Steam Ages in Reflourished is GREAT: Here's Why

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  • Опубліковано 15 лют 2024
  • this video is an honourary Here's Why video because heck you this video took me ages to make jesus christ.
    So, Reflourished. Probably the biggest mod we've seen PVZ2 have for years and years, and yet it took me this long to talk about it. Of course, I then made it into the second longest video on my channel (First longest is OMORI, if your curious. This video is way better than that one, duh). I have a lot to say about this collection of 32 levels through a mix of overanalysis, and my overwhelming addiciton to Plants VS Zombies 2, it seems.
    Still, Reflourished is a heckin' cool mod. And as it has finally gotten an update (a few months back now. I started this video close to when it released, if you can believe it. Whoops!) that I think most people can agree on as genuinely great, its very much worth discussion. I may never have a chance to do this again so screw it. We are making this long. Very long.
    With all that said, as is becoming my staple, I am sorry this took so stupidly long to make between uploads. I think I've given up having a consistent schedule, and instead want to make videos I want instead of videos that you want. Because you are all beneath me apparently. Ha.
    But yeah, hope you enjoy. If you want to play Reflourished, it'll be linked beneath for Android/Android Emulators ONLY. I do seriously recommend it.
    Reflourished Download: • Installation Tutorial!...
    Reflourished Discord Server: / discord
    My Discord (which contains my mod as well wink wink): / discord
    Timestamps:
    0:00: Intro
    4:03: Steam Ages: in summary
    5:40: Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic
    10:58: The Eternal Dingus Parade
    18:11: The Steam Siege
    24:00: Big Boom Man
    26:49: The Plants
    37:24: The Pits
    42:50 The Level Design Shift
    52:45 Conclusions
    Footage is from:
    Plants VS Zombies 2: Reflourished
    Plants VS Zombies 2: AltverZ
    Plants VS Zombies 2: Eclise
    Plants VS Zombies 2: Garden Rush
    (all are fan created mods)
    Plants VS Zombies. 2
    Plants VS Zombies 2 Chinese Edition
    The Sandman Short Film (Spook): • Sandman, The (1992)
    Music used (in order of appearance):
    Trees... - OMORI
    Eternal Dungeon - OMORI
    A Home for Flowers (Tuilip) - OMORI
    Steam Ages Demonstration Minigame - PVZ2 Reflourished
    PRANKED. - OMORI
    Showdown - UNDERTALE YELLOW
    Rigor Mormist (in-game) - PVZ1
    Chemistry On and On - OMORI
    Another Medium - UNDERTALE
    Forest Frenzy - OMORI
    Steam Ages (original) - PVZ2 Chinese
    Vigorous Terrain - UNDERTALE YELLOW
    Mining Co. - UNDERTALE YELLOW
    Relaxation - UNDERTALE YELLOW
    NMT Choose Your Seeds but in the style of Garden Rush - • Neon Mixtape Tour: Cho...
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  • @taghreedali1948
    @taghreedali1948 3 місяці тому +1236

    I love how clockwork zombie has a pufferfish in his head. No reason, it’s just there

    • @razzyromeo
      @razzyromeo 3 місяці тому +65

      Swimmy swimmy

    • @macnzee7572
      @macnzee7572 3 місяці тому +100

      As someone who knows why, my hint to you is "use the commadore"

    • @c5h87
      @c5h87 3 місяці тому +21

      sounds like an attempt to make a heart

    • @Feranogame
      @Feranogame 3 місяці тому +109

      I love how it is a twist on other robot zombies
      Other robots look like animals but are actually robots inside
      The Clockwork Zombie looks like a robot but is actually an animal inside

    • @AustinFire
      @AustinFire 3 місяці тому +41

      It might be a reference to how pufferfish toxins would create "zombies", essentially comatose people who'd wake back up in their grave

  • @Frugthereal
    @Frugthereal 3 місяці тому +702

    "I will not be as negative with mods anymore" Creeps when second half of the video walks in

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 3 місяці тому +15

      Yeah; I lied.

    • @jacksongreen4107
      @jacksongreen4107 3 місяці тому +143

      I think it's more of a "reverse clickbait warranty." The negativity is qualified and reasoned, and you need to actually watch the video and hear the reasoning, which reduces the likelihood it will be taken out of context. Creeps has recognized that they have an significant audience, and is taking care to ensure nobody gets overly influenced to dislike something by just the thumbnail.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому +14

