first time a guest driver nailed the starts, kudos to him (usually all guest driver is slower than matt or other carwow members coz they have done it a million times)
@@SW-by9ob not larger, interior wise, than a 5N that has more leg room than a Model Y... and the boot is more practical too. And the battery is 500kg+. The 5 N is actually, well, not so heavy...
That is exactly what I was thinking. It seems many of the content producers on UA-cam seem to forget about N Grin Boost. It seems almost as if they are trying to kneecap the Hyundai. 🤔🤷🏼♂
Is it though? I mean the power deficit of the Tesla is like ⅓ of the power of the Hyundai and it held remarkably well, especially in launches from standstill and pickups. Too bad in Europe we don't get the US 510hp Model 3 Performance...that might have been more of an even fight or even take the win in drag racing.
@@ameenr9129 Yeah, difference in batteries. For Europe it's panasonic battery pack for US it's LG battery pack which is able to release more juice to the electric motors. I don't know why. Probably supply-related issues.
They tested the waters with this one. If they contribute developing the 5N this can get really good. Something like a realistic twin turbo V6 sound from the G70 or better. 👍
@@deniszedreliable? You mean like this one that can do flat out on a track until the battery runs out.. Tesla can’t even do 10 mins, Audi can’t do 10 mins, VW can’t do 10 mins, etc etc
No.. albert only fine tuned the suspension. He's long since retired. The success comes from the leadership of Chung Eui-sung, current CEO of hyundai and grandson of Hyundai founder. Your logic is like this : Oh I grated a few onions but its contributed to success of a michelin star restaurant. Not to forget Peter Schryer contributed his part as well.......
@@AI-Records24 I'll write in detail. I live in a country where the main market for electric vehicles is used cars from an accident from the USA. By the way, we are among the TOP 10 in Europe in terms of growth rates of the electric car market. Our power system was destroyed by Russia, a month ago I personally had power at home 6 hours a day. And so on for 3 weeks. Our craftsmen disassemble electric vehicle batteries into autonomous power systems. My brother has specialized in repairing electric car batteries since 2017. In our country, every second technician at a service station that works with electric cars can disassemble and reassemble the battery. So here it is. 95% of craftsmen do not undertake the reconstruction or repair of KIA/Hyundai batteries. Even “live” cells from cars of these manufacturers are not used for home autonomous power supply systems. They are either worthless or dangerous. 1. In pursuit of marketing success, increase the permissible voltage range and kill a new battery in 2 years. 2. Allow recuperation at maximum voltages and, as a result, heat the cells. 3. Pack the cells tightly into bags so that they “bulge.” These are only 3 main “bugs” of KIA/Hyundai. I won’t continue, there are quite technical nuances there. Thanks, I'll go with Tesla for now. The second one, by the way. Before this, I owned 5 electric cars for more than 6 months.
So, all Tesla has to do is put in fake shifts and it's fun? They could literally do that with a software update. Being able to play engine noise through the speakers has been a Tesla feature long before Hyundai even had an EV
@@rustler08 it's not that easy, it completely replicates the ICE driving experience and was in development for at least 5 years and Tesla doesn’t have ICE experience. You also need the proper hardware, added steering wheel flappy paddles when they cut the indicator stalk? And also with very fast inverters and electric motors. Probably the M3P has that bit figured out but it won work on any Tesla...
@itsacrazyasian you might want to correct yourself, it might walk the European Highland M3P but no matter what it does it'll get absolutely slaughtered by a real Highland M3P from the States.
@@club3g82the US version had 50hp more than EU so if the Ioniq pressed boost for the extra 50hp it would be the same result as you just saw? Tesla lost the thrown in the 60$ market😊
As an ioniq 5 owner its cool to see what they have done with the N, its batshit crazy that thing. our car is the awd 320bhp standard car and its pretty nippy, cant begin to imagine 650bhp. I think electric cars get quite a bit of unwarranted hate for the lack of sound also, it does make sound, sounds like a slightly quieter aeroplane at takeoff, i quite like it lol.
@@onehorsepower and unlike with Tesla Performance you wont burn your brakes after first few corners .. and ioniq5 feels quite premium from inside compared to Tesla (I can only judge by Germany made Model Y and regular Ioniq5 though)
Hey mat, why didn't you use N grin boost, also if your running the engine noise then the hyundai is not in max performance mode according to every other road test of the thing.
Mat used Launch Controll. In launch controll N Boost is not available because already all Power is delivered. Also you have to wait 2min between every Start of launch controll. The Engine sound you heard had nothing to do with the Acceleration. One time he used N-Shift, this was the time he used this option where he was slower. Every other time he used the fastest way to accelerate ua-cam.com/video/zsSf6RZHi8I/v-deo.htmlsi=QrqKiA6qNeuw84y2
Idea: Somtimes its hard to tell wich Car went first over the line because the car closer to the camera blockes the view to the second. How about a drone flying over the finish line looking downwards while filming. I think it would add an interesting perspektive.
As someone who has owned both a Model 3P and an EV6 GT (Ioniq 5N’s sister car) there’s really no comparison in how they drive. The Tesla’s open differentials means the rear tires easily lose traction and the only way it can put power down is by braking a wheel. Not ideal. The brakes in the Tesla also get cooked easily. The suspension is nowhere nearly as good either. Hit a bump mid corner and the rear of the Tesla gets unsettled. The Kia (and Ioniq 5N) just stick and go. They are more comfortable, you feel the rear differential pushing you through curves and the brakes can stand up to real abuse. The battery pack also doesn’t overheat after a few hard launches like it does in the Tesla. The other amazing thing is how there isn’t as much of a range difference IRL as you would expect. My Model 3P was a 220-230 mile car at highway speeds. The Kia and Hyundai deliver almost the same range but can charge 10-80% in 50% less time. Peak charge rates are almost identical between the cars but the charging curve couldn’t be different. Whereas the Tesla peaks and then drops to under 100kW right around 50% SOC, the Hyundai and Kia keep pulling at 235-240kW up to and beyond 50% and even by 80% they’re still chugging along at 150kW vs. the 3 which will be around 50kW.
@@rafaeldelrey9239 I owned a pre-refresh Model 3P but I’ve driven a new one. The battery pack, motors, and basic vehicle architecture are identical between the two. The main difference is the adoption of adaptive damping finally, and wider rear tires. On the road they feel very similar. The new larger rear tires give you more purchase for a hard launch but they still don’t have any sort of ability to overcome open differentials and even in comfort mode the suspension is still overly firm. Tesla cheaped out by not adding a rear electronically controlled differential. In the Hyundai and Kia when you are in a curve and hit the accelerator you feel the rear end rotate. In the Tesla it just plows with understeer and cuts power and tries to brake the inside rear wheel to prevent slip and force power to the other side. I bought the GT before the 5N was available. If it had been available I would’ve gone with it. It’s one of the most fun to drive cars I’ve ever driven. I’m hoping the upcoming refreshed EV6 will get some of the new features the 5N launched with. Even so, I still prefer the drive of the EV6 over the refreshed 3. Especially as a daily driver, the EV6 is far more comfortable, still has stalks for turn signals and wipers, an IR rain sensor so the automatic wipers are actually usable, surround view cameras, cross traffic detection, a HUD, and much more practicality with the hatchback vs. sedan trunk.
@@_haimerej lol. You don’t have to tell me! The Tesla cult people are delusional. Never seen people get so attached to a brand and CEO like some people do with Tesla.
Both are fast it's as simple as that. The difference is the 5N and other true "performance" cars can be pushed to their limit around any track while the tesla can't even finish a 2 min lap without over heating. The model 3 is a one trick poney.
Weird by Tesla to give the US spec one 510hp and the UK one only 460hp (and Matt didn't use N Boost) - the US M3P has run 10.7. Still, two pretty awesome cars here!
Neither of those HP ratings are correct despite what tesla may say. The real values are 615hp for the US spec and 555hp for the ROW spec. The reason is they have two different batteries and the Panasonic from US spec cars can discharge more current so can make more power.
75k€ is a normal price? You can get used M2s or RS3s for 30-40k which are similarly fast on a racetrack as a IONIQ 5 n and much faster than a Model 3 Performance which also has terrible brakes.
