I fought Catholicism for 56 years, once God gave me the grace to understand it (and He had to be persistent), I somehow knew I was going to be Catholic a year before I made the decision, trying to fight it the whole time. 4 years ago this Easter, I came into the Church and have NEVER been more fulfilled. Thank you Jesus!
Welcome Home. I am a convert and entered the CC 17.5 years ago. Never turning back and similar to your story, I'd not ever understood, but once the light went on, after reading 3 books (God knew how to get through to me once I was actually humble and open enough to "listen") I could not jump the Tiber fast enough!
To be catholic Requires that I adopt an artificial division between the OT and NT in which the NT takes interpretive priority and overrides the meaning of the OT at key, prophetic texts. Requires I abandon a Standard, consistent historical grammatical hermeneutics and adopt a Christo-typological interpretation of the Bible. I have to overlook the profound impact Greek Philosophy and allegory had upon Augustine's views of the Bible. I have to ignore the historical reality that premillenism was believed by and taught by the early church up and until Augustine made it unpopular with the publication of his "City of God. Requires that I ignore all grammatical indicators that clearly distinguish between the Jewish people and the nation of Israel and the NT church. I have to believe promises made directly to Jewish Israel of a future salvation and restoration is fulfilled entirely in the NT church. The NT church is the same as the OT "Israel". I have to understand Revelation 20 to be a recapitulation that takes me back to to the beginning of the church age rather than than following naturally and chronologically from the events in Revelation 19. Shalom
I always said that if I ever converted, I would be anything except Catholic. God replied with "hold my beer". I went to college and came out with no ability to deny the truth of the Catholic Church. I hated that it was true, but had to accept it and now have been Catholic for over a decade and am raising 3 Catholic sons.
@@dylan3456 if im being honest, I didn't have to change my mind on that because in those days I was "culturally baptist" but actually more Athiest leaning agnostic when God showed me the Church. So, I didn't even have to have the substitutionary atonement struggle until much later
@@sidneycline3366 I had the same sort of thing happen and was thoroughly convinced the Roman Catholic Church must be the real source of all the deepest theology. Eventually I found out of course that it wasn’t, exactly, when I started digging into what exactly connects us to the events of the New Testament. The fact that atonement is unsettled doctrine with various permitted “theories” didn’t sit well with me. Atonement is kind of the main thing. There was lots of philosophical exploration into the nature of God, of man, of all the varying kinds of graces and bits and bobs to hang on your rear view mirror etc, and of all sorts of phenomena-but precious little to say with any certainty about why the cross. That’s why I’m Lutheran today, despite nearly joining a quite historic monastery in France only a few years ago. I miss the feeling of overwhelming certainty about worldly affairs sometimes, I admit. The beauty of it all was dazzling, and sometimes that made me weep with joy. I had an encounter with American priests headed to Rome, one of whom was laughing and shaking his head in disbelief as he sat with me in a garden at the monastery and told me how God was blessing me. But then I had to really live in the raw disordered world of the 8-5 grind outside cloistered dreamlands and, with a second glance, their faces as I remembered them looked less cherubic, sadder, untouched somehow. It’s hard to explain-especially if you’re living in that sort of certainty about how to look at people, about what to do. My sins for His righteousness. That’s always so much more than anything else I’ve ever prayed for and it’s certainly mine. Can you see how that can sort of grey-out everything else Roman Catholic traditions keep your focus on? Anyway, sorry for the novel. Just felt like putting that down.
@@dylan3456, well, it’s not easy to be a priest and to live that life. It’s a life of self-sacrifice, which is dying and denying oneself for others (which are no other than the brethren of Christ) and trying to transcend the humanity in themselves for a higher and nobler purpose which is divine in nature. For one, the discipline of celibacy is not an easy thing, as it is innate for us humans to have physical partners in our lives. For these reasons, you somehow feel in them that of being “untouched,” sadder,” etc. It’s really an “abnormal” life, you might say, as Jesus’ life was an abnormal one as well, wasn’t it?
He’s being taken for a ride. He’s a nice guy, and they’re all nice guys. So what? They want him to bend the knee like they’ve done because it feels good when people agree with you. I love the big hug fest and flirtations like oh, tell me a little more and maybe I’ll join you ;) Let’s not lose our heads and forget this is about God. There’s a big problem though with this whole approach to knowing God. How does Scott Hahn know God? Did his knowledge about God, evidently recorded in both Nature and Scripture, ascertained by his unhindered intellect, develop? Or does he know God immediately, so to speak, when he prays in the name of Christ? Organic growth is the Roman Catholic understanding of doctrinal development but it isn’t the understanding of revelation. Look, I understand this entirely; it’s an appeal to natural reason. It’s only reasonable that our understanding of anything at all should deepen over time and study across generations-that’s what happens in every other topic as well. But is that the story of a finished work or an ongoing work? What I wonder about is whether you see yourself blurring the line between direct revelation recorded in a completed canon and a developing canon of natural human knowledge of all things.
@@dylan3456 It's funny to see that even when you commend Protestants for something good for the purpose of ecumenism, some of them will still protest against you. What more can you do?
@@dylan3456 Fine. But there's nothing wrong in commending someone for his politeness. Everything you said in response to my first comment was uncalled for. I wasn't trying to bring up a debate. Despite our differences, I think we should learn to commend ourselves from time to time. That was what I was trying to get across.
My wife was methodist for 38 years. 4 years ago she came into the catholic church, after the holy spirit spoke to her. She fought it for 6 yrs, but started researching it, and then started having dreams of Jesus asking her why she was denying his Church. She finally came into the church, and brought me back after I was away from the church 25 plus years. My life has been blessed more than I could have imagined, and I'm the happiest I've ever been. I now do God's work!
quote---I now do God's work! unquote NOPE--You do NOT! You do Satans work!!! FACTS: Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day......(.Saturday) Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (Sunday) Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,(After sunset Saturday) Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week (Sunday) Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, (friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.( Just before sunset Friday) Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, (Sunday) John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day (Friday), in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation (Friday), since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover >>>Where do people go upon death" Grave, heaven or purgatory? FACTS: They are sleeping in the grave until Jesus comes back. ----Revelation 20:4--And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (IN HEAVEN) -----Psalm 115:17----The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence. ---Ecclesiastes 9:10----Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. ---Job --14:10---12-- But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he? 11 As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up: 12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. ------Ecclesiastes 9:5-6---For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. ----Genesis 3:19--In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. ----Psalm 146:4--His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. ----Ecclesiastes 12:7--Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. --James 2:26---For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. --Psalm 6:5---For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? etc, etc. FACTS: The Bible contains no command for Christians to devote Sunday, the first day of the week, to rest and worship. For early Christians, Sunday was a workday like any other. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia states: “It was not until the 4th century that Sunday began to take on sabbath characteristics, when [the pagan Roman emperor] Constantine decreed that certain types of work should not be done on Sunday.” FACTS: About the catholic church: Change the Sabbath" Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174. ----"The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893. ---"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893. ----"Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day? "Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day. "Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday? "Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910. What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change of the Sabbath was effected. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D.
It's obvious that neither you nor your wife are very grounded in the scripture is why you and especially her were so easily convinced to turn to the papacy. The Holy Spirit leads people AWAY from the blood-soaked (inquisition) catholic church, not to it.
@@BloodTar sure what ever maybe study the catholic faith and deep history and cease to be Protestant. It's the true religion Jesus founded upon Peter! look into eucharistic miracles and believe in the one true catholic faith. Godbless
@@empackmanmueller1725 There are *protestants:* _protesters of the catholic church._ Not anymore. Those people died hundreds of years ago. In fact, the only real protestants of today that truly do protest the papacy and its pope on a daily basis is a movement in your cult that calls itself the SSPX. They literally wish death upon anyone following Vatican II. Don't believe me? Go talk to one of its adherents and you'll know what a true protester "protestant" of your cult really is. By the way, there is no such thing as a "eucharist" mentioned anywhere in the rule book, aka, the Bible. Now go do your homework.
As someone who has been investigating and seriously considering catholicism, this show has blown me out of the water. Scott is a gem. Please pray for me that I may come to the truth on this matter.
@@geo.ies93 quote----Listen to Jimmy Akin and other ex-protestants called by Jesus to defend the Holy Mother Church.--unquote I will make one change to that comment. Listen to Jimmy Akin and other ex-protestants called by Satan to defend the Holy Mother Church. Holy Mother Church??? Where is that in the Bible?????? I think when you say Holy Mother Church you mean this:Revelation 17:5-6 KJV and upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. THAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 : Actually, the previous commentators are correct. You have misunderstood that passage in Apocalypse; the one referring to the city of Jerusalem. The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ on Earth.
@@alhilford2345 quote---You have misunderstood that passage in Apocalypse; the one referring to the city of Jerusalem.-unquote THAT IS AN OPINION with NO FACTS----NO scripture. ----quote---The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ on Earth.-- unquote AGAIN, THAT IS AN OPINION with NO FACTS----NO scripture. The followers of Christ are the Body of Christ!!!! The name Catholic Church is NEVER mentioned in the Bible.
As a son, grandson, nephew and cousin of well meaning and faithful Baptist Pastors I was raised in a mostly anti-catholic environment, although my family respected the Christian faith of many Catholics. When I decided to study Catholic teaching I realized that it is deeper, stronger and more beautiful than I thought. I feel Catholic now.
Same! I just was confirmed into the Church on Easter after simply reading. The lies I was fed growing up almost made it easier. Like, “why would I have been lied to about literally EVERYTHING about Catholicism”
Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways! RCC vs BIBLE 2 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. 11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + partake Roman sacraments + believe in roman pontiff + be in roman cult = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity. 16. RCC says Sunday is the day of worship, just becaise Jesus arose on that day. Yet--The HOLY BIBLE says the SEVENTH DAY IS the ONLY day God rested on, blessed and made Holy.--Gen 2:1- 3, Ex 20:8-11. Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a catholic disguising as Christianity deceiving many. **Research it yourself!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 did you even listen to the interview? If your so invested in your heretical views then please by all means go to Catholic truths website and offer to debate him on camera. The problem is that most people who comment things like you have do not actually understand anything that they said. You take things out of context and use it to justify your false worldview. By all means. Go and debate. I pray God works in your life to deliver you from your strife and struggle.
@@Roma-rusk As usual, 99% of Catholics CAN NOT /WILL NOT refute my quotes with scripture. PROVE the scripture WRONG wirth facts--NOT OPINIONS!!! **quote--If your so invested in your heretical views --unquote Really? So quotes from the Holy Bible are heritical???
It is interesting which "sticking points" are the "if it is true, then Catholicism is true and I must be Catholic." I was approaching Catholicism from an historical point of view, that is, which church is closest to the Church Christ established. But, when my mother, who is an ex-Catholic, confronted me, her sticking point was the Eucharist. She said, " if the Eucharist is really Jesus, then I must be Catholic, but it can't be because (insert typical protestant anti-real-presence rhetoric). At that point, the Eucharist became my sticking point, because I had already established that Catholicism fits the historic narrative, at least better than any Protestant church. Well, I had a vision (not a dream in my sleep, but a vision while awake in prayer) that confirmed the Real Presence, as well as Dr. Hahn's excellent proofs and arguments. I never really found the papacy to be a sticking point. As soon as I heard about Peter meaning Rock, I believed. It wasn't an issue. But, I appreciate the variety of sticking points because it keeps the Truth alive and flowing as we work on our walk Home to Rome. Pray for me. I am not yet fully Home and my family is very much against Catholicism. But, I'm on my way!
@@Tsalagi978 indeed, I should have clarified "insert typical evangelical...." I was baptized Catholic as an infant, but raised Evangelical charismatic (Assembly of God).
I think he’s too lukewarm for my Catholic faith! There was a few moments where Hahn has him cornered and the guy over leaped it with to regards to my faith!
@@edwinmendezforlife judgemental attitudes serve no one. He’s struggling against himself and many other factors. This kind of judgemental attitude isn’t good for you brother.
RCC vs BIBLE 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. 11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + 7 sacraments + obedience = salvation). Yet Bible says believe in Jesus to be saved. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity. Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a c--- disguising as Christianity deceiving many. (Do not go beyond what was written? The little saying “do not go beyond what is written,” is found in Paul's argument to convince the Corinthians to be one in Christ (1 Cor 1:10- 4:21).
@@mitchellosmer1293Read the church fathers, read Rome sweet home, look at Catholic answers, go to mass, watch more of these discussions and listen to them with an open mind (there’s a great one on Marian doctrine). You will find the answers you are looking for.
My mom converted from an Anabaptist Mennonite background after reading Rome Sweet Home. She only decided to read it after she got it a second time in the same week from two different people. I converted two years later, after spending a lot of time on Catholic Answers. This will be my eighteenth Easter in the Church. Never heard about the proper tense of Matthew 18:18. I had always puzzled on that phrasing and it makes much more sense to me now.
As a cradle Catholic this was wonderful conversation to listen to. Prayers for all 3 of you. Very much a blessing for me as my husband of 24 years will be received full into the Catholic Church this Saturday during Easter vigil. Prayers ❤️🙏
Any advice for a wife that would like to bring her husband to catholicism ? Praying, time? We got married in the catholic church which was super meaningful for me. How did this happen for you? ❤️
@@r.m5883 very slowly with a lot of praying to Mary. We also were married in the church. He attended mass with me for all our married years. When I retired and we moved I wanted to do more with my new parish. I volunteered to be a Catechist and he told me it was time to join the church officially. I think he liked our new parish too. And the pastor is so wonderful. That always helps. Also during COVID shutdown he became a huge fan of The Chosen and wanted to feel more of the Holy Spirit. Wanted the Eucharist to be part of him. God had the perfect time for him and he was receptive. I’ll be praying for you and your husband.
@@r.m5883 ----The ONLY day GOD called HIS HOLY DAY--Sabbath--seventh day The ONLY DAY GOD rested on--Sabbath--seventh day The ONLY day GOD Blessed--seventh day---Sabbath The ONLY DAY GOD Sanctified! The ONLY day GOD named--Sabbath!!!! --Show to me any other day that God rested on, blessed, gave a name to, sanctified, and called HIS HOLY DAY!!!!-----When YOU take HIS HOLY DAY from Him--that is THEFT!!!
