The rotors are pretty thin and if they get glazed they will make noise. I found that scuffing them with 600 grit sand paper helps take the glaze off the rotor and quiets them down. Hope this helps .
Lectric seems to be a leader in the 20” fat tire segment, but it’s disappointing that once again a full suspension is still not present in there 3 series, but in actuality it’s 5 installment including the mid drive, and Lectric light which none have suspension in the back. It really makes a big difference. Once you feel the difference you’ll not accept a lesser comfort experience. I like Lectric, but I’m eagerly awaiting the “4th” installment in this particular model.
The original in my opinion is better than the latest 2 and 3.0. It's the holidays so they just pump out a bike but there's many better bikes on the market at this pricepoint now.
Yeah the 4 inch tires just make it look and feel bad a**. Haha. I think the sand colored "lite" is a cool little backup, but I wouldn't replace my original with it.
@@Srrrrrrr... plus even though the original is a 10 ah battery the cells used were too rated name brand cells in the originals but as Ebikes became so much more popular name brand cells have gotten harder to get so Lectric started using cheaper cells I have a original XP and my father has a 2.0 and my battery lasts alot longer when we ride together and I am 70 pounds heavier than my father.
After watching this video i purchased 2 of the xp 3.0 with 10 free accessories and long range batteey pack. Great content and info, keep up the great work.
Thanks again Jeremiah! Like you and others have noticed, the 11tooth freewheel's effect (along with new motor and controller) creates the scenario shown @23:28: cruising at 26-28mph (!!!) and easy pedaling with low tire and motor noise or strain, on a suspended folding bike with comfy (Cloud-9 or Selle Royal Drifter) seat. Being able to cruise at level 3 26-28mph means that you're able to get to where your going with satisfactory speed. In this mode, its' so much more enjoyable to be pedaling meaningfully (yet being able to rest). For e-bikers this is the Sweet-spot: e-bike nirvana. The other secret sauce of the XP 3.0 is that it does this (plus climbs hills adequately) on a "amp economical" 500 watt motor (i.e. efficient on battery drain). After seeing all the others, this is the one for me (white, step-through, 14ah pack).
Lot's of cool changes and details you point out here that I had not seen mentioned elsewhere. Just ordered my 3.0 today taking advantage of the Black Friday bundle deal plus added bigger battery, passenger kit, and crates at the sale price. Excited to try it on my commuting route.
Thanks Jeremiah I got up this morning waiting for a review on the 3.0 and I went right to your channel knowing that you were going to be testing this bike as soon as you received it I bought a 2.0 ST last year after watching 👀 your UA-cam videos now I think it's Time for a 3.0 to my collection thanks for everything you do for the ebike community and your great honest no holds barred reviews
I just got this bike. Delivery came today, so I got online to take a look at how to unpack it and put it together when I came across your video. I’m almost too bummed out to even bother getting it set up to take my first ride, because of those brakes! What a drag.
When I reviewed this bike initially, it came with mechanical brakes, but now they come with hydraulic brakes out of the box so they should be a lot better and easier to adjust . Lectric is one of the easiest bikes to assemble.
Thanks Jeremiah for all your input and correspondence via this channel and Instagram. We used your link and bought two of the 3.0. one low bar and the other regular with the comfort seats. Glad we waited a year and a half! Now looking forward to camping near towns this summer. Great reviews!
@@JeremiahMcintosh Yep, Yvonne just sent pictures. We are really impressed with Lectric's quality. Well built eBike. Smooth, powerful and packaged well. We put the two together in about an hour and a half and rode about 12 miles (2 hours before the rain using all pas modes and throttle only in roads and bike paths with hills 1/2 battery left and I weigh 190 lbs.. Solid and smooth. Folds up so will work great for camping etc.. too. Thanks for putting up with our crazy questions for the past year but you really gave us the initiative to purchase the 3.0.. see ya on the trails!
If you take off the grips and spray some hairspray on the inside and slide them on, when the hairspray dries it will not make them spin as much. Old motorcycle trick.
Cool advice, I’m a 62 year old E-biker and going to order this bike to add to my collection,but I’ve heard the grips are not stable. Thank you so much for the great tip of the hair spray. As a side note I grew up in Hollywood playing the clubs in the early 80s my girlfriend (wife of 41 years) and I went through a lot of hair spray. 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks I’m definitely doing this when my 3.0 gets here next week. I have the 2.0 but it broke down after 4000 miles in 8 months. But the cool part is lectric started sending me new parts last week to try and fix my 2.0. That’s why I decided to stay with them and get the 3.0
@@Milesco No worries. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but I've broken a lot of shit in my life and was too broke to get it fixed "professionally" LOL 🙂
Thanks Jeremiah for the thorough and honest review of the new 3.0 Lectric. I like the new super quiet motor and I don't really mind the noise from the brakes. If I had to choose I would rather have a quieter motor than brakes. At least they'll hear you coming when braking which is important to let others know you need to stop and to alert them. I'm curious to know when the new 3.0 will be available and what the price will be. Thanks again for the great review as usual. 👍
I appreciate your honest review in the 3.0 ad campaign, you earned a sub! I would like to see a comparison review of the Aniioki A7 Pro vs the Vitalin i7 pro as most bang for the buck.
I was wondering why some of the roads looked really familiar until you got up to the football stadium at the end. Realized it was my old college stomping grounds. However, fantastic and detailed video and I think you convinced me to go out and buy the new 3.0!
Jeremiah, Good news! I just watch another demo video of the 3.0, just to see if the brakes were as noisy and they weren’t!!! Not a big of noise! I’m sure Lectric will make it right with you! Gail
Dang, I just purchased my second Lectric bike over the summer. It's a 2.0.This looks so much better. Sort of makes me mad. I would have waited for this 3.0. Good vid tho Jeremiah.
We will ALL be mad. The bikes every 2 months get cheaper and cheaper. 4 years from now the 7.0 will come out with belt drive and internal gear hub with 1200W of power for $1500. We will pay a little more for a bike that's 3 times better.