@@Xzibitfreek Haha, that M3P you are referring to, is 15k cheaper than the 5N. If you really want to track the car, you can pay unplugged performance 15K to get a real track suspention/brakes, tyre combo... Then, i am not so sure the 5N would still be faster? That said, if you really buy a car for tracking, skip EV's...
@@Xzibitfreek You can get a long range with acceleration boost for like 20k and then put 10-20k worth of mods on it suspension and brake wise. It'll beat M2s and RS3 on most tracks (possible exception Nurburgring) and still burn no gas to do it.
I wasn't expecting to buy an electric car so soon, but what sold me on the IONIQ 5 was Misha's video doing 2 laps in a row in nurburgring. This car is, at least for me, in my opinion, the only “affordable” electric car that has a soul and is fun to drive.
@@brecherxp9795 The fake noises get people in the door, eventually they learn to turn them off and you get to know the actual motor/inverter whine, you hear the tires more and get a whole different feel for the car. Nice low center of gravity helps in the twisties once you get comfortable with how the weight transfers. I autocross my EV6GT and love it.
It's truly incredible to think that 20 years ago it was insane to see a sports car reach at quarter mile time in the 11 seconds. Nowadays an electric 5 seater S.U.V. made by Hyundai is nearly under 11 seconds (without boost mode too)!?! Honestly amazing how far technology has developed in the span of 2 decades!!!
@@karlk.6819you can’t just say “it wasn’t the fastest.” It was a multi-100k car made by two engineering powerhouses, and still didn’t reach the performance of these two cars, which sell for far less. OP didn’t mean sub-11 seconds was unheard of; they just said it was ridiculously impressive for the time, and it’s a milestone that the slr was still pretty far from, so even if “it wasn’t the fastest neither,” it still goes to show how impressive this all is.
@@humanform5354 driving the N to the track just to get out of town alone may already get the range in the red. That’s just no fun. Hyundai really needs to get this closer to 300 miles per charge. 220 is Nissan Leaf territory. I can see peeps ditching their N’s after 6 months for something with better ranges.
Mat used Launch Control. In launch controll N Boost Button is not available because already all Power is delivered. Also you have to wait 2min between every Start of launch controll. ua-cam.com/video/zsSf6RZHi8I/v-deo.htmlsi=QrqKiA6qNeuw84y2
@@tahditon9408 But you're right, at least at the Rolling Races he has to Push the Button. Or he used it at higher speeds where it wasn't filmed?? At a earlier race with an AMG he clearly used it and spoke of it, so he know it is there and how to use it. Would be very very weird if he didn't use it. Also, from my impression with the difference in Power, i don't think that the Hyundai would be clearly faster than the Tesla without Boost Mode. The US Performance Model 3 has 50hp more than this European one, and is, 60-130mph very identical with the Ioniq 5 N, whichs Boost Modes gives it also about 50hp.
I'm neutral with EVs, but first normal Ioniq 5's design stole my heart, and then the N version with these fake gears and engine sound, stole my heart again. I absolutely love Ioniq 5, and if I was forced to get an EV, it would be my first choice :D
As someone who pays for Ad Free You Tube, it is so annoying to get adverts in the middle of content and I am so fed up with looking at the green Peugeot 😮 In other news, it is surprising how much more interesting the Hyundai is with its ICE soundtrack. Great test and stellar results for both cars.
Here's the review: It's priced to be a great value, it drives brilliantly, you either like the way it looks or you don't, there is a decent local Hyundai dealership for you or there isn't. If all of the above checks, buy it.
It's still pretty astonishing that we have 2 (admittedly fairly expensive but not exorbitant) family 4 seaters running consistent 11 second quarter miles.
@@newzealanddave in the UK the 5N is cheaper to lease: 5N list £66950 (black with vision roof) Discounted to £65450 on Autotrader, other “ optional”colours as low as £62919 - that’s without any haggling M3P list £61290 (black with black interior) No discount available (yet) 5N is therefore £5660, £4160 or £1629 more expensive, depending on discount Salary sacrifice 4yrs 70k miles (fully maintained and insured, with company contribution): 5N £505/month M3P £690/month M3P is £185/month more expensive - £8880 over 4 years Faster AND cheaper In fact, the 5N is only very slightly more expensive than a M3LR (black, black, 19” wheels, enhanced a/p) @ £500/month
The European version of the Tesla Model 3 Performance is weaker and slower than the American version. I wonder how the Ioniq 5 N would do against the American version of the Tesla Model 3 Performance.
Did Matt ever use NGS? doesn't seem like the did. Did he use the aggressive reg braking to aid the stop? Curious. I know the Ioniq 5 N has a really aggressive reg braking set up/option.
Mat used Launch Controll. In launch controll N Boost is not available because already all Power is delivered. Also you have to wait 2min between every Start of launch controll. Regenerative Braking doesn't change anything in an Emergency Stop. The car has to automatically do everything it can to stop as fast as it can without you have to change any options. ua-cam.com/video/zsSf6RZHi8I/v-deo.htmlsi=QrqKiA6qNeuw84y2
Your vids are the perfect length. Detailed but concise and to the point, without a lot of fluff, long preambles, life stories, etc. great job! New sub.
후반부를 아이오닉5N이 따라잡는 이유가 무게와 세팅의 차이로 초반에 모델3 퍼포먼스가 빠르게 치고 나가지만, 결국 605마력과 21000rpm을 사용하는 아이오닉5N이 따라잡는 이유입니다. 맷! 왜 NGB를 안사용하나요? 그리고 테슬라 모델3 퍼포먼스는 LG 배터리를 써서 몇번을 드래그해도 저정도 버티는거지 파나소닉임면 금방 과열 경고로 속도가 떨어져쓸겁니다.
Fck a Tesla ... I wouldn't buy one even it was better than the N ... which it's not ... and you get the bonus of not being associated with that wucking fanker Smelon Nutsk
This exactly why I bought a Ionic 5 instead of a European Tesla nor a VW ID4. The Ionic 5 has good Korean batteries and also state of the art 800V electronics, which is superior to Tesla. Plus it is real car with friendly and safe user interface and not a full tablet car. The Ionic 5 is so good that I have bought a second one with a smaller battery for daily use in town. Extremly efficient at 10,8Kwh/100km in town and superfast charge for travels, even faster than Teslas : 10-80% 18min, 7-90% 28min charching at 3C max. (225Kw for the 77Kwh and 175Kw for the 58kwh)
I don't even need to watch it to tell you the 5N will beat the M3P made in China version. Would like to see the same race with the US battery model. (Now going to watch and hope I'm wrong!)
@@bbabackpark7075the United States built model 3’s have 510hp now compared to the Chinese and European built 450hp models. Not sure if that was from a larger HV battery or not.
The boost should have been used on the rolling start races where the entire 10 seconds could have been utilized. Apparently the boost is automatically applied when the launch program is initiated.
Both are fast it's as simple as that. The difference is the 5N and other true "performance" cars can be pushed to their limit around any track while the tesla can't even finish a 2 min lap without over heating. The model 3 is a one trick poney.
@@visje66u people over exaggerating like crazy. The US version stock does 10.9 -11.0 . Anything lower is using after market lighter wheels and removing seats.
@@karlk.6819 faster - be my guest, the 5N is not about numbers but is an actual performance car, that takes much more then putting in the biggest motor you can find. "Technological"? Give me proper, well thought out of functions that help me in my driving any day. Hate touchscreen functions and love the buttons and stalks on the 5N - on cameras, the ones with the real buttons are the ones professionals want to use - same here.
I wonder if the tesla would still manage to beat the hyundai on the emergency braking test if it was done repeatedly, since misha charoudin overheated the brakes of the model 3 half way through a nurburgring lap while on the ioniq 5 he managed to do two laps back to back with no issues.
Don't wonder, the model 3 brakes are not suitable for track usage. They kept the price low and build it for the road. For the 15k the N5 is more extensive, you can buy better brakes and track suspension.