I really admire Cameron for sitting on the hot seat, with such grace and dignity, listening to the answers to questions and still raise respectful objections and share where there is agreement. I am so grateful for my catholic friends who were willing to engage with my arguments when I was a seeker and grateful to have found home in the Catholic church
Dr. Scott Hahn, you are such a blessing to the world, not just because you are Catholic and a good person... its because you make learning about our Church and its history so easy to listen to and understand. That is a rare gift. God Bless.
I’m a charismatic Senior Pastor who is finishing up RCIA right now as an “inquirer.” I call myself a “half-tholic;” Dr. Hahn and Bishop Barron are the primary reasons why. And I def appreciate this channel 🙏 God is good! (Dr. Hahn - I can’t wait to get that Ignatius Old Testament! Thanks for your service to the Body!) ps - as Protestants we have a problem with the Bishop of Rome being referred to as the Vicar of Christ, but MANY Protestant pastors regularly say, “Jesus is the Shepherd of this church and I’m the Under-Shepherd” with no problem at all 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Boniface VIII, Unam sanctam, A.D. 1302: "Therefore, of the one and only Church (there is) one body, one head, not two heads as a monster, namely, Christ and Peter, the Vicar of Christ and the successor of Peter, the Lord Himself saying to Peter: "Feed my sheep" (Jn 21,17). He said "My," and generally, not individually these or those, through which it is understood that He entrusted all to him. If, therefore, the Greeks or others say that they were not entrusted to Peter and his successors, of necessity let them confess that they are not of the sheep of Christ, since the Lord says in John, "to be one flock and one Shepherd" (Jn 10,16)."
Good comment! You seem like a man of good Will! You must become Catholic to save your soul. That’s been the church teaching since the beginning. Protestantism was a demonic heresy
Hey I am interested in your journey to Catholicism because you are a charismatic. I have read many convert stories but there are 'relatively' fewer from the charismatic strand. I find that many charismatics are so experience orientated that the intellectual reasons for Catholicism are less likely to appeal other than a supernatural encounter where the Lord directly speaks to them to convert. What sort of charismatic pastor are you? What are your influences? Are they the Randy Clark, John Wimber type of thing? Have you heard of Ulf Ekman the megachurch charismatic leader who converted to Catholicism?
@@michellea9857 Thanks for your interest & a BIG God bless you to you and yours! So, I agree that Charismatics are a little too influenced by experience (their own or those of preachers they like, etc.) in generally charismatic areas. But, in fundamental Christian theology, i.e. Trinity, Virgin Birth, All-Things-Jesus (sinless, died for us, descended, raised, ascended for us,), need to be baptized, Angles, Demons, etc. etc. etc. I would say that they are def biblically, not experientially, oriented. Nonetheless, I used to work for, preach with, etc. a man by the name of Norvel Hayes. He was a pure-as-they-come, sincere man who genuinely walked with God. Regardless of what you may or may not think of him, his best friend for 35 years was Kenneth E. Hagin. So, I have a Word of Faith-Charismatic background but Norvel Hayes, Hagin, and def myself really don't associate with what most of the silliness that many people associate with the WOF "camp." I know of Wimber but don't really know much of anything about him. Also, I am a strong adherent of preterism, as most through Church history have been. I'm a friend of Dr. Lynn Hiles a strong charismatic preterist preacher today and another genuine, humble man of God. And yes, I am familiar with Ulf Eckman's story. I find it a wonderful and inspiring story! That's all I got for now...God bless!
@@riverjao thank you that is great to get a flavour of where God has led you, I would also check out Barbara Heil and also the late Rev Alex Jones if you haven’t heard of them also. My time spent in protestant churches particularly in charismatic evangelical churches has really enriched me. I have learnt by the grace of God to encounter Him at a Traditional Latin Mass and Eastern rite liturgies, although theologically they are very different to the spontaneous charismatic aspect for me they feed into each other. I still have Hagin books and still dip into them for inspiration, personally I feel a lot of people caricature some of the WOF people and actually there is a lot of good things to glean about healing and financial provision from these people if you can spit out some of the excesses. Blessings in Jesus through the intercession of His mother!
Scott Hahn has such a way to describe teachings of the church in always using typology. Whether it’s the papacy, Marian dogma, Eucharist, or Jesus himself. Just purely incredible. A blessing and a true theological genius
I would strongly encourage you to find books and UA-cam videos on Peter Kreeft, he is a catholic philosopher, poet, story teller that has some of most beautiful ways of describing Catholicism and its beauty! Particularly on the Eucharist
Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways! RCC vs BIBLE 2 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. 11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + partake Roman sacraments + believe in roman pontiff + be in roman cult = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity. 16. RCC says Sunday is the day of worship, just becaise Jesus arose on that day. Yet--The HOLY BIBLE says the SEVENTH DAY IS the ONLY day God rested on, blessed and made Holy.--Gen 2:1- 3, Ex 20:8-11. Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a catholic disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
As a protestant minister of an evangelical church, I absolutely love this dialogue! I have a degree in patristics and absolutely love the church fathers… I love the unity and the dialogue of this conversation. I love that we can hold to mere Christianity with Christ as the head and our unity is in Christ! I am so blessed and filled with joy to call my brothers and sisters in the Roman Catholic Church truly my brothers and sisters in Christ! Thank you Matt and thank you Cameron! I have enjoyed you both for so many years now.
I have followed Scott Hahn and Kimberly since they swam across the Tiber and I couldn't help but feel convicted of their holiness/saintliness. God be praised and glorified.
Dr. Hahn’s last words to Cameron described my journey into the Church. Each doctrine had to be examined. As I accepted one then next would be a problem I would have to work through. For example, I would say to myself I’m ok with what the Church teaches except for Mary… I would study & pray about the doctrines & dogmas on Mary until I finally realized the truth & accepted it. Then the next doctrine would come up…I’m ok with the teachings of the Church except for the papacy…etc. etc. Until all my objections were gone. I entered into RCIA after that. I came home 2014 & have never regretted it! 😁👍🙏❤️
----The ONLY day GOD called HIS HOLY DAY--Sabbath--seventh day The ONLY DAY GOD rested on--Sabbath--seventh day The ONLY day GOD Blessed--seventh day---Sabbath The ONLY DAY GOD Sanctified! The ONLY day GOD named--Sabbath!!!! --Show to me any other day that God rested on, blessed, gave a name to, sanctified, and called HIS HOLY DAY!!!!-----When YOU take HIS HOLY DAY from Him--that is THEFT!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 get out of here with that false Church the 7 day Adventist led by a woman which St Paul said woman shouldn’t teach in the 1800’s 1st Timothy : 2 : 12 - For I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to be in authority over a man, but to be in silence. Why don’t you listen to the Catholic Bible and the Church that Jesus Christ started ?
@@johnvitelli3862! EGW NEVER Preached to anyone!!! quote---Why don’t you listen to the Catholic Bible and the Church that Jesus Christ started ?--unquote LOL--ROFL---When was the FIRST time that the name Catholic was written??? IGNATIUS of ANTIOCH in 110 AD!!!!! FACT!! FACT!!!!! The name CATHOLIC is NOT in the Holy Bible!!! Fact!!! Jesus NEVER worshiped on Sunday, nor did He ever teach it!!!! Fact!!! Jesus NEVER taught Mary or anyone to pray to beads!!! Fact!!! Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on MY HOLY DAY, And call the Sabbath a delight, The holy day of the LORD honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words, ****The ONLY day God RESTED ON!!! The ONLY day God BLESSED!!! The ONLY day God SANCTIFIED!!! The ONLY day God named!!!!! The ONLY day God Called HIS HOLY DAY!!! ***FACT!!! ******Although Peter recognized himself as an apostle (see, e.g., 1 Pet. 1:1; 2 Pet. 1:1), he never claimed a superior title, rank, or privilege over the other apostles. He even referred to himself as a “fellow elder” (1 Pet. 5:1) and as “a bond-servant” of Christ (2 Pet. 1:1). Far from claiming honor and homage for himself, he soberly warns his fellow elders to guard against lording it over those under their pastoral care (1 Pet. 5:3). The only glory he claimed for himself was that which is shared by all believers and which is yet “to be revealed, … when the Chief Shepherd appears” (vv. 1, 4). ***FACT!! Genesis 4 King James Version 4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. Matthew 1:25 but did not have sexual relations with her until she gave birth to a son. And he named him Jesus. (And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.) SAME terminology used to descriobe the realtionship between Adam and Eve --(Knew her) FACT!!! Isaiah 8:20 To the teaching and to the testimony! If they will not speak according to this word, it is because they have no light. FACT!!! Tradition holds that the first Gentile church was founded in Antioch, Acts 11:20-21, where it is recorded that the disciples of Jesus Christ were first called Christians (Acts 11:26). It was from Antioch that St. Paul started on his missionary journeys. ACTS-written between 70 Ad--90 AD--- CHRISTIANS--NOT CATHOLIC!!!!! At least 40 years AFTER Christ!!!!------ *****When was the first Christian church built? The earliest archeologically identified Christian church is a house church (domus ecclesiae), the Dura-Europos church, founded between 233 and 256. In the second half of the 3rd century AD, the first purpose-built halls for Christian worship (aula ecclesiae) began to be constructed. CHRISTIAN--NOT CATHOLIC!!!!! Built between 293 and 303, the building pre-dates the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem, Israel, and the Church of the Nativity, Bethlehem, West Bank, both of which were constructed in the late 320s. The church is the first purpose-built Christian church discovered from the period before Christianity found favour with the Roman imperial governmen*****The oldest known purpose-built Christian church in the world is in Aqaba, Jordan. t. It even pre-dates the greatest of all the Roman anti-Christian persecutions, that of Diocletian in 303-313. The church, the ruins of which were excavated in 1998, is in the form of an east-west oriented basicila, with apse and aisles. It also had a narthex and chancel. Excavation has unearthed walls up to 4.5m 14ft 9in high. During its first phase the church would have held about 60 worshipers; it was later extended to hold about 100. The building appears to have been abandoned during the presecution of 303-311, then refurbished between 313 and 330. It was destroyed by an earthquake in 363. CHRISTIAN--NOT CATHOLIC *** Built between 293 and 303, --CHRISTIAN--NOT CATHOLIC!!!!!!
Thus was a fantastic conversation. I know what Cameron is going through. I’ve been there. I was a Presbyterian and had Catholic friends. One of them put Rome Sweet Home in my hands. Two years later I became Catholic. That was 19 years ago! I love listening to Dr. Hahn. He is such an immense treasure to the Catholic Church.
CLAIMS of the RCC 1. Catholics claim CHURCH refers to Roman Catholic Church. BIBLE says CHURCH refers to all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1, Mat 16:18. HISTORY tells us Roman Church was just one local Church a member of the Pentarchy. 2. Catholics claim Roman Church was the CHURCH CHRIST founded (First Church) or one true church. BIBLE says First Local Church was Jerusalem Church. Acts 2. Not Roman Catholic Church. 3. Catholics claim there is only One Church. BIBLE mentions both CHURCH and Churches. “CHURCH” refers to the Body of Christ Eph 5:30, Col 1:18 consisting of all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1 Mat 16:18. “Churches” refers to local churches Acts 9:31, Acts 15:41 and believers Romans 16:5, 1 Cor 16:19, 4. Catholics claim to be the first believers. BIBLE says first believers were Jewish Christians. Acts 2, Acts 11:26, NOT roman catholics. 5. Catholics claim Pope is the head of the CHURCH. BIBLE says JESUS is the HEAD OF THE CHURCH. Eph 1:22, Eph 5:23, Col 1:18. 6. Catholics claim outside Roman Church there is NO SALVATION. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 7. Catholics claim submit to Roman Pontiff to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 8. Catholics claim devote to Mary to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 9. . BIBLE says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 10. Catholics claim Roman Church inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16 or John 20 or John 21. 11. Catholics claim Roman pontiff inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16. 12. Catholics claim bishop of ROME = the pope. BIBLE does not say that. 13. Catholics claim there is an office of bishop of bishops/universal bishop/pope. BIBLE does not speak of such an office. History tells us the first bishop of bishops came in AD590-600s. 14. Roman Church has all the false unbiblical clergies - Roman priests, roman cardinals, roman pontiff, monks, nuns, friars, … BIBLE mentions only pastors, teachers, evangelists, prophets, apostles, deacons, bishop, elders. Titus 1:5, Eph 4:11, 1 Tim 3. 15. Roman Church claim its doctrines come from traditions of Apostles. BUT 95% of roman doctrines are Not from traditions of Jesus or Apostles or Scriptures; neither practised by the Church of the Bible.
@@mitchellosmer1293 1. You are equating the Catholic Church with the Western Patriarchate, which is innacurate 2. We don't believe Rome is the first local Church in a literal sense as in literal age 3. Catholic believe in a single visible Universal Church and in multiple Local Churches 4. Jewish christians weren't a denomination appart from the rest of the Early Church. There is continuity between the first christians and us 5. We claim the Pope is the visible Head of the Church as a delegate of Jesus, this doesn't contradict that Jesus is the ultimate Head of the Church 6. The Church is the Body of Christ, outside His Body there is no salvation 7. Submitt to the Roman Pontiff as in obeying Jesus who set him over us as our sheepherd 8. Praying the rosary isn't necessary for salvation in catholicism 9. Okay? And what is your point? 10. 11. 12. Whether Peter was suceeded by the Roman Bishop is a matter of history and Tradition, not of Scripture 13. We don't believe the Pope is an universal Bishop 14. Monks and nuns aren't clergy. Cardinals are just people advising the Pope and electing him. The essential hierarchy of the Church is Pope-Bishop-Priest 15. I am curious about how you came to that very interesting percentage
@@PabloVelasco-hr3ko quote---I pray the Holy Spirit Guides you to the right Church.. unquote Oh, but He has. One that FOLLOWS Christ and NOT the lies and deceit of Satan.
