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Do you ever listen to some of these drummers and take techniques and try to incorporate into your playing? I love how Tomas uses his left foot to "chirp" the high hats throughout the song to give additional texture and rhythm to the beat.
Never heard Meshuggah, doesn’t listen to metal, immediately gets the disgusted heavy face when you hear a brutal part of the song! Brutal Face it’s a thing!!
He lives in Sweden now? He grew up in PA United States I heard. I heard he would practice so much his mom would often just end up bringing his dinner down to him and he’d eat off his snare drum.
Fun fact: during their live shows, they have a light guy who literally pushes buttons in sync with the music to control the lights, rather than programming the light to the click tracks or something. At least that's what they've been doing. They're an incredible band to watch live and even more intense than what you saw in this video!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums yeah there are videos, it's pretty insane. Heard about it after a show in their hometown up north here in Sweden, where I also caught Haake's drumstick. That fact blew me away. Great night, great band!
@@aaohknsn it's an aquired taste but it's beautiful. it's not awful. once you get into meshuggah and their technicality, everything else sounds like such basic music.
Jens Kidman is one of the best Heavy Metal "singers" ever in my opinion. Absolutely no compromises, no dynamics, no clean parts, no loud/quiet parts, no low or high parts, just "in your face" all the time, but with an impressive and matchless rhythmical precision, like said before, like an instrument or like a part of the drumset. He has so much unhuman energy and a very individual kind of heavy metal "singing" in comparison to other metal vocalists. Absolut outstanding, and beside that, a very funny and sympathic person.
I totally respect the guy's talent and musicianship, but this type of vocals is a major turn off for me. It's a shame too because I love this type of drumming/guitar/bass! I've tried and tried but I just can't dig it.
Well,to be fair this isn't metal,its fucking Meshuggah!! I do understand your point but there are lots and lots of boring drummers in metal like in any other genre.
@@andrepereira744 Metal has a higher skill floor than any other genre in general. Even beginner pop-metal like Asking Alexandria requires more effort than other beginner level songs in other genres besides jazz, maybe.
I’m sure Thomas Haake has a different brain for each limb. His talent and ability are just out of this world. The worst part is how easy he makes it look
He’s like an octopus 😂. I was just thinking this as well, I can’t believe how he can keep all four limbs in completely different patterns simultaneously, and not ever miss a beat by a microsecond. He’s a savant
The key to greatness of Tomas Haake is its all polyrhythms, yet his right hand hi-hats always stay in 4/4 so you can still headbang to it. that right hand is as solid as a rock.
It was crazy when that clicked for me. I listen to a lot of prog music so I'm used to the odd time signatures but don't have a good enough sense of rhythm to figure them out on my own so it always threw me off listening to Meshuggah. The steady pulse is always there and surrounded by layered polythythms moving in and out of synch with each other over several bars. Its chaotic but perfectly controlled.
Just in case you didn't already think Tomas was talented enough, he writes the majority of Meshuggah's lyrics. He also writes some of the guitar riffs using recording software and samples and stuff like that and he once built a bass guitar from scratch even though he has absolutely no idea of how to play a bass guitar. Basically he is an absolute legend, hahaha.
I agree with everybody that suggests that you should react to The Legendary Bleed but god damn Clockworks tramples Bleed from an overall drumming point of view.
Yeah Bleed is incredible from a performance point of view and it's more immediately accessible, but Clockworks is just such a complex piece of work even though it might seem less flashy.
As a european I always wondered about this. In every metal comment section there is at least 1000 come to Brazil/Chile. I would not expect so many metalheads from Latin America edit: There is a chilean (?) metal band with my username. They are quite good, even though I'm not quite into power/thrash metal
@@Inferiis Dude, south america has always been a hotbed for metal and they are super passioned about it! The south american crowds are the best in the world, no doubt. Especially the Argentinean, they are fucking insane! The brazilians are amazing too. If you havent heard "Sepultura", I highy advise you to do so. One of the best trash metal bands ever.
Loved the calm insightful reaction. Respect for someone not used to this music. As a long time Meshuggah fan, while MANY will recommend you the infamous ‘stamina miracle’ Bleed, I’d personally say check out Dancers to a Discordant System. It highlights one of Thomas’ absolute strengths: slower cyclical grooves that are downright danceable. I’ve met them and ‘groove metal’ is a description they gave their blessing, rather than ‘math metal’ which they dislike, meshuggah’s all about feel, not calculating. iconic ‘old’ gems that highlights the same groovey quality of Thomas are New Millenium Cynanide Christ and Rational Gaze. They started out as more thrashy and every album explores their trendsetting 8string guitar sound in a new way. On a sidenote: thomas also writes the lyrics and they have fantastic ones. Meshuggah’s worth delving into, have fun!
Also back the dancers comment, outstanding track overall and maybe even a touch more accessible than clockworks... just... what a privilege to witness this kind of talent in action, joyous
Kjær Dían agreed, it’s amazing. Also yeah I thinks Dancers is rhythmically more accessible, though maybe melodically less? Idk about the latter, but seeing as this is about drumming, who cares, lol.
Lucky you. I saw Tool on the Lateralus tour too, but missed the mighty Meshuggah. Tomahawk opened at our show. Been a Meshuggah fan for about 20 years. Never saw them live. That has to change.
@@danmarshall5895 Theres no doubt about that. If you've ever seen Tool live, you can see Haakes' influence in the way Carey has played since Lateralus. They're both f'n amazing.
I appreciate this dude being legit instead of trying to stop every 10 seconds and explain it how he likes whatever, this is badass the kind of music you just shut up and listen to
Thomas Haawke is the ulitmate evolution of a drummer. Jazz time signatures in EACH LIMB and an ability to double bass with the guitar picking..... incredible and I HAVE to see them live at least once. Legendary.
Tomas Haake is only known for Meshuggah. He is also the lyricist in Meshuggah, like Neil Peart was in Rush. You should check out Nostrum from the same album as Clockworks. It is truly a drum masterpiece.
In fact, we may all remember the first initial album snippets from Tomas. What would be known as Nostrum sounded like absolute madness when the parts were isolated. End product? Possibly the top track on the album outside Clockworks.
I don't think there's any words to describe exactly what Tomas plays. He's in a completely different realm of existence behind a kit. An absolute joy to watch and listen to.
