Should You Buy a LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 4? (Test Drive & Review SDV6)
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Owned Land Rovers all my life ( 80 years old ) I consider the Disco 4 the best one ever.
What makes them better than the previous gen? Apart from refinement inside - are they generally more reliable? Been looking at the reviews for the 2.7 and they seem better than the 3.0
same as the d3 !!!
@@Tom3294. same engine bored out
I'm trying to work out wtf you do and it's totally beyond me. Every single car you review I want to buy, there's no way I'd ever visit your lot as I'd end up buying whatever you wanted to get rid of that day, no matter how inappropriate or frivolous 🙄🤣
Haha sorry
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You’re not trying very hard, you’d see he’s a car dealer if you watch the videos 😂
That is what a car lover does. Even the ones we don't particularly fancy, we respect for what they are. We can have our own favorites but even the supermarket car park looks like a candy store. Because even that boring corolla next to you can tell you it's story if you are keen.
I prefer the cable anyway.
Better fidelity.
We ran a fleet of 8, after owning the first one we said: “this is the best car we have ever driven/owned” so we bought another, eventually we ran a fleet of 8 for transferring guests from one game reserve to another. Then Covid hit, and at 250k km the crank snapped on a 2015 model, overtaking a truck up a hill towing a heavy trailer. We sold them all;( I then personally went and found a 2010 5.0 V8. Absolutely love it! Puts a massive smile on my face every time I drive it, not as much torque as the diesel for towing, and obviously heavier on fuel, but my goodness when it climbs above 3k rpm, things get really exciting, and up around 5k rpm you doing 7sec to 100kph and it’s making a great sound. Also no turbos, hoses, intake manifolds, and crank problems that the diesels may give. Does need the timing chain guides and water pump done before they get too bad, and then usual disco 4 stuff. But like many people have said, what you get from the vehicle far outweighs what you spend on it. Cheers for the great video mate.
You really should watch the recent LR TINE video that explains exactly what your crank shaft broke and the design flaw that causes it. It's a brilliant video
LANDCRUISERS never SNAP A CRANK
@@rumpoh8039 Land Cruiser is too overrated...
@@rumpoh8039Neither do most Land Rovers.
I had a Disco 4. 4 years old, one owner, 44k miles, apparently fireproof. It was a fine thing to drive and you always felt it had lots of spare capacity if even it was needed. Then the problems started. First a leak on the steering hydraulics (£375 from my LR dealer) Next a front suspension bush (£295). Then, for no obvious reason it started pumping out clouds of dark grey smoke. I took it to a Land Rover Specialist Independent. He said it needed two new turbochargers, etc, etc, etc. - price £7600. I got it done. Within a month it was chucking out thick grey smoke again. Another new turbo - luckily this one at the repairers expense. I decided to get rid of it before something else went wrong. In the 14 months I owned it, I lost £12750. What a total heap of junk!
I feel your pain dude. I had one of the last disco 3’s and my story is similar to yours. Bought it at 90k miles. Got the £1500 timing belt service done just after purchasing then a month later all sorts of lights and warnings on the dash which turned out to be the high pressure fuel pump costing a nice £1300. Then the spare key stopped working and cost over £300 to have a new one off Landrover. The next annual service set me back well over £700 replacing discs, pads, and various worn bushes etc. That years MOT set me back just shy of £300 getting the rear brake lines replaced. My second year was spent with the engine management light occasionally coming on the dash then disappearing after a few drives. Most likely culprits were the EGRs. The annual service that year was £800 with a long list of things that needed replacing, as well as being warned that my gearbox had a bit of vibration and might need replacing sometime in future! A few months later I booked it in to have the gearbox flushed costing £250 and then a few months later a replacement wheel bearing which I can’t remember the cost of! Around the 2 year mark the suspension began throwing up a load of faults and warning lights causing it to just lower onto the bump stops. Cycling the ignition fixed it for days or sometimes weeks but it always returned sooner or later. Up to this point I considered my ownership experience to be fairly normal as the expensive bills were all consistent with what typical discovery owners put up with. I certainly wasn’t considering changing car but just accepted the astronomical maintenance regime as par for the course. Then approaching 3 years into my ownership the engine started knocking which got louder and louder quite quickly. After some non invasive investigation it became pretty obvious the main bearings were on their way out and rather than put a new engine in it I sold it to we buy any car for £4000!! Way less than half of what I had paid for it when I got it. This is the reality of owning Landrovers. I’m told even the new ones are plagued with reliability issues, and constant dashboard warning lights etc.
Totally a load of junk. People will never learn.
My friends daughter has one , nothing but problems, spent over £10,000 on it. 🤦♂️
Haha! What a pile of junk!
Yup, typical British car
Been waiting for you to review a Disco 4 for a while Matt. I took the plunge last October a bought a 2013 V8 HSE here in Dubai (badged as the LR4 over here). I bought the best spec I could afford, and looked around for a while until I found the best condition model with the most complete history I could find. The one thing I realised during my search, is that Landy owners don't want to sell if they don't have to. At least 2 people said they would keep them if they didn't get the offer they wanted. I have to say that I now completely understand. This has to be the best car I've owned. Yes it's cost be a few dirhams to sort bits out (air compressor, full service including transmission, tyres etc), but I am soo chuffed I own this car now. It makes me smile every time I get in it. I have even started offering to run to the shops just to drive it. Your review is spot on, don't ever buy any used car expecting trouble free motoring. I was fortunate to only have a few issues, and still have money put aside as 'just in case' fund. Plus it's a big heavy beast and drinks fuel if not careful. I average 14.5l/100km, which gets be 500+ km per tank full. I wouldn't change a thing though. Pretty sure I'll be keeping this one for a long while yet. If you're ever in Dubai Matt, give me a shout and I'll take you for a ride to show you what a V8 does. It'll put a smile on your face too.
if ever in Dubai... not funny, but many ppl would never go to Dubai, period. Just sayin', bcuz things have become more illuminated in the past decade in the world, re who's who, who does what, to whom, etc. UAE is ok, but again, life is short, there's only so much time, and many nice places to go that make Dubai seem not well grounded.