I have a 2.0 and it has a 10.4 amp battery and it has gone 33 miles on pas 2 mostly but sometimes on pas 3..also have changed freewheel to a 11/34 ..it has gone 32.3 miles an hour on pas 5 and in 7th gear..great bike
I just ordered two Lectric XP 3.0 Long Range E-bikes based on your (this) review. which I found to be very thorough and informative. I also used your "Affiliate Link" to order the e-bikes, and other merch you recommended, so do you get any perks by people using these links? Anyway, I also ordered the Cloud 9 seats (which are seats I already had on my other e-bikes, so I knew they were comfortable and a good buy), I also ordered the Bike Handlebar Extenders, the Swept back Handlebars, and the Silicon Foam handgrips. So I wanted to thank you for recommending and providing these links, and I've subscribed to your (this) UA-cam page. Thanks again!!! Ed
As a senior dale that just bought this bike are you able to do a videop on how to get the chain back in if it falls off when you are out riding? Maybe how to tighten spokes and why you need to do that? I watch your videos all the time and you explain things well so I can understand.
Absolutely! the black Friday deal currently is an awesome deal. Please consider helping to support the channel by using the links in the description. Thank you!
@@JeremiahMcintosh We did! Got the bikes delivered Friday and tried mine on Sat and it had turned really cold, so just rode around the block. Took it for a little ride Monday, and Tuesday it snowed. Now I have two fully charged batteries and can't ride. Any thoughts on storing the bikes with a full battery or how to use the battery up a bit. It suggests storing bikes long term at 60%. So far they are inside but want to move them to the shed to store. Don't see how we can run the batteries down at this point. Thanks for your reviews. It helped us make our decision.
You can try setting the bike in the display to not turn off by itself then turn the lights on and leave them on for a while it would probably take a long time to drain the battery down this way but it should over time. I would not store the batteries at 100% I would drain them down some to around 60% and keep the batteries in heated storage.
@@JeremiahMcintosh yes. I was planning on removing the batteries and leaving them inside. Maybe we'll have a little warm spell and I can ride them in throttle for a long time. 🙂 I bought the extended batteries.
I bought one in December. Liked it so much that I bought a second one in January for my wife. The only thing I don’t like is the battery key. Both bikes are step through.
sounds like lectric did some good improvements on the 3.0 over my 2.0 i replaced my seat, pedals, free wheel to the 11-28, and rear brake caliper to the easy replacement hydraulic, keeping the cable and brake handle. i didn't replace my bars or grips, but perhaps i might, i do like the idea of my bars being wider, but not enough to do all the work to swap them. my 2.0 motor is very quiet as well, i think it might be variance, but i barely ever hear it. the original brakes however, they were super squeaky, and i didn't like that at all. maybe if you find a good replacement pad to address the squeakiness that might help, instead of replacing the entire caliper/system. i wouldn't mind having more power, but what i have is good enough so i haven't done anything with it. thanks again for your review video, if i didn't already have the 2.0, i think it would be good to wait for the 3.0 and get that instead, but even the 2.0 is a great ebike.
Have you heard if their has been any issues with cross border shipping into Alberta Canada…we are definitely interested in purchasing the upgraded 3.0 which presumably starts shipping in August 2023 Thanks Jeremiah…you are very knowledgeable with all these e-bike videos
Front brakes normally provide most of the stopping power. Since you are holding the camera, and couldn’t use the front brakes, I’m surprised the bike even stopped!
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Great job again on a very comprehensive look. 👍 I asked the guy putting out the Zota Zephyr folding ebike, if he could send you one of those models for review. He is a small US vet starting up here in the states. I just think this Zota Zephyr is worth checking out. It has some good stuff on it and a different but strong rear hub. Great battery with a nice gearing and controller. 👍 Hope you can arrange to do a review. I know you will do the best job possible 😁
I’m still driving my first model. Prototype I guess. It was so early that I had the rear carrier that scraped on fender. I tried to get them to replace it but they made me pay for it. I had to send in money for my bike before any had been made. So I’m one of the first owners. It’s still running good.
Great review and video work! Please tell me about the 'hydraulic lockout' mechanism you mention... what was it like compared to the new spring lockout? Are the new shocks considered 'oil shocks?
Great true review.. our xp 1.0’s and new Xd lites have always squeaked. Electric website said it’s normal first I think 60 miles ..umm I don’t think that’s normal at all.
Yes, everyone that bought the original 3.0 has the option to get a free set of hydraulic brakes which is amazing and the new shipments will have them on already.
It would be great to see solid-state batteries hit the market for e-bikes and e-moto bikes, this would cut the weight by 50%, and have room to expand battery pack size, giving ranges of 2k + !!!
I have always been tempted to get an e-bike but what stops me in my tracks is the (albeit rare) stories of lithium-ion battery thermal runaway especially when charging so If i do get one I will have to keep it outside away from the house while charging, and even when not charging. electric battery technology has to make the Li-ion batts more stable (gel vs liquid electrolyte) and the casing sturdier because even Teslas burn houses down and cremate passengers/drivers when something goes awry.
Love the channel! Even with it almost failing your hill test - would you take the 3.0 over others that passed the test strongly ? Looking to make first ebike purchase Keep up the great work thanks for your videos
Yeah, I find the torque output of the XP 3.0 to be less than awe-inspiring. Acceleration in throttle-only mode is modest and top speed is only about 17.5 to 18 mph. Performance in pedal-assist mode is pretty good, although to get past 25 mph you have to put in quite a bit of physical effort. Similarly, hill climbing is satisfactory (within reason) in pedal-assist mode in lower gears, but there again, throttle-only mode is not what I would use for that.
Great video. I've held off purchasing the 2.0, am seriously considering the 3.0. The brake loudness is a problem for me. I'll wait a little longer to see if there's a fix for it. Please let us know if you come up with a fix. Different pads might be the solution, but then you have to know how to replace them and calibrate them.
You’re welcome just so you know this was before they included hydraulic brakes. They will now have hydraulic brakes installed on the current model shipping!
PLEASE keep up with the videos. Love them. ?,you mentioned the noise brakes. To your knowledge have they change the pads or improved that on the newer bikes?
I'm 6'1" and I have a step thru lectric xp 2.0, there are times where I feel my feet scrape the ground(size 13 shoe) if I dont actively keep them in the proper position and when taking turns if I don't pull the turn side pedal up it can scrape as well. Someone taller like you id definitely recommend not getting the step thru version. They are fantastic bikes though and even if you weigh over 330lbs it'll pull you right along.
