For reliability go for the land cruiser, as a car as a package I would go for the disco. If you want an offroad vehicle buy a defender! But remember tyres are more or as important as the vehicle itself!
As an Aussie who has been through his 'Landy experience' I have wondered if perhaps the servicing of them in the UK is better or something. I've owned two Landies are in the end it was the lack of confidence in their reliability that was it for me. With that in mind I opted for two Made In Japan 4x4's for our property [a Mitsubishi Pajero and a Toyota Troopcarrier], and I'm pleased I did. If Landrover can sort out their reliability issues, they will be on a real winner. But until then......nope.
I wouldn’t trust Land Rover ever again, they falsely failed our car on it’s MOT trying to get £2800 out of us for un-required work, never again, sold the car and now have a Land Cruiser.
@@GeoffreyCapes But they are let's be honest, no ounce of class, less refinement, less off road tech, not as cheap or reliable as people make them out to be. Purchased by the riff raff for the Tescos run.
I hope they changed the suspension from the Disco 1, it has way to much body roll, very unnerving for any driver. Go back to the stability of leaf springs and then feel the better ride. Compare equivalent vehicles, not a base model against a higher range model. Very biased result.
there's one difference between the Toyota and the Land Rover. The Toyota Landcruiser was tested in the Australian outback where as the Land Rover Discovery wasn't
Only owned 1 Landrover..a Discovery 3 and mainly used on roads. Trouble was the repair costs. 1 year of owning from new it developed an oil leak...£1k to fix. Then over the years had about 4 EGR valves. Turbo went with the torque converter...bye bye Landrover.
@Msmoraine7 it is not more reliable, because the Toyota is the one that u see that wen it reaches the 100-200,00 mile mark, it is going to break down more easier, and they are hell a hard 2 fix, my parents have an 02 discovery, and in 3 years, changed brakes once, and did not even need to, just did it because we felt like it, all we did was put gas in it, and do oil and filter, so yeah, a cruiser cant take the driving that we have done on our discovery.
umm yeah, I'm a mechanic for landrover. They are absolute shit. The reason why i work on them is because i get paid alot to do so, and no one else will. never had a problem with my cruiser
senor250 eh that's not that bad.... but then again since almost everything is electrically controlled i guess it is lol. i dont understand why us brits cant make good electric systems i mean how hard can it be... its not like some mouse chews the wires on every single jaguar and land rover. i still love them though
100 agree with you Land rover sucks Engine problems( chain problems,oil pressure problems,top end bottom engine problems,etc,etc Suspension problems.( Airbags suspension) Toyota its for life
I have a 2000 yota 4runner, 275000 miles nothing more than usual maintenance. Timing belt, brakes, fan belts and oil changes. Ive driven it on beaches and in the snowy mountains of wyoming. Love that thing.
scottishbadboy1 I was only messing. Toyotas are great. I had the avensis and it had 279'000 miles when I sold it. I had very few issues. To be fair I do think that land rovers perform better off road but the Toyota is more reliable and cheaper to maintain. It's swings and roundabouts but I love them both
I love my Discovery 4 - in and out of fields all day and never misses a beat - on the road it is awesome v6 twin turbo. Had one of the original discoverys and it was always breaking down. Now progressed through discovery 3 to new discovery 4 and so impressed. I haven't tried the Landcruiser and would never bad mouth one as they have some much respect for off road use, but 10 months after buying disco still makes me smile when I drive it.
Our Landcruiser (colorado) is 16 years old now and still going strong. None of the fancy new electronic off-road controls, all mechanical and all the better for it. Never broken down once in all those years and fantastic on any road in any weather condition. I've never seen a driver review that complains about reliability whereas Landrover disco reviews are full of reliability complaints. If you were setting off for a 1200 mile drive across Europe in the middle of winter, which would you choose?
Desiree Butler Pim Europe during winter time is mostly just fast expansive motorways where you can cruise at 100mph plus all day long, so i would take an Audi RS6
I had experience with both in developing nations; the Toyota was actually more expensive to maintain than our Land Rover vehicles. Today, I own a LR3, and in my office I spend less on repairs than anyone, my 2007 works flawlessly.
Land Cruiser will always come out on top for long trips in the Aussie outback. I trust it more than the Discovery for handling 50 degree days for thousands of kms.
The thing we need to take into considerations is that although as he said the land cruiser has a little more grip, this was the basic model, so it's safe to say that the LC5 which comes with all the bells and whistles (kdss, rear diff lock, mts, crawl ctrl etc) would have a lot more grip.
Interesting comment and one that I agree with. Just a side note, I would say all but I better say almost all the 4 wheel drive vehicles out in the Dubai desert are Toyotas. Out of hundreds, literally, you wont see a Rover of any description in site.
But it would be way more expensive than the Disco too. I have this Prado and it's great. The Disco is also great (though pricer) but here the Disco is the #1 rich soccer mom car option.
cinqo7 I drive a '99 4 Runner. Which would be considered a smaller-ish Land Cruiser in the UK. Probably about the same size as this Land Cruiser here. And it has over 350,000 km on it, been through a few accidents and it's shrugged off everything that has been thrown at it. I drove one of these new discoveries with the 6 liter supercharger and it's impeccably sublime. It's as smooth as the new Porsche V6's. And it has all the right things going for it as a truck. It feels right, it looks right and it makes mincemeat of any rough road. This truck could scale Everest. Only problem is I can't determine if the Discovery is as bulletproof as my ancient Toyota 4Runner. When Top Gear tried to destroy that old Hilux pickup, they were right. All old Toyota trucks are indestructible and can take whatever is thrown at them. I hope it's as true with the newer big 4x4's they make, but I wonder if the same could be said for the Land Rover. Simple and rugged is always tried and true.
Wonder which one is still going strong without having had a fortune spent on failed engines,turbos or gearboxes and which will now be worth almost double the other.....
I doubt it, the TDV6 in that Disco 4 is renowned for issues, on top of having to remove the body to do the cam belts every 7 years, coupled with the ZF 6 speed gearboxes known issues.Rhe later ones from about 2012 had the 8 speed which is far more reliable but the issues with the engine and cranks are still there. I really like the Disco 4 as a car, and the interior is nicer but you’d be mad to buy one over the Toyota if reliability was a concern.
Oliver you definitely don’t have to remove the body to do the belts. Let’s not forget the service schedule for the Toyota is half the kms (which if you serviced the disco like that it would have a far longer service life). I drive Toyota’s off road with work and I own a disco. The Toyota will not last any longer if abused like a work car is, however neither vehicle is without its flaws, cruiser injectors anyone? Either way if you’re using them off road then at least they’re being used.
