Gibson i sent my 2014 r9 back to you because it had developed a bend in the neck that caused buzzing on the 14,15,16 and 17th frets. You pleked it said you could not fix it and sent me a very nice 2016 r9. Very nice you let me pick it from all the bourbon bursts you had at the custom shop. If I had truly understood and known what i have learned i would have sent it to JOE GLASER and happily spent a grand to get MY GUITAR BACK. If you are going to offer lifetime guarantee on an instrument that you build. You should understand we bond with these instruments lust after them for years and pay a hell of a lot of money for them. You should appreciate that and move heaven and earth to return the customer thier instrument. Instead of replacing it like it is a damn stale bag of chips. These are not just guitars your building! They are GIBSON GUITARS and damn it that should mean something. I will forever regret not sending that guitar to a luthier who cared.
Bummer about your guitar. It could have been refretted and fixed. If the fingerboard preparation isn’t right a Plek can’t do jack squat to make it right. They absolutely should have sent the guitar to a competent shop for a refret if they don’t have skilled repair people at the factory. The likely reality is the cost to repair versus replace is what determines the outcome for a corporation in their fiscal position.
dan peabody wished the same when I sent mine back, but at the same time my luthier was gonna charge 800 to repair mine. At that point, I didn’t mind the replacement because my luthier even said that his repair would be so extensive and invasive that he could not guarantee the guitar would be okay. The neck was set in the body poorly(2018 Gibson LP tribute) and that eventually the guitar neck back bowed so much that the neck could not be adjusted. I too loved that guitar, and even though it wasn’t a custom R9. For a broke college student at the time,I put a lot of money away to buy it. I feel your pain
That's a really fine theoretic video, but reality is total different!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In 2022 and 2023 I bought several "GIBSON LES PAUL STANDARD 50s" guitars, and the quality was very bad...especially the binding works on the neck and body!!! Didn't keep no guitar of these, they all went back to the guitar shop! FUCK...!!!
I don’t know what you’re talking about, John. I am not an employee. I love 3500 dollar guitars made by minorities with questionable quality control. I only buy American minority made instruments, even if it means getting something that requires a couple trips to the luthier every month. Worth every penny.
Here is my story. From a customer, who paid with hard earned money. I ordered a Gibson SG CME Limited Run. I pre-ordered and received it upon release. When it came, it had the most horrible binding job. The binding was uneven, with varied scrape marks up and down the neck. You could even see fragments of the binding sticking out/peeling off the guitar. Why did I pay for this? And it's a limited run. Wait... so you even had your eyes on a small batch, and this still happened. What the hell. Ok, benefit of the doubt. I return it to exchange with another one. Guess what.. it's WORSE. The binding this time was shifted in toward the fretboard. You can feel (and see) the gap in between the neck and the binding. It almost seemed like a poorly done Chibson. Again, what the hell. I call to just return it, because it seems that this thing called quality control at Gibson is not real.
You guys should work on the finish on the edges of your neck pockets .. pretty sloppy .. at least on the photos at Sweetwater’s guitar gallery when I was considering a black SG , and the serial numbers on the back headstock .. a couple of the numbers had so much paint filling the numbers in you literally couldn’t read the number! Yeah no thanks .. I’m looking at vintage Gibson’s now instead.
I've bought four new original series Gibson this year, kept 3 (2 LP, 1 SG). Each one of them have horrible binding scrapping issues- total amateur craftsmanship. The one I returned had such a messed up truss rod and warped neck that my guitar tech said "send it back, it's beyond repair". Gibson QC push is total propaganda. But they win- I kept three of them so pass me the bounce hat........
As an enthusiastic guitarist I have always wanted a Gibson. My parents surprised me with one for my 18th birthday. This guitar is now my pride and joy!
I have 30+ guitars. The worst examples of QC comes from MIA Gibson's. One examplel: brand new LP Junior, witchcraft knobs pressed onto the pot shafts at an angle, so they would turn and scrap the body. How could that pass QC? What was the operator thinking of? I had to replace the knobs as the originals had been damaged by forcing them down at an angle of the pot shafts so they could not be reused. Another example: bad dent on the top neck edge - so one would see it all the time. The shop said the guitar came that way. Again: QC? I have other examples. Thanks Gibson!
Gibson trying to save face after butchering quality for decades. They still pump out guitars with numerous flaws; Sharp frets, binding bleed, uneven nut slots, lacquer bleed, and the list goes on.
I just got a brand new CME exclusive SG in black with gold hardware. The binding job on it is absolutely terrible very sloppy. Literally looks like it was filed with a cheese grater.
I love what Jim said about how these instruments have a soul - but I would also think that a lot of that soul comes from the many skilled people who worked on the instrument during the steps of production. Great video - I love seeing how much care and skill go into making these instruments. Kudos to the women and men that create these fine guitars.
Still upset at how bad my binding looks on my 2020 Gibson Les Paul Custom. If I had to sell any guitar, this would be the first to go because of the imperfections. Don't buy new Gibsons online or without checking them out first! Gibson, since I know you're reading this and only like positive comments... THANKS A LOT.
@@gibsonguitar At frets 1-4, the neck has indents/gouges in the binding giving it a rough feel and appearance in that area. It sort of 'dips' under the neck wood, especially at fret 3 on the underside of the neck. You can feel the gap between the binding and the neck wood on the entire neck, but it becomes inconsistent/rough as you approach the headstock. I assume the guide stick slipped while scraping both sides of the neck, or maybe the stick was too short or not placed far enough down the neck while scraping the area. I'm just speculating. By contrast, my 2004 Les Paul Standard's neck has a smooth transition between binding and neck wood that I can't feel at all. I wish this one felt the same, especially for twice the price. I appreciate the response.
These Ladies and Guys are real artists! In the whole process of building the guitars the binding scraping is the most fascinating for me. Really amazing how precise and careful this work is done! I will think about it now every time I take my 2010 Custom Shop Les Paul VOS in honeyburst in my hands - and that´s almost every day! Next video to show those people who comment like: "A Gibson guitar is too expensive and not worse the price" - bla, bla bla! Look at this series and you will know WHY a Gibson costs what it costs and if you don´t want to pay for this mostly handmade things - no one forces you! I wanted a Gibson and I bought one - now 5 years later I´m still proud of my "Paula" Greetings from Germany and keep on rising again!
Great comment. Wake with all idiots posting zoomed in photos of minor imperfections. These instruments are hand made! Therefore a 100% perfect guitar with zero flaws, zero imperfections will not exist. And it’s perfectly fine! Lol Gibson make great guitars that just ooze quality. You can literally just feel and sense it when you pick one up. Yet people still whine and complain about tiny microscopic imperfections. Blows my mind.
Here is my story. From a customer, who paid with hard earned money. I ordered a Gibson SG CME Limited Run. I pre-ordered and received it upon release. When it came, it had the most horrible binding job. The binding was uneven, with varied scrape marks up and down the neck. You could even see fragments of the binding sticking out/peeling off the guitar. Why did I pay for this? And it's a limited run. Wait... so you even had your eyes on a small batch, and this still happened. What the hell. Ok, benefit of the doubt. I return it to exchange with another one. Guess what.. it's WORSE. The binding this time was shifted in toward the fretboard. You can feel (and see) the gap in between the neck and the binding. It almost seemed like a poorly done Chibson. Again, what the hell. I call to just return it, because it seems that this thing called quality control at Gibson is not real.
` it was a joke Lmaoo cuz it’s ironic. I own 20 guitars more than half are Gibson. I’ve actually played venues with them and have taken them on tours. To say I’m “blind” or that I “hate” Gibson is a huge understatement. My profile Pic is me playing a Les Paul. If you’re offended by a simple joke or a point of irony then you’re A) not an adult and really shouldn’t be chatting on the internet, or B) a troll who needs to climb back under the bridge. That Les Paul in that picture btw had a lot of issues from the factory, and Gibson were nice enough to replace it with a modern collection tribute, a couple of model years newer...so no I don’t hate Gibson.
