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The fact that they said “this is not a drill” DURING THE DRILL is so messed up. Can’t believe the school tried to blame the students for that.
I can.
I can believe it. Sometimes kids my age can be so stupid and not take the drill seriously. Even when they said it wasn't a drill, you would see people ditch class, mess around and just not take it seriously. They just need to teach kids to take it seriously all the time, or we're dead
@ That was a big problem when I was in high school. No one took drills seriously. It was always an opportunity to get out of learning & to socialize with friends.
Samantha Jiménez Usually drills are announced to staff and students days prior so people know its a drill. Thats why they slack off. If the alarm goes off randomly or the speakers go off then staff and students obviously know there isn’t a drill. You’re an idiot if you think the school’s decision was okay.
@ But that's an entirely flawed argument, if you say 'this isn't a drill' when it actually is, people are going to care even less. It's like the boy who cried wolf, no one is going to believe you when it actually happens for real, they'll just think it's another drill. You can't just say that 'this isn't a drill' and not think that it's going to go to hell
The story involving the drill was reminiscent of that one episode of the office where Dwight causes a fake fire in the office, causing panic and chaos, and once everything is settled, announces that it was a drill
As I was watching the footage of the running outside its exactly wht i was thinking
But Dwight did start an actual fire in a trash can.
That episode was on two days ago lol
I’m completely fine with drills, but when someone over the announcement says “THIS IS NOT A DRILL” that typically means that this is a real threat
seriously.
I disagree 100%, look at our vets, sure we put them through intense training, we get them physically stronger, and increase their mental endurance, but "some how" they still comeback with ptds (I know why, no disrespect to anyone). But its a serious problem when these kids cant even identify a threat, because they dont take their training seriously till they believe the threat is at the door. In my opinion its the influence of word of mouth, that has been destroying how these kids see things. Also continuous banging from a jackhammer, come on you know some asshole kids just wanted out of school that day.
@@barodrinksbeer7484 Some schools don't handle drills very well. It sounds like this is one of those schools. My school makes the distinction very clear. They will tell us that it is a drill before they even initiate it, or our teachers will be like, "Hey, there's going to be a drill in this period or at this time." With a fire/tornado, the school officials say nothing, the alarm just goes off; teachers will usually warn us in the case of a practice drill. Unless it's true or they make it clear beforehand that it _is_ a drill, a school should never say, "This is not a drill." It can cause mass hysteria and result in injuries, as in this case. In this case, the school was stupid to treat a drill like a serious threat without warning students and staff that it wasn't. It was not the fault of the students. They took it plenty seriously.
Honestly you didnt hear what I said, you can never be prepared for the real thing. You have already been briefed on the basics of the drills you should take in situations that could cause you harm. Now the only problem is that these kids dont TAKE IN THE INFORMATION, LIKE YOU! Kids arent supposed to be on their cell phones during a drill, if I wanted to I could of planted a rat in some kids phones, being able to read their texts during the drill, while they are saying mom dad come and help school shooter in room b-123. How they run out the 1 main door they use to enter the lunchroom, while it is mandatory to have 4 exits in a room that is used for a school lunch room, even in small schools, no doubt they know about the exits to. But hey sure the schools saw massive failure in the training they tried to teach these kids, but it shows how these kids like you dont take in the information that they learn in training, and apply it to their everyday life.
Also I believe your not taking the drill seriously, because you would have made the same decisions these children did and panicked, it really shows in how you write, your sympathetic of them because you would break in a real situation to. Im not saying your weak, but your not prepared at your age for any situation, you dont think what will I have to think about in a situation like that.
@@barodrinksbeer7484 How did you possibly get all those assumptions from the way I write? I'm well aware that people will not react the same way in a real situation and that you can't really be prepared, I never said anything about that. At 18 and graduating in half a school year, I should hope I'm able to understand that. People don't take practice drills seriously because why should we? After you've been through it eight times every year for twelve years, it's repetitive and only tells you what you already know. We understand after the first ten times. It's harder to take things seriously when false alarms are constantly used to teach you.
My entire point was focused on the school's phrasing. It has nothing to do with what I would do or what anyone else would do in a real situation. Of course people are going to text their parents while they're hiding from an active shooter, standing outside during a fire, or waiting for a tornado. How else are we meant to tell our families what's going on? Personally, I would probably call my mother just for comfort. Plus, many people will always act irrationally in a dangerous situation anyway, regardless of what they're taught. Fight or flight response. People won't always behave the way they're told in a situation of danger, especially if it's the first time. Maybe I would panic. Maybe I wouldn't. I don't know what I would do, and neither do you.
Were those "officers" charged with assault? Endangerment of a child? Excessive force? OF COURSE NOT! That officer pulled a taser on the public. At no point did I see any officer stop to listen or think. That entire situation could have been defused with a conversation. Instead we got a group of hostiles that forcefully captured a woman and took her child from her causing long term psychological harm (to the mother and possibly the child), temporary physical harm (both), and exacerbating the underlining issue (finances). The way they responded makes America look bad and it makes our police look bad. And if they're not dealt with, then it implies it's ok for them to do this. I was honestly waiting for the point where "And the police killed the kid on accident and then shot the mother".
"That entire situation could have been defused with a conversation" Exactly.
@gjaddajg I'd say no when an officer's entire body is pulling back on a small baby's body just to pull it out of its mothers arms-- you can see the officer is using its full force because its body is about to tip over backwards. That was a toddlers body it was playing tug of war with. They could have easily taken her to the car with the baby in her arms and transported her there and then removed the baby in a safe environment. The officer should have been charged.
Warrant for her arrest. Nothing to deescalate. A judge orders bracelets, the cops comply.
I was steeling myself for that moment too. I’m greatful it never came but that’s also not something a hunan should expect when watching a video of police ESCORTING a mother and child off government property that she was lawfully accessing OH WAIT
Stop embarrassing the country, police
That lady was the one who put her own child in danger. Gurantee you security was just trying to talk to her at first but she wasn't having it. She was probably the one that escalated everything with a bitchy attitude.
The way this school handled a code red drill was a showcase of utter incompetence and a severe lack of accountability.
I believe that could be said for both later "incidents". Incompetence across the whole goddamn smorgasbord
I was their and it was definitely not handled properly
Meh, it sounds like the surprise fire drills my school used to run all the time, though I am a bit surprised the staff were not told it was a drill so they could ease student concerns after it was all done. In the end, I guess everyone can agree that the school is not ready for if there was a real 'active shooter' situation.
KInd of like the US government when it comes to sensible gun control laws.
It's also as if the school district has never heard the story "The Boy Who Cried Wolf." If the school district does more than one unannounced drill, students will think an actual event is just another drill and could lead to more people getting injured or killed. Even if everything had gone according to plan, once everyone knew it was fake it reduces their trust in the system if there ever is a real, active shooter, crisis.
judging by the disorderly mess in the cafeteria, the students didn't seem to have much of a plan drilled into them as to how to evacuate. What's the point of a drill if you don't tell everyone what they need to do first?
THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT. they DO/DID have drills before, multiple times through out every year but nobody took them seriously, so when the time came when they thought it was real this is the kinda shit that will happen.
however, they should send out a warning to parents/guardians and local news stations BEFORE the drill, once the confirm the message is sent THEN do the drill
Herd mentality. You think your life is in danger you see people running and survival instincts kick in.
They do students dont listen...trust me when a real shooting happens its Everyone for themselves..your not thinking about any of your friends or teachers your mindset is to survive no matter what...yes practice is needed but when the time comes its Everyone for themselves And all politely or orderly exiting is gone.
I remember when I was in school, NOBODY ever took any drills seriously. Tornado drills, fire drills, code blue/red drills. They were literally NEVER taken seriously. It makes me so upset and even angry that even after the amount of VERY REAL shootings there have been, people STILL don’t take them seriously.
hubris mariah: yeah if theres a shooter im getting tf out of there
Wow I saw my tweet. But let me just address that our school wasn’t “unprepared” for the drill to physically happen, but mentally of course we were as it was unannouced. We’ve had plenty of code red drills in the past. The text and the 911 outage that happened during just freaked everyone out like normal. And like he said, the only thing some students heard was “code red” during lunch so of course the natural reaction is to run and hide. The news station helicopter was also circling our school when everyone was running which didn’t help. And people calling us “snowflakes” or “wimps”, try being in a classroom with 22 of your friends thinking you’re in a life or death situation. With all that is happening around the world at schools, malls, and airports, of course we’re going to be scared or think the worst is to come. Instead of being insensitive, think for a second, what if it was your child in that situation....
I'm so sorry that this happened to you. The school didn't handle this very well, in my opinion, and ya'll never should have been put in this position. Scaring ya'll into thinking you might be taking your last breath isn't going to help prepare you guys, it's just going to traumatize you, and they really need to get it together and make sure this never happens again.
I don't think you or your peers are wimps or snowflakes, I think you are under prepared for real world scenarios. You could do a million drills, it won't prepare you for the mental aspect of emotions and adrenaline.
I'm sorry if this upsets you, but the kids running out of the building, screaming, would have been exactly what a shooter would've wanted. They could pick you guys off like swatting flies. It bothers me that your peers did that without thinking, and it shows that they should have been mentally prepared instead of just learning to line up quietly and going to a safe spot. If my daughter was in this scenario, I would've wanted her to be safe, not trampled. This video is proof that drills aren't enough, kids need to learn how to think in an emergency.