Dr. Hahn’s attentiveness and sincere interest in just listening is admirable. The guy could string a list a mile long of arguments but his first move is to just listen. Awesome. What a gift for Cameron to have access to all these elite resources; Dr. Hahn, Dr. Ortland, Jimmy Akin, Trent Horn, Suan Sona…he should record all conversations so everyone can benefit. I absolutely love Dr. Hahn, just for the record…awesome.
Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways! RCC vs BIBLE 2 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. 11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + partake Roman sacraments + believe in roman pontiff + be in roman cult = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity. 16. RCC says Sunday is the day of worship, just becaise Jesus arose on that day. Yet-The HOLY BIBLE says the SEVENTH DAY IS the ONLY day God rested on, blessed and made Holy.--Gen 2:1 3, Ex 20:8-11. Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a catholic disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
@@SUPERHEAVYBOOSTER--- All I read is an OPINION!!! PROVE IT with scripture!!! Let's start with these: Catholics claim Sunday is a holy day, to worship on. QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD RESTED on the First day of the week. ---QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD BLESSED the First day of the week. --QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD SANCTIFIED (MADE HOLY, hallowed) the First day of the week. ---QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD NAMED the First day of the week. --QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD DECLARES the First day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY.
@@SUPERHEAVYBOOSTER --Obviously you have never read the Bible. It is the ONLY writings inspired by God. EVERY prophesy given in the Bible has been 100% accurate, to this day. History has proven it!!!!
@YAJUN YUAN “Moreover, we have biblical evidence-John 1:42-that also points to Jesus using Aramaic in the naming of Peter: “[Andrew] brought [Peter] to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, ‘So you are Simon the son of John? You shall be called Cephas’” (which means Peter). The name Cephas is an anglicized form of the Aramaic Kepha, which means simply “rock.” There would have been no “small rock” to be found in Jesus’ original statement to Peter. Even well-respected Protestant scholars will agree on this point. Baptist scholar D. A. Carson, warites, in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: [T]he underlying Aramaic is in this case unquestionable; and most probably kepha was used in both clauses (“you are kepha” and “on this kepha”), since the word was used both for a name and for a “rock.” The Peshitta (written in Syriac, a language cognate with a dialect of Aramaic) makes no distinction between the words in the two clauses.” www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/peter-the-rock
About the catholic church: Change the Sabbath" Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174. ----"The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893. ---"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893. ----"Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day? "Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day. "Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday? "Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910. What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change of the Sabbath was effected. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D. FACTS: Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day......(.Saturday) Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (Sunday) Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,(After sunset Saturday) Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week (Sunday) Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, (friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.( Just before sunset Friday) Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, (Sunday) John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day (Friday), in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation (Friday), since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover >>> Revelation 20:14 Then death and Hades [the realm of the dead] (Grave) were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire [the eternal separation from God]. DEATH!!!! FACTS: I will ask these questions again which NO ONE can answer. And I know you will NOT!!! ---Where in the Holy Bible does God say He rested on the first day of the week to make that day special?? ----Where in the Holy Bible does God say He BLESSED the first day of the week to make that day special?? ----Where in the Holy Bible does God say He SANCTIFIED the first day of the week to make that day special?? ---Where in the Holy Bible does God say He Gave a name to the first day of the week to make that day special?? ---Where in the Holy Bible does God say He DECLARES the first day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??
For my part I feel incredibly fortunate to be a fly on the wall during Cameron's explorations/excavations into Catholicism. It is such a personal journey for most of us and the fact that he is "bringing us along" as it were, is a privilege that we truly don't deserve.
CLAIMS of the RCC 1. Catholics claim CHURCH refers to Roman Catholic Church. BIBLE says CHURCH refers to all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1, Mat 16:18. HISTORY tells us Roman Church was just one local Church a member of the Pentarchy. 2. Catholics claim Roman Church was the CHURCH CHRIST founded (First Church) or one true church. BIBLE says First Local Church was Jerusalem Church. Acts 2. Not Roman Catholic Church. 3. Catholics claim there is only One Church. BIBLE mentions both CHURCH and Churches. “CHURCH” refers to the Body of Christ Eph 5:30, Col 1:18 consisting of all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1 Mat 16:18. “Churches” refers to local churches Acts 9:31, Acts 15:41 and believers Romans 16:5, 1 Cor 16:19, 4. Catholics claim to be the first believers. BIBLE says first believers were Jewish Christians. Acts 2, Acts 11:26, NOT roman catholics. 5. Catholics claim Pope is the head of the CHURCH. BIBLE says JESUS is the HEAD OF THE CHURCH. Eph 1:22, Eph 5:23, Col 1:18. 6. Catholics claim outside Roman Church there is NO SALVATION. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 7. Catholics claim submit to Roman Pontiff to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 8. Catholics claim devote to Mary to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11. 9. . BIBLE says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 10. Catholics claim Roman Church inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16 or John 20 or John 21. 11. Catholics claim Roman pontiff inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16. 12. Catholics claim bishop of ROME = the pope. BIBLE does not say that. 13. Catholics claim there is an office of bishop of bishops/universal bishop/pope. BIBLE does not speak of such an office. History tells us the first bishop of bishops came in AD590-600s. 14. Roman Church has all the false unbiblical clergies - Roman priests, roman cardinals, roman pontiff, monks, nuns, friars, … BIBLE mentions only pastors, teachers, evangelists, prophets, apostles, deacons, bishop, elders. Titus 1:5, Eph 4:11, 1 Tim 3. 15. Roman Church claim its doctrines come from traditions of Apostles. BUT 95% of roman doctrines are Not from traditions of Jesus or Apostles or Scriptures; neither practised by the Church of the Bible.
As has already been noted: this was the best discussion. I am on a similar journey as Cameron, though I'm near 100% so I'll be signing up for RCIA after Easter. But! Was reading along and found this to just add the mix regarding the already convincing evidence (/truth) that is the papacy. I'd never really noted the significance before in Acts 5:12-15: "Many signs and wonders were done among the people at the hands of the apostles. They were all together in Solomon’s portico. None of the others dared to join them, but the people esteemed them. Yet more than ever, believers in the Lord, great numbers of men and women, were added to them. Thus they even carried the sick out into the streets and laid them on cots and mats so that when Peter came by, at least his shadow might fall on one or another of them." It could have said one of the apostles' shadows. But PETER is the one that had primacy. And the people even recognized that at the time. Wow.
Yes, great point! I just contacted RCIA after discerning Catholicism for nearly 3 years. I'll be joining the group of newly confirmed Catholics for their mystagogy after Easter. Then will be a break for summer but I'll join the new RCIA group in September. I could make a profession of faith and go through this process more quickly but I want the whole experience. I'm excited to attend the Easter Vigil this Saturday and see what I have to look forward to next Easter when I'm confirmed. May God bless you on your journey.
I will say this. Not all RCIA programs are good. Don't lose heart if you end up with a person teaching heretical things. Gently bring it to their attention after the class with as a few witnesses as possible. If they change their mind good and if not you can correct them in the more public way of the class (if they persist in teaching falsehoods). Just make sure to have citations for the corrections.
Cameron is so blessed to have access to these amazing apologists- I feel for those who have to wrestle with these questions on their own, without such phone numbers to get accurate answers. I hope Cameron continues to record his process so he can share with people in the same situation. Dr. Scott Hahn has such a gift from God!
Half way thru and the best part is when Scott said the other guy talks in sound bites..his fragile reality is falling apart so he broke and his doubts fractured into a whole new identity and he now has DID.. His friend is that other identity
Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways! RCC vs BIBLE 2 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. 11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + partake Roman sacraments + believe in roman pontiff + be in roman cult = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16. 13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity. 16. RCC says Sunday is the day of worship, just becaise Jesus arose on that day. Yet-The HOLY BIBLE says the SEVENTH DAY IS the ONLY day God rested on, blessed and made Holy.--Gen 2:1 3, Ex 20:8-11. Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a catholic disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
@@JJ-og2jq a·pol·o·get·ics /əˌpäləˈjediks/ Learn to pronounce noun reasoned arguments or writings in justification of something, typically a theory or religious doctrine. quote--I'm obviously not going to dignify this with an answer,--unquote Can't answer ??? Theory--but NOT facts.
@@JJ-og2jq quote-- I'm obviously not going to dignify this with an answer, do some research into apologetics---unquote--- a·pol·o·get·ics /əˌpäləˈjediks/ noun reasoned arguments or writings in justification of something, typically a theory or religious doctrine. ----THEORY--NOT FACTS *****
I have a list of people, for whom I pray daily that they will become Catholic. Cameron has been on that list for about a year. God bless you, Cameron, on your journey.
Catholics like you, who rather than attack or mock Protestants for their ignorance or spiritual blindness instead show grace, love, and a desire for them to reach the Church, are what helped me realize that there is no way Catholicism is a satanic cult unless it's the worst one ever because I certainly see fruit among them!!! You are doing so many blessings by interceding for others the way you do. I love Christ's church and seeing Him reflected, it just further reaffirms my awe and reverence for the mysteries of God.
@@Christ-Is-King_ It would be a grave mistake for us to do so. The Church has officially and irrevocably recognized in Vatican II that all followers of Christ out of the Visible Church (through no fault of their own) are "Separated Brethren" and we are to talk with them about our faith with gentleness and respect (as the Bible recommends!) as fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, with hope to bring unity to Christ's body (as Christ Himself wished us to be!) So, God willing, may all other interactions be like so as well! May God illuminate my brothers and sisters in these truths.
Doctor Hahn is such a self-effacing fatherly spiritual companion, helping and responding with wise and instructive information after listening patiently and sensitively while Matt graciously facilitates with angelic hospitality and enthusiasm bridled with patience.
Brant Pitre's explanation of the Jewish roots of the Papacy is excellent. He shows how the keys given to Peter do not just contain royal authority as steward of the Kingdom but a priestly authority as well. The keys to the temple in Jerusalem were kept on the rock that the temple(church) was built on.
Catholic Encyclopedia: The Pope: "The expressions binding and loosing here employed are derived from the current terminology of the Rabbinic schools. A doctor who declared a thing to be prohibited by the law was said to bind, for thereby he imposed an obligation on the conscience. He who declared it to be lawful was said to loose." ------ Binding and loosing is originally a Jewish Mishnaic phrase also mentioned in the New Testament, as well as in the Targum. In usage, to bind and to loose simply means to forbid by an indisputable authority and to permit by an indisputable authority. ----One passage helps us immensely in clarifying what is meant in this text. For the same pair of Greek words (δέω and λύω) used in Revelation 20 for the concept of binding and loosing, respectively, are used by the Lord to describe church discipline in the Gospel of Matthew. In Matthew 18:18, Jesus says, “I tell you the truth, whatever you shall bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.” Jesus taught us that church authorities can prohibit or permit certain types of behavior. In other words, on the one hand the elders of the church can hold unrepentant church members to account by "binding" them and not allowing them certain privileges of their membership. For instance, a man in an adulterous relationship could be forbidden to participate in the Lord's Supper while the church holds him accountable and seeks his repentance. Then on the other hand, if this man were to later repent and show appropriate fruits of repentance, the elders could at the proper time forgive him and "loose" him from the consequences of his sin by allowing him to return to the Lord's Table. So to "bind" someone is to prevent them from exercising a right they would normally have, and to "loose" a person is to permit them to exercise their natural behavior. >>>Jesus gave Peter “the keys of the kingdom of heaven,” not the keys to heaven.1 A key was a badge of authority ( Luke 11:52 ), and then as now was used to open doors. Peter used the keys Christ gave him to open the door to the Jews on the Day of Pentecost ( Acts 2 ), to the Samaritans after the preaching of Philip ( Acts 8:14-17 ), and to the Gentiles after the Lord had sent him a vision and an appeal from Cornelius ( Acts 10 ). The concept of “binding and loosing” found in Matthew 16:19 and Matthew 18:18 was commonly used among the Jewish people in relation to the authority of the rabbis to forbid and permit certain practices. Jesus gave Peter and the apostles authority over both the doctrine and practices of the first-century church. Through the leading of the Holy Spirit, they would be given wisdom to know what to forbid and what to permit.
My Catholic faith was strengthened within this conversation (still have a lot of woah in the faith). Thanks all you three and Welcome home in advance Cameron!
Wow! This guy is a super bright young man! I’ve come to except that being overly bright is not a burden I walk through life with! I was confirmed March 5th 2022! I have absolutely fallen in love with Jesus’s Church! I’ve been a Protestant for 20+ years, and it’s taking me that long to cross the Tiber. Prayers that this man can find what I found! Keith Nester to Scott Hahn, to Steve Ray to Pat Madrid! And to my good friend Dawn through every day conversations, planting the seeds. My list could go on and on… I’d really like to see how this turns out. Happy Easter Brothers and Sisters
Just remember it’s Christ’s Church not Pope Francis’. The Holy Spirit leads and works for good through the Office of Peter. We must pray for the Pope & always view him with charity. ✝️🙏❤️✝️
I am an inquirer and relate to Cameron on many different planes. I went to my first EO Divine Liturgy on Christmas in ‘22, then my first Holy Mass this past Holy Thursday and then a Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy on Pascha. I grew up Charismatic and went off the deep end into New Age and have watched many of my friends deconstruct faith out of their life completely. I came back to the Lord in 2017 and now find myself dissatisfied in the Protestant church and longing to partake in the Eucharist. This podcast alone has given me so much to think about and answered so many questions and concerns I’ve had about becoming Catholic and the debate in my head over Catholic vs Orthodox. Thank you Matt for hosting this! Pretty sure this helped me decide to become Catholic.
I do really like Cameron’s humility. I’ve watched him do some discussions and he is very charitable. I can relate to him with having to do research because it’s a huge decision and ultimately your soul is at stake. I was received into the Catholic church this past Saturday at the Easter Vigil. It was a beautiful special moment. I’m actually glad you’re doing your research because I have faith that you will get to the right conclusion. Whatever that is for you.
Cameron, while I have great appreciation for the inquisitive nature of the journey you are on, don’t get too caught up in your own personal numbers, methods and metrics. Faith can be discerned, but not analyzed, nor measured, at least not to the satisfaction of a mere mortal, like you and I. “Blessed is he who has not seen, but believes.”