I wish I could show you how horribly the neck binding on the neck of the SG I described in my first comment truly is. The worker deeply gouged into the binding, and there are little ridges within the depressions, one on the top, the other one on the bottom. I don't think the person who fills out the checklist even looked at it. There was no factory set up, and the binding should not have passed QC. But I'd rather I got the guitar, than to see a video of it being crushed under a front end loader! I'm so disappointed in what I thought would be a great new era for Gibson. Keith Clarke Richmond, VA.
Hey, amen dude. Here is my story. From a customer, who paid with hard earned money. I ordered a Gibson SG CME Limited Run. I pre-ordered and received it upon release. When it came, it had the most horrible binding job. The binding was uneven, with varied scrape marks up and down the neck. You could even see fragments of the binding sticking out/peeling off the guitar. Why did I pay for this? And it's a limited run. Wait... so you even had your eyes on a small batch, and this still happened. What the hell. Ok, benefit of the doubt. I return it to exchange with another one. Guess what.. it's WORSE. The binding this time was shifted in toward the fretboard. You can feel (and see) the gap in between the neck and the binding. It almost seemed like a poorly done Chibson. Again, what the hell. I call to just return it, because it seems that this thing called quality control at Gibson is not real.
Same on my 2011 les Paul.. a real shitty job by the first fret. they gouged way too deep. this is the first thing I will check on any new Gibson I ever buy.
I just got the Epiphone 2020 59 Les Paul RI with the Gibson specs, and Gibson Burstbuckers, and it is for $712+tax, better than any modern Gibson's I've played. No gaps, no binding issues, fit finish, and a beautiful AAA+ FLAMED VENEER, is so remenicent of a well made Gibson Standard, if you blindfolded me I could not tell the difference. They changed specs from Rosewood, to Indian laurel, but sitting next to my 5 Rosewood boarded guitars, I would swear it's Rosewood!!! Everything screams top notch Gibson, and it was set up perfectly at the factory. My only disappointments are. 1. No COA 2. No truss rod adjustment tool. 3. I can't think of anything else! The action is perfect, the top is awesome, the neck is the first real c shaped hand rolled neck I've seen on an Epi, and is a cross between a '59, and slim '60s neck. I'd rather play this than a 4 to 6K Gibson, it's a nearly perfect guitar I was probably the first pre-order in the US, and one of the first 2 or 3 indivuals to touch one, I WANT MY COA, AND A BLANK BLACK SWITCH COVER, So I can put the medallion away for safe keeping!
That is a great story from JC, that's dedication to one's craft! I love this series of creation videos,. They make me appreciate my Les Pauls and Explorer a lot more knowing the skills that went into making them.
I just LOVE my Les Paul (2019 Classic - Sweetwater Exclusive in Green) - best guitar Ive ever owned! Love these videos which shows just how much goes into making these things and really helps justify the cost!
I don't know... I love the les Paul guitar, but not Gibson. I have Japanese les Paul that is incredible. It just feels like Gibson is trying too hard to be something they just aren't anymore. They answer to stakeholders whose real interest is making money, which is fine that is how corporations work. It's just hard to make a product born of love and inspiration when the ultimate goal is profit.
Here is my story. From a customer, who paid with hard earned money. I ordered a Gibson SG CME Limited Run. I pre-ordered and received it upon release. When it came, it had the most horrible binding job. The binding was uneven, with varied scrape marks up and down the neck. You could even see fragments of the binding sticking out/peeling off the guitar. Why did I pay for this? And it's a limited run. Wait... so you even had your eyes on a small batch, and this still happened. What the hell. Ok, benefit of the doubt. I return it to exchange with another one. Guess what.. it's WORSE. The binding this time was shifted in toward the fretboard. You can feel (and see) the gap in between the neck and the binding. It almost seemed like a poorly done Chibson. Again, what the hell. I call to just return it, because it seems that this thing called quality control at Gibson is not real.
@@hotdog7334 That's the complain I often hear. Bad setup. Unbalanced Action. Uneven finish. Even loose screws. Delivered merchandise, rely on lazy customers accepting . Good for You for Not. There IS competition. Even Epiphone has more Pride.
Is there a reason why these “scrapers” workers are not provided with magnification lenses so they can see better where that blade is going? @Troglysguitarshow has several reviews where he has shown binding with uneven scrapes on brand new guitars.
If there's something I really did not appreciate on my Gibson Les Paul faded was the bad job made by those people who just scraped away at the fingerboard leaving a noticeable gap with the wood of the neck. It feels and looks very cheap and badly made. Overall I love the guitar because it sounds great but this is disappointing when you know I sold my Epiphone that was flawless to buy that Gibson. And I want to laugh when I see this video especially when I read on forums about all these unhappy customers who bought a 4000$ Les Paul Customs and have to deal with crappy bindings and other blemishes.
AGREED! How are they passing inspection when Im able to catch it within 30 seconds??? Thats why I will NEVER buy a guitar that I cannot SEE and PLAY first!
THANK YOU James "JC" Curleigh, Cesar Gueikian, Kim Mattoon and Christian Schmitz for all you have done to bring back the pride, quality and history back to Gibson! Through all of your leadership and vision we as customers and fans have seen the changes put in place and look forward to the future of Gibson... now if only Harley Davidson would take a page out of the Gibson book to save their Iconic American brand.
My friends sell Gibsons in Saint-Petersburg. They say that in recent years the quality of the finish has become crappy like on chinese guitars and what is worse - the Gibson began to put a chinese bridges. On the new Gibson guitar you can see sometimes a bridge that is already bent. Well, Fender had it's CBS era, seems like it's your turn.
Your second hand info is false. Do you own one, or buy and sell them often? Gibsons use nitro lacquer, some people like it, some don't, but it sure doesn't feel like poly. This hasn't changed with the recent ones. All the recent ones I have seen still have bridges made by API of Nashville TN. This could change of course, I doubt it though. Too many foreign parts and they can't stamp Made in USA on it anymore. The new cases are made in China, they used to be Made in Canada. They switched late 2019 I believe. Quality seems to be pretty good recently, it has been good for as long as I can remember. People just love to rip on Gibson.
@@thephotoyak My friend, I've been playing guitar since '96, the last fifteen years as a professional. At the same time I worked for three years as a luthier, and three years in a music store, selling Gibsons and other brands. I've personally owned three Gibsons, four Fenders, four PRS, two Suhrs (all of these US made), three Epis, some masterbuilds, and countless guitars of my friends and colleagues have passed through my hands over my career. The only guitars that I haven't seen in person are Fenders from the 50s and 60s. Ten years ago things were going well, but now Gibson is just a lost technology. I don't know what they changed, but the quality and craftsmanship has dropped so much that these guitars are just a shame to sell.
Beat me to it. I always found flaws with their binding and scraping. I've seen factory guitars with tearout all around the body where they routed for the binding poorly and just stuffed filler in, and on top of that the binding still has cherry finish all over it in splotches. They talk about it like they're experts
Great video! Interesting to see the process. Would love to see Gibson put binding in the F-Holes on some of their modern ES Memphis models, in my opinion I think it would be beneficial from a visual/aesthetic standpoint as opposed to the bare wood.
This is what Gibson has a lot of flaws with (BINDING SCRAPE ISSUES) I see bad jobs on a lot of BRAND NEW Les Pauls! This needs to STOP! Paying way to much money to let these guitars hit the market. How do they pass inspection when Im able to see an issue in 30 seconds?????
I absolutely love my Gibsons. I have a 2019 Standard Bourbon Burst, 2020 Classic Honey Burst and a 2020 Slash signature Anaconda Burst and all three have been superb. They all came in perfect.
I did the exact same thing in shop class - I built a flying V. Turned out terrible. I didn't know the neck need pitch and the action was so high off the board I could barely play it bit it looked cool.