My first D4 was a 2013 SE with the 5.0L V8 and drove it fairly aggressively in the deserts of Qartar. In 5 years of ownership, nothing ever went besides the usual wear and tear (LCA bushings, etc). Moved back here to the UK and picked up a 2016 HSE Lux and in 3 years of ownership, has been flawless. Find yourself a reliable independent LR specialist for service and avoid the mega-priced dealership servicing and they are quite manageable. I can't imagine anything else modern and comparable to replace it.
Genuinely the best rural family cars going! Had a Disco3 for 7 years and did 150k with no problems, now have a late 2016 Disco4 and just done 105k again with no problems. As long as you keep servicing them they're great. LRC 4x4 in Congleton always look after mine.
150k is small numbers mate..if it start reaching above 400-500k..then we can start talking
Can you total up all the receipts for service and maintenance costs you’ve spent in that time and post the total £ in your reply? Thanks
@@GRACEORT thats going to be hugeee mate 🤣 i know it will haha
I sometimes wonder if everyone who had trouble with a Disco 3/4 (and those people certainly exist) made a UA-cam video about it. Yeah something will go pop and the parts prices will be a work of comic genius but for the most part they just do the job and do it brilliantly. They were a combo of LR's know-how and Ford's QC systems, probably the best car Land Rover's ever made. (You might want to fight me on that one.)
@@dolguldur4706
I know someone with 741,000 miles (not kilometers) on a Disco 3 the last time that I heard from him.
Have you managed that?
I have a photo of the mileometer that I’m happy to email to anyone that doesn’t believe it 👍
I owned a Disco, LR3(loved it) and a RR Sport. I now own a LR4 HSE,2016,Fuji White. Best damn car I have ever owned.
Such a classic look. Yes the maintenance cost is more than other SUV’s. But if you stick to the schedule on maintenance you will be just fine. Find a good mechanic, mine specializes in RR/LR you can save a lot of money.
I can’t tell you how many people have offered to buy my LR4. It’s a classic. It’s look and design is timeless. After all it’s a Land Rover!!!
As a dealer and collector, This is probably THE best car you could buy! People will say, Unreliable, thirsty, expensive..It's honestly one of the very best cars you can buy in the UK today.. it's £170 to fill but does around 500 miles per tank and just makes you feel the absolute b88locks when you drive it. White cars in my experience command a premium 🔥...The smart man's choice is the XS spec 😜
£170 to fill it up 🤦♂️ I’m still getting over £100 to fill up my Lexus NX
I'm glad you said that! I bought a 2014 Disco 4 today. Love it so far but it has literally only been 8 hours!
Being a BMW driver for 10 years, currently a G30 540d and as impressive as that car is (4.9s 0-60, M Sport etc) I cannot get enough of my girlfriends Disco 4. It might genuinely be the most enjoyable car I’ve ever driven. 110k miles and no issues other than usual maintenance. It even gets 33mpg on a run. I use it to transport items that would fit in no other car on the regular. There’s really nothing else like it. If the engine goes, I think I’ll just replace it with a 5.0 v8. At this point we have swapped cars on a permanent basis.
We bought a 2016 Landmark edition last year and immediately had to have it Waxoyled as it had pulled boats out of the sea in Scotland for all of its short life. Lovely vehicle and very happy with it.
My brother in law has the same model. Pretty much the last one off the line. So far it's been pretty good apart from a electronic parking break failure that turned out to be the sensor but it took 3 months to get a OEM replacement. He seems happy paying £1000 for the JLR extended warranty...
After 30 years of trouble-free Toyota/Lexus product ownership, I took the plunge 2 years ago and got a 2015 Disco HSE. Is it as well built? No. Does it feel as well designed and put together? No. Has it been as reliable? So far, yes. Is it as enjoyable? Yes, oh yes.
Your assessment is spot-on, the silliness of the electronic parking brake and the frankly ridiculous stop/start function equalled by the utilitarian brilliance of the split rear door, for example. In a way, this car is like an archaeological site in that you get layers on top of each other, each added by successive Land Rover designers, who didn't tend to preserve the organic whole, but rather slapped the new atop the old any old how. And not always very intelligently either, but much in the British Leyland Friday-afternoon tradition.
Notwithstanding all that, the plusses greatly outweigh the minuses for me, and as long as I don't get major reliability issues or cataclysmically serious breakdowns, I can see this car being a long-term keeper.
Hope it continues to serve you well
Curious if you’ve ran into any reliability issues in the 2 years since your comment. Figure the chance of you responding is quite low but I’m thinking of buying a disco but slightly concerned about the reliability.
Mate, you are One of the Best Car reviewers I have ever come across. Great Review. I own a 2015 TDV6 and its like my family member.
Ive had my 2014 LR4 3.0 V6 (Commercial) for 5 years it now has 130,000 miles to date and hasn't missed a beat. I average 300 miles a week. Ive had 2 new wishbones fitted, and cam belt changed by main dealer at 110,000 miles. Comfiest car I've ever driven. Yes expensive to fill up but like I said it hasn't missed a beat engine wise. I love it. Maybe I'm lucky but I'm sure all cars have their issues.
Pleased to hear it
Brilliant video as usual when it comes to land rover’s/range rover’s. I’ve got a discovery 3 and a L405, the comments constantly “bet it costs a fortune and bet it always breakdowns” really gets boring. So I point them to your channel and let you explain. 3 of my mates now subscribe to your channel.