Dr. Hahn just has an amazing way with words. Just so fluid, concise, smooth, and charming. I personally think he’s a better speaker than writer! Thank the Lord for the work that this man has done for the church.
Dr Hahn is such an elegant, humble and eloquent way of expressing himself that is a pleasure listening to him. The Spirit has greatly blessed the Church by guiding him home
And that’s what a masterclass from a true theological heavyweight looks like. So winsome! And honestly, kudos to Cameron for his intellectual and spiritual integrity and honesty. This whole conversation was a delight to listen to!
Thank you Matt! Wonderful interview! I admire you all. You for being a devout catholic. Mr. Hahn for being a devout catholic and for opening our eyes. I really think that you will be declared a Saint one day. Cameron, I admire your humility. Come home.... you are only a few steps away.
Sigh. Dr. Hahn explains things so wonderfully (I was going to say beautifully but it’s more than that), I cry out of gratitude that I’m part of this Church. Ever since I’ve started watching Pints, I feel like I get hit with shockwaves of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Thank you for bringing such AMAZING speakers and honest seekers. Prayers for and blessings to all of you!
Dr Hahn, it is a great blessing for us that you do not speak in sound bytes but instead give exhaustive, well researched and profound explanations on matters of the Faith. It's like taking a class on theology. We learn so much more about our Catholic Faith which means our knowlegde of the Lord is deepened and therefore our love for God deepens as well. Please rest assured that you are doing invaluable service for Our Lord and His Church.
Beautiful! Thank you, Lord, for bringing Cameron along this journey, and letting us all watch and pray for him as he goes. And Cameron, keep walking along this road with Jesus! From the cross, Jesus gave you a mother: and she is Mary herself, and she is also the Church herself. You are not an orphan. You have a home, and it has rules for structure and good food for your life. So keep walking along this road, and know that God is running to meet you!
Wow! This discussion just made me feel so proud, so joyful and so confident to be a Catholic following the Church established by Jesus. Dr. Scott Hahn, once again you articulated all your points so well, with confidence, humility, without being forceful or condescending. The way you evangelize is a true example to me. Thank you for all that you do for our faith 🙏🏻
I found Cameron’s slip in 46:55 hilarious! I can’t imagine how much the Saints in Heaven rejoice when someone converts if seeing someone I don’t know being so close to the Truth gives me so much joy.
It's actually around the 46:45 mark, but, yes, it's a great slip of the tongue. I like that Dr. Hahn's eyebrows go up when he hears the mistake and then Cameron corrects himself. This tells me that he is much closer, whether it be consciously or subconsciously, to conversion than we may think. The Holy Spirit is at work. I just subscribed to his channel to watch the hammer drop.
Thank you Dr Hahn, you are such a blessing to the Catholic faith. I've been watching Journey thru Lent over and over again. Please have some more programs we can watch.
Check out the St. Paul Center. It is Scott Hahn’s ministerial organization. Lots of books, video series on the Bible in Catholicism, and more. He is one of my go-to guys for Catholicism! Another is Dr. David Anders who has a show on EWTN, Called to Communion with David Anders. He is also a convert to Catholicism and brilliant!
I adore listening to Dr. Hahn speak. His explanation, especially as a new convert myself (thanks be to God!), makes the Catholic Church so much easier to understand, while also giving me an ability to appreciate the complexity and continuity within the Church. Absolutely love him.
That boy Cameron finna be Catholic in the next few months FOR SURE!! Scott Hahn is one of the greatest instruments of the Catholic faith. Praise be to God ❤️🙏🏻
@@Wgaither1 - welcome ‘home’ as in ‘dwelling place of the Lord’! And a feeling of peace and love with Christ! Home is the place you go back to with family. We have a loving family in Saints, angels, Jesus and fellow living brothers and sisters in Christ! God bless you in your faith and understanding!
Cameron's method of analysis is very intriguing, as someone who returned to the Church after studying physics. However, I'm kind of hoping it ends up at exactly 50%. Praying for him!
This was awesome. I was raised in the Lutheran Church (LCMS) and converted to Catholicism in 1983 at the age of 22. Was a path much like the one Toothless draws in the sand in How To Train Your Dragon :-)
This is amazing. Some (rough) notes I made: The Davidic line is like the Old Testament version of the papacy. It starts with David, then over time there are twelve head leaders, but one is the prime leader. There are twelve leaders Solomon appoints, there are twelve leaders Jesus appoints. God loves family, He himself being the head of the Holy Trinity, Jesus being part of the trinity of the supernatural, and the holy family (with Mary and Joseph) in the natural. Christ is the connerstone, Peter is the rock, the apostles also are rocks but to a lesser degree than Peter, and we all are stones of the holy temple. You know a man by his fruits, you do not know the church by the faith of a man, but the Saints point to the faith of the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith. Bad popes? Look at Peter, he denied Christ three times, look at the Davidic line Jesus comes from, there was all kinds of sin in that line. Not to say having bad popes is no big deal, but it is not an argument against the whole of the Catholic faith. "Look not upon our sins but on the faith of Your Church". Isaiah 22= Mathew 16. Strong connection.
quote-- Peter is the rock, the apostles also are rocks - unquote quote the Bible that tells of anyone saying Peter is THE ROCK!!! -----quote the Bible that says the apostles are are also rockes. >>>quote---Jesus being part of the trinity of the supernatural, and the holy family (with Mary and Joseph). unquote Quote the Bible that places Mary and or Joseph in the Godhead. ----quote--- one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith. unquote Quote that term from the Bible!!! ----quote-- Mathew 16--unquote Why do insist on taking that out of context?? Read verses 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist*: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Jesus asked them a question which Peter was able to answer due to the revelation to him by GOD!!! verse 20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. ----
I left Catholicism for a time and “ explored” other branches of Christianity but there was a drawing back to the Church Christ founded Jesus will never leave you. Not forcing you but in love correcting you back to the Fold
For 1 hour each morning I use several parts of Hallow. Daily Gospel, Daily Saint, Sunday Homilies by Bishop Baron & Father Mike, music, the rosary ,daily reflections by Jeff Cavins,morning psalms read by Bishop Barron.
I’m watching this on the first Sunday of Advent 2022, shortly after Cameron announced he is studying to enter the Roman Catholic Church. Truly a blessing! God guide and protect Cameron and his family!
Bayesian analysis. Wow. I had to look it up. I had to thank the Lord that it was His decision to make me a heart person, and I didn’t come to faith by questions of intellectual points. But I also had to thank Him that He decided Cameron should be such a (deeply humble) head person so the rest of us could be strengthened by just how rational God is. It’s just glory all around, which is very good for me, a heart person. Thank you, Cameron, Scott, Matt, Trent, Jimmy, and all the others working on this beautiful project! I love the way God made you so fearfully and wonderfully.
thank you for giving light on the connection of popes to how Jesus prayed for Peter Dr. Scott Hahn. Thank you Matt for having him on this show. Amazing how God works in Cameron's life ~ sweeeeet Jesus! ❤
Thank you Matt and Scott for the truly valuable and persuasive discourse on Catholicism and the Papacy! This was very enlightening and helps me to know how to form my own arguments when confronting those from other religions who start to “argue” with me regarding Catholicism!
Scott Hahn is like taking a sip from a fire hydrant as I think I’ve heard him mention his family and student describe him as. The look on their faces when he stops talking is exactly what my face looks like. What a gems we have in Scott and Kimberly Hahn.
This has to be one of your best episodes Matt!! Dr Hahn is incredibly bless to have so much wisdom and knowledge and how gently and tenderly he responded to all the objections, you gotta bring him back!!! Cameron’s time will come that the Holy Spirit will reveal to him the truth bc we don’t follow man, we follow Christ and the church He founded, God bless you all! 🙏🏼🙌🏻❤️
Cameron’s shirt is just so good. It’s soft, yet bold and abrasive in its truth. I can imagine that upsetting people in a silent way. Reminiscent of the slick slogans on tshirts of our generation that say “no one cares”. It kicks people back a bit and at least in my friend group, that statement is pretty radical and ruffles a lot of feathers.
Cameron - I love love love how you only interject when necessary. That is a great trait as an interviewer. In other words, you make the interview about the interviewee and not the interviewer. Kudos to you for thus.
Regarding doctrine often not being formally defined until there is a controversy, that's true of many disputes even outside of religion. Law is that way. Laws don't get created until there is a problem to solve. Say it's a law against something. It doesn't mean that the behavior in question wasn't wrong before the law. It doesn't mean the behavior in question wasn't universally recognized as wrong before the law was made. It just means that no one saw a need to define the issue into law until there was a controversy or issue surrounding it.
I was born Catholic and went to Catholic school and I questioned if the Catholic Church was the one true church. After listening to Scott and others like him on the C.D’s I realize I was so lucky to be baptized in the one true church. Now I am looking at the traditional Latin masses and the S.S.P.X church.
I haven't listened to the episode yet, but I'm here to say that I love your show and I usually listen to the interviews while I'm cooking and eating breakfast - which is the best time of the day, imo.
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When you get a chance please fix the title. We don't need any more excuses to be anti catholic.
It's conversation
This link doesn't work for me!
which US state is that behind your head???
@@nosuchthing8 title is quite irenic really
are there any more rosaries?
I fought Catholicism for 56 years, once God gave me the grace to understand it (and He had to be persistent), I somehow knew I was going to be Catholic a year before I made the decision, trying to fight it the whole time. 4 years ago this Easter, I came into the Church and have NEVER been more fulfilled. Thank you Jesus!
Welcome home.
Welcome home ❤️
What did you learn about Roman Catholic teaching after 56 years of study that changed your mind specifically about substitutionary atonement?
Welcome Home. I am a convert and entered the CC 17.5 years ago. Never turning back and similar to your story, I'd not ever understood, but once the light went on, after reading 3 books (God knew how to get through to me once I was actually humble and open enough to "listen") I could not jump the Tiber fast enough!
To be catholic
Requires that I adopt an artificial division between the OT and NT in which the NT takes interpretive priority and overrides the meaning of the OT at key, prophetic texts.
Requires I abandon a Standard, consistent historical grammatical hermeneutics and adopt a Christo-typological interpretation of the Bible.
I have to overlook the profound impact Greek Philosophy and allegory had upon Augustine's views of the Bible.
I have to ignore the historical reality that premillenism was believed by and taught by the early church up and until Augustine made it unpopular with the publication of his "City of God.
Requires that I ignore all grammatical indicators that clearly distinguish between the Jewish people and the nation of Israel and the NT church.
I have to believe promises made directly to Jewish Israel of a future salvation and restoration is fulfilled entirely in the NT church.
The NT church is the same as the OT "Israel".
I have to understand Revelation 20 to be a recapitulation that takes me back to to the beginning of the church age rather than than following naturally and chronologically from the events in Revelation 19.
Shalom
I always said that if I ever converted, I would be anything except Catholic. God replied with "hold my beer". I went to college and came out with no ability to deny the truth of the Catholic Church. I hated that it was true, but had to accept it and now have been Catholic for over a decade and am raising 3 Catholic sons.
What did you learn that made you change your mind about substitutionary atonement?
God bless you and your family
@@dylan3456 if im being honest, I didn't have to change my mind on that because in those days I was "culturally baptist" but actually more Athiest leaning agnostic when God showed me the Church. So, I didn't even have to have the substitutionary atonement struggle until much later
@@sidneycline3366
I had the same sort of thing happen and was thoroughly convinced the Roman Catholic Church must be the real source of all the deepest theology. Eventually I found out of course that it wasn’t, exactly, when I started digging into what exactly connects us to the events of the New Testament.
The fact that atonement is unsettled doctrine with various permitted “theories” didn’t sit well with me. Atonement is kind of the main thing. There was lots of philosophical exploration into the nature of God, of man, of all the varying kinds of graces and bits and bobs to hang on your rear view mirror etc, and of all sorts of phenomena-but precious little to say with any certainty about why the cross. That’s why I’m Lutheran today, despite nearly joining a quite historic monastery in France only a few years ago.
I miss the feeling of overwhelming certainty about worldly affairs sometimes, I admit. The beauty of it all was dazzling, and sometimes that made me weep with joy. I had an encounter with American priests headed to Rome, one of whom was laughing and shaking his head in disbelief as he sat with me in a garden at the monastery and told me how God was blessing me. But then I had to really live in the raw disordered world of the 8-5 grind outside cloistered dreamlands and, with a second glance, their faces as I remembered them looked less cherubic, sadder, untouched somehow. It’s hard to explain-especially if you’re living in that sort of certainty about how to look at people, about what to do.
My sins for His righteousness. That’s always so much more than anything else I’ve ever prayed for and it’s certainly mine. Can you see how that can sort of grey-out everything else Roman Catholic traditions keep your focus on?
Anyway, sorry for the novel. Just felt like putting that down.
@@dylan3456, well, it’s not easy to be a priest and to live that life.
It’s a life of self-sacrifice, which is dying and denying oneself for others (which are no other than the brethren of Christ) and trying to transcend the humanity in themselves for a higher and nobler purpose which is divine in nature.
For one, the discipline of celibacy is not an easy thing, as it is innate for us humans to have physical partners in our lives.
For these reasons, you somehow feel in them that of being “untouched,” sadder,” etc.
It’s really an “abnormal” life, you might say, as Jesus’ life was an abnormal one as well, wasn’t it?
This one sealed it for me. I had lingering doubts. Dr Hahn just revealed the Papacy to me on a whole new level.
Praise be to God my friend
Thanks be to God!
The angels in Heaven rejoice! Give thanks for your guardian angel, too!
well its time for you to come home..
Awesome!!! Congratulations!!
The humility of Cameron and his openness to Catholicism is quite rare and wonderful. God bless you all for this conversation.
Facts 💯!
He’s being taken for a ride. He’s a nice guy, and they’re all nice guys. So what? They want him to bend the knee like they’ve done because it feels good when people agree with you. I love the big hug fest and flirtations like oh, tell me a little more and maybe I’ll join you ;)
Let’s not lose our heads and forget this is about God. There’s a big problem though with this whole approach to knowing God.
How does Scott Hahn know God? Did his knowledge about God, evidently recorded in both Nature and Scripture, ascertained by his unhindered intellect, develop? Or does he know God immediately, so to speak, when he prays in the name of Christ?