      Its curious because so far (20 minutes in) is one of the first Creeps videos im starting to disagree with.
      I may make an edit once I watch it all , maybe.
      So, edit; one thing I specially disagree IS on the take that overall is a bad thing to make the world overwhelming and/or too niche.
      Now, I may imagine why they this, and its because power creep, funnily enough;
      As this is probably the last world you may gonna play for Reflourished, making It on a diferent take as other worlds is actually a good thing for me. Adding that this world It make me to use plants that otherwise I wouldn't think I would use It.
      Power Creep also explains tanky zombies. Lets be completely honest here; PvZ2 always had these trait integranted on It design maybe to incentivice some actions -microtransactions- or maybe to always use the newer plants.
      So having an strong treat isn't as weird as It may sounds. Personally, I enjoy strong treats mini Boss like zombies that acts diferent as Gargantuars, and mechanic zombie seems a good idea on general. Most plants does a very good job as well if you know how to use them. I Saw here peanut as a very reliable early game plant and combined with Pumpkin It was a very powerful defense. Same I could say about other plants (this world clearly incentivices Pumpkin imo)
      Otherwise, I actually agree with this video, I could imagine where Creeps came from, is a very mechanical person on that regard for what I often see from his videos, but I actually would put SA much higher and why not, HM as well on that funni tier list.
      Maybe because I also give credit on other things such as style and music, and most of players as well (NMT being a main favorite makes me think so) so its no wonder why so many people enjoyed as much as me.
      Maybe because I overall enjoy more Reflourished, but opinions are good to differ to not make world monotone, eh?

    • @jacksongreen4107
      @jacksongreen4107 3 місяці тому +22

      @@JoseViktor4099 Hey, that's good! In the end, what people find fun is objective. Game Design isn't an exact science. Disagreement is totally valid, people with followings just have to be a little more careful with how they express their opinions.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому +14

      @@jacksongreen4107 Indeed. As always , I think that is good for a person to express a sincere opinion that, while careful, doesn't need to appeal the masses,while the people who hear It to consider that opinion, instead of straight Up disagreeing or worshiping It, to think about It and make their own conclusions.

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 3 місяці тому +269

    Whaaaat? I love the sound effects of gentleman zombie. He’s hilarious. It’s not like this hasn’t been done before. The pirate zombie makes exclusive words that no other zombie makes.

    • @averagerick9581
      @averagerick9581 2 місяці тому +13

      I fancy a cuppa

    • @menialbee
      @menialbee 2 місяці тому +14

      "brains on toast" nearly killed me

    • @TheBananaMan971
      @TheBananaMan971 Місяць тому +3

      "braaaaaains ahoyyyyy"
      "braaaainssssss, guvnaaa"

    • @katifis27-levyoftheabyss98
      @katifis27-levyoftheabyss98 13 днів тому +1

      I agree! I really enjoy the Gentlemen Zombie’s lines. They are very fun and give the zombie a whole lot of personality. I don’t care what Creeps thinks of it, it brings me a lot of joy

  • @lilharm
    @lilharm 3 місяці тому +173

    it’d be cool if the buckethead’s candle went out when it’s been chilled
    it wouldn’t have any practical impact, but it’d be a neat detail

  • @scotterboi9
    @scotterboi9 3 місяці тому +569

    Wait didn't Timmy die? Clearly, the only way for this to make sense is if Timmy is actually canonically Jesus reincarnate.

  • @velky_reeds
    @velky_reeds 3 місяці тому +126

    I dont think people realize that during the production of Steam Ages in Reflourished, the actual steam ages boss in the Chinese version hasn't realeased yet, and by the time that the steam ages pt. 2 update was realeased in reflourished, the boss that the mod team made was almost completely identical to what the chinese version had, which is insane because it goes to show that the mod team could literally run their own game at this point

    • @pora5000
      @pora5000 3 місяці тому +34

      The devs said on Discord that the first concepts of the Chinese Steam Ages boss were already revealed during RFL Steam Ages’ development. The Steam Ages boss in RFL is their own take based on that first concept, while 2C also develops another Zombot design over time. Admittedly the Chinese version did way better on the latest Steam Ages Zombot’s visual design, but the gameplay experience in RFL is still way better than 2C nonetheless.

  • @CoralReaper707
    @CoralReaper707 3 місяці тому +528

    Steam Ages if it was actually polished:

    • @porgnotfound3170
      @porgnotfound3170 3 місяці тому +13

      It is

    • @iaminsideyourwalls2021
      @iaminsideyourwalls2021 3 місяці тому +168

      ​@@porgnotfound3170They're referring to the Chinese version which is buggy and laggy

    • @-rlmn
      @-rlmn 3 місяці тому

      ​@@porgnotfound3170if you say that if someone plays chinese steam ages at 3am their phone will break people will believe

    • @Idk_what_to_put_here
      @Idk_what_to_put_here 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@iaminsideyourwalls2021 its not actually really buggy

    • @FunnyTopHatFrog
      @FunnyTopHatFrog 3 місяці тому +28

      the exploding furnace zombie:@@Idk_what_to_put_here

  • @PenPenPending
    @PenPenPending 3 місяці тому +31

    Don't let children viewers' stupidity control the integrity and genuineness of your content.
    If you think there is a problem in something that you wanna talk about, talk about it.

