F1 might get a NEW points system in 2025!
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- It's not confirmed yet, but if the F1 points system does change, is it any good? Who does this help, and what would it change in the Drivers and Constructors Standings?
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00:00 F1 might have a new points system
00:52 What's the point?
03:29 Will this make the racing better?
04:12 Is F1 adding more teams?
05:10 Prize Money
06:31 Would this change previous seasons?
07:46 Conclusion - Авто та транспорт
Yes. It's the best thing that could happen, aside from points until 15th. It clears part of the noise from lucky points, which is exactly what we want.
Points until 12th is perfect, any more and you will end up with some races where every finisher gets points
Motogp has that and is pretty good
@@Codi95but there are more than 20 people racing
@@Bigerburger Yeah but a lot more riders crash so often times as long as you finish a race you are very likely to pick up some points which is how it should be.
@@Bigerburgertrue, but it's not 30 either
Consistency is key..and this will produce good racing too..they should definitely introduce new system
Mr V:"the top ten is locked out"
Lance Stroll:"am i a joke to you?"
My bad, never underestimate Lance's ability to go backwards (or into the back of someone else)
Yes
Yes Stroll is a joke
Additional point is reliability of cars. In the past we had 6 or 8 pointed places. Now cars are more reliable and scoring for bottom teams is much harder, because multiple DNFs from top teams is ultra rare.
yeah, I sohuld have said this more clearly at the start but that's one of the main reasons for this. If the top 5 teams don't DNF or crash (which is becoming more and more rare) then those places are locked out
I really hope they implement this system. Makes those "lucky" races less of a factor and as you say it rewards consistency. I also think it would make for a much more exciting race for those of us that enjoy storylines across the grid.
It shouldn't be any lower than 12th. Gives 3 places for RB, Haas, Sauber, Williams, Alpine and stroll to fight for instead of just 1. Any lower would remove the excitement of watching the lower teams trying to fight for the last point positions.
I agree, I think this is the lowest it should go otherwise you start to get them for free with DNFs. With today's reliability though getting any higher than 10 is so unlikely
@@MrVsGarage Require finishing the race to receive points. Easy.
@@MrVsGarage I think adding points down to 15th while also increasing the points received by 1st and cascaded down solves that issue and actually encourages bigger fights around the back of the grid than just adding two more grid places.
The FIA needs to tell the rally department how to make a points system that benefits fast, consistent drivers and that isn't a complete fucking joke
I don't mind it, gives a few extra positions for the bottom five teams to fight hard for
Top 4 teams and Alonso.
About time. Points to 12th is reasonable and easy to implement, not requiring any major changes to the points system - simply changing the last few points places. With 18-20 cars routinely finishing races now - unlike say the 1980's when every car still running might finish in the points, which were only paid down to 6th - it gives the back half of the field something to shoot for. A reason to show up.
A weekly release schedule? Its locked in, you're my favourite F1 youtuber
hey if people like it why not 2 in a week? 👀 (not this week but maybe soon haha)
@@MrVsGarage oh stop it, I can only get so hard
I largely agree with more points. We reward consistency at the top end of the grid, so no real reason to not do the same at the bottom. I'd even go one further and reward points to anybody that finishes a race.
Only argument I can see against it, is that for some odd reason we view points as some sort of reward, when really they should just be something that defines the order of the grid by the end of the season.
Maybe, but then teams might nog take as much risk, since losing all points is worse than gaining a few points just for finishing. If you happen to dnf you lose out on way more.
I'd upvote this twice if I could tbh - the point of points is to decide prize money, not an end in itself.
I can see merit in leaving some non-points positions at the bottom because the racing often doesn't differentiate 17th from 19th, and to avoid someone who crawls over the line 2 laps behind getting 5 points because of a handful of DNFs. Would encourage teams not to just retire because a shunt puts them to the back though, which is nice.
@@CrimVulgar nah points also define order and placements for viewers and everybody involved to compare which is nice. Just look at football it's the same there
Points for everybody that finishes is just nonesens. Top 12 is ok. Also Points do not only defines the grid by the end of the season , it does it every race because it is constanly changing
I like this proposal in general, but it feels very biased to a field of 5 good teams & 5 not-as-good teams - i.e. what if a backmarker team gets their crap together for next season, and now we have 6 "competitive" teams, and 4 backmarker teams? Should we then change the system to 14 points-scoring-positions to once again relieve the "one-good-race" argument?
