Land Rover Discovery: Battle of Generations | Discovery 2, Discovery 3 & Discovery 4
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- This is a long-awaited comparative test of the Land Rover Discovery of different generations. Cars will have to drive the Rock Gate trail, which consists of a series of obstacles: a steep climb with diagonal suspensions, the Rock Gate itself, a S-shaped turn with large rocks and a long sandy hill.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
The first obstacle: Dirt climb
00:47 2004 Land Rover Discovery 2 / Low Range
01:38 2005 Land Rover Discovery 3 / Low Range + Rock Crawl Mode
02:26 2014 Land Rover Discovery 4 / Low Range + Rock Crawl Mode
03:36 Next video announcement
The second obstacle: Rocky Gate
03:57 Land Rover Discovery 2 / Low Range + 1st Gear
04:33 Land Rover Discovery 3 / Low Range + Rock Crawl Mode
05:18 Land Rover Discovery 4 / Low Range + Rock Crawl Mode
05:49 2020 Land Rover Defender / Low Range + Rock Crawl Mode
The third obstacle: S-shape Uphill Rocky Turn
06:49 Discovery 2 / Low Range + 1st Gear
07:53 Discovery 3 / Low Range + Rock Crawl Mode
10:16 Discovery 4 / Low Range + Rock Crawl Mode
11:02 Differently sized wheels thoughts
The fourth obstacle: Long Sandy Climb
11:57 Discovery 2 / 3rd Gear
13:11 Discovery 4 / Drive
14:11 Discovery 3 / Sand Mode
16:31 Conclusions
17:39 Awarding of the places
Please let me know in the comment section below: What Discovery was a surprise for you and from which one you've expected more?
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The old discovery 2 is seriously underrated as a 4x4. I’ve got a 2001 which we’ve owned from new and it just does everything I ask of it. Family adventures up inside the artic circle in Norway 🇳🇴 to southern Spain 🇪🇸 in the soaring heat…. It tows a trailer every now and then and ventures off road on camping trips in wild wales 🏴 and Scotland 🏴.
It’s collected both my children from hospital when they were born and my eldest passed his driving test in it. The car holds so many memories we will never let it go.
@@MrLordingitoriginally on the rr classic Chassis was the discovery 1
I think the LR3's short comings were due to tyres. The disco 2 was on maxis AT, the disco 4 on BF Goodrich AT, but the disco 3 was on Yokahoma AVS ST tyres, which perhaps are more geared towards road driving whereas the 2 and 4 were on more off road tyres. I think that's the reason the 3 didn't perform as well as it should have
I agree 💯%+! The tires on the LR3 also looked badly worn! They also seemed to be closer to stock size/height with the lowest side wall. I believe that LR4 may have also had a rear locker.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 the rear lock (electric controlled) came standard on my LR 4 in the UK so it probably does you're correct
@@darrenrider5676 my D4 don't have a rear locker, they were pretty rare as far as I'm aware
Agreed Darren, also, I don't know why the LR3 didn't drop tyre pressures for the hill climb? Strange. I would have thought for a true comparison on all 3 vehicles, they all would have the same tyres and pressures.
@@darrenrider5676 you are incorrect only on HD package vehciles
That disco 2 at around 20 plus years old is just amazing, especially when compared to previous videos of other newer vehicles of different brands.
Also it's a 2000 3 so the transfer case doesn't even have the CDL option for them to have added the lever that means it's only all-wheel-drive and traction control
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 true, but you can have it enabled. It does have a cdl on the transfer case, just not connected. Not sure if it was enabled on the one in the video, either way, very impressive for a 23 yr old vehicle and would've matched the disco 4 on the hill climb if the driver had deflated tyre pressure to about 1 bar.
solid axles and good traction control makes it great !
@@rjakoet actually the 2003 at least here in America is the only one that came with a transfer case that does not have the selector built-in to the top of it so you can't even buy a CDL lever and install it. That's what made the people so upset in 2003 to make Land Rover release the 2004 that had one. My friend had a 2003 and the top of the transfer box is completely smooth right there it sucks. So there's a chance that might have only been traction control LOL
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 I didn't know that. I have a 2000 td5 and had the CDL link installed. I thought they all had the same transfer case with the unconnected difflock nut on top of the case.
