Yeah, the elite class system requirements are quite absurd. As you mentioned, it is going to become an issue because I don't see everyone throwing out their PCs and buying a new one in 2025 like Microsoft seems to want. In all reality, most standard users these days could preform all of the tasks they need to preform with a computer just fine with a core 2 duo and 4gb RAM. Windows 10 will run perfectly fine on a core 2 duo and 4gb RAM, and Windows 11 really isn't all that different. The amount of perfectly good systems that don't support Windows 11 is absurd. I still use Pentium 4 machines on a daily basis, and my laptop still uses a single core Pentium M processor. While I wouldn't expect either of them to run Windows 11, I see no reason why a core 2 duo and newer should no be able to. The newest computer I even own is a Dell OptiPlex 9010, and I still have it runninx XP. At this point I am pretty much done with Microsoft, but I have been pretty much done with Microsoft since Windows 7. I also see quite a few people moving to Linux, but that is obviously not an option for everybody, and if Microsoft does not give in; I expect to see a lot of users sticking with their current machines and Windows 10 long after it's support ends.
Not to mention that there are quite a few systems that DO fit into the "elite class" requirements which are less powerful than systems that DO NOT. I could go out and buy a cheap HP desktop which runs off of a laptop charger or some crap like that, and it is going to be much slower than something like an OptiPlex 9010 with an i7, even though the older one is faster, more upgradable, and will continue to last much longer.
@@RainyNightsTech I mean they lied about Vista too, but in a different way. I too would have been pissed if I bought a “Vista Capable” PC in 2006 that would end up not being able to run Vista. Ok, it would install but what’s the point of Vista if you can’t run aero? To me Vista was about the sexiness.
I fixed one of these this week, guy had a RAM stick that didn't match well, fixed that. I hate that this system does not have secure boot or TPM at all, and also you really want a 4th gen intel as far as a video adapter for web browsing in windows 10 or 11 so it's fast enough to be viable....and they sell computers that are ELITE class that are slower than this to this day (the optiplex 390 and newer ones like the 3020/7020/9020 which is the bare ass minimum for a nice experience)
I can confirm it's fixed. Bad thing about business computers is their diagnostic tests often still pass when things are wrong or faulty...it's a blessing and a curse. Luckily it had status lights during the crash looked it up....ram. I love business computers. However when they have a bad motherboard the diagnostics pass too and it's hard to sus out.
That’s a mostly 13 year old pc that is still very useful to this day.
Yeah, the elite class system requirements are quite absurd. As you mentioned, it is going to become an issue because I don't see everyone throwing out their PCs and buying a new one in 2025 like Microsoft seems to want. In all reality, most standard users these days could preform all of the tasks they need to preform with a computer just fine with a core 2 duo and 4gb RAM. Windows 10 will run perfectly fine on a core 2 duo and 4gb RAM, and Windows 11 really isn't all that different. The amount of perfectly good systems that don't support Windows 11 is absurd. I still use Pentium 4 machines on a daily basis, and my laptop still uses a single core Pentium M processor. While I wouldn't expect either of them to run Windows 11, I see no reason why a core 2 duo and newer should no be able to. The newest computer I even own is a Dell OptiPlex 9010, and I still have it runninx XP.
At this point I am pretty much done with Microsoft, but I have been pretty much done with Microsoft since Windows 7. I also see quite a few people moving to Linux, but that is obviously not an option for everybody, and if Microsoft does not give in; I expect to see a lot of users sticking with their current machines and Windows 10 long after it's support ends.
Not to mention that there are quite a few systems that DO fit into the "elite class" requirements which are less powerful than systems that DO NOT. I could go out and buy a cheap HP desktop which runs off of a laptop charger or some crap like that, and it is going to be much slower than something like an OptiPlex 9010 with an i7, even though the older one is faster, more upgradable, and will continue to last much longer.
Unsupported my ass, I think Microsoft just wants attention.
@@RainyNightsTech I mean they lied about Vista too, but in a different way. I too would have been pissed if I bought a “Vista Capable” PC in 2006 that would end up not being able to run Vista. Ok, it would install but what’s the point of Vista if you can’t run aero? To me Vista was about the sexiness.
I fixed one of these this week, guy had a RAM stick that didn't match well, fixed that. I hate that this system does not have secure boot or TPM at all, and also you really want a 4th gen intel as far as a video adapter for web browsing in windows 10 or 11 so it's fast enough to be viable....and they sell computers that are ELITE class that are slower than this to this day (the optiplex 390 and newer ones like the 3020/7020/9020 which is the bare ass minimum for a nice experience)
I can confirm it's fixed. Bad thing about business computers is their diagnostic tests often still pass when things are wrong or faulty...it's a blessing and a curse. Luckily it had status lights during the crash looked it up....ram. I love business computers. However when they have a bad motherboard the diagnostics pass too and it's hard to sus out.
My optiplex 780 is still good on Windows 10