Funny people have ran multiple track days with the new model 3 and the old one and nobody catches the brakes on “fire”. His channel relies solely on clickbait content and pushing cars till something dramatic happens so the gullible like you simply believe it without using your brain and thinking for themselves
I am hardcore Tesla fan. What I love in the video is that these cars are electric. Kudos to Hyundai for doing an amazing job and progress on their EVs. Still won't buy it or swap it for my new model 3. It's like having an android phone, it can be a fantastic phone but it's not the iPhone.(I use android). With my Tesla it just feels like it knows me. No keys, driver profile, infotainment system and hopefully self driving some day, although it's pretty awesome today on a highways. The future is awesome! and fast
The price premium is warranted simply because the i5N is a track weapon which won't overheat its brakes after just one lap of the Nurburgring (yes I'm looking at you M3P). The Tesla is no match on the track which is ridiculous given it's apparently a 'performance' model).
The difference is even more than that since the M3P fits under the LCT, so is eligible for no tax novated leasing, which makes the cost more around $70,000 in reality.
@@Ahogg1992 driver involvement? You mean car drives by itself? Cut the crap...lol. If you call that fake gear shift and crap sounds involment in driving than I feel sry for you...
Sat in a Ionic 5 N the other day, very comfortable seat very body hugging, I’ve never seen a steering wheel with so much going on tho, other than that awesome
Did we watch the same video? Because I saw an overpriced Hyundai not even be able to really outperform the UK's M3P. Remember that the US gets a more powerful version due to the batteries, so what you're see is the weakest performance of an M3P. This means that the M3P in the US is actually faster than the Hyundai while being over $20k less.
@@rustler08 you don't actually know anything about the 5N now do you? Unlike the M3P, very nice daily driver, extra turn of speed and nice handling, the 5 N is an actual performance car. No it's not in this video, neither is everything you bring in here about the M3P in this vid. And untill we actually put these cars cars together, US spec, it's actually not clear cut. This is no foot rollout, no boosst button, no prepped track, no rear seats out, no light wheel, no battery prep performance. I wouldn't be surprised if they are roughly as fast. The M3 P US bit faster from a dig, the 5 N has it at higher speeds is what I expect. But in the 5 N is not about dragracing numbers, it was developed to actually perform well on track, and there it is literally miles ahead of a M3P... And it's actually Model Y size, so let's see what that one does once refreshed... I actually appreciate each of these cars, just don't think one is superior to another just because you don't know anything about the other car...
@@rustler08 I’m not in the US, so that’s what you get, of course the Hyundai is more expensive, but no one talked about the value for money. I specifically said it’s the better performance EV, and that’s true
@@DjDanHolloway in the US, the 3 is considerably faster, and Tesla superchargers are invaluable. You couldn’t pay me to buy any other EV simply because of the lacking infrastructure.
@@modlifemodel 3 is ugly af compared to the 5N. It looks so bland and the front has some weird frog Chinese fish look to it. Then it's interior doesn't even have a cool guage cluster screen or HUD. Just so bland all the way around. Model 3 over heats in every vid and the US version is only .3 sec faster then the EU. Who gives af dude? This just proves how insecure u tesla people are when the car u bought only because of its speed loses then ur left with it basic traffic looking ass.
@@modlife What does “considerably faster” mean? I seriously doubt it’s much quicker in a straight line, and the Hyundai would DESTROY it on any track or twisty canyon road… before you go all fanboy on me, I own a Model 3 Performance (for my wife)
FYI, the US version of the M3P comes with the Panasonic battery, versus the LG battery offered in non-US M3P’s. Basically the US M3P will have 50-70hp more than the non-US model.
It's worth noting. The European version of the Model 3 Performance is considerably slower than the US version because of battery pack differences. Panasonic Vs LG battery pack My US spec Model 3 Performance ran back to back to back 10.9 @ 123mph at my local NHRA drag strip.
@@TheBostonGentlemanLet the Tezla fanboi tears and excuses flow. Matt was also not using the Hyundai's N-Boost or drag mode (you could hear the simulated gear changes which slow it down).
The boost should have been used on the rolling start races where the entire 10 seconds could have been utilized. Apparently the boost is automatically applied when the launch program is initiated.
@@ShadowSamaFN Electric cars are boring AF, Ionic 5N is the only electric car to have that manual mode which is fun. Looks are subjective, a lot of people hate tesla's and other electric cars but ohh boy that ionic 5n is loved even by electric car haters. I am a big electric car hater too. Hybrid makes more sense.
@@느낌표-t1l did you work for tesla or hyundai? I did, and there is no compassion, hyundai has 5 times the electric problems than tesla. While 1 company has 4 models the other has 15 models
This is a matchup I've been wanting to see, but unfortunately it left me with more questions that answers. N-Grin mode - was it used on the Ioniq 5 at all? Tesla battery preconditioning? And yeah, sucks you guys don't have the US-made M3P - THAT is the matchup I'd really really like to see.
@@davidsongood2627Both are fast it's as simple as that. The difference is the 5N and other true "performance" cars can be pushed to their limit around any track while the tesla can't even finish a 2 min lap without over heating. The model 3 is a one trick poney.
@@G82Watts Undoubtedly, the Hyundai has better thermals than the EU Model 3, but the US Model 3 has significantly better thermals than the EU one. More testing is required. The model 3 is very much not a 1 trick pony and can handle a hot lap or 2 completely fine. Check out "2024 model 3 Laguna seca" for evidence.
How is every website showing 11 something for the Ionic and 10 something for the 3, but the 3 lost here? What was the SOC for both cars on each run? You really need to start including SOC on your videos otherwise they are shit.
Wow... impressed - 190 bhp more in the IONIQ 5 N should win each time. But the impressive part is that hyundai made a really fun car that drives extremely well. I see the IONIQ 5 N as the Lotus Carlton back in the days. Fun stuff
OMG! This Hyundai is freaking amazing. To beat a M3P like that... Even if Tesla has a quicker start, then the power of Ioniq shows of. It looks like a regular tunned car, similar price with Tesla, interior sound and stunning features for interior. So, yeah, for those with a big pocket it is a really appealing car. I was so close to buy a regular 4wd last week, but Hyundai cannot offer any discount. So, for 3000 eur I had to choose an Id.4 :(
Why would everyone and their grandma be driving the top spec, high powered models? Do they all drive M4/5's now? Plenty of EV's with performance no different to the average ICE car for grandma to buy.
@@shawnm8232 WoW just because it`s AWD dont make it easier to drive. For Example if u start sliding most pleople would break but in a AWD wrong choice u need power through it to get more grip.
I dont think the average grandma will go for a 600hp car only cause it is electric nowadays ;-) The average ev is roughly same performance as their ice conterparts
@@SW-by9ob because with EV you can get sooo much power cheap :D so many street light racing boys will buy a x hundred Hp tesla because they can not afford petrol with that HP. And fun fact, i´ve demolished a car with 140Hp when i´ve send it into a tree because it was too fast for my skills. So many driwers wont be able to handle that amount of power espetially in hard situations like curves on ice.
i would buy the hyundai because i can use stalks to indikate. or change wipersettings without swiping my fingers on the computer with a not working camera based wiper sensor
first time a guest driver nailed the starts, kudos to him (usually all guest driver is slower than matt or other carwow members coz they have done it a million times)
It normally takes a few runs for people to realize Mat times it when the hands are about to fall, instead of waiting for them to actually drop 😂
He’s been on the channel plenty of times in the past
All guests except Yianni :))
@@stoicacristian711 yianni is carwow family 🙂
Mat cheats.
To think these cars are lighter than the new M5 by a significant margin at that 😂
Whic is a much larger car, and a hybrid packing both a battery and V8TT engine. Hardly surprising really?
@@SW-by9ob not larger, interior wise, than a 5N that has more leg room than a Model Y... and the boot is more practical too. And the battery is 500kg+. The 5 N is actually, well, not so heavy...
@@SW-by9ob 2.5 tonnes and you think that's a valid excuse ? Ford f150 raptor is lighter. Hummer h3 is lighter and this list goes on
Not to mention the Chonky Mercedes SL AMG
Over 600kg lighter! What the hell BMW did there?
5 seater electric family car drifting like a rally car is something else 🎉🎉🎉
@@Apnachannal1234 subscribed 👍
Audi S4 did this in 1999
@@Apnachannal1234Done, good luck
@@Apnachannal1234 i don't care
What? What’s an evo or wrx if not a five seater family car? Weird comment
You forgot to use NGR BOOST as well for the rolling tests. Great vid
That is exactly what I was thinking. It seems many of the content producers on UA-cam seem to forget about N Grin Boost. It seems almost as if they are trying to kneecap the Hyundai. 🤔🤷🏼♂
@@photogravity They tried it before but won't activate with less than 60% charge so maybe it's the same cause here
didn't need it
He didn't forget...Tesla wouldn't have lent him any more more cars if they had😂😂😂
Hyundai N Racing Department
Job well done!