You do to get to the rear fuel pump belt, well I did on an RRS which is the exact same design as the Disco 3/4. The Toyota injectors are a complete non issue on this model, they were on the earlier 120 series and got recalled and rectified pretty quickly, unlike the TD/SD V6 engine in this Disco which has had known crank snapping issues from back when it was a 2.7 right up to its use in the D4,L405 and newer RRS!. Landcruisers are definately much more durable, although Land Rovers are nicer to actually drive. If I had to pick a Land Rover product I’d go for one of the very last L322 Range Rovers with the 4.4 TDV8 purely because it’s the least likely to have major issues-8 speed gearbox,no crank issues, no turbo issues of the earlier 3.6. I like and appreciate Land Rovers I just wouldn’t own another because of quality issues, if they sorted them out they’d be brilliant.
Land Cruiser for me, simply because it will last forever, nearly. I nearly treated myself to one last Xmas but I was drunk, and on Boxing day I bottled it 🤣. If I could choose one car for everything, it would be top of my list. Ive driven most models from Land Rover, starting with the Range Rover in 1989 but sadly most have had problems, from poorly fitted trim to electrical and heating system faults being the most common. Good to drive apart from that.
I live in africa for a long time, and what i see is land cruisers and sequoias going around everywhere!!!its a very tough jeep.now the land rovers in general are very high class jeeps but use them for a hard jorney around africa??no way!!they brake a lot(excluding the defender) the mechanical parts are very expensive and rare!so in my opinion toyota, for this kind of environment win no doubt!but in a city life i would choose land rovers again excluding the defender.because the ride is smooth it feels exclusive, and may be a little bit more practical..
bob bob I don't know about Toyota in general, but Landcruiser is the king of the hill in terms of reliability. In hilly country like Nepal, nothing will last. The only few that survives are Landcruiser the Jeep Wranglers, and the mitsubishi pajero. The LC will outlast every others twice as long giving you good 20 years. The Land Rover is hogwash, a year or two offroad then it's incapable more ends up in cities.- Waste of money
I bet that a Japanese review will tip the advantage to Toyota :) But it has a reason that the Landcruiser is on 1st place in sales. Non British review and non Japanese review will give Toyota the superior win. Me not bein a mechanic... I would buy a Toyota! I would not like to get stuck with a broken car. I don't rely on British engineering.
wouldn't take a land rover out bush in australia, that thing fucks up and your on your own, take a landcruiser and if you ever do run into a spot of bother, you can always fix it or theres a toyota dealership close enough to fix it. when i say close enough that could be 1000km away. lol
lol false, unless you own a land rover you can;t really speak from what you hear about them. i own a disco and my dad has a 85 defender. and my disco never broke down. besides changing normal car parts, brakes tires, oil normal shit..... other than that i never once had a problem with. and toyota has just as the same chance to brake down if not more because its a lower quality vehicle.
Toyota is not a lower quality vehicle, the reputation of the company is based on the highest quality of build, engineering, and materials. Land Rovers are a vehicle to lease and get rid of when warranty is over
I haven't heard British to say a bad word for British car :) However it is more important what is the purpose you are buying the car for... If you take it to drive the children to school - OK then take the Disco... BUT if you going to use it to cross a desert no doubt Land Cruiser is the one - it is just much more reliable and durable car...
Libby Schulz There are statistics, owner satisfaction surveys and other data enough to make judgement without own both cars and drive them at same time and same way.
Libby Schulz Well... I don't have personal experience, but some said: "Land Rover turn owners into mechanics since 1948" :) However from what I read, past last decade LR vastly improve reliability, but it is still way behind from the best in class. I personally believe it is all about maintenance - put some TLC to your car and you going to have good reliable car. ... another however - if I put my money on car I will never take VW or LR - but this is my vision, there are millions of people who drive both brands. Regarding the brands reliability - well Mercedes put hundreds of million on development your dad to drive safety and reliable car enjoying power and comfort. In other hand Kia made cheep mass production cars but to lower the price doesn't spent so much on testing and of course there are differences. If we compare Toyota LC to LR Discovery - Toyota use cheaper materials and spend more for technical and reliability development. Land rover on the other side turn to luxury brand, and spent more money for leather upholstery then stronger axles knowing that 80% of the time their car will be cruising on highway and 18% will do light off-road. Of course everything is relative - there was times when Mercedes try to save money and built awful cars, and now are times when Kia give 7 years guarantee. It is the customers decision - simple (a bit ugly) but reliable Toyota, or good looking luxury SUV which is not so reliable. There are cars for each taste and purposes.
+Libby Schulz Well, LR sill has its weak points, it is good to read in LR forum which are the common problems for your model to be prepared what to check and what to carry for. For overland trip I still prefer Japanese, but for a outdoor activities near by civilization Landy is good enough. And finally if you like this car enjoy it and don't think if it will broke down or not. Look on the positive side - if it broke down on the middle of nowhere you will always remember that trip :)
I love that generation of LR Discovery, possibly one of the greatest 4x4s ever - can go almost anywhere offroad yet it's supreme onroad too. It absolutely looks the part too! But, buy a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado and you know it'll do 200K-500K miles....... If you're lucky enough to live in Australia, you can still buy the 70 Series Toyota Land Cruiser - which will do 500K miles easily. Most Discos, after 100K, start to get very expensive to run, and will probably be spending more time in the garage than being used for its intended purpose. If you look at most footage, these days, of people overlanding in Australia or Africa, or what the UN or other NGOs use in remote locations - it's generally a Toyota, and for good reason.....
I have worked in Africa, in the outback of Tanzania, Liberia and Madagascar and outside of the military police in Tanzania who did have the little jeep like Landrovers(and they were gifts from Great Britain) one never sees any Land Rovers at all. I met one fellow who was driving an older Land Rover in Tanzania but even that one had a Land Cruiser engine and running gear. This former East German had bought the Land Rover which was not running and a LandCruiser which had tumbled down a hill and installed the Land Cruiser diesel and running gears into the Land Rover. Even the Tanzanian military looked with envy at our Toyota Hi-lux 4wd's and tried to arrange a swap with our English mechanic, a Land Rover jeep for a Toyota Hi-lux 4wd for their mounted machine gun carrier. No deal. In Liberia, once you leave Monrovia or Buchanan and head north towards the Guinea Ivory Coast border up by Yekepa the roads had become little more than dirt roads and although the Chinese were busy paving most roads many were yet untouched and scarred by the war. You may see a few LandRovers in Monrovia or Buchanan but on the roads going north were mostly Land Cruisers with broken down Izuzu Troopers on the side of the road. Land Cruisers rule because of their reliability especially the Safaris which never break down and just keep on running. They may be rough but they are tough!!!
MY LR3 (discovery across the pond) just crossed 250,000 with the original engine transmission and drive trian with no major repairs to any of them....... that's something that only a Toyota would typically achieve but here in Utah I've come across several LR3's with 250,000-300,000 and still going strong...... this is a whole new kind of Land rover and after the dismal reliability of my previous land rovers (range rover classic, discovery I) I am sure glad of it.