I hope in the future, you can learn to keep yourself safe in every way possible. Those who can think and react in these situations are the ones that will not only be still alive in the end, but could possibly prevent the deaths of so many others.
Have you had drills like this in the past?
Edit: Where they say "this is not a drill"? The sheriff made it sound like this is the law.
I'm so sorry that you went through this garbage, all because your school's administration failed to make sure that you were informed and safe. This isn't how our children deserve to be treated. You are an intelligent generation, and to be put not only at risk for physical harm, but to be then humiliated and blamed for the failure of your faculty....You all deserve better. I'm glad no one was killed, but none of this should have happened at all. My entire generation owes yours an apology for our failures to build a better environment for you to grow.
Trevor Colby I don’t believe we’ve had an unannounced one before this had happened. We have had normal drills where they tell us “this is a code red drill”. Apparently it is now required by the sheriffs department to do the unannounced drills
That is the biggest joke of "de-escalation" that I have ever heard.
If it is illegal to yell bomb in a crowded theater because it causes mass panic then it should be illegal to say this is not a drill before having a drill for the same reason.
Idk it is really iffy decision to do it. But then again not a single fire, school intruder or tornado drill in my entire school life was ever taken seriously by the kids and they were probably all utterly useless.
No idea what the right approach really is here as there isn't really a midway for this...
This! 🙌 💯 👌🏻
You make perfect sense Ben. Yelling this is not a drill during a drill however makes none.
I can’t say for sure but I believe it’s illegal to do this in the EU. I hope this gets sorted out for you. Otherwise the harm of school shooters will reach many many more.
This comment needs to be pinned! This speech isn't protected speech!
Working for a school we always announce that it is a active shooter drill before it starts, we let teachers know in advance, the only thing we do not say is a drill is the fire alarm, which we do every month.
"This is not a drill, there is an active shooter in the building!"
*People Panic*
"Why are you guys scared? It was obviously just a prank, bro!"
Domar7431 Your right, it's best that no one prepares for a crisis situation. This "real" drill just showed how underprepared people are mentally for a crisis. Screaming, trampling, and scrambling will just get you killed. Not everyone's fight or flight response is the same, but it is possible to train your panic response. Proof that a "real" drill assesses better than the drills that are just blown off by 90% of the students.
HenryTheGod Yeahhh, he was making a joke, not a statement, buddy
@@henrythegod6756 What were the students in the cafeteria supose to do? The only thing they could do is run. Hiding wasnt an option for them.
I think one of the teachers had to go to the hospital for an anxiety attack. it was so bad we were stuck in rooms terrified for like 30 minutes
@@henrythegod6756
So, you're saying that the injuries and resulting PTSD from unannounced drills are perfectly fine. What an idiot. You don't do unannounced drills until you've properly instructed them first.
Similarly, you don't hand someone a gun, and expect them to know all gun safety rules by telepathy, do you? No. You instruct them first.
cops relatively new to the job? is their common sense and humanity relatively new to their souls? I smell BS.
This is the best comment I've read in ages 😂 👏👏
James Davis ya that’s just as bad as ripping a child violently from their distressed mother... I bet you voted trump you pos
OddRob whoa trump has no bearing on the situation. Also never ever try to fight the cops,both are in the wrong here
Shes a bad mom, cops did nothing wrong.
I smell b.s. from that lady. Can almost guarantee that she was the one that was escalating shit with security and then she turns around and plays victim.
I think to be a cop, there should be a national mandate for a degree in psychology/counseling/conflict resolution. WAYYY too many cops that don't know how to de-escalate and calm people down, and way too many that *think* they're de-escalating when they're just inciting more panic and distress.
Police should not be a "shoot first" kind of entity and should only resort to an aggressive response after exhausting other options. The problem is that they don't know what the other options are available because they're not trained to know how people work (psychologically) and consequently, don't know how to calm people down without drawing weapons or "MMA takedowns" of a mother holding her infant child. Obviously, not all situations can be handled without force/violence, but without more comprehensive training, can they really say they're capable of making that distinction?
This, honestly, makes so much sense.
The cops here are so understaffed this would kill the police force.
Dev Oh given that all charges were dropped and that she will probably win a civil suit, if she files one, your description of events is not accurate
This would be great. But it's not realistic. It's way too much of a barrier of entry to be practical. There's no easy solution to the problem of abusive police
@@ashleyjanit5052 I never said they were bad, i said they could be better. And i recognize that optics are always an issue, that is why they need more training before becoming officers. She had a warrant and had to be arrested anyways, but there was a way to do it without resorting to tackling her to the ground and aggressively tearing a small child away from her (who should be examined by a doctor for internal injuries from shock/jostling judging by the video).
Her offenses seemed relatively nonviolent, and she had a small child in tow... realistically speaking it was unlikely that she was an immediate threat to herself, the child, or others around her. There was absolutely no reason it should have escalated to what you saw, other than a lack of training, the police even confirmed that some of the responding officers were new to the force. "Sorry we have a tough job and sone of these guys are new" will never be an acceptable excuse for anyone who who wields the power to kill as a part of their job description. This would never fly in the military, and it shouldn't fly for the police, especially considering that the police don't face foreign governments and military powers on the job, they mostly face their neighbors and community members.
And for the record, citizen have rights and are not always obligated to cooperate (ie: unlawful arressts/detentions, protections against discrimination/profiling). Sure it goes more smoothly if they do, but just because someone doesn't cooperate doesn't make them a criminal, and doesn't warrant escalating the situation by force. Force should be used only after careful consideration and/or with a more comprehensive understanding of the situation. An understanding that will be easier to come by with more training before they enter service.
Regarding the school shooting false alarm, it seems like someone took inspiration from The Office with the fire drill episode. lol
They say women and children go first, but we're all children by law and men and women are also equal by law
“Today smoking is going to save lives”
Lol, that is exactly what happened
“Have you ever seen a burn victim!?”
Best scene. Watched in film class.
Who's in charge of coordinating these Florida school drills? Dwight Schrute?
melanie anne basically yeah our entire school is a mess
Hannah Howells dr Daniels needs to retire already idk how the hell were supposed to trust her
I am so tired of the "they have difficult jobs" excuse for police. Why are police officers the only difficult job that allows it's employees to commit assault and murder and get away with it because "their job is hard". Wait staff have pretty hard jobs, but I've never heard of a waiter or waitress attacking their customers. Retail work is hella hard, but I've never heard of a target employee assaulting a difficult customer. Postal work is WHERE we get the term "going postal", but that's never excused an act of violence purpertrated by their employees. Nurses see the worst in humanity every day, but we don't excuse poor work on their behalf. I think we should start holding people in positions of authority and power to a higher standard. Your job is hard? Can't handle it anymore? Quit. See if working retail in the holiday season is more your taste. If a job is too difficult for a person to do responsibly, maybe they need a different line of work.
Sure, if you want to completely ignore the fact that if you as a waiter/retail worker have someone who refuses to leave your store for whatever reason it's not your job to put your hands on them and force them to leave.
This is an easy exercise if you have friends or brothers/sisters. Pretend you are a cop, and you get called in to remove someone from the area because the owner of the place of business has asked them to leave and they haven't. No have your whoever refuse to leave, they don't even have to be violent about it, just refuse to cooperate. See how calm and cool and collected you seem with someone video taping you during the process. Swap roles with your partner and have them do it. It'll give you a small taste of what they are dealing with.
@@milkcowx I didn't choose to go into a profession I KNOW regularly has to deal with that sort of problem either. We don't allow soldiers to shoot civilians just because they were being "difficult", we should hold our police force to a higher standard than "oh well, this job they chose was harder than they thought it would be and they lost their cool." As a retail worker who has been sexually assaulted, by customers, while at work, I can tell you I didn't have to resort to physical violence.
@@MrScott-nu2mh No, but being verbally and some times sexually abused is. And Nurses do have a pretty high risk of being physically threatened by their patients, you wouldn't accept this sort of behavior from a nurse. Why accept it from a police officer?
While i agree with some things you say, and the video appears to be a clear mishandling of what should have been a non-situation, and one that should have big consequences for those involved, comparing the difficulties of a police job to that of a waiter or retail worker is probably the most ridiculous thing ive heard in awhile.
It is the polices JOB to deal with all of the crazy and difficult people that can't be dealt with by all of those retail workers and waiters. All of those difficult customers, those causing scenes, the assaulters, the unstable people, the murderers, its their fucking job to deal with those people, not just some rude guy at the counter who doesn't say thank you when you hand him his bag. Their job routinely puts them in unpredictable situations that are dangerous and even life or death. I mean fuck, who are the people that are called when a waiter or retail worker cant handle a customer. First it is likely the manager, and if even they cant handle the person, THEN it goes to the cops, not your fucking friend over in winter clothes section. So no, they are IN NO WAY comparable...
That’s not what they mean when they say their job is hard. They don’t mean, their job is so hard that they get angry and beat people, that’s NEVER ok.
In this example their job is to remove the woman from the building, she doesn’t comply with the officers commands which is illegal. So now it’s their job to arrest her, but she refuses to comply so they have to arrest her by force, but she is holding a baby which she refuses to let go of.
