EFNOTE 7X First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Today we're taking look at the brand new EFNOTE flagship, the 7X! It's so new that it hasn't reached stores yet, but I got an early look at it during the NAMM convention. There's also a brand new app called EFNOTE Tools that I'll cover as well.
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Im a music producer (guitarist / bassist) not a drummer, but I love electronic drum kits and tried quite a few. The other day I Tested the Roland VAD 50 right next to a efnote 7. I was quite impressed by the efnote. Everything felt right. Sound, feeling, response, triggering and so on. I prefer it over the VAD. The efnote is a full size birch wood drumset, very sturdy and you can swap pads and go fully acoustic if you want to. Artesia is a company formed by former Roland employees, I think they know what they are doing.
Awesome review once again, brother!
Another quality review, cheers!
lawd she's beautiful oh my
I like the look of the kit too
Great vid Justin!
Justin. Great first impression. Thanks! Really looking forward to any news on Roland and drum tec, if you have any.
From what I heard, the module has by FAR the best cymbal sounds I've ever heard.
I think they sound very natural
Positives and negatives taken into account, this is a really impressive lineup for their first sets out of the gate.
In March I got a VAD 506 so im not going to be in the market for a while, but I am very interested to see how they progress.
How's the 506 treating you? I've been eyeing it.
@@everthealtruist It is great but I still haven't decided if its greatness equals the price paid for it. I did add the VH14 hi hats as well and again, while they are great, I'm not sure if they are $$xx amount great
@@jamessullenriot Yea, that’s a lot of money. They also look like they take up a bit more space than a lot of ekits.
If efnote add a digit ride snare and hi hat then they’re gonna be giving Roland a serious run for their money
ThAnks Justin!!! Nailed it again ❤️
Thanks Starr! Glad you enjoyed it
Great review!
I cant even play with my friends e-kit, i think its crazy you can sit down at any kit with any height toms/cymbals and any heads and pound that shit out like its your own. really shows your talent as a drummer. Thanks for the insight on the 7X, but i'm here for the drumming ;)
Seems like a great drum kit overall.
I really like your videos - very informative. I want to get a higher end e-kit and was siding with the ef note 7. All I want is a good solid kit to play at home to build my chops back up. Are the cymbals digital?
best looks and sounds in e drumming in my opinion
excellent breakdown.
@Text me+①(⑤⓪⑦)⑦⑤②④②⑨④ looks like a scam... clone of his channel but no content.
I bought that 20 inch ride for Strike a couple of weeks..... It's beyond great!!!!!!!
Did it make a substantial difference over the stock ride other than size?
Hey Justin! Nice Meeting you at NAMM! You got some serious chops dude; 10:50-10:58 that's a cool jam. Nice Review.
Tim (gmbydmit)
Would like your recommendation on the best value in a electronic drum kit for live use. Whether used or new. So spending the least amount of money and getting reliability, play ability and good module sounds that will go into the PA left and right. Don't care about looks, just best bang for the buck that does the job. Thanks in advance and love the channel. Definitely the best electronic drum channel out there.
Very happy to see another rack tom size added to the black finish.
I’m using efnote drums with a Pearl mimic and they work perfectly
Do the hi hats work with the mimic pro?
@@raws944 no
I'm sold on Efnote since the 5 series. I'll save up for them.
I just got this drum set and it feels amazing to play it was about 5200 to buy
I own the 14“ snare with atv cymbals und combination with the mimic pro. As today, Its the best edrum on the market
Such a beautiful drum set, likely gonna go with the 7 though cause the white sparkle is even better imo
I agree, the white sparkle is gorgeous. I really like the drum sizes of the 7, it looks just perfect.
I have the 7. It's great.