The big difference between the UK and US is the sort of roads and driving. If a car only drives long distances o big, smooth roads it will go on for ever. However in the UK everything is very close together with very poor quality roads and it chews cars to pieces. That coupled with a wet climate and lots of salt spreading in winter means cars simply don't last as long. For example a friend of mine has a Ram 1500 here in the UK and its done 70,000 miles and stuff is starting to go wrong on it. Just the way it is however
The Discovery 4 was the best looking offroader of all times, no doubt about it. Sorry, LR fooked up the new model (5). But I would go with the Land Cruiser, because it's a body on frame design and will also not break down as often as the Disco.
it depends what you want one is a luxury car that is good off road the other is a good off roader and that's about it, live axle is not exactly a delight on the highway. so as an all rounder the Land Rover wins if all you want is and off roader possibly the Toyota but then if all you want is an off roader there are plenty of basic rural machines the will beat both
Hmm. For the commenters who are highlighting the Land Rover's questionable reliability, I suspect if you ask owners of later model LandCruisers about reliability, when their DPF filter has just failed AGAIN, you might get a different response.
In the UK we don't have the full range of Toyota 4x4's that other countries have. We have the Prado which Toyota just call "Land Cruiser" here, the Rav4 and the Hilux. We used to have the big 200 one, but it went out of production.
I have a 2010 Landcruiser and it is a landcruiser no it’s not a lc200 model but it is still a landcruiser prado is a model name used in other countries but mine is a LC14 Landcruiser and labelled as such .... is it as capable as the larger engined 200 models ? No idea . It’s still amazing and it is a landcruiser 👍🏽
I'm only joking. Actually, I do own both -2008 LC200 series and a 2010 LR4, and funnily enough both have been 100% reliable with 122k miles on the LC and 86K miles on the LR4.
Ah the trouble free Toyota myth keeps spreading through the media. I had a Toyota and don't get me wrong i loved it but it is no way trouble free especially the Yaris. e
Well get a Land Rover & you'll really know the meaning of it being "Off Road"....Either on the side of the road waiting for a tow or at a garage getting some part repaired.
I did 170,000+ with only a wheel bearing and mid section of the exhaust needed doing. Never had any other car do that well. I'll never touch German again which have by far been the worst and most costly problematic cars i've had. My parents had a Toyota with 200,000+ and the only problem they had was a brake caliper/ABS sensor issue at around 180,000. Nothing else out of the ordinary has gone wrong. My uncles 3 month old Golf Gen 7 packed up twice on the week i visited with him, both on the M11 motorway My friends _8 month old_ Skoda had to have the fuel injection system replaced after stranding her 3 times My Aunts Bentley GT cost her over $20,000 in repairs on the first year so she swapped it for a Rangey..... out of the frying pan into another one, as my cousin tells me its had several diff issues and is constantly plagued by electrical issues.
Did you guys hear the moderator saying “The Land Cruiser have a lot more grip on the road than the Discovery”! Then how is Land Cruiser the "second best" with that capability over the Discovery?
People literally think land rovers are the most unreliable things that break down constantly, if you ask me people just need an excuse because they know they just can’t afford a better car. I’m almost to 200k miles on my LR3 haven’t had a breakdown or any major repairs.
must we not forget ppl who buy machines like this have no money worries and will only keep them for a short time so it does not matter what fancy buttons will not be working the first owner will never see problems with them.
hornbytrainsets oh I watched the video ,the grand national took place recently in the uk,if you saw the pics from the car park its mostly filled with range rovers,rich ppl drive them,horse breeders drive them,they don't care if nothing works they buy them for what they are,they what to be seen in them they want to buy and support England,they are driven by the royal family, you don't think the queen would be seen in a common mans Toyota god no,no way.everybody drives Toyotas cos they want reliability cos they prob cant afford break down bills,where as those buying range rovers don't have money worries they are money no object ppl,Bernie ecclestone the owner of f1 sends his daughters and there minders around in range rovers.
***** yes, very true but im saying, you cant say "forget going off-road" i mean just watch the video! it did just that and its something that land rover is known for. its like saying a lamborghini isn't fast
i just hate andrew frankel reviews.... he just doesn't look pretty much convincing. plus, he has a way of testing very boring... but maybe thats just me
As an owner of a Disco III I must say that when I bought the car in 2007, I also went to Toyota and Mitsubishi. The guy is right, ON THE ROAD there is no comparison. Landy is in a whole different league - and I'm talking about the LRD3, not the car in test, which is improved version. When it comes to off-road the cars I believe are very close, so close that one can't see the difference. Anyway, after 7 years the car runs as new, no problems at all. Though I think a Toyota would last more, but for that to happen another 7 years must pass..
I like both Toyota and Land Rover and id personally own both if I could. At the moment I own a 29yr old Land Rover and the only thing thats broke on it was 5th gear. Best part of a old land rover like mine is that all the body parts can be removed and replaced easily, that includes the roof as well, cant do that in a cruiser.
This reportage is not objective. At the moment i have a landrover. Never again a land rover anymore. Bad quality, repairs repairs etc. Toyota land cruiser is many times better i heard.
For those who say Land Rovers are more expensive have no idea what they are talking about. A land cruiser in the U.S is 84k and LR4 is around 70k with all the bells and whistles and starts at 50k.
A friend of mine has a Disvovery 2 facelift and have a lot of problems with that car.. i drive a Toyota Landcruiser And no problems and the BMW E36 makes no problems too with 400Tkm and 24 years old... i hope uk can make cars in the Future.. at this time and the last years they made ceap crank things but not with the name car.. please uk learn to make cars and not crank stuff
The Toyota land cruiser is way more reliable, there is no point in buying an off roader that might get you back when the land cruiser will. If you don’t mind your car spending more time with your mechanic than you then buy the land rover.
So, they brought an land cruiser -fucking- PRADO with almost no equipment and a much more expensive LR discovery with special off road features to the rough snow test and concluded the LR is the better off roader? Well, that's a perfect way to boast the superiority of British engineering. Nicely done, British people.
Having owned both LR Disco and a Toyota LC, I'd have to say Landcruiser hands down. Reliability is the key issue here. My last Disco I sold it with 125K miles and she was crapping out (remember those horrible valves?). My LC has 230K and I've replaced very few wearable items only. She's a beast! I'd like to see a LR go over 200K w/o some serious engine work! You wont!
@@X50505 Seems like you haven’t got a clue between the word ‘if’ and ‘it’, you seem to be a person who hasn’t owned both cars, I’m presuming you’ve got a brand new Range Rover that’s never left the road! 🤣
@@GeoffreyCapes You know you're desperate when you're having to rely on typos as an argument. I've got 2 Land Rovers, a V8 D1 on 250k miles and a SDV6 D4 on 80k miles. Both bomb proof, but then again, I actually service them properly. I don't take them to the local peasant down the road who services your ridiculously over-priced, over-hyped peasant Toyota that had to copy the Land Rover name just to be taken seriously.
