Truth About Early Porsche 928’s

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  • @HernanSpeed
    @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +10

    To everyone who has Shared/Subscribed/Liked our videos, THANK YOU!! More to come!
    More 928 Videos HERE: ua-cam.com/play/PLB1Br-75u6i1pXhAf88POcgtLTFTGQdxR.html
    0:00 Record sale of Risky Business Porsche 928 spiked prices
    0:25 Does the old advice of buying the newest 928 still apply?
    0:44 When a Porsche hits classic status, prices explode!
    1:38 Are early Porsche 928's worth these elevated prices?
    2:15 Not all early Porsche 928's are the same.
    2:42 Euro 928S introduced..
    2:53 Euro 928S VS 928S, any differences?
    3:38 Most Important thing when buying ANY Porsche 928!
    4:23 Are early Porsche 928's worth more than later S4 GT GTS models?
    5:22 Early Porsche 928's are lighter, but are they funner?
    5:58 Early Porsche 928's have shorter gearing = FUN!!
    6:47 Is a faster Porsche 928 always more fun?
    7:16 Early 928's are being used for pleasure, that means Weekends & Car Shows.
    7:31 Are the elevated prices on Porsche 928's justified, or plain crazy?
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  • @normsallitt2753
    @normsallitt2753 12 днів тому +13

    The black 86 928 driving and popping the headlights at the beginning of your video was my car. I sold it this past February on BaT after 16 years of ownership. It was an absolute time machine with only 35k miles from new and always amazing to drive with the manual transmission. It was truly an honor and privilege, being its conservator for the past 14 years and quite possibly the best Porsche I've ever owned. Thanks for posting this video of an old friend.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому +3

      A SPECTACULAR 928!!! 💯🔥🔥

    • @normsallitt2753
      @normsallitt2753 11 днів тому +1

      @@HernanSpeed Thank you 👍

    • @josephpole
      @josephpole 9 днів тому +3

      Agree, the manual is amazing. I drove a lot before buying but the manual changes the driving dynamics completely. The 928 is a great car with either transmission though, finally getting the recognition they deserve

  • @upssidep9283
    @upssidep9283 14 днів тому +10

    Another great video! A clean 928 will always be big bucks!

  • @slickfrictionless
    @slickfrictionless 13 днів тому +5

    Love your 928 content! I’ve had my black on black 86.5 five speed for 27 years and will probably get buried in it, lol! I’m hoping that the uniqueness of this car, with the S4 brakes and upgraded suspension, and the very last of the older body style cars, will be the next model to see higher values! It’s absolutely the most reliable car I’ve ever owned! It’s never left me stranded or failed to start!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +1

      That’s what I’m talking about! Never sell!! Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

    • @slickfrictionless
      @slickfrictionless 13 днів тому +1

      @@HernanSpeed Nope! I made that mistake once! I bought a 1970 911E in 1984 for $5,500! A chain tensioner went out and broke the engine in 1987 and, at 23 years old fresh out of college, I didn’t have the 3K to fix it and needed reliable transportation for a new job. Traded it in on a Toyota! Worst mistake I’ve ever made based on what it’s worth now but at that age I had no concept of what kind of future investment it would be, lol!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +1

      We live and learn 💯 Take good care of that Porsche 928! 🙌🙌

  • @juanvidal9492
    @juanvidal9492 14 днів тому +5

    Another great video, well done. I think the 928 had been undervalue for a long time, they look so cool, and they are much nicer to drive than any 80`s 911.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +2

      The more time passes, the cooler they get!! 💯👊👊

  • @porschelove-6077
    @porschelove-6077 14 днів тому +9

    Great Video! I agree on your last point! Spend the money upfront, otherwise….pain!

