Scraping for sharp looking binding: here's how it's done!
Вставка
- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The king of Gibson relic finishes: Tom Murphy is well known as Gibson's go-to guy for relic finishes: perfectly worn and age-cracked. Tom's business, Guitar Preservation, makes this a specialty. Here he shows us how to make and use a scraper for cleaning binding after spraying a sunburst.
This video was made at Galloup Guitars' Northwoods Seminar in August of this year.
If you have questions, please contact us through our webpage www.stewmac.com... or visit our Facebook page / stewmac
For more information on tools and parts:
ColorTone Aerosol Finishing Kit
www.stewmac.com...
ColorTone Liquid Stains
www.stewmac.com...
ColorTone Tinted Aerosol Guitar Lacquer
www.stewmac.com...
Cream Plastic Binding
www.stewmac.com...
Guitar Finishing Step-By-Step
www.stewmac.com...
Scraper Blades
www.stewmac.com...
StewMac Guitar Buffer Complete Outfit
www.stewmac.com...
man how good is this video; smooth like butter
The new ultra short scale Les Paul.
The string tension would be heavenly.
More like Less Paul.
Thats just what they do with all the les pauls after the headstocks crack off
best comment
Great! But what to do with wood binding...?
Having done this to a few guitars, I can say it sure looks a lot easier when he's doing it. That's why he's the master.
Yep!
God that's satisfying to watch.
Tom I am currently in prison, do you know of a way I can make a tool like the one described in this video only with a plastic spoon?
im tellin' you got a phone in prison
bout pissed myself laughing
Idiot..lol
I can send you a cake..
Should have smuggled one in your “ prison wallet” on the way in mate
Even though you're doing a fantastic job, I got a heart attack watching this.
"Don't fear the Scraper"
I can't count how many times I've studied this video, it's really helped me with getting clean binding results. I don't know who the 12 people are who thumbs downed it but this is a short master class and if you pay attention you will learn pretty much all of the basics of binding scraping. prepping the blade is so important. Keep this video handy if you are attempting a color scrape for the first time it will save you a lot of tears and frustration. Hold the blade with a relaxed hand too, a relaxed grip is always the best way to hold any kind of hand tool when working on guitars.
Tom, makes it look so easy...
this is high class workmanship that takes years to master.
Özgün Demir
took me two guitars to master... the third one was easy peasy. It's all about the tools.
I've been a luthier for more than 13 years, and find it hard to believe to master something in two instruments, but ok.
Özgün Demir
I've been a carpenter for 20 and also done some boat carpentry. I see no skill in scraping off Colour from a plastic string though... it's mainly in your thumb and the leaning of the blade.
A razor I used as in this video, that's all.
Petro Larsson
thing is carpentry and luthiery are very different things.
Petro Larsson be the first person in the history of the Internet to back your words with some action. We're waiting for a vid of you doing the same thing with such precision. Unless what you said was just horseshit. If that's the case, stfu and gtfo.
If he's so smart then why is he workin' on a guitar that aint' got no neck?
+Tweekerhead Because thats just a neck to hold the guitar while you paint it?? and you can remove is because its a bolt on?
Tom was giving a demo at Galloup Guitars' Northwoods Seminar, and he brought this Les Paul body as a prop for his talk. It never was going to be completed as-is.
Aint got? If you're so smart how come you're asking a question when you aint got no brain? Do you really not understand why? Also, don't you understand why you shouldn't use a double negative and the word "aint when communicating in English?
Get over it man!
+mrfester42 Woah, take it easy. He was obviously being facetious with that question. And the double negative was clearly part of his kidding around. "Ain't" is just slang.
nice to see a man who knows what he is doing
This guy makes it look so easy!
Freaking Amazing.
TO see this man practice his art like this is a real treat.
Thank You Tom and Thank You StewMac.
Tom makes scraping binding look easy.. Don't be fooled, It takes years to master..
At Gibson Tom has Area 51 which is HIS area & NOBODY goes in that space, OR ELSE!!
