they can't.
There's just no way to simulate surround over 2 speakers, each in your ear.
@@tomaszzalewski8135 as someone who's experienced it personally, you definitely can.
@@tomaszzalewski8135 throught speakers no, with headphones yes. If you disagree go read
@@tomaszzalewski8135 Why? You only have two ears.
For anyone interested, this video has some info on how binaural audio can be immersive through headphones by playing on HRTF (Head-Related Transfer Function) and other phenomena: ua-cam.com/video/4fPWFAFwIQQ/v-deo.html
As a Speaker developer I like Stereo. With Stereo I get the best sound quality. Greetz from Switzerland
I don't usually comment unless it's really good. This one was on point and easy to understand.
Glad to hear that! Thanks for watching.
You have the voice that sell !
I run an inflatable outdoor cinema, running 7.2.2, to get ovhead we run truss totems 3 meters high and have angled downward some full range coax speakers, we run a DBX rta mic and do a sound sweep each channel before each screening
I have created my own speaker set, which includes
2 above head LR speakers
2 front LR speakers
One base below head
And two LR tweeters placed into my chair(near rear LR tweeters)
And the magic they all produce was literally awesome 😍😍😍.
My brother has a branded 5.1 home theatre but my custom made set beats them easily in terms of quality, base, and surround(3D effects). The only thing is my custom set has slightly less volume than the home theatre.
Thank you so much for this video.
Your channel is literally my school of audio👍
Glad to help, Charles! Thanks for watching.
I think you've missed out the Hall effect . Where two rear speakers are connected in series but out of phase (ie the two negatives - are connected together and the +vs are conected one to the left front and the other to the right front ) thus the rear play the sum of the diffrent of the front L&R but out of phase. This is a brilliant effect . Worth a try !
So what if i have cinema theater speakers and am building a professional screening room? What configuration should i use? (Krix KX 4010s, 5510p's, mounted wall speakers, subs and horns, etc)
Awesome explanation!! I'm learning so much from your channel. 👍
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching, Lihterature!
The best video on surround sound. I used to be confused about speakers and sound systems. Flawless presentation ! Tq bro🙂
Thank you Bud, well explained !
Glad to help. Thanks for watching, Johnny!
Informative. On the point, NO gimmicks or goofs just shared knowledge!!
Glad you enjoyed it, Biff! Thanks for watching.
Woof woof
Excellent and Clear summary of the subject. thanks!
We watch movies rarely, so the surround hoopla is kinda not that important to us. But it’s nice to have for those moments where it’s needed. We have 7.1, because that was “common state of the art” when I set it up. Subwoofer is hidden as are rear surrounds, the other five speakers are not hidden but not in your face. It works well enough to provide correct sonic motion and dynamics for movies. Then for music I transition the whole thing to multi channel stereo, with a second similar system that feeds other rooms. Wherever you are in the house or garden, you get a decent stereo image with excellent audio quality.
Very helpful! Thank you very much! I have another question now about video. I've noticed on a lot of movies that there seems to be a filter that makes the entire film look like I'm watching it through a dirty glass. I noticed it in this video. At 3:50 the video is clear but just a few seconds later by 3:55 the video is zoomed in just a bit and now it's almost like I'm watching through a slightly dirty glass. It's very noticeable with your black shirt. Can you help me understand what's going on here? I noticed it really badly with the movie Pig staring Nick Cage if you need any other references. Thank you.
Thank you! This was a clear and concise explanation of surround sound.
Dolby Atmos is something out of this world when you experience it with all the dedicated setup for it. And no, upfiring speakers that reflect from the ceiling are not even close to dedicated ceiling speakers in a Dolby Atmos setup. I personally like the simple surround system due to versatility and a dual subwoofer system for Hi-Fi capability. A 3.2 is my baseline and a 5.2 is a great setup for anything you wanna play through the system. I come from the live sound industry where most of our work is either stereo or simple surround and it is amazing what you can get out of a system like that. Specially for music.
I got a setup for my PC of 2.1 (2 stereo boxes & 1 subwoofer), I hardly see the reason for more since I rarely see audio tracks which have more than 2 channels to begin with.
The subwoofer does it's job brilliantly and the audio is awesome with only 2 stereo boxes. They're fairly low power too, 3W each and a 5W subwoofer (if I'm not mistaken) but it's alr as they are pretty much 50cm away from your head at most (the subwoofer included), had to mention this as subwoofers don't need to be in any special direction from you, anywhere is fine, but RANGE matters, I believe 1m away from you is the most this subwoofer is good for.