Old rovers are seriously underrated as off roaders, i got an 04 discovery and in 4low with the diff locked it is a mountain goat and will literally climb anything. I love it, its the perfect mix of old and new school and the tech rarely fails
Well said my friend !!
Even crazier that this video is using a 2003 with no center diff lock too!
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Those old Disco 2s are no joke. They're totally underrated and you can still get them pretty cheap because everyone is afraid of them.
Got mine for 2k legit a few weeks ago and I love it I’m in the military I take it on field ops and we have a shit of fun driving it. The 3 amigos are on and the check engine light but it’s still amazing and not bad on gas. By the way anyone know how to fix that.
The only time my beloved 4.6 was referred to as a mighty V8...I'm gonna sleep well tonight. Great videos
When I first got into Land Rover and learned about the association with Ford I was expecting the 4.6 to be a Ford OHV 4.6 I would have been pretty cool
Hey I wish mine was a 4.6!
I have the HC Thor 4.0.... I do love the little work horse though
Tires play a big role in how they preform, At 18:08 LR3/D3 and 18:34 LR4 or D4 if you compare the thread pattern between the two, the LR4 has more aggressive threads, asymmetrical block patterns larger and deeper grooves in the tires compared to the LR3 that has less aggressive blocks with symmetrical patterns, narrow and shallower groves.
Deep aggressive asymmetrical grooves in tires on LR4/D4 helps it gain better traction on loose sand and gravely by digging into surface where there's grip, and rocky surfaces the sharp aggressive blocks on the tire help claw/grip on to those rocks thus provides strong traction.
The LR3/D3 symmetrical shallow less aggressive tires cant provide traction in those situations because of its thread pattern and design, and also wider 285 tires (tho not by much 10mm) did not help either as it cant allow the tire to dig down into surface that has traction, it just floats and spins the tire. If Lr3 had similar tires as D1 and LR4/D4 or more aggressive A/T tires it would have been just as good as its predecessor and successor.
Conclusion, do your research and choose the right tires for your adventure's environment and know its limitations, just because its stamped or says "A/T or all terrain" on the tires doesn't mean they're created equal.
See there's lots of video showing that more aggressive does not help him stand at all. I think in this case both of the newer models did not are their tires down enough but the reason why the D4 was better is because it had way more horsepower and was able to gain more speed prior and maintain more momentum throughout. If the D3 had more aggressive tread it would have still slow down the same and kept digging the same. I'm not saying more aggressive is necessarily worse but if you don't have the horsepower, not torque, to assist with those more aggressive tires that won't really matter. There's plenty of videos of completely All Season Highway tread going through sand perfect when you drop air to 20 PSI now you are absolutely correct as far as the rest of the video climbing those rocks yes the D3 did need more aggressive tread butt on the sand that wasn't the issue it was lack of power and momentum. 190 horsepower compared to the other two having well over 200 horsepower and less air in the tires. I guarantee if you put the D3 at 20 psi and the D4 at 36 PSI they would do the same because the D4 has more power to gain momentum ahead of time
I'm not trying to knock your whole tire educational post but I've driven with low horsepower diesel vehicles compared to higher horsepower vehicles and the ability to gain momentum is so much greater. I know both of these models were diesel but look at the horsepower ratings. It's clear the way the D4 was going probably three-quarters faster before they'll even started. But yeah you're correct it's just not the reason it failed the Sandhill
Used to think this, but since seeing what the new Defender can do on regular road tyres, I've come to see the light: Modern traction control is king.
I have 10 ply mud tires on a 2004 Discovery 2. Changed the highway ride but it's an off-road beast. And let's be honest. Are you beating up a 100k+ New Land Rover or having more fun in the far less expensive Discovery with front and back solid axles? I know my answer.
I had 2k V8 manual D2... freaking work horse... absolutely love it!!!! ... How about a RRC, P38, L322 & L405 battle?
As a Disco 4 owner, I'm happy to see this generally forgotten gem (in North America anyway) getting some love.