Really cool
I had to listen for a few seconds and squeeze my eyes a little to realize it was an e-drum set...!!!! I was 100% convinced it was some system of triggering/micking coupled with a Yamaha kit. Accept some harmonics, it's so close that it scares me :O Also I actually do like to play ghost notes with my fingers sometimes so the fact they've included that is crazzzzzy cuz that's like a circa 1930 technique that jazz drummers used to do a long time ago! The price makes a lot of sense to me, and makes Roland seems like the Apple of e-drums IMHO
Hey man! Is really good to watch your videos! I am in the market for a good acoustic looking electric drum set. As of right now, would you say this one is the best one on that category? I don't really care that much for module, as I use EZD3 and SPD3. Or would be cheaper to buy a Tama Starclassic Drumset and convert it to Electric? If I buy an acoustic drum to convert, it could be a 6 piece and it would be either Tama Starclarric or a good looking Mapex. Can you help on this situation?
What's the lowest latency module and best triggering kit combo you've tried?
Great review Justin. Just curious to note whether the HI-Hat has to be played with the Efnote module, or whether this could be powered separately. Similarly, do the other cymbals work with other modules ?
As of right now the EFNOTE hihats only work with EFNOTE modules
Drum factory direct in the US sells 11 inch drum hoops I’ve bought quite a few 11 inch drum heads on eBay you’d be surprised 15 inch heads also still available
Weird question but is 17" also available? I'm looking at a weird drum set made of converted marching Ludwig drums and the kick is 17" which I've never seen before, but it's like half the price of a vintage Ludwig and much better construction since they're marching drums, so if the heads are available I'd probably pull the trigger on it!
Hi, nice review.
A question:
is it very noisy? do you think it can create problems for the neighborhood without adequate soundproofing of the room? certainly decoupling the floor using a floating platform solves the problem related to vibrations, but I wonder if this is enough since the mesh skins and rubber cymbals produce a sound that travels through the air as well as transmitted through contact with the floor (which can be solved with the floor floating)
E drums are never going to loud enough to be a "neighborhood" problem, but if you're in an apartment they may bother people who share a wall or floor/ceiling with you. But as long as your neighbors aren't really picky it will probably be fine to play during the day even in an apartment, without any soundproofing whatsoever.
It's very quiet on any flooring.
Would love to try one of these. Although i'm concerned about the fact that the kit looks too wobbly. I'd like to see a more solid rack version.
Agree. I would probably change the snare and tom stand.
Sounds so much better than Roland's trash sounds. And I own a VAD506.
I had the opportunity to play the set at the local music store. I don't like the module very much, as it is quite sluggish. They call it a touchscreen but I had to "touch" the screen like 3x before the display finally responded. I also didn´t like the module-sounds. On the other hand the whole kit looks awesome and the triggers are very good.
What about the ATV aDRUM-set as a competitor?
Whose snare is better? The Roland Digital snare or the EfNote? Cheers!
I noticed that the 'expressiveness' is different when comparing kits on the efnote website. What does that even mean? is that something that is noticeable? does it mean it has fewer sensors or something?
1:27 the 13x13 floor tom being slightly angled away from the other floor tom is driving me crazy lol!
Sorry dude, I set that stuff up in a hurry. Didn't have loads of time to get everything perfectly level for the OCD drummers out there ;)
@@65Drums 👍🏻😂
Bro please review lemon drums..
I actually think this sounds more natural than the VAD. I guess at the price range Efnote may need to update the digital aspect of the drum to meet the competition because for 5000 dollars, that is hefty cost and the gear should be live ready and capable.
I bought the efnote 7 to replace the ROLAND TD 30 in live shows, unfortunately I could not try it before buying it but I based on the sounds heard in the demonstration videos and I was undecided between EFnote7 or ROLAND TD50, the drums is very nice and solid but I am very disappointed with regards to the sounds (especially snare, toms, ) , which apparently sound good but if heard from a P.A. I don't know how to explain they seem weightless because in my case I should often play on pre-recorded bases and sequences the sounds of this module lack body and do not blend perfectly with the pre-recorded bases, perhaps because a sound compression is missing, however not the I find it suitable for my live use and for now I will still use my ROLAND TD30 module which is perfect the sounds are powerful and full bodied and the EFnote 7 I will use it only for studying .... I think I will resell it ...