Hey great review. I just got mine and rode it for the first time today. The brakes are SOOOO noisy it's kinda infuriating. A brand new bike shouldn't have brakes like these. Do you know how to fix this? Also, the regular battery is pretty weak. I was almost out after about 23 miles of riding using mostly PAS 3, and some 4. Mostly flat terrain and normal conditions, so I'm pretty disappointed thinking I should've gotten the long range. Anyways, really hoping I'll start loving this bike. I have to lol
They still squeak but it’s bearable. They will now come with hydraulic brakes and are sending everyone that bought a 3.0 the hydraulic brake kit for free which is amazing!
I notice you didn't get the Seat post suspension or Elite headlight thats included free with the Black Friday comfort package. I'd value your opinion on those and if they make any difference.
If you can get the comfort package free with a bike it’s a great deal but if you were to buy it there are better cheaper options on Amazon in my opinion.
@@wendycol8354 Congratulations Wendy, May you have many trouble-free years with your new bike! Our friend, Jeremiah is a great friend to have, as well as the whole 'Lectric Community' and there's a bunch out there...!
@@JeremiahMcintosh Oh, for sure! I recently saw a married couple who both had the stock seat break off, causing them to crash. The guy still has a dislocated thumb over it... I've 'bookmarked' many of your links for accessories. Do we add #JeremiahMcintosh to any of them to include you? or do we have to follow links from your videos?
Just found your while researching e-bikes, looks like you’re from the burgh, correct? We’re transplanted to Florida from Zelienople. I used to work in Latrobe, Ligonier (Chestnut Ridge) and up at the “Springs”. Looking forward to watching more of your stuff. Go Bucs!
Great Video! Nice to see they keep expanding the line. How would this compare to the Xpremium? I am thinking of getting the Xpremium model thinking Mid drive would be better for me. If you had to pick Xpremium or XP 3.0 what would it be?
Personally I would pick the 3.0 because I like smaller lighter bikes that are easier to transport for camping and maneuverability but everyone has different needs. If I were just to ride it around home and never have to transport it then I would probably change my mind to the xpremium.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Thanks for the reply. I ended up getting the X premium because it will be my daily commuter. I wanted something with a little more power and longer range but the ability to fold if needed.
The Hub motors are more fun, I have two of them. I ride my Xpremium the most because I want a little exercise. I weigh 280 lbs and my ass gets sore before I run out of battery. The Xpremium is a really big bike. The Tires are fatter on the Xpremium. My hub motor bikes don't go as far.
You don't look like you're getting full leg extension and power. Did you have the seat lower so as to capture footage of the cockpit? Or is it problematic to find a seat height for efficient cycling?
Thanks so much for you excellent content. Great help to us getting going on our Lectric 3.0. I watched your video on changiong the power to 100 on P8, havent notice any significant difference. Wonder if I missed a step in the programming.. My petite wife and both on it look like circus people , so she is likely to get her own lite or 2.0.Suggestions?
Hey Scott Glad to see it helped you out! You will not notice a difference if your using throttle because the throttle will always limit it to 20mph. Just pedal without throttle and you should be able to reach higher speeds when p8 is set to 100.
That brake squeal is fixable. Gotta remove the pads and put a small bit of brake pad grease (or silicone) on the back side of the pads that touch the piston. EDIT: do NOT put the grease on the side of the pad that touches the disc!!!
@@beazy96 - well it’s either that, pack it up and send it back, or live with the noise. Doing this job accomplishes fixing the problem and getting to know your machine - and it’s way less work than packing it back up.
Is there a difference in pedaling between the Standard and the Step-thru?? I know the Step-thru pedals are lower. If there is a difference, which is better?
The brake noise is surely an issue. It must be the type of brake pads they are using. You could easily replace the brakes with a hydraulic cable brake system. I did this on the 1.0 and 2.0, my X premium already has these brakes but are truly hydraulic. Even with my X Premium, I changed out the freewheel. The funny question that I have is, this is not a dirt bike why do they put knobby tires that are meant for dirt. Most people ride on the street on paved bike paths.
I have the trike but I miss control of two wheel. But I need to be able to put feet to ground when stopped and sitting and I’m 4’11”. Do you know if a person of that height can touch ground while sitting.
I'm curious about the range for those of us who travel with more weight. I'm 210 pounds. I have the front and back baskets. My lock is 10 pounds and travel to work with a 15 pound backpack. I ride a 2.0 with 1800 on it miles and used to get around 17 miles on a charge. Now I get about 13.
What PAS do you ride in? I have a 2.0 with the extended battery and when I do bike rides in PAS 2( which is 11mph) I get 36-40 miles out of my battery.... and I weigh 276 lbs and when I started I was 330lbs and was still getting about 30-33 miles on a charge. PAS 3 I still get over 17 though, not sure why your range is significantly less..
@@WhiteRaven___ I'm a commuter, not a pleasure rider. I ride 12 miles per weekday in three mile stints. I ride in PAS 5 and 7th gear at 22-25mph. Just passed 2000 miles on the odometer last week. My range is about where Lectric eBikes estimates for my usage.
Height wise I think you will be fine but Here is a video of my father in law riding the 2.0 and he is 6’6” it’s the same size as the 3.0. ua-cam.com/video/O0AILkkA-MQ/v-deo.html
With steady pedal rotation, I'm getting a "pulse" of power at "once-per-pedal rotation" instead of constant power ? Seems like the motor is being turned on infrequently instead of repeatedly as it passes "sensors". It's more noticeable in PAS settings of 3 and above. I've tried modifying P11 to various values but no change. Thanks in advance.
What is your recomendation I am looking at the lectric xp long range 3.0, rad expand 5.0 and the engwe engine pro. I like the shocks on the engwe and higher motor raitings but would love to get opinion from someone thay has used them
I'm wondering if the stopping power with mechanical brakes is adequate for rider and passenger pushing the maximum load, coming off a hill at 20+mph...? Do you have a video and link on a hydraulic brake upgrade to the Lectric bikes?
@@JeremiahMcintosh Hmmm... 🤔... I wonder what a full hydraulic conversion would entail? Prolly easier to get the T42 version of the XP3.0 for the $738 sale price?