@@X50505 Of course you have, if you read on the other disrespectful comment you made to someone else you’d realise we’ve all had many Land Rovers, got a brilliant image of you driving around with a monocle and a monopoly top hat on, such a nobleman. 80,000km (49,000m) on the D4. Do you actually drive it anywhere? It’s 13 years old, obviously you realise that your local Land Rover dealership will turn their nose up at you for having such an old vehicle, most likely trying to get you to trade it in for a new one. How many oil leaks, electrical faults, parking brake ok? Land Rover - It’s not leaking oil, it’s marking its territory.
@@GeoffreyCapes I seriously doubt many of you have much experience with Land Rovers. Take Op's comment for example, claimed he'd like to see one get over 200k miles without serious engine work, that's around 320,000kms. That's an absolute joke of a comment considering most D1s and D2s these days are hovering around that. There's a TD5 D2 (the overall less reliable model) that has done over 1 million kms without any major engine work, just regular servicing. I said the fool doesn't have a clue and I stand by that. My D4 is on 130,000 kms. Also you do realise they made the Discovery 4 up until 2016, so I don't know why you've assumed they have to be 13 years old. Nor would I get a car serviced at a dealership anyway. Plenty of more affordable Land Rover specialists around who have probably been in the game a lot longer than the average dealership mechanic. No significant oil leaks that I'm aware of. Had a minor diesel leak a while back, but easily sorted. No electrical faults, parking brake works flawlessly. It gets a good workout too. City driving on the weekdays and rescuing bogged Land Cruisers on the weekends.
For reliability go for the land cruiser, as a car as a package I would go for the disco. If you want an offroad vehicle buy a defender! But remember tyres are more or as important as the vehicle itself!
If you want offroad vehicle buy G wagon with 3 locking diffs and reliability better than the defender (Y)
Aimz All Day buy a road map and avoid going off road. Joking :D
As a 3 time Landcruiser owner....
This was a very fair and non-biased assessment.
Well done.
As an Aussie who has been through his 'Landy experience' I have wondered if perhaps the servicing of them in the UK is better or something. I've owned two Landies are in the end it was the lack of confidence in their reliability that was it for me. With that in mind I opted for two Made In Japan 4x4's for our property [a Mitsubishi Pajero and a Toyota Troopcarrier], and I'm pleased I did. If Landrover can sort out their reliability issues, they will be on a real winner. But until then......nope.
Or maybe you just didnt know where to service them? Take them to any reputable LR specialist in Australia and you'll be fine.
I wouldn’t trust Land Rover ever again, they falsely failed our car on it’s MOT trying to get £2800 out of us for un-required work, never again, sold the car and now have a Land Cruiser.
@@GeoffreyCapes Peasants cars land cruisers.
@@X50505 - Exactly what Tata group want you to think, and I live where Land Rover was born, keep eating what you’re being fed schoolboy 🤣
@@GeoffreyCapes But they are let's be honest, no ounce of class, less refinement, less off road tech, not as cheap or reliable as people make them out to be. Purchased by the riff raff for the Tescos run.
I hope they changed the suspension from the Disco 1, it has way to much body roll, very unnerving for any driver. Go back to the stability of leaf springs and then feel the better ride. Compare equivalent vehicles, not a base model against a higher range model. Very biased result.
What's with the new discovery with the off center number plate? Every time I see one I think its been in an accident.
lets face it, the majority of people who buy these never take them off road, they only use them as fashion accessories.
there's one difference between the Toyota and the Land Rover. The Toyota Landcruiser was tested in the Australian outback where as the Land Rover Discovery wasn't
Only owned 1 Landrover..a Discovery 3 and mainly used on roads. Trouble was the repair costs. 1 year of owning from new it developed an oil leak...£1k to fix. Then over the years had about 4 EGR valves. Turbo went with the torque converter...bye bye Landrover.
Money isn't a problem when you buy a car of that standard.
@Msmoraine7 it is not more reliable, because the Toyota is the one that u see that wen it reaches the 100-200,00 mile mark, it is going to break down more easier, and they are hell a hard 2 fix, my parents have an 02 discovery, and in 3 years, changed brakes once, and did not even need to, just did it because we felt like it, all we did was put gas in it, and do oil and filter, so yeah, a cruiser cant take the driving that we have done on our discovery.
umm yeah, I'm a mechanic for landrover. They are absolute shit. The reason why i work on them is because i get paid alot to do so, and no one else will. never had a problem with my cruiser
Oh ok, what are the most problems you deal with?
72Disco1998 Most problems are electrical & suspension related
senor250
eh that's not that bad.... but then again since almost everything is electrically controlled i guess it is lol. i dont understand why us brits cant make good electric systems i mean how hard can it be... its not like some mouse chews the wires on every single jaguar and land rover. i still love them though
senor250 I've been lucky with the ones I have owned two DI's now a 99 DII but I have seen a lot of issues with the P38 and the 03 RR.
I've owned a couple of D2s and I think it's age that causes more problems in the long run.
Toyota means reliability for me, and I think that’s very important. It helps save cash in my pocket, and it always brings me home!
100 agree with you
Land rover sucks
Engine problems( chain problems,oil pressure problems,top end bottom engine problems,etc,etc
Suspension problems.( Airbags suspension)
Toyota its for life
Dpf problems with no assistance!
@@TDIPOWER2209 205,000 miles in my 2011 LR4. It's almost like Land Rover myths are as overblown as Toyota myths.
@@christiansaywhat4492 Agreed. 167k miles on my 3. Purrs like a kitten with no major issues. My dad's Toyota, new transmission before 100k
@@christiansaywhat4492 I'm in the middle of outta NOWHERE kinda obsessing and wanting to trade my 03 V8 runner...
2:43- "the Landrover has a multi-cylinder engine"... brutal
Even now after almost 9 years, these two are still remarkable machines. Looking forward to get one soon!
there's nothing like land cruiser! :D
Is true!😎
CAN YOU AFORD SOMETHING LIKE land rover >> > > ? ? > > ?
@@figarro22 afford the car or afford all the shitty breakdowns? Because i would rather keep on the road and off the hard shoulder
@@lukedevereux4103 just maintain it wisely, my dad’s friend has a 100k miles 2014 Range Rover autobiography and it’s really good
I have a 2000 yota 4runner, 275000 miles nothing more than usual maintenance. Timing belt, brakes, fan belts and oil changes. Ive driven it on beaches and in the snowy mountains of wyoming. Love that thing.
My 2007 4Runner has 373000 miles V8. No rust, no fuss!