Land Rover's traction control is still unmatched. On the moderate trails in my area, Jeeps and Toyota platforms need to engage front and rear lockers to match the performance of the new Defender.
Absolutely! I live in Southern Arizona and we have some extremely tough crawler trails and I admit like a brand-new Rubicon can make things look much easier but I have a D2 just like this one and it will hang in most situations and is 22 years old. If I compared it to a Jeep or Toyota from the year 2000 it is absolutely way better. Only thing I like about a brand-new Jeeps compared to a brand new Defender is the articulation, how wide they are and how low center of gravity. The defender is still good but dimensionally they could have done better on the new one. A little top-heavy. If you park when next to a disco 5 the Disco 5 is actually lower and the body is wider which helps look at the Humvee
Indeed a pinnacle of British Engineering. The fact that even a 2nd gen discovery from the 90s can outperform a 200 series land cruiser without losing traction shows how advanced Land Rover is. What's missing is a body on frame 4x4 with solid axles like the discovery 2.
Land Rover is an INDIAN BRAND! (c) (let's see how many likes this indignant comment will get😉😁)
@@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461 nope!
@@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461 Indian owned but British design and manufacturing.
@@landrover1155 another cool thing to consider is that that was a 2003 disco that means it didn't have CDL even on the transfer case so the one in the video must have been all wheel drive with TC only
I agree with you! That's why you have to buy a Grenadier or fix up an old disco LOL I'm pretty impressed that this was a 2003 Discovery because that year did not have CDL not even on the transfer case to install the linkage so that means it was doing all that with all-wheel drive and traction control while the others definitely had CDL possibly a rear Locker
I own a disco 4 and is great ! The people really don’t know how capable is this 4x4.
Totally agree in how capable they are , I’ve got a D3 and very impressed with the traction control system , did u ever see the Australian guy who done a video here on U tube where he took a standard D4 on baboons pass, really good video , plus the first time I drove my D3 I couldn’t get over how nice they are to drive on the motorway , exceptionally comfortable
@@garystuart226 yes I do ! And is impressive ! I use mine to travel and do overland. Almost already travel Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay on it and is perfect to this. Cruse rivers, drive on snow and so much more.. I really love this car.
@@garystuart226 I saw that video that guy is really cool I forget his name. For the longest time he kept trying to make the Jeep Rubicon seem not as great as it is and he finally reviewed a black one on the sand dunes in the Middle East and broke down at the end of the video and said it's literally the best off-road vehicle you ever driven and the most capable from the factory. Factory sway bar disconnecting the front and back, solid axles, front and rear lockers, traction control like our Rovers, wider stance, lower center of gravity and he said I don't know why Landover can't make something like this it's so simple and literally has everything you need and can fit 35 inch tires stock. I just don't want to drive a Jeep Rubicon cuz you see them everywhere LOL I would love if I could take one and fit a Rover body on top
Agree! I’ve been amazed at the places my D4 has taken me!
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 ANDREW WHITE.!
Two things stopped the Disco 3, the driver and the tyre pressures. He was driving a bit slowly and the tyre pressures for sand are best around 15 to 18psi. Those pressures would to some extent counterbalance his slower approach. The tread had little to do with it. In fact the more highway tread lets the tyres “float” more whereas the all terrain chunky treaded tyres would dig in more and are not as effective on sand. You can run a Disco at 10 psi and not roll a tyre off the rim due to the design of the bead lock on the rims.
I guess it was not only a video of the vehicles but also a video of the owners LOL when they mentioned he is in sand mode but at 36 lb I thought wow this driver just knows how to read levers
IMHO i think the D3 driver is not experienced My d3 always out performs a D4
@@chaquisa1 yes I agree with you on the rocky Parts he look very inexperienced plus his choosing to not are down just shows you. But I think on the Sandy Hill Climb even when he did are down I think that that D3 having way way less horsepower and the D4 and even the D2 which allowed them to get momentum also. They should have chose a TD 5 or maybe just not such a weak D3 engine level
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 Yep the D3 V8 would have made a big difference regards HP
More like 0.5 to 0.8 bar needed.