It's headed by former head of BMW M. Now BMW M is launching cars like the new M5, which is ... embarrassing.
Is it though? I mean the power deficit of the Tesla is like ⅓ of the power of the Hyundai and it held remarkably well, especially in launches from standstill and pickups. Too bad in Europe we don't get the US 510hp Model 3 Performance...that might have been more of an even fight or even take the win in drag racing.
Korean cars are worst than Chinese cars these days...China catching up after less than a decade lol
@@g00gl31s3vil Exactly! I was saying the same thing!😂😂
Even they copied BMW's performance department name 😅
Strange days where a Family 5 seater is as quick as most V8 supercars
If you noticed lambo Avent SVJ 1/4 miles time is 11.2 sec , it's crazy better than v12 lol
My parents said if I hit 3k they'd buy me a professional camera begging you guys literally begging!!!🎉
My parents said if I hit 3k they'd buy me a professional camera begging you guys literally begging!!!🎉
My parents said if I hit 3k they'd buy me a professional camera begging you guys literally begging!!!🎉
And only if lambo revs before start. If not lambo is 1s slower@@jonasaung6924
without using the N boost is crazy
Indeed, unfortunately the EU version is slower than the USA version. :(
The EU version does 11.3, the USA version does 10.9 on the quartermile.
Are you sure? Under the same conditions?
I thought their quarter mile tarmac is a lot more stickier
@@ameenr9129 Yeah, difference in batteries. For Europe it's panasonic battery pack for US it's LG battery pack which is able to release more juice to the electric motors. I don't know why. Probably supply-related issues.
@@Maarten_vd maybe the difference comes from measuring including (EU) and excluding (US) one-foot-rollout? Difference is some 0,3 seconds.
@SpeedsterIG the US version Tesla literally has more horsepower, look on the spec sheets
The Hyundai sounds like gran Turismo on PlayStation 😂😂
they should have added the sound from i30N :D that would be fun
It sounds like when I tense my butt cheeks as hard as I can and fart
I honestly expected them to put WRC sounds in it.😅
It's just electronic sounds, so why not?😂
They tested the waters with this one. If they contribute developing the 5N this can get really good. Something like a realistic twin turbo V6 sound from the G70 or better. 👍
The way Albert Biermann and his team formed Kia/Hyundai is simply a story of pure success. What a man!
It's called electric
We are waiting for them to learn how to make reliable batteries. Nothing has changed since the first generation KIA Soul EV.
@@deniszedreliable? You mean like this one that can do flat out on a track until the battery runs out.. Tesla can’t even do 10 mins, Audi can’t do 10 mins, VW can’t do 10 mins, etc etc
No.. albert only fine tuned the suspension. He's long since retired. The success comes from the leadership of Chung Eui-sung, current CEO of hyundai and grandson of Hyundai founder. Your logic is like this : Oh I grated a few onions but its contributed to success of a michelin star restaurant. Not to forget Peter Schryer contributed his part as well.......
@@AI-Records24 I'll write in detail.
I live in a country where the main market for electric vehicles is used cars from an accident from the USA. By the way, we are among the TOP 10 in Europe in terms of growth rates of the electric car market. Our power system was destroyed by Russia, a month ago I personally had power at home 6 hours a day. And so on for 3 weeks. Our craftsmen disassemble electric vehicle batteries into autonomous power systems. My brother has specialized in repairing electric car batteries since 2017.
In our country, every second technician at a service station that works with electric cars can disassemble and reassemble the battery.
So here it is. 95% of craftsmen do not undertake the reconstruction or repair of KIA/Hyundai batteries. Even “live” cells from cars of these manufacturers are not used for home autonomous power supply systems. They are either worthless or dangerous.
1. In pursuit of marketing success, increase the permissible voltage range and kill a new battery in 2 years.
2. Allow recuperation at maximum voltages and, as a result, heat the cells.
3. Pack the cells tightly into bags so that they “bulge.”
These are only 3 main “bugs” of KIA/Hyundai.
I won’t continue, there are quite technical nuances there.
Thanks, I'll go with Tesla for now. The second one, by the way. Before this, I owned 5 electric cars for more than 6 months.
did you know : when mat ride i30n and said "I'm actually having fun in Hyundai" was the genesis of hyundai N brand
The genesis, huh? See what you did there
@@PsychicOracleimagine if Genesis Gr.B Rally Car or Genesis Gr.3 car replacing the Tesla Model 3.
So, all Tesla has to do is put in fake shifts and it's fun? They could literally do that with a software update.
Being able to play engine noise through the speakers has been a Tesla feature long before Hyundai even had an EV
@@rustler08 yea and I would like them to put it in their next car. Tbf, its a niche thing and their fanbase wont be too kindly to this so idk
@@rustler08 it's not that easy, it completely replicates the ICE driving experience and was in development for at least 5 years and Tesla doesn’t have ICE experience. You also need the proper hardware, added steering wheel flappy paddles when they cut the indicator stalk? And also with very fast inverters and electric motors. Probably the M3P has that bit figured out but it won work on any Tesla...
Matt forgot the N Boost again? I also thought there's a Drag option where is doesn't have simulated gears and sound.
Yeah. I thought the gear changes/engine noise is a mode that is slower. Plus the button you mentioned.
He did it without the simulated gears first
@@xAstroDadx no he didn’t. 2:30 is the first race and you can clearly hear the fake gears and engine noise
@@chrisridebike8 go back and check, after the first run, he clearly sets it to the sim gear mode
@@xAstroDadx but he didn’t use the boost button (sound would disapear) and I think he didnt activate drag mode ( not sure about that )
Why doesn't he press the Boost button?
There is a 50hp extra boost in Ionic5N
this is what i was going to post. i've driven the ionic5n and it'll walk the tesla in nboost
@itsacrazyasian you might want to correct yourself, it might walk the European Highland M3P but no matter what it does it'll get absolutely slaughtered by a real Highland M3P from the States.
@@club3g82the US version had 50hp more than EU so if the Ioniq pressed boost for the extra 50hp it would be the same result as you just saw? Tesla lost the thrown in the 60$ market😊
Why doesn't he use the fast m3p? People keep using the slower version of tesla to prove stuff
@@ChristopherBennett81it's 50 and a lot faster. Nice try
As an ioniq 5 owner its cool to see what they have done with the N, its batshit crazy that thing. our car is the awd 320bhp standard car and its pretty nippy, cant begin to imagine 650bhp. I think electric cars get quite a bit of unwarranted hate for the lack of sound also, it does make sound, sounds like a slightly quieter aeroplane at takeoff, i quite like it lol.
Could anybody in past decade years believe that Hyundai will make a 5 seaters faster than V8 in the future?
So easy today when you abandon fossil scam
So easy today when you abandon fossil scam... It's been always easy with electric motors
its still not fair to race a SUV against a sedan
I thought the 2024 M3P put out 510 HP?
라클이형?
Looks like Mat wasn't using the BOOST button, so...
With launch control there is full power.
The only way to get the 650hp is to use the N Grin Boost, yes, but ALSO using the Launch Control !
@@HandrasMegjött a szakértő 😄
And, as far as I know, it's a bit slower in the "ICE sound" mode, right?
@@hispronounsaretheythemonly when N shift is active. The sound alone doesn't matter.
Damn it Matt you kinda got me wanting a Hyundia now.
This Hyundai must be the best car of the year because it's one of the most drag-raced car this year
it is
and it actually works on track... and is still very comfortable... and roomy and practical.... and it's actually fun too... great car...
It hands down is. Best EV out there rn
@@aye3678except for the one thing that really matters: range.
@@onehorsepower and unlike with Tesla Performance you wont burn your brakes after first few corners .. and ioniq5 feels quite premium from inside compared to Tesla (I can only judge by Germany made Model Y and regular Ioniq5 though)
Hey mat, why didn't you use N grin boost, also if your running the engine noise then the hyundai is not in max performance mode according to every other road test of the thing.
