Sinners and dinner: Dealing with same-sex attraction issues in the church! CHECK THIS OUT!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Should Christians try and change if they are same-sex attracted? How are Christians supposed to respond to laws supporting same-sex marriage and forcing Christians to participate in ceremonies against their will? Frank and Tim Stratton respond briefly to issues that require a longer conversation. Dr. Turek has written much more on this issue in 𝑪𝒐𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒄𝒕, 𝑵𝒐𝒕 𝑷𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝑪𝒐𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒄𝒕: impactapologet...
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I'm a 18 yrs boy,I have decided to follow Christ with all my heart, that's why I stopped watching anything pertaining to gay/porns since I was 16,,
I can proudly say that I'm an ex-gay, not because I feel straight, but because Lord JESUS CHRIST has redeemed me, yes, I must be honest that the gay thoughts are still coming,but I believe those are just temptations from satan.
Please pray for me through this spiritual battle. ❤️❤️ I know JESUS is for me and with me. Thank you
The temptations in your mind are the words of the enemy, they are not your thoughts. It's just the enemy using the word "I" instead of "you" "I like those things." "I am attracted to this." At least that's what helped me.
Ex-gay doesn't exist. You still have gay thoughts because you're still gay; why can't you just accept that? I feel so sorry for you that you've felt as if you've have to "change" yourself just to suit God that, believe it or not, didn't have a problem with you to begin with.
I pray God gives you your answers. I tempted to say stuff, but I don't think I'm qualified to give you the answers. Check out Sam Alberry (the guy that Frank Turek mentioned from RZIM).
I'll definitely add you to the prayer list. 🙏
@@mr.person4050 God speaks against all immorality and humans have all done immoral things making us immoral beings so yes we are to change from unrighteousness to righteousness which can only be done through Christ.
@@mr.person4050
I left islam and became agnostic/atheist then last year, i fall in love with jesus christ and became christian but i still never understood why would god make homosexuality count as something bad.
i had a friend who is gay and i asked him long time ago about it and he said that he cant get attracted to girls and that he had feelings towards other boys since he was young.
that made me look at it in a different way although back then i was still a muslim and islam treats homosexuals with death penalty while christianty does not teach that as far as i know but still i never could understand why would homosexuality count as a sin, as if it is something terrible and evil like murder or rape or deception ...
The fact that hundreds of all these atheists come to ask questions from this one man to me shows that Jesus is truly the way. I mean, have y’all ever seen this many Christians come to atheists with all these questions and attempts to debunk atheism? I’ve never seen it 🤣 GOD IS GOOD
Whether they come out believing or not, I'm still happy for them.
They genuinely are concerned and want to know more and gain wisdom, advise and knowledge.
Or if it's none of those, I'm happy that they're there, either way.
Whether they believe or not, that's God's will, not ours.
God bless them and God bless you.
Exactly if you don't believe in something leave it at that with no question. Yet they are there to get the truth that may change their thought of mind.
Hmmmmmm..... Very good point.
That is interesting, The Holy Spirit has revealed this to you.
Yes, the difference between followers of Christ and atheists are followers of Christ are confident of their faith, whereas atheists are unsure so they try to refute Christianity to feel more secure in their faith.
I like that she had a genuine question about homosexuality💯 When most people bring up homosexuality and the church, they are usually closed-minded and just trying to hate on Christianity.
Amen to that 👍
Yes, exactly. There is a number of other sins which the Bible , they just want to make Christian's look bad.
Amen
Agreed. That was probably an understatement.
God Bless! ✌🥰✝️
She seemed pretty close minded to me. Not open to the fact that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. Closed off to anything that the Bible doesn't agree with.
“ This is not a soundbite answer; this is a conversation.“ What a great answer! We must reach people on an individual basis.
It's not about gay to straight, it's about lost to saved!
I would also advise anyone suffering through habitual sin (of any kind) is to FAST and PRAY!! We all need deliverance! Get on your face before God and fast and pray--and Jesus will set you free! The closer you to are to God the farther you are from sin. I'd rather be at war with my sin than a slave to it! Keep fighting the good fight!
Can't Yahweh and Yeshua do something to stop same sex attraction?
@@JamesRichardWiley yes, if you seek Him and repent and are born again God will breathe within you a new heart. God will help them overcome it. If they let him. It's a battle though. It will never be easy. Like any sin anyone commits. But God will help us
Encouraged by this. Thank you.
@Jonathan Hughes We KNOW Yahuah.
if only homophobics would ask to be dilivered
Lets remember that homosexuality is not any more sinful than adultery/fornication. Everyone should be allowed in church if they're struggling with this. If they are saying its not a sin though (or that they can sin and don't have to repent) then that's an issue. If I had children I would never excommunicate them either. Everyone needs their family unit and if family excommunicates them then they will only go deeper into sin. Keep praying, and keep believing for the breakthrough.
“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Leviticus Chapter 20 verse 13
Pity GODS laws weren’t our country’s laws
@@germanicus1475 remember that in that time, they didn't have jails nor police. Everything was self governed by the people, and it ultimately came down to the parents decision for many punishments
Can you tell me why homosexuality was not compared to being heterosexual? Why do you equate homosexuality to adultery if one is a state of emotion and the other is an action.
jociah yeah I know. I just feel the world would be better off if we still had laws like this
@@hearthventer9858 did youtube delete my reply ? Did you get my reply before this one
This pastor is awesome. He speaks the truth and is not afraid to do so.
Robert lives in his own reality just like the rest of us.
The fact of the matter is that by God's design a man should only be with a woman.
The best answer I've ever heard to this question is given by Jackie Hill Perry. A female pastor who began a lesbian but is now married to a man and still deals with that temptation but her devotion to christ helped her figure out how to work through it. Her story is something else. She's an amazing pastor no matter what she's talking about.
A female pastor? What!!!!!
I really really like Turek so humble & answers questions in the most logical way possible
The thing that people criticize him for is that he sounds aggressive and arrogant.
That's just how he talks, my dad actually talks like him.
He's not angry or being aggressive, he's just loud.
And my dad is one of the nicest men I know.
@@Coffeehouse_Latte Turek aggressive? There’s a UA-camr apologist who I do not know what you’d say about let me see if I can find him
There were once two evangelist on my college campus and I didn't know how to feel about them. Were they preaching love or were they faking it. I am christian and struggle with same sex attraction. I wanted to test them and see if their hearts where in the right place. I told one of them that I was gay and would like to talk about what the Bible says about it. He pulled out a pen and paper and was prepared to make lunch arrangements. I knew that this person was genuinely out there to form relationships and talk to people about the Gospel. If your goal is only to convert people and not for relationships then your missing something. If a christian won't sit and eat with an unbeliever then that's an issue. We are called to go and tell everyone about Jesus. Even Jesus sat and ate with unbelievers.
Amen!
Jesus did discipleship. In Matthew 28: 19 to go and make disciples of people.
False teachers, flee from these types. You must be born again. When you are you will receive A NEW heart and a new Spirit. You will be transformed by the RENEWING of your mind. A new creature.