This month I went into a saga of finding a good gibson. First one was a Les Paul Special tribute 2020, it had hair inside of the finish, and a fingerprint finished in the back of the neck. The second one, also Les Paul Special tribute 2020, had a truss rod cover bent, and it sounded really dull. Ok, so I went and bought a full blown 2020 Les Paul Special Yellow TV, the nut was abismal, cut so low, I couldn't play an open high E, the pickup was so wobble, I thought It was not screwed right, but it was, I think the springs were in bad condition. The Binding, it had such a big ledge from the binding to the neck, it look like it was scrapped with a kitchen knife, the truss rod was near of being maxed out(in a 2020 guitar). Absolute garbage. I went to l&m and returned it for a les paul jr, no binding, no springs, les opportunities for Gibson qc issues, this guitar is great now. From all this, I recommend never buy a Gibson online, and if you are going to test one, bring a checklist of things. I love Gibson, but the QC is so bad, you will have more misses than hits when buying one.
I own 3 Gibson Les Pauls and I love them even more after seeing this great series and the faces of the people who put their heart and soul into each and every one. You guys are great!
My respect and overall attitude with Gibson has me conflicted. With their QC issues over the years it has led me away from the the brand. It was hit or miss with the quality, sound and play ability (tuning issues) with the brand. Then after promoting a Slash guitar which Slash never played but was a Gibson replica made guitar, and yet Gibson profited off of, well, what can I say. Then they start suing companies over body shapes. How desperate can you be! Why because in my opinion they are looking for licence fees. Two of my favorite companies in particular, PRS, which they lost against and now Keisel over their SC and V series guitars. Gibson, stop with this crap, I would love to get into one of your Custom Shop guitars but your business practices are pissing me off.
just use painters tape before painting save hundreds of dollar and deliver a better quality instrument, the Gibsons at the stores all have a poor binding job, lot a mistakes for the price you ask
Tomorrow the 22nd will be exactly one year since I received my Gibson Custom Shop 1956 Goldtop and to this day when I open up the case it still takes my breath away! Keep up the great work Gibson!
These women do an amazing job, outstanding. Do you find that women are more skillful at detail work such as this? And yes... I understand that men can do it, too. This is an honest question!
I have that classic color bleed into my binding from the red dye they use. It's also kinda all over the place as the binding is scraped lower than the surrounding wood and not very uniform, anywhere. Kinda laughable, that the import Epiphone I bought is less than 1/6th the price and flawless to boot.
@gibsontv I have tried out 4 T.V yellow 2019 Les Paul Specials here in the U.K and every single one I turned down due to terrible neck binding gouges and scraping. Very ugly deep gouges and not what you want or expect on an instrument of that value. A real shame really as the rest of the guitars finishes were nice but this totally takes away from it (you are looking at the neck and fretboard most of the time) and it looked dreadful and obviously not something you can do anything about (apart from not buying it). I will try to find one that has been finished well but I really shouldn’t have to and find this very frustrating. Really hope these comments from me and others are taken in to account.
My new, $3K Songwriter Standard EC Rosewood Burst acoustic guitar binding is sharp, making the neck uncomfortable to play. Is there an easy fix for that? I would have thought it would be rounded, but it's not. I have a new Gibson Standard Les Paul 60s arriving today to replace the guitar I returned for problems related to actual guitar function...strings fretting out no matter where you set the bridge or truss rod. Sent a 61 standard SG back because it had1/4 inch and more lacquer sprayed onto the fretboard above the 12th fret on both sides. Not having much luck here lately with you guys.
Well I just got a cme exclusive SG BRAND NEW…all these women would explain why my binding looks like someone filed it with a cheese grater … a $2500 guitar should not have sloppy work like that. Very disappointing
@@seamusforpresident3670 I'd love to see them at least reply "I'm sorry that you (and a lot of others) have had a bad experience... these things are hand made, etc. and it's part of their charm" or some other bull shit.
Scraping on my new 50's Standard was very good, however, there was clearcoat on both sides of the nut. Also, the nut was very rough with sharp edges. I took care of all this myself in a couple of minutes but at this price I shouldn't have to.
I have 1 gibson. A Les Paul classic. It’s my favorite guitar. Of 28. And by the end of this year I’ll have another, in the next 5 I want a true Gibson Les Paul Custom. I hate how expensive they are but after watching this, and knowing the amount of work that goes into just one of these instruments…it’s worth it. Gibson USA!
I have a 2016 Dot es 335 suddenly appear 2 cracks in the lower ear...I want to ask....where is your prestige as a guitar makers? You disappoint me a lot
Lol every process known to man sometimes has issues. this is a hand made instrument. I’d like to see you do something this skulked, I only play Gibsons and I’m proud to do so.
“Typically takes them 6 to 8 months of training”. I just got a 2022 60s standard that has a HUGE ledge throughout the whole body. In the high e string side, where the neck meets the body you even need magnifying lenses to see the fret nibs as the scrapper has eaten through 99% of the binding. This was an absolutely awful job by an unskilled person and should have never passed a QC check even if it was an Epiphone. I have another 2019 60s that has a perfect binding job so think that Gibson should start thinking about training them for 2 years instead and probably trying to lower employee turnover as the person who did it in 2019 is most probably gone looking at the 2022 LP I got.
I just received a Gibson custom shop 1959 reissue ES 355. For a 6000 guitar, I really had high expectations- but upon grabbing it I immediately noticed the neck was uneven with the binding. The neck is wider than the fretboard binding and that just feels weird on my thumb. My way cheaper 2005 SG doesn’t have that. Is this a 1959 thing they are trying to replicate? Or poor QC?
Been plsy guitar professionally for 4 years, own several Gibsons. The weirdest thing to happen though was buying a brabd new SG from Gibson and the bridge was leaning forward and i took out the bushings after seeing something stuck in it.. under the bushing was a squished ear plug.. still undure if it was accidental or for some reason added to try to fix a leaning wrongly installed bushing 😅 either way I sent it back.
I re painted my les paul earlier this month before this video came out. I tried the whole scrape the binding thing and it was SO hard. It turned out ok but not super crisp like out of the factory. Wish i could have watched this before hand and pick up some tips
The way this is filmed disgusts me.. Everything that follows this post 2016 focus on certain aspects... The reason Movies completely s.ck. This world is ill. Remove the Fed.
I've loved Gibson for over 30 years, but every time I've decided I want to buy one, the ones I ordered or tried out instore have had such piss poor build quality that I never end up buying and forget about it for a few years. Had to reject a 50s Faded this week because the binding was so bad. Asian build quality is far superior to American. Too many people have been brainwashed to not believe it though which is why these companies get away with manufacturing second rate products. Having said that, hopefully one day I'll be in the right place at the right time with the right amount of disposable money to find an LP I can keep forever.
What causes the white cream binding to turn clear looking? I got one of the rejects that was cut into really deep on the bottom around the pickguard. There's this really deep cut on my 1950's Les Paul Standard model. The guitar sounds great though. Only wish they would have given me a discount but I didn't record video on me opening the case. So they'll just say it was something that I may have done.
Guide Sticks, different Blades ... couldn't you just invent a tool to do this for you? I mean it's just a bearing router but the blade would be on the outside. This will spare you the 6-8 month training and no one would notice. Only because you make traditional instruments doesn't mean you have to work like its 1950.
My gibson came with nicks and dents, the wrong tuners, lopsided knobs, frets that were burred and unfinished, and poorly taped pickups with wiring issues. Real top notch work coming from made in the USA. My $50 starcaster from china plays and sounds better than my $1500 les paul. Oh also if you rub the back of the guitar at all you hear static and popping through the amp so it must be great for performers... too bad it was my first guitar and I was too naive to return it and buy a different brand.
I did just get a Trad Pro V and the binding has scrape marks all over it and it was poorly done. For another example, the binding isn’t even close to flush as well. If that’s a trained worker, I’ve had Chinese guitars with better binding. But it’s my first ever Paul and I won’t send it back. Besides it does sound and play great. Just dissatisfied with what they’re saying here about the great job they do.