Mat used Launch Controll. In launch controll N Boost is not available because already all Power is delivered. Also you have to wait 2min between every Start of launch controll.
The Engine sound you heard had nothing to do with the Acceleration. One time he used N-Shift, this was the time he used this option where he was slower. Every other time he used the fastest way to accelerate
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@@D00MINIKNGB was not used in the rolling race.
You can have the sound without simulating gear shifts, not making it any slower
Idea: Somtimes its hard to tell wich Car went first over the line because the car closer to the camera blockes the view to the second. How about a drone flying over the finish line looking downwards while filming. I think it would add an interesting perspektive.
Even a DJI mini 2 would do the job
I think its more than clear all the time mate, but a flying drone would be very useful.
As someone who has owned both a Model 3P and an EV6 GT (Ioniq 5N’s sister car) there’s really no comparison in how they drive. The Tesla’s open differentials means the rear tires easily lose traction and the only way it can put power down is by braking a wheel. Not ideal. The brakes in the Tesla also get cooked easily. The suspension is nowhere nearly as good either. Hit a bump mid corner and the rear of the Tesla gets unsettled. The Kia (and Ioniq 5N) just stick and go. They are more comfortable, you feel the rear differential pushing you through curves and the brakes can stand up to real abuse. The battery pack also doesn’t overheat after a few hard launches like it does in the Tesla. The other amazing thing is how there isn’t as much of a range difference IRL as you would expect. My Model 3P was a 220-230 mile car at highway speeds. The Kia and Hyundai deliver almost the same range but can charge 10-80% in 50% less time. Peak charge rates are almost identical between the cars but the charging curve couldn’t be different. Whereas the Tesla peaks and then drops to under 100kW right around 50% SOC, the Hyundai and Kia keep pulling at 235-240kW up to and beyond 50% and even by 80% they’re still chugging along at 150kW vs. the 3 which will be around 50kW.
Did you own the new Model 3?
@@rafaeldelrey9239 I owned a pre-refresh Model 3P but I’ve driven a new one. The battery pack, motors, and basic vehicle architecture are identical between the two. The main difference is the adoption of adaptive damping finally, and wider rear tires. On the road they feel very similar. The new larger rear tires give you more purchase for a hard launch but they still don’t have any sort of ability to overcome open differentials and even in comfort mode the suspension is still overly firm. Tesla cheaped out by not adding a rear electronically controlled differential. In the Hyundai and Kia when you are in a curve and hit the accelerator you feel the rear end rotate. In the Tesla it just plows with understeer and cuts power and tries to brake the inside rear wheel to prevent slip and force power to the other side. I bought the GT before the 5N was available. If it had been available I would’ve gone with it. It’s one of the most fun to drive cars I’ve ever driven. I’m hoping the upcoming refreshed EV6 will get some of the new features the 5N launched with. Even so, I still prefer the drive of the EV6 over the refreshed 3. Especially as a daily driver, the EV6 is far more comfortable, still has stalks for turn signals and wipers, an IR rain sensor so the automatic wipers are actually usable, surround view cameras, cross traffic detection, a HUD, and much more practicality with the hatchback vs. sedan trunk.
@@CFG39 That is not true. Thew 2024 model 3 performance has new motors that provide a lot more power and torque
Be careful. The Tesla fanboys might come for you and tell you that you don't understand the genius of Elon.
@@_haimerej lol. You don’t have to tell me! The Tesla cult people are delusional. Never seen people get so attached to a brand and CEO like some people do with Tesla.
Seems like we need another race. The USA M3P vs IONIQ 5 N with N Boost.
This.
theyy never use boost and wonder
The USA M3P is way quicker. It does the 1/4 mile in 10.6.
Both are fast it's as simple as that. The difference is the 5N and other true "performance" cars can be pushed to their limit around any track while the tesla can't even finish a 2 min lap without over heating. The model 3 is a one trick poney.
This is simply not true. I drive my m3p on track often@@G82Watts
Weird by Tesla to give the US spec one 510hp and the UK one only 460hp (and Matt didn't use N Boost) - the US M3P has run 10.7.
Still, two pretty awesome cars here!
Neither of those HP ratings are correct despite what tesla may say. The real values are 615hp for the US spec and 555hp for the ROW spec. The reason is they have two different batteries and the Panasonic from US spec cars can discharge more current so can make more power.
@@stinger15auforgot about that. 😮
@@stinger15au What is a ROW spec?
edit. I think I figured it out: ROW = Rest of the World?
US version does 2.8/10.8
I wish it was a US car these UK cars aren’t the same
the price difference is 20.000€ in Germany, you can now have a lambo killer, even in corners, for the price of a normal car.
75k€ is a normal price? You can get used M2s or RS3s for 30-40k which are similarly fast on a racetrack as a IONIQ 5 n and much faster than a Model 3 Performance which also has terrible brakes.
@@Xzibitfreek Haha, that M3P you are referring to, is 15k cheaper than the 5N. If you really want to track the car, you can pay unplugged performance 15K to get a real track suspention/brakes, tyre combo... Then, i am not so sure the 5N would still be faster?
That said, if you really buy a car for tracking, skip EV's...
@@Xzibitfreek You can get a long range with acceleration boost for like 20k and then put 10-20k worth of mods on it suspension and brake wise. It'll beat M2s and RS3 on most tracks (possible exception Nurburgring) and still burn no gas to do it.
Oh come on...I think that's a bit of a stretch unless you are cherrypicking the absolute slowest of the lambos...like a 10 year old Gallardo
You guys got the best spec. HUD, sub and live rearview mirror. US spec loses the “extras”. No idea why.
I wasn't expecting to buy an electric car so soon, but what sold me on the IONIQ 5 was Misha's video doing 2 laps in a row in nurburgring.
This car is, at least for me, in my opinion, the only “affordable” electric car that has a soul and is fun to drive.
Feel the same
Cars dont have souls. And souls are not dependent on noise.
@@brecherxp9795 The fake noises get people in the door, eventually they learn to turn them off and you get to know the actual motor/inverter whine, you hear the tires more and get a whole different feel for the car. Nice low center of gravity helps in the twisties once you get comfortable with how the weight transfers. I autocross my EV6GT and love it.
@@bfvader so am I my Tesla.
Lol vroom vroom what is this childish rubbish
It's truly incredible to think that 20 years ago it was insane to see a sports car reach at quarter mile time in the 11 seconds. Nowadays an electric 5 seater S.U.V. made by Hyundai is nearly under 11 seconds (without boost mode too)!?!
Honestly amazing how far technology has developed in the span of 2 decades!!!
Indeed, and the USA version of the model 3P is a proper 10 second car on the quartermile.
Not sure what are you talking about. In 2003 mercedes slr did the 1/4 mile in 11.6 @ 125 and wasn't the fastest neither
Nothing is special here.
Many cheap Chinese EVs are now doing the same
@@karlk.6819you can’t just say “it wasn’t the fastest.” It was a multi-100k car made by two engineering powerhouses, and still didn’t reach the performance of these two cars, which sell for far less. OP didn’t mean sub-11 seconds was unheard of; they just said it was ridiculously impressive for the time, and it’s a milestone that the slr was still pretty far from, so even if “it wasn’t the fastest neither,” it still goes to show how impressive this all is.
@@karlk.6819the 2006 F430 done a quarter mile in 11.43.
1:58 "But I'm just edging him" 🤣🤣🤣
Matt is so hot 🔥
@@dr.ramsesmouelhi994 so gay
🤨🤨🤨
The joke is?
@@hetherington35edging is a term used for uhh mastur______ (you get the point)
0:08 where is the “I’m mat watson and ur watching carwow”?!
I think he is avoiding it now
@@jamesanderson6984 yeah, probably getting away from being memed or something
Matt did you forget about the temporary boost mode on the Hyundai! 😮
Without N boost? 💀
Fr
And not us spec model 3 would destroy that Hyundai not even close
The N’s 220 mile range is a joke. Hyundai please fix this.
@@teeminator30I5N is more for "playing around"... If you want more range, get the regular "non performance" version...
@@humanform5354 driving the N to the track just to get out of town alone may already get the range in the red. That’s just no fun. Hyundai really needs to get this closer to 300 miles per charge. 220 is Nissan Leaf territory. I can see peeps ditching their N’s after 6 months for something with better ranges.