Last question before I buy on your recommendation. The long range is currently on sale for $1150 with 14 AH battery. I'm thinking of buying the standard range with 10.4 and then a spare 10.4 = 20.8 AH for For $1300. Thoughts please.
My question is do you really need that much range? The only thing I would say is it is kind of a pain to carry extra batteries on your ride and a larger battery will maintain a higher voltage longer throughout the first half of the ride. Not sure your situation, but you may find the long range battery to be enough range. I’ve also seen the 10 amp hour batteries go on sale from time to time but usually not the long range batteries. Honestly, tough decision lol
Thank you for this great video! I purchased a 3.0 yesterday as my first e-bike and this half-hour review was extremely informative. I definitely want to get some of the accessories you have in the description but some of the links (like for the Cloud 9 seat) are to products that are no longer available. That's not a critique; it's the opposite, actually. You did a great video and I'd like to follow links from here to return the favor (in a small way).
That’s great to hear and thank you for letting me know about the links. I’ll have to update them but it looks like amazon is currently out of that seat. Enjoy!
The only place you can purchase them is directly through their website. If you open up the description of the video with the arrow next to the video title there will be links in there to their official website and it will help support the channel if you use those links at no extra cost to you. Thanks I’m advance and please let me know if you have any other questions.
I just purchased mine a week ago and I have put 7 miles on it and I could feel the pedal assist starting to act up and within a few minutes it was working at all. The throttle still works but I have no pedal assist. Do you know what might have caused it to stop working
Could be a loose connection on the pas sensor, the display or possibly the controller. I would reach out to Lectric and let them know what’s going on with it.
Impressive, but if they could mount a rack on the front for another person.....that would hold a small family.... Seriously, I purchased the xp2 and upgraded the sprocket and racks with your help from a previous video--wish I would have waited to order this.... I’m thinking about it..
The bottle cage I use actually straps on the handlebar stem and I got it from Walmart for like eight bucks. I would recommend a set of bar and mirrors those typically work well and allow you to see around yourself easier.
@@JeremiahMcintosh I bought the Lectric mirrors and am disappointed that we have to use a hammer to remove the end caps to place them in. Plus they look a little small.
my guy lives in a dream world, anyone see the sunshine and the leaves as he rose up that hill for the first time, wow, man is living a beautiful life
I'm glad that more companies are taking Rad Power's lead and going with a 20"x3" tire rather than the 4".
The rotors are pretty thin and if they get glazed they will make noise. I found that scuffing them with 600 grit sand paper helps take the glaze off the rotor and quiets them down. Hope this helps .
You should not have to do this to a new bike.
Awesome. I didn't know there was a 3.0 now. I still have my 1.0. Almost 2800 miles on it. 😊
Nice! I’ve still got my 1.0 with 210.
Lectric seems to be a leader in the 20” fat tire segment, but it’s disappointing that once again a full suspension is still not present in there 3 series, but in actuality it’s 5 installment including the mid drive, and Lectric light which none have suspension in the back. It really makes a big difference. Once you feel the difference you’ll not accept a lesser comfort experience. I like Lectric, but I’m eagerly awaiting the “4th” installment in this particular model.
The original in my opinion is better than the latest 2 and 3.0.
It's the holidays so they just pump out a bike but there's many better bikes on the market at this pricepoint now.
Yeah the 4 inch tires just make it look and feel bad a**. Haha.
I think the sand colored "lite" is a cool little backup, but I wouldn't replace my original with it.
@@Srrrrrrr... plus even though the original is a 10 ah battery the cells used were too rated name brand cells in the originals but as Ebikes became so much more popular name brand cells have gotten harder to get so Lectric started using cheaper cells
I have a original XP and my father has a 2.0 and my battery lasts alot longer when we ride together and I am 70 pounds heavier than my father.
They just dropped the 3.0 and you Have all ready reviewed it. I’m getting it.
It’s currently an excellent deal!
After watching this video i purchased 2 of the xp 3.0 with 10 free accessories and long range batteey pack. Great content and info, keep up the great work.
Thank you! Glad you were able to get a great deal!
Thanks again Jeremiah! Like you and others have noticed, the 11tooth freewheel's effect (along with new motor and controller) creates the scenario shown @23:28: cruising at 26-28mph (!!!) and easy pedaling with low tire and motor noise or strain, on a suspended folding bike with comfy (Cloud-9 or Selle Royal Drifter) seat. Being able to cruise at level 3 26-28mph means that you're able to get to where your going with satisfactory speed. In this mode, its' so much more enjoyable to be pedaling meaningfully (yet being able to rest). For e-bikers this is the Sweet-spot: e-bike nirvana. The other secret sauce of the XP 3.0 is that it does this (plus climbs hills adequately) on a "amp economical" 500 watt motor (i.e. efficient on battery drain). After seeing all the others, this is the one for me (white, step-through, 14ah pack).
The freewheel is a huge upgrade. Made my 2.0 into a faster traveling bike for trips in the cold winter.
Agreed!
Lot's of cool changes and details you point out here that I had not seen mentioned elsewhere. Just ordered my 3.0 today taking advantage of the Black Friday bundle deal plus added bigger battery, passenger kit, and crates at the sale price. Excited to try it on my commuting route.
Thanks Jeremiah I got up this morning waiting for a review on the 3.0 and I went right to your channel knowing that you were going to be testing this bike as soon as you received it I bought a 2.0 ST last year after watching 👀 your UA-cam videos now I think it's Time for a 3.0 to my collection thanks for everything you do for the ebike community and your great honest no holds barred reviews
Thank You for being part of my channel Philip. I appreciate you!
Just bought the 3.0 through your link. Could not resist the Black Friday special. Thanks for the helpful review.
Congrats and Thank You for the support! It’s a great deal!
I just got this bike. Delivery came today, so I got online to take a look at how to unpack it and put it together when I came across your video. I’m almost too bummed out to even bother getting it set up to take my first ride, because of those brakes! What a drag.
When I reviewed this bike initially, it came with mechanical brakes, but now they come with hydraulic brakes out of the box so they should be a lot better and easier to adjust . Lectric is one of the easiest bikes to assemble.