I like how he made it clear that the congregation is to work together to bring people into a holyness.
And through that the changes will take place with Christ's help.
but homophobics refuse to change
I also liked how he pointed that out. So many people think that Christianity can be a solo thing. We are meant to live in community with one another and there are so many parts of scripture that explain how we each have gifts but they are meant to be used as a whole. We are but single parts of a body and each is utterly important to the other and we're not meant to be solo Christians. And it isn't talked about enough and so I also like that he talked about that
@@TinkerBell-bt6vu so I can't have a personal relationship with Jesus in your view....sorry...I do. Tough. I bet you wish you had one now.
@@pastorbri So I'm guessing you just threw "pastor" on your screen name for giggles. We all need prayer and redemption; we all need a personal relationship with Christ; and we all benefit from the community of the body, which is the church.
@@pastorbri oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were a progressive "pastor". I'll pray that you will realize the truth, and turn away from the false teachings that you are wrapping yourself in.
Excellent answers from the both of you. I am guilty of using Romans 1 and 1 Corinthians 6 when dealing with atheists who claim we Christians hate homosexuals because we don’t believe in their lifestyle. I will continue to tell them and anyone else who asks me about homosexuality that we neither hate nor reject homosexuals but we love them. If people want to cast judgment on me I cannot stop that, but I rest in knowing that God knows my heart and my answer is acceptable to Him even if it’s not acceptable to others.
Great, I love Romans.
I get a lot of stuff about me being gay and told 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and they leave out verse 11. My boyfriend just laughs at them. I don't get christians sometimes or atheists when it comes to gays. Ty sir..
This was a great video, I agree with what you said Dr. Turek. I have struggled with what I should do or say to someone who has a same-day attraction and this helped. I want them to live a holy life, a life pleasing before the eyes of God along with myself so thank you. Now I know what to say when the time comes.
When you're saved and born again you stop living for the flesh and live for God.
Nah. You just become a walking zombie parroting bible verses.
If that's true, why do you still have to care for your flesh so that you stay alive?
@@itsJPhere flesh meaning you not concerned with sex, masturbation, fornication if your single, sinful acts etc. of course your still bathing and such and eating drinking what ever. This is more for being set free from the grip of sin from Satan.
@@onfireforJESUS75 Doesn't caring for yourself also mean you should take care your sexual needs as well, should you really live in celibacy if you're single or homosexual and not even masturbate, isn't that part of the basic needs we all have?
Is that guranteed?
It isn't.
You SHOULD doesnt meant you wil
i love the clear cut answer Frank unleashes. Just plain simple.
heres another, homophobia is a sin
@@pastorbri chapter and verse for where it says that please
@@TinkerBell-bt6vu LOL Im still waiting for chapter and verse where it says hate and discrimination (which is what homophobia is) are good holy things.....waiting
I never had same sex attraction, but my sexuality before Christ was what most in today's society consider normal and healthy, but in actuality was kinda dark and perverted.. Once I accepted Christ thru Faith, Trust and Authority.. My sexuality did change, and it did so very QUICKLY without even trying.. I use to on occasion look at pornography, what use to be pleasurable before Christ QUICKLY became disgusting, repulsive and even depressing.. I started to understand almost by pure instinct that sex was not an animal urge or just biology, but a gift and a tool used to bond to your mate..
I know nothing of same sex attraction, gender dysphoria or pedophilia (rot in hell netflix).. But I do know how quickly the spirit and authority of Christ and God can change ones sexuality.. And how in my opinion most sin is carried out thru sexuality..
MGTOW Monk Amen to that!
@Nick Gagnon Yes you can; who told you this?
Nick Gagnon : God can change human traits. I know because he changed me.
Yes my guy
yet homophobics don't change
Everyday as believers we're all called to deny ourselves and take up our cross. It's difficult but it's our calling and the Lord does not leave us to do these things in our own strength
Homosexuality is not a lifestyle, not about sex, not given by any satan. Homosexuality is a natural healthy born orientation with an evolutionary meaning. This man-made religion with their false man-made morals will disappear one day with those who believe in it.
Homosexuals then will still go on existing.
I wish to every homosexual, that he/she finds a loving partner , marries and raises kinds in responsibility.
As a Deist I send you a lot human love :)
The concept of sin and salvation is both simple and difficult.
Its simple if you think about it, its difficult if you over think it.
I don't like the word sin, and I've nothing to suggest there is much weight behind the word salvation.
@@conordelaney76 the Bible uses the word sun over and over again. Churches have stopped preaching about sin and how it is the entire reason we were separated from God and the reason we need a Savior. But we are ALL sinners and that is why only Jesus could save us - the sinless Lamb of God. You might not like it because it makes you uncomfortable but we MUST acknowledge sin and use the word that God uses for it. Sin is deadly serious and if God calls it sin so must we. Sin means to transgress against God or transgress against divine law. There is no other English word that captures the sentiment. But just know we are all sinners and have all fallen short and if you repent and place your trust in Jesus He will save you from your sin.
@@TinkerBell-bt6vu It doesn't make me uncomfortable. The truth is I disagree with the premise. The idea that we are born sinful is both non-sensical (because we haven't engaged in life yet) and unnecessary. God sacrificing his son for sins that haven't been committed yet is a horrendous idea.
People make mistakes, such is the nature of humanity. This doesn't mean its sinful.
Thankfully there is zero evidence for any of this.
It's like is water wet? It's difficultly simple.
@@conordelaney76
Yep! It is ridiculous and repulsive.
That’s why Jesus said, “ Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again." You see we are all born of flesh, which the flesh is sinful and does not know God. We all have to be born again of water and of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is what will make you a new creation. (Ezekiel 36:26) You are no longer your old self but made a new child of God in Jesus.
I’m glad I don’t have that problem
But others do sadly. We all have different problems and situations to overcome in this life
@Nehesa Setiawan keep your spirit and keep being strong my friend!
@Rihanna Bryan
Amen.
Ephesians 6:18
I repented from a gay lifestyle some 35 yrs ago.....born again in Jésus Christ.....it was not easy still isnt....but i have never regretted 1 day.....living celibate chaste life is very hard ....i have fallen when younger but Holy Spirit always brought me back.....i praise God for having convinced me that homosexuality is a sin....no one on Earth could have done this except God by His love & mercy.....
God used me to bring others to Christ .....my joy is serving the Lord
& Yes many christians do not understand my battles that is difficult ....i pray that many LGBTQ will come to Christ in repentance & experience the love peace joy that He gives....AMEN
AMEN BROTHER TEACH 🔥
You know that Amen means .If somebody say to you Have a good day! Then you can say Amen.Meaning (may that happens)
My brother was 1AO during the Vietnam war, he served, but did not carry a weapon.
Good preaching .
All Christians must fight against the sin that squats inside them, which flavour of sin one must fight against is unimportant.
And if you have opposite sex attraction - the same rules apply. You don't entertain certain ideas, you don't fantasies, you don't look at porn, you don't put yourself in situations where the temptation likely to arise. You live out your faith consistently with the Scriptures - regardless of who you are attracted to. It is the difference between choosing the self and the Savior.