EDIT: Btw, wanted to say. The closest theater from my home seems to use a 7.2 system, with 7 stereo boxes and probably 2 subwoofers or more (of course, they are SUPER powerful stereo boxes and subwoofers).
That's the standard hall with only 2D screenings, the ultra hall is probably 9.2.2 but I didn't check it recently (this one has 3D screenings too).
I'm using 7.1 I can't imagine 9.2.2
Just imagine 2 more speakers, one more sub and 2 more speakers above your head. Its not that hard.
@@JanSzedlak fr tho
@@JanSzedlakyou misunderstood his statement
I'm sticking with 2 channel stereo until 18.8.4 comes available.... And 32k TV's.
If you're going beyond 5.1 you have more money than sense
@@tzenophilebro has not experienced 7.2.4 💀
@@goldendemon1015 i have 7.1 and the difference to 5.1 is barely audible. Of course my wires are not 2000USD per foot so that may be the problem
@tzenophile I was kidding ik the difference isn't huge but if you switch from 7.1 back to 5.1 in a 7.1 setup it's way worse
@@goldendemon1015 I disagree. 5.1 is plenty. those extra 2 speakers in the back adds very little
Just curious if I place the two channels of a 2.1 system at the centres of the two corners of my room making 45° angles where the speakers face the 90° corners & not towards the listener, can I get a 'faux' surround sound effect? Let's say, the channels are also tilted 20°-25° up towards the ceiling.
This video was very great, thank you
There's also, DTS and Auro-3D out there. Slight differences but regardless they're surround formats.
Thanks for mentioning these, Mike.
2:35 Hometheater enthusiasts will argue that having 2-sub is always better than one due to how the 2 subs even out the bass response across the listening area if placed right.
He's talking about the number of LFE channels, not the number of subs. Many dual sub systems are run from the same channel in either 5.1 or 7.1.
@@altosack Sorry, I was totally misheard him about that.
This video made it so simple to understand it.
Thanks a lot 🙏
My surround sound setup consists of a samsung soundbar/sub that I placed in the corner because it projects better. I also placed the tv there so you are looking towards the source of the audio. I know it's very complicated and absolutely groundbreaking for audio tech.
i have had a quadrophonic setup for a little bit, my desktop has support for up to 7.1 speakers.
I've found that rear speakers create inaudible dialogue on my system so I just add them to the L and R channels and move them up front. I run a 3.1.2 configuration and that works great for me.
What a great presentation man👌👍👏👏👏
Excellent information that is easy to understand. Thanks!
Glad to help, Andy!
Learnt something new as usual. Thanks Kyle
Thanks, Dmitry!
Mu question is how did we used to get all that 5.1 sound to the speakers back in thebday when all we had was rca?
If you had 6 discrete RCA connections, yes. (Left, Center, Right, Rear Left, Rear Right, Sub). But many misunderstood how to properly set up a surround system and only used stereo RCA. In that case, it wasn’t true 5.1…
@@AudioUniversity okay my question I guess is that how did we get surround with DVD that had only rca inputs from DVD player to say your receiver.
Also, I get what your saying regarding the rca. The mono rca style cable right? And most people use the stereo style which has both ground left and right and ground
Confused about interfaces. Why are most musical and recording interfaces 2 outs? Is it because they are stereo?
Thanks Kyle!
Yes. That’s right! Music is most commonly mixed in stereo. Good question, Jay!
@@AudioUniversity thank you! Then, are more than two outs necessary if one is creating say a rock opera with sounds, music and noises approaching the listener from all directions spatially?
@@dubblyewjay1133 if you’re producing sound for stage (or screen), then yes, having more outputs would help in creating that soundscape, and that is sometimes done in theatre, as well as hiding speakers in the sets for incidentals (like a phone ringing, a stereo playing music and such). Although surround sound is not that regularly used in theater, they do often add speakers in the auditorium for sound effects, but music is usually still just mixed in stereo (since the size of the auditorium will make speaker placement hard to make the surround sound image work for all people. Since placement of speakers is key in making the soundscape work, having a large auditorium, and often balconies as well, makes mixing surround in a theater pretty close to impossible.)
Movie theaters are a different story as they are built to a standard, so speaker placement and such is set in the standard, so they should (if nobody’s changed any settings) sound pretty much the same from one room to the next
Imagine if we had this kind of video back when r/hometheater was still alive and well. The amount of sticky posts this would've saved is astounding.
Just finished my 5.2.2 home theatre surround set up. I’m quite happy. Love seeing my Sony STR-DH790 displaying “ATMOS”. Now I’m just fine tuning and trying to watch as many movies and shows in ATMOS. I’m still running a 1080P ultra short throw projector to a 100” screen.
