My new long range battery from Lectric has arrived and its time to put it to the test. First up, throttle only. Buy Lectric XP: tinyurl.com/lectric14ah
Just did Diamond Valley Lake in California with the Long Range Battery. Total distance is 22 miles. The battery literally died (display turned off as well) during my final descent into the parking lot. The terrain is a mixture of some paved, but mostly bumpy trails with minor elevation changes. I was pedaling fairly hard on PAS 3 for approximately 90% of the time, but did turn it up to PAS 5 (going across dams with asphalt) while pedaling at 28 mi/hour the other 10% of the time. I weigh 200 lb with my backpack on. I'm disappointed in the range. The strange thing is that I still had 2 battery bars remaining on the display when the battery died. Thank you for the test; however, I think the best way to test is the way I did due to heat generation by the battery. The way you tested is not continuous.
Hey Chris, As always nice review! It’s easy to add a second battery with the ElectricAllWheel $45. dual battery kit. It includes all needed parts except second battery and they have a good installation video. I did my Lectric 2.0 ST in about an hour and now have 24Ah total using 14Ah internal extended battery plus a 10Ah second battery. My Hailong 48V 10Ah battery fits nicely between seat tube and rear fender and cost was about $200. By adding a 10Ah second battery you can easily double the stock 10Ah battery range and adding larger batteries is obviously possible. This is not a commercial endorsement, nor do I get compensation for plugging their product. I just think they’ve made the dual battery upgrade easy for the average rider. Thanks!
I see you mentioned "all wheel". Does that add a battery and power to the other wheel or something? Can you tell me more about what you mentioned or give me a link to the product?
@@johnh.miller1112 I actually came across their video about it right after I commented on this, so I got the details and the link. Thank you for mentioning it.
I got 60 miles on my long range battery using PAS 2. I live in a very flat area, tires were at 33 psi and I'm 6'3" 225#. It was also over 100 degrees. Voltage was 43.something when I called it quits. Could have easily gone more miles.
I only got 22 miles with the long range at 90% of the distance PAS 3 and the other 10% distance at PAS 5 (28 mi/hr). I think the use of PAS 5 severely diminishes the range. I'm 200 lb with my pack on. Terrain was a mixture of asphalt and rocky trails. No severe hills. Temp was ~80 F. I'm disappointed in the range from the "Long Range Battery". Sounds like it is working for you.
Chris I ordered 2 of the XP2.0 and will be getting them today. No we live in Southern New England and have a lot of hills. I went with Lectric primarily do to the company. I like the fact that the company is a real brick and mortar. Not just a lot of folks in an office taking orders. I didn’t buy the E Bikes ( bought 2 ) for just to use the bikes without peddling. But I really enjoyed an honest review on how far you could go with the Long Range battery. And yes Ordered both that way. Thanks again..
It's clear that these bikes were not designed to be used with throttle only. Other brands do much better in that department. This is simply pedal assist with the throttle being useful on certain occasions when you need a short burst of quick speed.
You are correct, the Lectric is an ebike is not a moped. It is designed to meet Class 1, 2, & 3 ebike classifications. It is also an entry level ebike.
@@oAPXo the base Super 73, which is the Z1, is close in price and is basically intended for using throttle more than pedaling. Problem it's that it's super low which makes pedaling difficult. I do like the 73 a lot but I'm going with the Lectric XP 3.0 long range
@ Pedro Fernandez: _"It's clear that these bikes were not designed to be used with throttle only."_ Agree. The pedal assist performance of the XP 3.0 is pretty good. But the throttle-only performance is disappointing. The acceleration in throttle-only mode is leisurely, and the top speed is significantly less than advertised. Typically around 18 mph; sometimes less. 😕
My old controller only read 53.8 max. New one goes to 54.6 on the same battery, so it just the controller reading being off. Put a voltmeter on the leads if you want an accurate reading.
I finally got my 3.0 long range in the mail yesterday! And what I noticed on yours is I really like what you did with the handlebar grips, any chance you have a video link or website where your got them ? Or the clamp looking thing
Another video of yours, you said not to go below 43 volts ( that would give you 1 more mile to get home ). Also you said there is a chance it might not recharge again if you push it much past 43. Today you took your battery down to 41 volts. Please explain this because you are confusing me a bit. Thanking you in advance.