Adam was made perfect and because of his sin the whole world is bound by sin, so if you have sinful desire these are not from God nor where the original man created to be sinful
@just repelsteeltje
Inbreed, is your greatest concern?
Do you know what is the biggest problem with inbreeding?
@@jessebryant9233
Are you replying to me or repelsteeltje?
@@hennie3663
My bad! Thanks for asking...
@just repelsteeltje
And by "happiness" I'm sure you mean "desire"... That's not what our founders meant by the term. They meant "virtue", and sexual perversions are not virtuous, no matter who engages in them - be they gay or straight.
As for your claim regarding "God's own incompetence"... What do you mean by that? What's your argument/claim here?
As for your "inbred" snark... We're all related bud. But it is because of sin (corruption/harmful mutations) that you can't marry too close to home. While calling same-sex partnerships "marriage" (which used to be about biology; coitus) is not rational. You are equating your personal desires which are inherently dangerous and serve no greater purpose than 'self' with biological realities that are essential to the survival of the human race and that benefits all of us. Your personal feelings and preferences don't trump the biological and social realities.
Society expects us to override our feelings and do the moral thing in almost every other area. If someone makes a person so angry they want to kill them, society says your feelings don’t matter, you are supposed to squash that feeling and be moral. Why they make an exception for same-sex attraction and heterosexual fornication is the real question.
Uh yeah… because you murdering someone is killing them. Gay people aren’t harming anyone they just try to live their lives
@@samhenry4553 1. To suggest that all people of any group are all behaving exactly the same way is real bigotry. 2. Those homosexuals who ARE just going about their lives and not harming anyone are not even part of the subject of this video. My comment was about the morals discussed in the video. For some reason some people seem to think that they can pick and choose what beliefs they subscribe to and force others to accept it. 3. The real issue is that some activists, (not all homosexuals,) trying to force others to violate their beliefs. 4. There are religions that want to force homosexuals to conform to their beliefs and ideals. This is wrong. Ironically, these activists do not see the hypocrisy of using the same tactics. 5. If this was really about being able to have a nice wedding they wouldn't want to try to force someone to be part of it. If I thought someone just didn't like me personally I would deliberately exclude them from my wedding day. I would never think of trying to force them to be part of it. I wouldn't want them to have my business, let alone be in a position to wreck things. I would go somewhere else to get my cake, flowers and ceremony. 6. You never see these "activists" confront what is undeniably wrong, such those that execute homosexuals who "just try to live their lives", such as Islam. They only try to target those that are just trying to get along in their lives and faith but aren't a real threat.
They are harming themselves, literally 80% of HIV positive are from MSM (men who sleep with men) just check any AIDs organization
Another example I could mention is gluttony, your not harming anybody but is still a sim
The question is wrong. Every person who enters the Church is a sinner and either deals with or represses their thoughts or actions of sin. If an adulterer entered, would we be asking the same question? The thief? etc. Most sinner's sins are hidden and we wouldn't even know by just looking or sitting with them, so why would we mock or exclude homosexuals who willingly come to the Church to learn and love Jesus Christ? He will deal with their hearts and we should welcome and love every person who seeks Him.
This video is a huge eye opener. It deals with exactly your comment and i never thought of it this way. Its true that we tend to think that "oh homosexuals shouldn't go to heaven" but in reality NONE of us should! That is exactly why we need the grace of God and need to accept Jesus into our lives as saviour
Sinners who become believers are a new creation in Christ with their personal fellowship with God this means a new lifestyle. What should we do as believers take up our cross and follow Jesus what we’re called to do. Jesus is our High Priest not man or government, if government force us to live a sinful lifestyle we become martyrs for our belief and love for God like Jesus and the Saints in the Bible.
Romans 10:9
1 John 1:8-10
@Fools hate knowledge
Amen, name change-represent mercy not hate or a troll.
@Geo Logist
Yes
@Geo Logist every single person that has gone to hell God did not want them there ... But I dont think that has anything to do with "power", and has everything to do with ones own personal choices.
@Geo Logist
When a person places their faith-trust in Christ, God promises their salvation. Part of that trust is not only eternal life but daily help being empowered by Christ to take up our cross. When people live a sinful lifestyle with no remorse to God they are demonstrating they are not saved and haven’t place their faith in Christ. Only God knows who is real and who are the perpetrators, we only know them by their fruit-the way they leave their life.💞
@Geo Logist also God already knows who is coming to heaven ... Via the book of life
Thanks for this. I’ve just had a bad day and I’m facing a really tough situation and I feel so down and depressed because there’s no easy solution.
I hope you may find strength in God God bless
So much truth in everything you said
but homophobia is a lie
I am a 37 year old homosexual male that has a boyfriend and we get a lot of stuff because we do not support certain things in lgbtq+, gay marriage or transgenderism. We do not have sex and are celibate. Every scripture is about acting upon and behavior that is against God not attraction. I hope everyone understands this. I love you! Feel free to ask a question if you want :)
How does that work? I'm curious.
@@ewuraamaetruwaasam7084 we don't have sex. We don't support the movement. What do u want to know
The impulse or urge isn't the sin. It's the act of giving in to the sin nature that is sinful. I am attracted to women I'm not married to. That doesn't make it okay for me to sleep with them. Some people have violent tendencies. That doesn't make it okay for them to beat up people who anger them. Kleptomaniacs aren't justified in stealing, etc. etc.
But if two gay people are single and fall in love and want to be together, what could possibly make it wrong?
@Firefly You think being in love with someone is the same as killing or robbing? That makes no sense.
I think I should put my opinions before your opinions, why shouldn't I? Can you demonstrate that your god is more than an opinion?
@Firefly He's obviously a troll. Pearls before Swine.
@Firefly but same sex marriage is legal does that make it ok?
@Firefly If you can't demonstrate that your God is actually real beyond the Bible stories, why should anyone care about what your God supposedly instructs? How did you come to the conclusion that you yourself should care about the instructions in the first place, how did you make sure they're not bad instructions?
Nothing to deal with. Love who you 💘. The church!? What about it?😒
Sam Alberry is such a great teacher 🔥. Such an inspiration.
They are giving him a great example for lgbtq christians.
a very respectable young lady
Making good evil and evil good. Repent and believe the gospel of Christ. God is not pleased that any one should perish. My people perish for the lack of knowledge fools despise wisdom and instruction today is the day of salvation
@Mary Wisniewski can you show your god to exist?
@@alanbaraka9800 First of all, show me that you exist.
@@loveyourneighborandenemy967 I've heard that one many times before. I list the ways I can validate I exist such as my birth certificate, face time call, meeting in person, my credit card history, school records, ect. You then say how do you know those things are accurate? Then I say I can test as many times as necessary the things I mentioned to show if they are accurate.
“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Leviticus Chapter 20 verse 13
Pity GODS laws aren’t our country’s laws
"Making good evil and evil good."
Sounds like the Bible. Bible (both testaments) condone slavery.