Thanks Jeremiah for all your input and correspondence via this channel and Instagram. We used your link and bought two of the 3.0. one low bar and the other regular with the comfort seats. Glad we waited a year and a half! Now looking forward to camping near towns this summer. Great reviews!
Awesome that’s great to hear and Thank you!
@@JeremiahMcintosh Yep, Yvonne just sent pictures. We are really impressed with Lectric's quality. Well built eBike. Smooth, powerful and packaged well. We put the two together in about an hour and a half and rode about 12 miles (2 hours before the rain using all pas modes and throttle only in roads and bike paths with hills 1/2 battery left and I weigh 190 lbs.. Solid and smooth. Folds up so will work great for camping etc.. too. Thanks for putting up with our crazy questions for the past year but you really gave us the initiative to purchase the 3.0.. see ya on the trails!
Awesome and happy to help! Glad you love them!
I have the 2.0 and just ordered the 3.0 long range off your link. Thanks for the video and all the info contained in it
Thank you for the support!
If you take off the grips and spray some hairspray on the inside and slide them on, when the hairspray dries it will not make them spin as much. Old motorcycle trick.
Cool advice, I’m a 62 year old E-biker and going to order this bike to add to my collection,but I’ve heard the grips are not stable. Thank you so much for the great tip of the hair spray.
As a side note I grew up in Hollywood playing the clubs in the early 80s my girlfriend (wife of 41 years) and I went through a lot of hair spray. 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks I’m definitely doing this when my 3.0 gets here next week. I have the 2.0 but it broke down after 4000 miles in 8 months. But the cool part is lectric started sending me new parts last week to try and fix my 2.0. That’s why I decided to stay with them and get the 3.0
@ Chris: Thanks for the tip! Good to know! 👍
@@Milesco No worries. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but I've broken a lot of shit in my life and was too broke to get it fixed "professionally" LOL 🙂
White Rain in a pump bottle.. great for hand grips
Thanks Jeremiah for the thorough and honest review of the new 3.0 Lectric. I like the new super quiet motor and I don't really mind the noise from the brakes. If I had to choose I would rather have a quieter motor than brakes. At least they'll hear you coming when braking which is important to let others know you need to stop and to alert them. I'm curious to know when the new 3.0 will be available and what the price will be. Thanks again for the great review as usual. 👍
It’s available now for $999. Please see the link in the description of the video.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Any idea what the typical wait time is after ordering?
Not sure because it always changes but just reach out to them and ask them.
I appreciate your honest review in the 3.0 ad campaign, you earned a sub! I would like to see a comparison review of the Aniioki A7 Pro vs the Vitalin i7 pro as most bang for the buck.
Thank you for your suggestion however I do not have either of those bikes to compare.
I was wondering why some of the roads looked really familiar until you got up to the football stadium at the end. Realized it was my old college stomping grounds.
However, fantastic and detailed video and I think you convinced me to go out and buy the new 3.0!
🤣 Thanks Jarred. If you do decide to get one please consider using the link in the description to help support the channel!
Jeremiah, Good news! I just watch another demo video of the 3.0, just to see if the brakes were as noisy and they weren’t!!! Not a big of noise! I’m sure Lectric will make it right with you! Gail
That’s great to hear or not to hear lol. Hopefully it’s just a fluke with the bike I got to test.
Looks like a nice fall day there, 2 weeks ago it was nice here too. In fact 5 days ago it was 77 degrees, then this morning it snowed !
Yep same here!
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the super thanks @tikesr Your generosity is greatly appreciated!!
Dang, I just purchased my second Lectric bike over the summer. It's a 2.0.This looks so much better. Sort of makes me mad. I would have waited for this 3.0. Good vid tho Jeremiah.
We will ALL be mad. The bikes every 2 months get cheaper and cheaper. 4 years from now the 7.0 will come out with belt drive and internal gear hub with 1200W of power for $1500. We will pay a little more for a bike that's 3 times better.
This video is very early in the morning.. Good job. I like the things you covered..👍
I have a 2.0 and it has a 10.4 amp battery and it has gone 33 miles on pas 2 mostly but sometimes on pas 3..also have changed freewheel to a 11/34 ..it has gone 32.3 miles an hour on pas 5 and in 7th gear..great bike
Awsome ride Jeremiah thanks for all your hard work ...Lectric do something about the brakes 🤣🤣
I just ordered two Lectric XP 3.0 Long Range E-bikes based on your (this) review. which I found to be very thorough and informative. I also used your "Affiliate Link" to order the e-bikes, and other merch you recommended, so do you get any perks by people using these links? Anyway, I also ordered the Cloud 9 seats (which are seats I already had on my other e-bikes, so I knew they were comfortable and a good buy), I also ordered the Bike Handlebar Extenders, the Swept back Handlebars, and the Silicon Foam handgrips. So I wanted to thank you for recommending and providing these links, and I've subscribed to your (this) UA-cam page. Thanks again!!! Ed
As a senior dale that just bought this bike are you able to do a videop on how to get the chain back in if it falls off when you are out riding? Maybe how to tighten spokes and why you need to do that? I watch your videos all the time and you explain things well so I can understand.
Great timing as we haven't purchased yet.. may very well go with this one. Great deals going on with package.
Absolutely! the black Friday deal currently is an awesome deal. Please consider helping to support the channel by using the links in the description. Thank you!
@@JeremiahMcintosh We did! Got the bikes delivered Friday and tried mine on Sat and it had turned really cold, so just rode around the block. Took it for a little ride Monday, and Tuesday it snowed. Now I have two fully charged batteries and can't ride.
Any thoughts on storing the bikes with a full battery or how to use the battery up a bit. It suggests storing bikes long term at 60%. So far they are inside but want to move them to the shed to store. Don't see how we can run the batteries down at this point.
Thanks for your reviews. It helped us make our decision.
You can try setting the bike in the display to not turn off by itself then turn the lights on and leave them on for a while it would probably take a long time to drain the battery down this way but it should over time. I would not store the batteries at 100% I would drain them down some to around 60% and keep the batteries in heated storage.
@@JeremiahMcintosh yes. I was planning on removing the batteries and leaving them inside. Maybe we'll have a little warm spell and I can ride them in throttle for a long time. 🙂
I bought the extended batteries.