How would you solve the situation? I can’t think of any way of doing it without it going badly. If I was in her situation I would have just listened to the security guard and moved out of the way - no drama.
I don’t understand why they didn’t just let the lady hold her child and ask her to stand up and get her to hand over her child to an officer or just arrest her and take her and her child to the police station. I am not a peace officer but I feel like there are better ways than forcing a child away from a mother like they are prisoners of war or murderers ....
i believe the cops arrived when there was tension between her and the human resource worker. so they probably just side with the worker and started the procedure (arrest her first, question later)
Why did she need to be arrested though? They didn't know about her warrants until after she was detained. I don't understand what she was doing wrong. Sitting on a floor in an hours long line because they failed to have enough seating. Imagine if airports started saying you can't sit down on the floor. Were there posted signs that stated no sitting on the floor? If not why was this all of a sudden a new rule for her?
thanh nguyen arrest first , yes I can agree but surely prying a mother from a baby does not seem like the right thing in terms of being a peace officer
Terry Shaw basically they said her “stand up holding your baby or leave” assuming there was still no more seats. It’s ridiculous that no one in that entire place said “here mam take my seat I’ll stand”
@@SmallEngineVelocity I swear I was raised to ask if a lady would like to sit as soon as she enters the room. No way that room was full of only sitting women and handicap people that needed the seating, absolutely no way! Let's say all the men in the room didn't notice her, at that point someone should make an announcement, the men in my fam would be like boy get your ass up and let that lady sit down.
There’s a reason you specify whether it’s a drill or not lol, especially when you’re an American and you’re told your school is being shot up.
*proceeds to blame the students for believing you when you tell them it’s not a drill-not even implying they did poorly, instead straight up saying it’s the students’ fault* ThIs iS nOt A dRilL
No the reason you don’t announce that it is a drill is becuase it needs to be treated as if it’s real and it’s on the students to do better than spreading it on social media.
Tony Flores just don’t specify. With all the school shooting stuff don’t even say active shooter because that will make shit worse
The real problem was posting the teacher's text to social media, where it just escalated the panic.
The real problem is has to worry about school shootings in the first place, no other industrialized country has such problem, only in America.
Tony Flores if they get used to “THIS IS NOT A DRILL” being a drill, then they won’t treat it as being real even if it is lol. The idea that it’s the students’ fault in some way that they told their loved ones and spread the word that there was a school shooting is disgusting-you’re saying that you should lie to the students and tell them they’re in a school shooting, and then also say that the students should take blame for spreading the word.
I've gone through many unannounced drills here in Florida However, every one of my teachers would at least notifiy us if it's a drill. Literally saying "THIS IS A CODE RED, THIS IS NOT A DRILL" is asking for a massive panic.
Mr Muffin For sure. I live in Florida too, and ever since Parkland there has been a general hysteria toward active shooters. The school might as well have hired a guy to run around the school with a gun to add ‘realism’ to the drill
@@jacobmtcastle5741
*School district:* It's just a prank bro
My high school always warned us when we had drills, they'd let us know earlier in the day or earlier in the week what type of drill and that we were having one. I never goofed off, personally, and my school generally took it pretty seriously. But we had tons of diplomat kids since it was a private school, so most of them were pretty security-conscious.
Then what's the point of the drill? They said they had these drills for 3 years and what happens when they think it's real this time? They don't follow what they were suppose to be learning in their previous drills and all hell breaks loose.
Goes to show, no matter how many fake drills you have, if the sheep think it's a real wolf they all scatter, leaving the slowers for slaughter.
It served its purpose though right? There are some major flaws in the schools communication, safety and general directions on what TF to do. People trampling and running around like crazy isn't going to save them from an active shooter. Are there not steps like barricade all doors, get away from windows etc? If so, do these kids know what the directions are? Step 1 is locate the shooter I'd say, otherwise you might run straight towards bullets in mass hysteria.
Does no one ever pay attention to stories like "the boy who cried wolf" anymore? It's still relevant. What do you think's going to happen when a real shooter shows up at a school and no one thinks it's real because it's never been real before?
I respect most police, but I feel some of them forget their job is deescalation just as much as anything else. The badge and gun doesn't make you all powerful, we are all just humans at the end of the day.
And being black doesn't give you a pass to disregard rules that applies evenly to everyone. The mother made a a series of defiant and shitty choices that escalated the situation to what you see in the clip.
Her defiance escalated the situation. Period.
@@loltom3703 there's no excuse to disregard rules regardless of race or status or anything else.
@@RideWithDanger exactly, and if the mother subscribed to that seemingly basic logic, this whole mess wouldn't have even happened.
Well, unless the rule is that she can't sit on the floor. Because that's just a moronic rule. Arrest her for the fraud, but not for sitting.
@@NEatopMtHyjal except for it's not a retarded rule. Its fire code. The purpose of that rule is so that in the case of an emergency: A] she won't be in people ways while they try to evacuate, and B] so that she and her child wont be trampled in the case of said evacuation.
This is the exact same reasons venues have capacities.
These codes exist for good reason although they may seem silly without giving them any thought.
But if you look into the situation beyond the clip, witnesses say that she was causing a scene and telling profanities at the social workers and refusing to comply with requests to get off the floor.
I was student teaching at a smaller high school in Ohio. It was in a not so great part of town and there had been a shooting two streets over a few weeks prior when the principal decided to have an unannounced drill. Kids were panicking and hiding behind me, screaming, trying to get out the windows it was terrible. My cooperating teacher stayed fairly calm but they hadn’t notified any of the teachers that it was a drill, and when the principal was making the announcement he even yelled “Get down!” before turning off the intercom. After the drill I asked the teacher how she stayed so calm and she just showed me that her hands were shaking violently. After school another teacher came into our room crying, she had a child going to that high school at the time. I might be kind of new to this but in my opinion unannounced drills are incredibly irresponsible, and there needs to be something done about them it’s just dangerous and sad...
Principal bursts into the class, starts shooting a pistol into the air while yelling "Judgement day bitches!" has a drill
Rachel P it is extremely difficult to stay calm in those situations but with practice you’ll learn to control your emotions. It’s not that you don’t feel them, you just don’t show them to the kids. I’ve had bad situations in my classroom and after it was finished, I asked another teacher to watch my class so I could let it all out. The kids never knew I had an emotional breakdown and the day continued because they needed it to.
Free advice: get out of teaching as soon as you can. Good luck.
I think that in some situations, an unannounced fire drill would be alright. Under no circumstances should a child truly believe that they may be murdered today then expect them to go back to algebra. It’s a horribly manipulative move and I applaud you for trying to help the kids at your school. Teachers get nothing but shit from the world and you deserve so much more respect from your administration. I hope when you find a full time position, it’s with a school that values its students and teachers’ wellbeing
@Ellisar Atranimus That gun is more likely to get you and others shot due to escalating the situation than to turn you into the action hero that saves all the kids.
I agree, in the uk we obviously don't do shooting drills but even for fire drills we are all told before hand so we don't panic. You're supposed to practice in the calm so you know what to do when its time to panic.
Unannounced Drills are the absolute worst.
We had them as fire drills and first you'd take it seriously, but every time after people would just pick up their stuff, slack around or even stay inside.
When we once had a person accidentally hit an alarm (which wasn't a drill), it took ages for people to get out as they assumed it was "just a drill"
Just notify your people when you are and when you aren't doing a drill, or they won't believe you when it's the real deal
I completely agree.
We actually had a system I really liked at my old middle school.
One morning we showed up, and were told that today there would be a drill, we were instructed what to do, and did it.
Afterwards we were told that at some point during the following month one more drill would be happening, so we would get to practice.
That's it. Repeat every three years.
I once worked in the basement of a building that did monthly drills. After 5 years of working there 2 floors above us caught on fire. When the alarm went off most of us started getting to a saving point or started grabbing stuff.
The fire suppression system failed because of poor maintenance and several people suffered serious injuries because we we're so complacent from incessant drills. I made it out of a window that was too small to fit the majority of my coworkers even though its only purpose was to be an emergency fire exit so if you are over weight or just a large man and the stairs to a basement office start to burn you're screwed.
You need TWO scheduled drills a year, thats it. You can't constantly fake people out then expect anyone to take it seriously.
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I think its a question of sincerity on everyone's part. I was in the Netherlands once on a work call, and the office building where I was at had a fire drill. Everyone in the building knew it was a drill, not real, and yet they promptly saved their work (software company) and exited the office space - and made sure I did it too. We went all the way to the nearest fire exit and waited there until the alarm stopped and then returned. I have noticed that Americans usually lack this kind of sincerity a la 3rd world countries, and hence replies and comments like in this thread.
Michel Postma announced drills are useless
If the code red drill had a gun this wouldn't have happened.
#Nomoredrillguns
"this is not a drill"
proceeds to be confused when people think it wasnt a drill
This is so stupid. Why am I laughing so hard at this? 😂
I'm really loving the bits where you share clips from experts you've talked to! It's very cool to see and interesting to hear other perspectives firsthand.
That Florida high school drill reminds me of the Fire Drill episode from the Office.
That was a horrible thing to do imo.
The emotional trauma from the kids/parents plus someone could have been seriously injured from trampling... C'mon florida!
James Burgess, Yesss
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Terri Ballard You too heavy
"The fire is shooting at us!"