Organic growth is the Roman Catholic understanding of doctrinal development but it isn’t the understanding of revelation. Look, I understand this entirely; it’s an appeal to natural reason. It’s only reasonable that our understanding of anything at all should deepen over time and study across generations-that’s what happens in every other topic as well. But is that the story of a finished work or an ongoing work? What I wonder about is whether you see yourself blurring the line between direct revelation recorded in a completed canon and a developing canon of natural human knowledge of all things.
@@dylan3456 It's funny to see that even when you commend Protestants for something good for the purpose of ecumenism, some of them will still protest against you. What more can you do?
@@chukwudinosike8944 Politeness is useful but it isn’t always honest.
@@dylan3456 Fine. But there's nothing wrong in commending someone for his politeness. Everything you said in response to my first comment was uncalled for. I wasn't trying to bring up a debate. Despite our differences, I think we should learn to commend ourselves from time to time. That was what I was trying to get across.
My wife was methodist for 38 years. 4 years ago she came into the catholic church, after the holy spirit spoke to her. She fought it for 6 yrs, but started researching it, and then started having dreams of Jesus asking her why she was denying his Church. She finally came into the church, and brought me back after I was away from the church 25 plus years. My life has been blessed more than I could have imagined, and I'm the happiest I've ever been. I now do God's work!
I wish that were my case . Comments above yours . God bless you and your wife
quote---I now do God's work! unquote
NOPE--You do NOT! You do Satans work!!!
FACTS:
Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath
Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day......(.Saturday)
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (Sunday)
Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath).
Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,(After sunset Saturday)
Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week (Sunday)
Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, (friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin
Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.( Just before sunset Friday)
Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, (Sunday)
John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day (Friday), in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one,
John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation (Friday), since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover
>>>Where do people go upon death" Grave, heaven or purgatory?
FACTS:
They are sleeping in the grave until Jesus comes back.
----Revelation 20:4--And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (IN HEAVEN)
-----Psalm 115:17----The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.
---Ecclesiastes 9:10----Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
---Job --14:10---12-- But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
11 As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
------Ecclesiastes 9:5-6---For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
----Genesis 3:19--In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
----Psalm 146:4--His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
----Ecclesiastes 12:7--Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
--James 2:26---For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
--Psalm 6:5---For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
etc, etc.
FACTS:
The Bible contains no command for Christians to devote Sunday, the first day of the week, to rest and worship. For early Christians, Sunday was a workday like any other. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia states: “It was not until the 4th century that Sunday began to take on sabbath characteristics, when [the pagan Roman emperor] Constantine decreed that certain types of work should not be done on Sunday.”
FACTS:
About the catholic church: Change the Sabbath"
Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174.
----"The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893.
---"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
----"Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day?
"Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910.
What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change of the Sabbath was effected. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D.
It's obvious that neither you nor your wife are very grounded in the scripture is why you and especially her were so easily convinced to turn to the papacy. The Holy Spirit leads people AWAY from the blood-soaked (inquisition) catholic church, not to it.
@@BloodTar sure what ever maybe study the catholic faith and deep history and cease to be Protestant. It's the true religion Jesus founded upon Peter! look into eucharistic miracles and believe in the one true catholic faith. Godbless
@@empackmanmueller1725 There are *protestants:* _protesters of the catholic church._ Not anymore. Those people died hundreds of years ago. In fact, the only real protestants of today that truly do protest the papacy and its pope on a daily basis is a movement in your cult that calls itself the SSPX. They literally wish death upon anyone following Vatican II. Don't believe me? Go talk to one of its adherents and you'll know what a true protester "protestant" of your cult really is. By the way, there is no such thing as a "eucharist" mentioned anywhere in the rule book, aka, the Bible. Now go do your homework.
What a Conversation. Scott Hahn is running a ferry service across the Tiber.
😅 I actually chuckled out loud when I read your comment… I think it’s true
@@lindachegwin7064 I did too 😂😂
Me too!
i laughed loud at this comment 🤣
Me too! 😂Yes he is!! Thanking King Jesus for him!! (Scott Hahn!) ❤🙏🏻😃
As someone who has been investigating and seriously considering catholicism, this show has blown me out of the water. Scott is a gem.
Please pray for me that I may come to the truth on this matter.
Listen to Jimmy Akin and other ex-protestants called by Jesus to defend the Holy Mother Church.
Keep up with Scott Hahn! He’s incredible and so genuine in the Faith! God Bless you
@@geo.ies93 quote----Listen to Jimmy Akin and other ex-protestants called by Jesus to defend the Holy Mother Church.--unquote
I will make one change to that comment.
Listen to Jimmy Akin and other ex-protestants called by Satan to defend the Holy Mother Church.
Holy Mother Church??? Where is that in the Bible??????
I think when you say Holy Mother Church you mean this:Revelation 17:5-6 KJV and upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
THAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 :
Actually, the previous commentators are correct.
You have misunderstood that passage in Apocalypse; the one referring to the city of Jerusalem.
The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ on Earth.
@@alhilford2345 quote---You have misunderstood that passage in Apocalypse; the one referring to the city of Jerusalem.-unquote
THAT IS AN OPINION with NO FACTS----NO scripture.
----quote---The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ on Earth.-- unquote
AGAIN, THAT IS AN OPINION with NO FACTS----NO scripture.
The followers of Christ are the Body of Christ!!!!
The name Catholic Church is NEVER mentioned in the Bible.
As a son, grandson, nephew and cousin of well meaning and faithful Baptist Pastors I was raised in a mostly anti-catholic environment, although my family respected the Christian faith of many Catholics. When I decided to study Catholic teaching I realized that it is deeper, stronger and more beautiful than I thought. I feel Catholic now.
Same! I just was confirmed into the Church on Easter after simply reading. The lies I was fed growing up almost made it easier. Like, “why would I have been lied to about literally EVERYTHING about Catholicism”
Where are you at with your discernment in this spiritual life?
Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways!
RCC vs BIBLE 2
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it.
11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + partake Roman sacraments + believe in roman pontiff + be in roman cult = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16.
13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
16. RCC says Sunday is the day of worship, just becaise Jesus arose on that day. Yet--The HOLY BIBLE says the SEVENTH DAY IS the ONLY day God rested on, blessed and made Holy.--Gen 2:1- 3, Ex 20:8-11.
Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a catholic disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
**Research it yourself!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 did you even listen to the interview? If your so invested in your heretical views then please by all means go to Catholic truths website and offer to debate him on camera. The problem is that most people who comment things like you have do not actually understand anything that they said. You take things out of context and use it to justify your false worldview. By all means. Go and debate. I pray God works in your life to deliver you from your strife and struggle.
@@Roma-rusk As usual, 99% of Catholics CAN NOT /WILL NOT refute my quotes with scripture.
PROVE the scripture WRONG wirth facts--NOT OPINIONS!!!
**quote--If your so invested in your heretical views --unquote
Really? So quotes from the Holy Bible are heritical???
It is interesting which "sticking points" are the "if it is true, then Catholicism is true and I must be Catholic." I was approaching Catholicism from an historical point of view, that is, which church is closest to the Church Christ established. But, when my mother, who is an ex-Catholic, confronted me, her sticking point was the Eucharist. She said, " if the Eucharist is really Jesus, then I must be Catholic, but it can't be because (insert typical protestant anti-real-presence rhetoric). At that point, the Eucharist became my sticking point, because I had already established that Catholicism fits the historic narrative, at least better than any Protestant church. Well, I had a vision (not a dream in my sleep, but a vision while awake in prayer) that confirmed the Real Presence, as well as Dr. Hahn's excellent proofs and arguments. I never really found the papacy to be a sticking point. As soon as I heard about Peter meaning Rock, I believed. It wasn't an issue. But, I appreciate the variety of sticking points because it keeps the Truth alive and flowing as we work on our walk Home to Rome. Pray for me. I am not yet fully Home and my family is very much against Catholicism. But, I'm on my way!
Anglicans and Lutherans believe in Real Presence as do the Assyrians, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox. Some Methodists do too.
I believe in Real Presence but not a literal Presence of Elements changing of the RCC.
@@Tsalagi978 indeed, I should have clarified "insert typical evangelical...." I was baptized Catholic as an infant, but raised Evangelical charismatic (Assembly of God).
I will pray for you and your journey home in my Rosary today :)
Praying for you!
I feel a lot of love for Cameron. His humility and the way he’s searching for truth are very winning.
I know there is a reason I was blessed to be a cradle catholic, If I were born Protestant, my pride would keep me locked lol.
I think he’s too lukewarm for my Catholic faith! There was a few moments where Hahn has him cornered and the guy over leaped it with to regards to my faith!
He has a Catholic family name so he has no excuses
@@edwinmendezforlife judgemental attitudes serve no one. He’s struggling against himself and many other factors. This kind of judgemental attitude isn’t good for you brother.
I also spent a lot of time on Catholic Answers Forums. However I do miss the old Forums the website used to have
This was one of the best shows - ever!
Dr. Scott Hahn is such a blessing.
RCC vs BIBLE
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it.
11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + 7 sacraments + obedience = salvation). Yet Bible says believe in Jesus to be saved. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16.
13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a c--- disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
(Do not go beyond what was written?
The little saying “do not go beyond what is written,” is found in Paul's argument to convince the Corinthians to be one in Christ (1 Cor 1:10- 4:21).
@@mitchellosmer1293
You can go to Catholic Answers to get all of your objections answered, and more!
God bless you my friend! ⚘️
@@rosiegirl2485 Nope--I want my answers from people that have been lied to--and deceived.
@@mitchellosmer1293Read the church fathers, read Rome sweet home, look at Catholic answers, go to mass, watch more of these discussions and listen to them with an open mind (there’s a great one on Marian doctrine). You will find the answers you are looking for.
My mom converted from an Anabaptist Mennonite background after reading Rome Sweet Home. She only decided to read it after she got it a second time in the same week from two different people. I converted two years later, after spending a lot of time on Catholic Answers. This will be my eighteenth Easter in the Church. Never heard about the proper tense of Matthew 18:18. I had always puzzled on that phrasing and it makes much more sense to me now.
As a cradle Catholic this was wonderful conversation to listen to. Prayers for all 3 of you. Very much a blessing for me as my husband of 24 years will be received full into the Catholic Church this Saturday during Easter vigil. Prayers ❤️🙏
welcome home!
So happy for you and your husband. God is merciful.
Any advice for a wife that would like to bring her husband to catholicism ? Praying, time? We got married in the catholic church which was super meaningful for me. How did this happen for you? ❤️
@@r.m5883 very slowly with a lot of praying to Mary. We also were married in the church. He attended mass with me for all our married years. When I retired and we moved I wanted to do more with my new parish. I volunteered to be a Catechist and he told me it was time to join the church officially. I think he liked our new parish too. And the pastor is so wonderful. That always helps. Also during COVID shutdown he became a huge fan of The Chosen and wanted to feel more of the Holy Spirit. Wanted the Eucharist to be part of him. God had the perfect time for him and he was receptive. I’ll be praying for you and your husband.
@@r.m5883 ----The ONLY day GOD called HIS HOLY DAY--Sabbath--seventh day
The ONLY DAY GOD rested on--Sabbath--seventh day
The ONLY day GOD Blessed--seventh day---Sabbath
The ONLY DAY GOD Sanctified!
The ONLY day GOD named--Sabbath!!!!
--Show to me any other day that God rested on, blessed, gave a name to, sanctified, and called HIS HOLY DAY!!!!-----When YOU take HIS HOLY DAY from Him--that is THEFT!!!
I really admire Cameron for sitting on the hot seat, with such grace and dignity, listening to the answers to questions and still raise respectful objections and share where there is agreement. I am so grateful for my catholic friends who were willing to engage with my arguments when I was a seeker and grateful to have found home in the Catholic church
Welcome home 🙏
I started my journey to Catholicism in large part because of Capturing Christianity.
Dr. Scott Hahn, you are such a blessing to the world, not just because you are Catholic and a good person...
its because you make learning about our Church and its history so easy to listen to and understand. That is a rare gift. God Bless.
So true!
I’m a charismatic Senior Pastor who is finishing up RCIA right now as an “inquirer.” I call myself a “half-tholic;” Dr. Hahn and Bishop Barron are the primary reasons why. And I def appreciate this channel 🙏 God is good! (Dr. Hahn - I can’t wait to get that Ignatius Old Testament! Thanks for your service to the Body!)
ps - as Protestants we have a problem with the Bishop of Rome being referred to as the Vicar of Christ, but MANY Protestant pastors regularly say, “Jesus is the Shepherd of this church and I’m the Under-Shepherd” with no problem at all 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Boniface VIII, Unam sanctam, A.D. 1302:
"Therefore, of the one and only Church (there is) one body, one head, not two heads as a monster, namely, Christ and Peter, the Vicar of Christ and the successor of Peter, the Lord Himself saying to Peter: "Feed my sheep" (Jn 21,17). He said "My," and generally, not individually these or those, through which it is understood that He entrusted all to him. If, therefore, the Greeks or others say that they were not entrusted to Peter and his successors, of necessity let them confess that they are not of the sheep of Christ, since the Lord says in John, "to be one flock and one Shepherd" (Jn 10,16)."
Good comment! You seem like a man of good Will! You must become Catholic to save your soul. That’s been the church teaching since the beginning. Protestantism was a demonic heresy
Hey I am interested in your journey to Catholicism because you are a charismatic. I have read many convert stories but there are 'relatively' fewer from the charismatic strand. I find that many charismatics are so experience orientated that the intellectual reasons for Catholicism are less likely to appeal other than a supernatural encounter where the Lord directly speaks to them to convert. What sort of charismatic pastor are you? What are your influences? Are they the Randy Clark, John Wimber type of thing? Have you heard of Ulf Ekman the megachurch charismatic leader who converted to Catholicism?