Exactly this. The gap between the top and bottom 5 is a coincidence for this year, and not worth a knee-jerk reaction to the sporting regulations. Alpine are having a big off-year and also with Audi coming in soon there's no reason to believe the 5 good, 5 bad will continue
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As someone who is regularly invested in the mid field race, I want points down to p12, I think it would make things more interesting AND we'd have less teams finishing with 0 points each season (we should see less 0 point seasons lmao)
Imo the ideal points system is one where there are generally no 0 point finishes for a season, but whoever's last has only one or two points finishes. Since Manor, Caterham and HRT left (3 teams that, due to politics, had nowhere near the resources required to compete), the only team that's had a 0-point finish is Haas 2021, and even with points down to 12th they'd only have 1. Seems already pretty balanced tbh
Given how reliable modern F1 cars are, it seems absurd that finishing 11th gets the same number of points as not finishing at all
Yes! Seeing those results from past seasons is so interesting and I definitely like the change. Lawson equal to Ricciardo must be painful for Danny, but it does reflect how well Liam did in those few races
People definitely noticed Lawson don't worry , he got the recognition he deserves by being included in transfer market discussions noe
I think this is a better option to reward consistency over a season if you're very much in the midfield. With race completion so high now thanks to reliability improvements, teams and drivers can at least get some small sense of accomplishment for a 'solid' battle in the midfield.
I still think that rewards should exist for those "flashes of speed" as you put it. So keep a point for fastest lap. And then introduce a point for pole, or even a 3-2-1 for the top 3 in qualifying. Would recompensate the front runners who may feel aggrieved by more points available in the race, but could also reward a wild wet qualifying before someone tumbles down the order on a dry race day.
this is all very good. i have been advocating for this since 2019.
Dude, the proposed one is the one I used while playing with my toy cars 10 years ago...
I want to see the same scoring system as MotoGP, especially if another team is added. I'm actually not opposed to a system which awards points to every finisher, but that would require bumping the points for a win above 25. Just as in MotoGP, you would need to finish the race (maybe within some calculated limit) in order to receive points.
Finish the race without being lapped perhaps?
@@GuitarH3roMan My thought is that teams should be incentivized to keep cars in the race after sustaining damage, but only if they're not posing a hazard to the rest of the field. How far into the race the damage occurs would greatly effect if they're able to finish on the lead lap or not, so I think it would be more fair to have something like "must maintain average lap time of the field + 10%".
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If the goal of increasing the number of points-scoring positions is to filter out some noise and make the standings better reflect performance, why not give points for every finishing position? I can think of a few reasons: 1. Points are a reward and it feels wrong to reward bad performances, even if someone else was marginally worse; 2. There's already a countback system that takes into account non-points finishes as a tiebreaker; 3. We don't want a close championship decided by someone finishing 19th; 4. It'd be much harder to compare performances to seasons before the system was introduced. Okay, so we won't give points all the way down to 20th. How about 19th? 18th? The same arguments apply, though of course they get weaker as you go up. Ultimately the cutoff is arbitrary wherever you put it, but 10 feels right to me because it's exactly half the grid. If we were to get two new teams, then I'd be happy for points to go down to 12th.
I agree it's arbitrary. Obviously something like 3 is too small but 20 is too many. Somewhere in the middle makes sense, I personally am fine with 10 or 12. I do think it makes sense as the number of DNFs keeps going down, you can have people putting in good performances in bad machinery like Albon so it's nice for them to sit above worse drivers in the championship
Point 1 is important. This is already the second most generous points system ever for second place (2nd gets 72% of a win, only the short lived 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 system brought in to stop Schumacher was better for 2nd place) and the most generous points system ever for positions 3rd or lower (3rd gets 60% of a win, points go all the way to 10th place despite having the smallest grids ever) and it’s probably about time that the next reform swings a little more in favour of recognising excellence.
50% of the field is good. It means that a driver/team has to be better than average to get on the scoreboard.
If lower positions get their points increased (or introduced), the same should happen to higher positions to ensure that the championship standings reflect what people see on the race track. A good 12 place points system would be 30-20-16-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1.