All those things you said the song was doing to you are all the reasons I have gone back to metal over and over and over again over the last three decades. Just when I think it isn't going to show me anything new I stumble across something that blows my mind
"trying to play that every night ..." bro watch him play BLEED live at even higher tempo than the album. it's absolutely mental. it is said that Tomas Haake took up drums because he thought drum machines weren't precise enough
As a non-drummer who actually wanted to try learning drums about 40 years ago.. watching the drumcam is almost hypnotic.. trying to match the movements to the rhythm in real time. That man has such talent and we are blessed to have him in the industry.
As a metalhead, I totally agree with what you said about the vocals in metal being a "barrier". I had to overcome that barrier myself, but as a Meshuggah fan, I can tell you their vocals are ANOTHER barrier, even within the metal community!
Steadily drinks the coffee at the intro...and smiles. Say no more! Editing to return and say this reaction and assessment was so spot-on. Everything you noticed is only what a pro would. And I’ve followed the band for two decades, traded emails with Tomas, seen them headline their newer stuff and open for Tool in arenas. For a first swing, you showed a lot of restraint and respect. Hope you can dig into their catalogue because it really runs the gamut of heaviness and creativity. Cheers.
Can confirm meshuggah gig HARD and are just as amazing live as you would hope. UA-cam recommended the vid and I loved it mate. Will defo check out more. Stay safe bud.
Wow, thats a really open minded response re the vocals in extreme metal. Most people are like "Uggh, metal is shit because you can't understand what they're singing" But like you rightly pointed out, the vocals go with the music, and yes you're right, the more you listen to the bands, the more you don't really notice it and it becomes the norm. The vocals are an instrument in extreme metal. They're not used in the same way as 'normal' music vocalists. In metal, the instruments are the key focus, the vocals are kind of secondary. Where as in popular music it's all about the vocalist.
God d e a mn you are perfectly right, for sure! Vocal in not the key, I love the music, guitar parts, drums and the vocal part is not so much for me...the same is Veil of maya for example, the first 3 albums
I like some metal, I love early slipknot, I don't know how Corey Taylor even has a voice left. But bands with these style of 'vocals' just sound horrible. It's boring, rote, no tone, no rhythm, illegible. As intricate as this drumming is, I can't even get through half a song. It sounds like they lazily spent about 6 seconds coming up with something for the vocalist to repetitively croak out. Some vocals DO add to the intensity even if you can't understand them - but this does not.
@@chocolate_squiggle the vocals actually do have a very precise rhythm, and it weaves in and out of the underlying riff. So regardless of your opinion on whether they sound good or not (subjective, of course) it would be wrong to say that they haven't been carefully planned out
The thing I like about these reaction videos is how many of them say they’ve never listened to metal and how much they enjoy it. I’m a 55 yr old man and pretty much only listen to metal, so much of it that my son since he was born (1999) has had to listen to it while strapped in his car seat and now blows my mind with his metal guitar abilities. More people need to give metal a chance, maybe not Meshuggah to begin with but try some Gojira or Lamb of God
Yes, Thomas "Hah-Ke" is synonymous with Meshuggah. Watch his playthrough of "Bleed" next. The song took him 6 months before he could play it properly. Great reaction. Thanks for being open minded enough to appreciate this. Meshuggah can be tough for new listeners.
I first started listening when Destroy Erase Improve came out. I would get headaches listening while trying to understand what I was hearing. It was sooo intense! One of my Favs from that album is Soul Burn....so funky.
Incredible musicianship from Meshuggah. There was a part of guitar weird tones coming in and my body eargasmed with instense chill for good 10-15 seconds :D Awesome music
What a great review. You are definitely an opened minded individual. Metal is like a highway, its difficult to adjust when dropped off in the middle of high speed traffic without taking the slow on-ramp first. Meshuggah is a gem and one of a kind. They're one of those bands that actually pull off live performances better than the record. Not to mention, an out of this world lighting show.
Tomas Haake has a totally unique playing style, is a legend in the metal scene and it's always great to see new people exposed to the band. Doing it with a cup of tea in your hand is top class :D If I recall from an interview, the left hi-hat is mostly played with his foot though I have seen him play it with sticks a few rare times. If you like this, check out Elliot Hoffman and Carbomb. I recommend the tune "Black Blood".
Dude, check out Eloy Casagrande from Sepultura!!!! Specifically Manipulation if Tragedy. Somewhat similarly styles however Eloy utilizes a lot more of tribal beats and rhythms with thrash metal. That kid is a BEAST!!!!
The face you make at about 7:35 is the standard face for those who are getting all the emotion out of this music. The music is angry, aggressive and beautiful all at the same time.
Meshuggah is a hard listen, not because they're bad, they are definitely not. They're a great band and their compositions are really out there, but it's not something you can expect anyone to like on their first few listens. Their music is so sharp, brutal and in your face that it takes time for their compositional patterns to appear in your head as you listen.
You're so right. I was overwhelmed when I heard Meshuggah in the early 2000s. I was intrigued at first and thought wow, this is Metal on a whole other level. Took me a little bit but after a few listens, I was hooked. 20 years later I'm still in awe of their awesomeness.
@@rubaidaallen2764 Same here. I heard bleed and thought it was ok and then didn't listen to them for years. But then I heard clockworks and something clicked. Now their best song is all their songs. I find peace in the comfort of their music.
I can honestly say, since digging more deeply into Meshuggah, I’ve become more close minded with other music because they are on such an insane level, and so atypical, it makes other decent metal bands just sound basic.
I love them but even after listening to them for years now I still have to take them in doses. It's intense trying to listen closely take it all in, like a musical workout session.
One of the best Extreme groove Metal songs of all time IMO. I saw these guys with go on before Ministry at the Warfield back in the day I’ve been a fan ever since they are siiiiiick!
@Richard Harrold You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this topic but are you referring to the "real world" drum sounding worse from the sampled recorded version? Like the sonic separation of kick and snare? If so doesn't this have alot to do with actual "room" you are playing in such as a hall or venue of some type? I'm very uneducated on the pros and cons of sampling kits, as this video in particular sounded extremely full and well rounded.
@Richard Harrold So on the album "Empath" Devin hired a couple drummers, one being 66Samus and the other being Anup Sastry. I just watched the "Hear Me" playthrough, then went and watched the Anup Sastry playthrough of "Singularity" on the same album and Sastry's kit does indeed sound snappier and crisper. After you pointed out the sampling, I did noticed the drums having a sort of flatter, (for lack of a better term) even sound. As a casual observer I didn't pick up on that at all. I just presumed that "Hear Me' was in fact recorded in a more muted tone to set them into the background a little more as to not over power the music. I hope I made a little sense there.