@@michellea9857 Thanks for your interest & a BIG God bless you to you and yours! So, I agree that Charismatics are a little too influenced by experience (their own or those of preachers they like, etc.) in generally charismatic areas. But, in fundamental Christian theology, i.e. Trinity, Virgin Birth, All-Things-Jesus (sinless, died for us, descended, raised, ascended for us,), need to be baptized, Angles, Demons, etc. etc. etc. I would say that they are def biblically, not experientially, oriented. Nonetheless, I used to work for, preach with, etc. a man by the name of Norvel Hayes. He was a pure-as-they-come, sincere man who genuinely walked with God. Regardless of what you may or may not think of him, his best friend for 35 years was Kenneth E. Hagin. So, I have a Word of Faith-Charismatic background but Norvel Hayes, Hagin, and def myself really don't associate with what most of the silliness that many people associate with the WOF "camp." I know of Wimber but don't really know much of anything about him. Also, I am a strong adherent of preterism, as most through Church history have been. I'm a friend of Dr. Lynn Hiles a strong charismatic preterist preacher today and another genuine, humble man of God. And yes, I am familiar with Ulf Eckman's story. I find it a wonderful and inspiring story!
That's all I got for now...God bless!
@@riverjao thank you that is great to get a flavour of where God has led you, I would also check out Barbara Heil and also the late Rev Alex Jones if you haven’t heard of them also. My time spent in protestant churches particularly in charismatic evangelical churches has really enriched me. I have learnt by the grace of God to encounter Him at a Traditional Latin Mass and Eastern rite liturgies, although theologically they are very different to the spontaneous charismatic aspect for me they feed into each other. I still have Hagin books and still dip into them for inspiration, personally I feel a lot of people caricature some of the WOF people and actually there is a lot of good things to glean about healing and financial provision from these people if you can spit out some of the excesses. Blessings in Jesus through the intercession of His mother!
Even if Dr. Hahn wasn’t an absolute master of theology, I’m pretty sure his dulcet tones could be considered a weapon of mass Catholicism.
So true!😂
The guy could work for Audible
I could listen to him speak forever 😅🥳
🤣😂
😂 Love it
Scott Hahn has such a way to describe teachings of the church in always using typology. Whether it’s the papacy, Marian dogma, Eucharist, or Jesus himself. Just purely incredible. A blessing and a true theological genius
I would strongly encourage you to find books and UA-cam videos on Peter Kreeft, he is a catholic philosopher, poet, story teller that has some of most beautiful ways of describing Catholicism and its beauty! Particularly on the Eucharist
Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways!
RCC vs BIBLE 2
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it.
11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + partake Roman sacraments + believe in roman pontiff + be in roman cult = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16.
13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
16. RCC says Sunday is the day of worship, just becaise Jesus arose on that day. Yet--The HOLY BIBLE says the SEVENTH DAY IS the ONLY day God rested on, blessed and made Holy.--Gen 2:1- 3, Ex 20:8-11.
Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a catholic disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
So glad we’ve got great catholic content in UA-cam so I don’t fill my brain with trash …
As a protestant minister of an evangelical church, I absolutely love this dialogue! I have a degree in patristics and absolutely love the church fathers… I love the unity and the dialogue of this conversation. I love that we can hold to mere Christianity with Christ as the head and our unity is in Christ! I am so blessed and filled with joy to call my brothers and sisters in the Roman Catholic Church truly my brothers and sisters in Christ! Thank you Matt and thank you Cameron! I have enjoyed you both for so many years now.
SSPX
Blessings Pastor Matthew
Make no mistake, God is on the move in the midst of this wonderful conversation.
God bless you as you serve Him too!
How's those 151 anathemas pronounced upon all Protestants working out for ya with your unity? LOL
I will pray for the sheep following you. Smh
Scott Hahn is a holy man. I am astounded with his ability to explain his reasoning so simply and easily to understand.
I have followed Scott Hahn and Kimberly since they swam across the Tiber and I couldn't help but feel convicted of their holiness/saintliness. God be praised and glorified.
Dr. Hahn’s last words to Cameron described my journey into the Church. Each doctrine had to be examined. As I accepted one then next would be a problem I would have to work through.
For example, I would say to myself I’m ok with what the Church teaches except for Mary… I would study & pray about the doctrines & dogmas on Mary until I finally realized the truth & accepted it. Then the next doctrine would come up…I’m ok with the teachings of the Church except for the papacy…etc. etc. Until all my objections were gone. I entered into RCIA after that.
I came home 2014 & have never regretted it! 😁👍🙏❤️
Welcome Home to the Church of Jesus Christ.
----The ONLY day GOD called HIS HOLY DAY--Sabbath--seventh day
The ONLY DAY GOD rested on--Sabbath--seventh day
The ONLY day GOD Blessed--seventh day---Sabbath
The ONLY DAY GOD Sanctified!
The ONLY day GOD named--Sabbath!!!!
--Show to me any other day that God rested on, blessed, gave a name to, sanctified, and called HIS HOLY DAY!!!!-----When YOU take HIS HOLY DAY from Him--that is THEFT!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 get out of here with that false Church the 7 day Adventist led by a woman which St Paul said woman shouldn’t teach in the 1800’s 1st Timothy : 2 : 12 - For I do not permit a woman to teach, nor to be in authority over a man, but to be in silence.
Why don’t you listen to the Catholic Bible and the Church that Jesus Christ started ?
@@mitchellosmer1293 I guess Ellen G White didn’t get the memo . Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus.
@@johnvitelli3862! EGW NEVER Preached to anyone!!!
quote---Why don’t you listen to the Catholic Bible and the Church that Jesus Christ started ?--unquote
LOL--ROFL---When was the FIRST time that the name Catholic was written??? IGNATIUS of ANTIOCH in 110 AD!!!!! FACT!!
FACT!!!!! The name CATHOLIC is NOT in the Holy Bible!!!
Fact!!! Jesus NEVER worshiped on Sunday, nor did He ever teach it!!!!
Fact!!! Jesus NEVER taught Mary or anyone to pray to beads!!!
Fact!!! Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on MY HOLY DAY, And call the Sabbath a delight, The holy day of the LORD honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words,
****The ONLY day God RESTED ON!!!
The ONLY day God BLESSED!!!
The ONLY day God SANCTIFIED!!!
The ONLY day God named!!!!!
The ONLY day God Called HIS HOLY DAY!!!
***FACT!!! ******Although Peter recognized himself as an apostle (see, e.g., 1 Pet. 1:1; 2 Pet. 1:1), he never claimed a superior title, rank, or privilege over the other apostles. He even referred to himself as a “fellow elder” (1 Pet. 5:1) and as “a bond-servant” of Christ (2 Pet. 1:1). Far from claiming honor and homage for himself, he soberly warns his fellow elders to guard against lording it over those under their pastoral care (1 Pet. 5:3). The only glory he claimed for himself was that which is shared by all believers and which is yet “to be revealed, … when the Chief Shepherd appears” (vv. 1, 4).
***FACT!! Genesis 4
King James Version
4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
Matthew 1:25 but did not have sexual relations with her until she gave birth to a son. And he named him Jesus.
(And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.)
SAME terminology used to descriobe the realtionship between Adam and Eve --(Knew her)
FACT!!! Isaiah 8:20
To the teaching and to the testimony! If they will not speak according to this word, it is because they have no light.
FACT!!! Tradition holds that the first Gentile church was founded in Antioch, Acts 11:20-21, where it is recorded that the disciples of Jesus Christ were first called Christians (Acts 11:26). It was from Antioch that St. Paul started on his missionary journeys.
ACTS-written between 70 Ad--90 AD--- CHRISTIANS--NOT CATHOLIC!!!!!
At least 40 years AFTER Christ!!!!------
*****When was the first Christian church built?
The earliest archeologically identified Christian church is a house church (domus ecclesiae), the Dura-Europos church, founded between 233 and 256. In the second half of the 3rd century AD, the first purpose-built halls for Christian worship (aula ecclesiae) began to be constructed.
CHRISTIAN--NOT CATHOLIC!!!!!
Built between 293 and 303, the building pre-dates the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem, Israel, and the Church of the Nativity, Bethlehem, West Bank, both of which were constructed in the late 320s. The church is the first purpose-built Christian church discovered from the period before Christianity found favour with the Roman imperial governmen*****The oldest known purpose-built Christian church in the world is in Aqaba, Jordan. t. It even pre-dates the greatest of all the Roman anti-Christian persecutions, that of Diocletian in 303-313. The church, the ruins of which were excavated in 1998, is in the form of an east-west oriented basicila, with apse and aisles. It also had a narthex and chancel. Excavation has unearthed walls up to 4.5m 14ft 9in high. During its first phase the church would have held about 60 worshipers; it was later extended to hold about 100. The building appears to have been abandoned during the presecution of 303-311, then refurbished between 313 and 330. It was destroyed by an earthquake in 363.
CHRISTIAN--NOT CATHOLIC
*** Built between 293 and 303, --CHRISTIAN--NOT CATHOLIC!!!!!!
Thus was a fantastic conversation. I know what Cameron is going through. I’ve been there. I was a Presbyterian and had Catholic friends. One of them put Rome Sweet Home in my hands. Two years later I became Catholic. That was 19 years ago! I love listening to Dr. Hahn. He is such an immense treasure to the Catholic Church.
CLAIMS of the RCC
1. Catholics claim CHURCH refers to Roman Catholic Church. BIBLE says CHURCH refers to all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1, Mat 16:18. HISTORY tells us Roman Church was just one local Church a member of the Pentarchy.
2. Catholics claim Roman Church was the CHURCH CHRIST founded (First Church) or one true church. BIBLE says First Local Church was Jerusalem Church. Acts 2. Not Roman Catholic Church.
3. Catholics claim there is only One Church. BIBLE mentions both CHURCH and Churches.
“CHURCH” refers to the Body of Christ Eph 5:30, Col 1:18 consisting of all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1 Mat 16:18.
“Churches” refers to local churches Acts 9:31, Acts 15:41 and believers Romans 16:5, 1 Cor 16:19,
4. Catholics claim to be the first believers. BIBLE says first believers were Jewish Christians. Acts 2, Acts 11:26, NOT roman catholics.
5. Catholics claim Pope is the head of the CHURCH. BIBLE says JESUS is the HEAD OF THE CHURCH. Eph 1:22, Eph 5:23, Col 1:18.
6. Catholics claim outside Roman Church there is NO SALVATION. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11.
7. Catholics claim submit to Roman Pontiff to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11.
8. Catholics claim devote to Mary to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11.
9. . BIBLE says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16.
10. Catholics claim Roman Church inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16 or John 20 or John 21.
11. Catholics claim Roman pontiff inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16.
12. Catholics claim bishop of ROME = the pope. BIBLE does not say that.
13. Catholics claim there is an office of bishop of bishops/universal bishop/pope. BIBLE does not speak of such an office. History tells us the first bishop of bishops came in AD590-600s.
14. Roman Church has all the false unbiblical clergies - Roman priests, roman cardinals, roman pontiff, monks, nuns, friars, … BIBLE mentions only pastors, teachers, evangelists, prophets, apostles, deacons, bishop, elders. Titus 1:5, Eph 4:11, 1 Tim 3.
15. Roman Church claim its doctrines come from traditions of Apostles. BUT 95% of roman doctrines are Not from traditions of Jesus or Apostles or Scriptures; neither practised by the Church of the Bible.
@@mitchellosmer1293
1. You are equating the Catholic Church with the Western Patriarchate, which is innacurate
2. We don't believe Rome is the first local Church in a literal sense as in literal age
3. Catholic believe in a single visible Universal Church and in multiple Local Churches
4. Jewish christians weren't a denomination appart from the rest of the Early Church. There is continuity between the first christians and us
5. We claim the Pope is the visible Head of the Church as a delegate of Jesus, this doesn't contradict that Jesus is the ultimate Head of the Church
6. The Church is the Body of Christ, outside His Body there is no salvation
7. Submitt to the Roman Pontiff as in obeying Jesus who set him over us as our sheepherd
8. Praying the rosary isn't necessary for salvation in catholicism
9. Okay? And what is your point?
10.
11.
12. Whether Peter was suceeded by the Roman Bishop is a matter of history and Tradition, not of Scripture
13. We don't believe the Pope is an universal Bishop
14. Monks and nuns aren't clergy. Cardinals are just people advising the Pope and electing him. The essential hierarchy of the Church is Pope-Bishop-Priest
15. I am curious about how you came to that very interesting percentage
@@mitchellosmer1293 I pray the Holy Spirit Guides you to the right Church
@@PabloVelasco-hr3ko quote---I pray the Holy Spirit Guides you to the right Church.. unquote
Oh, but He has. One that FOLLOWS Christ and NOT the lies and deceit of Satan.
@@mitchellosmer1293 As you say. I hope you have an Answer to the Lord for why you hated his mother and rejected his Church
I could listen to Hahn all day.
Dr. Hahn’s attentiveness and sincere interest in just listening is admirable. The guy could string a list a mile long of arguments but his first move is to just listen. Awesome. What a gift for Cameron to have access to all these elite resources; Dr. Hahn, Dr. Ortland, Jimmy Akin, Trent Horn, Suan Sona…he should record all conversations so everyone can benefit. I absolutely love Dr. Hahn, just for the record…awesome.
Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways!
RCC vs BIBLE 2
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it.
11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + partake Roman sacraments + believe in roman pontiff + be in roman cult = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16.
13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
16. RCC says Sunday is the day of worship, just becaise Jesus arose on that day. Yet-The HOLY BIBLE says the SEVENTH DAY IS the ONLY day God rested on, blessed and made Holy.--Gen 2:1 3, Ex 20:8-11.
Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a catholic disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
@@mitchellosmer1293 you are misrepresenting Catholic views with every bullet point.
@@SUPERHEAVYBOOSTER--- All I read is an OPINION!!!
PROVE IT with scripture!!!
Let's start with these:
Catholics claim Sunday is a holy day, to worship on.
QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD RESTED on the First day of the week.
---QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD BLESSED the First day of the week.
--QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD SANCTIFIED (MADE HOLY, hallowed) the First day of the week.
---QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD NAMED the First day of the week.
--QUOTE the Holy Bible that says GOD DECLARES the First day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY.
@@mitchellosmer1293 “prove it with scripture”
What gives scripture authority?
@@SUPERHEAVYBOOSTER --Obviously you have never read the Bible. It is the ONLY writings inspired by God.