I agree with your point 2 - the countback system for breaking a championship tie is solid and doesn’t need to be fixed.
3 - this is one of the risks you get if you go for an American style points system which is more about promoting artificial championship battles than crowning a champion whose title has sporting merit. People are not stupid, they know who the best drivers/teams are because they see them on the podium every couple of weeks.
4 - I think the ship has already sailed on the issue of having different points systems, as different eras already need to be compared using percentages.
I would love if they did something like this:
P1 = 12pts
P2 = 11pts
...
P12 = 1pt
So the battle up front would stay close for longer and this system would demand a lot of consistency from the drivers/teams. Plus if we have a driver domination, it would take longer for him to get isolated in the lead
I'm not a fan of reducing the top points necessarily. On the flip side of what you said, if someone does take a lead in the championship it's then much harder for someone to catch up
@@MrVsGarage hmm, never thought about that. I used a similar system in an igp manager league I hosted once, where the grid was so competitive that the league had a record of 8 different managers winning in a season and 4 managers going to the final race fighting for the title. Maybe because of that I haven't seen the downside of it.
Also, with so many races, if someone opens a, say, comfortable 6 points gap, they'd be incentivised to race for podiums and only grab easy wins, and the last races would turn into a math exercise more than desperate battles for those juicy points. The difference between 1, 2, and 3 has to be enough to make it worth it to push to overtake.
Around here (in Brazil) we're used to having tight championships, where there's usually 3 to 6 contenders at the start of the last race. It happens with trucks, stocks, gt3s, everything, and the "magic" is a points system that starts deep in the field, but climbs higher for the podium.
2 years ago the 3 contenders for Stock crashed at turn 2 in the last race. Whoever got away there would be champ... but none of them did (Rubens Barrichello was the champion). Last year's Porsche t2 was also decided in a crash at the start between the 2 top contenders (Antonella Bassani was the champion). Trucks last year, same thing, only without a crash, and the winner was under pressure from the runner up in the final race until 2 or 3 laps to go (Roberval Andrade was the champion). The lesson is that they'd never push so hard till the end if the points difference at the top wasn't worth the risk. We'd have way more boring races, that's for sure.
I think when they went to 10 scoring places (instead of 8) the gap in points at the top just got way too big a reward for win/podium. I like the idea of it going down to 'wherever the dropout in the first round of qualifying is' (so currently 15th), which will reward most of the grid, but not all of it. It also would shift it with more teams assuming that 12 teams/24 cars would give 7 knocked out in each of Q1 and Q2 rather than 5, it'd take the points down to 17th.
But anywhere from 12-15th getting points seems reasonable to me to keep the fighting for points still open, but also not everyone getting anything to not reward caution.
[1st - 25, 2nd - 20, 3rd - 16, 4th - 13, 5th - 11, 6th - 9, 7th - 7, 8th - 5, 9th - 4, 10th - 3, 11th - 2, 12th - 1, 1pt fastest lap, 1pt pole] would close things up a little, keep the top reward the same, and spread the 'gain a position and get a bigger benefit' down a bit. 13th to 9th gain 1 by passing someone. 8th to 5th gain 2, and then each of the top 4 spots have increasing benefit to gain them.
I added in pole, and kept fastest lap as I think they're both worthy of points if we're scoring down to 12th. I'd also remove the requirement of being in the points from the restriction on fastest lap, so if you're having a really bad day, you could try and pinch it if you really wanted to and you weren't in the hunt for points otherwise. Not like people don't already try for it late when they've got the pit window already, and not like we would be getting rid of the countback tie breaker of 'highest finishing position' when 2 drivers are on the same points.
I wish some points for drivers that finish 12+ ... one point also for all those finishing within the same lap as the winner. This will motivate the weaker teams. 🙂
clearly now you need to go back and redo all of the history of Formula 1 but with the new point totals to see if it would have changed history
I'm starting to get the feeling you guys like seeing me suffer 🤔
In my opinion, every place should give a point. I drove a league race with that system, we were 40 drivers on grid. If you finish P30 you did better job than the one finish p31 and should be rewarded for it. And think giving point to everyone in f1 would be just better. Driver would fight hard even for the lasts places, with should be more enjoyable to watch.
I think because the average finishing cars are all time high it should be raised.
