Triumph Speed 400 vs Royal Enfield Hunter 350 & Classic 350 - Royal Challenger? | Autocar India
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- Bajaj has been absolutely clear that it wants to steal away Royal Enfield customers with the new Triumph Speed 400. So we just had to bring the Triumph together with its closest Royal Enfield rivals - the Hunter 350 and Classic 350. Rishaad Mody compares and contrasts the trio.
Camerapersons: Mrityunjay Chakraborty, Roshni Manghani
Editor: Siddhesh Kadam
0:00 - Introduction
0:20 - Why this comparison?
1:11 - Other potential rivals
1:37 - Engine specifications
2:02 - Riding experience
4:32 - Performance and economy
5:04 - Riding positions and ergonomics
6:19 - Suspension comfort
7:00 - Handling
7:43 - Design and desirability
9:22 - Summing it up and prices
10:28 - Picking the right bike
11:30 - BTS
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Just remember guys, loyalty to any company is idiotic. Choose what you want, not what others chose 😉
Bro you just triggered RE fanbois😂😂😂
I think the main competitor to the Triumph is actually the Honda CB300R.
Triumph: more power. more performance. more style.
RE: better than its previous version.😕
Not including 440x is brutal
It doesn't belong here
Folks! We'll compare the Harley X440 with rivals as soon as the test bikes are available!
Also, there are a couple of errors in the spec sheets:
The correct 0-60kph time for the Classic 350 is 5.25s and the same for the Hunter 350 is 4.95s.
The rows for brake and tire information are also interchanged. The errors are regretted.
Apologies for the errors!
Must say very quick to come out with comparison. Triumph 400 seems to be onto something really big. It is so far ahead in terms of performance and yet so close in terms of price and fuel economy that it’s inconceivable that a substantial chunk of RE customers don’t consider it seriously. Add to that the finishing and quality that is a notch above. One wonders why Hunter couldn’t have been upgraded to the levels of Speed 400? Or maybe now RE will come out with a new bike to cover that territory. All in all, happy days are here again for the bike lovers!
I am an RE CLASSIC 350 REBORN user. I've booked Speed. Just the bike I was looking for since very long time. So, I've already considered it :) Happy riding!
Speed 400 has a strong buff look like the old Ducati Monster.
Looks Perfectly Proportional!
Seems the RE is in for trouble now, can see a lot of people who have around 2L looking around and deciding they can raise budget to get something vastly superior!
In the age of modern highways , people who plan for highway riding should look for motorcycles that can safely lane change and overtake at 100 kph speeds . Acceleration matters and one of the safety aspect when it comes to avoiding accidents.
You are absolutely right with the first sentence. I ride my classic 350 on weekends in city traffic when going to a mall or a movie, but when riding back home, some of the road stretches are quite open and that is when I get bored of going too slow and Lazy. Having the lowkey power just to pull off while maintaining a low profile is very suitable for me.
Speed 400 is what hunter wanted to be 😂
RE fanboys be like " RE can't be compared, RE is a feeling" yeah bro and that feeling is misery
I'm a short guy and I bought a Hunter 350 a few days before S400 was announced. Although the S400 is quite impressive, I don't regret my decision cuz I needed a new bike immediately which I got and I'm very happy with my bike so far. Also, I'd personally wait and observe Triumph's performance and service quality for sometime in India before buying their bike.
But I'm mighty excited and impressed to see all these new bikes being launched in India, hopefully the Indian bike market will have way more options in the next 5 years in the 200-400cc segment!
Good to see Honda CB350 not included here to determine which is the second best bike in this segment.
As an engineer my one cent take is:-
Triump has 4 valve while the rest of bikes has 2 valve.
4 valve are efficient at high speed/frequency hence high performance at top end
While 2 valve are inefficient at hight speed.
Generally 4 valves are used in expensive bikes, but now they sell at comparable price with harly or re,
I think triump is way superior.
Like 2 core cpu vs 4 core are way different even though they have same architecture.
We want Royal Enfield vs Harley Davidson vs Triumph,
I would love to watch it.