EVERY prophesy given in the Bible has been 100% accurate, to this day. History has proven it!!!!
Scott Hahn is the real McCoy. Unbelievable biblical expertise.
One of the best discussions regarding papacy.
@YAJUN YUAN
“Moreover, we have biblical evidence-John 1:42-that also points to Jesus using Aramaic in the naming of Peter: “[Andrew] brought [Peter] to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, ‘So you are Simon the son of John? You shall be called Cephas’” (which means Peter).
The name Cephas is an anglicized form of the Aramaic Kepha, which means simply “rock.” There would have been no “small rock” to be found in Jesus’ original statement to Peter.
Even well-respected Protestant scholars will agree on this point. Baptist scholar D. A. Carson, warites, in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary:
[T]he underlying Aramaic is in this case unquestionable; and most probably kepha was used in both clauses (“you are kepha” and “on this kepha”), since the word was used both for a name and for a “rock.” The Peshitta (written in Syriac, a language cognate with a dialect of Aramaic) makes no distinction between the words in the two clauses.”
www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/peter-the-rock
About the catholic church: Change the Sabbath"
Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174.
----"The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893.
---"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
----"Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day?
"Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910.
What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change of the Sabbath was effected. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D.
FACTS:
Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath
Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day......(.Saturday)
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (Sunday)
Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath).
Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,(After sunset Saturday)
Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week (Sunday)
Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, (friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin
Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.( Just before sunset Friday)
Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, (Sunday)
John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day (Friday), in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one,
John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation (Friday), since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover
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Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hades [the realm of the dead] (Grave) were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire [the eternal separation from God]. DEATH!!!!
FACTS:
I will ask these questions again which NO ONE can answer.
And I know you will NOT!!!
---Where in the Holy Bible does God say He rested on the first day of the week to make that day special??
----Where in the Holy Bible does God say He BLESSED the first day of the week to make that day special??
----Where in the Holy Bible does God say He SANCTIFIED the first day of the week to make that day special??
---Where in the Holy Bible does God say He Gave a name to the first day of the week to make that day special??
---Where in the Holy Bible does God say He DECLARES the first day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??
For my part I feel incredibly fortunate to be a fly on the wall during Cameron's explorations/excavations into Catholicism. It is such a personal journey for most of us and the fact that he is "bringing us along" as it were, is a privilege that we truly don't deserve.
CLAIMS of the RCC
1. Catholics claim CHURCH refers to Roman Catholic Church. BIBLE says CHURCH refers to all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1, Mat 16:18. HISTORY tells us Roman Church was just one local Church a member of the Pentarchy.
2. Catholics claim Roman Church was the CHURCH CHRIST founded (First Church) or one true church. BIBLE says First Local Church was Jerusalem Church. Acts 2. Not Roman Catholic Church.
3. Catholics claim there is only One Church. BIBLE mentions both CHURCH and Churches.
“CHURCH” refers to the Body of Christ Eph 5:30, Col 1:18 consisting of all churches. Acts 5:11, Acts 8:1 Mat 16:18.
“Churches” refers to local churches Acts 9:31, Acts 15:41 and believers Romans 16:5, 1 Cor 16:19,
4. Catholics claim to be the first believers. BIBLE says first believers were Jewish Christians. Acts 2, Acts 11:26, NOT roman catholics.
5. Catholics claim Pope is the head of the CHURCH. BIBLE says JESUS is the HEAD OF THE CHURCH. Eph 1:22, Eph 5:23, Col 1:18.
6. Catholics claim outside Roman Church there is NO SALVATION. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11.
7. Catholics claim submit to Roman Pontiff to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11.
8. Catholics claim devote to Mary to be saved. BIBLE says “apart from Jesus there is NO SALVATION”. Acts 4:12, 1 Cor 3:11.
9. . BIBLE says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16.
10. Catholics claim Roman Church inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16 or John 20 or John 21.
11. Catholics claim Roman pontiff inherited infallible authority from Peter. BIBLE does not say that in Mat 16.
12. Catholics claim bishop of ROME = the pope. BIBLE does not say that.
13. Catholics claim there is an office of bishop of bishops/universal bishop/pope. BIBLE does not speak of such an office. History tells us the first bishop of bishops came in AD590-600s.
14. Roman Church has all the false unbiblical clergies - Roman priests, roman cardinals, roman pontiff, monks, nuns, friars, … BIBLE mentions only pastors, teachers, evangelists, prophets, apostles, deacons, bishop, elders. Titus 1:5, Eph 4:11, 1 Tim 3.
15. Roman Church claim its doctrines come from traditions of Apostles. BUT 95% of roman doctrines are Not from traditions of Jesus or Apostles or Scriptures; neither practised by the Church of the Bible.
@@mitchellosmer1293almost all of those are painfully straw man arguments. Typical protestant way of “refuting” the Holy Mother Church.
As has already been noted: this was the best discussion. I am on a similar journey as Cameron, though I'm near 100% so I'll be signing up for RCIA after Easter. But! Was reading along and found this to just add the mix regarding the already convincing evidence (/truth) that is the papacy.
I'd never really noted the significance before in Acts 5:12-15: "Many signs and wonders were done among the people at the hands of the apostles. They were all together in Solomon’s portico. None of the others dared to join them, but the people esteemed them. Yet more than ever, believers in the Lord, great numbers of men and women, were added to them. Thus they even carried the sick out into the streets and laid them on cots and mats so that when Peter came by, at least his shadow might fall on one or another of them."
It could have said one of the apostles' shadows. But PETER is the one that had primacy. And the people even recognized that at the time. Wow.
Good insight!
Yes, great point!
I just contacted RCIA after discerning Catholicism for nearly 3 years. I'll be joining the group of newly confirmed Catholics for their mystagogy after Easter. Then will be a break for summer but I'll join the new RCIA group in September. I could make a profession of faith and go through this process more quickly but I want the whole experience. I'm excited to attend the Easter Vigil this Saturday and see what I have to look forward to next Easter when I'm confirmed.
May God bless you on your journey.
I will say this. Not all RCIA programs are good. Don't lose heart if you end up with a person teaching heretical things. Gently bring it to their attention after the class with as a few witnesses as possible. If they change their mind good and if not you can correct them in the more public way of the class (if they persist in teaching falsehoods). Just make sure to have citations for the corrections.
Also the council of Jerusalem recorded there in Acts. Paul spoke, others spoke, but after Peter spoke “everyone fell silent”.
God bless you🙏🏼❤️
Cameron is so blessed to have access to these amazing apologists- I feel for those who have to wrestle with these questions on their own, without such phone numbers to get accurate answers. I hope Cameron continues to record his process so he can share with people in the same situation. Dr. Scott Hahn has such a gift from God!
I like hearing Dr. Hahn explain things because it doesn’t go over my head!
Beautiful conversation. Scott Hahn could do so much to bring people an orthodox understanding bridging trad and Liberal hangups.
Half way thru and the best part is when Scott said the other guy talks in sound bites..his fragile reality is falling apart so he broke and his doubts fractured into a whole new identity and he now has DID.. His friend is that other identity
Roman cult contradicts the Scriptures in every possible ways!
RCC vs BIBLE 2
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. Yet BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say RCC clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter had mother in law. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was perpetually virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to priests. Yet BIBLE says confess to GOD directly. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the literal blood of Jesus. Yet BIBLE says do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics say their statues are not idols. Yet BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics say Holy Water. Yet BIBLE mentions nothing about it.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it.
11. Catholics say there is a NT clergy priesthood. Yet NT says OT priesthood was done away with. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics say work for salvation (faith + good works + partake Roman sacraments + believe in roman pontiff + be in roman cult = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16.
13. Catholics says they must do penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. RCC says Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
16. RCC says Sunday is the day of worship, just becaise Jesus arose on that day. Yet-The HOLY BIBLE says the SEVENTH DAY IS the ONLY day God rested on, blessed and made Holy.--Gen 2:1 3, Ex 20:8-11.
Roman Catholicism is full of contradiction and anti Scriptures. Nothing is more evil than a catholic disguising as Christianity deceiving many.
@@mitchellosmer1293 I'm obviously not going to dignify this with an answer, do some research into apologetics
@@JJ-og2jq a·pol·o·get·ics
/əˌpäləˈjediks/
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noun
reasoned arguments or writings in justification of something, typically a theory or religious doctrine.
quote--I'm obviously not going to dignify this with an answer,--unquote
Can't answer ??? Theory--but NOT facts.
@@JJ-og2jq quote-- I'm obviously not going to dignify this with an answer, do some research into apologetics---unquote---
a·pol·o·get·ics
/əˌpäləˈjediks/
noun
reasoned arguments or writings in justification of something, typically a theory or religious doctrine.
----THEORY--NOT FACTS
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To be in the presence of a wise, knowledgeable man to answer your nagging questions is such a blessing.
I have a list of people, for whom I pray daily that they will become Catholic. Cameron has been on that list for about a year. God bless you, Cameron, on your journey.
Catholics like you, who rather than attack or mock Protestants for their ignorance or spiritual blindness instead show grace, love, and a desire for them to reach the Church, are what helped me realize that there is no way Catholicism is a satanic cult unless it's the worst one ever because I certainly see fruit among them!!! You are doing so many blessings by interceding for others the way you do. I love Christ's church and seeing Him reflected, it just further reaffirms my awe and reverence for the mysteries of God.
@@Christ-Is-King_ It would be a grave mistake for us to do so. The Church has officially and irrevocably recognized in Vatican II that all followers of Christ out of the Visible Church (through no fault of their own) are "Separated Brethren" and we are to talk with them about our faith with gentleness and respect (as the Bible recommends!) as fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, with hope to bring unity to Christ's body (as Christ Himself wished us to be!)
So, God willing, may all other interactions be like so as well! May God illuminate my brothers and sisters in these truths.
He did convert 🙌 Your prayers were heard!
Matt, please have Cameron on more often.
Doctor Hahn is such a self-effacing fatherly spiritual companion, helping and responding with wise and instructive information after listening patiently and sensitively while Matt graciously facilitates with angelic hospitality and enthusiasm bridled with patience.
Dude!
Brant Pitre's explanation of the Jewish roots of the Papacy is excellent. He shows how the keys given to Peter do not just contain royal authority as steward of the Kingdom but a priestly authority as well.
The keys to the temple in Jerusalem were kept on the rock that the temple(church) was built on.
Thanks! Will watch this
He should wrote a book about it. He has videos about it. I'd rather he wrote a book. A book is more... permanent and timeless.
He has a channel called Catholic Productions
Catholic Encyclopedia: The Pope: "The expressions binding and loosing here employed are derived from the current terminology of the Rabbinic schools. A doctor who declared a thing to be prohibited by the law was said to bind, for thereby he imposed an obligation on the conscience. He who declared it to be lawful was said to loose."
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Binding and loosing is originally a Jewish Mishnaic phrase also mentioned in the New Testament, as well as in the Targum. In usage, to bind and to loose simply means to forbid by an indisputable authority and to permit by an indisputable authority.
----One passage helps us immensely in clarifying what is meant in this text. For the same pair of Greek words (δέω and λύω) used in Revelation 20 for the concept of binding and loosing, respectively, are used by the Lord to describe church discipline in the Gospel of Matthew. In Matthew 18:18, Jesus says, “I tell you the truth, whatever you shall bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.” Jesus taught us that church authorities can prohibit or permit certain types of behavior.
In other words, on the one hand the elders of the church can hold unrepentant church members to account by "binding" them and not allowing them certain privileges of their membership. For instance, a man in an adulterous relationship could be forbidden to participate in the Lord's Supper while the church holds him accountable and seeks his repentance. Then on the other hand, if this man were to later repent and show appropriate fruits of repentance, the elders could at the proper time forgive him and "loose" him from the consequences of his sin by allowing him to return to the Lord's Table. So to "bind" someone is to prevent them from exercising a right they would normally have, and to "loose" a person is to permit them to exercise their natural behavior.
>>>Jesus gave Peter “the keys of the kingdom of heaven,” not the keys to heaven.1 A key was a badge of authority ( Luke 11:52 ), and then as now was used to open doors. Peter used the keys Christ gave him to open the door to the Jews on the Day of Pentecost ( Acts 2 ), to the Samaritans after the preaching of Philip ( Acts 8:14-17 ), and to the Gentiles after the Lord had sent him a vision and an appeal from Cornelius ( Acts 10 ).
The concept of “binding and loosing” found in Matthew 16:19 and Matthew 18:18 was commonly used among the Jewish people in relation to the authority of the rabbis to forbid and permit certain practices. Jesus gave Peter and the apostles authority over both the doctrine and practices of the first-century church. Through the leading of the Holy Spirit, they would be given wisdom to know what to forbid and what to permit.
Scott Hahn was on fire. I especially liked his commentary on Acts 15 the Jerusalem Council.
Cameron’s genuine openness to truth is inspiring and refreshing. He’ll go where the Truth leads him.
My Catholic faith was strengthened within this conversation (still have a lot of woah in the faith). Thanks all you three and Welcome home in advance Cameron!
Love Dr. Scott Hahn! he really is a gift from above..
Wow! This guy is a super bright young man! I’ve come to except that being overly bright is not a burden I walk through life with! I was confirmed March 5th 2022! I have absolutely fallen in love with Jesus’s Church! I’ve been a Protestant for 20+ years, and it’s taking me that long to cross the Tiber. Prayers that this man can find what I found! Keith Nester to Scott Hahn, to Steve Ray to Pat Madrid! And to my good friend Dawn through every day conversations, planting the seeds. My list could go on and on… I’d really like to see how this turns out. Happy Easter Brothers and Sisters
Praying and fasting for your pursuit of Truth, Cameron Bertuzzi
I've been a Catholic (converted at 45) and Francis has brought up so many questions, so listening to you guys was so very helpful!
I'm still a Catholic despite of confusions caused by Francis Bergoglio. May our the Holy Spirit help us.
Just remember it’s Christ’s Church not Pope Francis’. The Holy Spirit leads and works for good through the Office of Peter. We must pray for the Pope & always view him with charity. ✝️🙏❤️✝️
Cameron's vulnerability and Scott's grace and patience and ease of explanations is golden and a real blessing to watch.