Gibson, get with the times. Painting over and then scraping back the binding is a primitive, slow, and error prone way of doing it. Use 3M pinstriping blue plastic masking tape, tape off the binding very carefully, paint the guitar with its color coat, quickly remove the tape before the finish builds a strong film, and you've got a perfect binding job already done that takes a LOT less time and effort than it ever takes to scrape the paint of all the binding. Plus this makes it far less likely that the binding will get over scraped or gouged. I build guitars myself. And I've scraped binding like you do. I've switched to taping over the binding before the color coat and it takes much less time, much less effort, and gives a far superior result. If it can work for me, it can work for you.
I just purchased a Custom Les Paul 1960 standard reissues. I just returned a Custom Les Paul 1960 standard reissues. I was very disappointed. I purchased it form Gibson online. First off, it seemed like it wasn't shipped properly. The strings were to full tension(not sure if they are supposed to be or not), but the selector switch was broken and made its way behind the guitar where it scratched it just a tiny bit, and the aluminum fell off one of the knobs. I have a feeling this guitar was already purchased and returned (arnt they supposed to have a sticker on the pick guard? and one of the bags in the case was already opened) The big problem I had is that where the binding meets the mahogany on the neck there was a ridge, a substantial ridge, as if the binding wasn't thick enough for the channel. I couldn't believe that a seven thousand dollar guitar, their "pinnacle of craftsmanship" had a ridge like that, and it was on the neck so it was very uncomfortable. I dont have a place near me where I can test this guitar out, and most stores dont have one of these on the shelf. So if I really want one, which I thought I always did, I have to try and order it again, which I probably will give it one more try. Since I was a kid I dreamed of owning a Les Paul just like the greats, I was finally in a position where I could afford it and I was very let down. The thing is, when I called them to talk I was very nice and calm, but the guy on the phone didn't give two shits, he didn't want to even know what the problems were, he never apologized on their behalf, and it just seemed weird, like they just expect customers to be disappointed.
So what you're telling me is: Your guitar cost so much because Karen over there needs to be paid more than some Indonesian who does a better job. Right? Guess that's the soul.
Clearly by the way the fret nibs look these guys aren't getting good training or just plain aren't getting good at it !? I've got a 2017 SG cherry burst and it's got pretty good nibs, not perfect but not bad by any standard but they play just fine and I wouldn't have bought it if were crap.
the binding on the fretboard of my 2019 sg standard was kinda dodgy. theres one part were chunks of the binding were scraped away and there's still a bit on finish on the binding.
My 2022 LP 60's standard that was built this past September is flawless. I have seen older ones that should not have passed QC though. The real good ones are out there. Play it and look it over in person.
Unfortunately the wood on my neck is proud of the binding on the fretboard. Like they scraped too much away. You can feel the ridge where the neck is wider than the binding. Pretty shameful for a $2000 guitar. Looking online this is not an uncommon issue.
hi gibson from indonesia......im fallin in love with you since the first sight, maybe i cant effort you.. but you are my dreams guitar.. maybe some day i can have you.. gibson les paul costum black beauty
I love les pauls and bought a gibson exclusive 60s les paul standard beautiful guitar up till you see the cut out .they did a terrible job on the scraping.A lot of paint still on binding. makes binding look crooked.
Bad ass/passionate offering from JC. All in !! Notice all the women here ? I believe it was Leo Fender who first realized they have the patience for work like this. Then, wiring circuit boards or winding pick ups (Ybarra?).
Hey Gibson your binding is poorly done on 90% of your new guitars. Fire someone and do better because all others brands are doing smooth to the touch binding. I know somenof them are smoothe but most arent. This just shows me you guys can do it well and just let some pass that are shoddy.
I bought a Les Paul Burst in 2015 I had to have so much work done to that guitar. It was unplayable out of the box. I just bought a gold top standard LET ME SAY THIS QUALITY WAY UP. This guitar is perfect (Fit, Finnish and Tone) everything on it is perfect. Is Gibson back HELL YES!
I also bought a 2016 manufactured GLP. Same poor quality you talk about and still having work done. I am reluctant to buy Gibson again but let’s see what the future holds. I hope they are truly back to stay. 👍🇦🇺
Absolutely these guitars have a soul! Every individual that plays a part in the creation of these instruments leaves a trace of themselves! Thanks you to all production workers for your quality and expertise!
I had all those expectations but did not expect to buy a new 2016 Les Paul Standard in 2018 with grounding issues or fret markers that lift. I keep watching because I am interested in the manufacturing process of my guitar but it starting to grate when I hear you bang on about craftsmanship and quality. It’s just not their in reality when it comes to my USA Les Paul. 🥺
Hey Gibson, what can I do if on my Les Paul part of the binding on the neck is too scraped? (Came like that from the factory) is there a way to fix it?
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Gibson would be nothing without these blue collar workers hard work and knowledge -
Gibson i sent my 2014 r9 back to you because it had developed a bend in the neck that caused buzzing on the 14,15,16 and 17th frets. You pleked it said you could not fix it and sent me a very nice 2016 r9. Very nice you let me pick it from all the bourbon bursts you had at the custom shop. If I had truly understood and known what i have learned i would have sent it to JOE GLASER and happily spent a grand to get MY GUITAR BACK. If you are going to offer lifetime guarantee on an instrument that you build. You should understand we bond with these instruments lust after them for years and pay a hell of a lot of money for them. You should appreciate that and move heaven and earth to return the customer thier instrument. Instead of replacing it like it is a damn stale bag of chips. These are not just guitars your building! They are GIBSON GUITARS and damn it that should mean something. I will forever regret not sending that guitar to a luthier who cared.
Bummer about your guitar. It could have been refretted and fixed. If the fingerboard preparation isn’t right a Plek can’t do jack squat to make it right. They absolutely should have sent the guitar to a competent shop for a refret if they don’t have skilled repair people at the factory. The likely reality is the cost to repair versus replace is what determines the outcome for a corporation in their fiscal position.
dan peabody wished the same when I sent mine back, but at the same time my luthier was gonna charge 800 to repair mine. At that point, I didn’t mind the replacement because my luthier even said that his repair would be so extensive and invasive that he could not guarantee the guitar would be okay. The neck was set in the body poorly(2018 Gibson LP tribute) and that eventually the guitar neck back bowed so much that the neck could not be adjusted. I too loved that guitar, and even though it wasn’t a custom R9. For a broke college student at the time,I put a lot of money away to buy it. I feel your pain
That's a really fine theoretic video, but reality is total different!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In 2022 and 2023 I bought several "GIBSON LES PAUL STANDARD 50s" guitars, and the quality was very bad...especially the binding works on the neck and body!!! Didn't keep no guitar of these, they all went back to the guitar shop! FUCK...!!!
All of these comments sound like they were left by Gibson employees
I don’t know what you’re talking about, John. I am not an employee. I love 3500 dollar guitars made by minorities with questionable quality control. I only buy American minority made instruments, even if it means getting something that requires a couple trips to the luthier every month. Worth every penny.
Walker Ranger lol me too
Totally bought/fake comments for sure.
Here is my story. From a customer, who paid with hard earned money. I ordered a Gibson SG CME Limited Run. I pre-ordered and received it upon release. When it came, it had the most horrible binding job. The binding was uneven, with varied scrape marks up and down the neck. You could even see fragments of the binding sticking out/peeling off the guitar. Why did I pay for this? And it's a limited run. Wait... so you even had your eyes on a small batch, and this still happened. What the hell. Ok, benefit of the doubt. I return it to exchange with another one. Guess what.. it's WORSE. The binding this time was shifted in toward the fretboard. You can feel (and see) the gap in between the neck and the binding. It almost seemed like a poorly done Chibson. Again, what the hell. I call to just return it, because it seems that this thing called quality control at Gibson is not real.
@@hotdog7334 Far too common a story I'm afraid. Sorry to hear about your experience.