“bet it costs a fortune and bet it keeps breaking down”
Oh yes, that same old, pub bore style, lecture 🙁
Buy it definitely…..but remember a Diso 4 is “the gift the keeps on taking & taking”……2012 with 112k very well maintained…..crank snapped two weeks ago, and had the crossover pipe replaced late last year…..however I wouldn’t part with it for love nor money…..it’s still one of the most comfortable big 4x4s out there…..I
I’ve had them all, X5, Merc ML, landcruiser…..
Despite all of the problems I have heard, I'm still going to purchase one. I'm not afraid.
@@life107familyfitnessboxing8how’s it gone so far? Any reliability issues? Thinking about getting one but I, unlike you, am slightly afraid 😂
Mines done 350,000 kms, tows 3 ton of caravan with absolute ease, power and authority. Runs like a Swiss watch.
I would add the Navigation software is an abomination.
I've had a 2012Disco 4 for about 4 years now and my short answer is yes. Long answer is yessssssssssssssssssssssssss
Best looking discovery ever made, indeed!
These are one of the most capable, practical and versatile cars ever made. There is NOTHING that comes close to this level of utility. I know tradespeople who use theirs for trade work during the week with the seats dropped. They load it up with tools, lawn mowers etc and then take it all out for leisure trips. Cavernous space in these and waaaaaay nicer to drive than any van or dual cab utility. SDV6 by far the pick of the bunch. Good cars and reliable if you service them on time.
I have the exact 2011 sdv6 hse, its been the family hauler, hunting truck, bush tourer for 9yrs, I still can’t imagine life without it, at 220000km now, I’ve been on top of its Maintanance throughout my ownership. I’ve also got a land cruiser 200 series 4.5diesel 2018 model, but the disco feels a lot more easy to leave with from a size and weight feel perspective. Its not going anywhere unless something catastrophic happens to it. Love the D4
Don't sell that beauty💯 unless it's the facelift or the new Defender 3.0 inline 6 diesel
Had my D4 since 2010 with 279,000Km (180,000 miles) on it. Best vehicle i have ever owned. Fantastic quiet and comfortable ride, handles beutifully and great offroad. Tows well, can sleep in back for quick camping trips and I get 8.2L/100km from the TD 2.7 on the highway so great fuel economy. Only downside was the ZF 6 speed box having to be rebuilt at around 170,000km as it was "sealed for life" so land rover never serviced it and did have to replace the air compressor but that was under warranty. Lesson learnt though, service regularly now. I do all the other servicing myself so that saves alot of $$
There are very few unreliable cars but many unreliable car owners. It's funny how people think it's okay to ignore a warning light. The Discovery 4 has and always will be one of the most beautiful cars ever.
Agreed. The people who don’t even check their oil are the same who complain about e10 fuel 😂
These discos are a nightmare, body off for turbos, melting pistons and stupidly expensive hydraulic rear anti roll bar.
One of the worst engines ever produced, absolute rubbish
That was the last proper Discovery before they change the styling and made the motor smaller. It’s a fantastic piece of kit and is great off road as you would expect from a Land Rover. The HSE luxury is a classic.
Smaller motor?
David not exclusively in the UK market, they did offer the ingenium 2.0 but also the lion 3.0 in the D5.
The new one is better in every way
Too many electrical faults for my liking
@@davog1946 rear seating is horrid compared to this. The ride suffers heavily because they chose to make it stiffer. Plus the boot opening at the back is a step backwards where the angle slopes in and the "bench" feels like it would snap off.
The d5 certainly has some good points but I would have the D4 every time. Plus I prefer the D4 for towing, just wish they allowed the tdv8 as an engine spec.
2014 XS 88000 miles. No issues and useful for taking a group out for dinner. The running front lights are like a glowworm and replaced the main beams for better illumination. A great car.
Great video mate I had one here in Brisbane for 2 years ! But just to correct you that it has 2 Timing Belts to change and these V6 engines are suffering all over the world with snapped crankshafts ! Trust me google it ! But I still loved it. Thanks Ross
Actually they Do Not have 2 timing belts. They have a timing belt at the front of the engine and a fuel pump belt at the rear. Very different things. If the fuel pump belt breaks all it will do is stop the car until replaced. However a timing belt can do quite a lot more damage. Having recently replaced mine, myself (not through failure). And the so called crank failure is only a very very small %, do some more research. It is not as common as some make out.
@@1967CraigE think you will find it’s still classed as a pump timing belt so I’m not wrong in what I say mate but thanks for the reply. Not such a small percent here in Australia of snapped cranks ( my friend is a LR master Tech ) so still an expensive gamble ! But hey if you love them why not 👍
@@rossmclaren71 No it is not, many LR mechanic friends and have just done mine and nowhere refereed to as a timing belt as it does not do any timing at all. And for the snapped cranks you are just wrong, they are very low numbers, maybe talk to a few reputable LR mechanics that deal with these. It is catastrophic for the owner but only actually a handful in Australia, just played up a lot.
@@rossmclaren71 Also I will add that snapped cranks make up around 1% or less of all Land Rovers fitted with these engines (Discovery and RR) and was only a batch out of one factory I think In Pretoria South Africa before JLR took it back over from Ford. These engines are also widely used in Peugeot, Jaguars, Fords and several other brands and the engines built in other than this one factory do not suffer snapped cranks. A more concerning issue than the snapped cranks was the substandard oil pumps that could cause spun bearings and often when a lot of people talk snapped cranks they are actually talking spun bearing. Most by now have had the oil pump replaced. However if I was buying again I would want that checked. The problem is those with issues complain loud and everywhere. You do also know Prados suffered from snapped cranks as well right?