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 3 місяці тому +45

    I love the atmosphere of this world. I just find it so cool to have a time period about innovative, steam-based inventions. The sounds of metal clangs and train whistles, along with the flying air balloon zombie and the clockwork zombie give off this air that the world has been mechanized in a completely unique way. Also, the gentlemen zombies are really funny saying stuff like "blimey" and wanting their tea.

  • @johnbendicio2637
    @johnbendicio2637 3 місяці тому +28

    2:14 I do remember that modern day 49 of reflourished is the only level where i lagged when i was choosing the plants due to the sheer number of zombies present on the preview screen and it took me ages to choose my setup 😂

  • @elfrangofrito
    @elfrangofrito 3 місяці тому +27

    It's interesting to see you think Holiday Mashup is a bad world, I thought it was fine at worst and pretty fun at best.
    It feels like you're an extremely hardcore tower defense fan that knows the strengths and weaknesses of the genre in and out, which is great in isolation, but maybe not a great fit for analysing a game mod that's mostly very casual.
    Nevertheless I really love your videos and how insightful they are and this is no exception.

  • @PdotUdotSdot.
    @PdotUdotSdot. 3 місяці тому +68

    I think the reason inventor zombie can be healed by repair imp is that the balloon is mechanical and they want the balloon to be healed however since inventor is the same zombie balloon or not the game also heals inventor without the balloon

    • @eldritch_whispers1654
      @eldritch_whispers1654 3 місяці тому +20

      he explained what happened in the video: Inventor zombie is considered a mechanical zombie (because of the balloon, obviously), but the Balloon itself counts as armor, which the repair imp CAN'T heal. That means the balloon isn't getting healed, just the inventor

    • @memerboi7128
      @memerboi7128 3 місяці тому +17

      @@eldritch_whispers1654insert joke about objectifying women

    • @PdotUdotSdot.
      @PdotUdotSdot. 3 місяці тому +3

      @@eldritch_whispers1654 thanks, I missed that while watching the video

  • @primalpeashooter
    @primalpeashooter 3 місяці тому +101

    my only major criticism for this world is that the clockwork machines and clockwork zombies are too strong (imo) but other than that i think it's an amazing world.

    • @emilydavidson8844
      @emilydavidson8844 3 місяці тому

      Magnet can remove the headgear

    • @primalpeashooter
      @primalpeashooter 3 місяці тому +15

      @emilydavidson8844 yes but it's really difficult to keep magnet shroom alive at the front and manholes at the back and can only take one at a time which can be way too long considering how much a level can use them

    • @emilydavidson8844
      @emilydavidson8844 3 місяці тому

      @@primalpeashooter pumpkin

    • @primalpeashooter
      @primalpeashooter 3 місяці тому +8

      @emilydavidson8844 pumpkin its quite expensive (for a wall) and has a long recharge, it also takes 2 seed slots to use magnet and pumpkin which isnt worth it and specials like barrel zombies and coal zombies completely nullify pumpkin as well

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому +4

      @@primalpeashooter Pumpkin underrated. Carried me for all Steam Ages.

  • @enderallygolem
    @enderallygolem 3 місяці тому +61

    I thought the tanky zombies were what made pt2 steam ages great to be honest.
    When every zombie doesn't die in 3 seconds, you actually have to strategise your defence against them. Strong specials are fun to deal with. Plus you can actually make tough levels that don't rely on ridiculous amounts of rush since this is vanilla pacing we're talking about.

    • @GrindyVine
      @GrindyVine 2 місяці тому +2

      The problem is that some High HP zombies is sometimes spam spam spam, or just have annoying abilities on top of their bulk

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 Місяць тому

      It helps that there is a relatively less tanky special that exploits this tankiness but when you add that tankiness and gargs which can take 2 instas and live ish it becomes a bit of a slog especially when you are just reusing similar builds over and over again.

  • @sunmoonfx8251
    @sunmoonfx8251 Місяць тому +6

    Gentleman: "Bloody plants."
    Creeps: "time to turn off sound effects"

  • @maniadotcom6539
    @maniadotcom6539 3 місяці тому +69

    MD-49 is my favorite level in RFL. This level IS the Ultimate Battle. Everyone is after you!

    • @yanderekobeni911
      @yanderekobeni911 3 місяці тому +2

      Same, Modern Day-Day 49 is just pure chaos and I love it.

    • @diputsnoob3815
      @diputsnoob3815 3 місяці тому +3

      I love that penultimate level (before zomboss 2.0 fight) of each world is pure chaos
      No strategy, just go full gun blazing

    • @yanderekobeni911
      @yanderekobeni911 3 місяці тому

      @@diputsnoob3815 The finale before the boss fights in PVZ2 Reflourished are good because it's the calm before the storm.