@Richard Harrold agreed. However, he's addressed the use of samples as a necessity - he simply doesn't have the time to edit his drums every time, and he does online lessons on another kit which uses most of the mics he has. It's one thing to make time for editing if the mics are placed well from the beginning, but having to move them between kits that much is just too much time.
Just subscribed. I love watching these reaction videos you do. The fact you're a drum teacher, so are clearly proficient and playing at a high level, but still have no ego and show your appreciation openly with some of these other drummers is excellent to see. Watching you getting inspired and keen to try new things is really refreshing. I might be in the minority but I love it when you stop the videos to talk about what you're watching. Keep up the good work.
Or Born in Dissonance. Also, that's the English language for ya. Singer is used for the person that sings. Lyricist is someone who writes or composes the lyrics of the song. Technically, he was correct in his statement
Back in 2012 I played at soundwave festival and got to watch Meshuggah from the side of the stage and they were the quietest onstage band I've ever heard. Tomas was incredible to watch and made it all look so easy. I don't think he even broke a sweat. Vinnie Paul on the other hand was incredibly loud and was pounding the hell out of his drums. He was sweating before they'd finished their first song. Edit: forgot to say, Tomas seemed like a really cool, down to earth guy. I didn't even know he was the drummer for Meshuggah when I first saw him setting up/adjusting his kit because I'd only ever listened to them. He even said hi to me first. I was playing in a pop punk band that day so I didn't look like a typical Meshuggah fan and he was totally cool, not a single pretentious bone in his body.
It is literally a crime, that there are no reactions to Mats & Morgan band. ONLY two channels have reacted to "Sol Niger within" With Fredrik and Morgan, which just.. makes me sad 😕 Should be on every drum channel.
I highly recommend checking out the drummer for Car Bomb. He does essentially the exact opposite thing from Tomas. Tomas plays over the bar line phrases while maintaining 4/4. Elliot Hoffman and Car Bomb actually practice extensively by watching each other because they use extremely odd phrases and time signatures without a steady tempo throughout the song. The band has said they have to watch each other and learn how to feel the quick note rate changes and time signature changes. Definitely check it out
"Us...civilians, are used to." Haha! Loved your video! Pravus or Straws Pulled At Random are great Meshuggah follow ups even though everyone will suggest, Bleed.
They gig at that intensity, pretty much non stop, for 3 hours a night, every night while on tour. Probably one of the most brutal live bands I have ever witnessed.
Super cool channel you are running here Andrew. A big thumbs up from Denmark. If you are interested in other "above the average" drummers, here is a little list that you might like: Morgan Aagren (Swedish "fusion-prog-jazz-rock drummer" - extremely skilled. The obvious one would probably be "Sol Niger Within" where he is playing metal. That one is crazy.) Bobby Jarzombek ("Peppered Cancer" would be a good choice) Gavin Harrison ("Threatening War" an easy listening little melodi) Marco Minnemann (tons of good videos with him out there) Gene Hoglan ("Skeksis" from his time in Strapping Young Lad) Matt Halpern and Matt Garska (Super and technically prolificient groovy metal drummers)
I was so focused on the music and watching Tomas, that just in minute 4 I noticed Chile's hoodie !!!! 🤘🤘🤘 I saw Meshuggah here 🇨🇱 and I definitely LOVE THOSE GUYS !!!!
Again, your reactions are awesome! You've got a new sub here. I like that you're not a metal person but you can absolutely appreciate and love what he's doing - I wish more people were as open minded as you are. And I can't believe you've had Jamie from Ulcerate on twice! That man is amazing as well. And you're right - the vocals are the barrier, absolutely. I tend to look at them as just another instrument as opposed to as in pop/rap/country when it's actually the voice you're focusing on. Keep doing what you're doing, friend!
Sure, the basic line is mostly 4/4. But on top of that there is different patterns like 13. Plus the bass drum can be in it's own something like 21 or 25 counts. So different brain for every limb is close to the truth!
@@daviddevilliers2828 Yes, been following Yogev for a while. Also did some 8 years of private lessons from a drummer who has different brains for every limb. And that's an understatement. He can change the paired limbs during the play and still have two time signatures at the same time. Like 5/4 and 13/12 and then change what limbs do them. Feet to hand and left to right. I don't know if anyone else in the world can do that?
The basic pattern in the hands in the verses is a simple 4:3 polyrhythm. The challenge is lining up those triples with the 4 beats in the hands and also keeping up with the meter changes. I made a cover for Do Not Look Back of Meshuggah years ago (it's in another channel) and the only way I managed to do it was by learning and reading a transcription of the track. The most difficult thing is keeping up with the accents and meter changes.
@@cameronmcmahon4002 I had Benny on my podcast last month! He's a great guy and superb drummer. andrewrooneydrums.com/nz-drummer-podcast-ep-64-benny-greb/
Hey Andrew how´s it goin!! One of my favorites contemporary drummers, i was in all their concerts in Chile and the sound is amazing!! i told you man, what a nice sweatshirt haha, greeting from Chile po!!
@@GAIS414 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you're funny. Seriously though Lars isn't that awful. I've seen the mighty Metallica live a few times and I have to say he's alright. He's no where near as F'N AWESOME as the holy trinity, but he's alright in my book.
Dan Presland from Ne Obliviscaris, Alex Bent from Trivium, Mario Duplantier from Gojira, Josean Orta from Fit For An Autopsy, Chris Turner from Oceans Ate Alaska and Andrew Baird from Fallujah are a real treat as well, in my opinion. I'd love to see you check out any of those drummers in the future!
Tomas Haake (you're close on his last name, put a longer E sound at the end) has an interesting process. He gets sent the songs from one of the guitarists, then spends a few days to weeks programming on a drum machine. He then, after perfecting the program, spends a few weeks on the kit learning what he programmed.
LucasRza Yeah, I saw Gojira last summer, they were awesome. I saw Mastodon in 2007 and they were insane, Meshuggah also played that same night, but I'd probably enjoy Meshuggah more in an indoors venue.
The main verse beat is just "snare kick kick" over and over in 16th notes and 16th triplets. It's amazing how fluidly he goes back and forth between the two subdivisions while keeping time with the hihat or other cymbal.
I'm a guitarist that started on piano and then drums. I have played music for over 35 years and I primarily play progressive death metal on guitar nowadays. I typically play for at least an hour a day. I can play bleed on guitar for about 45 secs before I lose it. That's how ridiculous that song is.