Also just a note: 7:13 Sebastian Vettel (not Sebastien)
As a Dane and obviously there for a big Magnussen fan yes please make consistency worth more than a lucky round for the smaller teams.
It will only help. All drivers, and constructors championship places are always calculated based on count back, so when a team or driver has the same points as someone else including 0 points, the place in the championship is decided by their highest placed finish(es), so having more points finishing places just makes it easier to understand for everyone.
I think it would awesome. Last year the first half of the year Yuki was snagging p11 left and right buy was stuck tied for last place in the driver's championship. Adding points farther down the grid only makes the racing better and makes the difference between a one off good performance and consistent good drives apparent.
Also with the new proposed points system 2021 max would have won the championship if he was in 2nd place in the last race as he won with a 10 point gap to Lewis but the difference between p2 and p1 is 7 points
You should analyse f1 story with this point system to see if something changes
My suggestion is simple: add a total of 7.5 points per race but by introducing steps of 0.1 you can slope it down to P20 creating a fair representation of the midfield while keeping P10 still a whole point more valuable than P11
P1 - 25 (no change)
P2 - 18 (no change)
P3 - 15 (no change)
P4 - 12 (no change)
P5 - 10 (no change)
P6 - 8 (no change)
P7 - 6 (no change)
P8 - 4 (no change)
P9 - 3 (+1)
P10 - 2 (+1)
P11 - 1.0 (+1.0)
P12 - 0.9 (+0.9)
P13 - 0.8 (+0.8)
P14 - 0.7 (+0.7)
P15 - 0.6 (+0.6)
P16 - 0.5 (+0.5)
P17 - 0.4 (+0.4)
P18 - 0.3 (+0.3)
P19 - 0.2 (+0.2)
P20 - 0.1 (+0.1)
I feel it would make sense to everyone that finishes a race to get points. Making every position and every qualifing even more important.
I think a hybrid system would be good. Not as many points positions as Indycar (obviously) but I like the idea of a pole point and led laps points. I also think that if they're going to give more points, slightly more points at the front would be appropriate, and make it so that there is a bit more disparity between the points in around the 6th to 10th position. 5 for 8th and 3 for 10th seem a bit close to me.
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Going to P12 is not enough in my opinion. To make it till P14 encourage at least top 3 middle teams to actually fight like the top 3 front teams, thus increasing the hype of the fight to get the middle spot. How the point distribution works, is to dilute point value from P14 to P8 and make an increment of 1 for every place higher, except P9 and P8 with 2 points increment.
Next... Participation Trophies and orange slices
This would be great
If I was the FIA boss, upon learning of the whole 'you gotta pay more the more points you score', I would raise the points for a win from 25 to 1,000,000. Leave the rest the same as A) teams lower down the grid won't have enough money to pay me 50 billion dollars a year and B) It would mean more kamikaze moves for the win and no more 'I'm gonna settle for second' business. Imagine how much more damage Multi 21 would have done if this was the case?
Tbh, the main reason i would expect this to help is by making the battles shown to us be actually more intresting. They would be less duking it out between 0 and 0 points, since the chances to get more point are higher.
IRT the more teams debate, I'd love to see how the results of the seasons with caterham, manor/virgin/marussia, and HRT making up the numbers would've changed with this points system.
Tbh I prefer the current system (unless they do bring in more teams). Having half the drivers score points is a good balance between rewarding consistency for the top teams and encouraging lower teams to go for riskier strategies to break into that top 10. The front of F1 is already too predictable right now, the midfield is the most exciting part and I feel like putting a bigger emphasis on consistency there will only make it more predictable too
Good point, it is always great to see one of the midfield teams try a weird 1 stop to 3 stop strategy and it actually pays off!
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Imo they should just give points across the board tbh. There are racing classes that already do that and I really don't see the point of calling it participation awards, like as long as you have beaten another driver you are eligible for points in my eyes. Just make it so that the last finisher always gets 0, regardless if they got last naturally or by having DNF's below.
The way it works rn there could be a team finishing higher than another in literally every race but always outside the points and than the other team gets lucky and gets one point finish and now they earned to be the higher ranked team at the end of the season? That's just backmarker lottery imo
do we know if they are doing it?