@@1967CraigE you seem to be missing my point that I still love them and had one here for 2 years and I was simply making a point to others about what to look out for. Yes I have heard about the Prados but nowhere near as much as the LR ones. My mate was seeing 1 a week in dealer a few months ago. Let’s not have a text war here mate I’m a LR fan believe it or not 👍 cheers👍
I can personally vouch for th Disco 4's long distance comfort. I once drove one about 600km, by myself, in one day and I got out the other side almost as fresh as when I got into the vehicle....
Btw at 3:37 you refer to the five seats being folded flat, but it’s worth noting the second row seats lower so they are in line with the third row/boot. In other words, totally flat. There’s a leather strap you pull at the front of each seat and then push the seat down and forward from above. Awesome car
I noticed this too. You do get a big flat load space with the seats pushed down.
Ahh, ive only had mine for a week, wondered what those straps were for? cheers!!
Wondersd if they went flat for car camping purposes. Now i know!
What’s the rough length from back of front row to rear hatch with everything folded flat?
Having converted a commercial to a 7 seater I can honestly say that the 2nd row seats are by far and away the most impressive piece of engineering on the car , just brilliant.
No no no no no no no! Yes. Oh feck. Did it again. Got a 2011 220k D4. Just love it. They should let peps who aren’t too happy drive them instead of giving them happy pills. They are complete tools and pull like trains. Budget for a GAP IID tool too so when the error lights pop up you can fix it on the move. You didn’t mention the snapping crank problem which is why you should always say a little prayer before driving off. Don’t let that put you off, or the fuel consumption, they are amazing cars.
I had a Disco 3 for all the same reasons, and managed to get from 70k to over 200K in 7 years. So many happy memories. But it cost me pretty much £2.5 - £3K a year in garage bills to run it before fuel. I forgave it everything, but have now realised I could lease pretty much anything else for less!
Very tidy example you had there, looks stunning in white with silver alloys and waaaay better than the newer 5 😀
I loved mine and do miss mine a little after I traded in a couple years ago for the 5. Hoping once the used prices drop soon and buy another one as a second car.
You poor thing knowone deserve the discovery 5 😂
How are you finding the 5? still have it, any issues? what engine size/ trim did you go for?
@EnGieBenGie90 , yes still have it and love it. It's a First Edition with a 3 litre engine, heard that 2 litre engines are more commonly breaking than 3. Only had a few little issues with windscreen leak, window regulators and required new air compressor for the suspension. These were all covered by the extended warranty. We are looking at getting a newer Discovery in the near future.
@@stuartmackenzie2066 This is great to hear,
I will have my 2014, Discovery 4 HSE now 4 years,
thinking of maybe going for the 5, but still shopping around,
love the 4 still and reluctant to part ways as I have put a lot of money into it.
May hold off until the new Discovery is announced next year?
in south africa we get the 5.0 liter version (its a actually a jaguar engine). its very nice, only criticism is that if you not careful with the throttle from a stand still it jerks you forward. so you gotta touch it very lightly and then you can go balls the wall if you want. definitely also recommend the tan interior which looks great in this car
Sounds nice. We didn’t get that
Fantastic review. Love my Disco 4 and agree with you on nearly all those points!!
I purchased a 2012 LR4 HSE for the Wife two years ago. It does require maintenance, so don't put it off. We live in the US so we have the V8 at 375 hp & torque. If the timing chain breaks, which ours did, the valves hit the pistons, causing the head to be rebuilt. You will here the chain when it starts to go bad so replace it imediately. We do Love this Truck how ever. It's Fuji White with light biege interior and it is still an absolutely gorgeous truck at 90k miles. It is also a beast off road. I have had Jeeps, Suburbans, Ram Chargers a current diesel 2021 Colorado ZR2 etc and this LR4 is more capable than all but the ZR2, with street tires off road. I have pulled out large trees, fence lines and used it as a truck and it doesn't even grunt. I also pulled out the ZR2 when it was buried in some deep mud. It also carries a hint of class and elagance and my wife just adores this truck. It holds seven and some gear and the interior couldn't be nicer for a 2012. I would stay away from the super charged Jag V6 that these evolved to in later LR4 years in the US. Would I recommend someone to buy one. Yes provided they had money to maintain it and put all the premium gas it drinks. Its now an eleven year old truck and still turns heads. I have fixed a front left side sun roof leak which had water in the floor board and the air compressor replacement myself. If the vehicles holds up well after the major engine repair and the wife gets a new truck some day this may get a 2 1/2 inch lift and 33"s. If you haven't seen one on 33's search for it.
Great review. I have the 2013 LR4 (American model) with the 5.0 V8 which I absolutely love. Bought it at 70K miles, spent some dollars to replace all the fluids end to end and swapped the LR3 wheels onto it so I could run 18” wheels, and then took it on an epic 1800 mile desert trip. Absolutely love this truck. I’m 30,000 miles on so far and it’s been brilliant. The key is to find a great and trustworthy independent LR mechanic to keep it in top shape. I’ve been eyeing L322 and L405s but your video makes me realize I’ve already got a great truck!
Great advice
Honest review, I sold my 2016 Disco 4 Landmark to buy a Hybrid Volvo XC90 T8, after 3 years of ownership and missing my Disco I'm going to buy another Disco 4 same spec and year, the Volvo is very fast 400 BHP but the LR's driving position, ruggedness, and classic 4x4 feel you cannot replicate in any new boring SUV including the new Discovery Mark 5 that looks like it's had a stroke at the back! Disco 4 is the best 4x4 by far! leave the 5 to the Surrey Mum's school run.