    • @upssidep9283
      @upssidep9283 14 днів тому +2

      💯💯

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +2

      Correct! Buy minty, so you can enjoy…

    • @gonzalomartinez-gil2820
      @gonzalomartinez-gil2820 12 днів тому +1

      En el mio, un S4 del 89 Manual, he gastado sin escatimar ni un solo euro, le he hecho todo, desde el motor entero pasando por embrague, suspensiones y un largo etc de detalles, no me a importado en absoluto.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому +1

      It’s worth it! 💯💯

  • @jasonknight5863
    @jasonknight5863 14 днів тому +4

    Thank you 🙏🏻 These 928 spots are wonderful! I would love to see the story of your 3 928’s you had sitting in your warehouse. Good call because that leather in abundance interior and dash hates sitting outside. A strong U.V deflecting Xpel Prime XR Plus is unbelievable in the florida sun. Just got it on my cars and it’s unreal how it feels like sitting under a tree 🌳 with how much sunshine it deflects from the interior of that car.
    It felt before like the windows had holes in them driving around. The leather interior and I are certainly VERY happy to keep my minty perfect 928 S interior in perfect condition:) 🙏🏻🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +1

      Sounds like you’re treating that Porsche 928 good! Yesss, tints make a huge difference….especially ceramic tints like Expels! I had Crystalline ceramics all around, even with a 70% on the windshield! Totally worth it! Yes it’s pricey, but you’ll save thousands by keeping the interior minty!
      Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

    • @jasonknight5863
      @jasonknight5863 13 днів тому +2

      @@HernanSpeed You are most welcome brother. 👍🏼
      Ah, you too found the key 🔑 also in comfort and keeping the interior new also. You’d be surprised how many people haven’t discovered what the high end tint do. They think it’s just for darkness levels and looks. 😂
      Yes I have the 70 % Xpel Ceramic plus the best for one windshield and 55 % on the Porsche. With 20 % on the side windows and 15 % on the big rear window. Along with that combo on my other sports cars. You are right makes such a difference! Enjoy brother. Yes true, you’ll save thousands just keeping that leather dash and interior perfect , as it never comes out the same if you let them go.. and recover it. All parts on Porsches are super expensive if you can find trim pieces.
      Bring on the next of your brilliant videos 🎊

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +1

      @jasonknight5863 🙌🙌

  • @normanpower973
    @normanpower973 12 днів тому +2

    Great video!
    I can agree with everything in this video, I went to buy an early 79 5 speed 928 owned by a pilot but the fuel pump went out on it during the test drive, it drove fantasic and felt more toss-able. I ended up settled for a 944 instead as they were much easier to find. I still had the 928 itch and later a friend bought an S4, and when I drove it I couldn't figure out why it didn't feel like the early one I had test drove years earlier. Later on I went to a dealership and test drove another 928 and found it boring compared to my 944 which I'd now modified for autocrossing, you had to drive the 928 flatout to really feel any excitement.
    I ended up getting rid of my 944 and an early 911. Still owning my 914 from my teens(first Porsche) which I saved from going to the junkyard(was converted to a slantnose not anymore), it's a modified bastard of a car, not original at all with a Boxster transmission and a Audi 1.8T big turbo putting out 320HP. Much more fun then either car so raw, but with a modern drivetrain it can be docile, not a good investment car but its what I like, and gets lots of looks as 914s aren't common anymore as most have been reclaimed by the Earth.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому

      You’ve got great taste in cars! My little brother just got an orange 914-6, it’s fun!! The 944 is a lively feeling car, so are early 928’s. I think that most S4 automatics feel soft is because the transmission linkage is sloppy, so they can feel…lethargic….but it’s easily fixed with a few adjustments.
      Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

  • @tkongny
    @tkongny 13 днів тому +2

    You are the 928 king! Your 928 expertise is so rare. Wish you were in New York. Thanks for the content! Keep it coming!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +1

      Thanks for watching man! 👊👊

    • @tkongny
      @tkongny 13 днів тому +1

      @@HernanSpeed always will! Your content is 🔥! Great info and great presentation of info!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому

      🙌🙌

  • @Landshark928
    @Landshark928 14 днів тому +3

    Thanks for the spot on vid🎉! In the mid90s my dad was looking for a 928S automatic (due to my pushy behaviour) and we testdrove several candidates🎉. We also drove here in the Netherlands an 84S auto US version and we were 😮 how 'tired' it felt😅 by then we had no clue the US version lacked some horses😊. As with any exclusive car: by the best documented car possible with a good story. Cheers!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +2

      Sounds like you’ve got a cool Dad! Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

    • @Landshark928
      @Landshark928 14 днів тому +2

      @@HernanSpeed he certainly was😃! See ya!