It also encourages drivers to go for fastest laps, if the 1 extra point is still a thing
I think you hit the nail on the head in the intro. I think the FIA would like to see more money and they're preparing for an 11th team on the grid
MotoGP points system feels like it could now work with a fastest lap point and maybe even scoring from qualifying could work if they just want to pump up the points system?
Every car that finishes the race within like 80% of the leaders laps should get points.
You already have to be within 90% to get points, otherwise you are not classified which is basically the same as a DNF
@@MrVsGarage Yep... and they should continue that but award points to each car that finishes.
Just my opinion.
Honestly I believe that the increased reliability of cars in this era calls for more points finishing positions. Having a more restringent system is fine if not all cars from the better teams finish almost every race.
The DNFs go down, the possibility of scoring for the bottom teams also goes down. Hence consistency is less rewarded due to an increase in the luck factor.
It all has it's ups and downs, I'd say. Back in the day when 22- 26 cars competed for 6 places in the points, finishing there was a real achievement and a P6 for Minardi are like a race win. Now they have less cars and half of them get points, maybe 60% even... Don't know, they should then bring in more teams or just make it so, that every one gets something.
Old man talk over... soo...
I'm not against it. If it makes drivers race harder, I'm all for it. And if it might be a step to getting more teams in, I'm even morer for it^^
But it just gives vibes of fixing the symptom instead of the illness. I'd prefer for them to somehow make the racing more competitive and then we wouldn't have this 4 class society between Verstappen, Formula A, Formula B and the Sauber pit crew, where the best some teams can hope for is getting out of the bottom 40%.
If it's the best they can do, then ok, not the worst you could do, but it feels a bit like a school that instead of teaching children just let's them pass with an F.
It's a weird one, because it feels like it's necessary but also like an admission of failure from the FIA and F1.
Consistency over peak performance always: a year long world championship is a marathon, not a 100m sprint, especially with all the restrictions in the regulations included in the last two decades.
I agree personally. With 3 engines and limited money to spend on new parts, staying quick over a whole season is a challenge
I think this is just meaning we are getting another team or 2. I know I am being very optimistic.
I know this will never happen, but I think there needs to be some sort of points system that discourages/prevents streaks of dominance and driver’s winning the title with 5 races left. Something like getting increasingly fewer points for each CONSECUTIVE P1 finish.
Although this would probably lead to drivers deliberately going for P2 or 3 to get more points, so I guess it would need to be driver based, not position based.
Two things, why not do 20 points for 1st all the way down to 1 point for 20th?. Secondly, why are point distribution uneven instead of 1pt gaps
Points are distributed unevenly to make gaining positions worth more.
Imagine a championship battle like 2021 where winning is worth 20 and coming 2nd is worth 19. You wouldn't see them fighting hard for the win, you'd see people slotting in and accepting 2nd, because it's only worth one point less. At the moment, those 7 points difference makes a battle for the win worth fighting for.
I'd be happy with this. Especially with how reliable the sport is now and you would expect more fights cause they probably would risk more if your 15th for example
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I don’t see any down sides to it (apart from the teams having to pay more). I don’t agree with Crofty’s idea of getting a point if you finish the race but this is a good system
I think there should be atleast a point for every car that finishes the grand prix and the other nineteen places can be adjusted according to that. This would make the whole grid fight for points while reliability and safely finishing also are very important. 1,2,3,4,5,7,9,11,13,15,18,21,24,27,30,34,39,45,52,60 for example. Only downside is that its hard to compare to previous seasons imo.
and FIA can change the money in these contracts per point as well
I am all for points going down to 12th (at least).
The way I normally look at these proposed changes is imagining it the other way around.
What if we already had points down to 12th, and F1 were proposing a change to cut points down to just the top 10. Would I agree with that? Hell no. And I like to believe that not many people would.
Couldn't agree more. People get attached to the status quo and so any new proposal seems worse, but actually if you flip it in your head like this it seems a lot less drastic
Consistency every time. That’s what makes a fast driver over the course of a race, and that’s what should set a team apart from the others over the season.
If more teams come it should be introduced but even with 20 drivers I think It'd be a good change
It's ridiculous. Points should be something to work and fight for, not just handed to the drivers cause they didnt even get to Q2 and 3 cars drop out.
12 points positions only makes sense with 12 teams, but as not even an eleventh was allowed, we are years away from that moment.
The teams now at zero points just need to work harder to develop their cars over the course of 2024....