Oh gosh. They break down so often. We go on offroad adventures a lot. These things have ruined that many trips with failures, we no longer allow anyone with a Rover vehicle to come along. Sad but it is how it is.
You could also get remote control for the stereo in the back
The 2-7 TDV6 usually does MEGA mileage without problems,the problems seem to start on the 3 litre tdv6 which has a bigger power output and that seems to be the problem,crankshaft’s snapping seems to be a problem if driven hard and repair’s are very expensive,if you go for a Range Rover go for the 3-6 tdv8,it’s chain driven engine is bomb proof and there’s very little difference in fuel consumption if driven using it’s torque rather than it’s Revs,never heard of a crank snapping on the 3-6 tdv8 myself but someone might somewhere. The 3litre v6 has a bit of a reputation for this crank problem,my daughter has a Velar with that engine and I’ve told her once the Warranty is up to get the extended R/R Warranty for peace of mind.
Nice Video. I congratulate you for your clarity and honesty in describing this car.
I live in Switzerland and intend to buy a Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Used: year 2012 - 173983 miles at a cost of 10,900 Swiss Francs (approx. 9943.44 British Pounds).
The owner said that the sunroof motor stopped operating but after seeing your video, I am even more convinced to buy it.
Big running costs aside, thats one great, big car. Love it.
I'm in the market to buy 2x used cars and have to say, Matt, your channel has fast become one of my most trusted on this search; I love the honest reviews and clear insight - I really appreciate you making the videos you do. We have run our 08 A6 Avant Quattro from 120k to 290k miles, and sadly, it is in the garage now more often than not, but it's been a super family car. We need higher ground clearance, but we hope to address that in our next car(s). Suppose someone needs a large vehicle for family living and lives in the middle of high-hedged, rutted and sodden, narrow-laned nowhere BUT has to be careful about the budget because of buying two damn cars at the same time. Would you be recommending one of these? Alternatives? Keeping a tab on your website as well.
I guess I’m one of the lucky people - I have a 2012 5.0 V8 Disco 4. Well, actually an LR4 as I’m in the US (although originally English/British). Having a Jag XK8 with the 4.2 V8 (and loving that car!), I “discovered” that you could get a Disco 4 with a 5.0 Jag V8. I thought to myself, “what is not to like?” - and so it came to pass. Years ago, in the Army in Germany, we could get tax-free motors, and I had a TDi Disco 1/facelift, and then the (Rover) V8 Disco 1/facelift. Nice as they were, the Disco 4 is vastly superior. Disco 1s were based on RR Classics, and the D4 is larger in every dimension than the RR Classic.
This review was very well done, and I agree with all points except the engine-related ones, as mine is quite different.
Matt - come on over and review mine :)
I have 2007 LR3 in Canada and bought it for 11 thousand with 180 thousand kilometers and have owned it for 7 years and put 5 thousand into it but I do not regret it that thing still drives better than any other SUV I have been including my wife's 2015 Honda pilot and I would like to upgrade to the LR4 just simply because its starting to feel a dated in 2022 however it still runs great
Here's another thumbs up for the Disco 4. I've had my 2010 model nearly 10 years now. Got it still under warranty and that's when the compressor went, so that was replaced with a newer one which is more reliable. But they do wear out the arms, usually the front lower ones first followed by the rear upper ones. Done them. Apart from that, just small things really. Maybe I've been lucky. But in any case, when they work, they are a real dream to drive. I've also used mine off road, doing game keeping work with half a ton of feed in the back, dogs in there and four muddy booted compatriots. No other car combines being a luxury express with being so capable off road as the D4. But you do need to set dosh aside for the bills. And the tax is crippling. You pays your money, you takes your choice.
I owned a 2011 reg but 2012 spec car that turned out to be one of the press review cars for the upgrade and which appeared in several videos. It was easily the best all round car I've had. Despite the many potential problems, the one thing that prompted me to move on was the widely reported crank bearing shell problems. This was reinforced after several conversations with the LR indy I used for servicing. He always had several wrecked engines in for repair where possible or replacement. The fact that LRs own warranty wouldn't cover that problem was the killer. All of the other issues you can expect and I suppose you cope with, but the eye watering cost of a replacement engine was simply too huge to entertain.
But Matt says you should put your trust in “luck”.
they do cover it , LR replaced mine FOC
@@ashleybarker937
So LR replaced the engine/Broken Crank - was that when out of Warranty ?
@@jameslindley924 yes, new engine supplied and fitted. Car was bought from LR main dealer and had full LR history.
a turd is a turd no matter what way you dress it up
After you fold down the back of the rear seats, pull cord underneath the front of the seat base and they push down to have a completely flat floor. Brilliant design.
Fantastic cars! We have an LR3 and are looking again at an LR4 - yes in the 16 months we've had our V6 HSE LR3 its had 2 batteries, 5 air shocks, one AC blower motor, pads all round and this week we had our 3 rd air compressor fitted.. but, its still a great car. Read the handbook becaiuse when you fold the middle row of seats down, pull one more lever and they all collapse FLAT into the floor, something I find really good. It gives you a loadspace that will fit a double bed into.
Thank you for answering a question I had on this video 👌
My Pleasure. Incidentally our LR3 is back in the workshop, flood waters this time did something bad to the electrics!@@kieran285
2016 HSE, 7 years first owner. No problem so far except that parking brake. Just keep it off. I parking anyway on flat surface garage. Randomly checked to see if working and it is working.
True to be told I used it mostly as mall crowler.
41,500 km. I guess that's why!
200k on the clock and my disco 3 is still going, cracking cars these discos whether it be the 3 or 4!