Good lord, that cop was yanking that baby like it was the last Hatchimal on Black Friday.
I shouldnt have laughed but that got a good laugh out of me
I feel bad for laughing
i dont, that was funny!
All I kept thinking was Shaken Baby Syndrome
I watched Jason Rouse live today, so I'm all kinds of warmed up for that kind of comment.. it was horrible, yet funny
Waving a weapon in people's faces and threatening to harm them is how you start a riot. The officers are so lucky that the situation did not get out of hand, cause that single stun gun isn't going to protect you against 20 angry people surrounding you.
They where getting to close and that is why he pulled the tazer. Is it so hard to understand?
DreamerXGX No if he hadn’t of done that people may of gotten to cocky and tried to fight the police. Leading to more harm for the mother and child and the people literally crowding around the officers.
Besides what do you expect them to do over all of that shouting?? Shout back? Cause more tension in the crowd having them possibly attack you? No it’s better to show these lunatics that you have a weapon and if they try anything they will get shocked.Honestly people have no sympathy for the shit these officers have to put up with.
Had the mother just complied with the officers and handed them the baby or left the building in the first place and returned the next day not making this huge scene this wouldn’t have never happened...
@@Bungeenator is it so hard to reply to someone's comment without being condescending?
What that officer did in this situation was extremely stupid. The best example I can think of is a drowning person. Their best option would be to remain calm and think of a way to get themselves out of a bad situation. Instead, they scream, panic and thrash around, making their situation far worse than if they had stayed calm.
Oh they were getting close, but u think the people behind them were concerned over the stun gun? No, all the officer did in this situation was agitate the crowd even further. All it takes is one person to start something for this to become a riot. And that stun gun isn't going to save you from 20 angry people.
The entire way they handled this situation was fucking insane. What did the mom do? She fucking sat on the floor while waiting for government assistance? Big fucking deal. The appropriate response would have been a verbal warning, or at maximum a ticket. But no, you have all these police officers dragging and pulling the mother and her child over fucking loitering. Then they escalate the situation further by pulling out a weapon and starting waving it around in people's faces.
Smh, did they officers not think about this child when they were trying to drag and pull them apart?
What the police need more than their armored personnel carrier is training in how to deal with difficult situations and de-escalation.
@@martinaalwyn1277 Wow, there are so many things wrong with what you are saying here. All that shouting started BECAUSE of what the officer's actions. Blatant disregard for the health and safety of the child, and excessive use of force. The whole situation did not have to get this way from the start. Yes, she was sitting on the floor because she wasn't suppose to, yes, she didn't get up when they asked her to, but your response is to violently drag and pull on her and her baby to comply????
Where is your sympathy for the person who suffered the most in this situation?
Should the mom have just gotten up and not escalate the situation? Yes. But the reaction should fit the action. If I stole a candy cane and you pull out a gun and shot me sixteen times, I think any reasonable person would say that is an excessive use of force and you are in the wrong.
DreamerXGX Okay So first off the crowd was what was agitated this by shouting and screaming at these newly trained officers, don’t pretend to act like the bigger person here because under the stress they were in they were doing their best to protect themselves and it worked didn’t it?
After they showed the gun the crowd knew not to be stupid enough to challenge people with weapons. People who are already agitated won’t stop unless they are taken out of the environment or they are put in their place. The 20 people didn’t attack because the officers stood up to them, had they of shown weakness the crowd would of taken that and attacked them.
This was handled I insanely. But the mother was the one who escalated this situation by refusing to leave and then REFUSING to hand the child over while she was getting arrested instead she but her child at RISK by rolling around on the floor like a madwoman instead of handing the child over to the officers and not risking the child being injured, at this point the officers probably thought that this woman was a risk to the child’s safety and that’s why they tried to take away the child. It’s not their fault the mother aggressively held back the child.
Tell me this, if someone illegally enters your property doesn’t do anything besides sitting on the floor for seven hours holding something wrapped in blankets you seriously wouldn’t think to call the cops?
Also you’re forgetting the child had been there for SEVEN hours! Who brings a baby to that kind of place. Where there’s an unsafe, unclean, busy and crowded environment. Oh right her.
It’s not the polices fault that SHE escalated the situation by refusing to co operate with the literal police! If they tell you to do something as simple as stand up and hand the baby over. Or leave the premises. Then do it!
These were fresh trainee officers and yes they could of handled it better. But a mother of a child in a busy place could of also acted more maturely.
You know what the police really need? Respect. For putting up with situations like this, for saving lives on the daily and for keeping the streets safe because in a world where we don’t listen to the authority protecting us is a world where no listens to each other and it’s just an endless scene of people screaming at each other and defending stupid actions and stupid people breaking laws.
Wish we could see what led up to the chaos and how the escalation started. I have represented criminal clients and have had access to lots of footage mapping the start and end of interactions with the police. I have seen and explained to clients how refusing police orders and being difficult can quickly spiral out of control. The unfortunate truth is that if you do not obey police orders you will likely face a scenario like the one in the video, and even if you are in the right you will not be able to take back the traumatic experience. Without knowing whether she was refusing police orders, and if so in what manner, it is hard to make a judgement. If she was given lawful orders to leave the premise by the police and refused then I will say that she was being a bad parent and exposing her young child to this event that could have been avoided. The better course would be to obey the police take it outside and try and discuss with them what was happening and resolve whether she should be allowed inside later.
My advice in interacting with the police:
1. ) Be polite even if they are rude
2.) Do not argue against a police order
3.) Try your best to remain calm and speak calmly
4.) Remember that refusing to answer a question doesn't mean you are disobeying (though failing to identify yourself will cause you to have an issue and likely lead to escalation)
5.) Remember just because you are right doesn't mean they cannot justify the use of force, do not give them any ammo with which they can argue they needed to use force.
There is no reason NOT to announce any drill as a drill. The military does it with EVERY drill. A sample announcement would be: "This is a drill, this is a drill. Cod Red, Code Red, all students and staff move to the nearest secure location. THIS IS ONLY A DRILL."
The purpose of a drill is to get people to learn the proper response in a safe and orderly manner, so that if an actual event occurs, everyone in able to act properly even under the stress of the situation. While I agree with making drills unscheduled, it is COMPLETELY unnecessary to frighten people for a drill. No, the kids and staff won't be moving "with purpose" during a drill, but the military truism of "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast" applies here. The idea is took take your time to do it right, because when you're rushing, you are more likely to fumble and make mistakes. This is why we do drills calmly, with a minimum of haste. It builds muscle memory so that we don't have to think during a stressful situation, we just do.
I also disagree with NOT conducting drills during lunch, as that is when the students are most vulnerable. They need to be able to respond effectively even then. The panic after the second announcement is evidence of why this is necessary. Imagine if you added an actual shooter during that chaos...
I agree! Communication is key to everything working as it's supposed to.
You need to stay calm. If its announced as a drill, teens arent going to take it serious. Teens arent military. Military is taught to take things serious, teens dont take anythig serious. Honestly, in hs if i was told it was a drill and if i was in the hall, i would have fucked around with my friends running up and down the hallway. And i was a well behaved kid in school, you could only imagine how unbehaved teens would have acted
Really well said. The point is to learn which is unlikely when you think you’re about to die.
THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT. they DO/DID have drills before, multiple times through out every year but nobody takes them seriously, so when the time came when they thought it was real this is the kinda shit that happens.
perhaps they shouldn't call it a drill, but rather a test
I wholeheartedly agree. Why didn't the students act how they're supposed to? I understand that they were terrified but they let their emotions judge whether they were going to live rather how they were going to live.
Speaking on the code red drills; when I was in high school we had some builders that kept accidentally setting off our fire alarms. This happens about 30 times over several months and after a while everyone including the teachers became less alarmed and we often just slowly walked out of the building and messed about on the field outside. Later a real drill came after a student didn’t realise you couldn’t pour chemicals down a sink and a dangerous gas began to spread around the school because we all figured the alarm was another accidental alarm we didn’t take it seriously. Luckily no one was harmed but this shows the importance of not over doing drills as this real drill could have had a much sadder outcome.
Something like that happened to my school last year on the day AFTER THE PARKLAND SHOOTING! Most of us were ready to just bolt.
Hey Phil! I’d love it in ‘Today In Awesome’ you showed up what movies were in theatres currently
Thank you so much phil for the notice. Really appreciate it man
You run drills so students know what to do in a drill, not to scare them into always being paranoid if something happens.
This showed that the students *clearly* take threats seriously, but panicked and showed no composure in how to properly react in the event of one. The school and the district have completely failed those students and pretending that it was a success, is really pathetic.
i was gonna say, they clearly do react to genuine threats, but i'm pretty sure they need to do more drills with how everyone reacted.
No, I think it was a success. It shows how incompetent the school is. It shows how useless the kids are in paying attention and following the rules. Especially being "scared for life" ... hahahaha
It was a huge success in showing how the whole thing is a shit show.
James Burgess obviously the students couldn’t handle it
@@TangSuijin that's one way of looking at it
Seriously, where I'm from, we have professionals teach us procedures, and then we'd test drills for 2-3 days. None of use would be as panicked as those kids, we were at least trained. lmao.
But then again, this is america, where people actually fear getting shot at by randos. I think that's far far more than the school's fault.