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 3 місяці тому +27

    I love this world, but I have some big problems with it still. You can't plant non-instants on the tiles that the mechanic takes up, which is annoying if you want to plant a spike weed and a lot of the right most tiles are already being occupied by the manholes. Basically, when the mechanic shows up, the two rightmost lanes are basically all dead tiles aside for instants. The fact that the mechanic can't be defeated with a lawnmower is really, really dumb in my opinion because being one of the most threatening zombies that can't be destroyed by the lawnmower makes him overpowered to the point where he is probably the most overpowered zombie in the game. This is more a recurring problem with the game in general, but I wish that if a zombie carries something, that it isn't countered by burning and electric plants. That just feels like an awkward counter because it makes no logical sense that a fossil from Jurastic Marsh or a metal machine can get burned up, especially when no animation shows the object getting burned. It just makes the counter of magnet shroom less optimal than something that makes less sense like a fire pea.

  • @marcosettembre
    @marcosettembre 3 місяці тому +21

    You forgot to mention how mechanic is impervious to lawnmowers

    • @Dijinut
      @Dijinut 3 місяці тому +7

      He's WHAT?

  • @RandomDude1487
    @RandomDude1487 2 місяці тому +8

    Rare footage of Peanut being useful in PVZ

  • @ironmilutin
    @ironmilutin 3 місяці тому +20

    Do you think that the gimmick would've been less of an issue if you unlocked pumpkin instead of peanut, and pumpkin worked like a lily pad where it would let you plant non-wall plants onto sewers if they're plugged up by pumpkin?

    • @foxinabox5103
      @foxinabox5103 3 місяці тому +5

      Imo maybe, i dont agree with the issue of unlocking pumpkin naturally. Gems are easy to get and you can buy lots of gemium plant without the time limited events.
      But i agree that pumpkin should act like a lily pad for manholes.

    • @LUCAS420BLZ
      @LUCAS420BLZ 3 місяці тому

      Used pumpkin religiously in this world and I wish he was a world plant
      It is understandable he'd counter the mechanics if given for free

  • @adweck
    @adweck 3 місяці тому +156

    WTF??? but didn't Little Timmy died already??? The creepsish lore is messed up....

    • @TickleMyPickle_
      @TickleMyPickle_ 3 місяці тому

      intensive carrot revived him its fine

    • @qwacktrap1459
      @qwacktrap1459 3 місяці тому +14

      Little Timmy revived himself to watch his favorite UA-camr that he has a very parasocial relationship with

    • @rhinowithInternetaccess
      @rhinowithInternetaccess 3 місяці тому +4

      Maybe this a prequel to his death

    • @jmatt440
      @jmatt440 3 місяці тому +1

      little timmy multiplied years ago and creeps never mentioned it

  • @JoseViktor4099
    @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому +12

    Reflourished as a whole is one of my favorite mods. They already did an excelent job with Holiday Mashup (the one who decided to have mini-bosses along some levels deserve a -raise- kiss) so it wouldn't surprise me that they took it to make this controversial world , which fun fact one of the developers made a famous video about it and made it so much... Better?
    Damn and its impresive because it this world was released by Popcap this would be one of the best worlds in the game, no question.
    Really talks wonders about the skill of PvZ modding community.

  • @NeoBing
    @NeoBing 3 місяці тому +18

    This is a really nice summary on your thoughts on Steam Ages (and sometimes of Reflourished in general), it's paced very well and goes into depth on the nice pros and admittedly pretty big cons of the new part of Steam Ages. Seeing this video has definitely made me have some hope for the future of this mod, and I might actually decide to pick it up again if it continues to trend to a good direction. I do still think that your Power Creep video is the best video you've done so far but this video was no slouch either, since the upload schedule has slowed down, I can only hope to see better and better content on its way.
    (also i may start subtitling videos for you again bc damn that intro was hard to understand at points)

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 3 місяці тому +15

    Although I don't agree with Creeps on everything, he should be the lead level designer of PvZ3. He clearly has way more passion about PvZ level design that probably everyone else working on that game and would definitely make better choices than them.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому +9

      Indeed, although Creeps has potential to do rather a masterpiece or Good Timing (dont let him touch Vasebreaker ever again)

    • @nickk3077
      @nickk3077 3 місяці тому

      @@JoseViktor4099 still better than PvZ3 vasebreaker

  • @aceae4210
    @aceae4210 3 місяці тому +23

    transparent text transcript at 29:45 (text is messy, but is the onscreen text)
    "
    i was always bad with probability but
    i'm pretty sure it would be more
    accurately be some nonsense like 9s
    because of nonsense i do not
    remember maths. get good at it.
    "