You guys should work on the finish on the edges of your neck pockets .. pretty sloppy .. at least on the photos at Sweetwater’s guitar gallery when I was considering a black SG , and the serial numbers on the back headstock .. a couple of the numbers had so much paint filling the numbers in you literally couldn’t read the number! Yeah no thanks .. I’m looking at vintage Gibson’s now instead.
I've bought four new original series Gibson this year, kept 3 (2 LP, 1 SG). Each one of them have horrible binding scrapping issues- total amateur craftsmanship. The one I returned had such a messed up truss rod and warped neck that my guitar tech said "send it back, it's beyond repair". Gibson QC push is total propaganda. But they win- I kept three of them so pass me the bounce hat........
😂😂😂😂😂😂 sure
As an enthusiastic guitarist I have always wanted a Gibson. My parents surprised me with one for my 18th birthday. This guitar is now my pride and joy!
Awesome
I have 30+ guitars. The worst examples of QC comes from MIA Gibson's. One examplel: brand new LP Junior, witchcraft knobs pressed onto the pot shafts at an angle, so they would turn and scrap the body. How could that pass QC? What was the operator thinking of? I had to replace the knobs as the originals had been damaged by forcing them down at an angle of the pot shafts so they could not be reused.
Another example: bad dent on the top neck edge - so one would see it all the time. The shop said the guitar came that way. Again: QC?
I have other examples.
Thanks Gibson!
Gibson trying to save face after butchering quality for decades. They still pump out guitars with numerous flaws; Sharp frets, binding bleed, uneven nut slots, lacquer bleed, and the list goes on.
I just got a brand new CME exclusive SG in black with gold hardware. The binding job on it is absolutely terrible very sloppy. Literally looks like it was filed with a cheese grater.
I love what Jim said about how these instruments have a soul - but I would also think that a lot of that soul comes from the many skilled people who worked on the instrument during the steps of production. Great video - I love seeing how much care and skill go into making these instruments. Kudos to the women and men that create these fine guitars.
Thanks for watching!!!
Still upset at how bad my binding looks on my 2020 Gibson Les Paul Custom. If I had to sell any guitar, this would be the first to go because of the imperfections. Don't buy new Gibsons online or without checking them out first!
Gibson, since I know you're reading this and only like positive comments... THANKS A LOT.
What exactly is the problem with the binding?
@@gibsonguitar At frets 1-4, the neck has indents/gouges in the binding giving it a rough feel and appearance in that area. It sort of 'dips' under the neck wood, especially at fret 3 on the underside of the neck. You can feel the gap between the binding and the neck wood on the entire neck, but it becomes inconsistent/rough as you approach the headstock. I assume the guide stick slipped while scraping both sides of the neck, or maybe the stick was too short or not placed far enough down the neck while scraping the area. I'm just speculating. By contrast, my 2004 Les Paul Standard's neck has a smooth transition between binding and neck wood that I can't feel at all. I wish this one felt the same, especially for twice the price. I appreciate the response.
Make the cases in the US too or at least bring them back to the american continent, the ones made in Canada were better!
Roberto Sunga where are they made now? The Canadian cases are solid.
@@EdwardT9 China...
Roberto Sunga ,ok, that’s gotta stop. If not Canada, then why not Mexico?
Dont sue me brah!
These Ladies and Guys are real artists! In the whole process of building the guitars the binding scraping is the most fascinating for me. Really amazing how precise and careful this work is done!
I will think about it now every time I take my 2010 Custom Shop Les Paul VOS in honeyburst in my hands - and that´s almost every day!
Next video to show those people who comment like: "A Gibson guitar is too expensive and not worse the price" - bla, bla bla! Look at this series and you will know WHY a Gibson costs what it costs and if you don´t want to pay for this mostly handmade things - no one forces you!
I wanted a Gibson and I bought one - now 5 years later I´m still proud of my "Paula"
Greetings from Germany and keep on rising again!
Thanks for watching
Great comment. Wake with all idiots posting zoomed in photos of minor imperfections. These instruments are hand made! Therefore a 100% perfect guitar with zero flaws, zero imperfections will not exist. And it’s perfectly fine! Lol Gibson make great guitars that just ooze quality. You can literally just feel and sense it when you pick one up. Yet people still whine and complain about tiny microscopic imperfections. Blows my mind.
Here is my story. From a customer, who paid with hard earned money. I ordered a Gibson SG CME Limited Run. I pre-ordered and received it upon release. When it came, it had the most horrible binding job. The binding was uneven, with varied scrape marks up and down the neck. You could even see fragments of the binding sticking out/peeling off the guitar. Why did I pay for this? And it's a limited run. Wait... so you even had your eyes on a small batch, and this still happened. What the hell. Ok, benefit of the doubt. I return it to exchange with another one. Guess what.. it's WORSE. The binding this time was shifted in toward the fretboard. You can feel (and see) the gap in between the neck and the binding. It almost seemed like a poorly done Chibson. Again, what the hell. I call to just return it, because it seems that this thing called quality control at Gibson is not real.
$1000 for plastic binding. Nice.
What should it be bound with? I am genuinely interested.
Better than painting it on I guess?
@@sideparting6845 $1000 for a strip of plastic glued to the edges of the body, it should be $100 at most.
I find it funny that they sued over Flying V copies but JC made one in high school
I missed the part where he said he began to mass produce them in High School....
Lmao well sorry to offend you
Literally every company would try suing in that case. Fender did it over strats. Stop with your idiotic blind hate
` it was a joke Lmaoo cuz it’s ironic. I own 20 guitars more than half are Gibson. I’ve actually played venues with them and have taken them on tours. To say I’m “blind” or that I “hate” Gibson is a huge understatement. My profile Pic is me playing a Les Paul. If you’re offended by a simple joke or a point of irony then you’re A) not an adult and really shouldn’t be chatting on the internet, or B) a troll who needs to climb back under the bridge. That Les Paul in that picture btw had a lot of issues from the factory, and Gibson were nice enough to replace it with a modern collection tribute, a couple of model years newer...so no I don’t hate Gibson.
@@ckaras100 get a grip loser lol
I wish I could show you how horribly the neck binding on the neck of the SG I described in my first comment truly is. The worker deeply gouged into the binding, and there are little ridges within the depressions, one on the top, the other one on the bottom. I don't think the person who fills out the checklist even looked at it. There was no factory set up, and the binding should not have passed QC. But I'd rather I got the guitar, than to see a video of it being crushed under a front end loader! I'm so disappointed in what I thought would be a great new era for Gibson.
Keith Clarke
Richmond, VA.
Hey, amen dude. Here is my story. From a customer, who paid with hard earned money. I ordered a Gibson SG CME Limited Run. I pre-ordered and received it upon release. When it came, it had the most horrible binding job. The binding was uneven, with varied scrape marks up and down the neck. You could even see fragments of the binding sticking out/peeling off the guitar. Why did I pay for this? And it's a limited run. Wait... so you even had your eyes on a small batch, and this still happened. What the hell. Ok, benefit of the doubt. I return it to exchange with another one. Guess what.. it's WORSE. The binding this time was shifted in toward the fretboard. You can feel (and see) the gap in between the neck and the binding. It almost seemed like a poorly done Chibson. Again, what the hell. I call to just return it, because it seems that this thing called quality control at Gibson is not real.
Same on my 2011 les Paul.. a real shitty job by the first fret. they gouged way too deep. this is the first thing I will check on any new Gibson I ever buy.