Please do "Reptile" by Periphery, you won't regret it! Periphery is, in my opinion a perfect step coming from Meshuggah and Tool. Their music is similar to both bands in ways and they have an excellent blend of harsh and clean vocals with incredible drumming.
This songs drum part is really cool because it’s essentially LH, RF, LF over and over. It gets weird because he takes that three note pattern and plays it as 16th notes which is a 3 over 4 idea but then also plays that pattern as 16th note triplets. He uses those two note rates to follow the guitar part which ends up making longer over the bar line phrases that become very difficult to memorize especially when his right hand is staying in 4/4 and keeping time as quarter notes or 8th notes. Tomas is a complete innovator and the way he approaches rhythm is next level
I like :) unlike many others you do not try to "understand" it immediately even though you probably do, you dont try to explain it in technical terms but rather enjoy the music and enjoy the craft. :)
I’ve seen them live a few times over the years (the drummer and rhythm guitarist are from my hometown, so also at small venues back in the 90’s, and festivals in later years). You walk out of there exhausted and exhilarated - it’s like being brutally attacked (musically) for an hour straight, it just doesn’t let up, but in the best way! See them live if you get the chance!
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Do you ever listen to some of these drummers and take techniques and try to incorporate into your playing?
I love how Tomas uses his left foot to "chirp" the high hats throughout the song to give additional texture and rhythm to the beat.
That 4/4 hi-hat portion is like a solid foundation, and the polyrhythms are like a gothic/lovecraftian cathedral built on top of it. Incredible.
Never heard Meshuggah, doesn’t listen to metal, immediately gets the disgusted heavy face when you hear a brutal part of the song! Brutal Face it’s a thing!!
Yeah It's definitely a thing. It's called "bassface" or "grimeface" in electronic music genres :D
I just know of good ol' Stank-Face or, even defined by Meshuggah's very own Vocalisst Jens Kidman, Jens-Face :D
Stank face ftw!
Yes! Even non-metalheads can't help but get that "stank face" when the sonic brutality kicks in! haha
That part of the song just hits so hard. Sounds amazing
When Tomas is not slaying drums he fishes near his home in Sweden. No joke
Zen master!
Eyy another fisherman musician in metal. There's more than you'd think
@@blacksaltscotland The drummer from Barcode too.
He lives in Sweden now? He grew up in PA United States I heard. I heard he would practice so much his mom would often just end up bringing his dinner down to him and he’d eat off his snare drum.
@@larrytate1657 no he didn't..lol. He never lived in the US in Pennsylvania. You got lied to
Fun fact: during their live shows, they have a light guy who literally pushes buttons in sync with the music to control the lights, rather than programming the light to the click tracks or something. At least that's what they've been doing. They're an incredible band to watch live and even more intense than what you saw in this video!
Thanks for the reminder. A few people did mention this. I need to check it out
@@AndrewRooneyDrums yeah there are videos, it's pretty insane. Heard about it after a show in their hometown up north here in Sweden, where I also caught Haake's drumstick. That fact blew me away. Great night, great band!
Finally someone doing a song other than “Bleed.”
Finally someone said it 😂😂
The reason why I clicked the video
He reacts to Bleed as well :D
Ms. Norton same lol
Other Meshuggah songs exist? You don’t say.
The key to understanding Meshuggah's vocals, at least, is that, like the guitars, it's treated more as a percussive, rhythmic instrument.
Yeah Man. I totally get that!
don't know the name of the singer, but he's the reason i can't listen very long to meshuggah. It may be ritmic but it's sounds awfull
@@aaohknsn it's an aquired taste but it's beautiful. it's not awful. once you get into meshuggah and their technicality, everything else sounds like such basic music.
Jens Kidman is one of the best Heavy Metal "singers" ever in my opinion. Absolutely no compromises, no dynamics, no clean parts, no loud/quiet parts, no low or high parts, just "in your face" all the time, but with an impressive and matchless rhythmical precision, like said before, like an instrument or like a part of the drumset. He has so much unhuman energy and a very individual kind of heavy metal "singing" in comparison to other metal vocalists. Absolut outstanding, and beside that, a very funny and sympathic person.
I totally respect the guy's talent and musicianship, but this type of vocals is a major turn off for me. It's a shame too because I love this type of drumming/guitar/bass! I've tried and tried but I just can't dig it.
He’s a killer drummer.
Not enough people in the world appreciate how insane metal is, the skill required to play this kinda of stuff is crazy.
Well,to be fair this isn't metal,its fucking Meshuggah!! I do understand your point but there are lots and lots of boring drummers in metal like in any other genre.
@@andrepereira744 Metal has a higher skill floor than any other genre in general. Even beginner pop-metal like Asking Alexandria requires more effort than other beginner level songs in other genres besides jazz, maybe.
the conditioning on top of the skill. like dude has cardio for fucking days. never skips leg day.
@@MrCholoPants3415 Their drummer is the most talented musician of the band too !
@@MrCholoPants3415 AA's drummer is really good. It's kind of sad how held back he is. However, the self titled album has really fun drum tracks.
I’m sure Thomas Haake has a different brain for each limb. His talent and ability are just out of this world. The worst part is how easy he makes it look
Well said. How he seperates the paths in his brain is alien.
When he played bleed at the show he looked like he was waiting for the bus.
He’s like an octopus 😂. I was just thinking this as well, I can’t believe how he can keep all four limbs in completely different patterns simultaneously, and not ever miss a beat by a microsecond. He’s a savant
The key to greatness of Tomas Haake is its all polyrhythms, yet his right hand hi-hats always stay in 4/4 so you can still headbang to it. that right hand is as solid as a rock.
Polymeters mostly. Sometimes polyrhythms.
It was crazy when that clicked for me. I listen to a lot of prog music so I'm used to the odd time signatures but don't have a good enough sense of rhythm to figure them out on my own so it always threw me off listening to Meshuggah. The steady pulse is always there and surrounded by layered polythythms moving in and out of synch with each other over several bars. Its chaotic but perfectly controlled.
Just in case you didn't already think Tomas was talented enough, he writes the majority of Meshuggah's lyrics. He also writes some of the guitar riffs using recording software and samples and stuff like that and he once built a bass guitar from scratch even though he has absolutely no idea of how to play a bass guitar.
Basically he is an absolute legend, hahaha.
Bro he did so much that he can retire now and no one would dare to say anything lol
i wouldn't call the lyricist 'talented'. ever.