Best straight-to-the point review Ive seen. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Best car I have ever owned. My Disco 4 SE 3.0 TDV6 currently has 190.000 km and still drives like a dream. As with every car, regular proper maintenance saves costly headache in the long run
Matt, thank you for your honest review. Disco 4 is now a contender to replace my crashed RR Sport. Happy New Year
I have a 2014 Discovery XXV (25th Anniversary Edition) It hasn’t missed a beat since I got it. And have had to change tyres and a set of brake pads and that’s it.
Why the issue with the cost of running a diesel, been driving them since 2007 and quite honestly the fuel consumption is way better than petrol and i've never had the problems with dpf or egr but then again I do drive miles and not short runs so there you go
Hi there a really honest and fair representation of the Land Rover Discovery 4. After just righting off my Audi Q7 last week due to flooding where we now live, I am looking at the Land Rover Discovery 4 as an alternative vehicle. Roads where I live now are prone to flooding after moving close to the wales border last autumn. We are looking at one on or around 2015 with late 40k to mid 50k on the clock. Good tips regarding electronic hand break, air suspension, cam belt etc and they are questions that we will be asking. Thanks again for producing this video👍
Have a 2012 disco 4 this 2 years...apart from service and tyres it has behaved well...servicing and how you treat any vehicle is half the battle
I one of these , same year , I would say the best car I’ve ever had. It was a do everything , go anywhere vehicle. It was reliable but I always had the potential high repair bills in the back of my mind. My like for Land Rover changed when they discontinued it , the new ones are just not the same. This is the last of the proper 4x4’s. My brother has a discovery 2 and owned that for the past 21 years , he doesn’t look after and bits break but it still keeps going.
Thinking of buying a later model Discovery 4 and this video was very helpful.
Thanks.
I've since been told by a few guys in the know not to touch the 4, shame it's a nice car.
@@RobEvansWoodsman Don't listen to them, take the plunge, they're fantastic!
V8 does 15 to 20 mpg. Diesel 30mpg. I believe the D3 4.4 petrol V8 hse is the most reliable and long lived by far. The diesels have all sorts of issues with age.. horrible job to replace timing belts, breaking crankshafts. The D3 still had a proper dipstick as opposed to the ridiculous and flawed electronic oil level monitoring brought in with the d4. Land Rover decided to mount it inside the crankcase with the hot oil, so fails and is an absolute pain to replace. The rear seat base can go down so you have a completely flat rear load area... Great for overnight camping when there are bears around. Yes, this is my North American perspective. I still have my d3 HSE V8 and I've owned lots of LRs. For many reasons I find d3/d4 the best LR ever. They can be great but do your research on LR forums etc. 4.4v8 is the most reliable and long lived.
Thank you for this material, just bought one. White, 2011, SDV6. Now I don’t know, do I more love it or more be scared of it ;)
Honestly, 2010-2014, were the best when it came to car making.
Cars were functional, every feature, you needed. Lately cars just have extras that you can go so long without even using.
Just a shame those were the dodgy year's for 2l BMW diesels
2012-13 is the sweet spot in the US. 5.0L V8, Bluetooth, and low range standard. Most 2014-16’s don’t have low range.
Loved my 2006 Discovery 3. The ride and comfort were a dream. Power average. Looks a head turner at the time. This looks even better.
Had our d4 for coming up 2 years now, 2012 hse lux with 92k, 13k of them with us, without any issues. It’s used as a tow vehicle and light off-roading round our farm. Only thing I’d swap it for is a new defender.
Ditto once the prices come down & get my moneys worth out of the oldish girl 😁👌🏻😂
Great review 👍 Just bought a 2013 Disco 4 SDV6 HSE Luxury, just under 86,000 miles. Very nice! Had a Disco 1 years ago when they were current.
I bought the cheapest D3 on the market with a bunch of problems from a seller who new nothing about the vehicle, got it for a bargain. Had to spend a bit to fix up the issues but parts are easily sourced out of the UK and there is heaps of information available if you fix stuff yourself.
Nothing had been serviced other than engine oil, so had to spend a bit replacing all fluids and doing the timing belt & oil pump.
Had one front airbag start to leak (after 12 years and 200,000miles it had done ok in my book), so repalced the front pair.
After the inital set of repairs it's been a great vehicle, the only thing I'd replace it with in a facelift D4 but the amount of crap I throw in the back (all seats folding flat is fantastic!) I'm sure I'd ruin a nice new(ish) D4 in no time, so will stick with my D3.
lr3 and are the most beautiful cars ever made.
I own lr3 4.0litre petrol which to me is best discovery ever.
However, I would wish you covered the lr3 V6 petrol in one of your videos.
Apart from not so good fuel economy, this car is excellent.
It doesn't have a lot of power but it's fast and very good looking on those 18" 5 spoke rims ....it eats hills like yums.
To me it beats the diesel lr3 and 4 hands down in all spheres.
It's a head turner imported from Japan to Kenya in 2017 it's one of the few petrol lr3s we have in Nairobi.
Absolutely stunning!
I had a D4 HSE 2010. Amazing machine but it started to get silly on repairs.
The car itself is fantastic and I’d love another. However it’s not cheap to maintain. They have a great capability but are badly designed underneath and break at the point you really don’t want it too!
I had a 2010 version of this with 100k miles and exported abroad as part of an illfated move to Africa….it’s a very solid car. The engine is beautiful, super smooth and a big improvement on that terrible 2.7 unit in the Disco 3. Incredibly practical - 7 real seats. The infotainment is woeful and almost impossible to retrofit but a Bluetooth adapter and phone holder made it manageable. I’m only 28 so I put a body kit on mine and with black alloys to make it look less “farmer” and it gave serious G wagon vibes. Only issues I would say is that they are more thirsty than the X5 or ML/GLE equivalents and you feel like you could topple over if you go into a corner with a bit of steam. But they’re wonderful off road and smooth when going straight….if not for the anti diesel climate of today would still be a great used buy!!