7:35
"Continually edging, eh?"
relatable
he was edging away lol
2:30 'I'm just edging him!'
@@JellyLancelot ayyyyyoooooo
@@divin3kag3242 But it's true, that is what he said.
Am I the only one noticing Matt didn’t use the boost button?
Mat used Launch Control. In launch controll N Boost Button is not available because already all Power is delivered. Also you have to wait 2min between every Start of launch controll.
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@@tahditon9408 But you're right, at least at the Rolling Races he has to Push the Button. Or he used it at higher speeds where it wasn't filmed?? At a earlier race with an AMG he clearly used it and spoke of it, so he know it is there and how to use it. Would be very very weird if he didn't use it. Also, from my impression with the difference in Power, i don't think that the Hyundai would be clearly faster than the Tesla without Boost Mode. The US Performance Model 3 has 50hp more than this European one, and is, 60-130mph very identical with the Ioniq 5 N, whichs Boost Modes gives it also about 50hp.
I'm neutral with EVs, but first normal Ioniq 5's design stole my heart, and then the N version with these fake gears and engine sound, stole my heart again. I absolutely love Ioniq 5, and if I was forced to get an EV, it would be my first choice :D
Can we just appreciate Carwow picking the best cars to drag race each other.
Even with No N Boost and gimped Euro M3P version? Nah
As someone who pays for Ad Free You Tube, it is so annoying to get adverts in the middle of content and I am so fed up with looking at the green Peugeot 😮
In other news, it is surprising how much more interesting the Hyundai is with its ICE soundtrack. Great test and stellar results for both cars.
dude.. at least get a free ad blocker 😜
@@axiomic 👍 that won’t make that green Peugeot disappear though will it 😩
UA-cam Vanced exists @stephencollins7714
@@stephencollins7714 no, no it won't. But you'll feel less miserable when you fast forward through it..
Ditch ad free TY and get Adguard + SponsorBlock + DeArrow if you use Safari, or replace Adguard with uBlock for Firefox or anything else.
Ok we have had multiple races but where is the review for the Ioniq 5n?
Here's the review: It's priced to be a great value, it drives brilliantly, you either like the way it looks or you don't, there is a decent local Hyundai dealership for you or there isn't. If all of the above checks, buy it.
@@katalysis we need a review like the boot space, annoying things, cool things, interior and more review
not just that
It's still pretty astonishing that we have 2 (admittedly fairly expensive but not exorbitant) family 4 seaters running consistent 11 second quarter miles.
IONIQ 5 is more like Model Y than Model 3.
The 3 is nerfed in the UK. The US packs at least 50 more horsepower.
@@devinmurray5280 Source?
The Tesla is 10k less, with tax credit 17k less, big difference.
@@newzealanddave in the UK the 5N is cheaper to lease:
5N list £66950 (black with vision roof)
Discounted to £65450 on Autotrader, other “ optional”colours as low as £62919 - that’s without any haggling
M3P list £61290 (black with black interior)
No discount available (yet)
5N is therefore £5660, £4160 or £1629 more expensive, depending on discount
Salary sacrifice 4yrs 70k miles (fully maintained and insured, with company contribution):
5N £505/month
M3P £690/month
M3P is £185/month more expensive - £8880 over 4 years
Faster AND cheaper
In fact, the 5N is only very slightly more expensive than a M3LR (black, black, 19” wheels, enhanced a/p) @ £500/month
Settled don’t care what anyone says or thinks.
The Hyundai Ionic 5 N is the best electric car since 2020
I'd argue it's the best since ever
Only your opinion matters.
The European version of the Tesla Model 3 Performance is weaker and slower than the American version. I wonder how the Ioniq 5 N would do against the American version of the Tesla Model 3 Performance.
If only it had more range 🤧
@@Mouwcat Yea, that's my only gripe with it
1:58 'Got me on the line but I'm just edging him' - Richard Symons 2024
Good race but Matt, why didn't you used N Boost?
Gotta put it into N boost shift grin mode Matt. Try again No noises no gears in the IONIQ5N.
He won without the boost. Tesla is played out. 😁
We are waiting for a track comparasion between this two.
Wrong channel.
@@billymays7210 why?
@@pilotozetec This channel is almost exclusively mash the go pedal and go straight for a few seconds.
If I remember correctly he has never posted a video of the track.
@@dongsimjikimi2856 you are wrong, search please.
2:32 "I'm just edging him" lol
Pause 🤔
My parents said if I hit 3k they'd buy me a professional camera begging you guys literally begging!!!🎉
3:40 “Now he’s coming”
@@Apnachannal1234 beggar
@@Apnachannal1234beggar
Did Matt ever use NGS? doesn't seem like the did. Did he use the aggressive reg braking to aid the stop? Curious. I know the Ioniq 5 N has a really aggressive reg braking set up/option.
Mat used Launch Controll. In launch controll N Boost is not available because already all Power is delivered. Also you have to wait 2min between every Start of launch controll.
Regenerative Braking doesn't change anything in an Emergency Stop. The car has to automatically do everything it can to stop as fast as it can without you have to change any options.
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@@D00MINIK what about the roll race?
Your vids are the perfect length. Detailed but concise and to the point, without a lot of fluff, long preambles, life stories, etc. great job! New sub.
후반부를 아이오닉5N이 따라잡는 이유가 무게와 세팅의 차이로 초반에 모델3 퍼포먼스가 빠르게 치고 나가지만, 결국 605마력과 21000rpm을 사용하는 아이오닉5N이 따라잡는 이유입니다.
맷! 왜 NGB를 안사용하나요?
그리고 테슬라 모델3 퍼포먼스는 LG 배터리를 써서 몇번을 드래그해도 저정도 버티는거지 파나소닉임면 금방 과열 경고로 속도가 떨어져쓸겁니다.
Do you work for Hyundai?
@@huntno 아니오. 현대서 일하지않습니다. 나는 기술을 좋아하는 사람입니다.
I own the 2024 M3P and absolutely love it. But damn that Hyundai is impressive 🤯
Where is the NGB button?
Have you forgotten to put the Tesla’s acceleration mode into Insane? Almost everyone else did this in about 10.9 seconds
The Uk version is slower
The Hyundai has been clocked at 11-11.1 in the states too.
Fck a Tesla ... I wouldn't buy one even it was better than the N ... which it's not ... and you get the bonus of not being associated with that wucking fanker Smelon Nutsk
They make no mention or show the battery state of charge either. Typical BS reviews.
아이오닉5N (SK ON 배터리) vs M3P (LG에너지솔류션) = 한국산 배터리의 싸움
미국에서 판매되는 버전은 파라소닉 배터리를 쓰는데 과격한 주행시 상대적으로 과열이 덜 된다고 합니다.
브레이크 과열은 모델3 퍼포먼스 고질병이라 트랙 돌려면 튜닝해야 해요.
@@uribury871 서킷가서 달릴려면 카본브레이크 달아야대는데 4천만원 듬.
This exactly why I bought a Ionic 5 instead of a European Tesla nor a VW ID4. The Ionic 5 has good Korean batteries and also state of the art 800V electronics, which is superior to Tesla. Plus it is real car with friendly and safe user interface and not a full tablet car. The Ionic 5 is so good that I have bought a second one with a smaller battery for daily use in town. Extremly efficient at 10,8Kwh/100km in town and superfast charge for travels, even faster than Teslas : 10-80% 18min, 7-90% 28min charching at 3C max. (225Kw for the 77Kwh and 175Kw for the 58kwh)
@@Raoul_Volfoni잘했어 친구!!😊
아재 도광양회하쇼
The us version with 510 hp would be interesting
Power to weight ratio it might win
the tesla or the hyundai?
@@minicello231Does it matter? Boring car (Tesla) and fake wanabee engine noise (Hyundai) who wants this?
Right they go like 10.7 in the 1/4
I’d take the Tesla. More reliable car and charging infrastructure.
I don't even need to watch it to tell you the 5N will beat the M3P made in China version. Would like to see the same race with the US battery model. (Now going to watch and hope I'm wrong!)
미국 배터리는 없어. m3p는 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ한국산이나 일본산이야 멍청아 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@bbabackpark7075the United States built model 3’s have 510hp now compared to the Chinese and European built 450hp models. Not sure if that was from a larger HV battery or not.