I like how Netflix has an Amy Schumer special with stolen jokes and unoriginal humor, But David can't make a show?
Netflix you trippin.
What you don't want to see a special that consists of nothing but "Muh Vagina" jokes and stolen jokes?
I'd rather not see either one of them on Netflix.
Tbh Netflix is trash anyways lol, he deserves better
They probably don't want Miranda Sings 2
TheRedAceOfSpades not defending the unfunny Amy Schumer but David is also very unfunny. It’s the same unfunny, unoriginal, rehashed “comedy” him and the other vine people try to pass as something funny.
It’s juvenile comedy that rates slightly above a fart joke.
Thank you so much for the warning much appreciated 💛
Super happy that your giving warnings for disturbing stories now. I've avoided watching your show for years and only watched if I can see your covering something I know I want to hear about. I have mental health issues and I'm a very empathetic person so I have to be very careful with what I let my self be around or watch. One bad news story could mess me up for weeks. some of the stories you covered even as far back as 2014 still come in to my head once in a while and ruin me for a few hours. I appreciate this change. I'll now be able to watch your show more regularly. Thank you
On the story of the fake code red. I think the school administration needs to have serious consequences for causing fear and mental injury to all those who involved. If someone can go to jail for yelling fire in a theater, how can the people who caused this panic go free?
Stfu people are stronger than ypu think, near death experiences are one of the best experience for people bexuase it shows them how short their life is.
Nathan Long You’re supposed to turn off all the lights in the classroom, lock the doors, cover the windows and then hide until a police officer unlocks the door and clears the class. If you’re unfortunately in the hallway then you go to the nearest open classroom or bathroom if you weren’t fast enough.
You are telling people to run out of the building like customers on Black Friday. This will undoubtedly turn students into targets. Drills help prepare students and faculty for when an actual threat emerges so they know what they must do.
Don't forget the physical injury. That girl broke her arm because she got trampled. How many others were injured in this?
That kid with the broken arm can and should sue.
@@thefirsttime7759 Thank you for completing missing the point entirely.
My one thought is how the hell did the officer YANKING ON THE BABY not get acknowledged for unnecessarily aggressive conduct TOWARD A BABY.
Spoopy Ougi I might be wrong but the way they were shaking it could’ve ended up with shaken baby syndrome. It’s terrible that this happened.
The thing that pissed me off most about that is how the MOTHER got charged for that as though it was her fault that the cop did that.
@@geekedupgirl7551 depends on the baby's age, but possibly. I doubt it would've gone that bad, but it definitely could've hurt them with bruises.
@@yourblackhalf yeaaaah... The things that make me glad west coast isn't completely bonkers. We have some bad shit, but we are not completely bonkers.
How the hell did the mom not get reprimanded for not going quietly and hanging onto her kid for dear life hoping they'd go away? Seriously? She put her own kid in jeopardy thinking the police would just let her walk away because she had a child in her arms. There's a good way to avoid arrest, sure! PS, what you see on video and what actually happened are usually two different things. We see what we can from the backside. Then others come along to fill in the blanks, because there is an agenda to discredit all law enforcement to the point where we are entering complete anarchy and chaos rules. If that's the kind of world you want, that's what you're gonna get. Armchair police judges. And because there's public outcry, our law enforcement gets their hands tied more and more, because the admins pander to the court of public opinion. If I was a cop, I'd quit and let people fend for themselves.
Gotta say, fkn love this channel, this is real news coverage, main stream media does not cover news nearly as well as this, thank you Philip!
Thank you for the warning!
Doing a Code Red drill while explicitly identifying it as "not a drill" is about 10,000 times more dangerous and harmful than just not doing drills at all and being unprepared in the extremely unlikely event there's actually a school shooting. Hysteria meets incompetence.
Accurate. I was a substitute teacher once. They did a "code red" drill that was widely reported (like letters home reported) the kids were laughing, being loud. It was absolutely fubar...
Thats wierd because they do surprise fake shooter drills in my HS and all the ones around like twice a year and we did it.
This kids would have been picked off if this was real.
@@kevinsolo3591 we were "hiding" in the library and they would not shut up. I was like "if this was real and I got killed because of you... I'm haunting your family from now til eternity..."
Yeah hysteria, I hope you find out what it feels like to be on the wrong end of a barrel one day, I just wanna see how hysterical you get
Dino Spumoni I’m gonna assume you haven’t been in a high school recently. These threats are very real and of constant thought to a ton of people. I’m not in a “ghetto” school or anything like that and in my three years we have had three threats and one gun brought to school. Each one was handled swiftly and responsibly by the school that did not cause chaos. Yeah it helps to be prepared but the staff needs to first and foremost control the situation. The school here did not. They could have handled that code red much better and that’s why the blame falls on them. They can not blame these kids and don’t forget these are kids for acting hysteric in a situation that they are fearing for their life.
At every school I have ever gone to every "Code Red" drill was unannounced. Everyone takes it seriously. There has never been a reaction like this though. One big distinction is that I am from Canada. We have more lockdowns because of bears on campus than anything else. I think that the drill that happened in Florida was extremely tone deaf and poorly timed. Doing unannounced fake active shooter drills (especially in Florida) is extremely disturbing. Then the administration made it worse by making the announcement AT LUNCH. LUNCH?? No one can hear announcements in a classroom when a few people are talking, let alone a cafeteria. It is also extremely difficult to know 100% where any student is during lunch. in the Caf? chilling in the halls? Library? Did they go out? who knows. Then the faculty blame the students. Wow, just wow.
it was their fault for announcing it at lunch but students also sent around something about a code red and shooter so there might be alot of tension and its everyones fault really they just need to do better ( im also from canada )
big factor is that during lunch there are no authority figures to organize crowds.
the more i think about it the more i think canada might have 'vague' drills, but i don't remember them ever saying 'this is not a drill'. they left it open ended. so you looked to someone on the inside who knew, who was usually a teacher and they were usually calm if it was a drill. so you knew it was a drill even if you didn't know there was a drill that day.
anyway, i'm pretty meh about this entire situation now.
it seems like there are a lot of ways to handle such drills. a red alert drill of this variety though should have been handled more carefully cause unlike a fire drill they are far more liable to cause a panic. plus it's even debatable if it shouldn't be announced beforehand. cause these kids may need some practice before you throw them into the deep end.
Never had a Code Red drill be announced as a DRILL. That school literally said it wasn't a drill. How do you expect kids to react when the Code Red isn't announced as a drill?
Well the fact they made the code red a worse case scenario with multiple buildings with multiple shooters without an authority figure. Yeah, kids would panic and it's not their fault... oh so they posted they were going to die online and the panic started again? Well no duh I would want to try to get help anywhere I could. I mean where would you go if you have no where to go; if you feel like a psycho is around every corner
Hannah Anderson When I was in school there was a serious lockdown incident on campus. The only reason my class took it seriously was I got a panicked text just moments before the lockdown announcement was made, and I was able to tell our class president. Had I not been informed of what was happening by another student, and seeing as it was the end of the school year (during a day we had a sub), it was unlikely that anyone would have realized the lockdown was real. Seeing this happen in Florida gives me chills; no one deserves to panic like that when it’s not an emergency.
So why is her criminal record that includes credit card fraud being expunged?
deep blue Good question.
Does that justify having a police officer tackle her to the ground and forcibly take her baby away?
The two are completely unrelated to each other. The fact that she made damn sure to keep her baby in between her and the arresting officers was despicable in itself but nobody seems to care about that either.
scitechian Who tackled her first of all? She was already on the ground, remember? And regardless that would be how you arrest someone who is resisting anyway...Second, deep blue is right here. This woman knew she couldn't have her child with her while she was being arrested for several different things she chose to do. She put him in that situation. But because one single officer made an arguably bad decision to yank on the child (the mother being the other half of that btw) the mothers actions are just irrelevant now? We should all be worried about him in her care after this. What happens next time she does something incredibly stupid to get arrested? Now that she sees that using her child as some kind of sick from of protection will work, she'll be even more willing to use him that way. She should have been given the orginal charges, the tresspassing charges, and for endangering her child and I have no idea why she didn't.
deep blue well did you want her to roll over and squish the baby?
Thanks for giving the warning. I was in a rough place last week so I skipped the segment, but came back to watch it today. Really appreciate it Phil.
I blame David’s rejection directly on everyone who advocated for Friends to stay on Netflix. $100m for a show everyone on the planet has seen twice already 🤦🏻♂️
Never watched it!
If that is the police chiefs idea of the cops handling it well... What is his idea of a poorly handled situation?
crewc02 I wouldn't put it past them if they justified it with " at least no one was killed."
At least they didnt shoot her.
How does he defend their reaction while in the same statement calling the situation disturbing? Is his idea of handling something well supposed to be disturbing?
At least she didn't hurt her child while using it as a human shield
I honestly think the cops did do a good job. Were they to aggressive with the kid? Yeah, but the mother was fighting back real hard. The cops have a job, they got called with trespassing, the cops had to remove the trespasser. If you look they weren't even being hard on her at first but got aggressive later on. Obviously they were pulling to hard on the child I think. But they didnt even take out a gun the dood waved a small ass stun gun around just to make people back off without having to touch them. When they removed the kid they got her back up, seeming without that much force and arrested her. No pain on the mother as we can see. I think if this was a situation where they were removing a normal trespasser no one would be this mad at the cops lol. Like the HRA, pieces of shit. But I think the cops are victim of circumstance here. Still fucking hate cops though.