Infotainment?? look out of the fucking window mate.
What body kit did you fit ?
See after watching this vid I'm now tied I've been a Volvo fan since birth and looking to get something that capable of light to medium off roading for camping, Mountain biking, Astrophotography etc and an Xc09 is what I've been thinking of but now I've been looking at these Disco's and I'm impressed
I love my Disco 4 HSE 5.0 V8 petrol.... it has been trouble-free since i bought it 13+ years ago.... it is 2010 model and currently at 165 000 km...
By the way, the only problem i had was the key fob rubber peeling off... sooooo irritating
Great review. I love these machines. I’m seriously considering getting a Disco 4
Always value your opinion on car choice,and like yourself am a range rover deadhead particularly the l322 i've owned four ff model's throughout the ranges ,not a deisel fan because i'm not looking for a defender, i'm running a volvo v70 petrol for the last 3 years which has been flawless, i'm so missing my green oval fix,for some reason i'm considering the disco 4 SDV6 i'm doing my homework on the car and this insight adout the model from your judgement has been the usual standard thank you very very much
11:06 I disagree. LR4’s are much cheaper to run that a RR (I’ve owned both and I am currently on my 2nd LR4). This is mainly due to the price difference in parts. For example, air struts on a RR are twice the price of an LR4 air strut-and if you have a Supercharged RR with the active dampening system be prepared to have a hole blazed $$$ through your pocket. Land Rover (as well as aftermarket parts manufacturers) up-charge the price on parts due to the Range Rover name.
I had a D4 and I always cared for it extremely well. However, that still didn’t stop it having far too many issues. The only issue I didn’t suffer from was a snapped crank so sold it before that happened
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This 2012 onwards?
@@MobilediscowirralCoUk yes, I also had a TDV6 (2010) and pretty much the same. Love them but was bitten too many times
@@cryptoleed5646 what mileage you seem to notice same parts worn down? After dreaded 80,000
I had a white one! 2015 facelift HSE... absolutely loved it, the only reason I sold it was I couldn't live with not knowing when or if the crank would fail. Sold it for more than I bought it for and got a Defender. I miss the split tailgate.
Beautiful car, but indeed our 2015 ate its crankshaft for Christmas dinner last year. Great while it lasted
Split tailgate is one of the biggest let downs for the D5. I'd get an X5 or X7 over D5, RRS or new Defender just for the split tailgate
Always brilliant from start to finish. Great experience and knowledge!!
I know a couple who can afford any car but his wife will not be parted from her Disco4, she has said she will keep it until it can’t move. It is their car of choice to go to Cornwall to deal with their 30 holiday cottages.
Great Cars and no more expensive to repair than any Toyota Land Cruiser / Prado or Nissan Patrol. It is the annoying things that can cost money, but preventative maintenance stops most things. The most annoying failure was the front crank oil seal, that should have some sort of retainer but doesnt and can pop out. Which happened in my case. So as part of the process it got a new oil pump, timing belt and tensioners about 100,000kms earlier than it needed. The other things are compressor failure (inevitable), door actuator and if you get any water under the bonnet TCM module. Having said that an EGR delete and a decent fuel map and the 2.7 can go harder than a SDV6 3.0 litre. The only wish on the 2.7 would have been the 8spd. It is one of the nicest 4x4s I have ever owned and puts so many other top name 4x4s to shame off road easily. Yes thay can be expensive to fix but get some repair prices on Toyota's and Jeeps. The plus side with all Land Rovers is there is a huge aftermarket industry and parts if we buy them from the UK and have sent to Australia are pretty good. You do need to be mechanically minded though. I love mine most of the time but hate it at times too with stupid thing and the typical LR Engineering where engineers seem to either not talk to each other in the design phase and go oh crap when it is put together or are just grossly incompetent. Would I have another? Probably. But more likely will be an Ineos. Most of the ridiculing is based on myth and people with no experience with Land Rovers. We currently have a 2011 D4 with a lot of HSE options thrown in, A D2 V8 and a Defender TD5. The Defender in standard mode is hands down the best 4x4 bar none. But the D4 is more comfortable and not far behind. The D2 V8 is just fun to drive.
Ran a D4 commercial on landmark alloys and whacked the miles on. Mine was a 2015, never missed a beat. Best car ever.
You seem to forget the chocolate snapping crankshaft issue on these cars... yes, a very nice car, but keep around 7k in your running budget for a new engine at any point!
Mine was fantastic right up to the point where the crankshaft snapped at 160,000 km. I believe the issue was remedied for MY2015 (both 2.7 and 3.0 diesel had this issue). I won’t buy another Landrover which is disappointing as they are awesome. Like a great relationship you need trust, mine is gone.
I agree with you Matt with this car . I would love to own one. Very practical car lots of power and best of all its got cup holders .thought that remark of the cup holders would make you smile 😂. I like your sense of humour in all your videos. You are a natural. You would make a good preacher.
But you were made to be a car salesman . Stuck at what you are good at.
And you will become UK 🇬🇧 best loved car salesman
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Genuinely amazing content,i always want one but i can not afford to maintain one,so i need a new line of work to be able to have one, life changing episode this one :-) ,i can say
I see no point in buying this over an L405 if the running costs are somewhat similar.
No mention of the elephant in the room: crank snapping? Apparently made of celery and go without warning. Scraps the engine. Looking at a £10k bill. Or sell as spares / repairs for about £2.
The diesel engine is a ticking time bomb! As lr entoesjast ive met a lot of d3-d4 owners and a lot had problems with turbo’s , handbreake gone broken, crankshaft failure at low millages,..