Matt, did you forget to push the RED N BUTTON???? to boost and reach the max power of Ioniq 5N
Who could've ever imagined that Baby Blue would one day be a racing colour? Good job, Hyundai! 👏👏
Richard Petty
Are you being sarcastic?! Because Gulf liveries for the last 50 years?!
@@billymays7210 - Of course I know about the Gulf livery, I'm talking about road cars, not race cars.
@@module79l28 Haha ok, my bad… “racing colour”… what was I thinking?! 🤣
Did you use the boost button Matt?
No
The boost should have been used on the rolling start races where the entire 10 seconds could have been utilized. Apparently the boost is automatically applied when the launch program is initiated.
No chance there's no 200hp difference here, even with the weight difference
Misha's video if that Hyunday ripping around the ring is still mindblowing.
5N's best EV in the World
Next test would be the US Model 3 vs the Ioniq with boost button
US model 3's are doing 10.8's
Yeah the LG battery in the Shanghai model is a disappointment.
The best time i saw was 10.92 and the best time for the 5N was 11sec. Basically equal.
It was in Launch control mode, which is full power without boost button needed.
@@avis1978 best on dragy is 10.79 stock, 10.65 with seats taken out and 18" wheels
Lg battery best on dragy is 11.22 stock
The U.S M3 can easily run 10.9 1/4 mile and has more horse power with a different battery pack, would be nice to see it compared.
Why is it made to be different from Chinese?
They run 10.6 already. So way faster than this Chinese M3P, and the 5N.
Both are fast it's as simple as that. The difference is the 5N and other true "performance" cars can be pushed to their limit around any track while the tesla can't even finish a 2 min lap without over heating. The model 3 is a one trick poney.
@@visje66u people over exaggerating like crazy. The US version stock does 10.9 -11.0 . Anything lower is using after market lighter wheels and removing seats.
@@G82WattsAnd probably on prepped, sticky surface as well.
Imagine the powertrain of the Ioniq 5N with the aero capability of the Ioniq 6
Or in the N vision 74.
imagine still been beated by a xiaomi that cost less and is faster and technological at the same time
@@karlk.6819 faster - be my guest, the 5N is not about numbers but is an actual performance car, that takes much more then putting in the biggest motor you can find. "Technological"? Give me proper, well thought out of functions that help me in my driving any day. Hate touchscreen functions and love the buttons and stalks on the 5N - on cameras, the ones with the real buttons are the ones professionals want to use - same here.
The 6 N is due.
basically trading practicality for aero. Choose what fits your life/driving - but it won't be much lighter...
NGB boost not used. interesting.
cuz youtuber doesnt even know how to use it.
I wonder if the tesla would still manage to beat the hyundai on the emergency braking test if it was done repeatedly, since misha charoudin overheated the brakes of the model 3 half way through a nurburgring lap while on the ioniq 5 he managed to do two laps back to back with no issues.
Don't wonder, the model 3 brakes are not suitable for track usage. They kept the price low and build it for the road. For the 15k the N5 is more extensive, you can buy better brakes and track suspension.
Funny people have ran multiple track days with the new model 3 and the old one and nobody catches the brakes on “fire”. His channel relies solely on clickbait content and pushing cars till something dramatic happens so the gullible like you simply believe it without using your brain and thinking for themselves
@@Maarten_vdthe brakes on the model 3 aren’t the problem, but the brake pads are intentionally very soft for emergency usage only
@@hardywoodaway9912 Ok, i don't know about that, but I assume, someone who wants to race on the track can replace the brake pads then ;)
Brakes were always a problem for teslas. So much problems compared to other cars
I drive mine in manual for fun. And if I need to 'jump ahead' for any reason, I just push the NGB button.... (which Matt didn't even use...? Why?)
I am hardcore Tesla fan. What I love in the video is that these cars are electric. Kudos to Hyundai for doing an amazing job and progress on their EVs. Still won't buy it or swap it for my new model 3. It's like having an android phone, it can be a fantastic phone but it's not the iPhone.(I use android). With my Tesla it just feels like it knows me. No keys, driver profile, infotainment system and hopefully self driving some day, although it's pretty awesome today on a highways.
The future is awesome! and fast
That hyundai revs in autotune
Matt where was the BOOST button!?!?!?
It’s too much work for him..
The Hyundai n looks absolutely gorgeous. Love the colours and design absolutely stunning
The I5N is too expensive here in Australia. They want $130k for it, and the M3P is $90k. Forty thousand dollars for brum-brum noises? Dreamin'.
Why would anyone pay $40k more for the Hyundai when the Tesla M3P is still incredibly faster from 0-100?
The price premium is warranted simply because the i5N is a track weapon which won't overheat its brakes after just one lap of the Nurburgring (yes I'm looking at you M3P). The Tesla is no match on the track which is ridiculous given it's apparently a 'performance' model).
@@fharman9869 which applies to exactly 4 people. Anyone serious about trackwork changes the brakes anyway and $40,000 buys you a LOT of upgrades.
The difference is even more than that since the M3P fits under the LCT, so is eligible for no tax novated leasing, which makes the cost more around $70,000 in reality.
@@JonoJono-fd4xt
Does Australia get the good batteries or the exploding LG crap? Price is ludicrous even for Tesla 3 let alone Ioniq 5.
Would be interesting to see the SOC of the cars, before races like this...
The Hyundai was 97% and the Tesla was 79%
Hyundai are smashing it at the moment stats are one thing but actually trying to make a car fun is what we all want
EVs are never going to be fun.
@@mauricetoussaint7283 at least they are trying to bring back driver involvement
@@Ahogg1992 driver involvement? You mean car drives by itself? Cut the crap...lol. If you call that fake gear shift and crap sounds involment in driving than I feel sry for you...
If u want fun get a bmw m3 or m4 comp.xdrive.
@@G82Watts If you want fun, get a manual.
I want to see a track battle between these two! Seems like M3P wins on Price and HI5N wins on Fun
I would also LOVE to see the HI5N vs Model Y performance Highland when it drops. ❤❤❤
Sat in a Ionic 5 N the other day, very comfortable seat very body hugging, I’ve never seen a steering wheel with so much going on tho, other than that awesome
Richard Simons, I started watching his videos a few years back after he had been on Carwow. Great guy and him and his team do some great videos.
😊🤗
It’s just so soo so amazing what Hyundai is capable of when they want to, credit where credit is due, it’s the better performance EV!
And also very reliable EV Performance machine.
@@purwantiallan5089 Bruh, the car just released. You cannot say it's reliable when there is literally no data to support that
Did we watch the same video? Because I saw an overpriced Hyundai not even be able to really outperform the UK's M3P. Remember that the US gets a more powerful version due to the batteries, so what you're see is the weakest performance of an M3P.
This means that the M3P in the US is actually faster than the Hyundai while being over $20k less.
@@rustler08 you don't actually know anything about the 5N now do you? Unlike the M3P, very nice daily driver, extra turn of speed and nice handling, the 5 N is an actual performance car. No it's not in this video, neither is everything you bring in here about the M3P in this vid.
And untill we actually put these cars cars together, US spec, it's actually not clear cut. This is no foot rollout, no boosst button, no prepped track, no rear seats out, no light wheel, no battery prep performance. I wouldn't be surprised if they are roughly as fast. The M3 P US bit faster from a dig, the 5 N has it at higher speeds is what I expect. But in the 5 N is not about dragracing numbers, it was developed to actually perform well on track, and there it is literally miles ahead of a M3P... And it's actually Model Y size, so let's see what that one does once refreshed... I actually appreciate each of these cars, just don't think one is superior to another just because you don't know anything about the other car...
@@rustler08 I’m not in the US, so that’s what you get, of course the Hyundai is more expensive, but no one talked about the value for money.
I specifically said it’s the better performance EV, and that’s true
i think that hyundai looks great.. probably the only ev id consider at the moment
@@DjDanHolloway in the US, the 3 is considerably faster, and Tesla superchargers are invaluable. You couldn’t pay me to buy any other EV simply because of the lacking infrastructure.