Also NOTE: the guitar with the neck cut in half = Not good enough & going in the dumpster.. Quality Control!! Dealers used to get a headstock for display from time to time.. My Avatar is a 1994 Gibson Les Paul Studio Lite w/ M-III Electronics
That is skill, gentlemen. :)
Great instructions, Stewart, thanks so much for sharing. I have two guitars to do that have bindings, and I was wondering how on earth to mask them. You just saved me the trouble. I really appreciate your nice clean and clear tutorial!
.....not his first rodeo....
I remember scraping neck binding at the Mossman Co in the 70's - it was the first thing we did in the morning- the crew together drinking coffee, talking, honing our blades- I think it was just a hacksaw blade. I remember asking my co-worker Joe Cummings to trade scrapers- OMG how do you use this? and him responding OMG how do you use this? But when you really had it- Man, what a great job! Shout out to Mike Barrett, Chris Fisher, the Schlender boys- Mossman neck Dept- #1! Tom Hoeffgen
Gibson Memphis (could me Nashville and Acoustic too) just use plain old razor blades to screape binding, they don't need no fancy knife
There's literally nothing fancy about taking a metal strip to a file lol
Hi! Thanks for the video. Understanding that you cannot do the same procedure for a logo on a headstock, how do you deal with finishing a headstock (staining or using dyes or whatever) avoiding staining the inlay? And if, as in the binding, you cannot masking it, what procedure do you suggest to clean the inlay after finishing the headstock? Thank you very much!
If this is so critical, why when I look at custom shop Les Paul's does the binding have red bleed all over it? Surely just a lacquer coat wouldn't make the colour bleed so much?
niptodstan just cause it's a custom shop doesn't really mean it's amazing. Sad thing of todau
LarryUK that's because Gibson have shit quality control and charge extortionate prices for a brand name
Because Gibsons are trash?
The red bleed is a look the relic guitars tend to get. To make them look old.
Why thing I don't understand is why you don't just finish the guitar before installing the binding, scrape the finish out of the gutter, and then glue the binding on? Especially if you're building the guitar from scratch. Or is this a refinishing job?
Gibson scrape away more plastic than paint, always leaving a huge 'step' into the binding. Sloppy AF.
Yep that's all there is to it, oh and the thirty or forty years of experience :-) nice video good tips
Cool. Now I can build $12k guitars, just like Tom.
no wonder guitars like this are so expensive! beautiful work.
It does help to mask as much as you can, then scrape the rest. Saves a lot of work. The thin stewmac tape is perfect for that.
didn't see this anywhere in the comments, but i found you can actually use mr cleans magic eraser to make the whole thing white again when your done staining the guitar.
I don't get this. It seems the binding is grown inside the wood, and the guy is simply scrapping it out
I've watched this video a bunch of time and I just realized there is only half a neck. What the heck? Why in the world would they build that?
Tom is such a master with relic finishes that he is often hired to give demonstrations. This is Tom's guitar that he uses for these demos. Because a full neck isn't really necessary for the demo, it's been cut short to make it easier to handle.
Probably so it fits in his suitcase!
That guitar is meant for painting - not playing!
I really enjoyed that. Thank you Tom!
I don’t understand.. WHY would you have to do this??..
Is that plastic or lacquer shavings coming off?
Stew Mac stopped carrying these..... I wonder why...
For the regular person make a tool to hold a razor blade so it only sticks out as far as u need it
sighhhhhh, now I have to repaint the whole thing and then do THIS!!!!
Sir After scraping the binding Do I need to paint clearcoat or not?
How do you bend plastic binding?
You need balls or experience to attempt this. No in between .
Nice job, thanks.
I didn't know Robert Redford was a luthier.
Was the groove for the binding cut with the neck on the guitar
How do you remove stain from the sound hole rosette?
I have to ask but what happened to the rest of the neck ?
3:20 why gold finish is irreparable?
what happens to the rest of the neck ?!!?!?!?!?!
Hi. It is possible to put binding on LP Studio?
How about a center back strip on a guitar?
Genius! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
He makes it look easy.
....Its not.
Wow. Learned something new today. Feels like secret knowledge
Very tidy job ☠️🎸☠️
This is great. Where did you get the blade you used and shapened at the begining of your video?