I rode mine in florida, all flat very little wind all throttle wide open factory settings. At 15 miles I was at about 44 so I might could have gotten 3-4 more miles max. That's with the stock 2.0 battery. BTW I'm 6' 200lbs.
@jpop4415 I've owned several electric bikes and scooters and anytime I want to calculate how much miles I'll actually get I do about 40% of the stated miles because of my weight. They test the vehicle on some type of treadmill with no weight
$500 - 14ah Long Range Battery - 25 Miles Full Throttle Only $300 - 10ah Regular Battery - 18 Miles Full Throttle Only I'm not sure the $500 price tag is justified. It should realistically be a $400 battery.
@@ChrisCrossed I don't normally ride farther than that anyways. But I would be disappointed if I had bought the regular 2.0 I think. Thanks for the great videos!
i always ride pas level 5.. ride the throttle like a mad man.. i have the xp long range battery.. i get maybe 12 miles at best before i get the one battery bar left.. prob cause im 230lbs.. lol
I'm only 200 lb with my backpack on. I only got 22 mi with 90% of the distance using PAS 3 (while pedaling) and only 10% at PAS 5 (while pedaling). Apparently that PAS5 really destroys the range.
It should be against the law to call a 14Ah battery long range. Lectric for starters needs a 750 motor, a more powerful controller... the 14Ah battery should be standard on their xp for 1k ... 80Nm of torque instead of 55Nm. Hydraulic brakes... theres many better options out there for 1k.
I think you got totally scammed buying that battery. I get the same mileage with my standard battery from AiPAS Bikes, the same company that manufactures the XP LITE, XP3, Cargo, and the Trike for Lectric and than adds their name and logo on it. 😂
You need to speak louder and a little faster. As another noted, the range needs to be tested all atr once, not broken up, and under what specific conditions: road surface, overall terrain, rider weight, etc. This was not a particularly informative video.
One thing I really dislike about the XP, is that peddling feels more like drifting. I honestly almost always use full throttle because I don't get up to speed like on a normal nice street bike. Funny, you can easily hit 20MPH but I'm getting 24 on full throttle with petting that's only 4 MPH more. That and these bikes are really heavy, you are going to need a pump and sealant If you go long rang in case of flats.
Throttle only tests are the best content. Keep it up!
Just did Diamond Valley Lake in California with the Long Range Battery. Total distance is 22 miles. The battery literally died (display turned off as well) during my final descent into the parking lot. The terrain is a mixture of some paved, but mostly bumpy trails with minor elevation changes. I was pedaling fairly hard on PAS 3 for approximately 90% of the time, but did turn it up to PAS 5 (going across dams with asphalt) while pedaling at 28 mi/hour the other 10% of the time. I weigh 200 lb with my backpack on. I'm disappointed in the range. The strange thing is that I still had 2 battery bars remaining on the display when the battery died. Thank you for the test; however, I think the best way to test is the way I did due to heat generation by the battery. The way you tested is not continuous.
That pas 3 is a battery killer
your comment was helpful, now I wonder how much I have to peddle on pas 2 and 3 just to be at 20mph or 15
this is exactly the review I needed! thanks so much chris!
thanks for watching bro
Been waiting for this one
Hey Chris,
As always nice review!
It’s easy to add a second battery with the ElectricAllWheel $45. dual battery kit. It includes all needed parts except second battery and they have a good installation video. I did my Lectric 2.0 ST in about an hour and now have 24Ah total using 14Ah internal extended battery plus a 10Ah second battery.
My Hailong 48V 10Ah battery fits nicely between seat tube and rear fender and cost was about $200.
By adding a 10Ah second battery you can easily double the stock 10Ah battery range and adding larger batteries is obviously possible.
This is not a commercial endorsement, nor do I get compensation for plugging their product. I just think they’ve made the dual battery upgrade easy for the average rider.
Thanks!
I see you mentioned "all wheel". Does that add a battery and power to the other wheel or something? Can you tell me more about what you mentioned or give me a link to the product?
@@WaffleStomper69
ElectricAllWheel is the name of the dual battery kit manufacturer.