His Netflix commentary 😂😂
Really really good episode
The problem with the drill isn't really that it was unannounced and parents/staff weren't notified beforehand. It's that they specifically said "this is not a drill" when it happened. They shouldn't have done that. And, yeah, I won't be surprised if there really is a real code red and nobody takes it seriously. This was irresponsible, counterproductive, devoid of any common sense whatsoever and ended up causing mental and physical injuries. Somebody needs to be fired.
This showed exactly how unprepared those kids were for a real drill.
If it was a real drill, they all ran out and made themselves bigger targets. The casualty rates would've been insane. These kids panicked and that's the last thing you need in a code Red. I'd rather they think the next one IS a drill and actually get into the classrooms and hide.
I hate that america has to worry about active shooters but we learn this in Canada too. We're shown films about school shootings and how your behaviour matters during it.
We had fire drills. Then when there was a real fire, and when there was a bomb threat, you know what we did? We got out. Orderly. A couple people fell and we lifted them up and got away from the school, confirmed with our teachers where we were.
All this to say I'm not saying this to be a dick, or call these kids dumb or anything. It's just that in a crisis situation, having a plan that accounts for SOME stuff is better than panic that accounts for NO stuff. And tramples people without even a real threat.
Juniper This "real" drill just showed how underprepared people are mentally for a crisis. Screaming, trampling, and scrambling will just get you killed. Not everyone's fight or flight response is the same, but it is possible to train your panic response.
PejmanMan no they did the drill fine it was after the drill kids still thought the shooter was on campus
Luis Roman There’s also not even drill procedure for during lunch. At least, not at any of the schools I went to had procedures for lunchtime
11:11 as a high school student I can say this tweet is spot on, because it's the state my school is in with fire drills. Two years ago during the second semester the district was doing on the fire system and accidentally set off the fire alarm. The first day this happened everyone reacted perfectly, we all immediately exited the classroom and headed to our designated areas until we were given the all clear. The next day, people assumed it was another false alarm and most classes stayed inside. The following year we had two false alarms and no one did anything even though it took 5 minutes for someone to get the the speaker, and this year we've had no false alarms but ask anyone at the school and they'd probably say "I'll wait staff to tell us over speaker it's really".
TL;DR
False alarms (and surprise drills because they have the same in the moment effect) don't help. It makes students LESS likely to react. Just do planned drills so we know what to do. The first false alarm at my school is proof that it's enough.
Meanwhile, kids that ignore fire drills/security drills in my country, can go home and not return to school since they are clearly not educated to listen and need to learn manners. Albeit, those exercises are broadcast as drills when they happen.
@@Helveteshit Really? We're usually told to wait and listen for an announcement if the alarm goes off before we do anything. Granted it never took more than a few seconds after it went off but our school was too large for people to take initiative without creating chaos.
You're a fool, Begin prepared is the thing for everyone.
@@joelromero6074 No one is arguing against drills bc they're essential to being prepared, but having false alarms frequently makes you doubt if the next alarm is going to be real or not.
In my dorm in college my freshman year the fire alarm would go off at least twice a week... Mainly cause college freshmen are neanderthals (I have so many stories..). It eventually got to the point where the alarm would go off and nobody would do anything. And then again even after the alarm would go off all the freaking time the university still did bi-weekly tests of the system... Moral of the story. Too many drills/false alarms = People won't take it seriously.
"I'm so-and-so from youtube. I can make a great show, please trust me!". 10/10 works every time
This very similar to what happened at UW-whitewater in May. The threat to life safety alarm went off on accident and it was terrifying for the entire campus
"doing their best job to de-escalate it?" you had a police officer who was LITERALLY waving a stun gun at a crowd of people, while the rest wrestled a mother to the ground to pry her baby from her arms. if that's your definition of 'best' then the NYPD is in a disturbingly sorry state
@A K exactly
@A K You're right she is, but those officers are also fully at fault. Actively threatening the public and prying a baby like that risks death to the baby. That should *never* be acceptable under any circumstance. They should pick her up and take the baby with her.
@A K
I always wonder if opinions like this are real.
Like with flat earthers I'm always in awe thing "they must be trolling...but the world is so crazy...you can not tell"
I'd hate to see what would happen if the cops weren't trying to de-escalate the situation.
That's a stupid way of thinking about this. If the baby was a human shield then they shouldn't have acted as they did. You don't risk harm to innocent people, full stop. When the police arrived they should've been able to ascertain that they were called in error.
You never, NEVER, announce a "drill" as "Not a Drill".
That destroys trust in you.
My semester last spring they had one of these "drills" that did not say it was a drill. It was honestly terrifying and I had no idea that this was a much more common issue.
“I think we should have drills in airports and pretend there is a bomb threat” -florida
Whole room full of people refuse to give up their seat for a woman carrying a baby. Staff call police to beat the woman and take her baby.
#thisisAmerica
This is true though. You'd think when people saw a woman and baby on the floor, SOMEONE would give up their seat. I couldn't imagine seeing that and not doing so as a perfectly able-bodied adult. Even with my foot issues. * _shrug_ *
Those administrators never read the boy that cried wolf?
Phil,
I am a teacher at another high school in Seminole county Florida. We have done unannounced Code red drills but made parents aware before the drill even took place that day. Ultimately this comes down to the resource officers and administration. We were the first school in the county to perform a code red during lunch last year and it was successful, but students knew it would be a drill and they took it very seriously because we had additional sheriffs come to monitor our reaction. Cafeteria full of about 1,000 students cleared to safety in under 2 minutes.
I think this was just a mishandlement by the Brantley staff.
in high school our fire alarms during drills would say this is not a drill. It always rubbed me the wrong way.
So I get that cops have a difficult job, but in what world is that video the solution to a lady with a child not wanting to leave a building?
@A K its not on the lady to descelate the situation...shes doesnt have months of police academy training...the cops do...
If the lady is being unreasonable so what? Ur job as a police officer is to find a descalating solution to get the job done without harming the child...not get frustrated and play tug of war with a child..
Police cant keep using "its a stressful job" to get out of their mistakes..if u cant handle it dont become a police officer. Surgeons dont get a pat on the wrist for botching a stresssful surgery....
@F Not even that. She had a warrant out for her arrest. She should be been arrested whether or not she stood.
@@acadiansm You don't know what your talking about. The police were called for a person refusing to leave who also has a warrant. The police show up and ask the lady to leave in which case she refuses too and continues to sit on the ground. At this part the police have every right to arrest her but they can't do that until they get the baby away from her so they don't hurt the baby. She refuses to give the baby up and instead tries to use it as a human shield. The baby is now in danger so they forcefully take the baby away and arrest her. All this could have been avoided if she just left but she had to be a bitch and put her baby in danger.
mclarenf1lm15 They didn’t know about the warrant at the time. The cops have no excuse.
Well, I would first ask if she (and the facility) would be comfortable if she sat in a chair and ask if anyone else could stand. If that wasn't a viable solution, I'd ask her about why she wanted to stay, which would probably be "if I don't get this done my kid won't have childcare and I won't be able to go to work," or something along those lines. And then I would give her an alternative means of dealing with that I don't know what services are available in the US but Canada has emergency supplements available for while someone is in the process of disputing a claim, we also have advocacy centres, so a police officer might suggest, "How about I take you to 'X' advocate and they can help you through this process so it isn't so stressful" Only after all of this can you try to physically remove her from the building, and even in that, you should be calm and gentle while trying to remove the child, crouching to their level to avoid scaring the child. If it all possible, do not be aggressive in any way before securing the child if conflict with the mother is inevitable and you have more than one officer, delegate one to be a safe and calm place for the child.
Drills are supposed to prepare you to do the proper things to deal with the situation. They are there to imprint on you the necessary course of action so that when shit does go down...hopefully you remember that training and are able to deal with it properly, rather than losing your head. Effectively implementing the dangerous situation without the actual danger so that people get panicked, fear for their lives, and share it with the world...is exactly NOT what you are supposed to do to train people how to survive in such a situation. People aren't going to remember training done in such a manner. All they will remember is the panic and fearing for their lives part...and the anger afterward. Multiple people need to be fired over that bullshit in Florida.
Yeah this is exactly my thought. That's like being a football player and never having a practice, just games. There's value to practicing, even if you're aware it isn't a high-stakes situation. It does benefit you when the time comes, and it helps engrain that behaviour so you default to it when the adrenaline kicks in. The 'surprise' part isn't supposed to be that you don't know it's a drill, the surprise is that you're in a hallway, in the bathroom, outside the school, and you know what to do in those varying situations.
When I was in high school before a lock down drill - the teachers would inform us a minute before the drill starts; then the alarm goes off & doors lock.
School shooters in different countries
America: students starts screaming and pushing people around getting away from the shooter
Russia: students disarm the shooter and shot back.
I just don't understand what officers are learning at police academies if their version of deescalation is playing tug of war with a baby.
She was protecting herself with that baby. Entirely the lady's fault
@@BigYellowJoint1 Let us imagine you are correct (What parent willingly gives up their child to aggressive strangers?), you shouldn't fucking need 'protection' from the police. This idea that violence is an acceptable police reaction to just about anything is absurd.