Tu hi jeera bhai jindgi to
if the land cruiser was british it was no doubt the best off roader, im just sick of this.
l had a landrover defender once..I bought hilux`s ever since then
traitor!
+bob bob they have done me proud and I'm 6'4 so so much more room and comfort.."reliability" now there you have it need I say more
scottishbadboy1 I was only messing. Toyotas are great. I had the avensis and it had 279'000 miles when I sold it. I had very few issues. To be fair I do think that land rovers perform better off road but the Toyota is more reliable and cheaper to maintain. It's swings and roundabouts but I love them both
scottishbadboy1 The least safest pickup on the market, you better watch you don’t take a corner to quickly you might flip it....
My grandad had 2 defenders and they were nothing but problems. So went japanese every time after that other than the odd ford ranger pick up
Who Is Driving Land Rover Discovery 4?
The difference comes in the reliability and of course the oil leaks ;-)
difference also comes in price that most people cant pay for a car thats why land rover are 2nd to toyota
Where the LC beats the LR is…..RELIABILITY!!!!
LX : am I joke to you?
When one is highly mechanically inclined it’s cheaper to buy a Land Rover AND fix it lol 😂
I love my Discovery 4 - in and out of fields all day and never misses a beat - on the road it is awesome v6 twin turbo. Had one of the original discoverys and it was always breaking down. Now progressed through discovery 3 to new discovery 4 and so impressed. I haven't tried the Landcruiser and would never bad mouth one as they have some much respect for off road use, but 10 months after buying disco still makes me smile when I drive it.
I love my LR3 But I assure you that the Toyota will last longer IN ALL ASPECTS!!!
I'll take a cruiser thanks.
Our Landcruiser (colorado) is 16 years old now and still going strong. None of the fancy new electronic off-road controls, all mechanical and all the better for it. Never broken down once in all those years and fantastic on any road in any weather condition. I've never seen a driver review that complains about reliability whereas Landrover disco reviews are full of reliability complaints. If you were setting off for a 1200 mile drive across Europe in the middle of winter, which would you choose?
i have nissan xtrail 2.5 4x4 11 years old but stilll very strong and good,,
I drive a series 2A Land rover, almost 45 years old. It's my daily driver on and off road. I only clean the carb once a year, thats all.
Show us a video of it Maurice...We need proof :)
penvon Why should I ;) ? Look on the internet and see how many leafsprung Land rovers are still driving around the globe. Since mine is too ;)
Desiree Butler Pim Europe during winter time is mostly just fast expansive motorways where you can cruise at 100mph plus all day long, so i would take an Audi RS6
I had experience with both in developing nations; the Toyota was actually more expensive to maintain than our Land Rover vehicles. Today, I own a LR3, and in my office I spend less on repairs than anyone, my 2007 works flawlessly.
i love my LR but i know for a fact it will leave me stranded at some point
Land Cruiser will always come out on top for long trips in the Aussie outback.
I trust it more than the Discovery for handling 50 degree days for thousands of kms.
A Land Rover will get you anywhere you want, a Land Cruiser will get you back.
That's a maxim that's not really be proven
@murwaz and then the gas pedal on your toyota malfunctions and you drive off a cliff, and then toyota recalls 50,000 vehicles
Land Rover
UK test for UK car. I can feeeel the outcome
The thing we need to take into considerations is that although as he said the land cruiser has a little more grip, this was the basic model, so it's safe to say that the LC5 which comes with all the bells and whistles (kdss, rear diff lock, mts, crawl ctrl etc) would have a lot more grip.
You go into the desert in a Land Rover, but you come back out again in a Land Cruiser.....
Interesting comment and one that I agree with. Just a side note, I would say all but I better say almost all the 4 wheel drive vehicles out in the Dubai desert are Toyotas. Out of hundreds, literally, you wont see a Rover of any description in site.
That is not a Land Cruiser it is light version named Prado
The question is, which vehicle you used to record them?
Watching this in 2024 and all of the Toyota predictions were correct. Absolutely dependable in every aspect.
The winner is the one which will take you where you want to go off road and back again with no problems... We all know which one that is.
Jayson La Faber toyota and land rover
Land Cruiser
Jayson La Faber you're right, it is more reliable, however the new land rovers have become much more reliable
Jayson La Faber Totally agree go back to 1.55 it says it all
Toyota all the way then
keep calm and drive TOYOTA
The Toyota is ugly as fuck
+Drew M discovery looks like a condom
+Drew M ...obviously
land rover makes you a iconic man, with toyota... less flavour, i guess
Anthony B more pussies for sure~ 😌
Toyota forgives negligent owners on a budget with maintenance . Land Rover doesn’t forgive negligence when it comes to maintenance lol
That's not a proper land cruiser! The real one (200 series) would destroy the disco.
But it would be way more expensive than the Disco too. I have this Prado and it's great. The Disco is also great (though pricer) but here the Disco is the #1 rich soccer mom car option.
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I drive a '99 4 Runner. Which would be considered a smaller-ish Land Cruiser in the UK. Probably about the same size as this Land Cruiser here. And it has over 350,000 km on it, been through a few accidents and it's shrugged off everything that has been thrown at it. I drove one of these new discoveries with the 6 liter supercharger and it's impeccably sublime. It's as smooth as the new Porsche V6's. And it has all the right things going for it as a truck. It feels right, it looks right and it makes mincemeat of any rough road. This truck could scale Everest.
Only problem is I can't determine if the Discovery is as bulletproof as my ancient Toyota 4Runner. When Top Gear tried to destroy that old Hilux pickup, they were right. All old Toyota trucks are indestructible and can take whatever is thrown at them. I hope it's as true with the newer big 4x4's they make, but I wonder if the same could be said for the Land Rover. Simple and rugged is always tried and true.
DavidELD
It's important to look at repair and spare parts prices in which, I'm sure, Toyota has the lead advantage.
Ikr
Wonder which one is still going strong without having had a fortune spent on failed engines,turbos or gearboxes and which will now be worth almost double the other.....
The Land Rover of course.
I doubt it, the TDV6 in that Disco 4 is renowned for issues, on top of having to remove the body to do the cam belts every 7 years, coupled with the ZF 6 speed gearboxes known issues.Rhe later ones from about 2012 had the 8 speed which is far more reliable but the issues with the engine and cranks are still there.
I really like the Disco 4 as a car, and the interior is nicer but you’d be mad to buy one over the Toyota if reliability was a concern.
IceTrin you are joking I hope
Oliver you definitely don’t have to remove the body to do the belts. Let’s not forget the service schedule for the Toyota is half the kms (which if you serviced the disco like that it would have a far longer service life). I drive Toyota’s off road with work and I own a disco. The Toyota will not last any longer if abused like a work car is, however neither vehicle is without its flaws, cruiser injectors anyone? Either way if you’re using them off road then at least they’re being used.