A question: If you trigger a ghost note with your fingers in stead of a cross stick, does it miss the cross stick completely or do you mean that it just triggers a small ghost note immediately before the cross stick? If it just triggers an extra note but still triggers the cross stick then it's a non issue because that will happen on an acoustic drum as well, you will technically hit the head with your fingers and rattle the buzz wires which sounds similar to a very weak ghost note.
I have the ATV, same setup, it’s a non-issue. In fact it’s better than an acoustic kit as you can just trigger it with any sticking.
Thanks again Justin for very good review. You said that you use SSD plugin and so do I, I love the sounds. But I have had problems with the stability with Ableton live11. What daw do you use with SSD? And have you been happy with it?
I use Reaper, it's a super cheap DAW that works well and hasn't crashed on me
@@65Drums what I do is I load UA-cam drumless songs or Moises edits to the daw and record drums and guitar on top of it. Is reaper cool with that?
@@timolonnberg3205 Yeah it's just a standard DAW, it can do anything normal like that.
Thanks, I might consider Reaper then.
@@timolonnberg3205 There's an infinite free trial, just check it out. And if you like it after a week or two, spend the $70 to support the developers. And it it doesn't work for you, it was free to try it out
How does this compare to the new digital drums coming from GEWA?
I prefer EFNOTE over Gewa at the moment. I think Gewa is pricing their drums too high.
e-Drummers, I'd like to know your opinions. I'd like to buy a small kit like EFNOTE 7 with Superior Drummer 3. Which edrums brand / kit do you guys recommend? I can just think about Roland VAD504 or EFNOTE 7. I don't know anything about the others (ATV, GEWA, Alesis or drum-tec) because I can't try these in my region. What do you think?
I dont think either would be a bad choice. Especially if using SD3.
I personally would pick Roland because Ive been happy with all my Roland gear. But the efnote looks and seems to perform well triggering wise. I just havent played one.
The FX cymbal stax is gorgeous, but 15" floor tom... Good luck finding a spare mesh for that (At least I haven't seen one in my life)
Do you have any recommendations on drop clutch for the Roland VH- 11
THANKS
I bought one recently and it definitely helps with reducing the spin of the hihat but as I'm still learning double beaters.. I wouldn't consider myself proficient enough to know exactly how effective the drop feature is.. it definitely works but occasionally the pick up doesn't work as the hihat has turned and doesn't align and I have to spin it by hand to get it back in the right position while playing
What’s the difference between the x7 and the x5 ? Just the configuration or does sound also change
According to their website, the sound that comes out of the module is slightly better.
This video has left me feeling just as confused. I still don’t know what to get Efnote or VAD.
Does this work with the pearl mimic pro?
@Ed 🧐
Does it work as good as an Atv?.. like multi zone and stuff?.. sorry mate. I’m a noob to the world of e-kits.
I appreciate your reply and patience!
I played that set at the NAMM show... Very rich sounding but forgot to ask about brush drumming. Will it work for jazz drumming ?
Glad you got to play them, Ed! Here's an example of world-class jazz drumming on them ua-cam.com/video/gB4SwIRhusU/v-deo.html
If you play jazz with electronic kits, you don't deserve to play jazz.
These kits sound like toys. You can buy 3 nice kits for the price... and you can learn to play quietly for quiet settings... especially in jazz.
Come on, man..
These things suck... unless you want bleeps bloops and releasing samples...
@@morbidmanmusic It's not a war, let people have fun and the whole industry will be a better experience. Had great talks with Stevie Wonder, Jonathan Moffett, Steve Ferrone, Tris Imboden, Tony Royster Jr, Terri Lynn Carrington and Isaiah Fogle over the last two weeks, all of whom love these and see them as excellent instruments. What they all have in common is open-mindedness breeding their success. Regardless of who "deserves" what, we're all lucky to have the means to create, acquire and play musical instruments, so how about we drop the toxic bs about anyone trying something new, it's nonsense. I mean, you joined youtube in 2020 and have an anonymously named youtube account with nothing on it, c'mon... Michael
@@morbidmanmusic I've been play for 50 years...