I love how you can se the air suspension work on 14:20, it's interesting how it just keeps the body stable while pushing those tires into the sand. The tire pressure and type of tire made all the difference though. The D4 held a lot of momentum going up the sand hill, the D3 not so much.
The waiting paid off, great video as always!
I thought I was the only one who waited for he's promise
Yeah I was going crazy waiting for this video haha I even saw the Russian language version that came out before this one and I was watching it
10:50 The Disco 4 was able to pass the test smoothly probably because it didn't do the mandatory momentum stop.
Exactly what I was gonna say. Also the Disco 3 had more road type tyres. Much less grip.
I also have a 2001 D2 that I upgraded to 4.6 liter and enabled the CDL by installing a D1 shift lever. I'm never giving it up.
Finally the long awaited comparison. I thoroughly enjoyed this one, that Disco II was phenomenal
me, living nowhere near offroad areas: Cool, this was helpful!
Put the cars on similar tires. You have to compare apples and apples.
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Really enjoyed your video Diyas, great to see you do direct comparisons for each generation, and I like the way you stop on the diagonal to eliminate momentum.
You left out the best Disco of the line. An old and reliable Discovery one equipped with an aftermarket rear diff locker.
But it didn't come with a rear Locker. All of these were Factory except for maybe the tires or whatever. You take the ABS fuse out of the D2 and then you have a D1
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 Agree in part. Some years of the D2 didn't came with the lever for the Central diff locks, and even without the3 fuse, it still has rear air bags. And I think that even without the rear diff installed the D1 you overcame the obstacles
Cool battle, but you handicapped the D3 with those tyres, next time make sure everyone have the same tyres to be fair.
I’ve a 2013 D4 on scorpions and it’s unstoppable. It’s my 4th disco (had 2 x D3s and 2 x D4s) absolutely love them. Great video
Yeah that D3 had way too much air in the tires regardless of the tread type. 36 PSI is ridiculous and then it said the driver reduced it 4 PSI I'm like wow that's it. It was a bad driver. Plus that particular D3 had way less horsepower than both of the other disco's not allowing for catching speed and momentum. What he said about the D2 was right though the solid axles and Simplicity still having traction control with the ability to do lots of mods and build your dream rig with so much articulation.. something they didn't mention the 2003 Discovery 2 had the transfer case it doesn't even allow for an aftermarket CDL lever so that one was only all wheel drive not even CDL four-wheel drive and it did all that just old traction control.
I own currently a Disco 4 5.0l V8. Powerfull car but I owned a Disco 3, 2.7l diesel before as well and they did not do the car justice. That car is more than capable to run that dune to the dust. The problem was, the tyres should be 1.2 bar. I live in Namibia and in any sand tyre pressure goes from 0.8 to 1.2 bar. The reason for the disco 2 victory was because of its tyre pressure at 1.4 bar and in itself too hard. Tyres and tyre pressure plays a big big role at any 4x4 obstacle.
I own a 2015 Disco 4 HSE Luxury that's never been off-road. Just saying.
@@dipladonic have some fun, you have an unstoppable beast
Great comparison 👍🏼 thanks a lot!
Tyres tyres tyres. They make a massive difference
I have a wonderful Discovery 4, SDV6, and its off-road behavior is incredible. In the sand it is one of the best, it is difficult for another 4x4 to be more efficient. Really Discovery 4, one of the best SUV that exists today!
It would have been nice to swap the wheels form the 4 to the 3 and see the real difference.
You have two cars on AT tyrtes and one on basically road tyres so the 3 was always going to be at a disadvantage offroad.
Yeah on the second obstacle that would have helped the D3 a lot but honestly really he just had way too much pressure in the tires 36psi on sand and only dropped 4psi on 2nd try. Bad driver. . Also the D4 has much more horsepower to gain lots of speed and momentum before to the sand hill climb. Even the D2 had more horsepower than that D3. Crazy part also is that the two didn't come with CDL and you can even add it to the 2003 to transfer case didn't even have that part on it from the factory it's the only one you can't add so it was just all-wheel drive not 4wd
Recently bought the D4 SDV6 HSE 8sp & I absolutely love it. Had a couple D2, both TD5s, again superb vehicles. Awesome video 👏
The poor d3 had to do the challenge on street tires
Everyone is praising the D4 but it clearly didn’t stop at 10:36 and just used momentum to get over the rock the D3 struggled on
I am really happy that you still have activity
Best car I ever bought was my D2..an extremely capable machine.