  • @modified15r
    @modified15r 14 днів тому +3

    Enjoy your videos. I have a 82 and 88 you are point on in the driving experience.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +1

      Those are great years 💯 Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

  • @rudimerm7686
    @rudimerm7686 13 днів тому +2

    Great stuff. As a kid, I thought they were all the same. As a teen, I knew how much the 928 evolved significantly, especially when you look at the 1995 GTS. That 5.4 DOHC V8 had 100hp more that the original 4.5 V8.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +1

      Yesss, power definitely went up during the years! 💯👊👊

  • @RonNehring
    @RonNehring 14 днів тому +2

    Yet another world class video. Your content is excellent. Still waiting for what you have to say about the Panamera in a video!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +1

      You know it! Thanks for watching! 🙌🙌

  • @joeblack007
    @joeblack007 12 днів тому +3

    I am looking at two 928s that are close in price. The 78 928 runs on starter fluid and is a 5 speed. The 87 is a S4 with auto trans in unknown, non running condition. I am a glutton for punishment but I think the 78 is the better buy because once the fueling issue is resolved, I can drive it around the block and look/sound cool faster. 😅😅😅

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  12 днів тому +1

      Man.. I’ve been there, lots of pain in your future! But also learning 💪 The 78 had the ultra simple CIS fuel injection, so if it runs on starter fluid…it’s just a gas issue. Most likely the fuel injectors are toast, look in the forums for the aftermarket ones!
      Also, go to Rennlist 928 forums! Every question has been answered on this car! 💯👊👊

  • @carandkarts9558
    @carandkarts9558 13 днів тому +2

    Great video. Through your videos, I learned about the Euro 928s from 84 to 86 and started paying attention on BaT. Based on my observations, there is a difference (probably around $10-15k) but they are far and few between.
    Still searching for a 928...

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +2

      The Euro is totally worth it!! I’ve noticed that many sellers don’t even realize when they have a Euro.. Look for the lights instead of the description in the ad! 🙌🙌

    • @carandkarts9558
      @carandkarts9558 13 днів тому +1

      @@HernanSpeed Thanks! Yes, look for that single red one at the back. (A few guys on BaT also know about these…)

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +1

      👊👊

    • @josephpole
      @josephpole 9 днів тому +1

      Euros got the 300HP 4.7L in 1980 so don't discount 80-83 in your search. I'd also recommend driving as many as you can before buying, they can feel very different depending on how well they've been maintained

  • @reitsmaassociates
    @reitsmaassociates 14 днів тому +3

    Fabulous as always ………….and the 928 too 😊. - cheers from Brisbane

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +1

      Hi from Miami! Thanks for watching! 🙌🙌

  • @madfemurfast
    @madfemurfast 14 днів тому +4

    Another great film👍

  • @928fanbelgium
    @928fanbelgium 13 днів тому +2

    Make more stories on the specific models! With some driving experience etc! Great content!!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому

      Yesss, will eventually be doing more in depth vids! Thanks for watching! 👊👊

  • @detonator2112
    @detonator2112 12 днів тому +4

    And what were the 928's competitors? Mercedes R129, BMW 8-series and Jaguar XJS. I think Porsche was clearly the best car of the bunch. Strange that there aren't any motor media comparison reviews of these. Sure there is the GTS vs 850i comparison and GTS absolutely DEMOLISHED the heavy and slow 8-series. R129 was amazing but it was way softer and more like a luxury car and Jaguar XJS was already ANCIENT at this point. But I think its successor XK X100 (which you reviewed) was pretty much the "British 928". Great cars.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому +2

      The 928 is in a class of its own! 🙌🙌

  • @cbotten106
    @cbotten106 12 днів тому +4

    Very similar to the Lambo Countach's, early ones are "purer" and later ones get ugly appendages.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  12 днів тому +1

      The later one’s look sublime without the side rub-strips, makes a massive difference! But… the Early ones are a Work of Art! 💯👊👊

  • @fadih6410
    @fadih6410 13 днів тому +2

    Fantastic video. Thank you for another lesson on the Porsche 928.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому

      Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

  • @checkmate1996
    @checkmate1996 9 днів тому +1

    great video! I'm in the process of a light restore with an 1985 928. It had really good bones. (e.g. good paint, motor and interior). Almost a complete car. The first initial pass of things needed is coming close to $5000 which doesn't include labor. many of them are weird electrical issues after multiple owners.That being said, when brought up to speed properly, these are amazing cars to drive. I appreciate them so much more now after seeing all the modern "plastic" junk being sold for $100k. This is why these cars drive so well. They are extremely planted with the 50/50 weight balance and everything is bolted together with real stainless steel bolts. Not this faux garbage manufactures are using now. 😓