  • @The_30629
    @The_30629 3 місяці тому +33

    so what we can all agree on for mechanic is simple: He's HIM

  • @DTMP
    @DTMP 3 місяці тому +9

    felt bad for stealing the first comment so here's an actual tidbit that Creeps forgot:
    Mechanic is doubly dangerous because of how he is coded. the game will spawn a new wave of zombies if the previous wave is damaged enough, usually. with Mechanic it is different: his HP DOES NOT count for this process. so you can kill Mechanic first and the next wave won't be triggered. however, because Mechanic has so much HP, it's far more common that you will hit other zombies first, and now the next wave is triggered while you have a 3k HP zombie spawner to deal with. and if said next wave has another Mechanic... you can be combo'd to death easily. out of all the traits Mechanic has, this is what makes him such a pain to deal with.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому +1

      Huh, and Clockwork Zombies work diferent? Rather is a similar thing?

    • @DTMP
      @DTMP 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@JoseViktor4099since Clockwork is spawned from Mechanic, they don't count towards wave progression either.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DTMP Ah, I see, so I suppose It shares Code with the LC Imp.
      Pd: Btw hats off for your mod, I haven't played the new release yet, but It looks amazing Indeed.

  • @TFisthepointofthese
    @TFisthepointofthese 2 місяці тому +4

    My brain...hurts...trying to comprehend what you were saying in the intro...Good video though

  • @chinchillin242
    @chinchillin242 3 місяці тому +17

    Please subtitles! I cant understand any of the intro

  • @trinstonmichaels7062
    @trinstonmichaels7062 3 місяці тому +7

    Let's hope future modders will learn from reflourished.

  • @selk8389
    @selk8389 12 днів тому +1

    bowling bulb really pops off in this world and holiday mashup

  • @welkin7321
    @welkin7321 3 місяці тому +6

    this was a really awesome video and it’s rlly cool that you can see how much effort you put into this! i would love to see more comprehensive reviews of mods like this video! that would be awesome if you wanna pursue this stuff more. (but i get if you wouldn’t bc it’s time consuming)

  • @ohhi687itsme8
    @ohhi687itsme8 3 місяці тому +9

    47:05 *Hmmm, where else have I seen a level that has every special and "Don't lose X plants" that was bad? I almost can't remember*

    • @cloudy28
      @cloudy28 3 місяці тому +4

      the curse of the bwb day 28
      petition for the next world in reflourished to also have the "don't lose x plants" objective and every special on day 28

  • @Nar31
    @Nar31 3 місяці тому +4

    Bowling Bulb is actually insane in this world; would recommend if you struggle against Mechanics

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 3 місяці тому

      Maypop is a flat out upgrade over BB

  • @codymead1334
    @codymead1334 3 місяці тому +1

    I just completed Steam Ages, and I enjoyed it a lot. mainly the music, it's so good! also Citron is my beloved.

  • @richardmeulenkamp7343
    @richardmeulenkamp7343 9 днів тому +1

    Steam ages made by PVZ2C as most of the steam age plants this is just high quality

  • @larrydupp3988
    @larrydupp3988 3 місяці тому +4

    I wonder if a reverse version of Mechanic would be possible to create, where something absorbs other zombies until it reaches capacity and makes one big one

  • @frankjelica5439
    @frankjelica5439 2 місяці тому +1

    Aint nothin' good like a Creeps20 video with that OMORI OST

  • @rexyht2697
    @rexyht2697 3 місяці тому +6

    Pvz2 reflerished is one of my favorite mods alongside altverz and the new worlds can be fun and I am excited to see what's next.

  • @trekkinmain4974
    @trekkinmain4974 3 місяці тому +1

    This mod is f*cking awesome. It takes me back man

  • @NothingCycle
    @NothingCycle 3 місяці тому +1

    Just watching your video wondering if you upload, definitely didn't expect this!

  • @DARKDERD5854
    @DARKDERD5854 3 місяці тому +5

    It`s not GREAT , its GEARt

  • @tylazermk8271
    @tylazermk8271 Місяць тому

    I've been playing Reflourished for a few days now, and I haven't had this much fun with a PvZ tower defense in years. It's genuinely an amazing mod in my opinion.

  • @guyfoxyinc.8042
    @guyfoxyinc.8042 3 місяці тому +4

    Could you do a video on lava guava? its honestly my favorite plant for some reason

  • @FreakoNek
    @FreakoNek 3 місяці тому +7

    bro is speaking xqc

  • @RandomDude1487
    @RandomDude1487 2 місяці тому +1

    7:07 Song: Showdown! from the Undertale Yellow OST

  • @MutelyMutel
    @MutelyMutel 3 місяці тому +5

    40:32 got a smooth bowling bulb to sun transition. You're welcome.