@@edbergquist4745 Here you go, Ed! Just went up. ua-cam.com/video/dNoLarb4ms4/v-deo.html
The module does almost everything I wish the Ad5 did. But to your point, for the price …
Ha, I'm a lefty so i need to flip the kit around before I can play, I guess really tall people need to adjust the kit too. I think Justin is like, 10 feet tall...:)
From what you said, These Cymbals/Hi-Hat don't work with other drum modules ? Bummer if that's true.
All the cymbals are 3rd party compatible with Roland style modules except for the hihat
Which module is the best for someone like me who simply wants to plug and play- EFNOTE or ATV 3 or 5? Thanks!
Pearl Mimic Pro
@@JCReyesJCRACING Thanks JC. Mimic Pro is a bit out of my price range.
I’m in the market for another high end kit. I really like my Strike Pro SE which I will move to our rehearsal space. I only use 4 kits and hardly touch any of the settings other than changing out an instrument here and there so I want something simple as I like to just sit down and play and not deal with analysis paralysis. I’m leaning towards this kit for that reason. My one hangup though is not having individual outputs. I haven’t needed that yet with the Strike but I can see that being useful when we start playing out. Or maybe that isn’t that important. Any thoughts from the community on that?
It does 4 channel analog out, which is plenty for any club.
@@listener84 Thank you! Good to know!
Please, desperately waiting for a test of the 20” ride against the digital 18” from Roland
They are both great man, pretty much what I say in my video about the ATV 18" vs the Roland CY18 applies here too. Roland might be ever so slightly "better" but it only works with 3 modules in the entire world right now
I wonder if they used that connector because jack wasnt enough for the hihat cymbal or because they didnt want others to use it.
The 6 pin DIN is to eliminate an extra needed power source to the multi-optical sensed hi hats.
I think Ef note should make an adapter to separate the trigger and controller to TRS cables and power to a separate power socket to enable use of these hats on other modules. It would be a cheap way to increase component sales.
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica thats a legit reason
@@ArtesiaProNorthAmerica it seems if you could make an adaptor to use with other modules you would sell a ton of hihats. They seem to perform very well.
@@johndef5075 The optical system we've created includes hardware, as well as soft/firmware. It's a system, just as the Digital Roland hats are a system meant to be used within our system. We are selling a ton of hi hats and are working at improving our existing hats.
It’s a bummer, this kit seems really sick, but it seems like it’s just lacking too significantly at that price range. For me personally. I like having those individual outs for that precise level of control, in mixing.
I agree. I like to record at higher sample rates. I'm guess the USB out is only 44.1k. I want to use my gear to record it. It needs 8 analog outs. To me the kits in this are engineered very well.
These kits look great, but WHAT is that module?! It looks like a PalmPilot from the 90s. I'd mostly use this over midi with third party drum software, but think the module would put me off. It just doesn't look as premium as the rest of the kit.
How much
It’s $8000 in Australia
Roland or efnote?
are the sounds multi layered samples ?
Yes
@@listener84 thanks. it is a awesome kit. i have now a 2box but is is a lot of work to get thinks right
Pete Thorn in 11:14
Hi-hats seem to react better than the VH-14s
The VH14s are better, but these are decently close. I think EFNOTE makes the second best hi-hats in the edrum world, and they are much cheaper than the Roland digital ones. But it's like a 6 month wait to even buy a VH14, so they may as well not even exist at the moment.
@@65Drums in the EU they have quite a few in stock on various online stores. But a lot have a couple weeks waiting time. It's not 6 months bad though.
@@65Drums I really didn't like the Vh-14's, it still has the same open/close problem that it does not react fast enough when open/close. There's loads of videos explaining the problem which the VH-10's already had. It has to do with the piston
Good to know the wait is getting shorter, I was just going off some complaining of a long wait time I heard from the 65 Drums Facebook group.