I am an inquirer and relate to Cameron on many different planes.
I went to my first EO Divine Liturgy on Christmas in ‘22, then my first Holy Mass this past Holy Thursday and then a Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy on Pascha.
I grew up Charismatic and went off the deep end into New Age and have watched many of my friends deconstruct faith out of their life completely.
I came back to the Lord in 2017 and now find myself dissatisfied in the Protestant church and longing to partake in the Eucharist.
This podcast alone has given me so much to think about and answered so many questions and concerns I’ve had about becoming Catholic and the debate in my head over Catholic vs Orthodox.
Thank you Matt for hosting this!
Pretty sure this helped me decide to become Catholic.
I do really like Cameron’s humility. I’ve watched him do some discussions and he is very charitable. I can relate to him with having to do research because it’s a huge decision and ultimately your soul is at stake. I was received into the Catholic church this past Saturday at the Easter Vigil. It was a beautiful special moment. I’m actually glad you’re doing your research because I have faith that you will get to the right conclusion. Whatever that is for you.
Cameron, while I have great appreciation for the inquisitive nature of the journey you are on, don’t get too caught up in your own personal numbers, methods and metrics. Faith can be discerned, but not analyzed, nor measured, at least not to the satisfaction of a mere mortal, like you and I. “Blessed is he who has not seen, but believes.”
What a very good advice Mary. Faith is from conviction in the heart and not the calculations from the head.
Read Surprised by Truth by Patrick Madrid. Start praying the rosary (all biblical). Holy Spirit will do rest in no time. God bless!!
I am being confirmed on Saturday and I am only about p=0.51 on the Papacy, so I think it's time for Cameron to convert.
@Evan Jaax is the episode from PWA?
The Easter Vigil - what a glorious time to be confirmed! Congratulations! Come, Holy Spirit!!
Dr. Hahn just has an amazing way with words. Just so fluid, concise, smooth, and charming. I personally think he’s a better speaker than writer! Thank the Lord for the work that this man has done for the church.
You are so right can't tell you how I enjoy listening to his podcasts on a road trip.
Dr. Scott Hahn arguably the best theologian, Jimmy Akin arguably the best apologetic... God bless our Catholic faith 🙏
And I would humbly add that Peter Kreeft is the best Catholic philosopher, story teller, and poet!
@@Eserr7856 good one 👍
Dr Hahn is such an elegant, humble and eloquent way of expressing himself that is a pleasure listening to him. The Spirit has greatly blessed the Church by guiding him home
And that’s what a masterclass from a true theological heavyweight looks like. So winsome!
And honestly, kudos to Cameron for his intellectual and spiritual integrity and honesty. This whole conversation was a delight to listen to!
Dr. Hahn and Matt.. from the very bottom of my heart, I love you guys....
Cameron. God bless on your journey
I love listening to Dr Hahn because every time he explains anything an enormous light comes on.
Absolutely wonderful, I could have listened to that for hours. Such kindness, it almost moved me to tears.
Im already crying, such a delight and blessing.
Thank you Matt! Wonderful interview! I admire you all. You for being a devout catholic. Mr. Hahn for being a devout catholic and for opening our eyes. I really think that you will be declared a Saint one day. Cameron, I admire your humility. Come home.... you are only a few steps away.
Sigh. Dr. Hahn explains things so wonderfully (I was going to say beautifully but it’s more than that), I cry out of gratitude that I’m part of this Church. Ever since I’ve started watching Pints, I feel like I get hit with shockwaves of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Thank you for bringing such AMAZING speakers and honest seekers. Prayers for and blessings to all of you!
Dr Hahn, it is a great blessing for us that you do not speak in sound bytes but instead give exhaustive, well researched and profound explanations on matters of the Faith. It's like taking a class on theology. We learn so much more about our Catholic Faith which means our knowlegde of the Lord is deepened and therefore our love for God deepens as well. Please rest assured that you are doing invaluable service for Our Lord and His Church.
Scott Hahn - amazing grace . Your faith and knowledge of truth is endearing and infectious. Our hearts burn with in us . Thanks -
Beautiful! Thank you, Lord, for bringing Cameron along this journey, and letting us all watch and pray for him as he goes. And Cameron, keep walking along this road with Jesus! From the cross, Jesus gave you a mother: and she is Mary herself, and she is also the Church herself. You are not an orphan. You have a home, and it has rules for structure and good food for your life. So keep walking along this road, and know that God is running to meet you!
Wow! This discussion just made me feel so proud, so joyful and so confident to be a Catholic following the Church established by Jesus. Dr. Scott Hahn, once again you articulated all your points so well, with confidence, humility, without being forceful or condescending. The way you evangelize is a true example to me. Thank you for all that you do for our faith 🙏🏻
I found Cameron’s slip in 46:55 hilarious! I can’t imagine how much the Saints in Heaven rejoice when someone converts if seeing someone I don’t know being so close to the Truth gives me so much joy.
It's actually around the 46:45 mark, but, yes, it's a great slip of the tongue. I like that Dr. Hahn's eyebrows go up when he hears the mistake and then Cameron corrects himself. This tells me that he is much closer, whether it be consciously or subconsciously, to conversion than we may think. The Holy Spirit is at work. I just subscribed to his channel to watch the hammer drop.
Lol. One of us! One of us!
Bless his ❤.
This was a very very good conversation.
What a brilliant gifted teacher Dr. Hahn is. 💜
Thank you Dr Hahn, you are such a blessing to the Catholic faith.
I've been watching Journey thru Lent over and over again. Please have some more programs we can watch.
Check out the St. Paul Center. It is Scott Hahn’s ministerial organization. Lots of books, video series on the Bible in Catholicism, and more. He is one of my go-to guys for Catholicism! Another is Dr. David Anders who has a show on EWTN, Called to Communion with David Anders. He is also a convert to Catholicism and brilliant!
I adore listening to Dr. Hahn speak. His explanation, especially as a new convert myself (thanks be to God!), makes the Catholic Church so much easier to understand, while also giving me an ability to appreciate the complexity and continuity within the Church. Absolutely love him.
I came in at the last 20 minutes or so, and if they were any indication of what preceded it, this was an absolute treat.
That boy Cameron finna be Catholic in the next few months FOR SURE!! Scott Hahn is one of the greatest instruments of the Catholic faith. Praise be to God ❤️🙏🏻
Cameron, when, not if, you become Catholic it would be wonderful to hear your findings on your way back home 😊. Can't wait to welcome you!
What a beautiful conversation. A very graceful dance between the expression of love and intellect
I'm currently non-denominational.
Let's put some extra pressure on Cameron.
If he converts to Catholicism then I will also convert 👌
Maybe.
It's time to come home, brother.
@@phrikaphrak40k We are Home!
@@davidjanbaz7728 I wonder where it says in scripture that the Roman Catholic Church is home. I can’t seem to find it
@@Wgaither1 Doesn’t really have to. Use ur faith and reasoning to figure it out.
@@Wgaither1 - welcome ‘home’ as in ‘dwelling place of the Lord’! And a feeling of peace and love with Christ! Home is the place you go back to with family. We have a loving family in Saints, angels, Jesus and fellow living brothers and sisters in Christ!
God bless you in your faith and understanding!
Cameron's method of analysis is very intriguing, as someone who returned to the Church after studying physics. However, I'm kind of hoping it ends up at exactly 50%. Praying for him!
I believe Cameron will join the Church!
Dr.Hahn is amazing. Love listening to his knowledge on Catholicism.
He certainly is! Very eloquent and speaks with clarity.
Always a pleasure and insightful to listen to Dr. Hahn. So much knowledge and wisdom.
This was awesome. I was raised in the Lutheran Church (LCMS) and converted to Catholicism in 1983 at the age of 22. Was a path much like the one Toothless draws in the sand in How To Train Your Dragon :-)
I just LOVE you three. Seeing you chatting together is just beyond words‼️👏 Greetings from Switzerland🇨🇭
This is amazing. Some (rough) notes I made:
The Davidic line is like the Old Testament version of the papacy. It starts with David, then over time there are twelve head leaders, but one is the prime leader. There are twelve leaders Solomon appoints, there are twelve leaders Jesus appoints.
God loves family, He himself being the head of the Holy Trinity, Jesus being part of the trinity of the supernatural, and the holy family (with Mary and Joseph) in the natural. Christ is the connerstone, Peter is the rock, the apostles also are rocks but to a lesser degree than Peter, and we all are stones of the holy temple. You know a man by his fruits, you do not know the church by the faith of a man, but the Saints point to the faith of the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith.
Bad popes? Look at Peter, he denied Christ three times, look at the Davidic line Jesus comes from, there was all kinds of sin in that line. Not to say having bad popes is no big deal, but it is not an argument against the whole of the Catholic faith. "Look not upon our sins but on the faith of Your Church".
Isaiah 22= Mathew 16. Strong connection.
God told David
“I will build u a throne and it will last forever”
3000yrs later the pope sits on a throne
quote-- Peter is the rock, the apostles also are rocks - unquote
quote the Bible that tells of anyone saying Peter is THE ROCK!!!
-----quote the Bible that says the apostles are are also rockes.
>>>quote---Jesus being part of the trinity of the supernatural, and the holy family (with Mary and Joseph). unquote
Quote the Bible that places Mary and or Joseph in the Godhead.
----quote--- one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith. unquote
Quote that term from the Bible!!!
----quote-- Mathew 16--unquote
Why do insist on taking that out of context??
Read verses 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist*: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Jesus asked them a question which Peter was able to answer due to the revelation to him by GOD!!!
verse 20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
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I left Catholicism for a time and “ explored” other branches of Christianity but there was a drawing back to the Church Christ founded Jesus will never leave you. Not forcing you but in love correcting you back to the Fold
Jesus did not found His church at Rome nor with a papacy.
@@Justas399 We will certainly take your word on that!! 😉
@@atgred the New Testament supports me.
@@Justas399 Yeah right! Your version of your New Testament.
@@atgred it’s the New Testament of the Christian Church.
For 1 hour each morning I use several parts of Hallow. Daily Gospel, Daily Saint, Sunday Homilies by Bishop Baron & Father Mike, music, the rosary ,daily reflections by Jeff Cavins,morning psalms read by Bishop Barron.
I’m watching this on the first Sunday of Advent 2022, shortly after Cameron announced he is studying to enter the Roman Catholic Church. Truly a blessing!
God guide and protect Cameron and his family!
Bayesian analysis. Wow. I had to look it up. I had to thank the Lord that it was His decision to make me a heart person, and I didn’t come to faith by questions of intellectual points. But I also had to thank Him that He decided Cameron should be such a (deeply humble) head person so the rest of us could be strengthened by just how rational God is. It’s just glory all around, which is very good for me, a heart person. Thank you, Cameron, Scott, Matt, Trent, Jimmy, and all the others working on this beautiful project! I love the way God made you so fearfully and wonderfully.
thank you for giving light on the connection of popes to how Jesus prayed for Peter Dr. Scott Hahn. Thank you Matt for having him on this show. Amazing how God works in Cameron's life ~ sweeeeet Jesus! ❤
Thank you Matt and Scott for the truly valuable and persuasive discourse on Catholicism and the Papacy! This was very enlightening and helps me to know how to form my own arguments when confronting those from other religions who start to “argue” with me regarding Catholicism!
Scott Hahn is like taking a sip from a fire hydrant as I think I’ve heard him mention his family and student describe him as. The look on their faces when he stops talking is exactly what my face looks like. What a gems we have in Scott and Kimberly Hahn.
Great conversations. Always enriching listening to Dr Scott. Looking forward to many more of such discussions. Prayers 🙏
Scott Hahn is brilliant, God bless him.
This has to be one of your best episodes Matt!! Dr Hahn is incredibly bless to have so much wisdom and knowledge and how gently and tenderly he responded to all the objections, you gotta bring him back!!! Cameron’s time will come that the Holy Spirit will reveal to him the truth bc we don’t follow man, we follow Christ and the church He founded, God bless you all! 🙏🏼🙌🏻❤️
So insightful to say “tender”
Scott Hahn is just incredible to listen to. So intelligent!
Cameron’s shirt is just so good. It’s soft, yet bold and abrasive in its truth. I can imagine that upsetting people in a silent way. Reminiscent of the slick slogans on tshirts of our generation that say “no one cares”. It kicks people back a bit and at least in my friend group, that statement is pretty radical and ruffles a lot of feathers.
Cameron - I love love love how you only interject when necessary. That is a great trait as an interviewer. In other words, you make the interview about the interviewee and not the interviewer. Kudos to you for thus.
God bless Scott Hahn. I'm thankful for this conversation so I can hear the wisdom through his mouth.
Regarding doctrine often not being formally defined until there is a controversy, that's true of many disputes even outside of religion. Law is that way. Laws don't get created until there is a problem to solve. Say it's a law against something. It doesn't mean that the behavior in question wasn't wrong before the law. It doesn't mean the behavior in question wasn't universally recognized as wrong before the law was made. It just means that no one saw a need to define the issue into law until there was a controversy or issue surrounding it.
Cameron is so genuine and kind. What a beautiful heart.
I was born Catholic and went to Catholic school and I questioned if the Catholic Church was the one true church. After listening to Scott and others like him on the C.D’s I realize I was so lucky to be baptized in the one true church. Now I am looking at the traditional Latin masses and the S.S.P.X church.
Check out Reason & Theology on the SSPX, they're a good Catholic UA-cam channel and the host is a convert from Eastern Orthodoxy.
@Lit123ful. The SSPX is still schismatic. Please look for a parish that is reverent. Scott Hahn attends a TLM but not the SSPX.
Be careful with S.S.P.X because I think they aren’t in full communion with Rome
@@apologeticasanmiguelarcangel Well said ! But I don't know why your comment is deleted.
@@jeremiahong248 it’s deleted? I can see it. It’s weird
Scott Hahn and this discussion sets me on fire
I haven't listened to the episode yet, but I'm here to say that I love your show and I usually listen to the interviews while I'm cooking and eating breakfast - which is the best time of the day, imo.
Scott Hahn is amazing and part of the beauty of the Catholic faith.