This Bajaj Triump reminds me of how East India company used Indians to Conquer India. British haven't changed. 😂
Will this affect the cb350 market 🤔. Considering it was the only bike which actually gave a tough competition to RE , with its refined engine, reliability and decent service.
Triumph and Harleys new machines may have good standards but they still have to be evaluated on reliability and after market service, which are one of the key factors for a hassle free experience.
I own RE classic 500, booked Speed 400 too. I am also one among 10,000 customers. So it makes me even more happy.
The Triumph Speed 400 is probably the best single Bike Garage option in the market currently... amazing
Royal Enfield slow yet feels good like smooth yoga
But triumph is fast hungry and very eager
Imo s400 will eat sales of interceptor too. I personally booked a int650 alloys, i cancelled the same day s400 came. The onroad of int 650 is nearly 1 lakh more. Being a really middle class corporate guy when i compared both i found i can have 90% of the fun of int 650 at 1 lakh less. Also after considering maintainance like tyre change, oil change, chain, brake pads etc atleast a single cylinder won't burn my pockets that much. But i would say choosing s400 over re 350s, cb 350s would be a no brainer for me.. I wish i had a bigger package so that i could afford 650. But thats the story of middle class guys. Ps i know i can pay emis but not taking any kindof debts has been running in my family since beginning 😂
That kind of performance with almost similar economy figures seals the deal for me!!
I am new RE classic owner and content so far. But I do feel Bajaj-Triumph brought the heat to its competitors and it would be really intriguing how other brands will try to match this. Such KO punch was required given for the fact that no other bikes offer things like speed400. Excellent content!
A summary of the comments in case you don't have the time to read them -
Those that own Enfields perferred them.
Those that don't own Enfields didn't.
Everyone asked for other comparison videos which will no doubt come when those bikes are availble to Autocar.
My summary; all 3 bikes are good choices depending on your needs, and the video was enjoyable.
Would also love to know how it compares to the bigger RE 650s as an overall experience. Does the lure of a twin cylinder exceed the way the packages come together? (which is currently- not very well on the Interceptor vis-a-vis the Speed 400, which is definitely the more finished article)
We need a comparison between Classic 350, Cb350/ cb350rs, speed 400 and Harley 440
I own a 2019 Classic signals. 40k kms. And my bike feels fresh. Its so friendly. Apart from taking from point A to B i spend a lot more time playing with the bike. I disassembled and re assembled entire bike during the lockdown, now im riding the bike with single seat. Ive changes the tail light unit to the classic reborn, and with bar end mirrors now it got some killer looks. i ve met with an horrible accident and got out without a single scratch on me. Which i can confidently say any other bike i wont be alive by now. Even today the happiness i feel while on road is something cant be explained in words. I never found issues with vibration in my bike. Its actually very minimal wch i feel to be right amount that it kind of makes me feel more connected to the bike.
The Classic and Hunter combined sell over 40,000 units per month. The Highness and RS combined sell 4,000 units per month. In terms of sales, Triumph 400 twins will be comparable to the Highness and RS and not the RE. They might eat into RE sales slightly but dont expect the Triumph twins to sell more than 5,000 units per month (thats the production capacity too as said by Mr. Bajaj)
Yes I don't know why reviewers don't take riding feel and engine character into consideration. This is how the comparo should be:
1. RE350 vs Honda CB350 vs X440
2. Speed 400 vs KTM 390 vs CB300R vs Dominar 400
I think Triumph are being cautious to start with. It is after all their 1st bike in this segment. However Bajaj has said that 5000 is the starting capacity, with a huge amount more available if sales demand it. Triumph are also tooling up 2 of their factories for the 400. I am sure RE will be taking this new platform very very seriously.
but you need to consider that Speed had 10000 units sold within 10days
As a rider (short rider) i was confused between r15, hunter, and ronin i am now sure that triumph is the one I want to own
Great comparison...
Like the bts in the end😅 lets have more of it😂
@AutoCar Comparison, this soon , you guys are awesome!!! 👏 . . .Thankyou for helping potential buyers like us with comparo video, loved it . . . looking forward to test ride Triumph 400 🤠
Rather than putting a classic you should have got Honda CB350 and dominar
Reviewers don't normally have to deal with service cost, parts availability/cost, aftermarket support, and daily convenience especially just going to the shops / office
KTM does not even have shims to adjust valves in their service centers, enfield you can do it yourself at home.
