what SHOULD we name the corners at the Las Vegas Grand Prix?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- You may have seen the "corner names" for F1's new Las Vegas race. Yes... they're dumb (they're also not real). But can we make them better?
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00:00 This is trash
00:10 You've seen the names...
01:52 Where do names come from?
03:38 Naming Las Vegas
08:48 The NEW track map - Авто та транспорт
I never thought that naming corners would be a concern, but now we gotta show Crofty this before Friday!
thursday*
YES
Yes FUCKING PLEASE
Been spamming Crofty's email all day, this is the most important thing that has ever happened in F1 ever 😤
THESE ARE EXCELLENT. LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN
Let's go full on NASCAR style with the corner names. "Las Vegas Grand Prix Nevada Planet Hollywood Turn for the Veterans"
The fact that reading this makes me so nauseous means it's perfect
I read that in Mike Joy's voice
No, NASCAR doesn’t do that. It’s more like, Turn 1, turn 2, turn 3, turn 4.
Should have done an honorary name for Carroll Shelby. His company (Shelby American) is based "in" Las Vegas.
That's perfect for turn 1.
100% this. Replace "Elvis" with the "Shelby S"
That's my bad. He can have Turn 1 in that case
Turn 1 should be Gerney, with the Shelby Ss
or, instead of Elvis, call it "the Cobra"
It would be so american if they just named them after sponsors or products. Amazon turn 3, Nike turn 5, Big Mac turn 7, Iphone turn 10 etc
Ah yes my favourite corner "Apple iPhone 10 Pro Max 128GB"
you're right but lots of circuits been doing that since the 90s (Fuji, Suzuka, some in spain,..)
Is that why soccer jerseys have ugly sponsors on them while none of the US sports have any sponsorships on the jersey
thats what i as a european was thinking :D@@cereal-killer4455
@@cereal-killer4455soccer also only has ads before, at half, and after the match while football has ads literally every 5 minutes. Since soccer has no pauses for ads the revenue has to be sought elsewhere hence jerseys having sponsors on them.
I actually really like these corner names. They add a lot of character to the lap that the layout itself lacks, while also simplifying the lap. I'm especially a huge fan of Paradise and Elvis, though Sands is also spot on for the desert location. Also, calling the back straight "The Strip" should've been obvious to everyone.
If I have to hear the word Boulevard 50 times I'm going to go insane so it had to be done
Boulevard@@MrVsGarage
@@MrVsGarage Sphere
> ... that the layout itself lacks...
And there's the problem.
If you have to resort to interesting corner names to make a track interesting, guess what? It's a dog of a track.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the newer street layouts at all.@@peterthomas5792
Let's be honest. The sphere chicane will probably just be called the Sphere chicane
The Phicane
the atmospheric chicken
THE BALL TWIST
The Gonad chicane
Rochelle and Palazzo are actually top tier for this track imo. Not sold on Turn 1, but there is a nice comedic thing about it that is growing on me
Corners get called what they get called. Who calls the first chicane at Monza the Retifilio Tribune? Nobody. It's defining characteristic is that it's first, not that it's in front of the grandstand.
T2 = back foot. Koval lane = pork belly straight, T7 front foot 1, T9 Front foot 2, T14 = Pigs tail, T15 Pigs ass, and so on,
Honestly Pig Belly straight is a good name
Saw a version on Reddit based on pig parts. Instead of “The Elvis Chicane” my vote goes to “Trotters.” Of course Elvis Chicane is too good a name to lose, so that replaces Cosmos
I'm personally preferential to "silly stompers", but trotters is good too
I also think the Elvis chicane being on the strip is more fitting
Trotters sounds like a corner on a UK club circuit. I love it!
I think turn one must be called 'the ace', because it's the first card in a deck of playing cards. Suitable for the first corner i think. Especially since you don't have anything on casino's yet
I like it! Straight into ace corner
PERFECT!
I wished F1 marketing was this bright for things that matter to us fans.
Hole shot on the ace = ace in the hole
Paradise, Elvis and Sands are the best names. Honestly I can imagine hearing the commentary already.