When it came the 2-Channel audio I actually preferred my budget Sony STR DN1080 receiver than a mid-range £2,000 Denon receiver. As far as multi-channel is concerned, the mid price Denon 6500 obviously wiped the floor with the Sony but that still doesn't take away the fact the Sony IMO sounded just as good if not better than the mid-priced Denon with 2-channel music 😲
@@Totalplonker Sony went out of their way to prove that they can make quality surround receivers with the Str-dn1050 and 1080.
They killed Pioneer, Onkyo, Yamaha that year in terms of price/performance/functions.
They do this occationally in different tech areas. Most sucessful was when they decided to make a killer dSLR in the A7 series..
I just bought a DH790. Haven't purchased LfRfs yet but its handling my 3.1 setup nicely.
Have you experimented with 7.2 instead of 5.2.2?
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Excellent information that is easy to understand. Thanks!
Great video. So back in the day, when I first had an interest in home cinema. Prologic days lol. 5.1 meant- 3 fronts including a stereo pair and a centre. 2 rears that had to be behind you and obviously a sub- can be positioned anywhere.
In a 5.1 as you describe it seems that the “rears” are now supposed to be placed at the side of you? Have I got that wrong?
Thanks for a very informative video and explanation.
The problem is that most manufacturers assume that the listeners all have space behind them for rear surround speaker placement, where in reality, as with myself, most rooms are small/narrow and the surround speakers are then place next to the seating/viewing position.
Are the speakers then turned towards the listener, or at an angle towards the center or TV?
It may be a good idea to do a video on this situation.
why is the subwoofer in the front left top in your guide? find it very interesting !
you can place it where you want, its just for simplicity
I am happy with a jbl center and a 10" yamaha sub!
This was very helpful, thank you for making this video.
@AudioUniversity --- When designing a home theater room, are their any surround sound standards that require mutually exclusive and incompatible speaker placements?
This video was EXCELLENT! Thank you!
I've been away from audio for a while. Woah! That 2nd decimal blows my mind! Cool stuff.
@AudioUniversity --- What's the highest speaker count in a surround sound system configuration?
Great stuff, thanks for this. I've got an odd scenario. I've got an older 5 channel ATI 1505 power amp that I don't need for surround anymore. I'd like to repurpose it as a dedicated 2 channel system. My questions is... can I utilize those other channels in a stereo setup? The amp is not designed with a bridging feature, but I was wondering if there is any kind of DIY hack that might be available. Thanks!
Best video on the topic!
I have a 5.1 surround sound AV receiver. How do I add to more speakers to my system. Please let me know.
I've been experimenting with " Dolby PLII music". And this with both a 5.1 and a 7.1. Unbelievable what happens with a stereo recording. And that mainly on the 7.1.
Sound on all sides.
great video I can share to noobies.. thank you!
THIS WAS CRAZY TO KNOW GREAT CONTENT
Thanks, I wonder how B&O can call their soundbars for Dolby atmos when its only placed infront of the listener? I know some of the speakerunits inside are aimed toward the celling but how the noway that can be REAL dolby atmos. More like virtual.
thank you for sharing your knowledge of surround sound
Glad to help!
Incredibly helpful video!
Glad it was helpful!
@AudioUniversity dude-are you or have you ever lived in Southern Indiana? You must be a twin separated at birth because there is no way you look remarkably this close to a guy I went to school with, man...
Add also-absolutely fantastic video. Very clear, easy to grasp, exact explanation. And the production looks amazing 👏 great job, man and best of luck to you--whether we used to pass each other in the halls or not 😎
I want my voice like him man!! 🥲
Great video - everything I ever wanted to know but was afraid to ask - in 5 minutes!
I was subscribed to this channel and I didn't remember 😂 great video, thank you so much!
I need some assistance. I have cable box and a Roku, should both connect through the receiver first. But, when we want to just watch news or a TV show without going through all of our speakers how would we make this connection? We’d just like to use the TV’s speakers for news programs and regular TV shows. And is it possible to set up the receiver so that when we turn on the Roku box it “triggers” the receiver to come on automatically? Our receiver is a Marantz SR5010. Thx
Thank you. What is your opinion on wireless speakers? Would there be a sound loss due to no wires? Should we expect improved quality as the state of technology 'may' have improved such as bluetooth?
Thank you so much Bro
I had asked about this video
Thanks u noticed & made a clear cut video 😇
Glad to help, Nikhil! Thanks.
I have a question so I have foam padding. I was wondering if added it to my walls would it improve my listening experience by dampening the echo.
another awesome video. thanks so much for making this channel happen!!!