What a great message. I’m glad that I found you on UA-cam. You. Have a wonderful ministry and you know how to answer these questions that these people do not understand. Thank you so much amen.
A gay person who wants to follow Jesus should find an LGBTQ-affirming church.
A church that supports homosexuality is a fake church
@@westham5370 every church is a fake church
we used to say black folk should find a black supporting church, HOW AWFUL...ALL CHURCHS SHOULD AFFIRM LOVE
It’s near impossible for man alone to win the fight against sin which is in fact your own fallen nature!! You need the Holy Spirit in order to have real power against the desires of the flesh!! You may have righteous tendencies and wishes, but ultimately it will get overwhelmingly hard to continue the battle by yourself without the power of the Holy Spirit which is sent by God himself to comfort you!!
wow 1 hr ago im early 😌but honestly i love this guy his debates are awesome
Frank believes an invisible man with three personalities is hiding in his magic kingdom in the sky above the Sinai Peninsula
and he is watching and taking notes on everything you think say and do.
What can I say?
James Richard Wiley and most scientists believe in the multiverse with less proof and mathematically and scientifically less probably then an intelligent creator
God loves you and his sufficient enough for you come to the truth or come of sin darkness's
if only homophobics knew this
Forgive your mother for you resenting her so God can forgive you and return you to your original nature as a Man, a son of God, instead of an effeminate male.
You become like that which you resent but you overcome by forgiving.
Stand up and speak the truth but don't resent.
whats wrong with effeminate men if thats how God made them? Many straight men are effeminate.
@@pastorbri
the fact that you have to add the descriptive stipulation that they are a feminine proves that it's not the norm. the norm is the majority and I would say the majority safely represents God's intended plans.
you're saying God wouldn't want a masculine male?
wrong. God doesn't make a feminine man God doesn't make murderers.
crappy parents and bad societal situations create these things.
if you are a pastor you should realize that though sin comes naturally to us it is not good for us.
and that all self-improvement is redirecting and rebuilding the self.
so how can you say that God makes man effeminate when he doesn't,
and that God would want them to remain flawed when he doesn't?
hang up your pastoral position.
you are not qualified for it.
@@VengefulPolititron the norm is the majority? So as chinese as the majority and the right handed are too, anyone whoes a left handed non chinese person is not normal, is that what ya saying?????? I wonder if satan is who u trust in the most now as satan loves us to make lies up to hate one another with.....if you were a christian, YOU should realize that though sin comes naturally to us it is not good for us.
and that all self-improvement is redirecting and rebuilding the self.
so how can you say that God can't make man effeminate when he does, he makes us all so different and special in every way, But he doesn't make homophobics and bigots, we choose this hate for our own.....
and that God would want them to remain flawed with hate when he doesn't?
hang up your fake christian position.
you are not qualified for it.
As an athiest I think you can refuse non-essential service if you want to based on beliefs. You also have to expect to be discriminated against if you're choosing to discriminate yourself.
There is no reason outside of "God said so" to condemn homosexuality. Im not homosexual myself and spent a long time as a Christian, this one never made sense.
@lovelover I think you may have missed my point and thats fair because I didn't spell it out clearly.
In a majority if cases in which God condemns an action, there are reasons we can derive even outside scripture for them being a negative action. Things like promiscuity can have negative effects, heavy alcohol use, etc. There are reasons that would make me say "ah, this is why God told us not to do this". There is none of that for homosexuality. There is nothing that can justify a stance against it other than God said so. Thats what I meant.
Keep in mind I said you should be able to refuse that service so long as its non-essential. For example I think a doctor in the ER would still be liable to care for a car accident victim even if they were homosexual. Something they agree to with the oath anyways. Something non-essential like baking a cake or taking pictures, sure, refuse service if you wish. Just understand that because you have done this and people do not share your faith, you will get backlash because you are discriminating on what they view as a baseless stance. Im on your side as far as hey can't demand your service, but thats basically it.
@@Bambino762 If a person can believe they are a Christian while actually not being a Christian, how can you say who is or isn't a Christian?
@@Bambino762 Do you mean like Ray Comfort & his banana?
@@Bambino762 Wow....you're easily triggered!
@@boglerun8444 The truth sounds like hate to those who are guilty.
Don’t force me to make that cake!
Yep!😂
@Dead Kenny Go to a different bakery
I guess Turek would also be okay if atheists refused to serve Christians like himself because they find his bigoted views offensive?
They want same sex marriages made by the church legal. but if the church refuse they'll get into all kinds of discrminatory trouble. Its really heartbreakin
@@pazuzil What do you mean by serve? Bigoted? Is every single thing that goes against your views bigoted? If I say that aliens are real and you say that they are not real, are you being a bigot? No.
Thank you.
Jesus preached love and commitment. He was strongly opposed to adultery. Rejecting love isn't being holy. And telling people who they're allowed to love isn't being holy. It's cherry-picking scripture to support personal bigotry. Cruelty in the name of Jesus. Not nice.
It depends on what kind of love you are talking about. We are all supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves. This is called phileo love. Eros love is reserved for husband and wife though.
@@johnsmit5999 Eros is passionate love. It's not gender-specific. You've given a personal, and biased, definition.
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The key point is that this eros romantic love has bounds for proper expression. Other examples being adult/child and human/animal. Neither two men nor two women were designed to express romantic love physically with each other.
@@johnsmit5999 The Greeks celebrated the expression of Eros in male-male relationships. They decided it benefited their society. At the same time, a few days journey to the east, a tribe of Jews decided it was bad for society. Jewish thought > Christian (and Muslim) thought > Roman law > British law/thought > British colonies > you. Your view of what is "proper" is the result of historical events. It's an opinion, not a fact. The love Jesus spoke about transcends culture and gender. Have a look at Corinthians. Modern Christians know what Jesus said. Very few comprehend the all-encompassing love behind the words.
@@hannahc2123 Since you are a Christian, you understand that to become a Christian we must repent and receive the Holy Spirit into our lives, at which point we become a new creation in Christ Jesus. There is probably a biological component to many sins. I consider drinking and drug use. Does this mean we continue to live in sin that grace may abound? Does not that new person in Christ have new desires to walk with God? Scripture says we are in the process of being sanctified and that we abstain from every form of sexual immorality.
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1 Cor 6:9-11 tells us that we cannot continue practicing sin and still inherit heaven. Verse 11 "and that's what some of you were but now you have been washed, sanctified and justified in the name of our Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." At the time of their belief repentance and water baptism they were washed sanctified and justified being added to the Church by God. 12:13.We cannot love Christ and sin at the same time. The mission of the Church is to preach the gospel. And the gospel is not just what Christ did for us but what we must do before God. It requires for us to set aside anything that hinders us to run our race with Christ becoming holy before God. Let's be clear on how Christ's blood saves us and it doesn't save us just because He died and there is absolutely nothing that we must do. This kind of attitude is blasphemy towards scripture, Christ said in John 14:15"if you LOVE me, keep my commandments" so yes we have a role to play in our salvation, it's being faithful to God til death working out our salvation in fear and trembling growing each day in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. God wants and has always wanted obedient people. The only way to have a relationship with God is through obedience in Christ. Heb 5:7-9. Our faith,the gospel, is something we hear believe and obey Rom 1:5,16 6:17,16:26. No matter what sin hinders us before God we can overcome if we truly have faith hope and love in Christ. But PRIDE will lead us to hell, let us choose humbleness. God bless you all
@Aron Gladden yes it does say kingdom however that kingdom is ultimately heaven and eternal life.