Also, love the touch just for Crofte, he'll spend all weekend coming up with drinks, and quips about drinking I'm sure. (Especially if someone goes off there!)
Thank you! And yeah, Crofty has to do a lot of talking each weekend, may as well help him out a bit
From what i remember, the Tarzan corner in Zandvoort is named after the farmer owning the patch of land where the corner now lies. He was known in town as Tarzan because he was a bulky figure. He didn't want to hand over his patch and turned out to be a tough negotiator.
yea he stipulated when he finally sold that the corner be named after him.
I really like Top Golf as well. That's the exact type of name parts of tracks deserve.
So many Golf puns are possible in racing context. Like "what a drive", "he's gone into the bunkers", "that sector is in the greens" and so on
Very imaginative names for the circuit. I think I would name the "Sphere" corner as "The Bubble" - derisory of the size and purpose of the Sphere. Elvis is best for Corner 1. Down the finishing straight and into Elvis - a sharp left handed corner.
I can just hear the drums kicking into jailhouse Rock as the cars whip it into t1 on lap 1
The track name should be Spider Pig
I came here for stupid and got genuinely good corner names. We must petition F1 to make these official
We should call the sequence around the sphere "the orbit". Similar to the sequence around the spider at Barber Motorsports called charlotte's web
maybe just turn 6 because it actually takes the path of an orbit
I wished F1 marketing was this bright for things that matter to us fans. We could vote on the names for each section and turn of the circuit.
I'm thinking about naming Turn 1 after a driver. Alan Jones won the 1981 Caesars Palace GP, the first ever F1 race in Las Vegas. Keke Rosberg corner could also be fitting since he clinched the '82 title there.
Tarzan corner: You are somewhat correct. According to Jan Lammers, the director of Circuit Zandvoort and resident of said town, there used to be communal gardens at that spot. The owner of the land on which those gardens were placed had the nickname Tarzan.
There's some good names there:
Aps,
Strip,
Mirage,
Cosmo-Aria Complex
HArbor island
Rochelle,
and I kinda like Top Golf.
those are all good in my books
I really like when corners have names. And big reason is that when circuits change, corner numbers may change. The left-right at the end of first long straight in Abu Dhabi used to be T8-T9, but with the changes introduced for 2021 it's T6-T7 now. And by the way, Okayama International Circuit (formerly Aida, where F1 raced in 1994 and 1995) has first corner, last corner and most of the rest named after former racing drivers. So it's not like mix of those wouldn't work.
Zandvoort Tarzan: The official story: before the circuit was built the area of the first corner was part of an allotment garden. One of the owners was nicknamed 'Tarzan' because of his physical appearance. This 'Tarzan' refused to give up his land until he was promised the circuit would name the corner after him, or rather his nickname.
Tarzan corner at Zandvoort is called that way, because it was the land owner wish to get the corner named after him when he sold the land to the circuit.
"I didn't come here for syllables, I came here to get to the point" - Gonna use that one
I will now be using these names for the Grand Prix! Big props for keeping Top Golf corner, already a classic.
For the turns 14-16 complex I kinda like the name “Cosmo-Aria” I think it’s a bit longer but the double name both sounds nice and indicates it’s more than one turn.
The others are pretty good but we NEED to get everyone on board with “the Elvis chicane” that’s absolute gold you’ve hit there
Fine, I'll do it myself. I hereby suggest to name turn 1 as Mr. V. turn!
(Mr. Vegas turn of course) ;)
Who said that's not what it's short for? 🕺
As always, original and interesting F1 content as we come to expect from you. Kudos Mr. V! And I'm so happy your channel's finally gaining some traction.
The "sphere" thing should be called balls
Big Balls - you’ll need them going into that complex at speed
Underrated comment ngl
Ooh, we're gonna get a corner named after Logan Sargeant christening of the track with it's first crash! Can't wait to figure out which corner will be named "Sargeant's Blunder."
This is unreal man! Great video. You deserve so many more subs
Maybe some gambling references , the Royal Straight (flush), the all in hair pin, the crabs shot
i'll 100% be using these names, gotta make sure they catch on!