@@cliveramsbotty6077 are you mad. It's poetry
@@cliveramsbotty6077 Sorry dude, that's a pretty ignorant comment...
@@MickH60 explain 'ignorant'
I love how he swings his ghost notes with more velocity than a lot of drummers power strokes!
HAHA Yup!
At that point ARE they ghost notes then? 🤔
@@Metguy123 If the accents are louder, then yes!
This, ladies and gentlemen, it's what we call a "CLEAN" drum performance. Tomas unbelievable as always.
100% Matheus!
I agree with everybody that suggests that you should react to The Legendary Bleed but god damn Clockworks tramples Bleed from an overall drumming point of view.
Absolutely. Bleed is awesome but there's other masterpieces too.
Yeah Bleed is incredible from a performance point of view and it's more immediately accessible, but Clockworks is just such a complex piece of work even though it might seem less flashy.
Bleed draws new fans in, clockworks keeps them there
Bleed is the hardest on your legs, Clockworks is hard on your brain
Bleed is a gateway drug, Clockworks is the true hard stuff.
You should do animals as leaders drummer Matt garstka playing ectogenesis.
Or the brain dance
Or a song he would actually enjoy without being a total proghead 🙄
My thoughts exactly.
Arithmophobia
Lippincott has one of the best fills ever in his playthrough
Funny that you wore a jacket that says "Chile." Chile is renowned for having the best crowds at Meshuggah live shows.
MEH SHOO GAH! MEH SHOO GAH!
As a european I always wondered about this. In every metal comment section there is at least 1000 come to Brazil/Chile. I would not expect so many metalheads from Latin America
edit: There is a chilean (?) metal band with my username. They are quite good, even though I'm not quite into power/thrash metal
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@@Inferiis Dude, south america has always been a hotbed for metal and they are super passioned about it! The south american crowds are the best in the world, no doubt. Especially the Argentinean, they are fucking insane! The brazilians are amazing too. If you havent heard "Sepultura", I highy advise you to do so. One of the best trash metal bands ever.
Chile is home of under appreciated metal band Coprofago. Love those guys.
Loved the calm insightful reaction. Respect for someone not used to this music. As a long time Meshuggah fan, while MANY will recommend you the infamous ‘stamina miracle’ Bleed, I’d personally say check out Dancers to a Discordant System. It highlights one of Thomas’ absolute strengths: slower cyclical grooves that are downright danceable. I’ve met them and ‘groove metal’ is a description they gave their blessing, rather than ‘math metal’ which they dislike, meshuggah’s all about feel, not calculating.
iconic ‘old’ gems that highlights the same groovey quality of Thomas are New Millenium Cynanide Christ and Rational Gaze. They started out as more thrashy and every album explores their trendsetting 8string guitar sound in a new way.
On a sidenote: thomas also writes the lyrics and they have fantastic ones. Meshuggah’s worth delving into, have fun!
Silrian777 I liked the fact that he wasn’t talking over 90% of the video
Math Rock is a genre children gave to prog.. It's just prog metal
Yes do dancers next its next level
Also back the dancers comment, outstanding track overall and maybe even a touch more accessible than clockworks... just... what a privilege to witness this kind of talent in action, joyous
Kjær Dían agreed, it’s amazing. Also yeah I thinks Dancers is rhythmically more accessible, though maybe melodically less? Idk about the latter, but seeing as this is about drumming, who cares, lol.
I saw Tool and Meshuggah on tour years ago. Danny and Tomas just put on such a master class that night.
Lucky you. I saw Tool on the Lateralus tour too, but missed the mighty Meshuggah. Tomahawk opened at our show. Been a Meshuggah fan for about 20 years. Never saw them live. That has to change.
Rubaida Allen yes it does. man is it an experience, you’ll be making jens faces the whole show
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Cannot wait. The last time they were in my city I had to work that night. So f'n mad about that 🤬🤬🤬 Definitely will go next time.
Danny has said he asked to bring Meshuggah on tour so that he could study what Haake does every night.
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Theres no doubt about that. If you've ever seen Tool live, you can see Haakes' influence in the way Carey has played since Lateralus. They're both f'n amazing.
Saw them a few weeks ago. Spectacular concert.
I appreciate this dude being legit instead of trying to stop every 10 seconds and explain it how he likes whatever, this is badass the kind of music you just shut up and listen to
Thanks Dustin!
Thomas Haawke is the ulitmate evolution of a drummer. Jazz time signatures in EACH LIMB and an ability to double bass with the guitar picking..... incredible and I HAVE to see them live at least once. Legendary.
Tomas Haake is only known for Meshuggah. He is also the lyricist in Meshuggah, like Neil Peart was in Rush. You should check out Nostrum from the same album as Clockworks. It is truly a drum masterpiece.
In fact, we may all remember the first initial album snippets from Tomas. What would be known as Nostrum sounded like absolute madness when the parts were isolated. End product? Possibly the top track on the album outside Clockworks.
You don't listen to this genre, yet you're all smiles at the skill involved. Subscribed.
I don't think there's any words to describe exactly what Tomas plays. He's in a completely different realm of existence behind a kit. An absolute joy to watch and listen to.
All those things you said the song was doing to you are all the reasons I have gone back to metal over and over and over again over the last three decades. Just when I think it isn't going to show me anything new I stumble across something that blows my mind
"trying to play that every night ..." bro watch him play BLEED live at even higher tempo than the album. it's absolutely mental.
it is said that Tomas Haake took up drums because he thought drum machines weren't precise enough
BurghezulDjentilom, if that’s true: holy crap. Tomas Haake ain’t human.
As a non-drummer who actually wanted to try learning drums about 40 years ago.. watching the drumcam is almost hypnotic.. trying to match the movements to the rhythm in real time. That man has such talent and we are blessed to have him in the industry.
As a metalhead, I totally agree with what you said about the vocals in metal being a "barrier". I had to overcome that barrier myself, but as a Meshuggah fan, I can tell you their vocals are ANOTHER barrier, even within the metal community!
Steadily drinks the coffee at the intro...and smiles. Say no more!
Editing to return and say this reaction and assessment was so spot-on. Everything you noticed is only what a pro would. And I’ve followed the band for two decades, traded emails with Tomas, seen them headline their newer stuff and open for Tool in arenas. For a first swing, you showed a lot of restraint and respect. Hope you can dig into their catalogue because it really runs the gamut of heaviness and creativity. Cheers.
HAHA Justin!