I just got the Epiphone 2020 59 Les Paul RI with the Gibson specs, and Gibson Burstbuckers, and it is for $712+tax, better than any modern Gibson's I've played. No gaps, no binding issues, fit finish, and a beautiful AAA+ FLAMED VENEER, is so remenicent of a well made Gibson Standard, if you blindfolded me I could not tell the difference. They changed specs from Rosewood, to Indian laurel, but sitting next to my 5 Rosewood boarded guitars, I would swear it's Rosewood!!! Everything screams top notch Gibson, and it was set up perfectly at the factory. My only disappointments are. 1. No COA
2. No truss rod adjustment tool.
3. I can't think of anything else!
The action is perfect, the top is awesome, the neck is the first real c shaped hand rolled neck I've seen on an Epi, and is a cross between a '59, and slim '60s neck. I'd rather play this than a 4 to 6K Gibson, it's a nearly perfect guitar
I was probably the first pre-order in the US, and one of the first 2 or 3 indivuals to touch one,
I WANT MY COA, AND A BLANK BLACK SWITCH COVER, So I can put the medallion away for safe keeping!
That why i bought a epiphone better then a gibson. Ill wait till 2030 till they get it right lol
That is a great story from JC, that's dedication to one's craft! I love this series of creation videos,. They make me appreciate my Les Pauls and Explorer a lot more knowing the skills that went into making them.
Thanks for watching
Which episode do you bulldoze the guitars in??🤔🤔
I just LOVE my Les Paul (2019 Classic - Sweetwater Exclusive in Green) - best guitar Ive ever owned! Love these videos which shows just how much goes into making these things and really helps justify the cost!
Thanks for watching!!!
I don't know... I love the les Paul guitar, but not Gibson. I have Japanese les Paul that is incredible. It just feels like Gibson is trying too hard to be something they just aren't anymore. They answer to stakeholders whose real interest is making money, which is fine that is how corporations work. It's just hard to make a product born of love and inspiration when the ultimate goal is profit.
Love what JC is doing here, keep it up man🤘🏼🤘🏼
Stop with the lies. If I post praise, will you pay me too?
If I could aford Gibson. I'd get a PRS, or 2 Fenders.
To each their own. I have 2 older Gibsons and they're going to the grave with me.
@@eric_in_florida Yes. Older is Good. From 2010- present, less love. I enjoy Epi Paul. I miss my Epi Special, P90.
Here is my story. From a customer, who paid with hard earned money. I ordered a Gibson SG CME Limited Run. I pre-ordered and received it upon release. When it came, it had the most horrible binding job. The binding was uneven, with varied scrape marks up and down the neck. You could even see fragments of the binding sticking out/peeling off the guitar. Why did I pay for this? And it's a limited run. Wait... so you even had your eyes on a small batch, and this still happened. What the hell. Ok, benefit of the doubt. I return it to exchange with another one. Guess what.. it's WORSE. The binding this time was shifted in toward the fretboard. You can feel (and see) the gap in between the neck and the binding. It almost seemed like a poorly done Chibson. Again, what the hell. I call to just return it, because it seems that this thing called quality control at Gibson is not real.
@@hotdog7334 That's the complain I often hear. Bad setup. Unbalanced Action. Uneven finish. Even loose screws. Delivered merchandise, rely on lazy customers accepting . Good for You for Not. There IS competition. Even Epiphone has more Pride.
I sold a PRS to get a Gibson, wouldn't play a fender if they paid me, I don't want to sound shit
Mr. Curley has done a remarkable job of turning Gibson around, kudos..!
Yeah and it figures the "Savior" of Gibson would have the initials of JC! 😁
Is there a reason why these “scrapers” workers are not provided with magnification lenses so they can see better where that blade is going? @Troglysguitarshow has several reviews where he has shown binding with uneven scrapes on brand new guitars.
If there's something I really did not appreciate on my Gibson Les Paul faded was the bad job made by those people who just scraped away at the fingerboard leaving a noticeable gap with the wood of the neck. It feels and looks very cheap and badly made. Overall I love the guitar because it sounds great but this is disappointing when you know I sold my Epiphone that was flawless to buy that Gibson. And I want to laugh when I see this video especially when I read on forums about all these unhappy customers who bought a 4000$ Les Paul Customs and have to deal with crappy bindings and other blemishes.
AGREED! How are they passing inspection when Im able to catch it within 30 seconds??? Thats why I will NEVER buy a guitar that I cannot SEE and PLAY first!
@@austinbassin4420 Just don't buy a Gibson. You get a way better deal buying an Epiphone. Especially if you get the '59 LP...😉😁
@@joehahn8817 Seen some really nice finishes on those as well! New Gibson tops are very bland
THANK YOU James "JC" Curleigh, Cesar Gueikian, Kim Mattoon and Christian Schmitz for all you have done to bring back the pride, quality and history back to Gibson! Through all of your leadership and vision we as customers and fans have seen the changes put in place and look forward to the future of Gibson... now if only Harley Davidson would take a page out of the Gibson book to save their Iconic American brand.
My friends sell Gibsons in Saint-Petersburg. They say that in recent years the quality of the finish has become crappy like on chinese guitars and what is worse - the Gibson began to put a chinese bridges. On the new Gibson guitar you can see sometimes a bridge that is already bent. Well, Fender had it's CBS era, seems like it's your turn.
Their hard cases are made in China now as well.
@@billthompson3236 Somehow I'm not surprised... but at least the case doesn't affect the sound.
Your second hand info is false. Do you own one, or buy and sell them often? Gibsons use nitro lacquer, some people like it, some don't, but it sure doesn't feel like poly. This hasn't changed with the recent ones. All the recent ones I have seen still have bridges made by API of Nashville TN. This could change of course, I doubt it though. Too many foreign parts and they can't stamp Made in USA on it anymore. The new cases are made in China, they used to be Made in Canada. They switched late 2019 I believe. Quality seems to be pretty good recently, it has been good for as long as I can remember. People just love to rip on Gibson.
@@thephotoyak My friend, I've been playing guitar since '96, the last fifteen years as a professional. At the same time I worked for three years as a luthier, and three years in a music store, selling Gibsons and other brands. I've personally owned three Gibsons, four Fenders, four PRS, two Suhrs (all of these US made), three Epis, some masterbuilds, and countless guitars of my friends and colleagues have passed through my hands over my career. The only guitars that I haven't seen in person are Fenders from the 50s and 60s. Ten years ago things were going well, but now Gibson is just a lost technology. I don't know what they changed, but the quality and craftsmanship has dropped so much that these guitars are just a shame to sell.
Binding and scraping, one of the achilles heels of gibson manufacturing.
Beat me to it. I always found flaws with their binding and scraping. I've seen factory guitars with tearout all around the body where they routed for the binding poorly and just stuffed filler in, and on top of that the binding still has cherry finish all over it in splotches. They talk about it like they're experts
@@kbkman7742 Totally agree. hopefully they'll improve
Great video! Interesting to see the process. Would love to see Gibson put binding in the F-Holes on some of their modern ES Memphis models, in my opinion I think it would be beneficial from a visual/aesthetic standpoint as opposed to the bare wood.
This is what Gibson has a lot of flaws with (BINDING SCRAPE ISSUES) I see bad jobs on a lot of BRAND NEW Les Pauls! This needs to STOP! Paying way to much money to let these guitars hit the market. How do they pass inspection when Im able to see an issue in 30 seconds?????
My recently aquired 60's standard that was built Sept 23, 2022 is flawless. I have seen ones from earlier that should have never passed QC though.
I absolutely love my Gibsons. I have a 2019 Standard Bourbon Burst, 2020 Classic Honey Burst and a 2020 Slash signature Anaconda Burst and all three have been superb. They all came in perfect.
I did the exact same thing in shop class - I built a flying V. Turned out terrible. I didn't know the neck need pitch and the action was so high off the board I could barely play it bit it looked cool.
This month I went into a saga of finding a good gibson. First one was a Les Paul Special tribute 2020, it had hair inside of the finish, and a fingerprint finished in the back of the neck.
The second one, also Les Paul Special tribute 2020, had a truss rod cover bent, and it sounded really dull. Ok, so I went and bought a full blown 2020 Les Paul Special Yellow TV, the nut was abismal, cut so low, I couldn't play an open high E, the pickup was so wobble, I thought It was not screwed right, but it was, I think the springs were in bad condition. The Binding, it had such a big ledge from the binding to the neck, it look like it was scrapped with a kitchen knife, the truss rod was near of being maxed out(in a 2020 guitar). Absolute garbage.