@Aron Gladden "unrepented sinners are making it to heaven" now that's your opinion and you are misled. Yes, you must repent in order to go to heaven. The gospel clearly teaches this. You can't have a relationship with God if you don't repent.
@Aron Gladden repentance is part of the gospel. Just as water baptism just as is confession in Christ as the Son of God just as is to believe and it all comes from hearing the word of God, the word of God teaches us the gospel. The gospel is what Christ has done for us at the cross and what we must do in Christ. Christ has left us commandments and we must obey. Luke 13:3,5 talks about needing to repent. With our repentance we are dead in our sins. Repentance is a must without it there is no forgiveness. Luke 24:44-47. You must learn scripture correctly so you are not misled. I praise you for reading it and trying to understand it, it says a lot since you are WILLING to learn God. The gospel which is our faith is something we hear believe and obey. Read the context of Rom 1:16 verse 5. Also 6:17 16:26. The bible is like a puzzle where we try to put it all together to see the whole picture. Our faith and spiritual eyes should be in Christ.
@Aron Gladden 2 Peter 3:9. Like I says you are on the right path in willingly reading and studying scripture. Without repentance there cannot be forgiveness. Read again Luke 13:3,5. 2 Peter 3:9 Acts 17:30. Once again Luke 24:47 repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Christ Himself said it. If you can't understand that pray to God for better guidance.
Aron Gladden You cannot separate true faith from repentance, those are two sides of the same coin. Demons also believe and tremble but they are not saved and won’t see the kingdom of God. With your logic and understanding of faith, demons will also be in heaven. Wrong.
“You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble!” James 2:19
“For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.” James 2:26
For the people who fell for franks funky logic. The reason why photographers and bakers should have to also tend to gay marriages is the same reason why restaurants where not allowed to to discriminate against people based on there skin color.
I agree. As long as the customer respects the business and makes the transaction easy, there should be no reason to refuse them.
Well, I myself have a ton of things I want to do I ought to not act on. The truth is a life to salvation is about denying yourself from most of your desires, to carry your cross and follow Christ.
I've never heard such brainwashed, self-defeating nonsense.
so long as we never act on homophobic feelings
@@pastorbri I believe that men and women who are attracted to the same sex ahould be able to express their love for each other whatever way they choose.
Why does God have a great concern for what people do in their bedrooms while naked?
@@conordelaney76 don’t let the enemy deceive you man. If you have a Bible at home just give an hour of your time to read it but before you read it pray to God to help you understand it. First read the book of John. God bless you. Shalom 🙏
@@ichiban2911 I have a Quran, can I read this instead?
Wait,I'm still confused about frank didn't answer about lgbtq people are not welcome to the church but he only said that everyone is welcome to the church but expect who does claim to be Christian and known sin isn't sin,wait what is even mean when he answered that question.
"Same-gender attraction issues" are only "issues" if you make them "issues". It's fine to be attracted to and have relationships with people of the same gender.
"We're not trying to convert anyone into being ATTRACTED to the opposite sex...just to live a life with the opposite sex..and thus remove all chances of you loving and being loved again".
To all you believers out there, how is that moral????
he didn't say anything about living a life with the opposite sex. he said live a holy life.
not everyone is destined to be married. in fact paul suggests first to be single, devoting your entire lives to Christ. but if you cannot stay single, then marry.
it's the holy word of holy God.
awaeraas how is it moral to put words into Frank’s mouth that he never said? How is it moral to force someone to make your cake or take your wedding photos or you will sue them? How is moral to force homosexuality on anyone and demand they conform or be labeled as a “hater” or a “bigot” or a “homophobe”? If you speak about morals then you need to address these questions and more before you bring a false accusation about something someone never said.
What a great and honestly obvious answer, it’s almost maddening how wild people get on topics like this, keep it simple, love wins!
Homosexuality is a natural form of love.
@@conordelaney76 I agree if by natural your talking about our sin nature. The same nature that leads us into to other sexual immorality, murder, theft, and so on. And the answer to the sin nature is the new nature we receive in Christ. I know the struggle is real.
this is more simple....homophobia is a sin
@@pastorbri Fear is definitely a sin, homophobia isn’t a real thing as far as I’m concerned....
@@nastynateanddaboys soooo when people murder gay people for being gay, thats not a real thing? Because that is what homophobia can do.....do ya think racism is also not a real thing too?
5:52 Frank, you are nullifying the scripture. The statement of 1 Corinthians is to inform us that practicing those sins is a sure sign that you are not going to inherit the kingdom of God. This is people who go beyond the sins of the heart, and live in rebellion to God. The message is clear that anyone who wants to get right with God, must give up these lifestyle sins. When you ignore the main point of that section of scripture in order to combat self-righteousness, you are not rightly handling the word of God and you give an excuse to those who want to live apart from God (in their sin) to be self-deceived.
Hello, I saw your comment, but I am having trouble understanding what you mean. What excuse that Frank is giving them?
@@jedclair5782 Exactly what Zap said.
In addition 1 Corinthians addresses lifestyles of sin that are accepted by the sinner. You can not be saved and continue in those sins. As expanded in Hebrews 10:26-29 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
The debate is over the correct wording from an invisible, imaginary man
invented by a tribe of desert Hebrews, thousands of years ago.
Trivial pursuit.
@@JamesRichardWiley LOL. Let me tell you a fairy tale about how rocks can turn into life with the magical fairy dust of time.
@Zap ? *smile* the first one was better. Do it again, use the appeal to authority, that one is always funny. Tell me about how rocks become life. LOL
'Same-sex attraction' is a manifestation of brokenness and sinfulness.
Humans have the free will to act on that attraction (which is sinful) or to suppress it (which is not sinful).
Hey, Jesus Christ saves and He loves you😁✝️
Amen 🙏🏽 Great question!!
There is nothing wrong with same sex relationships
There's noting wrong with same sex relationships ASSUMING that the relationship doesn't turn sexual.
@just repelsteeltje In the bedroom? No. But if what happens in the bedroom doesn't stay in the bedroom, then yes. I have every right to tell them what I think about their behavior and how wrong it is because their behavior has moved far beyond the bedroom....just like they have the right to tell me how they think I'm wrong.
@@spiritualthinker2 " In the bedroom? No. But if what happens in the bedroom doesn't stay in the bedroom, then yes. I have every right to tell them what I think about their behavior and how wrong it is because their behavior has moved far beyond the bedroom....just like they have the right to tell me how they think I'm wrong." OK, so when has any gay person condemned you for any behaviour you display in public?