Let's just give points for showing up in the pit lane 3 points if you show up on Monday, 2 points for Tuesday and 1 point for Wednesday.
Double points finale hit hard. Should come back
I wouldn't be against an Nascar/ Indycar Point system, but it should make a difference if you are 20th or 19th. Obviously change the money-for-point-system a bit then. Something like this:
20th - 1 (1 point between each)
19th - 2
18th - 3
17th - 4
16th - 5
15th - 6
14th - 7
13th - 8
12th - 9
11th - 10
10th - 11 (2 points between each)
9th - 13
8th - 15
7th - 17
6th - 19 (3 points between each)
5th - 22
4th - 25 (4 points between each)
3rd - 29
2nd - 33 (7 point to first)
1st - 40
sprint race opinion:
spring race should be the qualification for the full race, OR there is normal qualifying first, and then the normal race, but after the normal race there is a sprint race with 2 parts of the grid are in reverse just like in formula 2
that is how sprint worked at first. remember lewis brazil 2021. P20 to p10 sprint. P10 to p1 race. They changed it because it was essentially the first stint then red flag until tomorrow.
@@reet-ko9lg but they did give points for the sprint race
I hope F1 use this purposed pointes system
Should have compared new vs. old system against the 2023 system. There would have been a bigger change in results I think, especially around Tsunoda who achieved many P11's in 2023
imo just give points to every driver that finishes, if necessary even down to last place
while at it also lower the max points . from 18 14 11 9 and then count down
It will also help prevent teams from making a downforce-free rocket ship that they only score at Monza with (like Williams did the past few years) since it will be less rewarding to have a one-off race that you get a p6 in vs. consistently battling for lower points paying positions.
Nah honestly I like this kind of thing. Teams taking risks to specialise in specific scenarios means much more variance over the course of the season. I'd much rather have different teams scoring each week because their car suits the track than the same 5/6 teams scoring week-in week-out with the same design philosophy
Would love to see more seasons with this proposed system.
I always preferee more points scoring positions. I got annoyed at people saying "they are giving away participation trophies" like my brother this literally gives insentives to overtake, be more risky and fight at every or majority of venues
I agree too. Also, when people complain about "participation trophies" it's like.. do you not want them to participate?
@@MrVsGarage My brother I wanna see them risk WW3 just to get an additional point. Insentivising the teams to be competetive throughout the whole year will make for better racing, sometimes more risks, basically forces them to have good prep and supply to avoid a driver being without a car. I am always just puzzeled at that argument from people. I see them advocating for more restrictive points systems like only the top 8 or 6 only scoring points like what lmao
The arguments against are:
1. More points available means DNFs are punished harder. Every overtake risks a DNF so you could end up with scenarios like the 2021 sprints where there was very little overtaking as DNFs hit hard
2. The further points go down the more likely someone is to sit back on the points they have and not push for more. As it stands everyone outside the top 10 has to push hard and take risks for a chance to make the points, or even just to get into 11th and be the one to capitalise on a potential DNF up ahead. Most of the best racing so far this season has been outside the points, because there's been such a variety of strategies to try and go above and beyond, while the top 10 has been mostly a procession with teams not wanting to risk losing points and often not even trying to defend against faster cars because it's unlikely to work and just loses them time, meanwhile Magnussen put up a massive defense in Saudi with some big risky maneuvers because even though it was unlikely to work, it was their only chance at points so they had to go for it, and in this case they were rewarded for it
Just do 20 points minus the place you ended the race in and that is your points
I want to see drive fight for points
With more and more races each year and better reliability than ever before I agree that we need more points paying positions but I think things would be more interesting everywhere in the field if the spread worked something like this:
P1 - 25
P2 - 21
P3 - 18
P4 - 15
P5 - 12
P6 - 10
P7 - 8
P8 - 6
P9 - 4
P10 - 3
P11 - 2
P12 - 1
i quite like this, it encourages harder racing from the rear end of the grid. less times will be either people holding position or just letting themselves pit to end race. more incentives for car durability over car flash performances. it also is a lot easier to tell who a better driver is. sure, flashes of brilliance are amazing but the whole point of f1 is that its a SEASON so people like i think Tsunoda one year who get a million P11 but look as shite as the P20 drivers get shafted by the points as they are
This would only make sense if the grid was bigger. Like 24-26 cars. Something that probably won’t happen in Formula 1 again.