I'm genuinely shocked your channel isn't larger tbh, this is some of the best produced F1 content on this site
Great videos mate
The dutch corner is called Tarzan corner because when the track was build a farmer named Tarzan wouldn't sell his land. But then He agreed to sell his Land if the corner was named after him
Hope that helped
Such a good video I mean this as a compliment, every time I watch your videos. I'm shocked at how low your subscribers are. You're punching way above your weight and that's great
Rochelle sounds amazing. New fav. corner of the calendar
Well I’m definitely using those names come this weekends livestreams
I love these names. Hope they pick this video up and start using it!
just subscribed, I started to like your videos. kind of old school as well, the microphone and the watch.
I think some stretch of this asfalt should be named after 2-Pac, as he was killed there. Between Rochelle and Paradise lies the 2-Pac straight.
It will definitely be one of the races ever.
Since the track looks like an upside down pig, we should name the corners similar to that of the animals body
Great names! I will use these from now on.
If you look at the way the track bends after “top golf” corner, and the long straight proceeding it, it does kinda look like a golf club
"We're not just going to make up random names for each of these corners."
Me: Dangit! I was so looking forward to Corner McCornerface!
I never thought that naming corners would be the thing that actually would make me actually want to see the race lol
OMG man, I like your humor. It is not as radio actice as Daddy RPM, but its very very nice. Thank you for the content and keep it up ❤
Overall I really dig most of the names you came up with. Unsure about palazzo mostly. Cosmos was an inspired choice
This was a very enjoyable video!
Im glad that the straight after Rochelle is named after a former Driver Kovalainen.
But the Elvis chicane should be Hoof chicane. I can only see a pig when I look at the track.
It's a nice touch isn't it. Turn 1 is also named after former driver One Pablo Montoya
The city of Paradise exists because it’s actually not a city at all- being unincorporated meant the casinos could operate without paying a city tax.
I like the idea of people having trouble in Paradise
I think instead of Elvis chicane it should be called the Sinatra chicane. I always associated Elvis more with Hawaii than Vegas whereas Frank Sinatra’s name is synonymous with Las Vegas.
Either that or the Rat Pack chicane. Still maintains the Sinatra reference and also sounds just silly enough to be an F1 corner name
Turn one is called death corner because of the pit stop exit covering the racing line
Minor correction. Stowe at Silverstone is a Location not an Honorary corner name. The village of Stowe is right near the track. Like Arnage at Le Mans.
All on point! Nice
I'm honestly not worried about naming those corners. Corner names naturally arise, even without a central authority. For the Circuit de Monaco, turn 1 is named "Saint-Dévote" because it's in front of the Saint-Dévote Chapel. Turn 4 is called "Casino" because it's right next to a casino. No one ordered people to call them that way. It's just that whatever name that made sense stuck.
Don Rickles, Dean Martin, Wayne Newton, names like that.
I like that this video exists and I agree with everything you said and I should email it to the organizers
For Elvis, give it globe maybe, because that’s another word for sphere
Name ‘m all ‘Casino’.
Tarzan is named after a guy who was nicknamed after the fictional character. Zandvoort also has a ‘No Name Corner’.
8. The Dip or The Hook.
Also, if you use ‘Bus Stop’ at Spa, then you could use ‘Monorail’ at Vegas.
Well played Mr V. I could not really fault any logic
These actually work really well. I love the ring to them and they really feal deserved for each turn.
actually pretty fond of these names!
I'm so tempted to call Turn 13 "Unlucky". It fits the gambling vibe of LV and it fits a corner that shouldn't exist nor counted as a separate corner.
Name the corners after famous entertainers. Elvis Esses, Sinatra Corner, Britney Bend, Wayne Newton Turn, etc
From now on, every car in the process of traversing corners 6-9 is "Pondering the Orb"
Maybe let's drop the "top" from top golf and call it just "golf"? Feels like it'd be better IMO
Also if we want to actually come up with a name for T1 I put forward "Sinatra" or "Rat Pack", arguably the 2nd most associated person/group after elvis
Quite like this actually. I think Elvis is the only one I would change (Sphere chicane just makes the most sense because that’s the whole point)
Wait I'm not gonna lie I like ALL of these so much ahhaha
10 and 11 being a right-lefter complex, I'd feel 11 a little left out and deserving of it's own name or a combination, like Venetian Sands. But on closer inspection 11 appears to wrap around the high-rise of Palazzo, I'd be inclined to call it Palazzo.