Thanks for watching and keeping this channel going, Shay!
I'm planning to set up a 5.1 surround sound set up to watch movies, can't wait
Thank you so much sir for your packaged information.
Can L & R 5.1 surround speakers be in-ceiling? I designing my setup but I only have a right wall where I am setting up.
Quick question can a 5.1.2 ch perform 7.1? Because my thinking would be that the top channels could do the side surround speakers or the back surround speaker
HI,
I am not getting the expected sound level after connecting my Samsung TV (CU700065) with my Sony Home Theater (HT-S20R). and connecting with HD 3 (ARC) but the audio is still not coming through.
I get what you said about adding additional subwoofer to make a stereo LFE, but I don't get and don't know how this works when you said that one sub will provide LFE while the other sub will extend the frequency range of signals sent to the primary speakers. Is it like one sub will provide 35-200hz and the other will provide 35hz below?
One subwoofer could play low frequency effects (that are only sent to the sub) while the other subwoofer could play the same signal as the primary channels, but low passed to crossover with the primary speakers. In this Case, one is just for expanding the frequency range of the system, while the other is for effects, discretely sent to the sub.
@@AudioUniversity Okay , thanks for elaborating. This is new information to me and it will help me when I feel like adding another sub. Thank you very much.
Adding to this: you can basically hook up any type of speaker to any type of channel. The channel dictates what kind of audio the speaker can receive. The speaker type dictates what part of that range you can hear well, when it's coming from that speaker.
Hooking up a subwoofer to a primary channel will give it the same sounds as other primary speakers. But because of the nature of the subwoofer, the low frequency sounds will be much more prominent. This way you can have the primary sound range be shared by different types of speakers, all with their own specialty.
You're kind of countering the tendency for smaller primary speakers to have their lower end sounds overshadowed by their high pitched ones.
Then besides that there is the subwoofer for the LFE channel that can add effects specifically meant for subwoofers, as he explained.
It can be quite noticeable in movies where someone who is speaking has a deeper voice while there's music/sound effects playing. The LFE will mostly do the rumbling effects, while the primaries will screech at you with trumpets. Having a speaker hooked up to the primary channel that can better convey low end sounds can fill in that gap.
I have a center speaker with one 6ohm20 watts twitter right in the middle +2× 8ohm15watt woofers+ 4× 4ohm 20watts woofers + 2×4ohm 240w max twitters how do you think I have to wire inside that center speaker?
Quick question. I am using a stereo system with Wiim, I want to enjoy Netflix movie,
- which sound shall I choose on Netflix?
- which setting on tv shall I choose? PCM or Dolby?
If the input signal is only stereo, will the surround (rear) speakers on a 5.1 system be silent; or will they play the sound of the L & R channels also?
Now I know what all those crazy numbers are for ...😎
Great explanation in 5 minutes. Does PL IIz heights count as x.x.2 ? Or, do those speakers add to the main speaker count?
Yeah, well. In my day we just had left and right. That was it. Then they started adding to stereo receivers the subwoofer out and we essentially got 2.1
Please help. i have simple 5.1 old surround system, it works still great on test pc .. also after win 11. it just play stereo. i really really search all setings but nothing works :(
For home viewing, how does one get source material better than 5.1 surround?
I believe Blu-ray can store higher channel counts. I’m not sure about streaming platforms though. This is an important question to ask, Larry. Thank you.
Define "better". Higher quality, more discreet speaker channels, etc.? 4k blu-rays have the highest audio quality, and the most discreet audio channels. They hold Dolby Atmos & DTSX audio formats. Some streaming shows will also have the Dolby Atmos format. They sound good, however, they are compressed and "lossy" in quality vs 4k blu-rays.
AppleTV 4K streaming Atmos to ur avr
Great video. My production company is moving into Atmos.
You should cover the migration from Mono to Stereo (1950s to 1970s).
Stereo FM (sub channel usage) and LP addition.
Film stock was last in mid-1970s (just in time for Star Wars).
The 1970s experiment (failed) of Quadriphonic Sound. BUT some Bands tried (The Who).
Does mixing in 5.1 surround or 9.1 surround make it easier to mix or easier to hear a stereo image than 2.1?
Mixing in surround isn't "easier", its different. A surround format doesn't make it easier to hear a stereo image. 2 channel is the best for 'stereo' imaging. Surround creates music/audio in space.
I agree with double T. Surround extends the sound stage beyond the limits of stereo.
Please say about the height the speaker must be placed
great job man !!
For editing 5.1, should the sub go direct to audio interface or to the L&R monitors?
Nice video ...thnx
Pls giv some tips about mastering plugging to final mix of any audio
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