Generally Enfield makes more sense if its your own bike
it woul be a good to see comparison with the other roadsters in the same segment- BMW G310R, Duke 390, CB 350R and the Dominar 400. The accelaration and the road feel.
Hunter 350 is looking so gorgeous among these 3 bikes. But my pocket can afford honda shine. 😅
plzzz compare hdx440 and triumph speed400
The S400 being far ahead was no brainer. I am more curious to know where X440 stands compared to the CL350. Sure, design is a mix bag, but how does it feel on the road in comparison. Can it be a alternative worth considering? Pls do let us know :)
Thanks for an excellent review and very well thought through commentary! Not having to translate due your English commentary was also appreciated and made for a much more accurate assessment. So... for classic looks, it has to be the Classic. But for everything else, the Triumph.
These bikes will all be sold internationally, and the problem with bikes whose maximum speed is around 110 - 120 km/hr is that in many countries the open road speed limit will be between 100 - 130 km/hr. If one wishes to not be blown off the road by a passing large truck, it's important to be able to cruise comfortably with no mechanical strain, at the posted speed limit. Accordingly in international markets, I'd say the natural competitor to the new Triumph will be the BMW G310 R and the KTM Duke 390. However, even the little G310R BMW is a little down on power for open road cruising at the speed limit, so that narrows it down even more perhaps, to between the new Triumph and the KTM Duke 390 Imho. Thanks again for a great video review!
Nice video. Cheerful and full of facts. A battle of the bests. ❤
the triumph is unbelievable roadster. the power and features and attention to detail at price is 🔥🔥
Me a hunter owner about to watch the video fully knowing that we’re not winning this 😭 I love it tho
Both seem to be great bikes, I don't think you can loose either way.
That was fast 😮. Didn’t expect the comparison video so soon. Autocar seems to be very keen to disperse the RE market 😂. Jokes aside I think the Speed 400 is leagues ahead in performance and refinement, especially coming from a RE loyal like me you can feel the disappointment 😢. But kudos to the Bajaj-Triumph collaboration they have really created a true masterpiece. This should be an eye opener for RE to ensure that the upcoming Himalayan 450 and other offerings have to fight for their place 👍
Why didn't you include the Harley Davidson X440 in the comparison .
We want a comparison video between Harley and other bikes .
What a time to be alive. Some of the greatest brands and bikes competing for value proposition when they are at the best of their game.
What a time to be alive
rev matching at 3.44? Hows the feel ?
Anyday Royal Enfield 650 twins and Honda Hness 350 are two gems that exist today.
Do a comparison between Triumph Speed 400 and honda cb300r and duke 250 performance figures are closely matched here
Please make a comparison video on Re hunter, Honda 350rs, yesdi scrambler, triumph Speed 400, TVS Ronin, HD 440x,
This bike can be a game changer, it is launched at lower than we expected. For 2.3 lakhs it sounds a terrific deal.
Classic 350 looks too much retro when parked near the other 2 bikes.
Hey your reviews are bang on so perfect
Very nicely sorted and differentiated
Cheers 👍🏻
Bloopers at the end are fun & refreshing to watch
Watching Autocar a joy every time ❤❤
RE Classic 350 and Bullet 350 has loyal customers, mostly 35-55 age group. All these newer machines Triumph 400, RE Hunter, HD x440 may attract younger crowd 25-35 age group. There's no competition to Classic 350 at present.
Honda Highness 350 ?
Great comparison. I would agree that the classic 350 buyers won't be deterred by Speed 400 just yet. Rest of the competition can pretty much be sweeped by this bike. If Triumph brings in more models on the same platform with Thruxton, Bonneville or Street/Trident that's where the market is totally disrupted. Expecting good response from RE and other brands as well. So in the end the gainers are the consumers.