You do to get to the rear fuel pump belt, well I did on an RRS which is the exact same design as the Disco 3/4.
The Toyota injectors are a complete non issue on this model, they were on the earlier 120 series and got recalled and rectified pretty quickly, unlike the TD/SD V6 engine in this Disco which has had known crank snapping issues from back when it was a 2.7 right up to its use in the D4,L405 and newer RRS!.
Landcruisers are definately much more durable, although Land Rovers are nicer to actually drive.
If I had to pick a Land Rover product I’d go for one of the very last L322 Range Rovers with the 4.4 TDV8 purely because it’s the least likely to have major issues-8 speed gearbox,no crank issues, no turbo issues of the earlier 3.6.
I like and appreciate Land Rovers I just wouldn’t own another because of quality issues, if they sorted them out they’d be brilliant.
Land Cruiser for me, simply because it will last forever, nearly. I nearly treated myself to one last Xmas but I was drunk, and on Boxing day I bottled it 🤣. If I could choose one car for everything, it would be top of my list. Ive driven most models from Land Rover, starting with the Range Rover in 1989 but sadly most have had problems, from poorly fitted trim to electrical and heating system faults being the most common. Good to drive apart from that.
I live in africa for a long time, and what i see is land cruisers and sequoias going around everywhere!!!its a very tough jeep.now the land rovers in general are very high class jeeps but use them for a hard jorney around africa??no way!!they brake a lot(excluding the defender) the mechanical parts are very expensive and rare!so in my opinion toyota, for this kind of environment win no doubt!but in a city life i would choose land rovers again excluding the defender.because the ride is smooth it feels exclusive, and may be a little bit more practical..
well Toyota's are cheaper not better than land rovers
bob bob I don't know about Toyota in general, but Landcruiser is the king of the hill in terms of reliability. In hilly country like Nepal, nothing will last. The only few that survives are Landcruiser the Jeep Wranglers, and the mitsubishi pajero. The LC will outlast every others twice as long giving you good 20 years. The Land Rover is hogwash, a year or two offroad then it's incapable more ends up in cities.- Waste of money
I bet that a Japanese review will tip the advantage to Toyota :)
But it has a reason that the Landcruiser is on 1st place in sales. Non British review and non Japanese review will give Toyota the superior win. Me not bein a mechanic... I would buy a Toyota! I would not like to get stuck with a broken car. I don't rely on British engineering.
Where is the Landcruiser?? All I see is a Prado and a Discovery!!
Landcruiser is not only the L200, there are the LC 76 and 70, and the Prado, which is better known for it last name and not as a LC, but it is.
They use a top line range rover against the baby landcruiser prado 150
Try it with a 200 series
wouldn't take a land rover out bush in australia, that thing fucks up and your on your own, take a landcruiser and if you ever do run into a spot of bother, you can always fix it or theres a toyota dealership close enough to fix it. when i say close enough that could be 1000km away. lol
owen patten you're probably right, but we are talking about the UK not Australian outback.
Right Owen, show the Toyota dealership in the middle of the Kimberly lol.
fredbrackely did I or did I not say that the dealership could be about 1000kms away???? but there's properly 1 not too far if ya really need it ey?!?
Same story in the kalahari and namib.
Totally academic, they're for doing the school run. If you're in the Australian outback then you are...LOST!
lol false, unless you own a land rover you can;t really speak from what you hear about them. i own a disco and my dad has a 85 defender. and my disco never broke down. besides changing normal car parts, brakes tires, oil normal shit..... other than that i never once had a problem with. and toyota has just as the same chance to brake down if not more because its a lower quality vehicle.
Toyota is not a lower quality vehicle, the reputation of the company is based on the highest quality of build, engineering, and materials. Land Rovers are a vehicle to lease and get rid of when warranty is over
If you wish to go in the jungle, get a Land Rover. If you want to get back from the jungle, get a Land Cruiser.
Not really true anymore.
camel trophy?
***** True
I Danny K. Shamo
Danny K. Shamo so I have to drive two vehicles that's pretty smart.
Disco 1, 300 TDI, decent tires. No computers, just brilliant engineering and driving skill.
how much land rover pay u to do this video????
DISCOVERY EVERY TIME..!!
Wherever you need to go, Go there by Land Rover!....and tow it with a Toyota!
I haven't heard British to say a bad word for British car :)
However it is more important what is the purpose you are buying the car for... If you take it to drive the children to school - OK then take the Disco... BUT if you going to use it to cross a desert no doubt Land Cruiser is the one - it is just much more reliable and durable car...
Libby Schulz There are statistics, owner satisfaction surveys and other data enough to make judgement without own both cars and drive them at same time and same way.
Libby Schulz Well... I don't have personal experience, but some said: "Land Rover turn owners into mechanics since 1948" :)
However from what I read, past last decade LR vastly improve reliability, but it is still way behind from the best in class. I personally believe it is all about maintenance - put some TLC to your car and you going to have good reliable car.
... another however - if I put my money on car I will never take VW or LR - but this is my vision, there are millions of people who drive both brands.
Regarding the brands reliability - well Mercedes put hundreds of million on development your dad to drive safety and reliable car enjoying power and comfort. In other hand Kia made cheep mass production cars but to lower the price doesn't spent so much on testing and of course there are differences.
If we compare Toyota LC to LR Discovery - Toyota use cheaper materials and spend more for technical and reliability development. Land rover on the other side turn to luxury brand, and spent more money for leather upholstery then stronger axles knowing that 80% of the time their car will be cruising on highway and 18% will do light off-road.
Of course everything is relative - there was times when Mercedes try to save money and built awful cars, and now are times when Kia give 7 years guarantee.
It is the customers decision - simple (a bit ugly) but reliable Toyota, or good looking luxury SUV which is not so reliable. There are cars for each taste and purposes.
+Libby Schulz Well, LR sill has its weak points, it is good to read in LR forum which are the common problems for your model to be prepared what to check and what to carry for.
For overland trip I still prefer Japanese, but for a outdoor activities near by civilization Landy is good enough.
And finally if you like this car enjoy it and don't think if it will broke down or not. Look on the positive side - if it broke down on the middle of nowhere you will always remember that trip :)
Ask the same question in 10 year time
Land Rover will be in the garage
I love that generation of LR Discovery, possibly one of the greatest 4x4s ever - can go almost anywhere offroad yet it's supreme onroad too. It absolutely looks the part too!
But, buy a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado and you know it'll do 200K-500K miles....... If you're lucky enough to live in Australia, you can still buy the 70 Series Toyota Land Cruiser - which will do 500K miles easily.
Most Discos, after 100K, start to get very expensive to run, and will probably be spending more time in the garage than being used for its intended purpose. If you look at most footage, these days, of people overlanding in Australia or Africa, or what the UN or other NGOs use in remote locations - it's generally a Toyota, and for good reason.....