  • @halfapoptart
    @halfapoptart 3 місяці тому +1

    hey creeps i just started watching you again i started watching at when you ad like 5k subs or smth but what app downloader do you use

  • @Johnny10-man
    @Johnny10-man 3 місяці тому +3

    Plant idea: Napalm Tree
    Sun: 175
    Usage: Single-use, instant
    When planted, it blows up, dealing 1 insta-kill of damage in a 3x3 area and coating said area in fire
    -the fire lasts 30 seconds and deals 1.25x pea damage every 1.15 seconds
    -you can plant plants on the affected area while the fire is there, but unless they are fire-based (like snapdragon or fire pea), they will also take damage
    -if affected area includes water, the affected water tiles will boil instead of having fire on them
    -explorers and their varients will be reignited upon entering the area
    -all damage dealt via this plant (by it's explosion or otherwise) is fire damage
    -fire will warm plants nearby and set tumbleweeds on fire
    Probably needs balance, what do you think?

    • @Zeldrake
      @Zeldrake 3 місяці тому +2

      sounds just like cherry bomb 2: boogaloo edition

    • @caediciusmatson7036
      @caediciusmatson7036 2 місяці тому +1

      I think it would be better to make it light an entire row (not lane like jalapeno) instead of being a strictly better cherry bomb.

    • @Johnny10-man
      @Johnny10-man 2 місяці тому +1

      @@caediciusmatson7036 do you mean column?

    • @caediciusmatson7036
      @caediciusmatson7036 Місяць тому

      @@Johnny10-man yeah I knew, I just wanted to be clear about it. (Also haha responded to a month old comment)

  • @kregheckel3628
    @kregheckel3628 3 місяці тому +24

    To be fair, your video didn't sour that mod's reputation.
    That dev who shall not be named was already doing a good job with that before they got exposed for all the vile stuff they did. :v

    • @purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633
      @purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 3 місяці тому

      What did goodpea2 even do

    • @pommromm
      @pommromm 3 місяці тому

      ​@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633Be racist, narcissist and defend a ped* at one point. I'm sure there are many videos on UA-cam about it that you can look up

    • @kregheckel3628
      @kregheckel3628 3 місяці тому

      @purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 best thing I can tell you is look it up for yourself because it is not suitable for this comment section.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633Did a lot of things. In one sentence, it did the things you might expect when someone becomes blind of influence. And hate for Vietnamese people as well.

    • @purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633
      @purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 3 місяці тому

      @@JoseViktor4099 what do you mean hate for vietnamese people? he quite literally is vietnamese, that whole thing was a misconception

  • @tylazermk8271
    @tylazermk8271 Місяць тому

    Question about 38:30, what makes Sling Pea wrong here? Is it the gems? Because I feel like by the time you get to steam ages you can afford most gem plants, so I might be missing something.

  • @HoverMelon2000
    @HoverMelon2000 3 місяці тому +5

    No way Undertale Yellow music in the background I knew clicking on this video wasn't a mistake.

  • @fulookin6701
    @fulookin6701 3 місяці тому +3

    An hour long yapping session 🥱

  • @ghost-knighthd7704
    @ghost-knighthd7704 2 місяці тому

    Do you plan to do another few videos on pvz2 alternate verZ?

  • @RyanDxxx0
    @RyanDxxx0 3 місяці тому +25

    Certainly an intro of all time lmao 👏

  • @lovesgarfield-com
    @lovesgarfield-com 3 місяці тому +14

    Mechanic took about 5 people to animate, including me

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  3 місяці тому +11

      yeah that sounds about right

  • @LaserZman
    @LaserZman 19 днів тому +1

    I bet nobody will see this comment, but full grown ultomato hard counters mechanic. Although if you're only able to get 1 max one due to having a bad economy you can micro it with escape roots, saved me a lot of pain on the later levels

  • @aceae4210
    @aceae4210 3 місяці тому +9

    I know creeps is saying steam ages, but all I'm hearing is "c mages" (sometimes "c majers")
    think it's because I the "t" in ste isn't being said
    really good video disregarding that

  • @damienshingledecker2312
    @damienshingledecker2312 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Creeps, can you make your next plant specific "Here's Why" video on Spore Shroom? I don't care in what way, I just think it is a super interesting plant

  • @NexoNexus
    @NexoNexus 3 місяці тому +1

    I heard Showdown theme in this video
    Now i cant stop panicking about undertale yellow

  • @GNVS300
    @GNVS300 3 місяці тому +6

    Part 2 was underwhelming for me. While all the plant and zombie designs are good, and Maypop Mechanic is easily my favourite new plant in the mod (it's basically Bowling Bulb done right), a lot of the levels just consisted of Mechanic spam, which I'm pretty sure goes against the mod's desire not to spam tanky zombies, and their health is way too high. I did enjoy some levels (notably the Locked & Loaded levels, the 'Don't lose more than X' and the boss was decent too), but found the two Reverse Engineering levels to be ludicrously hard to the point they took the fun out of an interesting Brain Buster.
    Edit: BRUH no way are you slandering Maypop when you defend Bowling Bulb who is probably one of the top 3 worst plants in the mod

    • @RufioTheThird
      @RufioTheThird 3 місяці тому +1

      Oh shit, just looked through newest comments and found the king!