In just 2-3 years, Re is launching maybe 4-5 450cc liquid cooled engine to the market starting with Himalayan 450. I think that will be direct competition to triump in terms of performance. Looking forward 🔥
True
Wanna bet? Those are are gonna be heavy as hell. The RE450 platform seems to be dated already. It's been one long wait. What Triumph is going to do is make RE eliminate all those unnecessary products and only keep the ones that have an ardent fan following. Like the Classic and the Himalayan. No matter how advanced of a bike you bring at this price RE fanboys won't budge
I am waiting for RE a hunter like miracle with the 450 scram
Even after 3-4 years, RE will be playing the catching up game with Triumph in terms of technology and engine refinement.
after facing countless royal enfield frauds both from sales and service centre , finally i can say a worthy opponent has arrived....today i would only buy vintage RE bikes as they are easy to maintain and keep their values...
How about a comparison of triumph 400 with RE twins ?
Excellent review 👍🏼.
Add Honda CB 350
Exactly the comparison we wanted!!
Can I opted normal mirror on speed 400??
Best sum up ever👍👍
Triumph scrambler 400x ,when it will be launch in india ?
Perfect comparison 👌
Would love to see a comparison with cb 300r
I feel the competition is only between speed 400 and classic 350 in the entire market of this segment. Even though their character is completely different, they are the best bikes you can get for that money. My heart says classic, mind says speed, I would have surely gone for triumph if they built another version with bonville (more classic) styling
Great review. The only thing missing was harley x440
Autocar reviews never disappoint.
Good review as always Rishaad and team :)
Where is HD X440????
It must be there coz it'll make good competition as Cruiser/roadster from US based Brand
@autocar can you bring in the interceptor as well to the comparison between the triumph and the Duke.
Can u also add Bajaj Dominar 400 when u compare it with X440 pls?
Triumph 400 is like a mouth-watering exquisite delicacy we cant shop everywhere..
What were the speeds you got those economy figures?
Should I wait for triumph 250 or go with hunter as my budget is less than 2 lacs
Expected Harley vs triumph vs classic
When ktm released the 390 it was priced very competitively but gradually increased the price in the coming years.....I think triumph will also increase the price of their new bikes....
I am eager to know how much triumph's first service may cost.....
Should had also compared with cb350
It's about who pays them , LOL
Triumph vs dominar vs BMW vs ktm is a must comparison and most avaited also
Please check 7:43 seconds. Data in table in incorrectly placed.
Very balanced review…i guess we have a bike for every need now🎉🎉
excellent review... and honest
Please compare RE to HD440 in the field of laid back riding.
I'm from Sikkim ,trying to book the triumph but I'm not able to do so. I contacted the Bajaj showroom here but from there also they have no clear idea about the booking of this triumph bike.
Back in the day, Bajaj created history by launching KTM, an unknown brand, into Indian shores and it became a smash success overnight. Today, it has become a household name, so much so that it completely dethroned Pulsar to become the country's most sought after sports bike.
Of course, Bajaj could not repeat the success story with Husqvarna. Time will tell what becomes of Triumph, but right now it seems like Bajaj is on the right track. Yes, it is disappointing that Triumph completely stole Harley's thunder.
Do you think speed 400 can be a competitor to Interceptor 650?
The new j series is most souless royal Enfield ever made
I buy a Royal Enfield classic 350 in 2021.
And I have Some problem with that bike like Sensor,Vibration (after 60 kilometres it is so much vibrating) ect, Comparing to the previous years bike it is short also.
How can you say RE is good Bikes & one of the top selling bikes?
A comparison video between Dominar 400 and Speed 400 please
Pls include honda cb350 too
Awaited Bike + Rishaad Modi + Auto car review = Always pleased ❤😊
And the zontes 350 too..though it's expensive it comes with amazing ride qwality
Triumph vs Harley vs Classic
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You might want to correct the tyre size and brake size slides. The titles are swapped :)
Amazing ✌️
Speed 400 lacks one very important feature, NO DUAL HORN. You need a loud horn in India.
I wish the India spec bike got front mudguard & tail section like the euro spec one.
I own a Classic 350 Reborn Chrome Bronze. Retro looks with modern technology.