I bought one in December. Liked it so much that I bought a second one in January for my wife. The only thing I don’t like is the battery key. Both bikes are step through.
Glad you are enjoying them! Happy trails!
dang, too many hills in my hood for that! Thank you for your honest review.
sounds like lectric did some good improvements on the 3.0 over my 2.0
i replaced my seat, pedals, free wheel to the 11-28, and rear brake caliper to the easy replacement hydraulic, keeping the cable and brake handle.
i didn't replace my bars or grips, but perhaps i might, i do like the idea of my bars being wider, but not enough to do all the work to swap them.
my 2.0 motor is very quiet as well, i think it might be variance, but i barely ever hear it. the original brakes however, they were super squeaky, and i didn't like that at all. maybe if you find a good replacement pad to address the squeakiness that might help, instead of replacing the entire caliper/system.
i wouldn't mind having more power, but what i have is good enough so i haven't done anything with it.
thanks again for your review video, if i didn't already have the 2.0, i think it would be good to wait for the 3.0 and get that instead, but even the 2.0 is a great ebike.
Have you heard if their has been any issues with cross border shipping into Alberta Canada…we are definitely interested in purchasing the upgraded 3.0 which presumably starts shipping in August 2023
Thanks Jeremiah…you are very knowledgeable with all these e-bike videos
They been watching everyone changing the freewheel. 👍😎👏
Front brakes normally provide most of the stopping power. Since you are holding the camera, and couldn’t use the front brakes, I’m surprised the bike even stopped!
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Great job again on a very comprehensive look. 👍 I asked the guy putting out the Zota Zephyr folding ebike, if he could send you one of those models for review. He is a small US vet starting up here in the states. I just think this Zota Zephyr is worth checking out. It has some good stuff on it and a different but strong rear hub. Great battery with a nice gearing and controller. 👍 Hope you can arrange to do a review. I know you will do the best job possible 😁
Hey, thank you for the recommendation. I really appreciate it! I’ve never heard of it I’ll I have to check it out.
I’m still driving my first model. Prototype I guess. It was so early that I had the rear carrier that scraped on fender. I tried to get them to replace it but they made me pay for it. I had to send in money for my bike before any had been made. So I’m one of the first owners. It’s still running good.
I still have my first one as well!
You live in a beautiful area and a great one for e-biking.
Could you find out if a 4’11” person could be sitting and still touch ground.
Great review and video work! Please tell me about the 'hydraulic lockout' mechanism you mention... what was it like compared to the new spring lockout? Are the new shocks considered 'oil shocks?
Great true review.. our xp 1.0’s and new Xd lites have always squeaked. Electric website said it’s normal first I think 60 miles ..umm I don’t think that’s normal at all.
I’ve tested many bikes that had quiet brakes right out of the box and some that have squealed really bad 🤷
Very thorough review. Thank you!
I would buy one of these in a heartbeat but in the U.K. and they don’t export them here. Great review of a great bike.
Sorry you have to miss out on this deal.
I heard they change to have hydraulic brakes on the 3. The Xpedition cargo bike already had them. Lectric keeps improving things.
Yes, everyone that bought the original 3.0 has the option to get a free set of hydraulic brakes which is amazing and the new shipments will have them on already.
It would be great to see solid-state batteries hit the market for e-bikes and e-moto bikes, this would cut the weight by 50%, and have room to expand battery pack size, giving ranges of 2k + !!!
I have always been tempted to get an e-bike but what stops me in my tracks is the (albeit rare) stories of lithium-ion battery thermal runaway especially when charging so If i do get one I will have to keep it outside away from the house while charging, and even when not charging. electric battery technology has to make the Li-ion batts more stable (gel vs liquid electrolyte) and the casing sturdier because even Teslas burn houses down and cremate passengers/drivers when something goes awry.
So exactly how many houses have been caught on fire due to Lectric batteries failing?
Great video thanks for the insight fam! 💯
As usual....beautifully done test.....
Love the channel! Even with it almost failing your hill test - would you take the 3.0 over others that passed the test strongly ? Looking to make first ebike purchase
Keep up the great work thanks for your videos
Yeah, I find the torque output of the XP 3.0 to be less than awe-inspiring. Acceleration in throttle-only mode is modest and top speed is only about 17.5 to 18 mph.
Performance in pedal-assist mode is pretty good, although to get past 25 mph you have to put in quite a bit of physical effort.
Similarly, hill climbing is satisfactory (within reason) in pedal-assist mode in lower gears, but there again, throttle-only mode is not what I would use for that.
Great video. I've held off purchasing the 2.0, am seriously considering the 3.0. The brake loudness is a problem for me. I'll wait a little longer to see if there's a fix for it. Please let us know if you come up with a fix. Different pads might be the solution, but then you have to know how to replace them and calibrate them.
You could just change the brake pad or brakes themselves.
Keep the 1.0. It is the best one of the four models.
@@webchez69 What is that based on?
You change the pads lol. Breaks should be the least of your worries on a Ebike lol
@@DabnAllDay I have and will if need be lol.
Awesome review Jeremiah! Thx
You’re welcome just so you know this was before they included hydraulic brakes. They will now have hydraulic brakes installed on the current model shipping!
Do you like Jasion Hunter better?
Good video and review, thank you, I'll check it out 👍👌
PLEASE keep up with the videos. Love them. ?,you mentioned the noise brakes. To your knowledge have they change the pads or improved that on the newer bikes?
On the 3.0 I’m not sure but they are way better on the Cargo bike!
They were upgrading peoples brakes for free. Maybe the new ones are better.
Yes they are definitely better.
Is it possible change the fat tires to regular tires?
Trying to reduce the weight/size of the bike for easier transport on train..
The Lectric bikes are bulky and heavy even when folded. Something like a Buzz Bike is a little more portable.
Right at 29:48 in the video, there was a popping sound and a large spark/flash in the rear wheel right behind your left foot.
That was the reflector in the rear wheel reflecting the sunlight off of some thing probably the lens of my GoPro that I was holding out.
Good video, thanks. Being 6'3" I just don't know if this bike is for me?