@@urasam2 *OK, so when has any gay person condemned you for any behaviour you display in public?*
To be honest, never. Why is that? Because I usually keep to myself and try not to draw unwanted attention to myself. If I talk to someone about God and the bible, I usually pull that person aside and have a private conversation with them because I don't want to risk other people jumping in and trying to distract from the conversation. I want to have a sincere one on one talk with that person and I want to try to understand where they're coming from. Now, I have seen street preachers harassed by "tolerant" homosexuals and pro-homosexual allies for speaking against homosexual behavior and to be honest I would rather not be in such a position because for starters, I don't like being surrounded by people I personally don't know and that appear to want to do me physical harm because they may not agree with what I'm saying.
Not really especially if it's in the Will of God (Yep I said it)
Interesting question
*_John 3.16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”_*
_Jesus Christ loves you. Repent and be saved. GOD bless you, and peace be upon you and your family in the name of Jesus Christ.._
What's your point?
Did you apply your critical thinking to this claim before you posted it here?
This is an admission by your personal God Yahweh/Yeshua that he was willing to sacrifice himself to save you from everlasting condemnation.
This is the thinking of a babbling member of the Hebrew Cult of Yahweh.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with reality.
Boring verses.
@@urasam2 The point is turn to God completely. These verse pierced your heart and you are deeply offended by God. This shows that He’s right and your wrong. And if this is not true, THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE?? 🤷♂️
@@sukarnos3xy to a blind person.
Why did God deliberately create these problems when he intelligently designed Adam on October 23rd at 9 a.m., 45th meridian time, in 4004 BC?
God did not create these problems. It was the devil that deceived Man, causing him to sin against God. It was by Man's own free will that he chose to go against God's wishes, thereby bringing upon himself all these problems. These problems can not be blamed on God, but on the devil and also on us, who are sinful by nature, as a result of Adam and Eve's sin (the original sin).
Problems in the word are a result of God gift to us that is the freedom of choice
What does it mean to live a "holy life", Dr. Frank?
a life where you consciously desire and actually follow God's commandments.
@Rova Vesikula, perfect answer. @Red Fx, a holy life is a life of complete wilful obedience to God.
An ordinary life based on reason, not faith is good enough.
Holy means" dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose; sacred."
God is a man made supernatural being considered divine or sacred.
@@JamesRichardWiley Imagine how arrogant you have to be. To claim that God is a man made Supernatural being. That's not a fact
That's just your opinion. That's purely emotive.
@@RJWM1999 How is it arrogant to claim God is man made? It seems more arrogant to claim that which can't be proven exists?
That’s right brother, that’s the truth. Without Jesus Christ, there literally is no hope, period. Thank you Jesus, you are lord .☝🏼🙏🏼
As an atheist, I disagree.
Jesus was an apocalyptic Jewish preacher who was executed long long ago, for blasphemy .
The Jesus story was gradually compiled by his followers
forty years after his death
including the famous miracles which attracted more followers.
James Richard Wiley ok, so explain the spiritual visits of God to me and many others, explain this, I know that you can’t. Please plan for after this life with Jesus, he is very real, peace be with you and your family.
@@noelcurtis5439 Alright, would you care to explain these "spiritual visits" with honesty?
@@catoverlord3997 sure, on one occasion, I sat on my bed 🛏, not doing anything, i was very relaxed and out of no where, I heard the audible voice of God. He spoke and I listened. It was the most amazing 😉 experience I ever been through. There was another time when I was spending time with the lord reading 📖 the word of God, praying 🙏🏼 and worshiping him and when I was done, I said, “ Lord, your word is precious to me and I heard the Holy Spirit say this time in a small still voice or gentle whisper but very clear, “ and so are you “. I’ve had a few interactions with the Spirit of God . I could go on but the point is that, I don’t personally waste my time talking nonsense, what I tell is the truth, my personal experience. There is no doubt in my mind, “ Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. John 14:6 I have explained myself and told you the truth, now you go draw close to God and the word says he will draw close to you but do so in faith. Hebrews 11:6 He loves you and has a plan for you, now search for him with all your heart ❤️ and find out . God bless you and your family, peace be with you .
Monstrous nonsense.
Grow up people.Belief in a sky daddy is infantile.
evolution is a lie.
you don't know about
hydrolytic sorting shows that
the layers in the Earth are proven to have been put there by water.
dinosaur death pose
mitochondrial eve
the vostok ice core samples
second law of Thermodynamics entropy.
giant ice wolf head and dogs prove microevolution is damage control.
macro evolution has never been seen
anything with the chance of happening of one to the 50th power is considered scientifically absurd...
meanwhile our blood coalesces at odds of 1 to the 270 millionth power.
aliens are demons
Nephilim bones
human DNA is level six complexity.
only level two can be achieved by accidental chemistry.
consciousness itself. being separate from the body.
the Fibonacci sequence.
fractals.
incredibly complex ecosystems that are interdependent.
10 human organs that rely on each other to function defy your ideas of Macro evolution.
human and dinosaur footprints together. human and dinosaur living together carvings and statues.
chlorophyll on T-Rexes tooth shows that most dinosaurs like iguanodon were vegetarian.
live red blood cells found in the Horn of a dinosaur meaning that it was alive less than 2,000 years ago.
oceanic trench and Continental Beach heads prove the movement of pangea to modern configuration because of the flood.
272 civilizations out of account of the flood that were not influenced by the Bible (haven't heard of it)
sea life and sediments on all mountain tops of the world which would require a minimum of 100 feet of water above.
ice Age was literally caused by the flood.
if you believe in a big bang then you have to wonder where did the heavy elements and stars come from in the first place and why did they explode and how come no explosions ever in the history of mankind have ever created something that they only destroy.
creation of fossils are extremely rare and form best underwater ergo to the flood.
going Evolution natural selection implies intelligence.
entropy states that we're going to a state of disorder which means that we were once put together neatly.
that is entirely opposite of the belief of evolution. the laws of nature prove evolution is a lie.
many of your prominent atheists have begun to admit that it seems we may have been put here by aliens because that the only intelligent source they can admit to.
mutations are obviously bad.
take a complex computer program for example like our DNA and just keep removing and scrambling the binary and see how many programs you have that still work.
@@VengefulPolititron You need to look a little deeper into that here's an article. hydrologic sorting debunked.
@@mmark292tbib2
you didn't link the article.
@@mmark292tbib2
you need to look into everything I've said as well.
Educate me please. How did this universe begin? Correct me if I’m wrong but do you believe that nothing created everything?
This is teaching 1 Corinthians 13 agape'. Amen brothers. 💗
What? Everyone is welcome? Any person claiming to be a Christian and is practicing homosexuality should be disciplined by the Church. They need to repent before coming back to the church.
Also, someone who is practicing homosexuality and is struggling with are are two different people. One has given in to their sin and the other is actively fighting against it. Frank was saying that anyone who has the attraction is welcome but if someone is practicing sin and calls it the opposite, THEY are to be expelled
@@timothyjahaziel2063 Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
The road to salvation is a narrow path and few will find it. Many in this world will choose the wide road to destruction. So yes, the sad truth is that many in that room will not inherit the kingdom of God.
oh Karen
Homosexuality is not a lifestyle, not about sex, not given by any satan. Homosexuality is a natural healthy born orientation with an evolutionary meaning. This man-made religion with their false man-made morals will disappear one day with those who believe in it.