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 3 місяці тому

      @@RufioTheThird haha thanks!

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  3 місяці тому +10

      skill issue

    • @primalpeashooter
      @primalpeashooter 3 місяці тому +1

      mate bowling bulb is really good, just use 4 or more instant and stalling plants and you will see how busted he is, personally i use guac, squash, cherry/grape, and stunion

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 3 місяці тому +7

      @@primalpeashooter literally anything is good when using that many instants and stallers. BB is only decent for Plant Food or when first planted, his aqua bulb is pathetically weak

  • @MalJaws
    @MalJaws 2 місяці тому

    Barrel zombie was actually a cut zombie from Pirate Seas! It makes sense how it doesn't fit the theming, it wasn't made for it

  • @mintyaquagreen1675
    @mintyaquagreen1675 3 місяці тому +1

    Let me just tell you something. A mod that continues the story of its predecessor and tries the proper mechanics is the best kind.

  • @doniepaison-xb2nz
    @doniepaison-xb2nz 3 місяці тому

    What is your opinion on boomberry. I wanna know. Great ( long) video

  • @temp1894
    @temp1894 3 місяці тому +2

    So is reflourished a “what if” of pvz2 or is there something new or exciting to existing worlds?

    • @mydogghost
      @mydogghost Місяць тому

      Yeah more levels in them it’s pretty cool mod

  • @shadowfigure9306
    @shadowfigure9306 Місяць тому +1

    Please more of these intros i think they are kinda funny

  • @bluevines1303
    @bluevines1303 12 днів тому +2

    Dont blame yourslef for eclises fall that was entirely the creator

  • @rogofos
    @rogofos 3 місяці тому +5

    who else keeps hearing "C majors"?

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 3 місяці тому

      Casual song keys for hardcore PVZ fans

  • @donanilao7724
    @donanilao7724 3 місяці тому

    I would love a second Alterverze x Reflourished crossover just so I can experience Steam Ages part 2 in Alterverze.
    Also, this video didn't spoil my childhood innocence. You absolute scammer, Creeps.

  • @user-wv6po3fv6f
    @user-wv6po3fv6f 3 місяці тому

    @creeps20 what about hypnotising him? does it affect the machine?

  • @fuchschrafter8512
    @fuchschrafter8512 3 місяці тому +1

    what emulator do you use? i want to play pvz 2 on my pc but i have trouble getting an trustforthy emulator to get it on

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 3 місяці тому

      MIMU if im not wrong.

    • @mydogghost
      @mydogghost Місяць тому

      @@JoseViktor4099I use blue stacks cause it was the only one I knew of lol

  • @user-pt6gq3wi5i
    @user-pt6gq3wi5i 3 місяці тому

    You should try bean sprout it's really overpowered because you can also merge it with other bean sprouts for it to instantly become mad and also it gets healed, it's a peanut and pokra if merged if you also use the reinforcemint its so op

  • @wimby158
    @wimby158 15 днів тому

    52:37 Creeps turns into Pops from Regular Show

  • @zopriar5
    @zopriar5 3 місяці тому +13

    I've never heard of this mod! This world also seems really cool!

  • @afonsopolidoanacleto4285
    @afonsopolidoanacleto4285 3 місяці тому +1

    imagine if this world gets extra levels ,furnace zombie could spam from man holes

  • @ripleyandweeds1288
    @ripleyandweeds1288 Місяць тому

    the reflourished team put so much effort into Mechanic Zombie and the Clockworks that they made sure you see it in Steamworks, even if it kills you

  • @SpicyMediaReal
    @SpicyMediaReal Місяць тому

    Reflourished, is Aloe a viable option?
    Put endurian next to an aloe so the zombies get to chomp away at a damaging wall.
    Although that would take 2 seed slots away that could be dedicated to something that actually contributes to the team.
    Or the vents could just not be there or not allow zombies to spawn if a wall is placed there.

  • @Wrenchy247
    @Wrenchy247 Місяць тому +1

    This video is the definition of "I like this thing, here's why it sucks!"

  • @DJ_JOHNN
    @DJ_JOHNN 2 місяці тому +1

    Please talk about the animations in pvz2 for some of the new elements or plants are severely cut down and choppy asf

  • @joshualeespiny7172
    @joshualeespiny7172 3 місяці тому +2

    Every time you said "Steam Ages" I heard it as "C majors"

  • @ItsMeHernandez
    @ItsMeHernandez 3 місяці тому +16

    9:11 female balloon zombie jumpscare

  • @SuperDZ555
    @SuperDZ555 3 місяці тому

    6:57 holy shit undertale ylelow ost

  • @coffegaming4523
    @coffegaming4523 2 місяці тому

    I really want reflourished to add the colosseum world and the z corp world and chinese one to Its like a nice thing to do and it will gather alot of attention

  • @2345Z
    @2345Z 3 місяці тому

    So, thoughts on Steam Age's Zomboss fight?