I'm 6'1" and I have a step thru lectric xp 2.0, there are times where I feel my feet scrape the ground(size 13 shoe) if I dont actively keep them in the proper position and when taking turns if I don't pull the turn side pedal up it can scrape as well. Someone taller like you id definitely recommend not getting the step thru version. They are fantastic bikes though and even if you weigh over 330lbs it'll pull you right along.
Hey great review. I just got mine and rode it for the first time today. The brakes are SOOOO noisy it's kinda infuriating. A brand new bike shouldn't have brakes like these. Do you know how to fix this? Also, the regular battery is pretty weak. I was almost out after about 23 miles of riding using mostly PAS 3, and some 4. Mostly flat terrain and normal conditions, so I'm pretty disappointed thinking I should've gotten the long range. Anyways, really hoping I'll start loving this bike. I have to lol
I haven’t had time to mess with them yet but I’m going to wait a while to see if they quiet some over time.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Any update on how the brake noise has gotten over time? Or maybe did you try changing pads?
They still squeak but it’s bearable. They will now come with hydraulic brakes and are sending everyone that bought a 3.0 the hydraulic brake kit for free which is amazing!
I notice you didn't get the Seat post suspension or Elite headlight thats included free with the Black Friday comfort package. I'd value your opinion on those and if they make any difference.
I haven't done any real riding but the light seems pretty good. It's got a wide beam.
Just got my bike last week.
If you can get the comfort package free with a bike it’s a great deal but if you were to buy it there are better cheaper options on Amazon in my opinion.
@@wendycol8354 Congratulations Wendy, May you have many trouble-free years with your new bike! Our friend, Jeremiah is a great friend to have, as well as the whole 'Lectric Community' and there's a bunch out there...!
@@JeremiahMcintosh Oh, for sure! I recently saw a married couple who both had the stock seat break off, causing them to crash. The guy still has a dislocated thumb over it... I've 'bookmarked' many of your links for accessories. Do we add #JeremiahMcintosh to any of them to include you? or do we have to follow links from your videos?
John thank you for wanting to help support the channel. You have to use my links directly from my channel.
Just found your while researching e-bikes, looks like you’re from the burgh, correct? We’re transplanted to Florida from Zelienople. I used to work in Latrobe, Ligonier (Chestnut Ridge) and up at the “Springs”. Looking forward to watching more of your stuff. Go Bucs!
Dang, I want this bike!
I would just take the brake pads off and take a file to the edge of them make it so it's not a square so that way when it vibrates it won't squeak
Most people don't have the skills or ability to do this. Bike should be ready to run out of the box.
Will they have an attachment where my small dog can ride in the back and/or front?
Comprehensive review!
Thanks for an excellent video
Great Video! Nice to see they keep expanding the line. How would this compare to the Xpremium? I am thinking of getting the Xpremium model thinking Mid drive would be better for me. If you had to pick Xpremium or XP 3.0 what would it be?
Personally I would pick the 3.0 because I like smaller lighter bikes that are easier to transport for camping and maneuverability but everyone has different needs. If I were just to ride it around home and never have to transport it then I would probably change my mind to the xpremium.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Thanks for the reply. I ended up getting the X premium because it will be my daily commuter. I wanted something with a little more power and longer range but the ability to fold if needed.
The Hub motors are more fun, I have two of them. I ride my Xpremium the most because I want a little exercise. I weigh 280 lbs and my ass gets sore before I run out of battery. The Xpremium is a really big bike. The Tires are fatter on the Xpremium. My hub motor bikes don't go as far.
I have the exp2 I have a news the bike yet I would like to have a video of how to set the computer to ride the bike thank you very much
You don't look like you're getting full leg extension and power. Did you have the seat lower so as to capture footage of the cockpit? Or is it problematic to find a seat height for efficient cycling?
Yeah I typically film with my seat low because it’s easier. There is plenty of adjustment on seat height if needed.
Comfortable for 6’2” riders?
Thanks so much for you excellent content. Great help to us getting going on our Lectric 3.0. I watched your video on changiong the power to 100 on P8, havent notice any significant difference. Wonder if I missed a step in the programming.. My petite wife and both on it look like circus people , so she is likely to get her own lite or 2.0.Suggestions?
Hey Scott Glad to see it helped you out! You will not notice a difference if your using throttle because the throttle will always limit it to 20mph. Just pedal without throttle and you should be able to reach higher speeds when p8 is set to 100.
I like this bike but would like a lite weight bike with a belt verses a chain and one that folds in half. Any suggestions? Thank you, Marilyn
Check out the Black Lectric lite, you can get that one with a belt and it’s fairly lightweight.
What app are you using on the phone to track speed etc?
That brake squeal is fixable. Gotta remove the pads and put a small bit of brake pad grease (or silicone) on the back side of the pads that touch the piston. EDIT: do NOT put the grease on the side of the pad that touches the disc!!!
You should not have to do this. It should be good to go out of the box.
@@beazy96 - well it’s either that, pack it up and send it back, or live with the noise. Doing this job accomplishes fixing the problem and getting to know your machine - and it’s way less work than packing it back up.
Where did you get your mirrors
Is there a difference in pedaling between the Standard and the Step-thru?? I know the Step-thru pedals are lower. If there is a difference, which is better?
Just ordered the xp 3.0 long range Great video what iPhone app are you using for your gps speed. Thanks Jerry
It’s just called speedometer. If you used my affiliate link to purchase thank you for the support!
@@JeremiahMcintosh I have ordered a couple from your list thank you .
I've had my 3.0 for about a month now, and honestly, those loud brakes have been my only complaint. Hoping for an updated accessories list!
I ordered mine and it's going to arrive next week I read that if you bed the brakes when you first get it it solves the problem, did you do this ?
Thanks alot! How do you change the display to read amps output? Happy Trails !
Just cycle through with the mode button
LECTRIC XP 3.0 not the step-through VS Rattan LM plz can we get this video or which one would you buy
The brake noise is surely an issue. It must be the type of brake pads they are using. You could easily replace the brakes with a hydraulic cable brake system. I did this on the 1.0 and 2.0, my X premium already has these brakes but are truly hydraulic. Even with my X Premium, I changed out the freewheel. The funny question that I have is, this is not a dirt bike why do they put knobby tires that are meant for dirt. Most people ride on the street on paved bike paths.