Homosexuals then will still go on existing.
I wish to every homosexual, that he/she finds a loving partner , marries and raises kinds in responsibility.
As a Deist I send you a lot human love :)
Sin is sin. God will punish unrepentant lost people. Either His son took the punishment on the cross or you will. If your an adulterer, or a liar, or with the same sex, or a thief and the list goes on, and think it's ok and have no struggles with any of those sins and live your life in sin you will go to the lake of fire. I would suggest seeking Him and repenting or don't He gives us a choice. The thing I don't get is why alot of churches today want to twist Gods scriptures to justify same sex relationships and have a gay revisionist theology. What's next murder is ok, or stealing if you really need it? I actually had a pastor tell me I was a vile homophobe because I believe God says it's wrong. This is the state of the church today. Very sad. People definitely still hate truth today just like when Jesus was walking this earth. That's why they murdered Him. Nothing's changed except the date and the way we dress.
Does God punish lost people for not knowing him or does he seek them out? You already have flaws in your argument that contradicts scripture. Brush up on your theology and word choice.
@@matteo7241 I believe God offers salvation and we have the free will to reject it. He doesn't force anyone to except salvation. There will be no excuses. Roman's 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. nasb.
@@matteo7241 what flaws in my argument that contradicts Gods word?
If there truly is a punishment to be deserved then it should go to them not another. Accepting a scapegoat and not accountability doesn't sound righteous. So it i should be able to be so righteous then I shall accept the due punishment. If that punishment is too harsh to consider that position reasonable then the righteousness of the judge might be in question
then why don't many homophobics repent
The coming of Jesus Christ is close my brothers and sisters!! Please repent of your sins and ask God for salvation for the time is short 💕😞 we are not perfect which is why we need to seek the lord more than ever!❤️❤️🙏🏼
Dr. Turek ✅
These comments are scary and expose just how prejudiced this country really is, especially Christian's. Judge not lest you be judged!!!
Hate the sin; love the sinner. It's not that hard.
Hey - Christians! Speaking here as an atheist, may I ask a question? What business is it of anybody what sexuality somebody is?
What makes it our business (besides the fact that homosexuals have made it our business) is that we wish not to see anyone perish in hell because of their sins whatever the sin maybe. According to the bible, Christians are commanded to go into the world, preach the gospel, make disciples, and preach the ugly truth to a dying world filled with lies.
spiritualthinker2 Two thoughts then: in what way have Gay people made it your business? And why on Earth would God need you to do his PR work for him? I thought he was supposed to be omnipotent and omnipresent, so should be a piece of cake for him to talk directly to the gay community if he’s that bothered
@@urasam2
1) Homosexuals have made it everyone else's businesses by taking over many important faucets of society (education, entertainment, politics, etc.) in order to normalize their life style.
2) God doesn't need me nor anyone else to do His PR work. Also, its not that He needs us to do anything but He has commanded those that believe Him to spread the word...which we should if it means bringing people to the knowledge and saving grace of Christ Jesus.
I don't know where you've been but God is talking to the homosexual community via the human conscience and by His disciples who are spreading the good news.
@@spiritualthinker2 Homosexuality isn't a lifestyle.
@Nick Gagnon I'm convinced that homosexuals (generally speaking) don't want acceptance or tolerance. They want unquestioning submission and obedience. Regardless of what they do, it is getting dangerously to the point that they're not allowed to be criticized publicly. Is that what they mean by acceptance?
Hits the nail on the head. The goal is not to change one who is a gay Christian into being straight, but to abstain from acting upon their sexual desires. This is NO different than the expectation God has for Heterosexuals to remain chaste before marriage and faithful afterwards. Somce may say then, but what about gays not permitted by God to marry as same sex couples? That is a sacrifice to Christ that is not exclusive to gay christian, but straight christian as well who are unable or cannot find a suitable Christian partner to marry, but are obliged to remain single. It is incumbent on both straight and gay Christians to abide the law of chastity i f they truly wish to follow Christ, who himself perfect, did suffer temptations so as to have empathy and compassion for us sinners who are not perfect.
Does your God allow masturbation?
I've been practicing masturbation ever since I was ten years old. Now I'm 72 and never had sex or married.
What is your personal opinion on this?
“Lifestyle”
homophobia is the real lifestyle of sin
As a dad to a daughter dealing with this, I have noticed that just about everything that God did to free me from drug addiction applies to same sex attraction. Furthermore, if God can keep a man faithful to his spouse and free from the temptations that come with that, then God can keep a man faithful to Christ the same way where same sex attraction is concerned.
@just repelsteeltje They have a lot of the same qualities. I think the similarities are greater than the differences.
@matt white They both involve satisfying desires of the flesh that are condemned by scripture.
but homophobia is an addiction, LGBT is just how some are born
@@pastorbri There is more scientific evidence for genetically inherited alcoholism than there is for people being "born gay".
However, let us assume your assumption is true, and people are born gay. Being born a certain way does not excuse our sinful behavior. Again, there is more scientific evidence for people to be born alcoholics, but that does not excuse a person for always being drunk, which is also a sin.
Also, there is more scientific research that has proven that certain psychopaths are also born that way. Does that make it okay when they react on their desire to hurt or kill people? If they are born that way, lacking empathy and compassion, then it should be okay to hurt people.
This is not a good argument Biblically because the Bible tells us that we are inherently sinful and imperfect creatures. It also tells us that we are to turn away from our sinful, baser natures to be more like Christ.
It is also not a good secular argument because there is a lack of scientific evidence to support your theory that people are born inherently gay/lesbian/bisexual.
The most important take away: even if you are born with sinful inclinations, that does that give a person an excuse to sin or an excuse that makes sinning acceptable/permissible.
@@av2484 actually theres none.....the ONLY way one can be born alcholic is if the mother abused booze or any other drug to get her unborn baby into it, but we are all naturally born with a sexual orientation, its been proven, sorry.
Heterosexuals are born straight so can we assume Being born a certain way does not excuse our sinful behavior there also? So all orientations are evil in ur logic right? Well This is not a good argument Biblically because the Bible tells us that we are inherently sinful and imperfect creatures. It also tells us that we are to turn away from our sinful, baser natures to be more like Christ. It is also not a good secular argument because there is a lack of scientific evidence to support your theory that people are born inherently bigoted or homophobic, its a choice you made.....and thats a sin.
There’s a lot of gay dudes in prison
And even more Christians
lots more heterosexuals in prison too
@@pastorbri right I can count 3 serial killers of the top of my head that were straight.
ted Bundy
Jeffrey Dahmer
the night stalker
and idk but probably jack the ripper
@@caleosdaughter4425 yeah, well spotted. Seems heterosexuality is not so good.