@@BigYellowJoint1 ok..you are most definitely not a parent I see. Imagine your child is being ripped from your arms by strangers. If you don't get scared at that then you don't understand
@@marsrivers2574 Half those police officers were black, so you don't get to play the race card here... Also, when that woman resisted arrest, she was the one that put her baby in danger, the police don't know anything about this woman, she might be crazy and do something to the baby.
That and then pulling a stun gun on the public
Cops got off with No punishment.
Well imagine my shock
Sia Sleopard As it should be.
Sia Sleopard
I don’t know you. Can’t imagine.
@Sgtnameless How about I have some supposed authority figure repeatedly attempt to forcibly rip your infant from your arms. But it's not illegal, amirite? I mean, who cares about babies?
@Remianen So they should arrest her and the baby together? Do police officers carry baby-sized handcuffs with them nowadays?
@@Remianen her selfish ass using the child a shield to not be arrested. 🤔 So who is the wrong here.
this reminds me of the fire drill episode of the office. classic.
And feel that Casper 50 is just one more reason why the Nation loves you more!!!
This happens at my school every time we do a lockdown drill. They don’t state it is a drill or tell us that it will be happening prior to it. They only tell us which terms during the year we’ll have one. Nobody even cares about it anymore, the teachers are instructed to not tell us it is a drill unless they have a condition, anxiety, special needs, etc. It isn’t scary when they come over the intercom announcing a lockdown. And the fact that lockdown isn’t scary IS VERY VERY SCARY. I trust my school to protect me as much as I trust a piece of paper to stop a bullet.
That's so true for my school too, except we aren't even told which term it will be during. I live in Australia, so that adds to the fact that none of us are really worried when the alarm goes off, because dangerous situations in schools are extremely rare here.
Must be a city school thing. I went to school in a rural area and we were always told an hour before, 5 minutes before and usually during the drill what was going on and for how long.
Liam Fogarty Same the alarm bells just go off at random times. No one gets notified that it’s fake or real and we don’t have any way of knowing it’s real or fake because of this when the bell goes we’re always gonna assume it’s fake. Which probably won’t end well for us when there’s a real shooter. But we’re students so we have no power over stuff like this anyways..
I'm in a city school around dc and I'm always told
Youre actually afraid? I love the drills, less class time
Okay regarding the last story.... holy crap. If the Chief thinks it was handled orrectly please give a breakdown of what officers are trained to do and release the bodycam footage detailing how the officers were doing 'the right thing'. Cause looking at that heartbreaking hot mess it looks like just a hot mess.
I kinda agree with the Chief. How were they supposed to arrest her if she didnt lket go of her child. We can argue all day about weather she should have been arrested but the cops were doing that and she resisted and didnt let go of her child. They arent just gonna not arrest her.
That level of roughness is what is the concern here. That is an infant. That officer could have potentially killed that child for doing that........and that's just fine with you?
why tf didn’t she let go of the damn baby, none of that brutality would have happend if she just let go. she’s under arrest and she uses the baby as a shield. bs.
Threatening a crowd of onlookers with a taxer when they had the gall to try and record the incident and berate the officers for their thuggish treatment of that women and her child.....this ain’t it Chief.
Nope Ninja she didn’t get shot it’s fine. Stop resisting arrest
I love it when my script gets discovered outside Whole Foods, lol!!
At my school it’s so bad with threats, we had 3 this year, 1 went on the local news.
In regards to that map of slain journalists... Russia is looking a bit too clean.......
Agent Ham We give them long vacations
Sir are you a Journalist?
I'd like you to come in my office for a _private "chat"_
*BANG*
That's because these maps are known deaths/murders of journalists, with heavy suspicion of it politically motivated. In Russia, these people often just "disappear," making it hard to prove they were killed. Also the Russian media is very, very government-controlled, so it's hard for these incidents to made known to the public.
Goddamn Bananas also fewer willing to attempt reporting there knowing the level of corruption
You misunderstand. They are just taking little naps.
I can completely agree with these students who were so afraid of this “drill.” From my personal experience, it would take you a few minutes to research “Carmel High School Shooting Scare.” Where, at my high school there was simply a loud noise that initiated hundreds of students to evacuate the lunch room (including me). Kids began screaming “gun! gun!” I was furious when it took so long for an actual announcement to reassure the students, and even more mad when I had to tell my parents what had happened while the school made no such announcement. Many only found out through local news.
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So not having them prepared is even better? Lol my old school drills never said it was just a test relax guys. We got bomb threats and still handled it better than those Florida snow flakes.
What Zit Tooya nah im just saying it is absolutely no surprise this drill went to shit
@@joelromero6074 are you taking into account the emotional trauma of the kids/parents and also the fact someone could have been seriously injured(or worse) from being trampled?
If this was something like a fire drill, it would be okay to not let the students know it’s a drill. This was an active shooter drill. These kids were scared for their lives. All these kids went through the trauma of wondering if maybe they had time to tell their mom “I love you” one last time before being MURDERED. Do you really expect these kids to just brush this off and go back to history class???? God, I’m so lucky to be out of high school
Legends Never Die people dont understand what it feels like to run in fear from a *gun* we all thought there was a weapon and i cant explain how that actually felt
phil, dude, why are you showing the chaos from this mistaken drill. its just fuel to the fire for potential crazies.
Phil, I just wanted to say THANK YOU so much for your show over the past year. You work so hard for every video you make. I appreciate all the information you put out. Way more informative then any TV NEWS network. I hope you and your family, and your employees have a wonderful holiday.
I can’t help but love that condescending tone Phil takes when reading out the school’s addresses to students and parents
That's his definition of de-escalation?? Jesus, I don't want to know what escalation is to that guy.
“SHE HAS A BABY! MA’AM DROP THE BABY NOW!!” **gun shots**
@KamuiLyn Trust me you'd also wave the stun gun at the crowd. Trust me you would.
@@nixonesport1998 stop whiteknighting the police in every comment. It's getting pathetic.
That was after the point of the escalation dumbass. There's this reality called the past that happens before the video starts. And probably contain some critical information that you have not seen
She most likely refused to leave or was being disorderly why doing so. Refusing a police order will get you arrested who would of thought?
Hey! This one had an ad! Yay!
Damn...everyday police officers are starting to resemble what Grand Theft Auto series has been trying to portray the whole time.
You can’t say “This is not a drill” when THATS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. Wow that school corporation is incompetent, and if that’s how the sheriff’s department has conducted those drills in the past, I’d say they’re pretty incompetent as well.
You don’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater, and you don’t announce “This is not a drill” when there is no threat.
The students will not take it seriously if they say it’s a drill. This is a fact not an opinion. I have been in drills for several years and no one takes it seriously and constantly talk.
@@orpheus1138 Yeah. When I was in HS we did drills too. We moved slow af and chatting and joking around. Our teacher would 'Oh no building is collapsing ah~' and tbh it only made me laugh.
@@WatsonAndDaughter Just reposting my personal experience. If the students have been shown on how to respond during a code red, this is exactly why it is necessary. In Canada during fire drills, or code reds are taken very, very seriously but never are previously announced as just a drill and parents aren't notified. We never, ever had chaos like that. At my high school we did have a genuine code red, a former teacher on mental health leave brought a gun among and Molotov cocktails to the school. It was handled professionally, calmly and nobody got hurt or scared. If students started rushing towards this former teacher, or chaos ensued like this school, who knows how the armed former teacher would of reacted and would of hindered the police response, as the police was able to make the arrest quickly before anybody got hurt and it helped that all students and staff were hiding and making the police job of locating the former teaching much easier and extremely fast.
AS a student, I'm mixed
ANy drill I've ever been a part of, nobody takes it seriously, its just go along with it, waste of our time kinda thing
SO I feel as making it seem as if its real is way more effective
But at the same time, it could normalize people to it, so when they hear this is not a drill, they may think its a drill even if its a real situation
SO I personally dont know tbh
Sir Quackerton Sure, that happens. But would you rather have a few talkers, or children/teens getting injured.
10:01 “ThE oNlY wAy tO gEt ThEiR aTtEntIon aNd EnsUrE tHey’Re dOinG whAt tHey’re sUppoSed to...”
Students: *gets stampeded*
That’s what I was thinking. They did not “do well” during the drill.
Evan Devin idk why I laughed so hard
Do you even know how annoying the American School System is? Administrators are so behind on modern information, use outdated and awful ways to control students, etc.
Thats basically terrorism
Once you say a drill is not a drill, no future drill will ever be considered serious!!
Netflix becoming like Blockbuster
OMG!!! I never even realized that David Dobrik's videos were all the same length!! LOL!! I actually had to go to his page and check!!
I'm not familiar with the procedures at Human Resources Administration Offices at all but why does sitting on the ground mean you're trespassing...
You're have an excuse for being stupid but you have no excuse for being ignorant when all you have to do is use your finger to rewind the video...
First of all, lovely attitude you've got there. You sound really easy to get along with...
Second of all, I did replay the coverage before I wrote the comment and I did it again before this one, but no one says why she was trespassing specifically because she was sitting instead of standing. I know she apparently had a missed court appearance which might mean that she is not allowed in government buildings or something (again, I'm not from the US, I don't know anything about US government procedures), but why would she be allowed to stand inside the building then. Why is it specifically trespassing if she's sitting on the ground instead of standing or sitting in a seat.