Rv’s are a huge market for them
The brake noise sucks on this bike. I would go with Aventon or something else.
I have the trike but I miss control of two wheel. But I need to be able to put feet to ground when stopped and sitting and I’m 4’11”. Do you know if a person of that height can touch ground while sitting.
I'm curious about the range for those of us who travel with more weight. I'm 210 pounds. I have the front and back baskets. My lock is 10 pounds and travel to work with a 15 pound backpack. I ride a 2.0 with 1800 on it miles and used to get around 17 miles on a charge. Now I get about 13.
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@@mitchwood6609 funny man! Same for me? I go 260 and am thinking about an ebike. Is their a Clydesdale model?? Lol
What PAS do you ride in? I have a 2.0 with the extended battery and when I do bike rides in PAS 2( which is 11mph) I get 36-40 miles out of my battery.... and I weigh 276 lbs and when I started I was 330lbs and was still getting about 30-33 miles on a charge. PAS 3 I still get over 17 though, not sure why your range is significantly less..
@@WhiteRaven___ I'm a commuter, not a pleasure rider. I ride 12 miles per weekday in three mile stints. I ride in PAS 5 and 7th gear at 22-25mph. Just passed 2000 miles on the odometer last week. My range is about where Lectric eBikes estimates for my usage.
Enjoyed your ride. I was wondering what your so thoughts are about someone having both knees done,do you think the seat could be raised?
Yes the seatpost can be raised. I thought I put the measurements in the video but maybe I forgot?
So did the brakes stop the bike or there no good, not worth the upgrade?
Lectric bikes are no good. The brakes suck out of the box.
If you had $1500 to $2000 to spend on a bike today what would you buy? Thanks
Aventon bikes are the best. Look at the reviews.
Is that true that the battery is very hard to take it out?
No, it's not hard to remove the battery, but of course you have to open up the bike and fold it and then turn the key to the unlock position.
Great review. Thank you so much.
Question... I am 6'2" and I am Wonder if I am to tall for this bike. What are your thoughts on this matter?
Height wise I think you will be fine but Here is a video of my father in law riding the 2.0 and he is 6’6” it’s the same size as the 3.0. ua-cam.com/video/O0AILkkA-MQ/v-deo.html
With steady pedal rotation, I'm getting a "pulse" of power at "once-per-pedal rotation" instead of constant power ? Seems like the motor is being turned on infrequently instead of repeatedly as it passes "sensors". It's more noticeable in PAS settings of 3 and above. I've tried modifying P11 to various values but no change. Thanks in advance.
What is your recomendation I am looking at the lectric xp long range 3.0, rad expand 5.0 and the engwe engine pro. I like the shocks on the engwe and higher motor raitings but would love to get opinion from someone thay has used them
I'm wondering if the stopping power with mechanical brakes is adequate for rider and passenger pushing the maximum load, coming off a hill at 20+mph...? Do you have a video and link on a hydraulic brake upgrade to the Lectric bikes?
Not for full hydraulic brakes but I do have one on installing hydraulic calipers but only on the back.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Hmmm... 🤔... I wonder what a full hydraulic conversion would entail? Prolly easier to get the T42 version of the XP3.0 for the $738 sale price?
Last question before I buy on your recommendation. The long range is currently on sale for $1150 with 14 AH battery. I'm thinking of buying the standard range with 10.4 and then a spare 10.4 = 20.8 AH for For $1300. Thoughts please.
My question is do you really need that much range? The only thing I would say is it is kind of a pain to carry extra batteries on your ride and a larger battery will maintain a higher voltage longer throughout the first half of the ride. Not sure your situation, but you may find the long range battery to be enough range. I’ve also seen the 10 amp hour batteries go on sale from time to time but usually not the long range batteries.
Honestly, tough decision lol
Awesome thank you very much, Just ordered the long range step through
Why are the handle bars sitting so high?
Thank you for this great video! I purchased a 3.0 yesterday as my first e-bike and this half-hour review was extremely informative. I definitely want to get some of the accessories you have in the description but some of the links (like for the Cloud 9 seat) are to products that are no longer available. That's not a critique; it's the opposite, actually. You did a great video and I'd like to follow links from here to return the favor (in a small way).
That’s great to hear and thank you for letting me know about the links. I’ll have to update them but it looks like amazon is currently out of that seat. Enjoy!
Great video ! What brand rest bag
iOS phone holder and light kit and alarm ? Thanks
Just open up the video description and all the links will be in there for all of them.
Thanks
You sold me in your review
I'll be ordering 2 ! Where's the best place to purchase these 3.0's ?
The only place you can purchase them is directly through their website. If you open up the description of the video with the arrow next to the video title there will be links in there to their official website and it will help support the channel if you use those links at no extra cost to you. Thanks I’m advance and please let me know if you have any other questions.
I just purchased mine a week ago and I have put 7 miles on it and I could feel the pedal assist starting to act up and within a few minutes it was working at all. The throttle still works but I have no pedal assist. Do you know what might have caused it to stop working
Could be a loose connection on the pas sensor, the display or possibly the controller. I would reach out to Lectric and let them know what’s going on with it.
Lectric crap bikes caused this. Get a different brand.
Can you please add a link for bag? Thanks
Did you check the description of this video? There should be a link in there for all my accessories including the bag.
Can you buy an extra battery and keep the 2nd with you when the first dies switch them out?
Yes you can.
What does the 3.0 weight
Is there one bike like what you are riding on that can go 32 mph
Impressive, but if they could mount a rack on the front for another person.....that would hold a small family.... Seriously, I purchased the xp2 and upgraded the sprocket and racks with your help from a previous video--wish I would have waited to order this.... I’m thinking about it..
Are these grips more easily adapted for mirrors? Can a regular bottle cage be attached anywhere? Thanks for the terrific review!
The bottle cage I use actually straps on the handlebar stem and I got it from Walmart for like eight bucks. I would recommend a set of bar and mirrors those typically work well and allow you to see around yourself easier.
@@JeremiahMcintosh I bought the Lectric mirrors and am disappointed that we have to use a hammer to remove the end caps to place them in. Plus they look a little small.
I haven’t tried their new bar and mirrors yet but I did notice the end caps were pretty hard to get out.