@@pastorbri yes exactly why does your sexuality dictate how you are as a person.
i thought I was bisexual because I thought I had a thing for this one guy and it turned out I only thought of him as a friend. i then realized I have never in my life liked or was sexually attracted to a man therefore I am lesbian. and as a part of the lgbtq+ community I have never ever thought of breaking a rule much less a law
In a nutshell, God does not change, period.. otherwise if he does he is a liar an is not a benevolent God... That said...If your church is preaching Inclusion without repentance, that is an Apostate church and it is coming and is already in the so called "Church" Satan is not after the church dear hearts, No rather Satan is in the bride and at it's highest level as to twist the gospel just enough to deceive most, hold on to what you have and don't sell it at any price.....Satan is in the church and is after what she the bride is giving birth to that is the very elect of God....
How about just accepting reality instead of this hokey pie-in-the-sky made up silliness.
@Steve Bingham not really. The only proper answer would be "I don't know". Science makes it's best conclusions based on observable evidence, and in doing so will sometimes prove it's previous conclusions wrong as it seeks facts and reality.
Religion just believes stuff, and in doing so never has to admit it's wrong, no matter how wrong it can be.
How do you know what reality is? Do you believe things just because mere humans purport them to be fact? At least what we believe gives us an ultimate basis for why we follow morality.
@@dog_curry how do you know what reality is? Do you believe in god just because mere humans purport it to exist? Humans ultimately created the God myth to give the impressionable yet less intelligent among us a sense of moral compass, for the social development. The non thinking believer types still need this.
@@robertlewis9132 I have faith that the words of the Bible aren't from humans but from God, so it's not the same thing. How do you know humans created God as a myth? And are you saying intelligent people don't need a moral compass, and those who do are not intelligent? How insulting. Why do non believers need a moral compass anyway? After all, what they think is moral is just their opinion.
@Steve Bingham you can't deal with rational people pointing out Frank's appalling stance on homosexuality. So you tapdance your way out of it by blathering about the origin of the universe.
Just pathetic.
I Cor 6:9-11 plaques me for years as a Christian.
Frank Turek talks so much utter drivel that it is impossible to address the sheer volume of nonsense that he spouts here.
But one point that needs to be made is that he should keep his smug, puritanical, bigoted, ignorant, sanctimonious nose out of other peoples business.
if we have to accept a relationship between same sex couples then they are going to promote child adult relationships.
You win the prize for the most ignorant, bigoted comment of the day
lol at bigot, how so? I dident make this up, it's a progressive movement, google NAMBLA, or check out a ted talk, last but not least netflix special cuties.
@@jeffphelps1355 First, NAMBLA is not a new organisation, and, for reasons I don't agree with, is allowed to continue, but what it advocates is illegal. Second, Cuties has unleashed a huge backlash, and demonstrates that the overwhelming majority of people are not in favour of sexualising children. I called you a bigot because you strongly implied intolerance towards same sex couples, and that viewpoint is just not acceptable in the 21st century.
@@urasam2 just because I don't agree with a certain lifestyle doesn't make me a bigot, that's comical. here you are on a Christian UA-cam channel criticising our lifestyle, what does that make you? a bigot?
Jeff Phelps Not really, because Christians have a choice to be a Christian or not. Gay people do not have a choice. So, for condemning someone for something they do not choose is as bigoted as condemning people for being left- handed, ginger haired, female, black, disabled etc.
Jesus was a flaming homosexual he loves his fellow little boys, Just like the priests
Catholicism isn't Christianity it's Roman Paganism.
I agree but the difference is like what he said before the covetous the thief is not saying them being covetous or stealing or any of the other works is not a sin and we need to except them. The government has not validated the thief or murderer and said these acts are not wrong and covetous people have not created their own Bibles and started their own churches.....that’s the difference but yes all have come short and all are called to repentance
That's it, "claiming to be Christians". And it's all about Authentic Christianity vs. counterfeit christianity.
I hate when that verse gets twisted. WHen you read the entire verse, NOBODY comes out of the wash looking good, even if homosexuals were taken out of the verse.
Since he doesn't have an answer, he goes around and around and around
He gave a clear answer. Guess you don't like it
Amen brother!! Preach on 🔥👊
"Nobody gets into heaven without Jesus." That would mean that the vast majority of people today, and perhaps since ever will not go to heaven because they are not Christians or have never heard of Christianity. How do you explain that?
Wow got me at the end.
I guess you could say it is like asking someone to sober up before letting them into an A.A. meeting, which would be tragic of course. I've been in those rooms when new people arrive and it can be uncomfortable or down right sickening but so necessary for the drunken alcoholic. Today though, I am aware of salvation and know there will be many sober alcoholics in hell. My point was only a comparison of sins.
The thing is here, is the willingness to not follow your sin whatever it may be.... The Lord has relieved me of so many of the holds that sin had upon me, not all of them but many. I have been slowly transformed over the past 14 years because of Christ and sometimes in spite of my unwillingness. This transformation in me is still on going but has moved from the complete removal of many sins to a slower refining of others. True Christians are all works in progress and completion will not happen until Christ's meeting with us in the clouds.
One of my shortcomings is the acceptance of the homosexual which has only come a short way in the past 14 years because of my own resistance. Please pray for me also not to be so self righteous toward homosexuals. Please pray for me to hate the sin and not the sinner.
The acceptance of all things is the root cause for most evils.
Not accepting the diversity of mankind is called discrimination or racism. The root for all baseless hatred
My coworker is opposite sex i did let him know the Christ die for his sins and God loves him.
“Disobedience”
Great teacher
Such a good deep answer i really needed that right now had this week a talk about it
heres another, homophobia is a sin
@@pastorbri Maybe you better describe your definition of Homophobia. To sit here as a so called Pastor and argue against the Bible is not a good thing.
@@chrish7336 I go off the on line definition.
homophobia
/ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪə,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪə/
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noun
dislike of or prejudice against gay people.
To sit here as a so called "christian" or "bible expert" and argue against the Bible is not a good thing.
@@pastorbri for you to sit there are call yourself a "pastor" while condemning Christians and being Christophobic is CERTAINTLY a sin. To call yourself a "pastor" yet argue against God is horrifying for your sake. And to call yourself a "pastor" and just make little comments without using scripture one single time to justify your point is clear you are not a pastor in the Ecclesia. You might be a "pastor" of some sort of other religion but it is not Christianity. You do not offer gentle correction (a requirement of pastors) nor do you come armed with the Word of God for correction, intruction or reproof. We know it is because you have no Biblical means to back up your position so this "pastor" just comes with condemnation and judgement against those he is supposed to be shepherding. Shame on you "pastor"
@@TinkerBell-bt6vu AND for you to sit there are call yourself a "christian" while condemning us real Christians and being Christophobic is CERTAINTLY a sin. To call yourself a "christian" yet argue against God is horrifying for your sake more so. And to call yourself a "christian" and just make sly little comments against LGBT without using scripture one single time to justify your point is clear you are not a christian in the Ecclesia. You might be a "religious person" of some sort of other religion but it is not Christianity. Shame on you for supporting satan.......