@@johnh.miller1112 I actually came across their video about it right after I commented on this, so I got the details and the link. Thank you for mentioning it.
Not exactly "doubling" the range due to the extra weight of the additional battery... but I see how this would be an advantage. Thanks.
I got 60 miles on my long range battery using PAS 2. I live in a very flat area, tires were at 33 psi and I'm 6'3" 225#. It was also over 100 degrees. Voltage was 43.something when I called it quits. Could have easily gone more miles.
Good to know...
I only got 22 miles with the long range at 90% of the distance PAS 3 and the other 10% distance at PAS 5 (28 mi/hr). I think the use of PAS 5 severely diminishes the range. I'm 200 lb with my pack on. Terrain was a mixture of asphalt and rocky trails. No severe hills. Temp was ~80 F. I'm disappointed in the range from the "Long Range Battery". Sounds like it is working for you.
Btw Chris Crossed the pak rak would be a better raised rack for your XP because it has slots for the turn signal attachment
Chris I ordered 2 of the XP2.0 and will be getting them today. No we live in Southern New England
and have a lot of hills. I went with Lectric primarily do to the company. I like the fact that the
company is a real brick and mortar. Not just a lot of folks in an office taking orders. I didn’t
buy the E Bikes ( bought 2 ) for just to use the bikes without peddling. But I really enjoyed
an honest review on how far you could go with the Long Range battery. And yes Ordered both
that way. Thanks again..
Well done sir!
Did you change your freewheel for better hill climbing?
It's clear that these bikes were not designed to be used with throttle only. Other brands do much better in that department. This is simply pedal assist with the throttle being useful on certain occasions when you need a short burst of quick speed.
You are correct, the Lectric is an ebike is not a moped. It is designed to meet Class 1, 2, & 3 ebike classifications. It is also an entry level ebike.
For the price is a good bike to have. If there was one the same price but can use the throttle more id be all over it.
@@oAPXo the base Super 73, which is the Z1, is close in price and is basically intended for using throttle more than pedaling. Problem it's that it's super low which makes pedaling difficult. I do like the 73 a lot but I'm going with the Lectric XP 3.0 long range
I agree with you, after 400 miles of riding my Lectric XP 2.0 and have never used the throttle once, PAS 2-3 works perfectly for me.
@ Pedro Fernandez: _"It's clear that these bikes were not designed to be used with throttle only."_
Agree. The pedal assist performance of the XP 3.0 is pretty good. But the throttle-only performance is disappointing. The acceleration in throttle-only mode is leisurely, and the top speed is significantly less than advertised. Typically around 18 mph; sometimes less. 😕
My old controller only read 53.8 max. New one goes to 54.6 on the same battery, so it just the controller reading being off. Put a voltmeter on the leads if you want an accurate reading.
ah, thanks
I finally got my 3.0 long range in the mail yesterday! And what I noticed on yours is I really like what you did with the handlebar grips, any chance you have a video link or website where your got them ? Or the clamp looking thing
The grips link is here: amzn.to/44E8im3
the handlebar set is from the @davidbrandnew channel. He sells them.
Wonder if it will take a few runs for the battery to condition itself and run longer.
Maybe, this was the very first charge
I hope for these style bikes someone comes out with a 20ah but try your test not exceeding 20mph
Real world test in Pas2/3 next
I can't wait to see a pedal assist test that's why I held off on the battery
Tomorrow
im looking at the 3.0 longe ranger , would that complete 25 mile on throttle only?
This is essentially the same ebike, if you weigh more than me (175lbs) you wont get there but somewhere in the low 20s probably.
that rear tire looks like its almost shot like mine. Got about 1000 miles, probably could have hit 1500 but dont want a flat in the middle of nowhere.
Nah it’s still good
So have you done the "real world" test using pedal assist? If so, you should put a link to it in the description.
Here’s the link Lectric Range Test - 14AH Battery - Real World Conditions
ua-cam.com/video/UHENZD4fVSw/v-deo.html
@@ChrisCrossed Thanks! 👍😊
Another video of yours, you said not to go below 43 volts ( that would give you 1 more mile to get home ). Also you said there is a chance it might not recharge again if you push it much past 43. Today you took your battery down to 41 volts. Please explain this because you are confusing me a bit. Thanking you in advance.