That'd leave turn 12 nameless. Looking at the map, there's alternatives like Treasure Island and Wynn near that corner. Also the Lake of Dreams between Wynn and the corner proper. While the Wynn/Win might seem too easy, Dreams or Treasure may alude more to the reason drivers (and gamblers) are there: to win. (After all it's where they enter the strip.)
Considering the temperature and that brakes and tyres will be cold at end of the long straight, I would name that corner "Oh sh*t".
I really feel like these names should actually become a thing. Great choices!
the original 130R was in fact 130 radius.
Naming corners before a single race is run is the equivalent of giving yourself a nickname.
“And max verstappen starts his hot lap. Going sharp through *turn 1* and straight into *Rochelle*. DRS is on and he flies down the track. Now coming up a sharp turn, *Paradise* but he handles it like a piece o’ cake. Speeds it up, and into *Elvis* we go, a bit of a tricky one. He puts it down on throttle through *Sands*. *Palazzo* is the next corner. And the the best part of the circuit, the grand *Strip* when he speeds his car to 300+ km/h, straight down into *Cosmos* we go!. He has done a great lap and finally, full throttle into *Top Golf* will he do it, YES HE WILL!
Max verstappen goes with the fastest lap!”
That actually sounds really good!!
Great video again. I was pretty against your dismissal of the sphere chicane until you brought out Elvis, at which point I totally agreed. Would be good to see these get some traction (unlike the cars in vegas, am I right…?!)
We should have: Elvis, Sammy Davis, Franks, Bubbu Gumps for Cosmo corner, Bugsies, Wayne Newtons, Koval straight, and Wynners. Big Balls Chicane! Rat Pack curve.
Actually great video and dooe names
Even if it never goes official, the meaning behind the Elvis chicane is too great to ignore
I'd like to see a nod to Fremonst Street, the original Vegas if you like.
Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel was instrumental in starting Las Vegas, it was just a desert before then, so Bugsy corner?
one of the early hotels, the 'Stratosphere' should be a corner name for sure :)
Outlying places include Boulder City, so Boulder (bend haha)
You have the Hoover Dam/Lake Mead, Hoover sounds cool for a corner.
You could have 'Lake' for a bend or straight.
Grand Canyon is not that far (in US distances anyway)
Other notable places not too far with cool names are Death Vally, Zion Canyon. From Death Valley (the lowest point in the US) you can see Mt Whitney (a great a name for the mountain and artist)
Red Rock (Canyon) is also cool :)
red stream and steep hill are my favorite corners
I'd change Top Golf to "Dogleg", because that's what the shape would be called on a golf course.
So, im not gonna use all of them, but im definitely gonna use some of them tn while watching it with my friends.
Tracks naturally get their corner names from drivers, both between eachother and their crew.
How about: T1 Homeless, T2 Exotic Hooker, T3 LSD, T4 Drunk palace, T5 The Johns corner, T6 Orgy explosion, etc ...that would fit Vegas perfectly
I will be using these.
That's actually a really good set of names
Think you've found a new career mate
10/10
Wow this is legit pretty decent, nice!
You should name the corners the same way you name your streets. "First Corner", "Second Corner", etc.
Petition to call the first straight “Tupac Straight” because he was shot at Koval and Flamingo
As Forestfan said, I think The Bubble would work better for the triple chicane next to the Sphere, but we have the left turn between that and Paradise that we can call Elvis. There's also a missing corner name after Sands, so let's call that Jones after Alan Jones, the first winner of two Caesars Palace GPs (the other was Michele Alboreto, and there's already an Alboreto Curve, even if it's really Parabolica). Finally, Top Golf can be shortened to Golf. It's just easier to remember and isn't tied so much to the company.
Turn 13 that isn't a turn which is next to the Ceasers Palace Casino should be called "Jones Corner" after Alan Jones who won the first Caesars Palace GP
you missed an opportunity to name a left-right complex Sigfried & Roy
Petition to call the sphere section “dome chicane”