I have worked in Africa, in the outback of Tanzania, Liberia and Madagascar and outside of the military police in Tanzania who did have the little jeep like Landrovers(and they were gifts from Great Britain) one never sees any Land Rovers at all. I met one fellow who was driving an older Land Rover in Tanzania but even that one had a Land Cruiser engine and running gear. This former East German had bought the Land Rover which was not running and a LandCruiser which had tumbled down a hill and installed the Land Cruiser diesel and running gears into the Land Rover. Even the Tanzanian military looked with envy at our Toyota Hi-lux 4wd's and tried to arrange a swap with our English mechanic, a Land Rover jeep for a Toyota Hi-lux 4wd for their mounted machine gun carrier. No deal. In Liberia, once you leave Monrovia or Buchanan and head north towards the Guinea Ivory Coast border up by Yekepa the roads had become little more than dirt roads and although the Chinese were busy paving most roads many were yet untouched and scarred by the war. You may see a few LandRovers in Monrovia or Buchanan but on the roads going north were mostly Land Cruisers with broken down Izuzu Troopers on the side of the road.
Land Cruisers rule because of their reliability especially the Safaris which never break down and just keep on running. They may be rough but they are tough!!!
2:43, "Gone down the modern route with a...multi cylinder engine"... oh really now?
What a joke!
MY LR3 (discovery across the pond) just crossed 250,000 with the original engine transmission and drive trian with no major repairs to any of them....... that's something that only a Toyota would typically achieve but here in Utah I've come across several LR3's with 250,000-300,000 and still going strong...... this is a whole new kind of Land rover and after the dismal reliability of my previous land rovers (range rover classic, discovery I) I am sure glad of it.
Land rovers are good but the main one that gives land rover a bad name when it comes to reliability is Range rover.
The big difference between the UK and US is the sort of roads and driving. If a car only drives long distances o big, smooth roads it will go on for ever. However in the UK everything is very close together with very poor quality roads and it chews cars to pieces. That coupled with a wet climate and lots of salt spreading in winter means cars simply don't last as long. For example a friend of mine has a Ram 1500 here in the UK and its done 70,000 miles and stuff is starting to go wrong on it. Just the way it is however
Is yours SE or HSE? Also, are you talking miles or kms?
Very true, my buddy is a car broker for dealers.. he suggests buy a land rover, no buy on range rover due to all the electronics.
This is off-road test..? )))
Bottom line, they are both very, very nice vehicles, but plan on spending a lot more on repairs for the Land Rover over time. It's that simple.
or...maybe the driver in the Land Rover is just having more fun ;)
LC 70 series might be a good comparison
Takuma Hirosue not available in the UK.
***** ah, ok...
joseph b hmm bbbbbbb e
The Discovery 4 was the best looking offroader of all times, no doubt about it. Sorry, LR fooked up the new model (5).
But I would go with the Land Cruiser, because it's a body on frame design and will also not break down as often as the Disco.
The New Discovery is a beast!
thats not the land cruiser thats land cruiser prado
ha ha The Land is better than the Toy !!! this is joke ins't it ?
it depends what you want one is a luxury car that is good off road the other is a good off roader and that's about it, live axle is not exactly a delight on the highway. so as an all rounder the Land Rover wins if all you want is and off roader possibly the Toyota but then if all you want is an off roader there are plenty of basic rural machines the will beat both
yes it is better than the "Toy" - ota. You said it!
@bmwfan4lyfe Land rover(scrap-metal) vs Toyota.
Hmm. For the commenters who are highlighting the Land Rover's questionable reliability, I suspect if you ask owners of later model LandCruisers about reliability, when their DPF filter has just failed AGAIN, you might get a different response.
That's a Toyota Land Cruiser PRADO, is not the same than real Toyota Land Cruiser.
In the UK we don't have the full range of Toyota 4x4's that other countries have. We have the Prado which Toyota just call "Land Cruiser" here, the Rav4 and the Hilux. We used to have the big 200 one, but it went out of production.
Yeah I was wondering why the "Prado" wasn't mentioned either! I thought they would use Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 4.0L petrol V6 instead
Mua'ava Malama we dont have that one either.
I have a 2010 Landcruiser and it is a landcruiser no it’s not a lc200 model but it is still a landcruiser prado is a model name used in other countries but mine is a LC14 Landcruiser and labelled as such .... is it as capable as the larger engined 200 models ? No idea . It’s still amazing and it is a landcruiser 👍🏽
All the Land Rovers sophistication and technology counts for nothing when your stranded because its broken down which it will, often.
Yota Runners and Land Cruisers are the tops dogs for overall value. RELIABILITY!!!
Pah. Reliability- totally overrated. Real men drive land rover, not girly men in Toyota
fredbrackely ever been on one? There is almost nothing "girly" about land cruiser
I'm only joking. Actually, I do own both -2008 LC200 series and a 2010 LR4, and funnily enough both have been 100% reliable with 122k miles on the LC and 86K miles on the LR4.
@Yue Lu
How much Toyota pay you to post comment. You're jealous because you can't afford the greatest off reading machine in the planet...
Ah the trouble free Toyota myth keeps spreading through the media. I had a Toyota and don't get me wrong i loved it but it is no way trouble free especially the Yaris.
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Well get a Land Rover & you'll really know the meaning of it being "Off Road"....Either on the side of the road waiting for a tow or at a garage getting some part repaired.
penvon That is a myth with modern land rovers, but I admit buying a 2005 range rover, just don't do it, but they don't sell plagued cars now.
I did 170,000+ with only a wheel bearing and mid section of the exhaust needed doing. Never had any other car do that well. I'll never touch German again which have by far been the worst and most costly problematic cars i've had.
My parents had a Toyota with 200,000+ and the only problem they had was a brake caliper/ABS sensor issue at around 180,000. Nothing else out of the ordinary has gone wrong.
My uncles 3 month old Golf Gen 7 packed up twice on the week i visited with him, both on the M11 motorway
My friends _8 month old_ Skoda had to have the fuel injection system replaced after stranding her 3 times
My Aunts Bentley GT cost her over $20,000 in repairs on the first year so she swapped it for a Rangey..... out of the frying pan into another one, as my cousin tells me its had several diff issues and is constantly plagued by electrical issues.
You know what they say "best car to get you into the desert Land Rover but the best car to get you out Land Cruiser" Thanks for posting.
If you call that off road thats pathetic, my kia cee'd would make it over half of that stuff.
they are cars not tanks!
Let's see your video of it then ??
Oh let me guess your just nobody with no experience typing shit !
When is he going to go offroad with them? I use public roads rougher than that!
Did you guys hear the moderator saying “The Land Cruiser have a lot more grip on the road than the Discovery”! Then how is Land Cruiser the "second best" with that capability over the Discovery?