I love my D2 many hours underneath the car for many hours of fun
The D2 might have only been all wheel drive because it's a 2003. Every year except for 2003 has CDL on the transfer case and you could just add the lever to the interior. At least the ones sold in America. So that means this one did it like a Subaru but with low range haha that's pretty impressive
Proud 2014 LR4 v8 owner here, car is not only offroad monster but its a really fast car on street too.. i believe this is the best discovery model year ever made
If this should be a test, you should at least use the same wheels and tires. The D3 ar on stock wheels and «mall crawler» tires. The D4 is on BFG KO2 and larger diameter. Thats the whole different.
after owning nissan patrols, mutiple highly modified landcruiser 70 series and a landcruiser 200 and a few other 4x4s i have got to say the couple of landrovers (disco 3 and disco 4) my self and the family had were the greatest of all time they were so good and unstoppable with minimal modifications. im currentlty selling my isuzu to go back to another land rover im getting a discovery 2 this time. and out of all the cars i had the land rover was the one with the least amount of issues believe it or not, it even surprised me. to me and this is un biased ( as i have owned countless 4x4 models and brands) the landrovers are the greatest 4x4s of all time
Yeah I think if they are well maintained they are very good designs. Especially the D2 I feel like it's a very Stout set up underneath
Cannot agree more a well-maintained D4 is unstoppable. Minimal issues with my one at 200k kms
Диас, добрый день. Почему бы в начале видео не приветствовать всех со словами, что съёмки идут в Казахстане, в Алматы.
Небольшой вклад в популяризацию как говорится.
Why no more videos?? It’s been 6 months
kanalı unutmuş 😂😂
Isn’t this in Russian
I mean his from Russia right?
@@user-oy8gs8ot1v that stinks hopefully he is ok
Great video! Big thank you👏
Aamzing perf from Discovery 2 & Discovery 4 !
It would have been good to see them all with the same tyres even if the diameters were different, at least the same tread patern and rubber compound. Still a good demonstration of how good the Discovery is, which ever you choose.
The LR3 had terrible tires, that tread design has zero off-road prowess.
@@landrover1155 yeah sometimes people get really hung up on the independent suspension having just a slightly higher ground clearance in the very center of the vehicle but not realizing that they lose the articulation especially even more so when these kind have the right setting that pushes the air Springs maximum height too stiff. Almost makes me wonder if the streets setting of the air suspension would be better because at least it has some positive and negative travel. It's like Land Rover went from knowing what they're doing to just trying to think of something unique and strange to do with every new design. Like achieving the same things in the most complicated way possible as opposed to like a brand new Jeep Rubicon front and rear lockers, front and rear sway bar disconnects, similar type of traction control those guys never talk about and solid axles. Seems like Land Rover would make it least one vehicle that way having the four-by-four Heritage they do
Finally!!!! Been waiting for y’all to drop a video. Been so long🥹
Tyre pressures for that sandy climb should be a maximum of 20 PSI. 36 is way too high.
Great video. Love the details
i love your videos Dias , just the best and well detailed.
This is probably much tuffer terrain then what it looks like on camera.
Especially from the driver set.
Thanks for thls video, i really like your car reviews.
Its amazing that you could get all these out there together. I thought flr sure one would still be in the shop
So glad you posted a new video. All your videos are very enjoyable.
Very interesting video, thanks for posting
Really interesting, but I would really liked to see a Discovery 1 on this test without traction control but with central diff locker
Very nice film. Thank you
great video but I'm even more excited for the next one
D3 with smaller and slicker tires cannot be compared with the others.
I really enjoy these videos.
Great video! LR3 was done dirty. As mentioned above, the tires were the wrong type. Should have been the V8 model. Since it was designed around that powertrain. Should have had the rear locker, if it did ST tires wouldnt have slowed it down so much. Driver should have gunned it up that sandy hill. Out of personal experience, sand mode in the LR3 isn't that great.