Can confirm meshuggah gig HARD and are just as amazing live as you would hope.
UA-cam recommended the vid and I loved it mate. Will defo check out more.
Stay safe bud.
Mind blowing that they can do this night in/night out.
Likewise Brother. Go well!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Tomas Haake is a fucking machine lol. Check out the Bleed (live drumcam).
Amazing Gig too... have only seen them live once in London, but it is the standout show of any I've ever been too..the light show alone, holy shit
Wow, thats a really open minded response re the vocals in extreme metal.
Most people are like "Uggh, metal is shit because you can't understand what they're singing"
But like you rightly pointed out, the vocals go with the music, and yes you're right, the more you listen to the bands, the more you don't really notice it and it becomes the norm.
The vocals are an instrument in extreme metal. They're not used in the same way as 'normal' music vocalists. In metal, the instruments are the key focus, the vocals are kind of secondary.
Where as in popular music it's all about the vocalist.
It took me a little bit to get into metal with harsh vocals, then I realized the vocals add to the intensity of the song
God d e a mn you are perfectly right, for sure! Vocal in not the key, I love the music, guitar parts, drums and the vocal part is not so much for me...the same is Veil of maya for example, the first 3 albums
I like some metal, I love early slipknot, I don't know how Corey Taylor even has a voice left. But bands with these style of 'vocals' just sound horrible. It's boring, rote, no tone, no rhythm, illegible. As intricate as this drumming is, I can't even get through half a song. It sounds like they lazily spent about 6 seconds coming up with something for the vocalist to repetitively croak out. Some vocals DO add to the intensity even if you can't understand them - but this does not.
Exactly
@@chocolate_squiggle the vocals actually do have a very precise rhythm, and it weaves in and out of the underlying riff. So regardless of your opinion on whether they sound good or not (subjective, of course) it would be wrong to say that they haven't been carefully planned out
That guitar solo is one of the craziest I've ever heard. Can't believe I haven't heard this before.
One of the best drummers ever. Even Danny Carey looks up to and appreciates Tomas talents
Killer Danny!
The thing I like about these reaction videos is how many of them say they’ve never listened to metal and how much they enjoy it.
I’m a 55 yr old man and pretty much only listen to metal, so much of it that my son since he was born (1999) has had to listen to it while strapped in his car seat and now blows my mind with his metal guitar abilities.
More people need to give metal a chance, maybe not Meshuggah to begin with but try some Gojira or Lamb of God
So many dedicated Metal fans out there requesting tunes Clayton.
I'm getting very used to it to my shock
Oooh yeah he should react to Chris Adler, he’s great too!
Tomas Haake is already a legend. They've been in this music since the early 90's. Big Fan here!
Yes, Thomas "Hah-Ke" is synonymous with Meshuggah.
Watch his playthrough of "Bleed" next.
The song took him 6 months before he could play it properly.
Great reaction. Thanks for being open minded enough to appreciate this.
Meshuggah can be tough for new listeners.
I first started listening when Destroy Erase Improve came out. I would get headaches listening while trying to understand what I was hearing. It was sooo intense! One of my Favs from that album is Soul Burn....so funky.
It's more "Hawk-eh" if you want the Swedish pronunciation
@@bashiel If i didn't know Meshuggah, i would've easily believed Haake was german.
The guitars are just as sick
Fun fact, Meshuggah tracked this album live in the studio. All members played at the same time and kept their best takes.
So cool when you said this inspires you... These guys were sorta the first band to incorporate lots of poly rhythms
Incredible musicianship from Meshuggah. There was a part of guitar weird tones coming in and my body eargasmed with instense chill for good 10-15 seconds :D Awesome music
What a great review. You are definitely an opened minded individual. Metal is like a highway, its difficult to adjust when dropped off in the middle of high speed traffic without taking the slow on-ramp first. Meshuggah is a gem and one of a kind. They're one of those bands that actually pull off live performances better than the record. Not to mention, an out of this world lighting show.
Tomas Haake has a totally unique playing style, is a legend in the metal scene and it's always great to see new people exposed to the band. Doing it with a cup of tea in your hand is top class :D If I recall from an interview, the left hi-hat is mostly played with his foot though I have seen him play it with sticks a few rare times. If you like this, check out Elliot Hoffman and Carbomb. I recommend the tune "Black Blood".
heyy! what a cool hoodie.. I'm from Chile!!! I'm a drummer in various tribute bands!!! VIVA CHILE MIERDA!!!!
JAJAJA
Dude, check out Eloy Casagrande from Sepultura!!!! Specifically Manipulation if Tragedy. Somewhat similarly styles however Eloy utilizes a lot more of tribal beats and rhythms with thrash metal. That kid is a BEAST!!!!
Agreed, Eloy is fantastic!
The face you make at about 7:35 is the standard face for those who are getting all the emotion out of this music. The music is angry, aggressive and beautiful all at the same time.
Meshuggah is a hard listen, not because they're bad, they are definitely not. They're a great band and their compositions are really out there, but it's not something you can expect anyone to like on their first few listens. Their music is so sharp, brutal and in your face that it takes time for their compositional patterns to appear in your head as you listen.
You're so right. I was overwhelmed when I heard Meshuggah in the early 2000s. I was intrigued at first and thought wow, this is Metal on a whole other level. Took me a little bit but after a few listens, I was hooked. 20 years later I'm still in awe of their awesomeness.
@@rubaidaallen2764 Same here. I heard bleed and thought it was ok and then didn't listen to them for years. But then I heard clockworks and something clicked. Now their best song is all their songs. I find peace in the comfort of their music.
I can honestly say, since digging more deeply into Meshuggah, I’ve become more close minded with other music because they are on such an insane level, and so atypical, it makes other decent metal bands just sound basic.
I love them but even after listening to them for years now I still have to take them in doses. It's intense trying to listen closely take it all in, like a musical workout session.
I love how much Meshuggah makes people smile when it clicks. No pun intended for you drummers!
gotta smile!
He used to have a beginner drumclass on swedish public tv. It got pretty hard pretty pretty fast.
HAHAHA I bet!
tänker du på morgan ågren?
One of the best Extreme groove Metal songs of all time IMO. I saw these guys with go on before Ministry at the Warfield back in the day I’ve been a fan ever since they are siiiiiick!
even if you don't react to this, you should watch it.. 66Samus - "Hear Me" (Devin Townsend drums).