Just spend a little more money on better tires is the easiest performance upgrade to any vehicle.
People literally think land rovers are the most unreliable things that break down constantly, if you ask me people just need an excuse because they know they just can’t afford a better car. I’m almost to 200k miles on my LR3 haven’t had a breakdown or any major repairs.
nice review.. n ya discovery is a bit more value for money especially when used in daily condition.
No contest, landcruiser nails it. How many of those fancy buttons will still work on the landrover after a few months?
must we not forget ppl who buy machines like this have no money worries and will only keep them for a short time so it does not matter what fancy buttons will not be working the first owner will never see problems with them.
David Whittaker they may be ok for soccer mums at the shopping mall but forget going off road ;-)
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so im assuming you didnt watch the video...
hornbytrainsets oh I watched the video ,the grand national took place recently in the uk,if you saw the pics from the car park its mostly filled with range rovers,rich ppl drive them,horse breeders drive them,they don't care if nothing works they buy them for what they are,they what to be seen in them they want to buy and support England,they are driven by the royal family, you don't think the queen would be seen in a common mans Toyota god no,no way.everybody drives Toyotas cos they want reliability cos they prob cant afford break down bills,where as those buying range rovers don't have money worries they are money no object ppl,Bernie ecclestone the owner of f1 sends his daughters and there minders around in range rovers.
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yes, very true but im saying, you cant say "forget going off-road" i mean just watch the video! it did just that and its something that land rover is known for. its like saying a lamborghini isn't fast
i just hate andrew frankel reviews.... he just doesn't look pretty much convincing. plus, he has a way of testing very boring...
but maybe thats just me
I luv the Land Rover, very comfortable.
As an owner of a Disco III I must say that when I bought the car in 2007, I also went to Toyota and Mitsubishi. The guy is right, ON THE ROAD there is no comparison. Landy is in a whole different league - and I'm talking about the LRD3, not the car in test, which is improved version. When it comes to off-road the cars I believe are very close, so close that one can't see the difference. Anyway, after 7 years the car runs as new, no problems at all. Though I think a Toyota would last more, but for that to happen another 7 years must pass..
This is nonsense Toyota is much better
I like both Toyota and Land Rover and id personally own both if I could. At the moment I own a 29yr old Land Rover and the only thing thats broke on it was 5th gear. Best part of a old land rover like mine is that all the body parts can be removed and replaced easily, that includes the roof as well, cant do that in a cruiser.
Wtf this is a prado !
This reportage is not objective. At the moment i have a landrover. Never again a land rover anymore. Bad quality, repairs repairs etc. Toyota land cruiser is many times better i heard.
For those who say Land Rovers are more expensive have no idea what they are talking about. A land cruiser in the U.S is 84k and LR4 is around 70k with all the bells and whistles and starts at 50k.
Land Rover if you love workshop and want to learn to be a mechanic
A friend of mine has a Disvovery 2 facelift and have a lot of problems with that car.. i drive a Toyota Landcruiser And no problems and the BMW E36 makes no problems too with 400Tkm and 24 years old... i hope uk can make cars in the Future.. at this time and the last years they made ceap crank things but not with the name car.. please uk learn to make cars and not crank stuff
The Disco wins if you want to wear Barbour & Hunter wellies, and the Landcruiser wins if you want a tough work horse
Frame and IRS. Thats all we need to know.
The Land Cruiser is the best out of the two.
When will Land Rover fit proper tires instead of liquorice straps. The Toyota had half decent tires. Comparisons should be on similar tires
if you own a rover, buy tools or buy 2 more cars
The Toyota land cruiser is way more reliable, there is no point in buying an off roader that might get you back when the land cruiser will. If you don’t mind your car spending more time with your mechanic than you then buy the land rover.
So, they brought an land cruiser -fucking- PRADO with almost no equipment and a much more expensive LR discovery with special off road features to the rough snow test and concluded the LR is the better off roader?
Well, that's a perfect way to boast the superiority of British engineering. Nicely done, British people.
averagejoe Did you even watch the review? Take your anti-British mentality elsewhere, troll.
averagejoe All that stuff on the Rover is standard, if that helps.
your welcome. anytime :-)
I know this is 3 years old but do people even listen to what they said
yugo can cross this!
Any Brit video will always be bias...Doesn't make any sense watching these reviews.
I don't think that's very fair. this was a very objective review
Having owned both LR Disco and a Toyota LC, I'd have to say Landcruiser hands down. Reliability is the key issue here. My last Disco I sold it with 125K miles and she was crapping out (remember those horrible valves?). My LC has 230K and I've replaced very few wearable items only. She's a beast! I'd like to see a LR go over 200K w/o some serious engine work! You wont!
You will easily. You haven't got a clue if seems.
@@X50505 Seems like you haven’t got a clue between the word ‘if’ and ‘it’, you seem to be a person who hasn’t owned both cars, I’m presuming you’ve got a brand new Range Rover that’s never left the road! 🤣
@@GeoffreyCapes You know you're desperate when you're having to rely on typos as an argument.
I've got 2 Land Rovers, a V8 D1 on 250k miles and a SDV6 D4 on 80k miles. Both bomb proof, but then again, I actually service them properly. I don't take them to the local peasant down the road who services your ridiculously over-priced, over-hyped peasant Toyota that had to copy the Land Rover name just to be taken seriously.
@@X50505 Of course you have, if you read on the other disrespectful comment you made to someone else you’d realise we’ve all had many Land Rovers, got a brilliant image of you driving around with a monocle and a monopoly top hat on, such a nobleman.
80,000km (49,000m) on the D4. Do you actually drive it anywhere? It’s 13 years old, obviously you realise that your local Land Rover dealership will turn their nose up at you for having such an old vehicle, most likely trying to get you to trade it in for a new one. How many oil leaks, electrical faults, parking brake ok?
Land Rover - It’s not leaking oil, it’s marking its territory.
@@GeoffreyCapes I seriously doubt many of you have much experience with Land Rovers. Take Op's comment for example, claimed he'd like to see one get over 200k miles without serious engine work, that's around 320,000kms. That's an absolute joke of a comment considering most D1s and D2s these days are hovering around that. There's a TD5 D2 (the overall less reliable model) that has done over 1 million kms without any major engine work, just regular servicing. I said the fool doesn't have a clue and I stand by that.
My D4 is on 130,000 kms. Also you do realise they made the Discovery 4 up until 2016, so I don't know why you've assumed they have to be 13 years old. Nor would I get a car serviced at a dealership anyway. Plenty of more affordable Land Rover specialists around who have probably been in the game a lot longer than the average dealership mechanic.
No significant oil leaks that I'm aware of. Had a minor diesel leak a while back, but easily sorted. No electrical faults, parking brake works flawlessly. It gets a good workout too. City driving on the weekdays and rescuing bogged Land Cruisers on the weekends.
always a land rover