Not only the wrong type for the rockier climbs but the wrong PSI for the sand. He failed the first time at 36 lb and then reduced it by 4 lb still too high haha was a bad driver. Now even with the right PSI the D2 and the D4 in the test had more horsepower than the D3 and could gain more speed and momentum at the bottom of the Sand Hill
The disco2 does not look stock/standard. What are the modifications and was it using the centre locking diff at any point?
I am thinking it is a 2003 by the lack of the large tube rails on the roof. i have 2003 and 2004 and only the 2004 came with the center dif lock and the unique large tube roof rails that makes it easy to spot the 2004
Awesome video!!! Keep it coming!!
We miss vides of this channel...why you stopped making videos guys ????? 😕😕
What a lovely beautiful video.
I saw a Mazda MX5 go up a hill in the dead of winter time when all-wheel drive SUVs couldn't.
Tires are literally everything, yet they are always overlooked in comparisons.
This is the best channel ever, I wish you would do also shorter videos for car reviews.
Been waiting for this!!!!
Hey, you skipped a generation! I love my Disco 1!
Great breakdown, thanks for sharing!
Probably because the D1 could not even do the first thing when they stopped at the cross axle section with wheel spin and all of them needed traction control to make it. You can take the ABS fuse out of the D2 and there is your D1
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 It would be fun to try!
These cars are built to go anywhere indeed, but tires do make quite a difference and the D3 proves it.
That's what is so frustrating about all the new models especially the defender. 18in Wheels being the smallest and low profile tires. Even if you get aggressive low profile tires you cannot tear them down and make the footprint longer. It's just weird that a four-by-four only company with that Heritage doesn't make their vehicles that way how Jeep does
Thanks for the objective testing. It's interesting to analyze the same obstacles by different cars. Keep them coming. I hope you do a Porsche Cayenne next. I have the 3.0TDI and this thing rips off road.
I would love to see that video! A mate had a Cayenne and it was always getting stuck compared to a Range Rover sport. It would never cope with that terrain. Very nice onroad but he had to get rid of his. Glass roof kept leaking. They couldn't fix it. Gave him a brand new replacement. Same problem. Not good in the UK!
Very good video!!! Thanks!!!!
I worked on the prototype bodyshell of the discovery at Lode Lane.
One of the best off roader Britain has ever produced.🇬🇧👍
I waited for ever for this video. I own a Discovery 2. I also have a Gen 4 Pajero which you also tested on these same trails in an earlier video. It’s great to see how the two compare. Unfortunately I can only keep one and will probably have to sell the Disco 😢
The reason for the discovery 3 coming third is down to the driver.
And the highway tread tires
I had a 94 Disco 1, 200 TdI, for over ten years. Sold it and bought a 2001 Disco 2, 4L V8, which I love. I would never buy a Disco 3 or newer. Live axles rule.
Amazing video my friend!
It's been long since you last posted, I really enjoy your content. If only these cars were a turd more reliable, the car industry would bow down. Something perhaps was wrong with the discovery 3, discovery 4 is something else. I v seen a D3 with a small 2.7 diesel engine mercilessly destroying a 2018 land cruiser with the mighty 5.7L and and a Nisani patrol 5.6L.
I refused to believe it but I v been a long time owner of land rovers, I know what they can do to other brands on dirt tracks!
Yeah you are right. That's where you have the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. The Rubicon still has solid front and rear axles, front and rear lockers, front and rear sway bar disconnects, and traction control like these all Factory with 35s Factory. I don't know why Land Rover got all weird and Jeep stayed good
Would love to watch your tests of the GWM Tank 300. There aren't many objective videos out there to rely on at the moment.
Love your channel , from Canada 🇨🇦
Recently just bought a new F150 tremor . Have fun and keep the shiny side up
Love how the D4 driver knew NOT to use the traction control system in the sand lol.
Disco 3 can easily go through any substacle or trail that Disco 4 can. I know because i had both. Somethings wrong with that vehicle.