It’s not quite an exact science but once you go below 43 let’s just say you’d better get home quick
I ordered the long range battery it should arrive in 2 days
I rode mine in florida, all flat very little wind all throttle wide open factory settings. At 15 miles I was at about 44 so I might could have gotten 3-4 more miles max. That's with the stock 2.0 battery. BTW I'm 6' 200lbs.
You prob wouldve got 5 more or so. ElectricAllWheel.com has a cheap dual battery blender you can buy if you ever want to extend ur range.
What pas number?
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@jpop4415 I've owned several electric bikes and scooters and anytime I want to calculate how much miles I'll actually get I do about 40% of the stated miles because of my weight. They test the vehicle on some type of treadmill with no weight
How did you unlock the speed?
Thanks!
Watch this ua-cam.com/video/9k-bUBuPorU/v-deo.html
$500 - 14ah Long Range Battery - 25 Miles Full Throttle Only
$300 - 10ah Regular Battery - 18 Miles Full Throttle Only
I'm not sure the $500 price tag is justified. It should realistically be a $400 battery.
I got mine for 400 with their customer discount
@@ChrisCrossed Do you think they are still running that promo?
I have 11 miles on my 2.0 long range. This is truly disappointing, what do the originals get? Like 15 miles??
What level are you riding at
@@ChrisCrossed I have about 35 miles on my bike now. I mostly use pas3 and throttle occasionally. I would say i could get about 30 miles on a charge.
@@andrewcox7179 sounds about right
@@ChrisCrossed I don't normally ride farther than that anyways. But I would be disappointed if I had bought the regular 2.0 I think. Thanks for the great videos!
i always ride pas level 5.. ride the throttle like a mad man.. i have the xp long range battery.. i get maybe 12 miles at best before i get the one battery bar left.. prob cause im 230lbs.. lol
I'm only 200 lb with my backpack on. I only got 22 mi with 90% of the distance using PAS 3 (while pedaling) and only 10% at PAS 5 (while pedaling). Apparently that PAS5 really destroys the range.
It should be against the law to call a 14Ah battery long range. Lectric for starters needs a 750 motor, a more powerful controller... the 14Ah battery should be standard on their xp for 1k ... 80Nm of torque instead of 55Nm. Hydraulic brakes... theres many better options out there for 1k.
Like what exactly.
All that for 1k? Make and model, please!!
Mine reads 54.8 fully charged
Yeah that happens sometimes
As good as most reviews are, I wonder why they can't offer more than a 1 year warranty.
1 year is pretty standard for e-bikes in this price range
I think you got totally scammed buying that battery. I get the same mileage with my standard battery from AiPAS Bikes, the same company that manufactures the XP LITE, XP3, Cargo, and the Trike for Lectric and than adds their name and logo on it. 😂
My Rattan LN 750 had pretty good range (40 miles) on 13. ah battery.
Disappointing.. I have the XP 2.0 with standard battery and my Girlfriend just got the 2.0 with the higher capacity battery.
I think if i was on flat ground i could've hi 25 total. Real test will be to see if I can get 40 mi on PAS2/3 stay tuned.
Is it worth it?
For some folks who want to go farther I’d say yes, if you don’t do a lot of long rides stick with the 10.4
Shwinn ebikes are more comfortable to ride than the xp 3.0
The rang of these bikes are not good for a 500 watt motor
Keep in mind this was throttle only, i think their new controllers are more efficient.
You need to speak louder and a little faster. As another noted, the range needs to be tested all atr once, not broken up, and under what specific conditions: road surface, overall terrain, rider weight, etc. This was not a particularly informative video.
Today, the price of your battery is $500 and you can only ride for 22 miles, I think it's a scam!
Keep in mind that is throttle only.
One thing I really dislike about the XP, is that peddling feels more like drifting. I honestly almost always use full throttle because I don't get up to speed like on a normal nice street bike. Funny, you can easily hit 20MPH but I'm getting 24 on full throttle with petting that's only 4 MPH more. That and these bikes are really heavy, you are going to need a pump and sealant If you go long rang in case of flats.
on the battery...you probably have 1 or 2 weak cells.