  • @Cycle2947
    @Cycle2947 3 місяці тому +1

    Haven't seen the video yet. Just wanted to come down here and announce that

  • @youforgotthelinkinthedescr6798
    @youforgotthelinkinthedescr6798 3 місяці тому +5

    You need subtitles.

  • @shadowstorm_plays
    @shadowstorm_plays 28 днів тому

    14:14
    ...
    BLOODY PLANTS

  • @doomslayerisunderurbed
    @doomslayerisunderurbed 3 місяці тому

    can't we use the blover to blow away the flying zombies? and E.M Peach to disable the mechanics?

    • @sm27.
      @sm27. 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes, we can use blover, but E.M. doesn't work on any zombies

  • @Th3RazieI
    @Th3RazieI 2 місяці тому

    Would love to find out how you manage to play PvZ2 on PC. I'd guess Bluestacks, but that then leaves the question how Mods work

    • @mydogghost
      @mydogghost Місяць тому

      I mean just watch the altrev mod download guide by itsp and apply that rule for most pvz 2 mods.

  • @unknownymousc4262
    @unknownymousc4262 3 місяці тому +1

    can I use the same account from pvz2 or do I have to start over ??

    • @unknownymousc4262
      @unknownymousc4262 3 місяці тому

      @Juna4774 is there a tutorial for this ?

    • @unknownymousc4262
      @unknownymousc4262 3 місяці тому

      @Juna4774 hello

    • @sm27.
      @sm27. 3 місяці тому

      ​@@unknownymousc4262 Yes, you can find the pvz AB Fan official installation video. there's is a time stamp where they teach you how to transfer progress

    • @sm27.
      @sm27. 3 місяці тому

      ​@@unknownymousc4262ua-cam.com/video/fvd7HTI02h4/v-deo.htmlsi=gV1jnF_WMor2ZR4C

  • @sterlia5915
    @sterlia5915 Місяць тому

    My biggest question is whether the original steam ages world mechanic would have been better. The biggest problem I have with that mechanic is that the sewers would skip almost entire lawns. Of course, this is level design, not the mechanic itself, but it can be frustrating all the same.

  • @Jerold_Howard
    @Jerold_Howard 3 місяці тому

    Babe wake up creeps just uploaded a new video

  • @Death-mg8gc
    @Death-mg8gc 3 місяці тому +3

    Esteemed colleagues it is the entirety of my pleasure to commemorate this video's long awaited release.

  • @ringer1324
    @ringer1324 Місяць тому +1

    I genuinely have no idea what creeps is saying here 0:12

  • @fluffybat5421
    @fluffybat5421 3 місяці тому +2

    Omor…

  • @FlashOfAsh
    @FlashOfAsh 3 місяці тому +1

    14:15 is that an actual sound effect from the gentleman zombie or are you doing a joke i can't tell

    • @DaNoob1485
      @DaNoob1485 3 місяці тому +2

      It’s an actual sound effect.

  • @PinkEndymion804
    @PinkEndymion804 3 місяці тому +11

    Who knew that The Mechanic is still one of the strongest and popular zombie in both PvZ 2 Reflourished and PvZ GW1-2…

  • @togeluga_the_cat
    @togeluga_the_cat 3 місяці тому

    despite loving everything reflorished offers with its steam ages, i do still do full heartedly prefer the PvZ2C zomboss, the fight is much more intresting and not as generic as other zombosses, despite the absurd difficulty i still love it a lot more then the reflorished one, plus the chinese design is much more intresting

  • @timedeathe
    @timedeathe 3 місяці тому

    would i be allowed to use the gear spinny boi it fits well witj a planned tower defence

    • @timedeathe
      @timedeathe 3 місяці тому

      37:41 then your really hate ravengers imagine chickens octo and skull in one package spammed

    • @timedeathe
      @timedeathe 3 місяці тому

      46:05 I can make something even more difficult

    • @timedeathe
      @timedeathe 3 місяці тому

      Maybe I've learned that having more dangerous specials need counters

  • @Dark_Slayer3000
    @Dark_Slayer3000 3 місяці тому +3

    7:00 Undertale Yellow music, awesome!
    This is the song "Undertale Yellow OST: 070 - Showdown!"

    • @Dark_Slayer3000
      @Dark_Slayer3000 3 місяці тому +1

      YOOO There are 3 more after this! But I just found out, he did write the names of them in the description already lol