@Richard Harrold You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this topic but are you referring to the "real world" drum sounding worse from the sampled recorded version? Like the sonic separation of kick and snare? If so doesn't this have alot to do with actual "room" you are playing in such as a hall or venue of some type? I'm very uneducated on the pros and cons of sampling kits, as this video in particular sounded extremely full and well rounded.
@Richard Harrold So on the album "Empath" Devin hired a couple drummers, one being 66Samus and the other being Anup Sastry. I just watched the "Hear Me" playthrough, then went and watched the Anup Sastry playthrough of "Singularity" on the same album and Sastry's kit does indeed sound snappier and crisper. After you pointed out the sampling, I did noticed the drums having a sort of flatter, (for lack of a better term) even sound. As a casual observer I didn't pick up on that at all. I just presumed that "Hear Me' was in fact recorded in a more muted tone to set them into the background a little more as to not over power the music. I hope I made a little sense there.
@Richard Harrold agreed. However, he's addressed the use of samples as a necessity - he simply doesn't have the time to edit his drums every time, and he does online lessons on another kit which uses most of the mics he has. It's one thing to make time for editing if the mics are placed well from the beginning, but having to move them between kits that much is just too much time.
Someone forgot Morgan agren... just saying
Just subscribed. I love watching these reaction videos you do. The fact you're a drum teacher, so are clearly proficient and playing at a high level, but still have no ego and show your appreciation openly with some of these other drummers is excellent to see. Watching you getting inspired and keen to try new things is really refreshing. I might be in the minority but I love it when you stop the videos to talk about what you're watching. Keep up the good work.
React to Tomas Haake's
"The Demon's Name is Surveillance"
"Bleed"
Too good. He is also the lyricist of the band.
Johann Rajan Wut??
Yeah. You heard me right.
@@johannrajan6357 I mean, he writes most of the songs, but is not the singer (that's a guy called Jens Kidman) , but that's prob what you meant?
Or Born in Dissonance.
Also, that's the English language for ya. Singer is used for the person that sings. Lyricist is someone who writes or composes the lyrics of the song. Technically, he was correct in his statement
I stand corrected. I thought you were saying he was the singer. My apologies.
Back in 2012 I played at soundwave festival and got to watch Meshuggah from the side of the stage and they were the quietest onstage band I've ever heard. Tomas was incredible to watch and made it all look so easy. I don't think he even broke a sweat. Vinnie Paul on the other hand was incredibly loud and was pounding the hell out of his drums. He was sweating before they'd finished their first song.
Edit: forgot to say, Tomas seemed like a really cool, down to earth guy. I didn't even know he was the drummer for Meshuggah when I first saw him setting up/adjusting his kit because I'd only ever listened to them. He even said hi to me first. I was playing in a pop punk band that day so I didn't look like a typical Meshuggah fan and he was totally cool, not a single pretentious bone in his body.
Check out Morgan Ågren. He played with Zappa. That says it all.
Mats/Morgan band. Strange, fun and complicated music. Just incredible.
Special defects with Fredrik Thordendal and Morgan Ågren live.
He's played with Magma on their latest album Zess. A really interesting fast shuffle that drives most of the long piece.
Mats & Morgan Band is where it’s at
It is literally a crime, that there are no reactions to Mats & Morgan band.
ONLY two channels have reacted to "Sol Niger within" With Fredrik and Morgan, which just.. makes me sad 😕 Should be on every drum channel.
This album was recorded live in one take! This is the retail video of this song you are seeing of him playing it!!!
I highly recommend checking out the drummer for Car Bomb. He does essentially the exact opposite thing from Tomas. Tomas plays over the bar line phrases while maintaining 4/4. Elliot Hoffman and Car Bomb actually practice extensively by watching each other because they use extremely odd phrases and time signatures without a steady tempo throughout the song. The band has said they have to watch each other and learn how to feel the quick note rate changes and time signature changes. Definitely check it out
I would also reccomend Frontierer..
Yeah car bomb are probably my fave band at the mo. Superb
"Us...civilians, are used to." Haha! Loved your video! Pravus or Straws Pulled At Random are great Meshuggah follow ups even though everyone will suggest, Bleed.
They gig at that intensity, pretty much non stop, for 3 hours a night, every night while on tour. Probably one of the most brutal live bands I have ever witnessed.
That is insanity Gerard
I love people first time listening to Meshuggah!!!!!!
That moment when you realize music will forever be different!!!!!
Super cool channel you are running here Andrew. A big thumbs up from Denmark.
If you are interested in other "above the average" drummers, here is a little list that you might like:
Morgan Aagren (Swedish "fusion-prog-jazz-rock drummer" - extremely skilled. The obvious one would probably be "Sol Niger Within" where he is playing metal. That one is crazy.)
Bobby Jarzombek ("Peppered Cancer" would be a good choice)
Gavin Harrison ("Threatening War" an easy listening little melodi)
Marco Minnemann (tons of good videos with him out there)
Gene Hoglan ("Skeksis" from his time in Strapping Young Lad)
Matt Halpern and Matt Garska (Super and technically prolificient groovy metal drummers)
Hi, I just want to say that I love your fuking hoodie.... greetings from Chile 🇨🇱
Holy crap.
You're the first english speaking UA-camr I've ever heard pronounce a double a correctly!
Yesssss!
I guess I've unknowingly been in rare company then.
The guy from loudwire who interviewed him for "fact or fiction" also got it right, well Tomas said so after he introduced him... ;)
I was so focused on the music and watching Tomas, that just in minute 4 I noticed Chile's hoodie !!!! 🤘🤘🤘 I saw Meshuggah here 🇨🇱 and I definitely LOVE THOSE GUYS !!!!
check out the bleed drum cam next! Its awesome.
Already on it my Man!
Also worth bearing in mind that bleed is normally the last song on a 90ish minute set... Madness.
Finally! that video blew my mind. Great :)
Yeah man. Tomás is insane!
I tried to learn Clockworks on my drumkit once. I broke both legs and my left arm snapped clean off by the shoulder. True story.
🤣🤣
"Clockworks" is a very apt name. These polyrhythms are more in time than an atomic swiss watch
Nostrum from the same album is also crazy!
The band are both note and beat perfect every time they play, its insane how tight they are at all times considering the rythm and changes.
The vocals are mind-blowing 🖤
Again, your reactions are awesome! You've got a new sub here. I like that you're not a metal person but you can absolutely appreciate and love what he's doing - I wish more people were as open minded as you are. And I can't believe you've had Jamie from Ulcerate on twice! That man is amazing as well. And you're right - the vocals are the barrier, absolutely. I tend to look at them as just another instrument as opposed to as in pop/rap/country when it's actually the voice you're focusing on. Keep doing what you're doing, friend!