Edit: I watched it again. That idiot in the D3 took it to the “sand” mode at the last period while D4 was on the “drive” mode. Thats a huge difference for speed and pace. Of course that car will sink, what were you thinking?? :)
Agreed, currently own a D3 and found turning the DSC off can also assist , u have very sharp eyes there as much confess I didn’t notice, lol
D3 has on light duty all-terrain tires that’s not made for use in this kind of terrain. While D4 has proper all terrain tire. If they had the same tires D2, D3 and D4 would have performed equally and effortlessly.
Plus 1 what you’ve both said , also wonder if the D4 maybe had a rear locker as see they were optional on both the D3 / D4
This is my complaint, sand mode a standard and then the D4 didn’t stop on the earlier hill turn thing. Shame as otherwise it was looking like a sensible test. They should use the same driver and settings.
@@davidedwards4125 Sand Mode allows more slip at wheel before traction control takes over, transmission to hold gears at higher RPM, and engine to be more responsive at touch of the throttle.
In Sand mode should give D3 an advantage but in the end its using proper made all terrain tires what makes D4 conquer that hill effortlessly and not using a on road orientated/light duty "all terrain" tires.
The Disco 3 seemed to be hindered by setup rather than capability.
GREAT VIDEO, THANKYOU. We need a comparison between the lr3 lr4 and the range rovers!!!!
When these old discos work they are actually pretty impressive. When they work...
At 11:38 the tires are more street seasonal while the others had a much more aggressive tire.
Regardless, Its seriously impressive that it made it with those tires!
❤ 🕺 Exited about the D5.
Great work getting this toghether. Too bad they did not have the same tires. Hard to rank them without similar shoes...
I would like to see Honda Hrv GH3 V-tec in some video. Thanks for your work it's very interesting!
Amazing video
a comparison that I have been waiting for a long time. The D2 did pretty well even without the CDL activated like the D3/D4
The D4 performs nearly like the new Defender.
Yeah that's what I was thinking about the D2 how impressive because a2003 doesn't even have the capability of installing aftermarket CDL on the transfer case. They should totally be praising that thing LOL I mean it's dumb for Land Rover to ever release something that can't have true four-wheel drive but it's still be good
@@ronaldrrootiii6040 I sincerely think of replacing the transfer case of my Disco with that of a defender with CDL for a few months now. I will put 33" tires while changing the ratio of the TB (the Ratio of the Defender is higher than that of the disco)
@@x5or yeah that's totally good or at the very least just a different year disco case. I mean it's basically not four-wheel drive I don't get why they did that. Seems like they could have at least put a Torsen differential if they weren't going to allow it to lock
Excited to see Jeep Compass tested on the next video!
The test between these cars shows the three most important things in off-road driving: Tyres, tyres and tyres. Swap the tyres around on the D3 & D4 and run that test again.
Would love to see discovery 5 in upcoming videos 🙏🏼
D2, brilliant for it's age, D4, another level.. Standard they are fantastic off road (with the right tyres of course)
Yeah if that's an American 2003 D2 that it doesn't have CDL even on the transfer case so he was just all-wheel drive doing all that
Discovery 2 🤩
Good Job
I have a '99 TD5 Disco 2 and I'm in love with it. However, despite the Traction Control system is very effective, it is also a pain in the ass when it fails, which is more often than one would like to.
Yeah once you work out the bugs on yours I'm assuming maybe you haven't had it really long. Then the traction control system stays pretty good. After I did the shuttle valve and rewire I had one ABS sensor go bad after that it only does it if your brakes are really dirty and you press them and they squeak or something. I just don't go down rabbit holes with all the people on Facebook following continuity and testing all this stupid stuff I just have a good scanner and I replace what it tells me. Also you can tell if it's the brakes or the Hub because they will make noise and the ABS sensor electronics are basically electrical vibrations and if the brakes or the Hub are making vibrations that hinder the electronic vibrations which are obvious because you can hear the Hub and feel it or hear the brakes then you know it's those. Otherwise when it's all said and done it's just the ABS sensors most the time. I just don't listen to other people online I just scan it and replace it and it's been good for a long time and when it's not it's easy to fix.
the tyres on the discovery 3 are old, the grip might be power, fit the new tyres as discovery 4 and leta see
I liked a lot the discovery 2!!
Great channel, In next videos should include Evs like Rivian.