I went to l&m and returned it for a les paul jr, no binding, no springs, les opportunities for Gibson qc issues, this guitar is great now.
From all this, I recommend never buy a Gibson online, and if you are going to test one, bring a checklist of things. I love Gibson, but the QC is so bad, you will have more misses than hits when buying one.
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Igor Fleury "the nut was abismal"
that's what she said
I own 3 Gibson Les Pauls and I love them even more after seeing this great series and the faces of the people who put their heart and soul into each and every one. You guys are great!
My respect and overall attitude with Gibson has me conflicted. With their QC issues over the years it has led me away from the the brand. It was hit or miss with the quality, sound and play ability (tuning issues) with the brand. Then after promoting a Slash guitar which Slash never played but was a Gibson replica made guitar, and yet Gibson profited off of, well, what can I say. Then they start suing companies over body shapes. How desperate can you be! Why because in my opinion they are looking for licence fees. Two of my favorite companies in particular, PRS, which they lost against and now Keisel over their SC and V series guitars. Gibson, stop with this crap, I would love to get into one of your Custom Shop guitars but your business practices are pissing me off.
And they STILL won't beef up the headstock joint ffs.
just use painters tape before painting save hundreds of dollar and deliver a better quality instrument, the Gibsons at the stores all have a poor binding job, lot a mistakes for the price you ask
Tomorrow the 22nd will be exactly one year since I received my Gibson Custom Shop 1956 Goldtop and to this day when I open up the case it still takes my breath away! Keep up the great work Gibson!
Very cool!
William: Why are you not playing your '56 Goldtop?
@@bertgetner9397 I play it everyday👍
The bill would have taken my breath away!!! lol
only 54 days without an injury ????? damnnn
Gibson Les Paul is number one please send me a Gibson Les Paul
These women do an amazing job, outstanding. Do you find that women are more skillful at detail work such as this? And yes... I understand that men can do it, too. This is an honest question!
Boy, oh boy
I love double bound guitars
I have that classic color bleed into my binding from the red dye they use. It's also kinda all over the place as the binding is scraped lower than the surrounding wood and not very uniform, anywhere.
Kinda laughable, that the import Epiphone I bought is less than 1/6th the price and flawless to boot.
I love Gibson les Paul guitars
I would love to take a tour of this place
Keep up the wonderful work Jim
They pay their workers less than the price of a new Standard a month...
Nope that’s fake news. Easily they’re making 25 or more an hour, easily 160 hours at 3000-4000
Is that why so many of those people have been there for decades?
@@andy_182 No we're not Andy, no we're not. ,,|,.
@gibsontv I have tried out 4 T.V yellow 2019 Les Paul Specials here in the U.K and every single one I turned down due to terrible neck binding gouges and scraping. Very ugly deep gouges and not what you want or expect on an instrument of that value. A real shame really as the rest of the guitars finishes were nice but this totally takes away from it (you are looking at the neck and fretboard most of the time) and it looked dreadful and obviously not something you can do anything about (apart from not buying it).
I will try to find one that has been finished well but I really shouldn’t have to and find this very frustrating.
Really hope these comments from me and others are taken in to account.
Love all the contents of your channel !
Thanks for watching!!!
My new, $3K Songwriter Standard EC Rosewood Burst acoustic guitar binding is sharp, making the neck uncomfortable to play. Is there an easy fix for that? I would have thought it would be rounded, but it's not. I have a new Gibson Standard Les Paul 60s arriving today to replace the guitar I returned for problems related to actual guitar function...strings fretting out no matter where you set the bridge or truss rod. Sent a 61 standard SG back because it had1/4 inch and more lacquer sprayed onto the fretboard above the 12th fret on both sides. Not having much luck here lately with you guys.
Like roasted ducks from oven
Well I just got a cme exclusive SG BRAND NEW…all these women would explain why my binding looks like someone filed it with a cheese grater … a $2500 guitar should not have sloppy work like that. Very disappointing
Love how gibson is liking only positive comments
Jose Salazar you don’t say, moron, they aren’t gonna like negative comments
@@seamusforpresident3670 I'd love to see them at least reply "I'm sorry that you (and a lot of others) have had a bad experience... these things are hand made, etc. and it's part of their charm" or some other bull shit.
Michael Sobot everyone is just annoyed because they are really expensive, and jealous because they can’t afford one
All Chinese women? Basically an epiphone with a gibson headstock logo.
@@seamusforpresident3670 Hit the nail on the head lol.
Scraping on my new 50's Standard was very good, however, there was clearcoat on both sides of the nut. Also, the nut was very rough with sharp edges. I took care of all this myself in a couple of minutes but at this price I shouldn't have to.
same issues on my classic!
I have 1 gibson. A Les Paul classic. It’s my favorite guitar. Of 28. And by the end of this year I’ll have another, in the next 5 I want a true Gibson Les Paul Custom. I hate how expensive they are but after watching this, and knowing the amount of work that goes into just one of these instruments…it’s worth it. Gibson USA!
I have a 2016 Dot es 335 suddenly appear 2 cracks in the lower ear...I want to ask....where is your prestige as a guitar makers? You disappoint me a lot
If only the quality of the guitars matched the videos production value.
Lol every process known to man sometimes has issues. this is a hand made instrument. I’d like to see you do something this skulked, I only play Gibsons and I’m proud to do so.
@@thefilthygringo9228every single guitar is man made. Even the cheap ones. That's a pretty bad excuse.
@@HCkevnot an excuse I own several les Paul’s and I alway happy with my purchase.
Just love this series, Thanks Gibson, JC you da man!
Thanks for watching!!!
“Typically takes them 6 to 8 months of training”. I just got a 2022 60s standard that has a HUGE ledge throughout the whole body. In the high e string side, where the neck meets the body you even need magnifying lenses to see the fret nibs as the scrapper has eaten through 99% of the binding. This was an absolutely awful job by an unskilled person and should have never passed a QC check even if it was an Epiphone. I have another 2019 60s that has a perfect binding job so think that Gibson should start thinking about training them for 2 years instead and probably trying to lower employee turnover as the person who did it in 2019 is most probably gone looking at the 2022 LP I got.
JC!!!!!
I just received a Gibson custom shop 1959 reissue ES 355. For a 6000 guitar, I really had high expectations- but upon grabbing it I immediately noticed the neck was uneven with the binding. The neck is wider than the fretboard binding and that just feels weird on my thumb. My way cheaper 2005 SG doesn’t have that. Is this a 1959 thing they are trying to replicate? Or poor QC?
Been plsy guitar professionally for 4 years, own several Gibsons. The weirdest thing to happen though was buying a brabd new SG from Gibson and the bridge was leaning forward and i took out the bushings after seeing something stuck in it.. under the bushing was a squished ear plug.. still undure if it was accidental or for some reason added to try to fix a leaning wrongly installed bushing 😅 either way I sent it back.
I re painted my les paul earlier this month before this video came out. I tried the whole scrape the binding thing and it was SO hard. It turned out ok but not super crisp like out of the factory. Wish i could have watched this before hand and pick up some tips
The way this is filmed disgusts me.. Everything that follows this post 2016 focus on certain aspects... The reason Movies completely s.ck. This world is ill. Remove the Fed.
I've loved Gibson for over 30 years, but every time I've decided I want to buy one, the ones I ordered or tried out instore have had such piss poor build quality that I never end up buying and forget about it for a few years. Had to reject a 50s Faded this week because the binding was so bad. Asian build quality is far superior to American. Too many people have been brainwashed to not believe it though which is why these companies get away with manufacturing second rate products. Having said that, hopefully one day I'll be in the right place at the right time with the right amount of disposable money to find an LP I can keep forever.