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  9 днів тому +1

      Yes!! 🙌🙌 That’s what I’m talking about! After you bring it up to date, you’ll have a car that you can have a blast with for years!💥💥
      Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

  • @AndyD070568
    @AndyD070568 9 днів тому +1

    Finally someone talking sense on the manual vs auto debate!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  9 днів тому

      You know it! Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

  • @Datsunz-fr2nw
    @Datsunz-fr2nw 14 днів тому +4

    I have the 436th 928 made. Most of the parts are from 1977. The car was sold in February of 1978

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +2

      That’s a really early one!! 🔥🔥 Take really good care of it!! 👊👊

    • @928pcar
      @928pcar 11 днів тому +2

      #112 here! June ‘77

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому

      🔥🔥🔥

  • @MTbone7
    @MTbone7 13 днів тому +2

    Love the 928, you know your stuff brother!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому

      Nothing like a Porsche 928!! Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

  • @928pcar
    @928pcar 11 днів тому +3

    I’ll never buy a U.S. spec 928 again. Owned the US 85 5 speed, now have 2 euros including a twin distributor 5 speed. The 4.7 S2 5 speed is the best 928 ever in my opinion

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому +2

      Lots of options, it definitely confusing for most. The 1985 US 32V engine has much more low-end torque, which makes it great for an automatic….more power can also be extracted easily. The Twin-Dizzy Euro model demands a manual transmission, it LOVES TO REV! Definitely a more exotic sounding/feeling engine! It’s worth the added upfront cost! 💯💯
      Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

  • @tkongny
    @tkongny 13 днів тому +2

    Your 1987 S4 looks like mine. Is the color diamond blue metallic?

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +2

      That’s a great color man! 🔥🔥 This S4 is Granite green metallic, it changes colors depending on the lighting outside…most people just think it’s Silver.

  • @MrToddgibbs
    @MrToddgibbs 14 днів тому +2

    Great video :)

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому

      I’m subbed to your channel, great content! 💯 Thanks for contributing so much to the 928 Community! 👊👊

    • @MrToddgibbs
      @MrToddgibbs 14 днів тому +1

      @@HernanSpeed ditto :) you prefer early cars over later?

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому

      When I was younger, I preferred the later years…I was always looking for faster and more modern. But now things have changed a lot, I’m starting to like the pure lines of the early cars more….maintenance is much easier too. Got my first Porsche 928 almost 29 years ago, I have many great memories with them! 👊👊

  • @nboy7
    @nboy7 13 днів тому +2

    You're the Porsche 928 whisperer !

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +1

      😆😆 Thanks for watching brother! 👊

  • @ThatCaymanGuy
    @ThatCaymanGuy 14 днів тому +2

    I used to own a 1979 928, it was given to me, the car was in such terrible condition, all tires were flat, sun fade, rust, engine wouldn't start and this was Pre internet back in 1994, I had this foolish dream of getting the car up and running but parts were difficult to find and unnecessarily expensive. I gave up and had the autowreckers pick it up for $300. I was living at home at the time and my mother said 4 cars and a motorcycle was too much.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому +1

      Man, this comment reminds me of my youth. Me and my brother would bring home cars, some wouldn’t run. The family would tolerate it, just barely. Fun times, with a little pain 😆 Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

    • @ThatCaymanGuy
      @ThatCaymanGuy 14 днів тому +1

      @@HernanSpeed dude, anytime! you make great videos!

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  14 днів тому

      🙌🙌

  • @mickeymichaels1298
    @mickeymichaels1298 6 днів тому +1

    I noticed the gearing changes for the US market many years ago. To go with the much taller rear end ratio, the US manual cars got a wide ratio gearbox with a really steep 1st gear. But if I remember correctly, didn't they go back to Euro gearing in US cars starting in 1990, back to 2.75 or so for manuals and 2.53 for autos?