An 11" and 15" diameter toms? What's wrong with this company? Where are you supposed to to get replacement heads, not many mesh head manufacturers have those oddball sizes.
I really dont get it. Just silly.
Where do you get replacement parts for any company that does something for the first time? The company itself. The 11", 13" and 15" were made for performance sake, not to be different. Much R&D was spent on this, after 20 years at Roland and 2 years aT ATV. We stock 10", 11", 12", 13", 14", 15", 16" and 20" heads so far.
Performance sake? Come on now. You’re trying to tell us that they are all one inch different from standard sizes for performance? That’s some marketing bs.
@@matthewfischer3312 Not sure where the aggression is coming from but yes, as someone who's been in product development on the kits for two years, it's for performance sake. There is zero logic to it being a "marketing" advantage to ask people to try something different. It's funny how many in the community want something new, until it arrives. Samples were adjusted and rerecorded with different shell depths, different mesh types and thickness were tested, the floor was almost a 16" but 15" felt like the best overall performance with just the right amount of thud for a floor tom. Our engineers are going for sync of ears, hands, feet and eyes to create the experience, regardless of you believing it or not. Can you communicate respectfully to me without putting words in my mouth? if so, Thank you.
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Thanks for a great review Jason! Still think Roland has a better product!
For sure, but then again it costs more. So it's give and take either way
What type of event is this called?
NAMM
@@65Drums thanks!
Beautiful kit but pity it's a wrap at this price. ATV aDrums, while only piano black, are lacquer.
wie stimmt man das schlagzeug eigentlich so wie ein Akustik schlagzeug oder wie
No sample import??? Wtf….
Great review. I think as unforgivably limited the module is I like the raw dry sounds a lot better than the heavily processed and synthesized sounds on my TD-50 X-Upgrade. But I'd rather have too much than not enough. Considering the competition in that price range or even what you could do on your own with a much more cost effective A2E build the inadequate module and cheap wrap are a real deal breaker for me. I'm actually a little disappointed. I was hoping for something better.
If you want more sounds, add Superior Drummer. I have the 7. The module sounds plus SP3 is more than I'll ever need.
1.33 is there only one sample layer?? ! How can it be so hard to work in sample variation ?
Listen to 1.55 too. I just don't get it.
I notice this machine gunning and immediately wasn't into this module. I play a 2Box drumit 5 mk1 (great sounds) together with Roland Td11 for layered kick and snare sounds (the TD11 has machine gunning and I will upgrade this module one day).
2022 and the samples STILL sound from the early 2000’s… these drums look amazing but don’t sound amazing. I’d honestly just use the drum brain and run a plug-in like GGD.
i think 5k is too much because the roland rig just is better for the same price with the digital pads i think.
It's a matter of taste. i spent almost a year A,B, C'ing this with multiple Roland and Alesis kits for product development. This kit absolutely competes for the price. Play it and see.
The stack was a big zero for me. I like FNote though.
The tom sizes are a hard pass
that kit cant beat up roland vad506😜😜😜
1:33 horrible snares off sound. Cold and flat.. as usual.
It looks like we're going backwards, we might as well buy a normal drum set.
I prefer an electronic drumset to look like they first made them
Wouldn’t that be going backwards? 😂
The opposite. I love the fact that my ekit looks like an acoustic kit.
I thought so too til I played my conversion kit. So much funner with acoustic sizes.
cable snake, oddball sizes, and a really basic bullshit module? yeah I'll pass, especially if it's gunna be 5k for a kit I could build myself from some piezos off Amazon and a shitty used acoustic kit for way less
Sounds like a cheap beginner electric drum kit
Whoevet named this drum company EFNOTE your fired. Total crap sounding name. Product sounds like junk no matter if it is or not. CHEAP PRODUCT.
These comments always come from anonymous users with zero content, speaking in ALL CAPS. That’s funny