That's super impressive
Do you do this after applying the finishing coat or before? I'm currently building my first guitar, and I've added binding to the body. But not sure whether to spray the guitar until the finish body and scrap the binding, or do it before adding my top coat??
This was an excellent video and exactly what I was looking for. Scraping seems like such an easy concept, but it’s really a mastered skill. Here’s to hoping I don’t botch this ‘59 replica I’m building. Lol
I'm planning on using alcohol dye on the guitar. Also have Mixol dye. I'm doing a blue thing. I'm wondering if the blue dye will stain the white binding to the point where it can't be scraped off like a lacquer spray paint, which wouldn't necessarily sink deeply into the binding.
What happened to the headstock
Although video tutorials/instructions are always helpful, something like this is only learned and perfected with hundreds of hours of practice.
what the heck is with the neck?
Who the hell is this guy lol jk
What is the best approach when you have a burst over a metallic? The chrome-like undercoat topped by the transparent coat topped by the burst coat results in a measurably thick finish (~1/16th inch) that chips out when attempting to scrape the binding as shown in this video. Even if one were able to scrape the binding clean without chip-out, one would be left with a significant stair-step down from the guitar surface to the binding.
What a treat to see a couple of tricks that a master like Tom Murphy uses.
Nice, but I am clumsy. I would need much practice, meaning I need to f... up one or two guitars :)
This is so satisfying!
Beautiful.
wow great video now some newbie is going to dig right through the top of his guitar because he made it look so so easy. nice to watch a masters hand at work, I usually go with xacto blades but I'll have to a utility blade after seeing this .
My ears are bleeding
So I see all videos that I've seen have shown a les paul with a pretty boxy or right angle kinda edge, my les paul had a very rounded edge. Anyone have any tips for getting the binding on that?
Outstanding knowledge and technique, Tom!
Impressive skill. You make it look so easy. Best video ive found on this subject
Hm. Making a scraper with a pieces of steel and a file. I'll have to give that a go--a burnisher hasn't fallen into workshop yet....
I've got a les paul studio.
Could I create a natural binding on the rose wood fretboard?
One of the many reasons why Gibson guitars are so much money. Fender doesn’t have to do that.
Thanks for the video. Your hand is in the way of the video, so we can't see where the tool is touching the work.
After scraping the binding, you put a clear coat on, right?
Holy cow, you just made that look easy, and its not.
Love this
man i wish there were professionals like him in my country. I wanna refinish a second hand les paul but dont know who i can trust to do it
Can binding be added to a fretboard without removing it? And if so, what would be the best way to do it?
The master!!
Stellarwork...
On top of being a very talented and creative luthier, Tom is also a great teacher.
Somebody pay this guy to do more videos!
Real master .
I wish there was more radius on the outer edge of the binding, so it's easier on the forearm.
You look like someone who I'm used to seeing with a beard for some reason
That was a privelage to watch and thanks for sharing the tip!
god, i am regretting so much that i didn't find this guide earlier
What a beautiful job. I've had to send my guitar back as it has a ridge on the inside binding all the way round. So good to see an artist at work.
Is that the guy who refinished slashs les paul??
I have tried this and its not for everyone. This is almost as learning a circus act. There has to be an easier way to do this (with a blade that has a dept stop, or something).
Just mask it good :D
Skilled
Thank You very much. I am about to restore my Dad's '49 Gibson Console Grande and trying to find all the resources, materials etc. in order to make the project as smooth as possible. This helped me. Is the binding just plastic? Thank You. Clayton
+Clayton Willoughby some binding is plastic, some binding is celluloid plastic and some are wood. Its important to know the differences between the plastics and even between new and old because they all behave a little differently
All of the "how to's" I've seen, including this one, are with a somewhat translucent finish. I'm interested in painting the body a solid wine red. Does the binding typically still show through so it can be scraped? Dumb question, but...
Nope. Solid paint you're better masking off for a "binding", or routing/installing traditional binding
oops answered my own question. sorry.
Instead of using a file you should use a stone!
C'mon show us how to do a full relic 😉
is this done before or after the nitro topcoat?
Absolutely beautiful to watch