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  6 днів тому +1

      Yes, the gearing got shorter for the manual 928GT with a final drive of 2.73. On a 928 GT, you really can’t ‘step on it’ in 1st gear during normal driving…it creates jack rabbit starts. So, 2nd is used once the car is warmed up.
      On the early 928’s with the 4.5 engine, you can use 1st all the time because there is much less power.
      Thanks for watching man! 👊👊

  • @detonator2112
    @detonator2112 12 днів тому +4

    Personally I always thought S4, GT and GTS look like completely new model. People said 928 stayed the same between 78-95 but I always saw the difference between the two generations very dramatic. I know it's just bumpers and lamps but they managed to improve the looks a lot. The old model definitely has certain charm but the new look is more balanced and timeless.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому

      I like the new ones without the side rubstrips, it totally kills the lines for me. It’s actually the reason I sold my GT. Removing them is not easy, they have huge mounting holes.
      Thanks for watching brother! 👊👊

  • @SAMMYJR00777
    @SAMMYJR00777 13 днів тому +2

    NICEEEEEEEEEEEEE... LOVE IT

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  13 днів тому +1

      Thanks for watching!! 👊👊

  • @michaelsavo-mg2pc
    @michaelsavo-mg2pc 12 днів тому +1

    When I was 20 I scratched enough together to buy 1986 corvette could never afford a porsche but my vette beat the porsches on the street never thought they would be so popular today

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  12 днів тому +1

      Man, that’s a great car for a 20 year old! 🙌🙌 That year Corvette had the L98 engine with 230hp, it could probably beat a base 944. The 928 had almost 300hp that year, and over 320hp in 1987.
      Porsche prices have never been about speed, it’s more how they drive.
      Btw, I owned a beautiful 91 Corvette… a fun car for the weekends…and ultra low maintenance! Gotta love that! 👊🔥

    • @michaelsavo-mg2pc
      @michaelsavo-mg2pc 12 днів тому +2

      @HernanSpeed now I have a 2023 porsche 911 turbo s cabriolet that also beats every car on the street love it 😀

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  12 днів тому

      That’s what I’m talking about!! 🔥🔥💪💪

  • @fred-ov3hh
    @fred-ov3hh 2 дні тому +1

    why a big price difference between 83 and 84 . could've bought one in 90s for cheap even though I knew they would skyrocket go up price, but couldn't trade my daily

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  2 дні тому

      The price differences are more dependent on condition. With the age of these cars, lots can happen throughout the decades.
      Thanks for watching brother 👊👊

  • @msill5684
    @msill5684 10 днів тому +1

    I'm not buying this video. The only early 928's that are selling for a major premium are ones that are in exceptional original condition with low miles that may have some added provenance. In general, early 928's are not selling for anything near what a decent GT or GTS would sell for.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  10 днів тому

      Well, no one is asking you to buy anything… I go by completed auction prices on “nice” examples. When you see an early 928 selling under $25k, that’s a project car that will need many thousands put into it. Thanks for watching 👊👊

  • @jonasirw1
    @jonasirw1 12 днів тому +1

    The shape of the backside of the one from risky business was always super ugly looking.. theydid gradually enhance it but it's never been close to the appeal of the 911

    • @928pcar
      @928pcar 11 днів тому +2

      The 928 certainly didn’t catch on like Porsche thought it would in the US market, even though it is better than the 911 in almost every way. Faster, safer, quieter, etc etc

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому +1

      Styles/tastes change over time. Search Continental Orange 928, I can definitely see why more and more people are starting to appreciate it more.

  • @dinsdalepiranha2333
    @dinsdalepiranha2333 12 днів тому

    The Risky Business 928 sale was money laundering at it's best.

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  11 днів тому +1

      Naww. Buyer is known, it even just resold again. That’s baby-money compared to some other car’s. Many older 911’s exchange for much higher amounts

  • @drunvert
    @drunvert 4 дні тому +1

    Anyone paying MORE for an Early 928 is an idiot. The automatic is garbage. Wiring is a disaster. Be prepared to do a full resto

    • @HernanSpeed
      @HernanSpeed  4 дні тому +1

      Yesss, that’s why I always tell people to skip 928 restoration projects! You can spend $20k on the interior alone….and have it look “So-So”. Even crazier is that most ‘low mileage’ 928’s just have had the odometer broken.
      That’s why when a real low-miles unicorn 928 pops up for sale, the people go crazy for it 💯💯
      The early 3-speed auto was smooth, but definitely slooowww.
      Thanks for watching man! 👊👊