Thanks Justin.
Yes Jamie is awesome. Hope to have him on the podcast again!
The coolest thing about their music is, if you follow his right, most of it can be counted in 4/4.
Sure, the basic line is mostly 4/4. But on top of that there is different patterns like 13. Plus the bass drum can be in it's own something like 21 or 25 counts. So different brain for every limb is close to the truth!
Gotta love a polyrhythm!
And if you listen to Tesseract, all of their music IS in 4/4 which is pretty cool too!
@@TheWainaJarvelayou must check yogev gabay., he explains everything, science, my friend
@@daviddevilliers2828 Yes, been following Yogev for a while. Also did some 8 years of private lessons from a drummer who has different brains for every limb. And that's an understatement. He can change the paired limbs during the play and still have two time signatures at the same time. Like 5/4 and 13/12 and then change what limbs do them. Feet to hand and left to right. I don't know if anyone else in the world can do that?
HEY! GREETINGS FROM CHILE!!! AND A MESHUGGAH FAN
Hola! Que te vayas bien
imagine your first impression of Meshuggah being Clockworks... I'm actually jealous!
Yup it's great!
The basic pattern in the hands in the verses is a simple 4:3 polyrhythm. The challenge is lining up those triples with the 4 beats in the hands and also keeping up with the meter changes. I made a cover for Do Not Look Back of Meshuggah years ago (it's in another channel) and the only way I managed to do it was by learning and reading a transcription of the track. The most difficult thing is keeping up with the accents and meter changes.
This is debatably their best song.
Love it
You can be surprised on the grooves this band makes. Been in my top 5 favorite bands for years
Great!
What should I do next!?
ELOY CASAGRANDE (Sepultura) - Pentagram (drum cam)
A completely absurd drummer
@@davidviteris do Igor.
Gojira....
Benny Greb! All of his material is absolutely insane.
@@cameronmcmahon4002 I had Benny on my podcast last month!
He's a great guy and superb drummer.
andrewrooneydrums.com/nz-drummer-podcast-ep-64-benny-greb/
"Just kidding, I don't have LinkedIn."
You got me good 😆
Just when you think you know drumming you see Thomas and you feel like someone from the Victorian times who’s been handed a smartphone.
Hey Andrew how´s it goin!! One of my favorites contemporary drummers, i was in all their concerts in Chile and the sound is amazing!! i told you man, what a nice sweatshirt haha, greeting from Chile po!!
Danny Carey, Brann Dailor and Tomas Haake. 'Nuff said.
The holy trinity
But but but, what about Lars Ulrich? =D
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you're funny. Seriously though Lars isn't that awful. I've seen the mighty Metallica live a few times and I have to say he's alright. He's no where near as F'N AWESOME as the holy trinity, but he's alright in my book.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums
Yup yup 🤘🤘
@@GAIS414 ..... and AND don´t forget Kai Hahto or Gee Anzalone
Dan Presland from Ne Obliviscaris, Alex Bent from Trivium, Mario Duplantier from Gojira, Josean Orta from Fit For An Autopsy, Chris Turner from Oceans Ate Alaska and Andrew Baird from Fallujah are a real treat as well, in my opinion. I'd love to see you check out any of those drummers in the future!
This is what algebraic equations sounds like haha!
Tomas Haake (you're close on his last name, put a longer E sound at the end) has an interesting process. He gets sent the songs from one of the guitarists, then spends a few days to weeks programming on a drum machine. He then, after perfecting the program, spends a few weeks on the kit learning what he programmed.
Mario Duplantier . Gojira . "The art of dying"
I'd go with "Backbone" personally.
i saw them alive a few years ago... totally mindblowing ... mastodon was after them, love them to, but gojira was supreme
LucasRza Yeah, I saw Gojira last summer, they were awesome. I saw Mastodon in 2007 and they were insane, Meshuggah also played that same night, but I'd probably enjoy Meshuggah more in an indoors venue.
Was just about to ask if he's ever reacted to Gojira
@@patrickburt2231 Art of Dying is a bigger mindfuck on drums tbh
Love your open mindedness and opinions!
THANK YOU!!!
🇨🇱 hoodie for the win. respect.
The main verse beat is just "snare kick kick" over and over in 16th notes and 16th triplets. It's amazing how fluidly he goes back and forth between the two subdivisions while keeping time with the hihat or other cymbal.
“just joking i don’t have linked in” 😆
BAHAHAHA
Sir, I am a new subscriber. I am watching your videos. They are great. 🙏
Meshuggah - Bleed
And then play it for us...
at least the main 4/4 drum bass pattern
I'm a guitarist that started on piano and then drums. I have played music for over 35 years and I primarily play progressive death metal on guitar nowadays. I typically play for at least an hour a day.
I can play bleed on guitar for about 45 secs before I lose it. That's how ridiculous that song is.
The sheer indurance is mind boggling.
Please do "Reptile" by Periphery, you won't regret it! Periphery is, in my opinion a perfect step coming from Meshuggah and Tool. Their music is similar to both bands in ways and they have an excellent blend of harsh and clean vocals with incredible drumming.
Nice Djent, thanks... Not into clean vocals, but other parts are pretty...
This songs drum part is really cool because it’s essentially LH, RF, LF over and over. It gets weird because he takes that three note pattern and plays it as 16th notes which is a 3 over 4 idea but then also plays that pattern as 16th note triplets. He uses those two note rates to follow the guitar part which ends up making longer over the bar line phrases that become very difficult to memorize especially when his right hand is staying in 4/4 and keeping time as quarter notes or 8th notes. Tomas is a complete innovator and the way he approaches rhythm is next level
React to dan presland “and plague flowers the kaleidoscope”
This is a great reccomendation
Oh god yes
I like :) unlike many others you do not try to "understand" it immediately even though you probably do, you dont try to explain it in technical terms but rather enjoy the music and enjoy the craft. :)
BLEED Reaction!
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I’ve seen them live a few times over the years (the drummer and rhythm guitarist are from my hometown, so also at small venues back in the 90’s, and festivals in later years). You walk out of there exhausted and exhilarated - it’s like being brutally attacked (musically) for an hour straight, it just doesn’t let up, but in the best way! See them live if you get the chance!
Love Messhuggah, if you want to check out more from them, i suggest : Demiurge - I Am Colossus - Bleed