If I've missed something or just don't understand how it works, feel free to enlighten me. You could stand to be a little less smug about it though...
That's exactly what I was thinking too. Like, is it that big a deal someone is sitting on the ground? Give me a break. If my legs are tired and there's nowhere to sit, I'm gonna sit my butt on the floor. Plain and simple.
Okay well you obviously don't want to understand which is the only reason why you "can't"
It doesn't matter if she was sitting in the chair on the floor or on her baby, as soon as she's asked to leave the premises and *refuses* to leave that is the moment that she is trasspassing and is committing a crime.
There, I've spelt it out for you so watch my surprise when you still don't get it...
An unexamined life how’s that boot tasting?
Who tf is this David guy tho lmfao
apparently someone who thinks youtube fame equals mainstream fame 🙄
Kurtis Moore a great and talented vlogger/comedian
@@twistedrazor4730 lmao no dudes trash and cringy
Well, we all have our opinions
I'm the Florida school drill... I have so much sympathy for everyone involved. With not being in school since 2000, without counting college, I appreciated the education I had during drills. While growing up in Oklahoma, drills were vital to the survival of everyone during tornado season. And genuinely saved my life during the 1999 F5 tornado. As well as having experienced an active shooter at the mall I work at. There at work, I wish we had drills, or more clear understanding on what to do in that situation. I had coworkers who were wanting to leave when we had announcements stating there was police presence outside our building due to an active shooter. There was a lot of confusion, and panic. We live in a new era of terror... and social media sometimes helps, while also creating situations that further the chaos. I believe drills should exist... but I too hope their promises are not just lol service.
Netflix already tried doing a youtuber show with Miranda Sings. So I understand them not wanting to try again.
What about the one cop who is pulling the baby super aggressively ..
What about the woman using a child as a meatshield?
@@goggariS There's ways to deescalate a situation ESPECIALLY if there's a baby involved no matter what the cause. It's her baby, if you choose to touch the baby with the mother's discretion that's still harmful in anyway. You're telling me, if 2-5 cops came around you, you wouldn't hold your baby tightly? Even when their trying to grab the baby away from you? They literally pushed her to the point of hugging her baby, not the mothers fault but the police officers.
M4kimies What are those same cops going to do in an actually violent situation? This mother was arrested for sitting and refusing to stand or leave. What will these same cops do when raiding a crackhouse, teen brothel or hostage situation? Aggressively pulling a baby has a likely consequence of injury or worse. They should’ve escorted the mother and baby out, or handcuffed her to an officer or whatever it takes to not tear a baby from its mother.
@@cats1970 She was being arrested for refusing to leave. That is criminal trespassing. At the moment she started fighting with cops, she put her child in danger. She used her child as a shield and that has consequence. In that moment it is a hostage situation. Yes, they were pulling the child from her arms, but you can't have a tug of war without two people. She hurt that child as much as the officer did because she didn't want to be arrested. You are saying they should have escorted her out, but they couldn't' escort her out because she refused to leave. They were put in a situation where the only option they had was an arrest. Every step was an escalation, and that included her. Nobody is free of guilt in this situation.
@@FlyteDistrict She resisted arrest, and refused to hand over the baby. It's her fault
I feel like Netflix's test for seeing how a UA-cam creator's audience would transfer over to a Netflix show was really made through Colleen Ballenger's Haters Back Off. Netflix cancelled the show after two seasons, and it may be because Netflix wanted to test it out, but didn't get the return they wanted. I don't think David Dobrik's ability to not get a show at Netflix is entirely based on him being a UA-camr. I think it comes from the type of experience Netflix has had and if they truly believe a UA-cam audience will watch the show on Netflix. Netflix has been known to make so many different types of content, but it would not surprise if they're trying to learn lessons on what people actually want to watch on their platform. It's business. They want a return on investment.
Brian doesn’t help that it wasn’t funny either. That kind of character can only be stomached a few minutes at a time. Sorry but even the reviews are pretty harsh for the show.
i forgot about that show. it did not do well. even tho i like colleen i didnt think miranda sings transferred well.
The mom and baby story gave me flashbacks to watching the movie Mother!
Thank you for giving us fair warning for that new york story, but one thing that could benefit that as well is giving a few words to describe what could potentially be upsetting or triggering. Some stories will affect me and others might not, and having a few specific warnings can help me determine whether I'm safe watching it or not. Especially as someone with ptsd from childhood trauma, thank you so much for starting to include this. A few of your stories--especially those involving choking--have occasionally triggered me, and I feel a lot more at ease with these horrible but important stories to hear. Thanks again Phil.
(Living in Canada) when i was in high school fire alarms were so normal that we would take our sweet time to get out of the building, packing our things and taking them with us. thats what happens when you hear it too frequently (too much smoke in the cafeteria, drills, etc) , we never took it seriously, even the day there was a legitimate fire in a classroom. I hope these kids aren't too traumatized from this unfortunate incident :(
That's what you're supposed to, minus the packing your things. You're not supposed to run, you're supposed to walk in a calm manner. That's how we did it, and that's the best way to get everyone out safely. Usually fires aren't that fast, so taking another 30 seconds to get out isn't a bad idea.
Fellow Canadian here, we did on top of fire alarms a lot of code red drills. Some did, some didn't take it serious but they went through the proper motions still, and that is what matter. When a former teacher brought guns and Molotov cocktails to the school, we had an actual code red everybody just did what they normally did at it worked perfectly. Nobody was super panicked or scared because, which I think if they always announced it was a drill, when that one time it wasn't I wonder if people would of panicked and not followed procedure. I don't get why people think this is traumatising for the students, they freaked out which was the completely wrong reaction. The code red we had to deal with since it operated properly thankfully nobody got shot, and led to the former teacher fleeing the scene as the police arrived leaving us in lock down for a long period of time after school had ended. Nobody I knew was traumatised or mentally scared from this event, and people went back the next day to school like it was a normal day.
My younger brother was at that school when the drill happened, and unfortunately he did have nightmares after. I worry because I went to that school, I know people in the area. It forced me to think about what could have happened if it was real. I didn’t see the cafeteria video, but it gave me such anxiety. He told me he was at lunch during this time, he ran all the way out of school, terrified for his life
@@ivanbliminse7038 so Canadians are more AMerican than I thought if you have american style code red drills.
Same here, Canadian as well and we did them so frequently in high school that eventually the alarms went off and it was the standard 'here we go again' feeling. The difference being this time the drill turned out to be a bomb threat evacuation but we were so used to the drills, teachers included, there was no effort to hurry. We found out it was a bomb threat after our teacher did. She was already mad the 'drill' was the worst time over the entire year, so after she was told it was a bomb threat she went to yell at the principal for waiting so long to get us out. I never found out how long but apparently they had the email for awhile before pulling the alarm. This was back in 2003, drill fatigue is a thing, and in our case we were lucky it was just a hoax because there were still people in the school when the bomb was supposed to go off.
As for the story i get that the teachers wanted to do a drill but when it leads to students getting hurt they fucking fail. I want to hear more about this story next week, specifically that those who were in charge are being held responsible and receive some kind of punishment. You do not start a drill with 'this is not a drill'.
If they keep doing drills while announcing they are not drills, people will get used to it and not respond correctly when it's actually happening. It's the boy who cried wolf in real life. The school who cried shooter.
Then they should be smart and treat life seriously not like a fuckin game.
We had a man get in our high school with a gun and a knife. They told us it was a drill. It was not a drill.
Two floors above us he was screaming and slamming against a door trying to get into a class.
It was later found out the gun was fake. But still. I wish they told us so everyone would stop goofing around.
@@joelromero6074 to whom are you referring exactly?
I remember "cod red drills" me and my friends never did as told and generally would just chill in the cafeteria,or library depending on which was closer till all the idiots were gone.
More important than blaming, the learning here was that the student body reacted in total panic and chaos; any prescribed protocol was instantly abandoned. That response needs to be rectified.
Lucky the baby didn't suffer broken bones and pulled joints after those vicious tugs at it.
EirikXL im glad the baby wasnt hurt but had she just listend and not tried to use the baby to resist arrest i doubt it would have happend. We didn't get to see thr buildup on what the cops tried to do before to seperate them and they may have been left with the only option of forcibly removing the baby to arrest her.
I'm soooo fucking mad that the cops aren't in jail
@@DvsMoi6 When it comes to a lot of situations, cops almost always get off easy
Or after the psycho using it as a human shield probably squeezed it to the point of injury
@@nathanlong8295 woah calm down there
I miss the old school discussion videos on fridays
I graduated High School in June, and albeit I'm in Canada, whenever we had a *surprise* lockdown drill the faculty would be informed a day ahead so students would not freak out because as the alarm went off they would tell us. We may have an announcement in the morning to warn any students about a drill later in the day, but we were also informed regardless of a drill or not to NOT have our phones out because the lights could be seen by an intruder. I dunno, it always went pretty smoothly because there was a controlled authority who knew there was no danger and that we just needed to follow procedure in case of an actual event. When we knew we were safe but still had the initial surprise of the lockdown alarm (and had to follow procedure we had been taught while not expecting to refer to our past lessons) the drills went a lot better and we could move on with regular classes without a problem.