@@modlifeThe Hyundai may be better but they don't have superchargers
@@modlifemodel 3 is ugly af compared to the 5N. It looks so bland and the front has some weird frog Chinese fish look to it. Then it's interior doesn't even have a cool guage cluster screen or HUD. Just so bland all the way around. Model 3 over heats in every vid and the US version is only .3 sec faster then the EU. Who gives af dude? This just proves how insecure u tesla people are when the car u bought only because of its speed loses then ur left with it basic traffic looking ass.
@@varietyegg isn’t that what I said about superchargers? I disagree on what is better - I’ve driven both.
@@modlife What does “considerably faster” mean? I seriously doubt it’s much quicker in a straight line, and the Hyundai would DESTROY it on any track or twisty canyon road… before you go all fanboy on me, I own a Model 3 Performance (for my wife)
Tesla should add that reving noise and gear selection sound while your driving like the Oiniq 5 N
Nice way to start the day
Should do a race with the battery 10% left to see how they perform then.
😁
It's over when the Vtec activates in the speakers
FYI, the US version of the M3P comes with the Panasonic battery, versus the LG battery offered in non-US M3P’s. Basically the US M3P will have 50-70hp more than the non-US model.
Nothing to see here...
Ioniq 5 N already proved on the Nürburgring that is a better option than the M3 Performance.
It's also significantly more expensive and the Nurburgring is irrelevant to 99% of the population.
@@TecnamTwin If you want quality you have to pay for it, I have an Ioniq 5 and its far better than my previous Model Y.
I’m an european Tesla M3P owner but this Hyundai… Geeeeeezzz it’s astonishing
It's worth noting. The European version of the Model 3 Performance is considerably slower than the US version because of battery pack differences. Panasonic Vs LG battery pack
My US spec Model 3 Performance ran back to back to back 10.9 @ 123mph at my local NHRA drag strip.
foot rollout? prepped surface? Ok, buddy....
Carwow, you need to run it against the US version of the Model 3, it is noticeably faster than the EU version.
These guys are notorious for setting up bullshit races and not doing a proper accurate lineup
He didn’t press boost in the Hyundai for the extra 50hp so he actually did Tesla a favour?
@@ChristopherBennett81He's using the EU version of the Model 3 Performance which is slower so he did nobody a favor and a fucked up race video?
@@ChristopherBennett81Tesla does the 1/4 mile in 10.8 sec
Idk how much the Hyundai would do it with the boost.
@@TheBostonGentlemanLet the Tezla fanboi tears and excuses flow. Matt was also not using the Hyundai's N-Boost or drag mode (you could hear the simulated gear changes which slow it down).
Did use the boost button ?
No
They probably dont to preserve car owners batteries
He is in LAUNCH MODE, it is full power without limitation so no boost button needed.
The boost should have been used on the rolling start races where the entire 10 seconds could have been utilized. Apparently the boost is automatically applied when the launch program is initiated.
The standard and long-range Ioniq5 are going for under £30k with less than 20k miles on the clock. Absolute steal!
They aren’t the N so no point in having one
IONIQ 5 N is the best EV out there right now. What a car!
Chinese people laughing at your comment
Bro is delusional 😂😂. The hyundai looks shit bro. The tesla beets it on looks, price and overall everything. Would take the tesla over it anyday.
I agree. My N due soon
@@ShadowSamaFN Electric cars are boring AF, Ionic 5N is the only electric car to have that manual mode which is fun. Looks are subjective, a lot of people hate tesla's and other electric cars but ohh boy that ionic 5n is loved even by electric car haters. I am a big electric car hater too. Hybrid makes more sense.
@@ShadowSamaFN lol,tesla looks like a toy
Glad I'm not paying tire replacement bills for these guys!
I never wanted an EV…… until Ionic N! I need one!
Buy one.
Nahh, skip that, they have too much battery and charging problems, had to replace a lot of those components in the past 3 years
@@vmdenis3350it’s been only produced since a year, se yeah.
@@vmdenis3350less problem than model 3
@@느낌표-t1l did you work for tesla or hyundai? I did, and there is no compassion, hyundai has 5 times the electric problems than tesla. While 1 company has 4 models the other has 15 models
cant wait to see the new ZR1 smoking Italians
It's still american...
just dont cry if get smoked by sf90,still if i had the money would buy the zr1 even if were both same price
@@melodiesacademy it isn't beating the sf90 buddy
Any european car smokes any american car, even tesla gets eaten by rimac nevera
@@jh4892 The z06 goes to 60 in 2.6 - with less than 700 hp. So I’d expect the 1000 hp ZR1 to beat the SF90's 2.5 run, yes
The fact that.. the Tesla only has 460hp to play, whereas the Hyundai has 650hp..that was pretty even..
The fact that the N is a suv beating a compact car is very impressive
The fact is Tesla is a stagnant brand that has literally been overtaken by every one of its peers.
Exactly @@bigdi77- he missed the difference in weight when throwing shade on the Hyundai
This is a matchup I've been wanting to see, but unfortunately it left me with more questions that answers.
N-Grin mode - was it used on the Ioniq 5 at all?
Tesla battery preconditioning?
And yeah, sucks you guys don't have the US-made M3P - THAT is the matchup I'd really really like to see.
"You're not that heavy" lol
this is not the best 1/4 miles record for 5N i have seen on youtube, some youtubers managed to get straight 11.0s
Same for the us version of the Tesla. It can run high 10s.
@@davidsongood2627Both are fast it's as simple as that. The difference is the 5N and other true "performance" cars can be pushed to their limit around any track while the tesla can't even finish a 2 min lap without over heating. The model 3 is a one trick poney.
@@G82Watts Undoubtedly, the Hyundai has better thermals than the EU Model 3, but the US Model 3 has significantly better thermals than the EU one. More testing is required. The model 3 is very much not a 1 trick pony and can handle a hot lap or 2 completely fine. Check out "2024 model 3 Laguna seca" for evidence.
He never used the NGS button for the full 641hp. He was racing with "only" 600hp. But yes these can consistently do 11 flat in the 1/4 mile
@@G82Watts I agree with you, but FYI, you have posted “poney” like 7 times here…
How is every website showing 11 something for the Ionic and 10 something for the 3, but the 3 lost here? What was the SOC for both cars on each run? You really need to start including SOC on your videos otherwise they are shit.
Wow... impressed - 190 bhp more in the IONIQ 5 N should win each time. But the impressive part is that hyundai made a really fun car that drives extremely well. I see the IONIQ 5 N as the Lotus Carlton back in the days. Fun stuff
OMG! This Hyundai is freaking amazing. To beat a M3P like that... Even if Tesla has a quicker start, then the power of Ioniq shows of.
It looks like a regular tunned car, similar price with Tesla, interior sound and stunning features for interior. So, yeah, for those with a big pocket it is a really appealing car. I was so close to buy a regular 4wd last week, but Hyundai cannot offer any discount. So, for 3000 eur I had to choose an Id.4 :(
breakings news having 200 more horsepower makes you faster wow
@@steffan5304 yeah, more HP, but also more weight, less aerodynamics. But, yeah, speeds up it the more powerful powertrain is visible.
This is the euro version, American version cab do.10.9 easily...
Both probably faster than Yianni's Lambo
and yet 0% as cool.
Most people can't even handle early 2010's v8's, how will they handle such speed? Everyone and their grandma will be driving these in the next decade.
It's easy with AWD.
Why would everyone and their grandma be driving the top spec, high powered models? Do they all drive M4/5's now?
Plenty of EV's with performance no different to the average ICE car for grandma to buy.
@@shawnm8232 WoW just because it`s AWD dont make it easier to drive. For Example if u start sliding most pleople would break but in a AWD wrong choice u need power through it to get more grip.
I dont think the average grandma will go for a 600hp car only cause it is electric nowadays ;-) The average ev is roughly same performance as their ice conterparts
@@SW-by9ob because with EV you can get sooo much power cheap :D so many street light racing boys will buy a x hundred Hp tesla because they can not afford petrol with that HP. And fun fact, i´ve demolished a car with 140Hp when i´ve send it into a tree because it was too fast for my skills. So many driwers wont be able to handle that amount of power espetially in hard situations like curves on ice.
i would buy the hyundai because i can use stalks to indikate.
or change wipersettings without swiping my fingers on the computer with a not working camera based wiper sensor
0:53 Bro has the Roblox car😂