They are just not reliable cars. The main bearings failed in the tdv6 in my disco 3 at 118k miles. Cannot trust them at all.
Yup.. if you want one get a d3 with the 4.4 v8 petrol. Mega reliable
I had one. I loved it. I want it back
Just changed my D5 HSE luxury for a D4 and will not look back, overall a better looking car and it feels like I can use this for everything that it was designed for and not just tippy toe around like in the D5, great video…
Funny because technically the d5 is more capable off road though doesn't give that impression. I found one so harsh on the ride compared to the D4 and the rear seating position js shocking on the D5 and a less practical rear opening size.
@@jameshogg601 totally agree, I use mine for off road use, and the D4 feels great the D5 made my toes curl every now and again, plus I put the seats down in the D4 and its a size of an average garage..
@bcz 93 is it really that different? I keep toying with the idea of chopping in my 181k SDV6 D4 for the D5 ( I actually like the look too) is it a bit German for doing the proper stuff or something else ?
@@willwonka1325 get it on an extended test drive and see is the best thing you can do and see if your uses play into the d5s strengths is all I can suggest. I know a couple of people who much prefer the d5.
They feel like two completely different cars but that being said we tried 3 brand new demo D5s and they all were completely different from eachother too.
@@willwonka1325 I was sick of the D5 with electric rear doors been a pain, electric folding seats been a pain, rattles from the seats not fully resetting.. etc just think the D4 is a proper work horse and a family car,
Absolutely love my Disco4 HSELux 2016, it does exactly what you say.
You didn't really mention the crankshaft much and even though mine has only done 36kmiles, it went!!! However since I had a full factory service history of six years and extended warranty it had a replacement engine for free.. phew lucky or what!! My local dealership is run by a fantastic service manager who knows the meaning of customer satisfaction, I said that before the engine replacement too by the way.
I don't intend to replace it anytime soon, it just does what I need it to do, in comfort and style... oh and the dogs love it too with loads of space for them at the back
The crankshaft problem - does it only affect the 3.0 diesel and is it caused due to a design flaw?
@@GGoblin1 Not being mechanically minded in any way, I can only say what happened to me and from what I have read..... sorry ..
@@Bimmly is your car equipped with the 3.0 diesel?
@@GGoblin1 Yes.. SDV6...
@@GGoblin1 Yes, the metal along the crankshaft between where the various conrods connect to the crankshaft is far too thin... especially between 2 and 3 cylinder (i think it was there). Trouble is there is no preventive maintenance you can do and no waring sign. Some engines last 300,000km with no issue and poor servicing, others break at 100,000 or less with immaculate maintenance. It may also be a metallurgical weakness on specific cranks. Some people think there may be an issue with an injector that causes stress on the crank, others suggest wading (hto engine quickly cooled). The same engine was used in other vehicles ranging from Jaguars to Peugeots (it was a Ford engine co/developed with PSA) and there were no crank issues. Probably not an ideal engine for such a large and heavy vehicle.
Without a doubt the D4 is the best of the lot! There are bargains to be found out there. Definitely recommended!
I have to say it. In Australia if you want to drive to the centre, take a Landrover. If you want to drive back, take a Toyota. another enjoyable video Matt.
I have had my 2011 D4 towing a twin axle campervan through central Australia on 4wd only roads in the wet season and at times a minimum of 400KM, from the nearest person, no UHF or cell phone coverage, loaded up with kids, wife, extra fuel and beer. We lived. (and had a great time). Still have the car, it's too good to flog.
No, you really don’t have to say it.
This has to be one of the most irritating and tiresome old cliches on the web.
Anything original? No?
I’ve got the exact same model in santorini black metallic........LOVE IT!
We’ve had a 2020 D4 for 4 years. It’s a family car and can fit three child seats abreast in the second row.
There was a bit to spend in the beginning - the stuff the previous owner didn’t want to fix - rusty brake lines and worn suspension arms, but since then it’s been fine - these cars are fairly easy to service if you’re that way inclined and as they have a dedicated following, there’s lots of how to videos on UA-cam, so you can do a lot of this stuff yourself. Oil filters, brakes and even the gearbox oil change can be tackled (you’re better off getting it flushed though). They’ll be around for a long time providing the engines last, they may be a bit wobbly and creaky but they’re built like tanks.
Are you a time traveler
@@49niloc Ha ha, I was thinking the same thing! Assume he means a 2010 vehicle.🚗
@@49niloc 2010 😁
Mine was great when it worked and it did quite a lot except when it didnt and when it did I worried about the next time it wouldnt and how much that would cost. So i sold it while it worked and while silly people wanted to pay silly amounts of money for it. Result.
Thank you for the most insightful and practical review I've read
We just got our 3rd Discovery 4, after having a Range Rover Autobiography (4.4) and discovery sport in between. Really can’t beat them imo.
Thanks for the video. I am contemplating buying one from our local garage. It's a 2011 SDV6 XS. 66k miles. Full service history. The garage has just had a new service done and changed the cambelt. Asking £16,995 probably knock the £995 off. Its immaculate. Does that sound like a deal. I really like the look of it. Almond leather inside.
I'd absolutely have one if it wasn't for the propensity to snap crankshafts on the diesels. Seems to be more prevalent here in Australia, I guess not helped by our habit of towing large things. Which is exactly what I would do with one.
regular oil changes is what they like.
@@stephenmadone1230 Sure, good oil is key, but you think that is the primary cause of an epidemic of snapped cranks?
@@patricksproule6709 , I think more frequent oil changes than as per the LR log book schedule somewhat helps to mitigate the risk. If you have time this video goes into some detail.
ua-cam.com/video/pD9_d4uJPq8/v-deo.html