QC issues on Les Pauls are ridiculous. Unbelievable shoddy work for how much they charge for them.
What causes the white cream binding to turn clear looking? I got one of the rejects that was cut into really deep on the bottom around the pickguard. There's this really deep cut on my 1950's Les Paul Standard model. The guitar sounds great though. Only wish they would have given me a discount but I didn't record video on me opening the case. So they'll just say it was something that I may have done.
Guide Sticks, different Blades ... couldn't you just invent a tool to do this for you? I mean it's just a bearing router but the blade would be on the outside. This will spare you the 6-8 month training and no one would notice.
Only because you make traditional instruments doesn't mean you have to work like its 1950.
My gibson came with nicks and dents, the wrong tuners, lopsided knobs, frets that were burred and unfinished, and poorly taped pickups with wiring issues. Real top notch work coming from made in the USA. My $50 starcaster from china plays and sounds better than my $1500 les paul. Oh also if you rub the back of the guitar at all you hear static and popping through the amp so it must be great for performers... too bad it was my first guitar and I was too naive to return it and buy a different brand.
6 to 8 weeks of training??? BS, I bet Gibson doesn't even provide 6 to 8 hours of training. I've seen CHIBSONS with better binding jobs.
I did just get a Trad Pro V and the binding has scrape marks all over it and it was poorly done. For another example, the binding isn’t even close to flush as well. If that’s a trained worker, I’ve had Chinese guitars with better binding. But it’s my first ever Paul and I won’t send it back. Besides it does sound and play great. Just dissatisfied with what they’re saying here about the great job they do.
Gibson, get with the times. Painting over and then scraping back the binding is a primitive, slow, and error prone way of doing it. Use 3M pinstriping blue plastic masking tape, tape off the binding very carefully, paint the guitar with its color coat, quickly remove the tape before the finish builds a strong film, and you've got a perfect binding job already done that takes a LOT less time and effort than it ever takes to scrape the paint of all the binding. Plus this makes it far less likely that the binding will get over scraped or gouged.
I build guitars myself. And I've scraped binding like you do. I've switched to taping over the binding before the color coat and it takes much less time, much less effort, and gives a far superior result. If it can work for me, it can work for you.
I just purchased a Custom Les Paul 1960 standard reissues. I just returned a Custom Les Paul 1960 standard reissues. I was very disappointed. I purchased it form Gibson online. First off, it seemed like it wasn't shipped properly. The strings were to full tension(not sure if they are supposed to be or not), but the selector switch was broken and made its way behind the guitar where it scratched it just a tiny bit, and the aluminum fell off one of the knobs. I have a feeling this guitar was already purchased and returned (arnt they supposed to have a sticker on the pick guard? and one of the bags in the case was already opened) The big problem I had is that where the binding meets the mahogany on the neck there was a ridge, a substantial ridge, as if the binding wasn't thick enough for the channel. I couldn't believe that a seven thousand dollar guitar, their "pinnacle of craftsmanship" had a ridge like that, and it was on the neck so it was very uncomfortable. I dont have a place near me where I can test this guitar out, and most stores dont have one of these on the shelf. So if I really want one, which I thought I always did, I have to try and order it again, which I probably will give it one more try.
Since I was a kid I dreamed of owning a Les Paul just like the greats, I was finally in a position where I could afford it and I was very let down. The thing is, when I called them to talk I was very nice and calm, but the guy on the phone didn't give two shits, he didn't want to even know what the problems were, he never apologized on their behalf, and it just seemed weird, like they just expect customers to be disappointed.
So what you're telling me is: Your guitar cost so much because Karen over there needs to be paid more than some Indonesian who does a better job. Right? Guess that's the soul.
Clearly by the way the fret nibs look these guys aren't getting good training or just plain aren't getting good at it !?
I've got a 2017 SG cherry burst and it's got pretty good nibs, not perfect but not bad by any standard but they play just fine and I wouldn't have bought it if were crap.
"The" Jim Decola? The wolfgang designer JD? thats awesome he's there now
That’s our Jim!!!
the binding on the fretboard of my 2019 sg standard was kinda dodgy. theres one part were chunks of the binding were scraped away and there's still a bit on finish on the binding.
My 2022 LP 60's standard that was built this past September is flawless. I have seen older ones that should not have passed QC though.
The real good ones are out there. Play it and look it over in person.
I dont know who scraped my ES-335 but its not very good. Maybe a trainee? Good thing thats only cosmetic. It plays like a dream !
Unfortunately the wood on my neck is proud of the binding on the fretboard. Like they scraped too much away. You can feel the ridge where the neck is wider than the binding. Pretty shameful for a $2000 guitar. Looking online this is not an uncommon issue.
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So that's why binding isn't flush or consistent. Fair enough.
Amazing craftsmanship. I watched this video because I bought a guitar with dings and cracks and wanted to know how to paint around the binding.
And you smaller guys, using our method. We're looking out. We see you. And you'll be hearing from our lawyers. We will protect our brand
I love les pauls and bought a gibson exclusive 60s les paul standard beautiful guitar up till you see the cut out .they did a terrible job on the scraping.A lot of paint still on binding. makes binding look crooked.
54 days without an injury.... Keep up the good work 💀💀💀 1:12
Bad ass/passionate offering from JC. All in !!
Notice all the women here ? I believe it was Leo Fender who first realized they have the patience
for work like this. Then, wiring circuit boards or winding pick ups (Ybarra?).
Hey Gibson your binding is poorly done on 90% of your new guitars. Fire someone and do better because all others brands are doing smooth to the touch binding.
I know somenof them are smoothe but most arent. This just shows me you guys can do it well and just let some pass that are shoddy.
I bought a Les Paul Burst in 2015 I had to have so much work done to that guitar. It was unplayable out of the box. I just bought a gold top standard LET ME SAY THIS QUALITY WAY UP. This guitar is perfect (Fit, Finnish and Tone) everything on it is perfect. Is Gibson back HELL YES!
Thanks for standing by us over the past few years!!!
I also bought a 2016 manufactured GLP. Same poor quality you talk about and still having work done. I am reluctant to buy Gibson again but let’s see what the future holds. I hope they are truly back to stay. 👍🇦🇺
@@jimmyjimmy951 replaced nut and plek fixed mine. Sweetwater did mine. Isrial is my rep.
My Les Paul has been totally amazing! The fit and finish is impeccable! Thankyou Gibson employees for your hard work and attention to detail!
Thanks for watching
The rolled binding on my 97 LP special is a bit sketchy, but it's perfect on my '19 SG 61 stop bar. I dig the new owner.
Absolutely these guitars have a soul! Every individual that plays a part in the creation of these instruments leaves a trace of themselves! Thanks you to all production workers for your quality and expertise!
What’s name of the song in 1:30 minutes?! Please
The score for the entire series has been Nick Perri from Nick Perri and the Underground Thieves
Newbs are trained and then “allowed to practice on guitars in production.” 😂😂😂
I had all those expectations but did not expect to buy a new 2016 Les Paul Standard in 2018 with grounding issues or fret markers that lift. I keep watching because I am interested in the manufacturing process of my guitar but it starting to grate when I hear you bang on about craftsmanship and quality. It’s just not their in reality when it comes to my USA Les Paul. 🥺
Безусловно Gibson LP самый лучший в мире инструмент! Жаль что стал недоступен!( Удачи и процветания!
Hey Gibson, what can I do if on my Les Paul part of the binding on the neck is too scraped? (Came like that from the factory) is there a way to fix it?
u should return it if its not too late
6 to 8 months of training for that process, this is very exaggerated
says the gentleman who never did anything with his life.
I have a dream: one day Gibson and Fender doing a collab, even on a guitar cable or a pick, because I love what are both doing, especially Gibson.
Fun fact, the intro music was recorded on a tele deluxe
I'm in LOVE with the women from the binding and scraping department. LOVE YOUR WORK LADIES !
So do we
@@gibsonguitar what the fuck?
@@ff-qf1th 😂