Points for every position besides DNF, DSQ, DNS. Make every position down to last place worth fighting for and put an emphasis on trying to finish the race.
Particularly enjoyed the sections on prize money and previous seasons. The cynic in me says the FIA want more money, but if that also gives more racing, then happy days. I personally think it's good that it doesn't really affect the drivers' standings at the top, but does affect the team standings at the bottom - the best drivers still win, and lower teams get rewarded for improved consistency.
it should be top 15 or top 20 , so that EVERY overtakes counts
Only teams that have finished in the bottom 5 since 2022 should be allowed to vote… Obviously would never happen and not fair, but would make it much more interesting since it mostly affects the bottom half.
You had the chance to zoom at a certain, french, blue tractor when saying "One of them has to be the worst" but you didn't...🙃
At least Alpine comes out of the pit lane again when they try to change tyres
Is there a chance that they will introduce it somewhere this year already? After the summer break for instance?
Definitely not. Changing the championship regulations after they have been finalised would require unanimous agreement from the teams and it is guaranteed that at least three teams (Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari) would not approve.
But why not do the points according to the average race finishing position (or give them “an inverse position” amount of points)? Wouldn’t that be a true representation of the drivers performance? Just thinking…
Stagring the points from 5th =10 points to 14=1 point would be better as it plays homage to the original point system which was 1st 10 points to 10th 1 point.
Ie the new points are to top 4 placed over the old system makeing the top 14 places all worth points makeing it overall more competitive lower down and more fair overall.
10 pts for 1st and 1 pt for 10th was never a thing actually. It was 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 so only top 8 scored points.
I like the 1-15 points proposal better, but teas the current system needs change.
I would love this new system
Can anyone explain to me why the 2021 championship has .5 points in some teams and drivers?
Half points for Belgium 2021 were they only did 3 laps
The Motogp points system is good tbf, but we need 2 more teams to implement it
makes me wonder what would happen if every finish in f1 history received at least a point. if you wanted to spend a few hours in excel
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It would make a significant change to the career of Narain Karthekayan, the only driver ever to finish a race in P24
than more points for race win
Aarava Mydriver season 9 ahh points system
When you said it would improve racing from P8-12, you weren't entirely correct. It would increase fighting from P11 down, but it would lessen racing from P7-9, as there would be just 1, instead of 2, points separating them
Funny thing is: I actually thought about giving EVERY driver points for finishing a race last season. So I made up a new points system for P1 down to P20 and actually... Williams is last right now this year...
(If I find the standings of last year again, Imma drop them down below.)
F1 WDC 2024 (after CHN):
1. Verstappen - 430
2. Perez - 360
3. Leclerc - 317
4. Sainz - 278
5. Norris - 257
6. Piastri - 186
7. Alonso - 159
8. Russell - 157
9. Hamilton - 112
10. Stroll - 80
11. Hülkenberg - 76
12. Tsunoda - 71
13. Magnussen - 69
14. Albon - 52
15. Ocon - 48
16. Zhou - 44
17. Ricciardo - 35
18. Gasly - 34
19. Bottas - 31
20. Bearman 30
21. Sargeant - 19
F1 WCC 2024 (after CHN):
1. Red Bull - 790
2. Ferrari - 625
3. McLaren - 443
4. Mercedes - 269
5. Aston Martin - 239
6. Haas - 145
7. VCARB - 106
8. Alpine - 82
9. Stake - 75
10. Williams - 71
So with the new points system in place looks like the two new teams joining the grid are andretti and porsche!!!
I dare to say, why not award points for every position? It will promote racing no matter how far down the line. Things that depend on points scored in previous seasons, like entry fees, can be adjusted accordingly.
POINTS FOR EVERY RACE FINISHER!
Would lead to every team trying to even repair cars and send them out trying to get some points shaking things up.
btw. great videos ♥️
thank you. I do like the idea, but I don't think we should encourage teams to lie and send a car out that isn't safe. You can fix a NASCAR for instance but an F1 car is probably going to tear itself to pieces... better that they retire
And they don't already do that? They get more value out of running and showing off the sponsors than getting a point for 19th. They just don't go ah no chance of points so let's not to bother repairing the car. The delusion!!!
Yes